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#437 - Scott Sigler

2014-01-07 | 🔗
Scott Sigler is an American author known for science fiction and horror books, such as Nocturnal, Ancestor, Infected and Contagious.  Before being published, Scott built an online audience by giving away his self-recorded audiobooks for free as podcasts on iTunes.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
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Digg is remaining downright he's, definite moving his eyes, gonna be here for the winter. Look, it's my ten in New York right now quarters every area I don't call this I've ever heard about it. I never heard about minus ten miles. Tens ridiculous got secular, It is through does not necessarily right. I move four Michigan, specifically as I don't minus ten or twenty or thirty may begins rough dude? live there. Your whole life they're right up to about early early thirties or so would you think, I'm too, after the Wet Salmon Cisco, that's good place, the goal was dead, Nino traits the country three months, there are six months I never made us. I'm just gets a big difference between this. The general mentality of Michigan versus separatist, goats, very unusual. When you go to places that are so completely differently, go I'll! Look! This can happen to punch people. Just act like this or you know you can get a leg Vancouver something where everybody is nice and friendly. Ok, heed this: is weird tower everybody's nice friendly or you gotta
this could have until the early. There really is a culture until there is, there really is a cultural signature to every place and the difference between Michigan and sandwiches go as pre dramatic way I feel like when you made that transition also new around all these, like a mean to San Francisco, Sue, for liberals and really like open minded about I always feel like as far as like socially when you look at the higher country like as far as like the most progressive parts of the country. You have the coasts, always in other the most progressive, but at all from San Francisco seems to be the most extreme. The first to be like super accepting of gaze, the first of May the whole Berkeley, psychedelic Movement, Allah Chief necessities, the echoes of that's still fillip to hanging around that place. It's really it's an it's even changing again now with all of the dock.
This version of dock on the Tec, people and rents arising real estates, never really slimy levelled out at a couple places, but it's never dropped in its come back up and you know the enemy forty for people working irregular job to even be to to live in a city now, so it's that the whole, I think the whole liberal just out of the places changing again and now it's just becoming about money. You totally write them. The real thing prices, there are fucking crazy There is there's one neighbourhood and I was looking at her. Stir out of their vision, France, likewise places beautiful, Psych near San Jose. This house's we're like a regular. It was like a regular house. It was nine million dollars and does it what the fuck that's a regular house the crazy mansion is a beautiful house, but it Just a House Fraser House House, the biggest shock we had was. We came to San Francisco and
looking around and one of the place funds literally a converted. It's one bedroom apartment that is now a tendency in common or condo. So one bedroom bout. Seventeen forty square feet was eight hundred thousand out and I had worked in Michigan for company. They built homes in four, basically for eight hundred grand in Michigan, you own everything, you see, God, you have like Windows, TED Nugent compounds he's got you ve got your own heard of Elk on campus he's nuts and that that's a one bedroom and it really is unchanged all that much sense, but you'd have to live in Michigan to ignore to enjoy it rather jet. Where you have to like ten below and years. You know there's no comparison for the cold rural brightness of San Francisco there's a tonic crap to do there and a ton of things to experience our knowledge, Eight thousand percent forty Square for permanent, but it's pretty sweet. The other a bizarre thing when the amount of health and an area becomes so concentrated than regular peep.
Just can't live their rights literally can afford to it's getting crazier and crazy, because there are so many people that have made a lot of money in technology and these their centred around that area. On the amount of wealth, the concentrated amount of wealth in San Francisco, just tech wealth is ring in a lot a lot of stuff coming up from Silicon Valley. Now in San Francisco close enough that I feel like it's the same thing, it's pretty is pre. Some are now there's even protesters blocking like the Google Bus, the Google buses that pick up all the twenty something Ivy League graduates are just be wicked. Smart, hardworking people who go to work for Google and they get your boss, with their wifi in on it. So it's perfect little limo bus and regular working class Jos partners, but with a picket sign sometimes rattling the buzzer thrown stuff at the bottom line. In this area. There really people are blaming the look on valley, tech companies for the
rising to the point where, if you just want to work like a bookstore, if that's what you're calling as you do that you can afford limit at all, people are are super mad. They can't labour, they want lived, sir. It's a strange situation. That's very strange I think I can recall any place where that's happened before that I know about. I can't think of it. I can think of it either, but to be one of these people on the boss. Announcement populace is rising up against you in burning torches and banging signs against the bus. I've got a pretty scary and all you there's working. Yet they are trying to do what you gone school for which approximates people's strange, its art its super. For the people working, these comes too late. I think because I have had the opera go do a couple things and the Google Campus with a company is to work for, and they are super hard working people super nice really Craig, and clever, I mean all of these cultures are very open and letting people pursue what they want to pursue and a date is boss. There ass, they wouldn't really hard. So it's
really like to have a good framework for Google? She loves it there. I think that what dealing with when these you see a situation like this is this insane new wealth, they either insane tech wealth. Is this industry that over the last couple of decades become so gigantic? Is the amount of money that it generates? Is Jeff freakish when you think about like self and think about any other product that you sell you might have one and this guy might have. While I say, if you make like vacuum sealer's for food, our feet, my vegetables for us, how many those you gonna sell, gay you sell cell phones, though you gonna, sell fuck catch on years, fell aliens of people on the planet who, like the amount of money you can make. If you sell cell phones, is fucking
beyond comprehension, right, well, they're they're, going one of these. I carry these. They scare the lumber barons and steal barons and the oil barons, although all those different times and has even when Peter the Vanderbilt came out and just head in crazy, lots of money- and the steel and everything else. It's exactly the same thing. It's this brand new thing that all of the world needs and its can or by a limited amount of people so that the people are smartest fuck yeah really is not a good amount appear. You know if you're gonna be controlled by the right amount of people, the right kind of people, the Google people, not bad let's say nowadays, robots now they ve got a shared European airlines there, pairing because seriously man, if other people giving killer robots first, we got a real problem. Is the Oppenheimer dilemma? Do you make the atomic bomb. Knowing it's going to kill millions of people or do you let the Russians make it first until millions of people over here or the Germans. Rather,
The same dilemma: Marguerite, make roubles, cutting out the middle managed government dislike we're, gonna, be able to protect our own fiddle, be fine. What do you think you? Google is going to start buying arms companies next on making their own they? The robotics. We bore, like we're. Gonna know a couple viewpoint in our make a robot dog, but Ireland MIKE Mike my neighbouring makes missiles when they get flag and hiring the greatest engineers of our day to build missiles for Google come over, while the kegs will put all the stuff together. In one day in, like two thousand twenty Ford Gould shows up at the Federal Reserve and goes die. That's over good how everybody get out. We run things we alone when I want a meter money anymore. If that's not incredibly mean this not consider. Is there to say it's not all that far fetched if they buy up the weapons making technology and have all the stuff there are built, influence policy could get pretty pretty significant, while also are ability to two first one
as citizens to recognize it we're going screwed over on a daily basis and also recognise that the government is invading our privacy on a daily basis. When people start recognising those kind of things and you look at that, like some so the losses been brought up against people, some of some of the people that have lost like giant chunks of their time in their life, fighting off the government, whether its front, because of taxes or because of regulations or wouldn't whatever the fuck. It is if you stopped thought about like engineering that and making it the way it is. You would never you never designed this way that the way it is so gross and the IRS can go after people that you know, if you don't pay or two They just throw you in prison they. Why are we so scared that you have to pay them their money? If you don't pay them their money, they treat you if you're a dangerous criminal. There you have it.
