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And one of the one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters in history, legit you're, you're, you're, a legend like you know when you fought Toshiko Saka, that was. That was like one of the highest level mma fights that we had ever seen up to that day. You know, like you, you you came into the scene when you won the heavyweight title you elevated the entire sport, like you were the fucking man, wow. You know that no, no, I didn't I do know. I recently found out that I was actually the first heavyweight champion. I didn't know when you were actually yes, it was super fight, yeah world of all you're, not alone that you were. You were only about two hundred ten two hundred twenty pounds at your heaviest right left. I was at at the random and fight it was under two hundred and it was two and over at a little yet to drink water at the way in to make do with. Because otherwise, he said is be a title. Fight yeah, you had to be above the the light heavyweight limit was two or three at one point, two

hundred yards two or three in Japan Right, pride, yeah, so a called it middle weight though it's? What is that that is now three kilos I believe is two or three weird You are a small heavyweight man. You know at time that a an h you could get away with that nowadays. You know I would find a two, oh five, because very, but I'm I'm already walking around almost a two five, but right at that time you for it. I I like the word heavy weight, title much better right and the world you guys when you beat up the lives. You know to be a big guy you only have to survive. The four by four minutes right if they brought an onslaught and and then it was smooth sailing from there, you know you could to wear me down. Yes to to a lot of mixed martial arts fans? When you look at the the errors of fighting, you certainly brought in, and the error of the technical striker into the. Have you a combat sports because

you and Maurice Smith. We really like the first guys, of course, Maurice came after you, but the the the the were the first guys to you know to really be to this is a like have like real technicals, right, you know not just powerful guys who can knock anybody out, because there's always going to be a lot of those yeah but will like? Did you see the Bernard Hopkins for this weekend? No, it in a great fight. He won again. This guys is and what you can learn like anybody who's like interested in any sort of martial art watching that Bernard Hopkins angles. Was really with the technique. Has technique is perfect, is defense the way he rolls away from shots and even then I got hit. He knows how to cover He knows how to protect himself and the technical fighters are always going to have an edge. It's not easy to be texted all the instincts are just to go by and go crazy and attack attack, but there's gotta be a method to your madness and that's what separates the men from the great men from

the other fighters. Well, you you were talking about Mary Smith and I have to tell this really funny story real fast, because I fought it twice actually in pancreas and it was just one. Time. I I kicked him in the head and I easy as he made his switch kick, but I and I fell on the ground and he wanted to jump on top of me and I go what weight and he stopped and I get When I go. Thank you he's just said: stop yeah. You told me this before that was hilarious. It's unbelievably ridiculous! You them yeah, that's it use Jedi time time wait one second, you were, having some back pains as far back as the Cosco fight right yeah. It all started there. You know six weeks before the If I I had goal, are the wrestler and him in a triangle choke, and he thought it was smart. Me up and slam me down, and I slap me with my head against the wall in the corner. And that really We did some damage to me. You know I I Maybe it's time skinny Valea my chest Y know I couldn't breathe, concur

you know, and I brought that I hold that thing with me to random and fight as well. But you know what we had a poster is an eight day. It's just me like world's greatest more size. I don't know I I can't say no, no, I don't know how to do this thing you know. So I remember, and I was in the dressing room I had this big. A syringe rely, cocaine and I injecting myself in between my ribs and then the camera crew came in. They see me it was at the time I believe at universal soldiers, MR injecting they turned around therein. That is doing something illegal as it did, I'm just putting lead again and you because it was so painful. So this is when you're about to fight. You were pumping yourself for Life can yeah yeah and between the rips yeah you did. You ever get an mri for that find out what that one's, no, that just it just went away after years, took a long time put to sleep just I. I took a lot of sleep medication at the time because it would it would hurt during sleep yeah, you probably have a bulging disc or something or herniated,

a lot of this disco. You know I just had neck surgery two years ago and I know had it again early this year, and I refuse to be discs together. Now is final, like the yesterday. They before it started- and I feel slightly slowly my arm. She is a whole dent in here. Right. Is she in here? It's all gone. It's really weird. Those muscles, have to start re firing so to say, and so it's because the nerves were cut off their pinched by the herniation, yet lost complete power man It's a scary thing when you can't grab the milk out of the fridge anymore yeah and especially, if you, used to we're doing what are pull ups and so yeah that that that kind of scare me so, but now we're we're back on track, and hopefully it's comes back, so you got three discs: fused, so upper and lower to one. So it's three in a row, three zero, five, six and seven and

Is that an issue and putting pressure on the discs above it and below? Or do you have that there will? It will happen for especially the one below it? You know that's what they already warm before, but, like my my mobility is the same. I was amazed when I came out because they told me you know to do is just a big deal and but I I don't feel any different than I was before, so that's interesting yeah, so you probably were hindered in your mobility anyway, because your disk issue, that's probably the case, yeah, I'm going through a little bit of a bulging disk right now too, but I don't have any numbness or anything, but I'm be it treated, have been getting Rolfing done and I'm getting spinal decompression. They put you in a machine check out vaulting. Last week I had that done downward his old lady. That comes in and just kills me terrorized body. It's amazing is all right it is in you know what really fast. In a conversation I had with this woman yesterday, who's a chiropractor who told me you would be surprised, like people take a anti inflammatories, but how much of how much you can do with food?

by eating resveratrol, cutting out all your wheat, cutting out, pasta and gluten, and all that crap so like you would do it. Decrease your information. So much from all that stuff, like we don't understand, we have like we have very powerful immune systems for the most part and we're constantly fighting things off your body is using year, its bodies fighting off like inflammation all the time and its better, it's better at doing it when it's not being poisoned and when you body doesn't have weak it's like, we don't think about it, but pasta and bread all that delicious stuff, fucking terrible for you. It's like it's basically sugar. This is sloppy. Doing nonsense that your butt it's not really supposed to be eating and she was gone- on and on about good aside resveratrol and all these different antioxidants and eating a clean, much more like

diet. I'm trying I'm trying actually gluten free more now, more often not completely because managed as well, but you know I same breakfast Shitty, all the time I had this brown rice, Brown, Brown, rice, brown, hot with hot water and honey, been. For the last year's because has done food. Otherwise I don't need to like four hundred I I'm not hungry. Today I forced myself to drink this thing and then, when they expensive my stomach, I get and then I'll. Actually, I just ate a breed just before I came here, which is amazing for me, because normally only in every, so you really have been. Is this because of your in we know. No, I have my whole life had that you know I will wake up safer, with me ever works and never change it like a stray seems king routine. I was talking about it last time, but also the same food when I think my whole career I ate six slices of bread in the morning with like, marmalade jelly on it, because I believe that to build the orange feel. You know that it stopped liked it s from getting into your muscles and I'll

set this feeling with it, as sometimes I added peanut butter, and that was my breakfast and when I say that that means my entire career, I would do the same thing. Wake up very early two hours before my workout eat go back to sleep and then, when I would wake up, it will be digested and I would start training wow, but that's not like when Tricia. So they'll tell you no, no, no, the best thing I eat all right parsons. You know he was with me with my last fight when I was trying to get a Kevin Kevin give Jim. She was there all the time with all four because they said I it's a publicity stunt him in the corner. He was a pretty much every day, helping me training, shouting screaming and right. Bushes, where the last fight? When you see me, I looked the best I've ever looked like. Oh, my god. You know this is, but it was just because that was the time in my life. I had a a diet. I ate six seven times a day: small portions, fish, Jake and Rice all that all that stuff, but I never did I I ate pizza and steaks and beer. You know when I was confirmed that just worked for me. So again, why would I

they give you a discriminator. While you were in training camp yeah, I I you know actually in a hole and Japan, your furnace, that when you go from HOLLAND to Japan, there isn't a time difference which is daytime is night time for you right. So that means your all night and around seven hundred o'clock at night in the morning that it becomes eleven thousand one hundred o'clock at night. In your where you come from you, falling asleep. So I go after the to fight. I don't wanna, take sleeping pills because I'm gonna compete. I've always figured like an Casey slows me down it s. I always stayed away from that, but then I say you know: let's go on. We got great report here. I would drink a couple of beers and you know I will come home and fall asleep, and that became my you know how you say much my schedule became before the fight. I would just go out to get a couple of beers and then for how many beers three five

five years before a fight. You know you and it holds a so would you you can be used to that. You know in in the evening you're doing you're doing just in in in the in the, What is Germany they actually in the army they drink during the day only army at Delude Lieutenant sergeant. You know that explains Hitler, there were hammered, a sense, that's away, so where they just drink. A beer with lunch or something I guess, yeah yeah they do. You know I was training. A daily special forces did the same thing during the day they drink beer wow, that's crazy. I never would have thought that that would ever happen army. When there's some places there is commonly drink, wine would launch like in France last year. He's a layer of a bit of those with me. He would every morning he had to his sports with him and he would drink. A glass supports every morning, really yeah, like half a glass. You know he said, we'll fight all the. What do you mean you in system is good for that

just likes beer. The motherfucker likes to get a kick in the morning. Yeah, that's crazy! So that's the you we're afraid of sleeping pills, but you weren't afraid of the repercussions of alcohol. No, no because doesn't do would to anything. I I believe it's natural right. I I would get ten but I you have moments that when I would be the stair down in it I never did I you know only when they try to intimidate me, then I will put it on in them. You know, but otherwise, just look down, but I I I knew they would smell like the who is coming from your mother, like this guys crazy. You know I always thought actually, because at the end I didn't do it anymore because was fighting here in America and I didn't need it because I'm falling asleep, but I was thought you know to go to the before just before you go to the center of the cage flush with whiskey, whisky anymore. To go to him and then let them think that your hammered in just to get inside their heads.

There's some guys that show up in Jujitsu class drunk there's this one dude. He used to be drunk all the time, he'd roll with them. You know smell the whiskey. Well, there's a guy stone right doing so. Print, though in that stone doesn't fuck with reflexes, not to to melees, doesn't doesn't fuck with my reaction time. I actually feel like I'm probably better at you see when I'm high well guys feel like that. That's why so many of them roll roll stoned. You know creative ideas? You come up with more stuff, yeah, more creative, more relaxed, more completely focused on what you're doing they say that it's easier to get into it. You know wouldn't work for me, I'm a plant one of those guys. If I do it, I'm sitting in a meeting and there's. No, you ask me, two questions? Hey boss? What's your christian name? What christian names where you were born did question always little led by France will laugh at five. Second memory, amazing. While everybody is different,

so you when you were when you were competing, so no we'd, even though you live in HOLLAND, no no never was now, hopefully how I don't smoke way. It is now that you know it is because it's not start taboo. It's not do you know it's like drinking age? You don't have a whole. It I think you now have is maybe fourteen or something, but you never. You never had a drinking it, but kids, they're, not going to say hey. I want to drink because it's cool because it is not cool a twelve year. Twelve year old old kid can do it right. Yeah! It's no big deal. It's just a part of life. Yeah, twelve year old thirteen year old kid holy shit, that's Yes, I was in. I was in America and a half year and then I went back to hold on to that of his family and I was looking at and that the goal of the puppet cat, whatever theater- and this is due to too little curtains open up and there are people from HOLLAND everywhere from the country- and they can say whatever is on their mind and were two kids sitting there with the bottle line again, and they said-

yeah. We like to drink beer and they were doing- and I look at my wife- I go. Can you imagine this happens in America? What people going to say it's insane I mean there was six or eight years old and they were drinking a beer. Yeah? My first show no, I did not really against it. The whoa deuce and then the curtain closed again. It was well this thing right in the Strip clubs the girls are wearing, Don't they don't have to have. Four houses in HOLLAND is a totally different thing. They have a whole area where it's all horse for houses, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, the red Light District, a yeah that it pretty much every child in here and let only in Amsterdam yeah. Let me think about that for a second house: no, a whore neighborhood. They got a whole whore neighborhood, yet lies window shopping, Lois Incidences of HIV in all of Europe and lowest incidence of heroin addiction, which is really crazy, they'll get tested. To be legal, there there's a lot of testing there going you You may you walk there like in whether the Red Light District in Amsterdam them and any

She girls that you go know could be to go next door. It's amazing the amount of different through as well say, kills that they have, and it's not it's it's with. They wouldn't even think about it. The same way we think about it like the the way life is there from the get go, is so much different than the life is here that, in my opinion, like change our laws and to make it so that prostitution is legal, makes some marijuana just openly tolerated everywhere and kids can drink at twelve, like you even almost have to start from scratch. Yeah, you have to to me? It's like I. I couldn't do it if you go to the red Light district. Sometimes you see like a guys in a row waiting in front of one state window, she's hot okay, you measure the guy comes out these you like, and I believe that giving it all you got to go in. You know it's not for it's like don't get sushi on Sundays. Don't go to a korean spa at nine o'clock at night, it's abroad, yeah. It seems like HOLLAND.

Is all in all just more laid back more fun while their people right big kick boxing scene. Huge kickboxing scene, you know, I was just watching today on Facebook, somebody posted the Majuro Gym on my facebook from eighty three that was went under a billman, we're still alive. You know the guy who got killed and torture. There's a big story hold is a phenomenal Bullshit you so Rob came on Miller. Well go! I mean Fred, Frederick the aid guys from that Jim Rural World champions. I mean they, to Thailand, be two thousand was a scene. I want to assure the operator hull in HOLLAND, where for world title fights at the broadcast of the life to Thailand and the best I Bush's came down, and there was like l, globally and and and and coral came in all these guys and we won four out of four did not these guys out. It was a courageous thing

ever happened after that again, with the dutch style, incorporated a lot more striking with the hands right, a lot more boxing technique that sit tight, you get tying it together that yeah, I I think to be the biggest and and they have great tense every, he has great hands there and the the dutch style of striking is is really like to the lay person looks like you just kicking and punching, but the the the technical aspects of it like I've taken some classes with Rob came in before the way he breaks things down in the like patterns and how to follow. These pat he's got like these automatic pattern, yet that he does like when your foot is here he's doing this when his arms here is doing that he hits of the left hook, and that is the right leg kick and he's got, This. You know this really technical system that when you seem spark, it's really fascinating to watch it in action yeah, because you you, you just pointed himself to do it all the time yeah like when I, when I whole focus made for my guys, I have seen pats on myself in and out of the blue. I kick and I'll do a missed combination, whatever they don't expect and they got a whatever left get cards with across

blocking or any other gonna who cross local. You know and Emma Jane combination, right body left hook, low, kick are left to cry body you know, and but with a liver shot right to I mean I see ideas, but it's all the same them into the head so that in combat it all comes out. All automatically here attack comes Bomb Bob, there should character, and what are you? It's going to be a start with a body shot and then a hand or a Body or head had body body whatever. It is. That's what people really truly don't understand about about. It's what's required in order to pull something off under extreme stress we had SAM Sheridan he's. You wrote a book. Here's mine, if I have somebody lives recently, took me mail about it. Yeah yeah, very good book. Actually great he's got a great new one out called the disaster diaries yep and it's all about pressure in dealing with natural disasters, horrible situations where peoples character gets exposed at how how to stay calm and one of things he's talking about in the book is about like

what what how your body moves in in a competition and that you, the many things that are going to come out of the things that you ve really enjoy your brain to the point. Were there in your subconscious, so the left hook whizzes by your head, the counters right there. It's automatic. It has to be automatic, you're, not gonna, have time to think and you're gonna be flooded with adrenaline I had a guy who came to be. He actually won the amateur title last weekend, a girl he was thirty. Eight years old when he came to me, was for two and forty five parts of power lived there and he wanted to training. He had a torn bicep, yet is big bar sticking out of his army said what it? What do you want to trade? You said tomorrow, so I grabbed him by the bar. I pulled into the side. I say now you re the know, but maybe we can start with kicks. I sent for we to lose that weight. I mean this is going to stop you. You can even scratch your back and he started training, training, training and do every time would would ask me when you were on the ground, are you so much? You teaches the needs to that. I swear

this allows that yet what what is not, but it would be doing it. I said because just a but they don't do that, I should not wait till you're fighting and then in a clean. You can hit the ties to or elbow them and yeah is nobody doing it. I wait. Wait till you're fighting you'll find out when you're fighting and every week he came back with another question. I say just wait. Now I had You're combination, I have combination. I give you three combination, stand up, attack combinations, three up against and on the ground, some, so the only six you get, but when they come back at you almost a guarantee they're going to knock you out, you know they're just really solid combination, so one of them was big continent to discipline. You, keep your whole demeanor low and while you and then you hitting high, but everything stays low, so he thinks. Is there not a body shut notified star, it's a was amateur, so it was. It was all over the place and I think, oh, my god and his hands were abusing this, but the one thing came back. It was the right hook to the body right into it and that's how we talked about you,

there you see like even in all that chaos, because I always know my the people when, when I knocked out my first I books or if they would at the moment of knock out it would blind full of meat would have called in five other guys and then they would put my blood. Let's say: ok, who for who did you fight? I had no clue. I fought it's like the it's a person, but You can't just doesn't have a face. It's like you know, there's too much going on. It's like the first time, driving a car, but once can channel that he knows to listen to their corner and doing that stuff. Then it comes together, but that, in its all panic one combination came back. I about you. The dutch figure that out figure that Dutch figure out to add the hand, combinations and the boxing combinations and boxing combinations were ready using their hands, but much less so than they were using them I have no clue, I I I think just the size of their families yeah, I don't I. I think just a is automatically came with them. You know that they should, I truly believe, is really started. Madeira, Jim there. You know, then, which Rob came.

So all those guys there and then the shock rekey, all those names manhole, you know a core hammers and everybody started coming. I recently saw a video from Ramon Dekkers when he was nineteen years old. You know, and that was at a time when the first time when I saw him destroying somebody, my buddy told me he says, watch this man you're going to freak out and I thought he's going to get killed his kid He just drill. He give him a low kick of the guy flies horizontal in the air and he falls, and I was like what I mean you got to see, pictures of him when he was

yeah, remote, Akers, so, unfortunately just passed away. I think, two weeks ago I had a twenty seven yeah. He how to apparently had a heart attack was run this bike. He was amazing, amazing, guy to watch. You could watch the older fights and then the newer fights, as you know, we got older, got thicker more muscular but you're right in the early days, when it first our findings very, very thin. He was the he was the I I every interview for twenty five years. I've been saying it you know is the best striker. You know mma bloodline. She noted that t shirt company. That wants to do something with me and I would never met before also with kickboxing, and I said no, you know it from Holods. You know I've dated that that you got to go to a Ronald Reagan. Speech no that's not me. You know, Gma, because these guys are just really good. You know My whole style was pretty much. What Decker did that? I took that, and I took my tyson. You know because the most bar

for striking at I adopted my whole style like that square up set up square, you gotta be a small a, to all these people. You know I could do some apps dude. I mean that will stop you from body shots that I should never go down to his buddy. No, he did not. You know and he fought against the best people in the world, but he knocks people I would've Jap, because it's not a jap anymore. It's a straight punch at the moment when you square up No that's why I believe that, but it was my those decorous was included in that Decker Square. Because all show, but not in others much but you know about Isobel, says yeah old enough to sprawl. I was there was a big difference where this shifting, like watching Bernard Hopkins this weekend, me he's danced totally sideways any box on the label, and you can't do that in MMA loves to too take you down you and leg kicks too yeah, but also here, but also I cannot again you note Duane Ludwig when he knocked audience Bolivar we knew what we answer was going to do stand all the way in one line he's a softball. If he wants to throw a left of a right hook, he has to load up.

We thought if you write straight said right and you can watch the fight at the moment. He doesn't once and it- When do you see Dwayne? Looking at me like damn, I'm mister lumber right away. He does it again and Wayne NAILS and right away with a straight punch, Dwayne Bowe, still dance, has vicious technical right hand to you know the way he throws it. It's like it's so crisp and that's how we got the fastest knockout ever and you know you have see history don't join, is one of those guys that I have no clue. I was just talking to a buddy about it. It's like this guy is the nicest guy. Does everything right doesn't do? Drugs doesn't drink, doesn't g to knows the Colleen as guy out there for some reason he always has these crazy injuries, like you, miss that breaks his ankle or any tool allows his nee and always go. Why is that such good guy deserves so much better physical Suno life.

You know you only got so many miles could put on that car. That's true. After a while ball Joint star break in it's a crazy thing when you think about doing had so many fights you know before he even got to the of saying here so many king and cage fights- and you know he had kick boxing ballots. You know he won a world title in more talk right. Yes, he did yeah. So that's a lot wear and tear law to wear and tear on your body. You know I saw I saw joined first time when I did the bus route invitation. I shared a lot of fighters uh nowadays, who became a bigger fighters come from that tournament that we had an. It was so bad as moment. You had to fight four times in one night and it was almost no classes classes they do that recently, a long time. Yeah real glory does much of his words of which striking yeah, but he that's where I found drain for the first time he was there and we need an opponent for somebody.

And so I'll. Do it this little kid jumps up and he fights this guy. Thirty part heavier. No, my with a had cake and I go. Oh, I got to even know who this kid is and we became friends and instantly there. Yeah Dwayne has been around very, very nice guy and now he's head trainer in alpha male yeah. That's great. How cool is that I see there. I love watching guys like you move into commentating careers too. You host mma live now. What is it inside him listens inside? What? What that my may lives? Not even exist anymore. I don't know all these different fucking names. The important thing is on on access, tvs, you and Kenny Rice and guests, always and you've been doing a long time now six years man, it's getting crazy. Every week, it's a great gig, this, the gig that do me out of all the stress you know I was people have no clue what I had to do to stay here to survive with for my family

nine years. I missed every Christmas every new year because it was in Japan doing those big shows, you know based the holidays, birthdays. I missed the birth of my youngest daughter. I mean because I had to go otherwise there was no more money. If we give people think when you aren't you ve with Paypal, you, your ie is rich. It doesn't work like that. You know and I had to come back right away at loo seminar here, seven similar their cars. Traveling constantly and then went inside of a may came along. You know they gave me that basic income and- the first time in eleven. Now I actually have the power to say no and it actually financially, is also much better, because now they If you say notice, L L double it. Now we don't know what about if we travel at you see they did, but I didn't have power all the way now for me, if it really doesn't interest me I'd rather stay stay with the family know. I missed enough. I'm trying to catch up now right

I can do that. Yeah, that's a tough thing. You were the commentator, they had come to him pride and you are constantly going back and forth. How many fights did you go there at twelve. He of the because the app does she do it. One time also. I I over a year when I became since in here right ahead to count how many times a left, the country and I had a passport, and I go my God say number. So I went to my old passport and I started counting a hundred and fifty two times. I've been Japan, but that's HOLLAND and America is there. Crazy. I mean we're talking about it. That's a three year, solid straight because every time was at least which a week, because sometimes those four days but many times a week or or or I say, sometimes you for we reached a train their because at north trading partners, in other words, there is still thinking about finding backed into whenever kept you from fighting and pride. I was Reuben Warpath. I was gonna back. I was going to go back when you know I have many injuries

really, because all the injuries and ten tonight as I had, I think it's come from all the cortizone I took when I was a kid and that's starts really to flaring up and once that starts man, it's training till the fight is going to be a nightmare. You have about five minutes to train without it and then it will hit you you, you you. We have so much trust up training because everything will go down hill for there and then you're in pay for an hour and a half in tents? It's like really intense Beynon. You know it sucks the out of me in a happy anymore, and I didn't want to train and I couldn't eat because of the pain wow this. And the nicest you'd believes from cortisone child yeah, I took way many integrated, So as a kid because I was so sick, you know at but anyway then what I said

his recently training a little bit and just striking you know I stay to stay away from grappling, because if I have to power out of something would hit again and then when when Shamrock came came I said, listen I to be first fight. You know I come out of retirement for him. I want to. I want to find him, but he declined. She said now we already did it. We don't need to do it again so, but that was I was going to fight for the fight and then was almost but with the vendor lay at the dynamite show because I was it makes between K one and a amid end and Mitch. Marchioness upright, and I sat there looking for an for for venal I'll fight him I said. But what are we do I will listen. I haven't been ground fighting for three years. What about these people? I see this anyway were put under pride gloves and do K one rules. I think that's what people love to see right and that, so I didn't happen at last time and it was not because of, but that would have been great. I think because at that time I was almost I

guy a shape our I started taking a emilius type, his whole arms bruised up the next day. He goes, I think, you're ready. I felt it would have been amazing fight a holy shit, I still to this day, I always say why isn't there a company that comes out with that idea, that just said they did cage combat aids grown by younger in what was his name in John Wayne, part Australia to know as I heard about it, ass, cake, boxer, very, very good, take boxer, that's funny yeah and he is called it. Things called teach my tiresome play Let me let me find out how many minute rounds like five minute ride as well. If they do it like three minute rounds on their sandwich, cable and then yeah, I think that's how they're doing it uhm. Let me find this 'cause. I know there were he's he's a good dude too.

I want get see that as exciting yeah yeah yeah worker yeah, it is Interesting, isn't it that the other strikers, striking sports, never switched to the little gloves and ever tried the little gloves? It's amazing, it's amazing, because now we realize it, it doesn't really It's not really any difference. I guess with the impact I think only body shots, maybe because it's a smaller surface it penetrates through easier. I think, but I don't think had you know, even with a bare knuckle hitting ahead or with the glove I have to say. I do think that there, with the glove, has more impact yeah people, then within their knuckle, fair knuckle. Hurt yourself also punches some hard headed. Do forehead. That's what I what I to do it I a bouncer also. I was looking that look at my fellow check this check this out. If somebody was angry, I there's no point, I just leaned. What and the top of my head. You know- and

That's a fine way to pull the trigger somebody because they did you once once. So John Wayne, Pars companies called caged more a tie, and it is. It is essentially that it's more tie in a cage, mma gloves, MMA, gloves a believe gloves. Some gloves eleven looks like him on my gloves: yeah the there's, a difference in the way you can defend yourself to those boxes were a big difference. You know big difference to hover self up. You cover so much more area. Mma glove goes right behind it, yeah right through the middle yeah. I know interesting, yeah, yeah, special body shots. Also yeah right. You really can again with Russia on a blunt object, it's sharp that's right. Finally, we see guys, you know doing it I always talk about the I never get it. I always tell my students, I say fighting is really easy. You hit somebody really hard in that defense will go up and there's the body for you the other way around like form, and it is the body real hard until they.

To defend it and you go on top now when you rock somebody step back. What is she defend when you hit somebody out the on the chin was going to defend his hat. Why on earth? Would you start the hat now. This is your mom to go to the body but hit it hard. Cross to the body combinations like that hit as hard as we can. That defense has to come down and then you go back to the head and they plan plant themselves attacked the legs. I mean there's only there's a fuel fighters out there, the last one I saw using it was Rory Macdonald against Bj Penn who dropped him with the body shop, so you're what are not dropping, but he was hurt and right away. He back to the head, you know and that's you'll get him into conflict zone again to bring the hands of and then go for the body. Again, you see in that, get that that I say always she now he's thinking well he's on those new roaring Mcdonald's, one of those new breed of guys. That is getting great and everything he doesn't just have one specially like a wrestler who learned some

I'm proud now he's a he's, essentially mixed, martial artists from the jump and so was very technical in in and all aspects of his attack, but he you're right in the striking weird sort of starting to see. People who have a more nuanced understanding of different kicks know like how about front kicks all the sudden people land in front kicks to the face never happened. They did not all the fights we've seen and how bout a few guys got knocked out with a front kick to the face. Yeah I I did not come up, but I I keep him under his nose and Frank Shamrock at front kick in the know say: yes, you want to you smell that yeah. Pancreas is a weird thing if anybody has never seen it before they wore shoes and then Shin guards over the shoes and you couldn't punch, to the face yet a slap open hand, but This was the only one to figure out that, instead of slapping use, punch,

combinations, put just pulled a hand way back and in you know, you're essentially blast them, but the palm and in a way it even better because you can't break your hand, you know it's, as until this day I still don't get it that people don't use it because I it's very simple! If I'm standing here, this is the the the target a left hook right straight. If I connect with the connect with a left hook, I'm too close for my right straight. It doesn't have power, it needs the space to do get power to to to to get to pick up speed so to say, But if I do a palm strike- and I I what I do yeah you see it already, but I I pulled me back. I hit with his bony party yeah and I hit on the ear that that just here underneath the air, but now the straight punch way better lined up then left or right straight combination. I dont get. I get it across hook because with it should bring the head back. What the new, who will catch it but will have to grow

right. I say, use a palm strike and is still to this day. They do do. It is essentially a slap right hand, combination, that's it that's what is yeah, maybe they don't do it because of that they think yeah, but how cool is that you have to? And today you have to keep your hands closed. You can't you're not supposed to strike with your hands open. I mean, I guess you could probably get away with a karate chop or something like that. But the issue is going forward in poking eyes. We have a real problem with eye pokes wow. Your guy have been around a long time and you fought the bare knuckle days. Did there wizards many I pokes back then, as there are now? no no did but really messed me was the pro wrestling I started doing after I have to make it was over, and I says you know why I felt that I could do something again and you know he asked me to do pro My first fight, I break disk in my back and then said one. I ruptured my eyeball with a finger in my eye because you don't block the point. She let him hit you right and third, almost

eye eardrum! That's been broke for six years straight because because because you fly, you fix fix it because you cannot fly for six weeks when you do, it actually does funny story. My first pro wrestling match but Don Frye was in my corner. I was fighting this guy Shima or something I was at the Tokyo dome right. So sixty thousand people there you go through it all this. What you do in the beginning, there you ad a little bit in the middle, you do this and they add lips are more than the ads. You know you guys the apples orchestrated progress, yeah, bro, yeah, real processing, an it was going to he was going to at the start. He was going to pick me up, throw me in the corner and give me like three elbows in the face and then he would go to the to the audio slave woo and he would drop me with an elbow. I would take an aid gouty, no one and that there's right would start set, but I never lastly, my life before so, attacks me at the first album he gives me is both times, but this one is little harder and the third one hit me full and my

I agree, Flex kicks in and I go boom. Can I hit him in the face and he goes oh and he's out so I look at the only goes but they go. I don't know what the referees walking around the guy and he goes one and he walks around to do and is dragging the time you know when I finally obtain yeah he's done twitching and he waking up all four Modi guys. I did that Craig S. It hit me hard. So and the next time so did you? Did the guy get up and finished them? Yet he finished the match. So there was unconscious compulsions! Oh, he was with his eyes open. It was a woman when you wake him up. What do you tell him know nothing afterwards. Everybody get scared, so to me, the secular negotiate, please. But there are no real fight. Is it you don't hit me? I don't hate, you simple. You know he hit me hard no that's why right he took advantage of I guess I don't know. Maybe it was Purvis, maybe not, but I was

as many I po expect there. No ma'am, no, no, never mind why the money thing that's happening, so I I I I I never hit like this, but but had said I would all the way pulled back. I I never touch you know. I, think it's also a lot of guys who have no good control. Do you know if I mean to poke somebody, I've, I cannot even imagine that I will never happen with me. Off. That's what everybody there, while they didn't amazing, because you know you had you know you are fighting over in and you weren't poking guys. I that's what I mean. You know: I'd, never bakers, I'd, never to rig big issue. Now to the point where it's almost it looks like sometimes you know you're gonna really do. I would hate to speculate now, but it's very unfortunate aspect of having the ability to have open and I was wondering if you think there would could be a way we could cover over the tips. With, like maybe a soft leather, so was all like one smooth peace over the top, but it was soft enough, so you could still grapple because