Take out of society and walk in Luanda, dangerous criminal to them. There there an organization accompany just like anybody else and if it gets, if the commission gets out there, that yeah there's really no repercussions for you not giving us our revenue, then their screwed people say I we're not paying you and you ve lost your income in your company goes under the meaning of everything. Now the guy who it had beanie babies who paid a billion dollars and taxes and their legs not enough words. Like we need like a billion five million. He hid some some money somewhere. He had so my smother fuckers. A billion dollars and dashes he's probably uncle all day. I have no idea how much money he has. Probably it has nothing to do nothing to do with this thing. You know like hiding money like what he targeted. Please, second made beanie babies. It's not like you know is that nuclear engineer he's crazy fuck that made something that, for some reason, made him so much money that he paid a billion dollars in taxes, but though,
but the lodge I wanna meet indeed pace. More, that's a lot of money in taxes. If eight billion dollars in taxes would be for friggin beanie beings would be good. It's ridiculous, completely ridiculous. So when good, take sovereign and Skynet, goes live, that guy get money back dissolve the Federal Reserve pay him and that's not your grew girls. The Robin Hood of ninety baby founders, maybe would ye. I mean how think it's outside the Roma possibility that our government and are not just our government but are military, is run through technology. Whether or not like years who It's gonna get real gray, whether or not like. What who has power isn't going to be countries it gonna remain. Countries is going to eventually shifting the corporations or corporate entities we talking like how much money there isn't acknowledging guy aiding things as certain in time. The technologies can reach the point where people can assent,
we do it the fuck they want these. You know, there's the ongoing question. Are the corporations actually running things now already governed, become relatively puppets sure based on whose pumping the most campaign money in etc. And now you're talking about artificial intelligence coming into the yes. Yes, yes, and I think absolutely the case of the corporations have gotten whose insanely influential place mainly powerful ability, control that the results of elections and, though the way the world works. It means really incredible, but which mostly credible, is it it's a bunch? People corporations to bunch people People are doing some things that are really for humanity can make you I closed the money for the corporation and for the cooperation you look at it from you know the artificial organism, structure of a corporation. You know how long the Coca COLA, Companies been alive longer than any human being on the planet. You know now, you ve got
whatever these and it's a lot like the means of religion or or national nationalism. The structures. The self replicating and self supporting structures have been built up and they live longer than we do so now corporations, yet while they're not people but at the same time that's a six. Swell organism right there and its fighting to stay alive and dominate how it wants dominate events, the skinny on it right. It's a thing: it's a system, it's an honor reading entity, and it is made out of here but it really likes money more than at least people, and we it's really amazing that people have created something: that's not entirely self serving and protects itself as it weird structure of one yeah, zeros and buildings and paper in its to me. It Really a borderline organism has its it as a collective organism. All of the people, working within it there's a sir. Pattern of behaviors that have led to those corporations being successful living for a hundred years or longer, and only
people who are following those patterns of behaviour, is mostly are going to be successful in their so it self perpetuating. You ve got a certain type of behaviour which is always put. The company for screw the role screw. People go out, make things profitable that works, so these but he's grow and continue to live in spawn off other companies, and it just keeps going some way to me. There is no other not living organisms. Only by a technicality of definition, that's fastening. Looking now as an author, when you see something like this, you see may perhaps like a good majority, the people of probably overlooked when you look at it like that, I mean that that's it's gotta see my almost like a work fiction, meaning if this system in and of itself the weights constructed. Now in just the idea of sending people to go, kill me but they don't even know on either side of the world are. All of us is so bizarre if, if it, exist in this form and someone, to use a script. You bill. I why the fuck, cooperation is a lie. It's a lie.
In its eating people, look how many people the corporation even gone back to the sky net concept, that science twenty five years ago, and you are now getting to the point with the globe. We know that the global nature of the internet and everything else, if you were able to get some kind of powerful online entity or artificial intelligence, that's not at all far fetched anymore. Not only can control everything, not even a low. Georgia is inevitable right. I don't but inevitable. It's definitely definitely possible. The leap from having a system that can communicate everywhere all over the world one time and then jumping to nothing that can actually make its own decisions and decide its own destiny. I think that's and I know very little about it, but that's way bigger than people- think it's not just out. We're gonna make the smart robot and it will go through make decisions. You know self determination a whole different ballgame that they have been able to tackle yet. So it is definitely
possible. I doesnt seem inevitable to me it to me. It seems inevitable. It seems inevitable just based on the exponential growth of technology, meaning that you no one calls to and to put one is three and three plus two as five when you, when you start seeing how quickly things are developing and how quickly technologies improving in enhancing you realize it like it if we were in a horror movie- and it was a horror movie about robots it eventually took over and sir raving people in eating them. It would probably start out a lot like what we are seeing on. The news would have a quick flashes of like a new robot technology and six months later, Sony releases another one and then five months after that they create some sort of an artificial brain sell that actually works better than a real brain, so they start inserted, go into people's bodies and then each cut too. Fifty years later, a pocket
dick nightmare scenario. Robots eating cinder blocks, running down fighting the last vestiges of humanity hiding under sewer pipes. You know about, I hope this endeavour does come out of that. There still you know, people are we good at doing labour and figure things out and they also breed and make more copies themselves. So, if you're, a robot, artificial intelligence, killing the peoples a complete and utter waste of time. Why would you do that here? Is this relatively free labour pool makes more copies of itself and continues to do what you want, which goes back. The concept of Coke, their Coca COLA, Brander, IBM or british companies that are five and six hundred years old. You know that Lord of already happening. There are so determined human beings who are serving the greater purpose of the overlord organization, so yeah Artificial intelligence could easily be like that. So I'm hoping that when we taken over so just want to give a job and the ones we happy workers. I think you'll find a so inefficient stupid one. It is
I mean, if you think they illustrate ass. The same way we treat chimps shut the fuck up and I think if they use it all the have like a show that amuses them all they have done your actual real people, this last of the real people we keep them in his cage, make them fuck. Treat them like killer whales. There's a reason: here's a museum to show you the way things once worked a long time ago. People needed food, ha ha of body will laugh It's hilarious, nothing, natural people, just ridiculous. The idea of a natural person equities become redundant, and this is a problem. On science fiction all the time- and I have it in some of my books too, which is once you get your artificial race or artificial intelligence, deploy workin reproduce on its own when role I can make other versions of itself That's when were no longer necessary when something can bring to make copies of itself and I'm not necessary talking a big factory crank things out, although that works when robots can,
physically, basically make baby robots that harvest energy and resources from the environment and get bigger and become an adult and fully functional and capable of carrying on work, then we're screwed there, No need for us anymore. Does competition at that point since they figure out how to make better robots. Are you guys mean fuck and terrible design with solicited fix it I mean, I wonder if we arrogant thinking that are our special abilities as people, whether it's our emotions, our creativity or whatever their actually really special and that their not radical but would have robots like Dumb it so easy to make something like you. They do not even that complex together based on legs really pretty obvious emotions, very predictable behaviour patterns under stress liking, guys a fuckin simple, like you'd, like to think of super complicated because makes you happy well as all the stuff we ve always thought was complicated possible. Now we do all the time and yes, somebody at some point could cracked the chemical code of our behavior? Mitchell over this little bit of that both next thing, you know he's crack this robot
crying because he got his heart broken at the problem and then both blade runner YAP later on, than those scenes with Rucker how worker Howard dying and it does when a Kill Harrison Ford, but he was thinking about but he would he loves and respects life. So Marcy does wines are ultimately not killing them. That's a fuckin! powerful movie man and not far off from what would actually happen if you something in your engineered emotions into an. If you didn't, then what you got fuckin city fell with robots cycles that have no emotions. You would want to engineer. Are the same flaws that people have you wanted to create artificial people would, in fact, if you did that wouldn t be a person when they be subject jealousy import decision making in this everything outside of drugs because they would be robotic, I'm sure they. Have their own robotic drugs of some kind in various viruses. Reprogramming anything you want, but did not appoint barrier batteries at some point. It well when they put their tongues of a better. It's a whole different experience. Example,
It would become indiscernible. You couldn't tell the difference, gosh and pray but there's that TAT something test where you put a blindfold I put a blind between people and if you can't tell the person, on the other hand, that computer is a robot or a person, as a human being, you can't tell my talking a robot. Am I talking a human being taxed, swarm intact, worn voice or tax foreign wars like this? Is, if you get to that point, that's one of the definitions of we have gotten closer achieved, artificial intelligence for you as a human, can't tell the difference. That's when you really close to that, and emotions would be a big part of that in the movie. It'll show people talking into their phones asking SIRI questions googling things, while their driving solution those are the things they willingly accepted. Robot fold we're let him in We have no motion now we're completely symbiotic now completely leave you found it home. It's like you, ll have to deck behind, get like what
Why do now do not leave home without my dick going back for the good keep my phone screwed on and with before long they gonna come up, some solution, it runs on your own bodies, energy, no longer needing to charge itself in the wall It always get it surgically removes like hey honey. I can always get it socially removed next thing. You know yet some robot patch on your arm that you're done killing and it goes straight into your ear. Cometh with death, Come on implants are the next. That's the next big wave of of all of these things in your own all the time, but we have little usb ports on our farms. Stick it in their wireless man. Everything we wireless operator will popular either contact lenses or inserts below the Iris. I would suggest you see everything eternally wifi off people going to hack you, yet you don't want wireless is not good at the Vienna summit Mason have to hard work. We need ports when it made
export. Would you lazy deadline? You want you want the matrix for everybody else. He would like man. I gotta reach this from here to there and plug it in screw that is going on. I was option to really think to people that leasing our guardians secular. When you see how doubly lazy there's plenty of people there plug. There had said in that. I think gradually more. Who would totally guy people were a lazy lazy bunch as a species, but did they got to the point where they are willing to like plug something into their heads gonna? Let them do you know any browser over the internet. I can find like the remote control have to get up and change the channel, or something like that are these you, but I think, is more is less people in that less people that's more like see like this is seditious. Talk your having now you're one of the people wants to plug in you. Don't want a wireless. There can be what Google will be watching. You, sir, and I don't mind the wireless look. Ultimately, its are gonna, be its. Can the bead public testified
You know like Tesla, wanted to have electricity in the atmosphere we wanted and broadcast, like Trysdale Westinghouse found out what he's trying to do like it, the fuck out of here, and they shut his pro. I'm down his deal was too widely transmit electricity. The same way, people why're, you know they transmit radio way. Sir transmit WI, FI sick right We're gonna wirelessly have electricity fuckin floating around us in some strange. Why don't I mean I don't even understand the technology bided, but I assume that if it was Nikola Tesla test came up within this- was legit stuff. It's never been Deb well, he he wanted to give it away with the other Frank and that's you know the corporations going back to that, the Self defence mechanism of the corporations kicks in yeah if there's a resource that is being given away for free any corporation. Providing that resource is, danger of being diminished or being destroyed, so the natural reaction of the group mind of the people in the companies. We got a shot that shit down right now. This is some hours Jones Talk, then. Will you done
now you're going we have before us. We have. We seen it with their the Edison company in their reaction to the two Tesla and trying to find ways to stop this technology from coming out. Because of the technology comes out, they no longer have that giant cash cow and that's that's worth fighting for what was the downside? Was there any downside proposed downside to projecting electricity in the air? Germany- and I dont know that much about it, I'm not sure that he had prevented and large scale like. Can it really transfer over long distances and still be economically viable and then.
It's just. The general shock of people seeing bolts of lightning flashing across the countryside are not very comforted by it notes exactly the same thing happening. You just can't see exits and a wire is how it would be, would see the electricity, I'm pretty sure. That's that's what it was. It was just blasting things through the air was deprived, get refilled like lightning bolt hits your house every time. You need more electricity scary. What about heard? What? If a fuckin bird was fine by right? When you hit the powers which had happened, they would burn me just exploding all through the sky. All throughout cities, birds, birds, are the collateral damage of the power industry they're getting killed. I windmills right now so, but could you imagine if people are just turning on their lights, which is in birds just explode in the sky? His pulse of electricity would come out to your house and connecting to the tree in other big metal
lightning tree some poor berbeus be in that had it only tough eleven for the birds walking down the street birds exploding over your head. Birds were just start walking and they become one of us like a dog or give up underlying. They would eventually reach a good point. There would eventually realised, through evolution, the robots come up with the birds and then we're really screwed. So don't like AL butterfly develops that fake. I bonds wings, Jamaica, parentless, bitch, I'm looking at you and I really like they're they're, stupid game of butterflies, yet nature develop tat those they became good for that designed to exist in out, but a bizarre thing that has to stop and think about. It who have you explain that just did, eyeballs in their wings? They just happen layers most precious, theirs, mutation where they have a pattern on their wing that makes them that reacts with predator. The predator looks at it goes that looks like something: I've Eden that tastes horrible or that looks like
thing beggar the mean it's dangerous and then that that butterfly continues on and it happens again and again and again, that's the scientific explanation, but I There's something nefarious foot I think something is afoot, something mysterious I don't trust them, fuckin butterflies. I don't trust to somebody made eyeballs on their wings. I just I have a hard time believing that we just some sort of a random once more disturbing as the caterpillar thy balls on its, but it like listen up and it's got to big eyes on their unlike butts. Looking back at me, I'm not buying it, no find ones that have eyeballs. Is there some incredible ones where they they look? Like legalistic cats eyes? That's that's! So we
it's so weird and it seems like someone's troll on us using more evidence that the world is made at a magic somehow another some insect is able to develop. These camouflage eyeballs on its wings that are just faint robots, already took over we're already experiment. Now they're like we got we're going to keep given of something and sooner or later, to figure this out, eyeballs like they gotta figured out now I gotta know it. We just make both world so preposterous that everybody to stop singles. We know what the fuck is going on and then tat. The music starts playing the curtain draws the aliens come out lab where we didn't think. I was going to take you this long regarded as you go. There's no people were legally there's the allies. All that's near guys. We're all in the matrix I've never seen that wonderful way around May tracks. Look at those high
the first reaction. I like him, that's gotta, be Photoshop. That's from rose a whole series of em, there's a bunch of different kinds of moss or butterflies, rather develop these eyeballs on on the back of their wings. So and I just love the brandy. Yeah amazing, like a cat. Cats. I just looks like a tiger shootings that looks like a baby tiger, hiding in the woods Ready Jack. You super step birdie. Yeah don't beat me, I'm a fucking tiger. Friggin amazing, incredible I mean look at, has eyeballs look in the eye it looks like like if you have that attitude on. You knows, and I believe that artists is good. That's a good look at that! Get the fuck out of here just get the fuck out of here. It's a cartoon fairy totally. Weird and that's real down by that I mean I know, that's the answer. I know science would tell you that the answer, but you didn't see happen through
there is no there's. No actual documentation is particularly this romantic in the world. My friend as an author, I'm sure you must agree with me, maybe create fantastic works of fiction. Read the entire worlds. In your own mind why you get into it. You know that Phoenician, a magic can be so broad and the man that any What being alive at this particular moment is such an astronaut the odds against you being here and living this long. So astronomical? You can't even calculate of speculative here. You are, if we're just here a couple hundred years ago, yet in in the fact we really only come into our modern day culture in the past two centuries or so so there, lot of things. I look at as an author are just staggering and even looking at something like the butterflies ghost, First reactions, always what can I do with that Can I work that into historic? Is that's real and that's cool? We can do something with it, but he added there's a lot of things, I look at in even having a decent knowledge of science and evolution and those things you look at it go. How up
That is why, the times I find myself arguing myself like now not the one that gets me is like the crabs that put crap on their shall ever seen these things they put crap on this Daddy's crabs will grab whatever happens to be around them and then use There is alive and glue it to their claws. Like a boxer, crap it'll, glue anatomy which are deadly to it onto its claws. Their predator comes up there like they put up their dukes, they put up to and enemies the cup boxer cravat guys want, show this wine wards off predators you can see that anything with that behaviour of course has a survival advantage. That makes sense, but at what point to some crazy crab ETA, add piece of fish and get so high that it's like alarm cut disappear and put this summer clause and waving around for a little while I see stuff like that. That's one that always throw me for a loop like how did that first actually happen that an end
you know when I talk to my science consultants, they break it down the finer finer details. What you say mix perfect sense. Lamp, however, he's got frequency and enemies on his claws. Buying a big gentlemanly look at this. They taught him how to do that part of time line grabbed that's of live and enemy on his claws, and anybody. Screws of them is gonna, get a mouthful of new medicines that adds up to raising the oath in itself miles being a alien world, I mean really might as well be on another planet, just stopping Oh, that's one thing that I really want to talk about what the ocean this is crazy can thing, and I just discovered you know, see shepherd. You know that those companies go out and fight those whalers they caught. Japanese wailing, ship and the japanese wailing ship they have is really sneaky thing they're doing where you are allowed to under some provision, some mutilated agreement you're alive Two whale hunt,
take a whale, is its risk. Civic research, so they, in some weird loophole for scientific research. So what these as do as they go on. They slaughter these whales and then they say it through scientific research and they just sell the meat like their wailing, we're just killing these Wales, but the way they're doing it is under this weird. Poland, the losses, are selling some part of the whale maybe for science and and selling nourishes sign in the meat for food hotter selling. It is, I mean, there's lead their selling commercially, but You can see the the photos. You see the the image Brian. If you gotta like see Shepherd one of the more recent stories about eager they have. They took, they got a helicopter and they flew over the boat and took photos. Are these dead whales areas to sitting yeah. It's dark ban its. Really dark
and if you look as they pull back and they show you there's a website address and if you go to that website addresses an english version and an american and japanese version, but the year that the image, deserve a pretty shocking. If you go and look at it online even have video of them slaughtering. One of the whales, but to me when I look at that that to me, is just like us going to another planet and killing some alien being. We would never stand for that. If we showed up on Mars and Mars had whales are we to start cutting whales and using it for scientific research? People would go fuck and crazy, like what are you doing? We found this intelligent life form the communicates. It has a voice, it has language it has. They have some sort of a weird differentiation between different sections of the world than they have different accents. Yet at the same time. If there is a resource there that we need, or someone can make money from and the propaganda machine kicks in and
find the salient intelligence. And then your president is on the radio saying this is significant danger to the human race, and we have to act right now because do all of these horrible things we watch on our planet, dozen times in our lifetime. We're somebody comes out of the propaganda machine and we're so manipulable that bill, I go well, we don't bomb them first they're going to bomb us. We scared people, get scared especially when they have kids, they actively a real scared. How could bomb on their dangerous out there, the Martians have weapons of mass destruction. We take the images out, but imagine if we went to Mars, we found some intelligent life forms, a communicate with language, and we decided studying. Imagine the protests, imagine how bad people would freak out. We don't have any problem. The whale you where I was pretty much aren't hurt anybody. We established that there are many out so not already anybody and smart. We know that we know those two things for sure, but you know what the thing nature. So evil herself, like nature, sets whale
makes us a whales can defend themselves against killer whales. You know that's why they I'm killer Wes lot of folks, don't know that they kill whales, they're, not whales and dolphins, but they kill whales there. The other videos of them killing whales are far crag man, crazy, isn't it doesnt? Don't do it quick to start eating this June off. The one I said when I was a little kid of National Geographic and This time, anybody ever documented and Orca pact taking out a whale, could have been a camera. What kind of whale was grey, Weller, Sperm whale and they litter Lee chew on it until it. Brings its mouth like in pain, and then one swims inside the mild and start non down the tongue- oh God go down and as far as they could tell like, that's the good stuff but they actually want is the tongue case, the best so summit gets to go in there and start June on the tongue, and then they just they just kill it it's hard to take their side. That's a country.