People understand you don't really grapple like that anyway, no you use your whole hand and the only time you eat the some, even as involved as with a risk control and the most the time when I'm grabbing things. I'm grabbing things like this right here, I'm pulling with my thumb. I I give myself the added muscle down with my son was I have that, if you do that's only that that this situation, Francis, was somebody's amount and me and and and and never get this anyway people at the Mount to let himself just buck up, I always say so simple I would just forget. Mark up, you know, bring you feed close to your stop bucking up. He needs to look for balance. I guess keep hitting you you now. You look for balance, you catch one hand and then what I always say to my students. These two fingers are the strongest. So what I do I grab two into because it's a stronger grip around the wrist. Then, when I do this see she mine, she does the carpal tunnel. Sometimes I could I I I got that comes with the neck. Is this instead, this these three three finger wants to I on need sand on one organised yeah go around

on the and I pull it to one one. I lock up the foot and I throw them to the other side. All these simple reversal in later life for this they grabbing like this is true, than grabbing with yeah, because look this hand is here and the other hand look how open your grip becomes because of the forearm. But if you have around two figures here at the other two fingers there. You don't strong grip on one hand. We must lend you on the bottom. Any hits you with the utter head. You get something out of the way. I see what you say for folks. They don't know what the fuck your talk. What he is saying is that were at the the face of the risk is the thinnest, so the Morse, you have more strength in your hands when you're fingers are completely wrapped around something in the finger in the index finger in the summer touching together and the more for your fingers are spread out. The less power you have to grab hold a something. So in that, in the case of the human body, you better off grabbing the risks with three fingers and three phases very,

size, yeah yeah, that's that's very, very smart, and so that's what you would do and then fight for to try to get out of the mouth. You know yeah, because it's it's pretty easy once before. First of all, my never allowed to sit on your chest. That's a bad mom, because then you can up whatever you want. There's no leverage, you know, so he doesn't move First thing I always say: keep your elbows here always plus. If he's not, the high chest. I pushed my elbows here and there we go myself up for it. You don't have to push him down, but you can push yourself up is because the end result is the same right now, once on your belly. Doubteth grey thing that goes with it is that his feet are underneath your leg. So now, with your other food, you can catch one of those feet, you can see people listen to this right now going what the fuck is he talking about. He can you can get them. I can catch one of his feet here right and then, if I grab his right arm- and I pulled this to the site and at the moment I have it here- I lock it and I'll

that aside, I take this base. It was really good guys. Yeah ever show me really good guy. The best guy, ever pull report off on in training. That's the whole thing, I don't know what One set tells me like some already learned a new technique. Unlike him, we have another revolution. It's I think I just take your posting. Your post away, it's a very nice, a base, I think I think I had maybe colors the weather, the gig shouto at the time in becoming using them plus you know if you, if your mom, you put a number on my neck, your on your back, I guarantee you that I'll go real fast. I wait for those moments. I expect like this, that please attack my neck. Then when you first started, you weren't a submission guy at all. You were mostly just a stand up guy right when you first started competing in pancreas and then what was it like? Which fight? Was it that really major so last. One put me in a knee bar I trained for weeks to not get caught in the knee bar for Nakita we one way to stop it. He said have got is going to slip over your hip and you see

in the fight waiting for him to slip over my hip to catch the foot and he threw the leg over my head and I go mother. You know he They set me up with, but that moment I said okay, this won't ever happen again. Now I'm going to listen to people, but I'm also going to find out if it's really that right way and then I started just breaking down everything. I found one part part of LE overnight and we went nuts three times a day. We rolling rolling, rolling watching on fights, see a move, go ok. How do you get out while I can do this again? How can I stop that? I should add your breakdown down. Brittany essentially taught yourself a little bit of instruction from other people and a lot of it from tape and trial and error. Yeah. Just like that, you know I I my big dvds of combat right. I had a phone call a long time ago this before a new, be Japan personally and he said hey boss is: be J Vigour Beach by Japan, how don't know I'm getting ready for a run was Medici was fighting it

I say away you calling and I'm watching your instructions, and I say so he says the best instructions of ever seen in my life. I got you getting and he says yeah I gotta go I gotta go. Can I use that quote because that's a great but he was also a mess with what I do. A lot of hand control. My arm bars are different. My way of breaking your grip. If I your grip you'll never escape. I guarantee you that only if you break my grip already set myself up, my lancer looked my elbows right away here and at the moment they start pulling for my own election, the same line as you, and I have to make it really tiny rural, the folks listening to this this is all very baffling, but it's very exciting because there's a bunch of different branches of grappling in MMA, you know there's like the catch wrestling sort of branch. Where you know a lot of gene, the Bell taught guys and a lot like Josh Barnett as well, very catch wrestling.

Oriented and of course, is a brazilian jujitsu oriented, but there's also like the Japanese. Style which is sort of a combination of the both like Sakuraba, who had a lot of Karl Gotch influence who's like one of the early catch wrestling guys to go over to Japan and teach these guys all these. Techniques, but he also had the japanese, martial arts, and you know in the the Judo submissions thing as well, really fascinating. When you stop and think about, when you started, I mean the first UFC Fight was in ninety three: was your first pancreas fight? Ninety three yeah, so you are two months before a month before September. You were there in the beginning of the blocks. Yep, you know, must be really interesting to see all these new techniques and all these will have really a lot of an ancient techniques to become like mainstream and knew what what I love about and and this

something I figured out also like in the early days, because you, like, I always say, example, is the simple figure for everybody knows a figure for right. I said, but if can create a way you use in order to America, and I called gotta figure for reversing. So if luck, I'm into so many. They rise. Why? Here also. They always forgets to push the arm down now so Lee but yeah I mean you know it's all here at you, you can do it to push it out. Come on. Did you have to know this? Is your yeah went out for folks listening, there's a technique. It's like you know, The guys, like shown you, as muscle like Google, my boss, a boom, well that if you take that arm and just drop it down to the rib and then pull are backwards. There's a surprisingly small amount of room that you can move where you're in excruciating pain. But if you can, but up there, where you show like the muscle, you can move way back people roll ask years to come at this measurements, but you can get out of it.

But what I always say is everybody knows, is probably the first mission to be taught, but if you can, create different ways to go that submit to that submission. Show it's undetected. It's like a right straight to the face. You know it's gonna come, but if I find a way to bring to delivered undetected, and that counts the for a for submissions, and that's why I always found two or three or sometimes for four ways to go to one combination and I stop mixing those up. Also I go for one to four, then I go for two to four. You know then eventually get somebody in it. A guy was really good with that also is no Gera in the early days. You know he's got Angle bar plot idea, and he constantly pop up up up up up sure you know and and and that's what I like. You know it find different ways and at this, because what I see now, what age you see You guys get so creative, so He does a submission. I go up by rewind. They go how the hell did you said that and then you and that's something

I really enjoy watching. You know when I can see it coming that I got I okay, that is, that is really cool. Now, when would you miss about price? Do you miss I think about the rules, because there's like a lot of debate about like whether or not the pride rules are the best rules, a lot of people think that they favored the more skillful fighter and They were more chaotic because they have stop soccer kicks, but yet no elbows. You know that I always said elbows and now you know. Now. We see guys start knocking people out without, but normally, if fights stop by elbows. Ninety five percent is because of a cat is not because of a knockout, so and then I say that is not a real win. If you think about it on the street, if you get caught, you won't stop by there. You know you keep for fighting. Is that the cuts not gonna, do anything to you, knocking him out and that's why I say you know. Sometimes I like it even better needs to the face on the ground and they elbows out for I care. You know, and I think the ring makes it also a little bit. Technical because you can't walk up, you know

is a whole different strategy. Suddenly you can lock some people standing. You can lock him up in the corner. You can do that in a cage. You see it's a whole different strategy. Yeah, you can't you the to push your back against it to get away, you can't reverse people is easily this a lot the wall I mean that age is almost like a new weapon in there. So, like a tool, now she may. She now we see but Pat, as you know, coming up with a crazy stuff yeah. We should go for the straight boys that one I did, but that kick that was That was really crazy. Actually, that pushing off and then within the knee, I saw em training from Gilbert. I fell all the way back, Lucian Lucian Carbine,

He used to do that on the bottom rope in Thai boxing and declared she would stomp on the bottom rope and then boom beneath interface. Did you see a Anthony Pennison started, throwing knees that way? How cool would that? How did he slipped it around house in the in between that defense is crazy. He's got great time with the fuckery. Yes he's, because Donald Cowboy Cerrone's, a bad mother fucker too, and he stopped him with a body shot and you could see cowboy didn't want to acknowledge it. He blasted him once with a kick to the body, and all you saw was cowboys ab. Just ok, alright, thanks for the plug by the way, I never it's delivered, shot like boss. Rutin knows the power of the liver, shot and he's you know from Boces commentary you vote been so adamant about. You know attacking the liver folks, folks who on your work, when hit you with a left hook, there's an area where your liver is where, if you take a sizeable impact on that liver, your body he shuts down down and it's a weird thing to watch. It's a weird thing to feel you know: everybody's fed.

Everybody's ever trained is felt that my first devotion class I get drunk to deliver that's where my love comes from the liberation. I was on the ground, breathing and asking him what else says left it to the body Your liver is located? Oh man, and that's when I focusing because I knew right away. I was like all I thought I was as because I in karate, I was being people up in my trading it in an anti no, but when I went to tie boxing because we were not used to really pushing the hat, you know where they started. Taking my head, my hand flew up way too high, of course, and exposing over exposing my body and that's where the body shot. Guy. I have the exact same story. I started out in type window and realized. Was I right around the time I wanted to try to make the EU s national team? I won the Massachusetts State Championship like four years in a row and I've won the. U S, cop. I want some one, some good tournaments, but I got or the U S Open, but I got to the nationals in

one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight by the time. I was doing that, though it already started boxing realize I was full of shit like I really everybody that takes karate at least back in the day before the UFC came around everybody took Judah everybody that took whatever you took. You thought what you dad was the ship that was at. You didn't need anything else. I got super lucky there was a guy named Joe Lake is a great guy. Who is a boxing coach at this gym that I was working out at and I was teaching a taekwondo class there, and so he started teach me how to box. So I can teach him some kicks. Thousands these guys and kicks in, and we started doing some sparring with you bring in some boxers like its bar with, and I just got a fuck mean I was like oh Jesus Christ like trying to kick box with these guys. It was my hands were so terrible. My I did I was, so are aware of how easy it was to punch me in the face, and I went that same sort of a transition. Will you realize, like while

that's a learn like I've developed a style? That's based on no punch into the face. So it's an unrealistic style, but those guys that from that unrealistic style, because so many kicks, they have a Dixon already in kicking dexterity that very few other guys ever develop. There's a few guys that kick really figured could hard take on over arms. You know anyone Atticus YAP, yet Paris, you know, he's a really good person silver. The thing that I had, though, when they beat me up the first class. I went back I always tell my students- and I always say if I can do it- you can do it in because people they say yeah, but it comes to me sure maybe can. But I work really hard well don't forget that I stood four hours in front of the mirror with my hands four hours- and I was drop my hands and my wife at the time is issued. No, this will not happen again and the next day I went back and I just almost clean they cleaned up, but they almost they thought that I was pulling it

on them that I already knew how to box to tie box, and then I just came in. I said I spent four hours in front of the MRI Esterday, my husband's not going to drop anymore. That guy do with the living shot he's still at the best of me. He was really go. Well, that's the only way to get great is to be obsessive right. That's it! You got to be crazy, I you know, I I tell the story- and I I you probably heard it before. I would wake up my wife in the middle of the night, because it would dream of submission, and then I would put that submission I would say, hey it's your shoulder right, so I would write it down and then I would go

sleep in the next day. It would go. This happens at least six times. This shape, wake up and use her as a grappling dummy. That's it. I will wake her up and I said man I got another one. My whole house was falling to the post. It yeah I was nuts man. I Mario, are told me the level Mario Ferry told me once when I first learned Jujitsu. I practice your triangle. I have my girlfriend see in my guard and I got bad did it say bow, and he just would practice triangle over and over again and she's like stop, and I want to do it, my fuck, you can't do it. His girlfriend is a grappling dummy is slapping triangles on it, I'm she should be honored. That's that's the Mario that sells buried, but she's, not very many. More probably not maybe married her. I don't know. Maybe it's maybe a payback. You got to see and comment. In. You got to see some of the most historic fights in mma history. I mean those days in my opinion, and this is opinions.

Look. I work for the UFC, obviously I'm biased, I think the greatest fighters live today. She I think that J, the level of fighters is at the highest. The highest levels ever been in here. You have see whether it's interesting Silver George Saint Pierre Jon Jones, The highest levels ever existed, but as far as like the greatest events of you are there for Ninety thousand seat of ninety one and a half they can parachutes came in it. While the thing thing right, he landed with a parachute at the cottage double room was opening the show I mean it was the same. It was that wages they cry. A small show would be forty five thousand people. Those considered the normal show I did he hurried, well. I remember when it's done it. The wind was going really hot and I go to this is going to go wrong. Somebody is going to be like a flight. School ended up split it up as against whatever

there, but I mean they came in. They did it. It was phenomenal zero existing the japanese sense of of pageants one water, something no, no. No. That makes it worse. For me la I like it that the diet, coke for some reason seems to have worked. We have anything, I don't think we have a doctor. We have that injury now, maybe yeah I'll, try, coconut water with coconut water guns of what I like, that we have coconut water, cocoa, cafes, coconut water with espresso in it Licious once ran out. You know trying to get me one of them to Jamie please, but but the the sense of pageantry- the Japanese. I still on this tv right here. I have the best of prides and a lot of times before the the the podcast, a watch like a bunch of pride fights in a row and sometimes god. I would saying they were you know I I remember the time date a white was there were Chuck Liddell, you know, and it was sitting there in the first row waiting and it started, and I look Dana and he was like,

I mean- and I looked at arise right. I was the craziest ever ninety. Does this? Is their cocoa? Cafe stuff, we don't sponsors but they're cool people. They sent us will shit, it's called Coco CAFE and the other stuff that's over there, which is unbelievably delicious that seat. Whoa, coconut water last time I was here and you had that I buy a bit a pellet. Now too, you know what good is good with a with a cigar is a good confidence. Yeah yeah, it's delicious sweet juice juice, it's from Thailand warm. They said that their those coconut trees are small there when, like five feet tall their lot, like regular, crazy, coconut tree. But it's a thai coconut that you want. Amy and Brian's has cannot end coconut of such up there. They have the bubbles. In also add this one that you can get the two different or the Green one has a little chunks of coconut a well that's what I put in my

morning shake make a force with, with protein hemp, make a shake a shake, it will not even Cycle ACT, is good for everything not as well. It is good for uploading, it was yeah, it was crazy about. It will be a really enjoyable that hemp creek. Have you heard of this? They got. It is hemp concrete and it's it's actually flexible. Yeah for real grappling. It's called him. Crete and they have they have stadium, whether harder than its hot. This is it's crazy, their harder than regular, concrete while and lighter and as it moves us, we had a full buildings. Band break is L A's. Nice hemp is a crazy plan, it does, it doesn't even seem real and what what a lot of Don't don't know! Is that it's not it's when you're talking about, like you say, help people think my heart is not getting high. Does it has nothing to do with guinea It is just a few awaken yeah. What

as a as a product as a commodity. It's an amazing plant, just it. What can do? Is you get the stock like the the the base of it it's hard as a rock, but yet it's a little white like Spiro. It's alien! It's like an alien plant, there's no plan on the planet like him and it's illegal. These fuckheads, let us pass rooted and it's really illegal Japan right and media Yukon, Japan Robbery I had it was how we spending so much time in that that culture is Brian and I went last year, but those are both of our first time. We were like holy shit. This place is yeah, you brought a lot of the pills that thc pills: did you bring those low because the legal right you get but on it it what's the name again of those. Yeah, but I mean, if you go to Japan, you better bring that yeah.