It's hard to take the killer? Whales, autoimmune light to take their side, but the way they treat Wales is fucked in any realize Well, you know, that's just nature Nature is just like that. There's gonna, be it's gonna, be horrific crimes. That's what nature is all about: nature, natures and endless fight for survival and if you aren't killing than you're gonna get killed and he had You have no way of recognising the culture. If you have no way of objectively assessing your your situation of you stuck in a world where you need constant move even to breathe cancelling mean there, Colonel out of Body mass need to get fish needs, they need to feed, all the times that constantly in movement they don't ivory. Some reflection, didn't have a couch within kick back with their pipe and watch masterpiece, theater and powder and write poetry and then their poetry can be read by others, and if we
existed in a world like that. We were just fly around the three dimensional space. I dont think we'd be very much different than darwins. Well, we weren't and it's it's the development of agriculture and in society and in cities, and getting that sir, do that comes in and with a large number of people working together. That's the only thing. That's allowed us to do those things as well. You go back forty fifty thousand years, thus- and it was There- was no different- will kill anything moves. Killing eat anything that moves, and if you don't do something's gonna kill you and it was only the development of society that allowed people start writing, poetry and making our doing all those other thing you have to do, men of a place. We could hang out and I get eaten debt and where you had food put stockpiled like ok, I got all that covered wall. I got a gun, I got. A stake became good another new next week. Mixing now you drinking wine writing things. People read that shit go, do not thought that do what I've never put into words. The whole culture expands from their there. That's never
happen with dolphins. They gotta keep moving ever gonna learn. Often I don't think there are very much different than us. No that's a very hippy thing to say, but I had a experience once on a boat with dolphins, playing wild orphans in Hawaii change me for I've changed me for life. In their eyes. Experiment experiencing, like laugh what dam and yelling at them and then doing tricks? For you mean it was what they were with us for over an hour, and I was God, damn it was high school. I was so high devilish. I've been on a border that, but there I was in when you're that how you very vulnerable and very sensitive and very, very introspective, and almost painfully so sometimes so me- looking in the eyes of the dolphin. Had me absolutely convinced us watch these things play that I'm proud being extremely prejudice and how highly I value human, whom cognition and our ability to change our environment being the ultimate measure of intelligence. Why they do not they couldn't
major environment. They have absolutely no need to exactly adapted to their environment, their perfect. We don't have to worry about sharks enough to worry about shit. All you have to worry about. Is those Conti killer and then the Wells Edam, that's interesting about dolphins, there, one of the few species on the planet that kill for fund, because I got so much brain power there, like. I was gonna, go kill that double kill other dolphins, though shark. Infanticide, if you know there are baby dolphins that are produced by them, they'll kill him. Dolphins, rape, which is messed up. One species that goes out rate so with big, means comes big problems. I guess species kind of raped. I dont know I don't know really? Now? It's not it's not a very common. It's not a very common! Thank you. What's yours about the perfect right leg, Marietta's dolphins, there, the using high, would prefer Fisher but, like
Amsterdam to rape, the chimps due to a failure, and what about cats can't because the female cats are too bad ass, that's a dangerous move. I dont think you want to go there. I thought that you get cut up, he's a fucking hurt you, you register at a rate of a lion in in pack, animals you'll get drunk driving out the alpha male of the pack, and there is a new new guys, the affirmation he gets, the spoils of war so to speak. But I think, there's an enormous amount of straight up rape in the animal kingdom outside the hype, more intelligent animal. Well, it's also there's power, but we know social stigma, fucking and probably the female tigers. We have sex as well as much of a need to fuck or to our rape. Each other does not make sense. I give if wild animals this is just became real Raby, like I have just read it through in every new thing you in guinea. Workday could be. You know, speaking on my ass here, but the dominant could be part of that free time. Thank you. There's our whole shows us. They dont have exerted six episodes knows
begin predators other than humans? They don't really they're, not even really all that afraid of sharks and they don't have to worry about their environment, the perfectly adapted and they are smart. So they got time to think about stuff. Like you know, look at the dorsal fin net girl, united. Maybe they think too much welded. Killer whales, don't give a fuck if they think they'll Edam get the girl, neat and off another. They kill everything. Now they are the best. They don't ere. They know their small and light. So what they're so you're smart to argue, so you not a fish. Also you breathe there. Like everything, smart presented kills merely jutting. Nothing. Smart figured out, gills Now it's all millions. It's all marine mammals resilience. Is there some people who think that the act? Bosnia words are really wicked smart, like in being able to be to users and figure out puzzles significantly, but that's the only a quota, chronic breathing.
Animal that I can think of here's a problem with that argument. They don't have any houses negative by fish. That's ridiculous! That the market is there. Not that's markets will not open ajar. Would look like a teacher dogged, open jar giving personally behind you in your home free that is not hard a three year old girl, but a fucking? The jar that so stupid think that their for intelligent they. They have also communicate with their scan, which I find it incredibly fast amazing to lash nuts day the vision, or communication. They they they used to think at one time. It was just camouflage that there were just today in environment, which they also capable of death, They also somehow another communicate with each other by their skin. By the way they look man, they think that their Squid ink may be admired serve who purposes it. May one try to ward off predators in some way and create confusion and allowed to escape, but also might be like a razor fluid like free.
What I just said that our water wiped out yeah there's some interesting like work done on Octopus and octopi communicate the Arab ever seen, videos of cut fish hunting, but using the patterns in their body antis their prey her, but I I've got a book called Earth core fiction. And the whole race in that book? based on the cuttlefish. So all- their communication is almost non. There's almost no verbal, it's all visual and the pattern changing understand, which is how they talk to each other in how they punish pack pray. Sorry suite is pretty sweet that so I wonder how wolves communicate like when WAR deciding to sneak up on somebody like if they do something like if they have a situation like wolves like they'll corner an animal like they'll have likes. Was what some go. This way, others will wait form on the other hand, like they somehow another communicate with each other. Well, don't you leave the that's? That's probably of all this
We did this and it worked zoom and they are. They are smarter shit and they are capable of remembering. Can you got. Do you guys got the rounder all make sure they don't blank out? They don't flank out to the side. Here's the is pushing, and then these things have cascading color on their body. What do you think they do it with, though I mean? Are they doing it with us? When there was a dual with smells? Are using pheromones like how are they communicate they from what I know about it there? Actually they teach them. The poppies in the young ones, how to do it like teaching them a gear, gonna go here or they will follow the adult and they it's a learned skill. It's just like a pack of humans hunting and they decisions are day day. Their brought up like your role. Is this and then is become more dominant, the pact. They change their role in the hunting pact. You seen I'm sure you ve seen the video, the chimpanzees organizing an armed party to go after me.
These figures here so crazy. It's it's one of the weirdest videos and it was one of the first instances where there are completely shore. The chimpanzees were not just vegetarians where they knew that and were not just carnivorous, but they were eating primates any why these Brian. We will show their video ethics. I think so. Wouldn't show the videos a chimpanzee eating a monkey causes it it's fucked. I swear it. Team up been missing for everything yeah, so they they have all these. Monkeys in the trees and what they do is they send chimps after them to chase and they start you know swinging on the trees and then on the other end, they have chimps waiting as the monk he's trying to escape so they ve hurt. Them into this area where these are dominant, chimps will be waiting and the church swell attack the monkeys in the trees, but they the corner them entrapped them. They have. They get him on the size and again in the front, and they corral
Emma to an area where other chimps are waiting and then the ground, but they they figure that out like. How did they organised that they talk about it, how they know? How do I know? There's gonna be people on the other end or chimps, and the other end waiting when I chases monkeys down pretty advance that super advanced, they ve somehow another figure out a way to talk to each other and say
Look man, I want you to monkey goes. We need some organs offences that we do it. They hide in the trees we gotta do is chastened down there and MIKE and Bob you guys was tone. Of course, Jason. This way, Tommy at the ends is gonna gather, I'm all our boy. That's that's a killer question. How do they communicate that? That would take people like if a bunch of random people are stranded on a desert island and how to figure out how to hunt it would take them until they are on the brink of starvation till they figured that out their Billy Woods go try to get some food and it, but it was a long fuckin time really virus strategy. The trippy thought with that to me is not knowing how long they ve been exhibiting. This behaviour, that's exactly how they catch monkeys and arranging tangs chimpanzee. So was somebody watching the humans. Do this and go fetch? It works great. I don't think so, but it might because it's not like. We have a lot of evidence of them telling chimpanzees before they might literally a develop that from watching how we do it to them, which is that's crazy. Most likely, though, that they just smartness figures and get that video yeah you told me that that's the video that every time we play that they yank us off Youtube, though, are really
we could show great ape and a monkey. Who is the language of you to just for that year? That was it a BBC one Fuckin BBC? If the internet bitch in every onawandah, never gonna be the earth, but they mean to They treat monkeys and the way we treat whales the way we treat killer whales. It really is a perplexing question like what will the next thing. How will that treat us if there is an official artificial intelligence super genius, robot that become some sort of synthetic organic thing, there's an almost indistinguishable from humans, but infinitely smarter. How deal with us? You know, is a good deal with us. The way we deal with the Champs or the way the chimps do. What the monkeys are. The way we deal with dolphins or the way the killer whales deal with dolphins, housing the deal with it, not setting a very good precedent they have. Why would you want to keep us around and make us be lazy, shitty, unproductive workers that are really angry, that a robber
overlords have taken over or there's just the basic problem of work were too smart. Where would you want to keep some if if we had monkeys in the Euro area and they walked round with which blades and guns and renown and would start killing people be like we gotta get rid of those monkeys, and you know it is a funny conversation because whenever you have this conversation about artificial intelligence, you gonna get a lot of naysayers and a lot of people that claim that they know what's gonna happen like listen. That's not going happen. We would never allow it. We would never engineer that we would never I gotcha I gotcha, however, in my view, magneto that guy would never allow decked out an average near there, always somebody out there who is just therefore, the money or like kind. I wonder if I can do that. Yeah, that's the driving force behind discoveries. I wonder if I can make that happen, and this insatiable need to push technology just insatiable to derive that people have to to continue to innovate is spectacular.
David some new goddamn hundred tenants tv, forty four k, Michael Bay, I would have with that Michael babies you like, and he was doing a presentation, the prompter fail and locked up there Is he he couldn't? Even just wings like he could eat like all you have to do, is talk about what he does as a director like I make movies and he tried to do it, but then he stopped and then that the guy, you know you want me to start by these new tvs in these curve tvs and he could just a year they look beautiful or something, but instead he starts mumbling and then just what goes. Excuse me and walks a hostage say bombed. Yet he got panicky and happens. Has the best of us What? If I don't want to further creamy, that's good to say as late as like, watching a really bad comedian right before you go and stays someone's up there just bombing, and then you have to. What stage you don't think anything could be funny dangerous warrior. Have you sniff of his craziness, some guys like, five, you might think that that might like and do your head like a single cell and start dividing like a little via
Ok, mental virus married that can take your performance down more like we know, but I don't like the feeling I don't like watching like I don't like watching people bomb and it's it feels gross. I know what it feels like. I got to get out of there now that it's very hard to go on after this is why I think it's it might actually be affecting people is also why I think people enjoy inspiration I think when you, when you see someone who's, really bad. You really don't think that anything good you think like this is life is life is a really terrible. Life is terrible, comedy someone's bombing onstage and on the opposite, when you see something really spectacular, raise your standards for things. You accomplish things you could it be excited to see if it rains you're standards. If you go to sea avatar say some spectacular movies, you leave
you would think, would be the embers of that. I want to follow the guy who bond unified phone it in I'm going to do well, and I dont want to follow. Avatar is spectacular and I'm gonna look bore her with some. People do have that that mindset. Some people have this really ultra competitive mindset and they like a lot of comics like to bring to we'll comedians with them on the road they bring guys who just really shouldn't be going on stage in the comic is like really pretty good so of be like this death show for twenty minutes, and then the comic comes in like a hero and thereby super excited SAM. I've seen it happen on numerous occasions, but that's famine, mentality. That fact mentality that there's not enough for everybody, that the famine mentality, that you know you have to get all the accolades and any by this threatening whatsoever. To your you know, your talent to your abilities should be just minimal eyes to you now that it's a dangerous mine said to have in especially in the world
many now? But I think if you instead choose to be inspired by good performances, then everything comes inspirational. It's not like everything's competitive, instead of it being competitive. You get all this, juice that you get the competitive aspect of it, but you get in positive form instead, you're inspired and happy for people success heavy for great movies, happy for great music happy for great comedy when you see great inspired by them so everywhere around ye, see inspiration. Dead of everywhere around you, you seeing com, to and people doing the new something that diminishes you're right, your idea of who you are as a person, because you don't measure up on paper to Michael Bay or this Cairo that instead of that the opposite, Stan you know the mentality is your constantly being inspired says it's a matter of engineering, your thought, solar. I think I've got significant. I've had its better now
had significant issues with other authors. The people started same Tommy. I did roughly and have similar similar. Career arcs moving up, and then they just catch lightning by the tail for something in the next thing you know their huge and, unlike, were basically working either. Everybody's workin, the fingers of the bomb like every other profession, anybody succeeds, anywheres, probably working there ass off and then just watch on block any like? That's that's difficult, overcoming like I got all the goodies deck. I got there first and just curious for you, and it's like you say it's a lot. A lot of it has been adjusting the perspective. You have to step back and say I'm still doing really well and are making a lot of people really happy with my stories of my books, and I can now aspire to get to level swiped write, something better and market better and connect better and finally get that out
Why things? Sometimes it's just a matter of people finding out about it? It's really that simple, like the product is there for a long time, but there's so much product. You walk into a barn noble star roaming through the fiction section behind much authors, you dont know when you read the back of the book, a few recommendations that you proud respects it I'll fuck I'll, take a chance, but for them sport there The choices are endless and new books are coming out. Constantly it's difficult to get seems difficult to get discovered and at that exposures the biggest thing enable hearing about what you do and then maybe hearing two or three times for their families like does my second time in a show. In the first time, we got a on of new readers paper. Like other guy, sounds pretty cool me check out his books and we ve got all these fans now now second time. Maybe you get more and in all That effort the next books outs called pandemic. It's out January, twenty first in just trying to get me. Exposed to it so that
I can say that sounds like my cup of tea or yeah. Don't think I'd be interested in that that's the real game. It's not guinea! people the reader, forcing people to read it. It's just a matter of nobody's ever heard of me: they don't get the option make a decision. If my stuff is is in the rally or not does not get in the way at all of the creative process view. Is it like an unwanted annoyance, like this extra thing, trying to promote and trying to figure out how to promote and then would it be your for you. If you could get past and yet it is like Stephen King Point, where I have to do just right. You sure you know anybody getting the Andrei Stephen King Dean Koontz. You know any of those levels where they just flat out. You don't have to worry body more stated, King give a crap about marketing. Is that's all going to taking care of former me he's earned. That means totally fine. So we do yeah, we eyes, put lot of time in a marketing and trying different things to to get the word out, all of that area.