So we want to get high. You make an effort, we yeah you get offered weed in Japan. Oh no, it's very easy to get there. You know it's a to it's all crazy things. Yeah those african dudes those Alexandria wandering the streets trying to offer you a sizes is that where we went to punk the punk yeah, that's not pulling bomb, that's the one! That's second is I want to like I said before. If it's buggy. That was it. It was it weird, though in over in that cultural kind of regular basis. It you know it is I I have a the, but do it with me. So swedish young and I know for four years been bullied or does it get until you know also stood up and not to bully out start getting wants to start fighting and he's coming down here also, and he for the first weekend and they want to stay for three months, a train and he also so you know it's hard to know your family, and especially, you know because he's used his family all the time around, and I said you know know exactly where you going through, because I had that tourism persia. What five weeks over there I hotel room and it was it

no! You go in the morning. Go train! You go back you each! You go train, you go back and then you you know, that's it, then your you, video games. I was very good at a fighter. You know like blended, big video games there, but that there is no to communicate, does know going out district? The only thing they have is is everybody, but for the rest, like you can walk in a bar somewhere. It's not plus you don't want to do that your training right. You know, so it's yeah, it's hard. It's hard to that, one to be their business. Very we'd, pay that the people are completely different, it's quiet to fitting. Is yeah, it's a way we are to me, though. I truly believe that I completely changed my fighting style. I was super aggressive fighter. That's why I put this big ours on my head. The beginning, but in HOLLAND, I will come out very taken You know on a loan. I will get hit You know it was like this disconnect and then I would Is there an up? That's why I get like thirteen first round knock. You know just black

that people over this would have hit him out. It ring almost just totally lost control. You would try to start out technical, but then you just get crazy. When you go. Oh, I get hit that I get so angry and then, when I went to Japan, I realized the These guys are known to take a hit. And I figured if I went find out tat. That was the funniest part no way glass. So my guy was two forty five I go and that's not a problem here. No, I said okay, good good good, so I'm bluffing now right, I said so. How many runs we got five? This is What does have great, how many minutes, thirty or yeah great great great likely, but in my mind I would you forget it? That's why I put the hours of my head. I go. I realized. I hereby unload myself the first to witness a get twenty aiming to go. You know I don't want to take that risk and the maiden like that better do you prefer like like when you see like the pride ten minute round opening round, is a lot of debate about as well, whether or not the ten minute opening round is better or the three far enough, while I get there

they determined at opening round makes for a better strategical fighter that, that's for sure, because you got people have no. How tired you can get in one minute or in two minutes. I have these one minute, drills that are doing the back. That pros come in holding my Anita, I mean, but I go buzz. You know, give you combination, everything is one hundred percent. I gotta this morning saying this before forget someone's asking on the underground to do you still do you still sell those boss written workout tape? Yes, still everybody, I usually get a finally using now and don't come through dot com. You sell it. Okay, yep, because there's a bunch of people are asking on mixed martial arts dot com should an mma work out. You'll have that work out is going to be your best friend I get when I train myself. It's always part of my work at for real. If you want you, do you didn't ever with the numbers? Yes, it's great it's great, because you can do it anywhere. You can do it in the in the hotel. I was in a hotel room, the better. The show with the sprawled in everything I was crying yes one, it's a

fun work out. Yet I love that, but determined is over road. If you overshot you shall should solve in the beginning of your own drive. You know you you gonna, have eight minutes left an aim. It is a very long time. You know too, to come back from that. So I truly believe you know you you play off the danger, as and as a fighter, that's why I always said to all my guys, the thirty eight year old guy you were, I said it was study, finances and stamina is going to be your number one goal. I think we put at number two I want stamina at one. You know because If you run out again, you gotta have a hundred bluebells, nothing to save you, you gonna get knocked out, and he We did that he can go and especially damages get short rounds, pick a blast, all day, long he's never and and that's how we you know, we had a hard first round and the guys are getting more to it than just so drugs. Yet he just destroyed the guy not too much, and that's with fighting you you,

play a little bit of a risk factor. That's why always train sort? I didn't want to have that risk factor in there. I never again in my life you were never a guy that had a short gas tank even in the coalsack of fight where you couldn't train grappling yeah and he took it, and he was you know, he's basically trying now grapple you in that funny. I won't stand with you. You still manage to have the conditioning to take him out on the feed. Yeah yeah, I look of sacrifice was also. I will show my back door escapes with the, and I said I shall watch to fight take me down she! Health, hello, hello, he's got me a thing. What twenty said it's about. You know it is backdoor escapes, but I will go over and over and over again you know I will, when I do enjoy what I do. I do. It is black and white with me. All the way and a more Your style is always very interesting to me. It's always fascinating how many different people have a different approach like Nick Ds Approach, where he throws like

he'll hit you with like laugh. If the percent punches here just come ass, you like to have you seen a video of him shadow boxing by the way or hitting the speed? Bang brand. Pull us up next year's hits the walking speed bag for twenty three minutes in a row wow insane and I'll tell you three made answer, but I did his five men around three now, by the way he had ridden is bike, In fact, in milder bolshevik road is by fifty miles the gym. Sparred five five minute rounds, hit the paths and then does this fucking the only donating with me as though I'll do one one one. I don't do about it dig it. I don't do that Will you take it easy to get a good? I go like a really fast like right now, but that is good that really no liked assets. It's amazing he's got incredible. Conditioning and he's you know, he's a couple of days away from the fight. That's this weekend, this Saturday night, George, St Pierre and Hamburg,

that's gonna be creates wow immature. This is twenty three. Minutes it as he does this boss and at the end of it all these elements are tired. I mean it's fuckin quit this guy's, not doing this at a slow pace like this media,

has, in my opinion, he's got the best cardio in all of them, but you see he's doing when I said you know just do it more than other people. Look at this man just saying: if he does this for twenty three minutes yeah, I guess why he doesn't get burned out when his shoulders 'cause I was doing it is the reason he does it so often and by the way, when he's not doing it he's fucking doing triathlons the guy swam from Alcatraz twice, you know crazy. You have to be to jump in the water up there. This is filled with sharks, yeah well like great white mating habitat, although that was a big myth, also right at that time they put planted in peoples hands, so they wouldn't start swimming back on earth, but it's just stream is there is the worst, the stream that takes people out there yeah most dangerous yeah that I'd yeah there's a lot of shit. It's dangerous for the waters really fucking cold up there, yeah yeah, but you know what, that's what I say go, but what he does this you can do. Do you just have to do it? You just have to do you know and that's what the people when they run against go run a friggin, his men.

That's what I used to know. It's. Are you one of the things thing you said you said you. Will do one round. I would start out one minute and I will go full clip next time. I don't want a minute and a half and then eventually you build up, that's it but got it. That was your style due at the end, know what I do. I have those one minute drills on a bag. I have also that will be focused. Mr type, that's what you just talked about, but I will take it. An easier. What I would do is one minute on the back one minute rest and I will, fifteen rounds as thirty minutes. Then I would go to night week, one minute of five seconds on the back fifty five seconds rest next week for one minute tense Fifty six, every time, five seconds more five seconds from your rest time at the edge one and a half minute go crazy on the back. Every punch is to do through hit through somebody's head like there's, not one and what are you down like thirty seconds rest and then thirty seconds rest, one one, a half minutes fault by you see guys in in the fight

And if I who suddenly unload themselves for two thousand and thirty seconds and aghast out right how many times do you see that how many times well that's the drill for you this you know you're going to be bizarre, strong and every time it's just five seconds more. You know every week choose files slowly and that you do in it, together with the other drills that I said going to define. The six minutes when I was getting out with the Diaz thing thing. Was that so it's so interesting to see the different styles like the way Nick approaches it where he just a lot, volume volume doesn't blast. You full blast with every shot, whereas you out a different style. You would even when you would you would kick their arms, you would try to crush them. Them may try to break down make him afraid of of it. I say if somebody puts his defense off up kick up his. Skinner. The defence put in his head that I better blogged is because I don't like it. You know now. You're inside is hurt. You see already graver big deal if it has a different muscled that I have. I have the fast. Fibres of other guys are they have that they burn a lot, but he does

the slow twitch fibres and I'm not that the meat is slow, but I mean it has a different. He is the the endures guys. A lot of them have that you know, but all explosive guys? They really have to watch out how they fight burst. Look, relax, burst, relax No! You have to fight like a trade like that, because otherwise you run. I guess that's why you see all those super explosive- they run out of gas and that's the reason because they don't train like that. One of the things Hail son had said, he said that if you try to knock a guy out, if you feel like you, have an opportunity, you try to knock the out. If you don't knock him out, you're, probably not going to win a decision like you have to realize you're you're gambling at all, but I survives it. You might be out of gas yeah, but she has the same thing, is also know knock out power. You know you just towards volume volume volume volume like an he he's got he's got knocked out power if you once again to drop on in know, but you she gave a chill, he is getting credible stamina issue those those those muscles, it's a rapping in a different here, yeah

it's just such a fascinating thing to see guys start to put it all together and also the see the style changing where these guys, like these Roy Mcdonald, guys that can do everything are starting to sort of move ahead, and it was explosive explosive also and does a lot of explosive drills. You ever see his workouts he's doing a lot of like jumping over those horses those horses, beautiful barriers, what those barriers call hurdles, a lot of hurdle, jumping a lot like power lifting a lot of like all of that strength, strengthen conditioning. Shall you see like pro football players pro hockey players? That's what you're. Seeing now you seem like real action and also guys that have multi faceted attacks for the longest time. Like I've always said, like gosh, you throw my leg kicks and people get pissed at me, they're like. Why do you keep saying you know he's doing while I was on my because it's not

we do. We even knew better yeah I mean and whom I did say that I, who am I, but I am also guy, seen a thousand fights, and I know what people, oh some people can do I know there are guys when you see a guy like Anderson Silva, who basically can do everything and when you see that guy, you know that those guys are possible. So when you see a guy who doesn't or you got like George St Pierre, who makes it so unpredictable. What he's going to do? Whatever he's going to punch you or try to take you down and that's part of why he so effective? It's cuz he's in he's moving. He moves really well, it covers distance really. Well, and you don't know, if he's shooting a double or he's throwing a punch out, show you don't know he makes you mix it makes you worry about it, it's like the low holy I used to. Do you live hello? How you would go to a fight it every time you will bring a new thing to a fight and that will be s, focus on yeah and and and G s b as the same thing, first ready for Co. Shaggy was too jap along job and was there spinning baggy ecosystem? There are three things and he will throw

the most and in between he have lips, and he he he does all the rest that he knows very winning back loses it from him. Working with me oh yeah, yeah, no video me teaching him how to do it, and I said we were at legends in Hollywood and it was most ridiculous conversation. I was talking to John Donahue and he was looking for someone to teach George Saint Pierre, how to throw a spinning back. He was asking me: do you know any good Thai Kwando, as you go, I'm I go. This is going to sound crazy, you're, not gonna. Believe me, I go, but I got a nasty Terry side to you. Like my number one technique, I assume- and so I I worked with George on it. We we went over like a a that he like he already had a decent one. He just was he had a couple of okay over over attending the resident, and a lot of it was that the low need kicking up as opposed to the higher kicking straight yeah yeah like that talk, windows style. You start in that. What you're saying is from that in the back yeah, I want an accurate. The backing is higher with us. I lifted up high,

lifting yeah lifting up hires, where you get the real power, could you involved the hip in a full rotation, did only exit the late Peter Smith. You know, remembers fees or to give you guys yeah. I, as the first time I saw him. He was doing in a queue Christine tournaments and I think you, what is it six fights it will in one day all the spinning back. Kick and that was that was that K k any jobs for the needy. He had a nasty one put. It was soul, we dig heart, it was. I pull for. The guy would cripple you know, is the craziest thing ever what a guy two men he said he's up there now with the Roman, for sure, because those guys they they knew each other as well Peterson yeah. What a great person also meant yeah. He live a lot of guys. Do I mean he defied a if a lot of times, guys too right here is the letter is hi guys that will mix up like? I always love this. Guy was a mix up karate techniques in taekwondo techniques, with the more tied like

Andy. You throw that we'll kick to the thought. You know, that's how we won the whole thing with bernao. Remember Bernardo got his legs mashed up already, with Peter errors and everybody, you know, and then he smart, it was a smart guy and hook. Who did that? Nobody ever did that and he did and he knocked him out like that to the legs yeah. It's amazing. It's amazing technique that we'll kick to the leg power to. You know like this couple era, guys today at a question of Facebook. If a pure cup we're a guy against pure Tie Box, was going and then I go, but our well I'll. Take the pure thai boxer should I say holler that no mean like in Tyler, but I say that tie boxer, of course, because they will prove close to this really really fast. It been in hand range and- and here doesn't have that No! They have only cakes and anti spinning, but once kick hits I mean they will. I mean they have shown much power when they propel their will lead the way they throw that gig but landing it. That's the thing

It is a lot of movement. A lot of movement is easy, detectable it's like LEO Lyoto Machida land that front kick on Randy, that jumping the Jones yeah. I know even even more easy, but the reason he could do it is because he's got good wrestling has got a black belt. Ju Jitsu is your good hands, get all the other things as well yeah, and so then you can add those karate techniques and then they become incredibly deadly yeah that band and a talking about a machine. That's may be good to mention, because the the one time I said yeah, he doesn't have a lot of weapons. I didn't mean it like that. What I mean. So he doesn't use a lot of weapons. He's got very south post stance at one like karate stance, which shut them down for the right like he has a gig, but it around roundhouse. Kick you don't need to be worried about because he can't use power in their eyes, I'm not saying people go to a you, so we can look at I'm not saying that we saw Kimball getting knocked out with the with this little tiny bunch. Everyone can get that down to do with him at the wrong time, but they were wrong spot for him. You. Are the right ones, but

He says his is a tax on most of the time. It's a left straight or it's a left, kick left straight right or left geek left straight right hook and when he moved. Backwards. I said the always moves to that site and if you bull rush him because of his stance. He has to start walking back because otherwise he can move backwards fast enough and that's what I meant but he always like, like that. With the front kick he brings, something you know he has those same attacks, but he know knows very well he's really really accuracy accuracy and then top of his counters are bizarre, but his attack is pretty much those attacks machine. It's a lot of heat, and you got a lot of heat in the Dan Henderson fight. You know like when I was interviewing him after the fight, the whole audience was booing. It wow, and I thought that was kind of fucked up, because I thought first of all, Dan Henderson is incredibly dangerous. Very, very, very dangerous guys powerful, puncher, ruthless, very aggressive and lot of experience knocking people. No damn centres and knocked

fade or knocked out, not not mean he knows how to put knuckles to chin. You know he's he's he's a spooky. Guy there's only one way to fight him and not get knocked out, don't get hit by him. And so much is number one goal don't get hit by that Fuckin nuclear weapon, discards packing. I thought there was an exciting fight, it was an ex ante for, but I can understand the people because he's a kind of final he waits for Henderson. Henderson, though I thought right from the get go. He throws one Punch, any stays stays and I go is gonna get get knocked out now, because it is very good at countering. I thought If I would fight if I was Henderson with his wrestling, I would just run on him run him up against, you know he's going to go that way because he doesn't fight ninety five percent. You watch the day before take to to go for ground and pound, but whatever you do don't throw single punches or to combinations because he's so good at the counter yeah. I think I see a lot of older wrestlers like Dan. I mean I know Dan recently had

in dream, as knee was really wrapped up for that fight. I assume that they're going in there banged up. Yep always assume center have a yeah, and I think it with Dan, especially because he's got so much knock out power. It probably avoid the grass playing. I mean Betty's got back issues yeah, I'm sure he does. These guys mean fucking, brutal way to make a living to now is forty teased. Amazement No, I really liked and then, as you know, the way when he fought Phaedr, you know that failure. Banging and then you see him making up his mind like. Oh, is it going to be like that? Ok, I can do that too, and then he freaking came and that's what I love about that many. So I saw in pride like after the first, a crawling on his knees back to the corner, and then he would

let's take a ride like nothing happened and just fight again he's a tough motherfucker. Very it took that first vandalay fine. He was not in good shape. Now you could tell he just wasn't in condition enough for that fight, and that was a scary fight for him. At one point in time, Was- was mounting omen pounding on beating everybody. Evidently, at that time eventually was a spooky spooky. Dude back then, and you know, and also this is in pride, where there's no drug testing out, so you could be on terone, you name it. I mean it was just Everybody knows that it's the dirty little thing that nobody wants Talk about those motherfuckers to the gills. It's you know you I always say just look at the bodies and then look at the body shop. They changed it most of the time there there you have the answer then, on top of that they didn't get tired, yeah vandalized, you're tired. It was a thing assisting Andalusia in his prime back then man. He was, much luck and scary. How cool was it to see back in Japan? That fight was amazing.