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It's beautiful, beautiful, read on their computer, they re on their their tablet under Kendall, etc. All of these are the kind of things that and it's not like. You know that Stephen Kings and Joe Hell's don't still do or their people do, that marketing stuff for them. We have to do things like that to be like just like I know. If you read my shit, I'm gonna only it's just that simple pull up Mark Kerr our curves only and I may find that really looks like that they actually a fascinating documentary on marker that no added smashing machines called smashing machine is fuckin dark, its deep goes mark was like super super open with them and night, while He was filming stock manner. They were doing this documentary on this unstoppable Emma fighter in the sky was wrestler whose destroying people is built. Fuckin superhero super athlete taken people down smash. Now, that's when his fat, you gotta, get ya get em when he's young marker huge, just fine,
define an image of him when he was just unbelievably huge. So anyway, this documentary they start doing this documentary and along the lines the exposed his drug use and he's open when he shoots up right in front of these people and their nay. They capture this guy completely. Spiralling out of control. They just come into the right moment as a feminist documentary and care. Guys I want the best fighters in the world completely spiralling camera shooting up. Yet, picture of him when he was in his prime theirs, you know, there's some photos of him like fighting in the USA that SAM wholly can't get it doesn't work Look at the size that mother Fucker then but that was that was when they were caught in the smashing machine. He was two hundred and sixty five pounds of american muscle in mexican supplements some matching people, but along the way, developed an addiction to believe those opiates. They wish shooting up. Look out
fuck in big. He was told I use shitting me and did he just gonna take himself? Are he get beat and go down? The sorry go and I certainly be you know what he was doing drugs and I was having a real drug problem and whose fighting while he was addicted to drugs. Ok, then, either eventually when became a car salesman, but the needs an important documentary. It's important. Not just from the point of view of someone who one is having a serious problem with drugs, but it also steroids Vienna, music, absolutely on massive amounts steroids. He was also fighting in May, which is the thing traumatic brain injuries and punches in kicks you take some time. The cumulative damage can read. Leave these guys to be like really depressed and suicide on crazy. If they sustained too much damage. Then I really careful don't give themselves enough time to recover right. I can get really depressed so here this guy
In short, they had all the time taken, morphine or heroin or whatever foggy staging you now and they caught him in this document perfect timing right when it all far apart. They came in thinking. He was about mother fucker on earth and they laughed with this really in depth. Peace whose life is being absorbed by drugs. Drugs just stealing is life just taking a little pieces the ecological out you wanna, fighting later in his career, like no steroids, no dress, a completely different body. Looked at your guy just stepped out of a bar. We have really strain How do you do at the end of these new terrible airline destroyed, jeez poor picture marker fat on alone, I like the guy, I'm not teasing. I mean this is just the the reality of whom he was at the end right blogger. Does we looked at the end, the difference yeah before After this it was incredible,
I got some fight. A couple times live when he was in that state and I saw him fight live when he was the destroyer, and I was talking really shocking stuff, but you know that world shocking it's a crazy world If your do, you think, eventually you're gonna get to the point where cause you guys are losing their three their last for the last three years and then when they retire, isn't gonna get your point where oh, yes, he's gonna Stepanida like yeah, we're just gonna, go and make a decision for you all. They certainly have they ve done, and many fighters yeah yeah, they retired. Quite a few fireside. Chocolate, though, is the most obvious example right. Because he was like one of the great Champions ever Indiana him, a very good friends and at the end of checks, career shall gas for one more fight, wonderful retract, Linley lost that fight and is like that's it we're good set. I gotta stop away, so he realized it was time the Arnold
Darnel Sixty thousand, doesn't look like that now. The also is training further Conan moving doing can count in. Finally, yes got gonna us right, you're Robert, he our family. We talk about robbery, Howard last time when I don't. I don't think so, but that that that my goal. Never of watching the first two Conan movies, never read Sonya backing down like I want to write King Coney never got to the point where I could talk to anybody. Have any contact like that movies gotta get makes perfect. Now is the perfect age for it. It could be spectacular. Yeah Folkestone know that Robert Howard made Conan in many different areas. It wasn't just a young virile, powerful Conan. He also made in Conan, when Conan was the king of scenarios, is I think so we ve got when he was a scenario but also use a king of that. I think he took over some new place. I don't know remember. Yet there are great fucking looks out those those books, sort of in my mind, like kind of defined my childhood, when I really got fast fast
with fantasy and that kind of shit it was. It was the robbery Howard books, crawl, goes all the conqueror conquer Cyclops and Emily Movie was just a shit version of the books. Really your books, it, the other move, is fine but his pride dated now. If you pray what's it now, I hate it yeah, I don't. I don't go back and watch movies movies, decipher whose I loved- and I was a kid- the exception black predator, an alien just, don't watchmen care ruins You really can't, but Robert Howard created some amazing Conan books. That never really have been captured correctly. They try did a little bit better with the new Conan. The new guy area, like I think the new guy is first of all, my yeah yeah way more realistic way more, like the actual Coney Island, he's an enormous guy he's, not billion bodybuilder he's, but go to them.
Who Conan guy Jason Moma, whose about amendment you see too very nice guy he's falcon huge fitness that it is a six foot. Six justice perfect specimen of manhood he's never gonna make it out alive. He's gonna so much that he's gonna die this there's no way we can avoid it. If I was, you hear, lie Jason Mamma. He found himself the downfall of the death sentence with this action is a beautiful man and he's a movie star, there's no way he doesn't have, there's no way he gets it to get a look at that get the fuck outta fuck out of here come on. I did Why would anyone any wash no exact didn't want the old one to be added them to sell the original coatings, I'm giant Van. They only sullied it in like half the movie, you could just cut out half the movie and have them, and we have no ending and like it was a good effort, was a good attempt. I think ultimately what Conan needs and deserves is that guy is the perfect. And he's a good actor. He looks like a savage keep keep him as opponents
get a real writer who is a real fucking, crazy person who can come up with something bad ass and follow the robbery Howard script follow? What I didn't do it through the eyes of like a real visionary, get a real James Cameron, type dude or album scores. Easy does. Conan, haven't you you have a movie words, really dark fantasy, movie that plays out like a real film instead of place, Alex some bullshit comic. That's always the thing: that's confused, wrap enemy. The marble the crappy Marvel movies are made. When I was a kid like why The old Spiderman tv show when I was a little like like when is it going to fight a super veil? And I don't give a shit if you stop and bank robbers and it wasn't, it never made any sense to me that, like comic books, how these stories that are massively popular? Why don't you just tell that story? Why do you think have to reinvent everything and the cone to be a similar thing like this already entertained a large percentage of the plan at one time it's not die.
Because there's no, we know nineteenth century technology and tell the same friggin story yet story and now, with the new technology, the fuckin monsters sane. Did you see the habit nineteen out of young man dragon is worth seeing. The whole movie just see that dragon. That reminds me that I want to see what I haven't seen it, but one of the funniest things errors. When news reporters have to talk about that move because that that smog, sounder always goes out of next distillation of MEG innovation happens. I wanted to say that, since the last speaker monsters, cows were closing in on the option for nocturnal one of my books. That's gonna be done by Lloyd Levin, as a tv show he's the outline. How boy now boy too fuckin do knows noses miserly like nobody's illness amazingly regulations donkey, but this because of your show. We had wanted to listen whose name is Nikki mine too much turn modernization
very nice yet making matters out she would for one day, Lucy Stealer, whose an agent at the paradigm agency in New York sounds on your show, Mickey heard it and said, that nocturnal sounds really cool? reads it and then just goes to her boss and says. I think this is significant. You need to read at her boss reads it Lucy Radio Contact, my prince agent. We were done with our current feel maiden. At the time we worked either five years great guy, but we re making happens or time change something. So we Lucy Lucy takes over an hour almost not only almost closed a nocturnal, but then the guys The people who make justified and alimentary are closing
not confer the infected series unwittingly endemic is the last book. That's incredible! This Ladys kick his ass and it came because Nicky listening to your, shall that's incredible cut to three years from now, Scots on Coke laid his mansion underwear, doing new spread so near remake with slight Miley Cyrus. Yes, smashing Shanahan bottle on the ground, because there's nothing left my fine drank. So just quick. Thank you out to make you she's. Listen, don't ask is just just one person listening to a running up. The tree is change a lot of things for us. Well, that's all it takes rain mean, like I said, your product is amazing. I've got nothing but positive responses from people that read your book after that you came on the progress of these people need to find out but it's now they will get there I'm crazy man. While we get you know it and of course either one of the tv shows could not happen, which is how things are in Hollywood, but if you get super Reggie gonna buy a bower spot in San Francisco.
Well a whole block. I don't know about San Francisco, but if you get super rich, you could buy basically on small country in Michigan and call it Detroit, because it's already name you can buy the whole thing, but again, you'd have to be in Detroit legal as hell all their castles built in the mills have to be pretty sweet deal. I give her ministerial meetings place, no main. No, when I use Work in Maine Meister stand up a boost to do a gig in Bangalore, and you couldn't go to Bangalore without Drive by Stephen Kings has had to just two. No that's received king, let's Bryant right because, like he had his giant cast iron, there's little marked. Mark TWAIN allows me by Mark TWAIN Tat Day. I think that smart planes out some not sure of our twin lived in Maine. I could be wrong I've heard, but containing continued well. He has like you could tell us this house. Is this wrought iron fence outside of his house and as like, gargoyles and shit on it elsewhere? Pretty obvious anybody coming, I what's a big house to its own: it's not ridiculous, like he
it doesn't have a castle. He lives in a nice big house and he doesn't have one of the seven rooms or something like that. Not really mean it's very nice house, but it's nothing crazy, like I guess. That's how it fits in up their casino Bangalore is fairly modest, environment, afraid, fairly modest city. That's this house, nice! So you dry by any serious mental fence with the gargoyles saving a photo of the They made wonder about that is he's got some crazy fans, that's twenty feet from the sidewalk to the front door. So you wonder, if steal some esteem, kings money goes to there's a couple of deeds lurking around their property. At all times. There's you now you jump deference, that's your ass! I would have. I would have for sure or evil dogs everyone always and everywhere, I would a high would hire manages to just practices on people come over the fence deeds with swords. I wouldn't fuck around guys on the roof, see the roof. Crossbows,
Then I am silence, joys and Oregon samurai in March. Just announced that this is what's gonna happen to you, that's the fuck I'm talking about, but a devil zombie samurai as we would have to be. Actually that's. The name of my next book is doubtless zombie, samurai hooker ethnic cleansing, singular using IE that hard a golden media to sell the book right. It does have a devil zombie Samara whom I rooting for their accounts. You have a country kind to count if you have it, you know heart of perhaps hooker Now you know you're talkin, there's a good story, the she did it, because our doubted cancer about that. That's what this new money her down against that carried against samurai zombie purse was really wrong with hookers. Let's stop. Let's leave them alone. Yes There has been no. I have no problem with this issue. Well there it is so that's how were the Scots sailor legumes launched? Yes,
and apparently already know how it's going to end with a zombie Samara, Hooker and smash champagne bottle of dollar PAN San Francisco. It could end like that or the artificially intelligent robots can take over first and we have high. If I get rich. The first thing we do is investing in Google, so they don't kill me concrete, zero Antigone, concrete member, ok, thing, ok, building on a concrete around here, your voice I'll be over here. I wonder if it would be permitted Google by all. If you know you know you look at what they ve done, it don't you have done anything evil. The sea the very conscientious, very rich and wealthy, but also very conscientious. He always about her great their campuses and how people work there. Really enjoy the environment like they deserve, there's a guy works, a Google who's, the guy, but in the day have you decided he wants to be a woman, so, he shows up at work dressed as a woman and then changes at the end of the day goes home. He's a man again and these
they changed his name at work? They totally accepted it because marionette, kids and his wife, you know he's at he has a wife and when he gets home he becomes man again but wisely He decided that it wants to be a woman, like a guy, doesn't surprise from what I know of Google that doesn't fighting ideas still get your work done, could give a shit. What I like, I care, I think it's good design, that's crazy, fuck and dwell on it to where, see a world of men who dress. I also think that the same story I haven't, I eagerly creepy that one Google might be yeah. We're gonna have to have a meeting about you, weren't a robot mass resting up like the dollar's distracting. So let's have a that's ever meeting its way creep here, presently a woman's like ok, I guess you wanted to know now add the fantasy. What would you do if you could be a woman for a day? Work? Grandparents? like a Google yeah worker do little and put a mask on or be a beer fake, robot people fucking weird,
The things that people enjoy. You know what our fellow, what rising hurt exactly now is not being an asshole. We you start writing a book. Do you do you like sit down, and it's like say? Ok, I want to figure out something to write about, or do you just have like a flash of inside nation and then in a record it write it down and then take with it like. How do you do you start? A book I mine is much is more structured, so the the ones are right for random house. There are three: worse with Lahore in cipher in them the thriller structure is, you know things are planned out to get to this really crazy over the top ending our times I'll have the concept try and work through structure to come up with an ending, that's gonna, be just balls out spectacular and then sort of way. Backwards from their. So, if I do that car, play if I reverse outline it correctly by the time.
And go from this is insane I would never buy into this too. This is a guy having a cup of coffee at his kitchen table in the morning. It feels like seamless transition. You never noticed that your Graham gradually upping the level of madness to get to that creep. Yeah and you just fully hooked unbelieving every moment of it. So it's me firstly, structured? I dont think I I don't think I haven't made. It is right and then go and see where the story goes, because I to have a thirty or, many threats that all funnel towards that last Andy even Pandemic, which the third book in a series of those infected, then contagious than pandemic each of those three books as a relatively calm, beginning Anna earth shattering end, but they are complete story unto themselves simply because I don't I don't worry. Extorting fans out of their money, you get a full story of this book. If you don't read the next book, you have to buy to see what happens at the end of the first by a kind of half so for pandemic.
Was its largely the independent ex just eight shit, crazy, the whole world screwed and you had to come up How do I do this much damage and then work it back from their social feels like it flows either. Naturally, when you talk to other authors, is there like several different schools of thought? As far as creating a story? Zono Stephen king or profoundly fastenings book on writing, did you read it get really like a Bible? It's great really really What would I found fastenings that he doesn't have a structure are now he just search writing. I heard an interview with them. I do know Joe Abercrombie Review George, our Martin Game, thrones, author Joe Abercrombie stuff, you like fantasies ridiculously gut and of course you are game of Thrones George Rr Martin described it. I don't know if he came up with this with this way, I heard it said: there's two kinds of writers: there's the gardener and there's the architect, and he's a gardener and Stephen King, our garden where they put the seat in the ground and they called.
Made it, then they just let it grow wherever gross. I like this fine, I'm going to follow this fine. I, like this flower, follow this flower. Where is the architect which is more like no Tom Clancy or my stories you you'd blueprint, and then you bill the foundation, then you build a framework and then gradually. Ok, now we're gonna put in draw electrical now we're gonna put plumbing. Now we're gonna drywall now now going to finish it now we're gonna payment. You know what it's look like before its time, but there's all the work to make it complete. So those to kind of writers and kings. Definitely in the gardener variety. He just lets us. It role, fascinating ever you ve ever tried to do it that way or do you enjoy the structure aspect of it? Like have you thought about it, a different ways. I mostly enjoy the the tattered gay, of, getting it all to come out and it really love hate relationship, because if yours anal retentive about like this, asked to you have to feel closer at them. This book and I have to tie up all the threads when you do that as
working through some of the characters, change who they are and all of a sudden. You like, ok, now this guy would never do this thing. He would never go into the haunted house alone. He just wouldn't do it and the Let's say I: how do we get around that and usually breaks stuff? So you have to tear the building down and go back and build up all over again and I do that with the book nocturnal. I was just talking about my business partner A back had to deal with me. I was I was miserable for like six months as I wrote threefold and at the end of every full draft like this, just this doesn't work. This is not believable. I cannot get through this book and go that's what that's what would happen. So I did all down and start over move all the parts round. Again, I never thought I would get. I was like I'll. Never get this right. This will never work out with this concept that I have, and I finally got to work with, great help from a joint reviews. My editor at Random House, we. Finally, I figured out, but it was. I was friggin miserable diet,
Eventually, I want to get to the gardener phase. I just wherever goals it doesn't matter. Let us have fun. Do you get mad when you read a book, this kind of his poor from an author, that you really respect totally yeah. That's a foot like they're, so many authors in so many books right now, I'm this I worked so hard to make my stuff so tight and so refined, Tranmere will allay alike. Are you approach a white? I look at it from the consumer's point of view. He dropped twenty four buxom book and you can tell I found it in you not come back as I'm not coming back. If I read your book and like this is the least yours being so lazy, and you took my money and you didn't work for it I'll. Never that on their again for you, you ve completed the work. It's not that anyone who is being lazy, but sometimes as a puzzle that people just don't have the effort to solve yeah, but it's out of their not working hard. They just didn't, did incomplete or they are under deadline. And now I understand more like when I was younger as much more Adam, like you taking my money, you lazy bastard! Now I understand like the others. If there's a acts at the your next thing: we gotta get this book, the press room,
now, if you want to get it out by December for Christmas, yet after yeah, so that's it. Go through a lot when you think when you think he read a shoddy work a lot of times as they just ran out of time, they didn't have time to do it. I think he's very cool, though, that you think, like that of its very cool you think about the the audience and people buying. I think that super important, it adds an element of you, have a connection with them, above them, you not beyond them, you're part of them. They even you need them. You appreciate them, and then you respect them as your writing. You consider them. I think that's big it in this. Maybe this is from being a big reader before the e books it, but it wasn't that long ago you noticed too by the New Stephen King Book for seven ninety five and paperback seven if I was a chunk of money ok. I want this and combine this better, be good, not steam king, but somebody else you buy a blocking like. I didn't get my money there. If I worked hard for that money, I've never forgot what that feels like and No I'd still give all my stuff away. Everything you get on my website. It's got to go outcome. Syria lies books for free
patio books now calm and everything I published. Give away for free is a serial study, but we run voting against ITALY. We listened the beginning, the show just like your show, then you get thirty. Forty minutes So you don't pay for anything unless dude I want describes a lot of people. Have a lot of people can afford, they fled can afford books for them. The story so then how they get it. So we do that way, and then, if you actually by the book, my goal is always you would have paid twice what you paid for it new still happy that's If a man that's a great way of looking at things in love, the fact he give everything away for free to put some ads on who gives a shit? You know why that doesn't arrive in Europe. The flow of replica right just like this, this pod castle, ever do an ad inside the pod gas will interrupt the flow of the conversation, but I think giving people something for free is important because it's nice, it's nice, it's a nice and makes people feel good, then get your good stuff for free. They noticed I figured out calm things
downloading? Your audio books get hooked, have many many many more hours of entertainment right for fuckin free and then we knew stuff comes out. They want to support you and it's organic in a lot of a lot of times. What happens? Is people have a lot of will have money to spend on entertainment and they don't mind spending that money, entertainment. They know. They're gonna get something good. What pisses people if as a spend their money and then on something and then find out that they don't actually like the product. So if I give these stories away, you know that's my pet it. If Advantageth over Stephen can't be going to book story, Scots ignorant, Stephen King, you ve, never heard of me, you can buy Stephen thinks, he's a proven brains, prune storyteller, but be going bookstore. Instead, things. Twenty four, ninety five and Scots agrees free, maybe I'll try this first then go get the Stephen King now I've got a chance for people to try out my stuff and if they listen to a couple of books- and they know it gettin from then on than they they buy. Everything that comes out today comes out, and you you miss the viral aspect. We charge people for things like to know whether this
has a radio team easily frosty, hiding and Frank, and now it such as Heidi and Frank, real nice folks were very fun people. Done their show a couple times and they were on the radio and they went from the radio to doing a, but they making their money by charging for the podcast as they had a good piece change. It was coming in every month, but they couldn't grow they can grow because no one can find out about them because it does doesn't people don't when you go hey, there's his team in our MIKE and fuckin piss face, and they are. They have an awesome podcast, because two bucks trust me. It's worth it young good. Can it be go download out in Kerala, go downright Joe ideas. Why would I bother spent two bucks or something I can get free? That's where gets weird when this is too much the internet is gallery free. Now everything's gonna be free not free. It's going to work.