Beat beat Brian Classic Classic vandalized you I liked about that fight to he didn't cut down one. Eighty five I think that there is no good, for I think I've heard some. I tell everybody, you know this is the thing with fighters a bunch of five when they lose in a certain way class. They blame it on the other person cutting more weight than them. That's why they were so. I should do make up a technique. You know get more stamina and more technical work harder. You know, that's what I would I always find heavyweight. I could easily fight. To an approach. I wasn't too underpants, but I didn't want to do it because I saw all these guys all my friends getting sick. I mean there all shrunk God before it is finally stressed out. You know I say: keep the body happy man, you New York, beating it up everyday already two times a day. The only thing I can do for it given what it wants

give them all the nutrients, give give it to and don't pull that out. It is the worst thing you can do. People don't understand what we're talking about, if you're not into MA, but there's a real issue in mixed martial arts with weight cutting and what that means is well guys will weigh say if you had to get down to one hundred and seventy pounds, there's guys that way, like Anthony rumble Johnson well over two hundred pounds well over two hundred pounds, he's he's fighting heavy heavyweight now Anthony Rumble Johnson and I think, of March twenty Sir he's fighting ski yeah and heavyweight yeah. That's walking crazy. He used to cut down to one hundred and seventy and what that starve yourself and then dehydrate yourself and then dehydrate yourself. The day before the fight to the point, where guys would black out guys would lose guys did lose? Could move their legs, like literally the legs would stop working or they would have to fight in a cage fight. The next day we had to pull. Where does gather the sun? I know you pass out. He lost in one twenty seven pounds in a day and ended,

the guy, the he's, a young, kids, mission has said that it was the biggest difference in Venice. Ever saw ass, almost to weight classes up there, he was twenty seven or twenty eight, even pounds. Heavier the next day didn't Hardesty was dusky was like eighteen time yeah I was very young yeah. I think you're eighteen idea was when he started fighting and I have also- and I really the first time because he thought the guy from Hanzo, and I go oh, my god, because maybe you know you look at. It is due to be bewilders Richard Richard Richard Sean ghost. Don't you worry about it, you watch and that he started man went to town and he became a fan favoured right away, yeah. He he looked like you have live in a body found on, though yeah, and that idea he could've like lost the weight correctly using yes, sir the minds of their longer out to

meat, cutting man too, so don't do it, but then again some guys not to do it. Well, like look at Benson, Henderson yeah, you know he does a great. He doesn't look sucked in he's. Obviously, very very lean he's disciplined about it an because of that, when he fights he's got all the standing in the world, he can do five. Five minute rounds, no problem- and you know he's huge huge for one fish guys they they used a drink, two gallons of water a day. You know and that's a lot of powers right there, and if you only have to cut that out. Then it's easy, but I think once you start cutting before and you start eating way muscle, you know that you're doing it wrong and once with are going to be asked for in the body and I to okay. I truly believe like the brain fluids. God knows you take him away there. Also. You know. That is the reason the brain is

should upside down and that's why people get you know with the brain damage rain damage it and people don't know this, but in boxing I believe all of the deaths ever recorded were below the heavyweight division because the heavy weights I mean there might be some. You know some rare occurrences. Boxing is a tough game. Some people might have died as heavy wind, but most of the incidences where, in the lighter weight classes, when guys cut a lot of weight- and that was They used to have the way in the day of the fight, and that was also when they weren't using ivs. What a lot of folks don't know is when you see these guys, they dehydrate themselves, one of the things that's sick about it is they go and they get fucking ivy in there get get a needle in their arm and they replenish their that way, I would walk in a room and the whole room. Everybody would sit there and hanging everywhere every how about fucking blood. I know a guy who

into a room or one of fighters, is way back in the day and the guy had fuckin pints of blood out. They were putting back in see if that blood coming out of the fridge. That's like EPA, yet they put exactly area. He was also doing it too. To make wait. They were taking blood out of him too Dwayne extra blood in areas. Finally know you those like that he po shit. What they're doing right now also you know like, like your blood, gets really take your heart rate gets really low. You have to some of these guys have the up in the middle, and I jumped at Minnesota on a bike more or you know in in the home to have ended up in the bedroom, because otherwise the heart might stop beating and I go yeah. You do you, We want to get a title like that plus when you get your title and you cheated what if you use steroids or anything, and you get a tie? how can you? I was still these people? If I brush my teeth, I could look seven the mirror. I did everything without cheating, nothing ever body other than just good food and unreasoning your teeth

when you brush, you brush your teeth and you look at yourself in the mirror. You're gonna go like what was your cheater. I was like how competitive are you a teeth brush taking steroids to brush your teeth? Oh hey! You know what you're gonna laugh. You got my wife's laughter ass off every time and she, and my little daughter is the same as we like, like movement twice, bouchers all day long ding, Ding Ding, you know and dancing eleven o clock at night and when you hear brush your teeth, just click. She said this is a man. I mean a lot of power to have the same thing so we're offering them all it's a live. As you know, the devices so cool. When you see one room for my daughter, is it's a garbage field and they did? one is like everything is perfect, like the the pen is perfectly it's funny funny. Other personality is the best I have one my two year old, that I think might be a lesbian, tat. My life does when I say she's a she

It goes in ground. She goes and picks up like she goes and goes grabs like a Batman and Spiderman. She wants to play with the hulk she wants to play with boys. Cells, you exit, maybe she likes boys very much. It's always gonna be as she sees me work out. So she comes over. She tries punching and kicking the bag, she's very aggressive. Oh it's! The best but the other ones like girly and princess he says, built different to shows like thick ankles and shit You gotta see the problem with it. I have no. I love lesbians, man, you know my wife's like don't say that and I'm like how can you care so yeah? Not only that, but my wife has gay friends. She loves gay people. I don't know what to do. I think man, I think you did the people with the left brain capacity. They have problems with that. I truly believe you know that the gender who's fighting, and he asked me last week I said who were cares, choose the they need to fight trans genders. If a transgender,

find the need to find out. You think so, yes yeah, why do you think he's going to get a hold anyone? I don't know physical with the of an advantage for the for the mechanical advantage of the male body, loons show he its gear. Girls yeah. I didn't. I didn't know that. No, I thought for guys, don't no, no, no, no, the US and, of course, he's got their starts to argue about. Meanwhile, the international Limpet Committee, if you've been a trans gender, if you've cut off within two years, I think two you, after two years they allow to to compete against women. I didn't know that yeah, I think it's No, I I thought just fighting with guys the come. I don't know I don't care, but the the guys you do get killed without the testosterone that detail to get your balls cut off and then for Hence guy's going you get killed, there's a famous, more tie fighter. Who was a little boy.

Who yeah, I really well or lady boiled, and then she got the operation and then started get knocked out, because once you got the operation became a woman, she didn't have testosterone anymore. She started really getting fucked up, but It's still, you might not be able to beat men after you get you Dick cut off I beat women yep tendons, the ligaments the bone density. Because she's she's, not just like walking around she's, training for MMA yeah, so like she has a male body. That's he's training for MMA, and I looked at her and she's. So bulky man, I'm like man. I can't believe that this this chick is not taking. Something has has no balls anymore. How she keeping this much muscle mass mean she looks like a muscular man. It's gross yeah. I don't know that that that's not cool there for a fight out a guy's than that. I'm ok with. We need your hands. You feel about that whole cyborg thing. When Cyborg tested positive steps Well, you don't know that is folks. Cyborg is a

scariest women fighters and she's, a real woman, but she's very masculine, and very muscular and she's. She tested positive She says she didn't do it. I get it with. People say that, but I do I. Nobody was in shock right the event with the way she looks yeah. She looks indeed that she's doing I mean the way after the fight which you strong helper husband at the time the divorce. Now you know it was like wow. She is it normal struck a man ass though she were so advised. You know it was not a big surprise, which I always say you know, if you really, if they say they say that I got it. You know you you, you have to believed them, I think it's the. It will be very sad, but that's me could not lie like that. You're could live. There lie like that. If I have to lie about that, and in my whole, life is a lie. Now suddenly so well,

okay, here's the reality. The reality is, she came from a brazilian camp, known for aggressive fighters that may or may not have taken substances as well. So there's there's that issue right. That's that that's legit an inescapable and then too she tested positive yep and once it as positive. I mean it's essentially. Why would we believe you any other? You look like you're on steroids and you test for steroids wars. That is just as much of an issue to me as a transgender woman or the man who used to be a woman you mean when you said it went over to change it. You you heard now with the the over I I read that last week with injury, I heard to something on the day, of insider Romania said: oh, was an injury. I truly believe the Riis, because his testosterone was wont to undermine our stroll relish the rope one, seven thousand nine level one set of seventy nine. So I thought was the reason he was not going to fight in Nevada because Keith guys, usage prior usage,

That's the reason. That's why you can fight. I got explain everything. Talking about is testosterone, use, exemption, a tea for testosterone, replacement, therapy therapies, a very controversial issue now, with MMA fighters where there taking testosterone because the body doesn't produce as much anymore and there's two reasons for that is three. Actually one is The natural aging process are natural aging process. Once you get over thirty, you boisterous starts producing less less ass. I would say to you maybe well know, slowly slowly long, you, you don't need it now. You certainly don't need, but they do that. Through issue, though, is when guys have taken steroids in the past. They take him for prolong, is a time and then it kills their balls. And so then they test really low love. That's most likely. What's going on without

and then Keith guys said if they find out that you prior usage, because Alistair was caught before this listeners at home. You know using testosterone then days, it's okay, you cannot get it as soon as the fight was in Vegas. I thought I would. That is the reason, but then, on the day of the show they said, I don't know he just released. It was his hamstring iso. So when I this story, I said well, I thought it was that their system, on wash with people right of people write. It because I said something about Alistair like over a year and a half ago or something to go like. Oh, it's only be cause. You have golden glory. How do you know all that all that stuff I go? Do it? I grew over. You grow over it. I don't have a prob that I'm just saying what I read this week, no, and I thought was the reason he could compete in Nevada because it guys is there for folks who don't know what the fuck we're about testosterone is the it's all. It's

huge, controversial issue now Vittore Belfort is another example of it, because Keith Kizer is said that, because of the fact that he tested positive for steroids in two thousand and six, I believe it was. I think it was one pride that was yeah Vegas Right Audi and Stan Henderson when you test positive for steroids, they won't. If you have any history doing that they assume that the reason why your test is low is you ruined ruin, your body and, if that's the case, you're on your own, because you cheated. If you have a real medical condition for why your testosterone is low, then the grant exemptions and they've them for Forest Griffin and a bunch of and Dan Henderson and healthy forty, two years old or something I know now we start to talk and h here, but about a guy who's. Thirty, under thirty five and he should not have low test should not, unless he's medical, a yeah, you know I had. I had guys to look at me and said

so when I really need it and I go- I remember you when you were two hundred and twenty five, your back full of shit, you were thinking huge. Now you fighting and one and fifty five, and now you want an exemption because, oh no, I have something with my colon and whatever they say. I say, and you know what the reason is: don't but I'll. Be here writing to me now. You know, and nobody ever wants and met my blood work because it took right too much yeah, but it's so like b VI tore who's active in the. U I've seen is doing really well just knocked out Michael Bisping, and how he's going to fight again he's gonna fight in Brazil he's got to he can never fight in Vegas. Now, no that's what I said also no show I I I I gave the example of Alistair and I and I said because he said the same thing with you to bill for, of course they attack me with all your against because you love garlic, learn a everybody is the same. You know what I I said he had a glass jaw. I didn't say that either look if you wish to bill, it closes Fred. I would mention it. You know, with an up and running.

Need to know, but then you know otherwise. I said I said about gave less. I love gave the last, I think he's a great fighter, but you you know not, is not a super strong know in he's. Not reliable fighter. You can see what he can do. I mean he took it to her junior, the Santa so amazing is this fight, gonna happen now, because I don't know anymore, junior first hunt is that, yes, oh my god, it's gonna be a fight for junior man, yeah man yeah. I love I love when guys. Like you hear about and finally go. Oh or you don't know man, no, he is a because hunt. You can't not come out to do. Is our mother fucker yeah? Well, you can't come out. I mean Melvin Mockman. Even man. Did you see that fight yeah? Okay, watch the fight in slow motion. I bet you because we were still cups in HOLLAND right. He knocks him down. Yes, he lose falls forth, but Hunt falls on his cup watch. You see him book hitting the cup. Then he flies down. I go. I guarantee you, the extra steel still cup put sealed,

He knows he'll decade, but I remember Mikel croak of kicking in with his freakish in interface that he just took any notice. First, I me did a foot. He said Opel. It is a good idea to give me any get up like forget, Terminator yeah and the get go super samoan, scary guy, and then he can he can barrow can bank. Did you see that right? It wasn't right on the spot. There right of this book very hit that okay, yet over and he's old way way more experienced striker than anybody else in the? U of c that we set up. The only thing you guys in on his level as far as experience is Alistair because he's the only other guy that won the Grand Prix yeah and I also won the Grand Prix Clean where, as some Hunt won it because that crazy fight, he I would race, cell phones and then race, so couldn't continue so he went and- and he took a rate- suffers place and won it right. You know but yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I know he did, but I gotta get a say sake normally because they are when they spar. You know, I know, was held on yeah, but over a minute and sake did as fighting to finals with a broken hand in a broken arm right.

You know so we saw what that would be a great five between the two of those were both our healthy yeah. I love the. Act at that k, one moment is not really K one as much as it is glory. Now. And you know, there's there's just been more high level kickboxing on television these days. It's really come back, it's a great show, a really is a great show, You know such high level strikes. I was here at the airport there because they have there somewhere, you know know on a century. I was about four weeks ago there was a glory show, and I was amazed with a television. Like I was truly amazed to kickboxing- tells tell coming from America and That was not in the past like this. You know, and these guys look really good- why I think MMA is fed it to the point where Do you realize how important more more thai skills are to win in MMA and then more people sort of gravitating towards more tie yep? And then you know, I think we were

seeing when you see the highest level, like you see like a Giorgio Petrossian or something like that real high level technical guidelines, we realise that, while the level of striking is probably the most entertaining entertaining and exciting part of mma. The level of striking is way higher in, like high level kickboxing that mma role, yeah yeah way higher know for sure. Like Anderson, I think it could be a high level kickboxing only gonna, you know, still show some of the high kicks. I get his knees and and as crazy that your kitchen timing in his hands is specifically really good. Yeah. I don't know if he's got a really good roundhouse kick to the head. I never really see a make that fusional common, like in the blasted Yushin in the second first rounder. It was less formidable sure you if she yeah yeah, that's true, okay, good, good, good, good roundhouse kick to the face done done, then the Bell Rang and then finish them off in the next round. Yeah ba in it. Against a chill he threw from a weird angle. I thought I got I gonna hold out, but I think I was just he was. He was too excited too

I jail, and he really was active time. You know come out, you know what that's when you start, making those little like this get mistakes, dot fight with the little Stephan Bonnar Fight was the most brutal version of Anderson Silva. That was incredible. That was, I was Literally, there was a moment in my life and my more mouth was open. That was the moment when he just moved back. Move moving spoof resting How can I stop them? we stepped on border. Of course, I've been in Brazil Forest Iphone Forest Griffin Forthwith, unless there was in my mind that was just number legal was the most The thing ever the man handle them so moving letting miss that image mission go punk and ride on that button. You know so beautiful he's so accurate. Do you think he's the best ever you know yeah he's of their fate, or I still put up there also. I cannot all these great three so I sprites he's got to be up. There may be guys but yeah he right now I mean who can stop Faye during his prime, like the

a days we got beat Nogueira. He was unbelievable when he beat crow cop. You know he was so good back then, just beating everybody and the way he did it so calm, I would love to see a prime fade or versus a prime came Velasquez. Yeah. If we could go back in time with cane take the cane of today and bring it back if I fade or who yeah yeah yeah, that would have been amazing fight, yeah, good, stuff yeah. We are so lucky now to see this evolution. And cane is another one of those guys that just you know, he's got a full skill: set, throws leg, kicks head, kicks, punches and the stamina. I love that, although in the union the sound those varieties start running out of also, you know not with this pace but to strength gotta,

a you know. The ground and pound was not not effective anymore, not not to knock him out to me through a hundred million punch out nobody's assess what everybody and everybody goes. One guy told me one time and I see a but I'm have to say well look at cave and he goes be, but really hot really hard, and I go really do the is the answer you just gave it to yourself. Well, just raining really hard. He was a relatively small heavyweight is a little heavier than you had about. Two hundred and forty but realistic Kane. When you look at him, has a b carries more body fat as well yeah. You know it's interesting. How the this seems like that's about as big as you need to get like those big wanted, sixty five pound guys, we have cut, we can get you you all you only sacrifice something you do always always, and I think the cane has that that burning inside from his family, you know what they showed on tv when they did specials specials on them, then he wants to prove, for his family he's got all you know his his old father working hard and he's got that mentality a guy like that.

That is a hard guide to beat and there he will always be ready that You know you is the first time Kane was gonna beat him exactly the way ass. He did to second time, because I thought so it's gonna I'd work him no budget never had anybody pressing hard hardest game can do and he's going to work. Him in a championship runs probably might seal the deal there, but then he his for the trailer, also that they mean you can't say, take any women junior, no, not as a vicious knockout striker. You don't buy coke up out. He dug for doom out to everybody. You know yeah as the animal yeah. He really is that room knockout was brutal, but the difference being that came to was injured, here s pretty, that that already seriously injured like you could move and a new focus. Beyond that injury course always like that yeah, so he he wasn't able to really. You know like attack and and have the this, the mobility that he likes. Women. The second fight was all about him move forward. That's at taking away the striking

that pace on you know, nobody can stop the juror no metal reach right from I mean it has almost no striking skills, but he is stopped and he's got stamina yeah. You know when he fought MIKE Pyle. I never forget this. He beat my pile with the combination on the ground, underground the east side, to into a submission which blew me away. Nobody outwork him. You know he just got got him and then later I overheard him talking, and and their lorries she's like frigging freaking. What is it rain man. You know he said I know. Yeah, I know that you did you did it before years ago. I was rolling with you and you did that to me. So I knew that was the counter was going to be go. Do remember. For four years ago he said he's a strange cat. Mat is a great guy to abuse human. He loves to cutting weight. Fasting for him. Oh, I love to love loved trees. That's why

the universe and all of its potential possibilities in the multiverse. I you be here him. I love this guy, but he's a sweetheart of a guy and very very tough guy too, and knocked out Ben radically, unbelievable raise your cell phone belated, but our working always doubt these examples, I he makes the most the best most technical fighters in the world makes him look like crap, because why he can take a punch and just comes forward, and then you can be a great striker. You cannot strike moving backwards in if you really push it, you shut down the whole striking again. That's how you fight a great striker and man, which is an interesting guy because he's not burdened down with ego. No, you know, I think, a lot of guys with all their macho bullshit. Like you talk a lot of ship for a fight. You carry that around with you like that, that that becomes like a weight that you carry when you get inside the cage. When you, when you say I'm going to rip his head of machine, is now you know that you know, you know those kind of things.

You have to understand that at the moment you have to go to the fight. They play that big screen, extreme sea or sell, saying that and now you're gonna go ahead and do it at that. Right away. Wait on your shoulders. You should never do that's why I never did stare downs. I don't like to get angry. I don't want it to make I to say little things in interviews that puts them off so, hopefully get really angry at me, like the whole thing with chemo Leopoldo. I never asked but they, but they That is why, when I went to the door, photo shoot for. My last fight was a wfa, It was there and I said, keep how you doing and he shook my hand and he looked right away away and I go wow. I go to eleven. I say why he's taking this fight serious right and he says we told him which specifically asked for him. I say why would you say that while I get to me, you don't look as Mozilla. Angry is better fortified and I go Okay, so I figured I'm not going to say anything because then at least will very aren't you know we're going to get a good fight, but

I always thought that I specifically, I part I didn't do they say we want to fight association. This, Why so all they always say he's the best. So I would like to tell my skill is: are we don't have the money for that? money money would have for for to fight Hicks Hickson Gracie. Now how much would it back then? I would the same thing I would, if I with to Hixson to fight it, for this. They said they couldn't afford them. They said. Couldn't wait for him, ok or for me, was two hundred and fifty at the time. So should they pay him how much it is. I think six million or subjects shown something high, something I I don't know I don't know, but I heard a really great. You know if you read any of that, we know better, don't believe it, but really high number, but I just You know I would love to, because I have nothing agent, and I we met in in China, everything's cool, you know, there's nothing going on, because

Yes, he is a really nice guy. I don't know who he was talking points greasy won the very first UFC and Horace Gracy who's, a brilliant brazilian Ju Jitsu practitioner who really kind of expose brazilian Jujitsu to America and showed it to a showcased at his brother. It was the the champion of the family, his brother, apparently by all accounts, is the greatest brazilian jujitsu artist our and that everybody who rolls of them pretty much universally says is that Hicks and it's just on this on the level. So you what you want to fight him do you for that. I write and even I will going to grow that would like, because at that time I thought I just well. I just want to show you how you in Japan, in pancrase when you won the king of Pancrase, he had also won Japan Valley, Tudo like within a year of that right. Was sitting there. When I was in the Buddha gun knocked the guy out and- and I wasn't it when they were on the cover of black Belt magazine, saying that that is so, I you know to say, say: okay, then I want to test the skills and that's

That's where actually jealous said. As I would like to fight you, my dear rules, we will better rules will make any annual anytime and what happened at it never happened. You know you trying to do from pride is that we are trying to find out whether banquet was there, but I said I don't mind any organization anywhere it I'd I'd. Let us fight happen for me for once I put the fans to decide to two key about four finding. If you really as a fighter, go in for for yourself. It doesn't really matter. I always told my guys like this. If, if they put me with Randy Couture in this room, they look the room and we fight The really matter wins. You know. If he's today we winds. If I'm better, when you know it does but the watches for a a fighters to come out and all the people know, and then Chris leave instead of very forty one time at our show. He says: yeah, the guy, a block, buster told me what I should have done. When is Anderson you you know, and then I say you see see, but but a lot of fighters care about that right, I always say the fight as well. She I fight for my family, wrong right away fight for yourself, man for

I, if you fight for yourself, you fight the best. If you really don't give a damn about anybody, what they think you fight, the best, because it is not to lose. You know everybody can have that that that's the mindset I had with. You know, although I thought it was going to beat him, but I would say you know it doesn't really matter. This is testing the skill against somebody who everybody thinks is the best guy in the world. I would love to test that that was the only thing that was one of the things that Randy. Oh. He said that I found very admirable that he would say that to his fighters when they were going out to fight he even if you lose. If you look the worst thing in the world who lose and you'll be fine, you still have your friends, you still have your love ones, get that out of your head. Don't worry about that! Don't worry about losing, because sometimes we concentrate on not losing. You can't see what you're doing yeah. Well, I yeah you can't relax. I say a different, I say as long as you fight us, you cannot lose you go to Japan. I had like Vernon Tiger wide one all but lost whole bunch fights in a row, and it was

of people waiting for him to get autographs and these people, but he fought you know if you're on the grannies fan mentality is very different as well, but if you lay on the ground and somebody lifts his arm for Grandpa in you, tap you'll never be back in Japan, they'll boo. Then they get vicious. You know and the I tell my students as long as you fight, you know, if you leave out there. You know it doesn't matter, you you want to lose it you know to you, can never never, while also so always always puts out you're always involved in improving yourself, you're work in progress and, and you find those great fighters fighters better than you. You don't realize what you need to work on and that that You show me a guy who knows who made this quote, but I put it on twitter. The other day we yesterday show me someone who has made mistakes and I'll show you someone who hasn't done anything yet and that's it's true. It's like you, you you, you have to

PETE in order to really understand it? First of all how much it sucks to lose yet and that will motivate you more. The guys that are always problematic or the guy is super town did the win, easy that don't have to train hard and then some day, someone catches up to them and they did and they lose they lose its always stamina. You watch me totally beat. Buddy into Jim, dominate everybody, and once fight on your own page. You never get tired. You can fight for two hours, but if you have their guy that pushes a new breed. Stop your be interrupt your breeding better! That's what I always say. You know that's demo but you know if somebody hits to back. I'm stand behind him I'll, kick him out of the blue to the body not to knock him out. You know why I did that. I do so he has to flex at that particular moment and it interrupts his breathing pattern and that's why you're getting tired kicking heart, just make him over their justice, and also you know here

it, and that's how you get tired too. That's also the issue with Nick Diaz right with all his Pat Pat Pat punches. You you never can breathe. You never get a chance to take a break and relax. Yeah he's this this guy, who just flashed through everything. Now, what do you think about that fight? That's coming up this weekend, Nick Diaz, fighting George George Pierre Johnny, Hendricks Hendricks, is Carlos Carlos Condit Jake Jake Ellenberger is fighting Nate Marquardt, assuming it's great flocking fights man, that's going to be a really, it show a it, it's so hard when you think, if, if GSP places game what he normally does he's a really good rest, so we know we can take him down, but the Nick DE has to be on the ground he has to. I would needs. He needs to fight if he gets taken down to get back up and if he keeps fighting keeps fighting George a lot spend a lot of energy hometown for George a lot of pressure on his shoulder. A lot of people don't want to lose. You know so that he already dead,

sure, maybe already to care a little bit of a little bit of his stamina. You know took a twenty percent away, the more pressure, the more stamina get taken away from you. You know he needs to be super super relax it if he doesn't let him to be super. Relax constantly escapes escapes finds that they gotta fight back to get up. You know, then that might be a trouble for George, but if we judge of fighting last time ago, Condit Man I love that George, that's that's the guy, I want to see again a guy who he was working and it was working hard and that's what he needs to do with yes, but he needs to stay out of the car, preferably I I would sail have got you know and if you go to got hot Scott Dolan closed Close ACT, that's going to be a problem for you, counsel, from from half guard at ground and pound playing the game on the guard. A smart thing to do with Nick Yeah Nick has a hell of a guard. We saw that in the sideboard five

type tap cyber. Only if we can collapse on a yeah, the go me fight, yeah he's a he's very under rated. I think I think he's got a he's got a lot of brazilian jujitsu skills that we rarely see because over the past couple years, he's been beaten guys up on feet. That's it and that, and that now George has to overcome that. Reach that long hand constantly peppering peppering them, but I think he will shoot straight through it with them. Some you know yeah. I I think that Nate may be he would work really hard on any sorry Anita deface to undertake down, because I think the they will be there anyway, because she's such a good restaurant, it's going to be hard to stop him by Kenny, still still stop in in the championship rounds. If it goes in there, well in the question is going to be well well, is he going to try to stop them, or is it going to try to pull guard is going to try to roll with it and just lock up a good position right away like you did with go me or you know like he did with cyborg. He has

very nasty guard me Nicky is a high level black belt and that fuckin stamina, man, that's a big deal. That's the thing! You know. If you fight a guy like that, you know what would you say to make scholars fatigue, makes cowards out of element. It really is real, been there, you know. Did you really tired? I had If I did, I go my god. I hope it and thankfully I hey not to my with the needs of the liver, but I was I was really about to stop. Almost you know a you. You everything syncs away, yeah! You know I was sick, also, but I mean starts with stamina and and fatigue and then, when you see him still going strong at some mental crusher men and that's the thing that GSP now has, he knows that whatever happens, it's not going to run the of yeah next not going to. I guess, but you know what George has always been very, very good condition. Yeah! Well, you know it's it's interesting! How many fighters get sick for fights? It's a it's a huge issue. I always had it with the taekwondo days. I get so

for your nerves, yeah. But I think also lot is the cutting weight ass. It is now, but has also just hard training, not watching their diet. I never. I never had that. I brought my own food. I brought my own low bread at all that stuff, I was not going to get food poisoning forget about it. I brought my own water. You know you heard stories in Japan that they would something you know what I don't want to take a risk of whether it's to a myth or not. I don't, can I bring my own water nobody's going to touch it. You know and the at least I could have the dumbest thing and and that those those guys who go today before I go to a Mcdonald's, sushi place, know and they're going to eat like bad sushi. They go yeah, that's food poisoning, you're an idiot, that's part Your training- you should not have done that by take that risk, you know, is the dumbest thing you can do is like the guys with a bad mouth piece. You know it, but when I so or five with the mouthpiece, it fell out the whole time. You know that drives me nuts. There should be a penalty for that. You know constantly fall out. Who does that you're, a professional fighty? You need a good mouthpiece right yeah.

Do you. Are you still training train on a on a regular basis? You know it's hard now, because I had that neck surgery and last week I did two sets of pushups eighteen, which gave imagine I did your hundred twenty for fun, again today, and so I know, oh, my god, I'm so weak and then after today's I lost all power. So I know there is something that, when it swells up for the flares up. It stops my nerve from getting in tomorrow. I'm I'm going to find out more ten forty five in the morning going to find out they in the nerve conduction test where that market is, and I think once they can open that up, then everything's going to be jobs you're, I have to have another operation. I don't know, maybe they say: oh well, it's rest or this or maybe they do it at the Doral there right on the spot. That will loosen it up. Something like that, but my nerve in my neck jump from the LOS eighty percent. He said when we opened your neck, a jump back same level, a shadow on whose husband do this for years and years now it's a nightmare, but you know I used

a crazy guy trading. I I was kind of my own stuff. You know, because I I I was talking to people world champions and it would teach what do they say. They go hard on Fridays. Seventy percent and I go and do you do for the rest of what we train. I said you spar one day a week, yeah I started laughing laugh said, but it really so, as I support to time today, We go hard I'll, try to knock you out. Legacy, a body a you do it to me and on the hatch of course, I'm not gonna knock him out, but I get back to get a good tool for that. Well, we go, we go right. No, I I that's why. I never ring rust. When I came back in two thousand and six. You know I didn't fight, six shares right, but I had no problem because it two times a day. We have a fight, that's what we're doing so. I feel great what about the wear and tear, though from doing that, that's the thing at that that's the day, but I the advice to every fighter now is to always get the right equipment make sure you pack in May

sure you ankles a tape. Things like that because with the ship protection, how to get really good cheer protection. That has also you know with the instep. They have protection there. Now you know so that cannot be like when you an elbow rye and those are bad injuries. All time you know watch out just back yourself and make a good mouthpiece, get a professional mouthpiece right rises. Saint put grease on your way to watch for cuts. I play everything safe. You have guys training, though, do you have them spar that same way twice a day. You know going all we have people coming in with us and they want to inspire on Sundays and they turn around when they seem far. They go like That's that started since Carlo rumbled, his brother came to teach at my gym. This is now we're going to start like we do in HOLLAND and that's the way we used to do He's got going yeah, but all the other guy guys our guys already used to it while they just don't care they just go but but to get the right equipment slowly. She has the right that you don't get beat the. Where is your your gyms and thousand oaks right? Yeah? It's

on Hampshire, wrote eight eight zero Hampshire. What is the website? If people want to get some information about the a M M, a gym does come, and so you have our Ramon DEC brothers is teaching down there. Teaching there yeah he's like a long time in the US there for for whole career teaches all those those holds of bits of type for all the time, guys Ovary Peter Earth. Versace I mean all these guys have been there. You know so he's a yeah really great. What is his name, Carlo, Carlo Deckers, Carlo Deckers wow Is he there with days while he's there every day, and I was of course you still hold on because the funeral was a couple of days ago and I didn't even ask him- I told him, you know whatever time you need and to wrap things up there, because he was very close to a Monday, we're like a yet to- in the pie and that's very hard for us crazy, had a heart attack riding a bike. I mean think about all the fights that I

and also you know, yeah over to talking about two hundred and forty five or something you know, and this and this guy fighting with a broken hand in the broken food. At the same time, we would keep finding you know the guys just indestructible and also live clean healthy lifestyle now for the last six years, also, you know like being a shape. No aunt is how everything planned out. He has this child for children foundation that he set up in Thailand for these kids, who we know at no future he would give the money and all that stuff is now. You know still going to happen, now, a tshirt coming may blood lines is going to make a t shirt. One hundred percent goes to the family or to the charity, so they're working on a lot of things to keep his name out there. Of course it's fucked up. I can just be that great a fighter in an athlete just have a heart attack at forty three drop dead is the wildest thing ever you know uh, since he passed away, I drink one and a half glass of wine and normally a drink two glasses at night. To had to a maybe

I right away. I go my God, as this is really scary. He was a healthy, it was good. That was not in his family? Will we know bad hearts? Nothing just out of the blue. So definitely freak me out yeah. Well, it's to be freaking you out with all this nerve going on Bonnie yeah. This gives back. You know I I I've been always blast, will the the kind of stuff? I grew it heals fast, and I think it comes because of my my my my exam. I did. I had really bad Expresso. I was recouping fast might like my. If I had wanted training like a wound, that would be little the two day. She can tell it what it was that a good show for because that was what my skin was doing. Twenty four seven, you know so now it's I'm blessed with having that, but my neck yeah, that's in knowing that doesn't really you know, spend those blockages its here. I can feel it it's it's lumps and

the a blockage? Is it scar so as muscle spasms, but they? So what stops the? If from getting in my arm? And that's why I look at south in it doesn't fill up yet yet it will start happening and they said because of what you've done by fusing the neck. It's alleviated some of the pressures any jump back right away to on a percent. That's what they said. So this is the same. Bring to me how many people have back issues. I mean it's so disturbing is so many guys were up backs through a crazy man. I ships up right now, but it's just because I got three missile as in one day, which never do that ever yeah. Well, that's a soul or you just you're talking my muscles. You know the the the issue that these fighters are. Having is a lot different and you pal yeah, the the the wear and tear on the bodies is unbelievable. It's brutal. We would lose it in no time to recoup. Also yeah. You know I had when I was preparing for the last five I had two times we go.

I had only ten weeks for that fight. I didn't train for three years, so I have ten weeks to get a shape and two weeks from that, I didn't didn't at all for three years no you I I sent my last fight. I think I worked out maybe twenty five times as in two thousand six, six yeah. That's that's that because I started finally started finally of twinning again and my god, I feel really good like it for I was actually people always think that I just say something, and then it's not too. I say the boss, the body action system. I use it myself. The OTO trainer use it myself to myself to use myself and they go yeah just saying that I go wait a minute. I can go back on my security camera and you can actually see me training at a beggar. So I went back on the security camera and I got it for a month. Back and I was training only for five years the beginning. You see me, I'm I'm struggling men like two minute: it's really bad, but amazing, if you see like seven workers further, it's a whole different, certainly the

for the to trainer. I went from three to seven, which is a heavy. Setting already at ten pound ankle weights heavy gloves I put weights in also hitting and then one day yeah, but I watch out for the hyper extending than that when I do that, you know, or I had that busting, so you don't have the hyper extent, but it's good for the burn it for everything to get tired, and then I I do want to have an air something. I think it is a. Maybe I hyper extended and the West just wanted to go to my head dropped and I go. Oh God is back and it was it that was in October, and then they did the surgery in the January, but somehow we're getting yourself back in shape. I was gay and it was going really well, I start feeling great already I mean you: will you watch it's online? It's on the to train and to train a blog dot com. You can find a video there and your neck when the first operation they didn't fuse the disk. What they do. They made a holes around nerves, little bigger, but it was still

squeezing. So it was only thirty percent working and I knew that because herniated discs, so yes, but they only word like or a little bit less, and I knew that because I could I with ten pounds I did like twenty five reps still very weak, because I used to do more more with that, but that makes sense with the twenty five to thirty percent go okay, but then what happened is a training. I think something disk. That's what to do. Your jam happened here, not knowing what you know and are all these experience. You have especially all this experience, what your body like breaking down. What what do you tell fighters to do now? We do what do you? What do you advise them? How do you do not do what you did was wrong stretch. Stretch man stretch a lot I would stretch. I will make that one of my price, Mary things. You know watching tv stretch, while you're watching tv get to stretch bands. Do you know yeah, while you're watching tv you're busy with it doesn't doesn't really matter and good food. Don't dehydrate

for once. You start dehydrating yourself stretch. Even more men, because that's where you, your tendons, get dehydrated everything they ripped fast. As she is she a lot of that also have a close to a fight, a study hydrating to make you can get a pulled hamstring. You know and that's exactly because of that reason, you're dehydrating itself does Dennis need to stay moist. You know you need to make keep it good I watch out and as far as like what you either the kind of therapy that you're doing right now, for your for your back. Do you do any inversion therapy or any nothing

thing where their trying to do to any sort of traction? No, I I what I do. I have dish to hook so to say well in my hand, and I have to understand, to go to the first set flew over this. I hang hang and I just hang in a stretch, my arms out, and that seems to help like last week. I could do three, the with five pounds, three wraps five buttons, plow and and then I started stretching and I start mentally, focusing somebody told me just force it to be gone and individual visualize visualize how you could get rid of it. I start doing that and then yes, the evening at a ten, so that was suggested in four days, but I've been all hanging. How many of the guys you run into that? Have these issues your lots? A lot of guys have the Benji

activities in the valley as a back issue as well. Yeah yeah, the big it neck, also lost uncle lost everything he lost his back. So I believe that Cissy, seven or eight or something I think, I'd I I don't know how did x x works with me. It's set to biceps are shoulder. My shoulder starts coming back now, because that nerve goes over here over the top. That's good to start. I see the muscle start getting there. So that's good, but for the biceps and I get this carpal tunnel, that I already had but never was a problem with me now, because the nerve it is a problem. So now I can, if I grab things my whole hand spasms. You know it's really weird

before demonstrations always say guys. You see that it's not like, I'm not crazy. It's just my head should certainly like that and like when I grab something. I start it's really weird, but my wife start noticing, because I was sitting like this. The whole time says what's wrong with your hands western and I get it like. We can open it up. Yeah wow, that's gotta, be like for two days is bad mother, Fucker former you have champion is going to be really like disturbing it is. It is really the serving. I I don't like to see myself as week. I started the biking now because that I can do my knees now. You know I actually going to get a nicer bike now. So I got that because the issues as well so have no coverage in my knee caps. There's nothing they can do and I know I know everybody is gonna Malloy. I notice now. If you go to real surgeon. They will tell you is nothing they can do when you have no cartoon. He gives the only thing they cannot

actually at the cooling job told me: that's the reason why the mafiosi break you meet kneecaps is inflexible. He can't the bolt now if have patches out they get regrow, my cartilage that you get older a stem cells and they get and that grows itself like it. They they explain like men, men of brass. When pieces are out, you put pieces of grass in there, and that goes with the other grass and it's strong again. That's how cartilage works. He says, but if you have none, there's no way they can attach it to your kneecap. Now there is something they can do. They have to drill a hole and attach a teflon plate which will work, but the unique AP is thirty, five percent weaker more chance of breaking and when it breaks you're really done you know so he said, will come. They will find something in a couple of years, but right now walking stairs getting up,

sitting down up or down. Walk in everything hurts everything. My friend Steve has his knees. He was on the US ski team he's had like. I don't know some insane amount of knee surgeries more than twenty knee surgery well yeah, and he has that he had no cartilage in his knees as well, and he's got these steel plates that are over the tops of his his like where, where the car would used to be, they resurfaced it yeah, but they do they go with lasers in and then it bleeds out right and they they get. They can do that too. But with me, is the kneecap like with you there standing on each other, those that said the kneecap when I stretch. Agatha bended, it already moved again show wherever they are it is in constant motion. You can do anything like between two needs between your or lagging your lower leg had their stuff that they can put in between. Surface and they do that. What is that? They? Let you bleed?

unless you bleed your own blood. You know the nobody wanted me believe. My own blood movie was again ball or something yeah, but they drill the holes in the knees as that is bleeding, and that serves or like that wow yeah. That's the man's knee that. So you see the good that that I can see what a knee cap goes through. I can't tell that it were the other one go on top, but the knee cap- it's you know, but maybe all that other stuff I can. I can put something like that: On the other, about not at a new cap that is his knee cap, Yes, yeah. That's all three yeah! Well, that's the bottom piece and then the top piece and where the Cartledge used to be look at this prime, if you seen it that is great where did you do this? Well, The cutting edge he's a doctor himself, so he's well aware of what I need is number so that the just pop the thing out, that's for the folks at home can see it.

He's happy with it. Also you can see lower as I scroll down a bit. You see that white thing. That white thing is artificial, meniscus, so he's got. The double he's got, a double whammy. He's got a resurface knee, so the top of his bone is covered with this steel plate, and then he also has its white here, which is an artificial meniscus pad still trains. I need his information. I love to do that by sometimes when gonna shoot me up a zones then, for I too have weeks. It is paradise for me, like I can walk stairs, I can jump. I can job from happiness. I don't feel a thing, amazing the difference. How what did you do

Oct up all your you need currently I'm just very explosive, and I think that just scratched everything of what I'm kicking can give drilling housing cakes to do it right, yelling during the pain just go through it too. You know, and if it's Bango harder, that's and the mentality right to the age, I gotta goes to the store through its. Would you now you've done not, although when you seem like the what what that damage can do your body, no one would ever know I live. I regret everything is good. I why did I do is so crazy, but now and when I see fighters go full time to go. Sometimes I go well. It's weird that I did all that you know: did it you'll? You look crazy back at life with that. I after have out of it. Yeah several is where I ever had, though, is gush over people? Go like? Oh look at him, but it's really not. I never was nervous like that. I was really good at talking to my I do everything in my life. What I went through, I realized it was.

Meditation. I never taught everybody taught me anything, but I'm just really talking to myself. What's the worst thing that can happen well, you know the worst thing that can happen. You knock out you're, not going to feel it. Okay, you're going to get submitted, Julia Tap and it's over okay, okay, it's the people talking! That's the worst thing! Really! if you think about it. People talk about yeah. So as I don't care about that, I would have known it and I would always in that zone I would I would. I was addicted to that feeling going there and go and that I would hear I could hear I would tell people's conversations at the first row after us. I will go back, I say are you talking about the movie yesterday evening or right, but the Smith I was. Gift, hi kick I'm We listened to the utter corner and he goes watch out for high high kick right away, so I switch for straight punch and that was also Japan right with a really quiet in the one that was here in America against cost you see by First Sea fight Costa and then Maurice-

Smith was saying yeah because he saw me setting it up. And so I change this right. I switch it to a straight punch because I heard him and I told him I say you should be quiet. He says bus you're, probably the only Guy Elizabeth, the other going in you know, but I used to always like in a Gmos but blood book. It's so funny to read he says? Yeah bus was always talking. You know, I think you kind to did it to for self meditation then I say: ok, what do you think I I have a dutch gorner. Why do you think I was talking English speaking English. I did it for a reason. If I do it in Dutch they're not going understand what I'm saying, but if I'm in the middle of a I look at my corner, I say: do you want to go to punkin tonight? What were you gonna go modem tonight, ok, go when you go to drink I will just do crazy stuff stuff. Then we could you fighting in those fighters will go like what the hell is that this is just it's just a distraction, and I will do it in English, because I don't

could understand. So that's why I spoke English when you put together this gym out in thousand oaks. Is you know you got a really nice thanks very nice when you were you thinking about starting a team and and and training fighters and moving on to next phase of the owner know. For me, it's just a good place that I can go and train. I can still teach I almost I'm, I'm pretty much almost as old as time there on Tuesdays and Thursdays to teach a six o'clock myself for a general or but also prose been coming in, because I go back to debate and basic of effort of all the magic happens. Trust me in a lot of pros, forget it or or their teeth, don't want to say it anymore, because now he's sighed again that really high level, and I don't care where you are, I'm just going to tell you. Would you do wrong? You can hit harder. If you do, I just try it out and most of the time cried out, go! Oh my god much harder. She did just forget certain things I like to put him back on the basics, and I like to have a gym at my is very close to my house in us and I could actually be there Sunday morning, you know I'm going to start doing no more. I got to the fight classes with the guys just enjoy

I have a really good partner. You know who were thankfully help me out a lot, because without him we could have not been open because we lost a lot of money to make the gym. But now we are at a place like the last half year, start, a fight is to make money, and that's that's of two years being here a six years of the other place it ages. We never made any money we broke even at the other place. This is an agent after hours Square Foot Blaze, you got saunas, we I mean it's a really nice place and people love it. You know what if I did the thing that we have a thirty people sign up, say a month, a five stay and those eighty five there, all these stuff, guys that come in and beer. And their bodies say: hey man, you can do that shit. You know you got to do that real, look at that. They make a lot of money. So then they come in then they get beat up by blue belts the little kids at that

that's how much do to program there as well yeah I got to Hodrigo Cavallo. He was so grand champion there last year, the gracious God six weeks. She told me this morning is going to go another gun in the long beach he's unbelievable. He came in was five days in the country and he want. He told me about The Naga championships are in Vegas. You think I should go. I say you think you can do it. He said I said, but you didn't train, he said no, I want to do it. I said we'll drive you over there. She brought him He won gold right away and then he won the one at the Gracie. He won gold again, so a very high level. Yes, I need you to buy that guy. You know, get the disease yeah both and he is I've ever had one complaint for You know a sorry. You got to do five classes more because we're not pulling it now right now. I know problem boom right away. You know. Like the best best. We have everybody Although the parents for kids and everybody's telling me my God, is such a great guy to teach kids classes out, the is also one of the kid classes.

At four o'clock most of the time yeah four o'clock on Saturdays. I believe at noon. That's great thousand oaks, where you're out is an awesome spot speed is really nice. So why you'll be yeah? Now it's what when we arrive there, we made to turn or mostly boulevard. I saw the promenade there with you know, order was a band playing. Friday night. There was I go while we want to live here. You know no parking meters nothing. You know nice place that school system, like blue, ribbon schools all around here. No, it's! It's cool for the kids. Safe second saves to do that in the in the country. You know the other one as Irvine Irvine for events like the safest. So yes it in the country yeah. Irvine is very, very safe. It's all white people. Yes, yes, you know. If I, if I, if I was a criminal, you don't worry. My tongue is, of course, the whole the garage doors, my friends he had to six thousand dollar, but I can leave the garage door. We always said you got to close the garage sure enough. There still is

I can thousand thousand Alex essay. But that's that's Marty. Criminal goes to those place because it or you don't have to, you know, because it says safe. That's why I got robbed in Burbank, that's sketchy. Yeah yeah yeah, that's right, yeah. He had to our banks very close to a lot of this funky areas. You know thousand oaks in the middle of nowhere yeah, nobody, let's go there. You, but once you're there it's, they call it pilot town, because the pilots would she from the top that there was no pollution there. That's how it got started with all pilots living there, and then it becomes yeah. I have that's interesting and then it became a because it shows the valley, as it did with fifty miles out of the valley, where, like far away from them with us, it's like four degrees, lower temperature for the temperature wise than the valley yeah, you get that breed from the ocean too. I feel like the further you can get away from LA the better you're at there's too many fuckin people here

I said the other day out Saturday. In the afternoon. Okay, I drove down to meet a friend of mine and bellflower, so I drove a it took me two hours to get there in two one slash two hours to get back at Saturday, bumper to bumper traffic stopped dead on the one hundred and thirty four stopped dead on the four hundred and five. I switched to the two hundred and ten stop dead. It was Fucking nuts, the one hundred and one stop dead. The five stop dead everywhere on Saturday. Like what happens if this shit hits the, and that's why I always save all my telephone calls. I save that for one day, if I, for instance, have to go to San Diego, that's where all my phone calls not happening, because I save up for that time. A two and a half hours on a world. So whatever it is, maybe three hours of this traffic and then I make all the phone calls. Are you driving to Canadian? Okay, as do it at the same time? You know what I do: bus route and that's an audible, dot, com, audible, dot, Gov

there? Is these disease fox again? Is that whatever the commercial and non commercial? I do, though it's its audible books, audio books or maize? Oh you know I love and h land. They have decent crime cases. I love that you know and then the man walked in, but he forgot one thing when that left to another thing, the I'm mysterious on I don't know it'll NHL headline Headline NEWS from CNN: I guess it is or something so: satellite radio, yes light radio. Then you get those those great things work things you know watching the Jody areas case like that and If she gets out. That's like the weird thing that total psycho once I go, I mean those head to head with the prosecutor and there when she thinks, is the best of him she like chuckles. I got you, I go to it,

cereal watching you, you know, you'll see they see it. If you don't know the story she stabbed, the guy we set a bunch of, but there She goes to the problem because she said she shot him first, but now all the blood was there and the shell casing was the top of the blood so she shot. She killed him first, stab him in the back rented the special card, I want to give a red car she's. No, I want a white one because you didn't want to attract attention you in all three, of gasoline, so she didn't have to stop anywhere, so she could be traced back. I mean was the wildest thing that a twenty two gun, which happened to be the murder weapon, the before she left very mysteriously disappeared from her. Grandparents she bite away. Lives was there was a break in your lot at the story. All this isn't, as it's amazing, isn't fucked up when you see someone whose life just went completely off the rails, when you see someone crazy, like that, just one day wax out just

somebody on this one. You know she was like. He months away from him and she was still following him- he did things on stage whatever was public speaking or something she would like make pictures and she would tell people, isn't he beautiful but while they already separate, I go Yoda. That's that's where we're gonna around here, well, that guy fuck, the shit, oh, that's part of what happened there. That guy broke her that she did. So that was the reason to her. Oh everything, he did everything well, but now she tries with to say battle pedophile. You know, and it's like what I mean drags through the month: poor guy, you know exerted that yeah yeah spare has already done the worst. I know it's amazing yeah the they sent my friend Tony's era, melatonin rents, turtle from Columbus. He has a great saying that I say all the time said psychotic.

And Roddick are very close to each other, hello, yeah, very close to each other, and those really crazy. Girls are often times the best in bed there yeah yeah, so nobody in the ship they'll do is so crazy. So this guy I mean you, listen to some of the text messages the send their. You know, you're my dirty little hole or what I think it was only in porn movies, like the right like that, I do all this work and check his text messages we'll send you some it help for them. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So polite really there's a lot of nutty people out there. Man there's a lot of fucking nutty people very crazy people, especially in my life. The car. I I I for yeah we got to do that, your it guy stored the streets, karate guy. What happened! This is a funny story. Okay, we're at at Kimball has to fight and the before the fight we go to a Tep out party. Those people are there and then these

guys you stuff guys. Are there water, I think, selling jewelry or something anyone with a bunch of guys and and from the guys? I think he was the toughest guy so We're talking. Of course you know it, but he didn't know who I was that I was the best thing and that the people are talking about fighting and suddenly he comes to force any ghosts. Yeah I used to do karate uses, but not the normal court days to do street karate. I Well Street currently was or what is. That is all. I can tell you one thing that my routine has saved me like six seven times and I go your routine here. I go okay, you you got to show me that routine, you know because I would, but I would love to learn so the guy comes to me and actually put us in a movie. Here comes the boom. You know there was a truce talking

hey and a lot less long story. So the guy comes to me. He says first of all, I would stand there and then out of the blue, I will go and eat no! No, no is. It goes goes first with this album we close to me. He does it to me this close right and then he goes, and he was shaking in front of my face. He's serious he's serious he's this close to my face right shaking. This close at my friends, everybody's already, like almost dying laughing he says and then a moment he's perplexed by go. I go to the neck and any rate they always do. This, you said is- has no grab him, and now he kept eye contact with me right and he grabs. She says So he threw knees the body on the ground. He get eye contact with me and he stops okay. So I look at him, I go! No, you never did that. Don't bullshit

I say you practice this in the mirror and it looks really cool you. Never did you know his friends were like they will wait. For my reaction because they were in awe. You noticed this guy was how it was is glory. And when, at the moment I say, total bullshit I started talking and have not came to say no. We as it was professional professional fighter, so the whole group left, but a fact, the the face. The facial expression from all those guys, dressed the same like this guy case, which shirt over the top all jewelry everywhere. You know those guys exactly The street karate guy his routine saved his life seven times you always, and they expect that you believe that crap it was the most thing. I've ever seen and I didn't hear had, but I ever had but need today. Throw away stub right victory. You know and that I told at the backstage camera, for you comes to whom I said this

a true story. Somebody told me this technique is: allow those knucklehead right, though street defence guys fake karate guy- and you know the worst part. Is they say yeah? We cannot use it because she's too dangerous, I said well, if you can kill somebody like this, you can also not kill him right. I mean what hi, I'm a control that got a good rule. You just the technician to leave the boss. You know I stand like it's like dropping a nuclear explosion on yeah. You know I'm saying the way inspiring that yeah. I love those videos like convert videos and Gaza demonstrating techniques. Going to work and have you seen the one with the old man? Who's got this class where he he throws like people, and then the Karate guy Pences guy comes in and beats a shit and beats the shit out of his face. And then you see him bleed. He see himself. He cannot believe it, it doesn't work and he's trying that one guy he does stick it together. The guy goes like this and then he goes and he makes

some result and he falls on the ground. It's almost like. He believed his own bullshit right. Well, what are these guys doing? They're all faking it. They know they are but they're. Probably it's like mass hypnosis or mass hysteria. You know like cult behavior they get locked into believing, like I remember when I was in my takwin ow school was not like cultish in the sense like the nobody had to do anything crazy. They didn't try to get your money or get you to leave your family or anything like that. But the devotion that some people had towards the instructor was crazy, it's amazing and they didn't exploit it. But if someone did exploited, you could see how they could get some weak people that would really fall into it. It's sort of a distance. The aspect of martial arts that I went to, one of the things that I really loved about brazilian Jiu Jitsu was that it didn't kind of see that you do

see like all the boy. It was more like friendly, like when I trained with the metronows, like hey my friend. How are you coming and it was much later once they show you the technique, but they're, very friendly and more more like, like the try to place themselves above anyone there's no master this, because they don't want to be nice to you they're going to let you know that it is really effective right there and they will honor the respect that you get from them. You'll they'll aren't just by being amazing yeah, but but it's because the good all the other guys who preach and talk about it like that they're not good. They suck like every guy, who tells me that he is unbelievable, but he never fought yeah he's full of shit. Well, you know how many times has guaranteed it's not possible. He will not know if he can do it under pressure. He will not amazing. Do you know any guy? you told me that they could never lose levels, You don't know about my my my mentality get choked

an animal bro, I'm go. Why my go blank and then yeah? That's why that's done drop. I go blank get. It means you don't think that that's the easiest I hadn't just coming into my class one time I am not kidding, there's a guy walking in with stash glasses and a big belly at a blue, blue key Monos and they came, I em in HOLLAND and it worked enables eggs girls following him. It was like a cult. It was the weirdest thing ever later on. We found out. He couldn't even like a push up, it was like bizarre and every when I was shows something there would say something like one time, You know I had an hour bar and his girl says we will bite in the leg in Ojo. I slowly, but surely I figure I'm not going to say anything, but then you know it we kept going. I have somebody in the rear, naked joke and I said,

live at explaining as she goes. I I used to somebody else. She says we will bogey. I said no and I go well she's right. What was that she said we we will poke your eyes out right now. I said well. Let's find out, I mean I'm going to try this with. You is that cool yeah I I should go just go sit down. I should put my arm around her neck. I said okay in three six, I'm going to go. If you touch my, I am going to break into okay, let's go what what what what did you say? I said in three seconds: we're going go. I will come down. You can come near to my fucking. I'm going to break your neck. Ok, What are you? What do you mean? I show look, do you know what Nobody was somebody touch my eye, you think I'm gonna go now. I'm gonna go get my idle and I'm gonna to go. Then my eye hurts that face was awesome, never never bug with somebody who has a dominant position over you. If I have you in an arm bar Ann, you by my calf guess, what's going

break at that moment is the most idiot thing that people We believe that if you put a finger, my I've been a lead, a life in that situation, I'm going to let go of the choke. Really. You know I'm going to snap the next. So I'm not going to let go to church, but not only that people don't understand how quick you go unconscious like we have some a rear, naked choke on you, especially if you don't really know defense, you haven't been choked a lot before you don't know how to relax. You don't know how to to do. You know how hard it is to poke an eye yeah. I do the very hard it's very hard. I squeezed my eye. I put my eye against the back of your neck back of your head, Would you used to do in boss Milton is fighting in a sport type situation where you got rules see the street. There are no rules. You know I like. I cannot fight without rules like I guess, thereby still only. I can do a better, more accurate as well out of

this role- I do this radio show, I won't name the guy, but there is a god they had, as their body guard he's a total bullshit artist and he was a we do it with videos. Do a nun chucks instead, okay, so soon as it is named best upon Ob Anthony Show and we were on the show once and this I mean I'm fine, you know you can do whatever you want, but as soon as you're on the air you represent, you know you. I got a. I got to tell the truth. You're on the radio. Now people gonna listen to you and if I let you get away with some nonsense yet, and yet you still but not at not me man, some young kid to be listening to that, and they want to start a martial art and they get sucked into doing a stupid, creates street karate classes yeah. Because- and I I go- listen it's real simple. The ship that works on train killers is the best

yeah, you don't see Anderson Silva, you know practice in I pokes in front, although I pokes pretty there's good yeah, there were to be be, you don't see him doing in the you know of death, touch shouldn't and you know pressure point. Attacks that shit doesn't work. It doesn't work on on on camera we had an email from somebody said that master could point precious aid. They could knock you out. I got a great story, but is also with me anyway, I looked in the camera. I say: ok, anybody in America. You're watching right now, if you have a person who it who says that he can knock me out with punch like it just pressing somewhere we invite him. We pay him. We by history, he can come on to show we can do it on camera on me. You can knock me out, It's a no Lucia situation for me because if it works, I'm I'm signing up. Do that stuff, but I tell you

not going to work. We had this guy, but you know Amira Press. You know know also right, my buddy, we these these guys stage and the touch guys right yeah. So one guy goes this thick did this with. They just fall back and then the guy said, did you see his eyes roll back in his skull? means you was heard for real, so go to I gotta go, we very much this so these guys go marking down after this I say, ok do did to me. I want you to to me when we look at Are you sure about that? I I I you know. I want to know how to feel, and he goes. You know what I could actually uh. I got something better, so we already steered away from it right. So he says uh, let me show you this and he walks over to his body. They start talking to each other and then he walks. Way and in the corner he stands like this, like I mean

crazy, any run stalwarts his friend, and he goes like this. And amid air he stops Any flies on the ground, so he threw like Kung, fu, forehands and touch him doesn't touch him. I go. Do it I'm sold. Do that to me I'm going to take you right now. So I'm going the and he goes yeah, but to be a really angry. Really angry, otherwise it won't work. I say your friends The right I said I, I can better act than your friend. Don't worry I'll, be in the zone but really says nano, because if it, if you're not real angry, it doesn't work, it to be that balance. So I know it was his way out. So I walked over to him standing this I say, keep me into pills and he says I think, maybe I can really work which he didn't want to do and, needless to say, I mean, but their idiots did. You really believe that is

Well, it's so easy to take someone who doesn't know anything like who's, a student and trick them like that and be a comment like that. You know what the worst thing is just teaching. Out there. They give you a false sense of security and then you they teach you how to defend the knife. You know grabbing the rest. I mean that never did that. I mean just so: dangers knives danger than a gun on a short distance, at least and you should the wrong way and then something happens on the streets and he pulls a knife and he goes to his buddy did step back. I got it yeah, you know I think I killed Eddie rather has a crazy story abandoned that guy's. Full of is that are going to hold any Bravo when it was first learning. Martial arts actually almost gone into an alteration before he knew jitsu. He does first learning martial arts. He really thought he was going to be able to like attack this guy and put him away with some faint karate shit, Diego shape and he had a bad eddies first instruct

the fake guy, in order to guy, said that he went to was going to China to train with the months ago. It will all be back in a week I'm going to try to train with the monks, so it was at the supermarket and saw the guys cars like a you ran the guy. The supermarket was supposed to be in China. Trainings dominance is just what is this guy who killed the you know to fail Tory yeah. He would say that he will go into forest yeah. He would fight the whole tournament and he would come back and yet like his bloodied up knuckles and only a trophy story- Rafael Tories name was not really Rafael. Toro know that I was a fake name. The lady was a fake brazilian jujitsu blacked out and he had his friend. Drop him off in the woods that I'm about to fight in a cute cat to the death tournament and so he's carrying his bag and in the bag. He had this fucking trophy already he's. I drop me off in the woods Thy'Re going to me me here and then I'm on a fight or a couple day and I'll see in a couple

yeah. So then his friend comes back two days later pick him up yeah. I want everything. Here's my trophy, the fuck. You think I'm retarded you brought that bag. I brought that trophy in a bag, but you know he came from that era, where you could get away with fake, insured people believe that I have a lot of guys who believe stuff. You know it's at present. Cover of magazines and they there isn't there that and nobody's absolutely nobody. But people, blue and directors believe that oh yeah oh, my god. This guy man is dangerous. When you think is the Gauls Cigars claims see the interview leader with Michael Chauvelin are no less in your face. The thing is this: the thing is Yeah here I go back here I go back to. Did you ever compete? Not right, you know, but I I I I to enter without a guys. We would fight in. Don't you we all know that fight. The dodo fighting the pressure in a cage or in ring whatever you cannot even compare to each other. I always explain

body a mere, perhaps always would say it. You know if you take it to buy for like a long twenty feet, long right and you you have to walk over it. It's an easy thing to do. You just walk over twenty feet. Long now you put that same bar, up about two buildings: twenty stories up and now you have to walk over there, now. It's a whole different ball game and it's not so easy anymore. That's the same as the fighting an aspiring, nothing compare! many dulled you'll find, as you know, that tear up everybody, including the professionals, but when they fight themselves they can't find the panic you know and that's why I always say until you, never you complete it. You can never tell you. Can the boy, but I don't care gotta go. I gotta see it. I gotta see you fight, I don't believe people saying that you're good. I want to see you Training under pressure with people around. So down so important wise words by boss, rules and gentlemen. Learn knowledge, respect

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