Is too much that is free that so many options like yet to find another way to monetize things. You can do with a simple like knucklehead way of charging. That really hasn't. I do know anybody who is still doing that anyway succeeded at charging for their pod gas com. They do now that do very well. What did I do is Yea Dan Carl and makes a good jungle change. I hope you'll get angry three. Now why parliament has his by gas. Should his pockets is very different, like your audio books, it's more like audio books on history, but very dramatic and amazing flare to me really excited about learning about history, but he charges for, like the gives you the fifty four free and easy hooked and then, if you I get into the databases once you really get addicted and you ve been nothing but damn car and for two months you run out and then I would fuck and then he said well that that's that's perfectly good.
Yeah. I don't even know what your hair for at tat point. People like that's, that's totally worth dollar zone. I normally get my money worth and then they don't give a shit. It's the same thing that happens my stuff like once they know what they're gonna get. They are perfect, fine paying whatever comes out. Will you know what a change it if everything became like Amazon. One click where you dislike your computer has all your credit card information in and if you want something you just click on a new Amazon, one click because Amazon, one click would be only be slightly more difficult than just click. Not downloading it slightly more difficult because you gonna pay dollar. This is where the dollar. Ok, let's see where the dollar click it be pretty fuckin easy to do, but if you want, actually buy it. I give it
go and entering credit card information and get a pay? Pal account is alot of fuckin steps that you're just not going to do right. Just gonna change the tab and go to another website and you know, go download the nervous or something like that. It's free is hard hearted cell people and buying something, but it just means that people are like, looking at it from the wrong lens. Now, there's a way to monetize it, and I think your way is the smartest give em as much three continents possible? Then they go while discuss fuckin, talented and they want to support you yeah. They. And there's a lot of you know it's. I it's pudding the decision, their hands, you, the customer, no, what you to spend more money on and we sleep don't give a shit if they just keep Dama all of our books for free, never pay for anything. That's fine is at the very least there They go to work there and talk their friends go my guide issue, this crazy grow story are called infected. It's not disguise stabbed him. Some of the fort for like five pages, is nuts and then
eventually some either talking too is girl, go check it out just go by the book. So it's not. You know it. It's one were were were were our goal as we entertain people less. We did. We take you on a world. Bring you in nurse. Take you get rid of all structural awhile. That's what we do for a living, sir. People want to do that for free, some people will pay for it, and even the people get a freer gonna go out. We're good enough at our jobs. They're gonna go out and talk. Their friends about it. We're gonna wind up getting that word of mouth exposure were begun. We got it, chip on her shoulder like that's. I worked so hard to make my stuff so good that I can give it to you for free. You still gonna, give me money for that's a great way of looking at it too. You know it's cool about that adjust its it's cool to think there you are also getting by giving it away for free you you're, getting that word of mouth exposure, which he would be willing to pay a lot of money for that. The amount of anxiety and completing Answer- Stephen King, no one's, but that kind of marketing money behind me- and we know that this is- way for us to go out and get get new fans
people tries out yet he's like royalty. This point: is God, like more at this point in super fuckin prolific, we up Jesus Christ. It makes you feel if such a lazy fuck, when you see that I just churning bad as book after bad ass book. It's it would be worth thing, if you totally phoning it in, but he's not now but love these new books and the new books. It he's been coming out with bad. I just read doktor sleep. They know the sequel to the shining and s really yeah, I'm nervous. Now an excellent shrilly. Good. Woe how long are you put them out? Only families it's hard. Honestly, it's hard to tell them. He's already got two eight hundred page novels coming down the pipe I'm going to guess it was about three or four months ago, and it is any torrents, the little kid from the shining whose now chronologically dislike the same on ears and always in his forties early for is, I think, an
He gets in your whole new perplexing situation, but look opens up with him. He emitting rock bottom as an alcoholic like it's rough, it's a rough Spoiler alert he can, but it goes to some pretty naughty, so yeah but keys prolific. Any disease, what you don't go down with science. Did you read it? Did you enjoy as much of the original shining? No, I didn't. I didn't that's partially, because now that he's at such a royalty level, if you as of one added something he doesn't have to it's the same thing the same place. George, our martinets- I'm not that area, I can get my publisher and say up eight hundred page novel, both a great bring come back when five hundred pages and theirs. No way around you gotta go through, and we find that in my editors, helping we make the story better, better Stephen King, Why is he going to listen to anybody on this point? The people come back in there, some you know twenty five year old interns. Like me, I do, I think, this of movement to to long these assurances, like I'm Stephen, can I think I know what I'm doing
so the books now have they don't move quite is last as they used to move? That's interesting to its credit, the the editors with helping you lie, tightened thing with me: absolutely I'm a long winded, I'm a long winded motherfucker! You gave me my brother's every book about fifteen hundred pages. You would need it We all bear it open to carry that thing around if it wasn't for the editors and- and you know that the people I work with my business partner rails, the books be just astronomically long. So what kind of relationship is that? That's us an interesting relate. I showed them them, I'm bitching about one of the other and the other to the time when you need them both. Why stop around the office a lot? You know I've got some kettlebells in the office, goddamn sons of bitches, you known ass, tat and get mad, and but it's it's worked in a good relationship and I hate to admit it. But I I bitch a lot during this process because I get so frustrating I wanted to be good. I so badly wanted to be perfect and I want
bull to read it and walk away like wholly crap, that's the best book ever it that's what I'm after every time, so, when the editors coming back yeah. This isn't working like I've put eight months of work into that thing that you just want to get rid of. These want to beat the shit out of want to beat the shit out, but the right valleys and make it ultimately they they wind of being right. Well, when you stop listening, you know you're fiction become, something else like them. Night Chamberlain, you know the process where he was Everything fits all makes two hundred and fifty million. At some point. He stops listen to the people around it like yeah. I don't think the it is working out. May we should treat us needs that is tolerant. I cannot get the non oversee planes doesnt, adolescent anymore, exactly oh, so I still, I still listen it's not easy because he had a bit of an eagle with affection, but eventually these people break me down and die, and we make up, we make a more refined. Better story is very honest of you. It's very honest in that. In that approach I think that's all. I want of the reasons why you're so prolific and success with your writing is that you have that ability to look at yourself and
Our situation objectively is very difficult to do for creative purse and a lot of creative people really bad criticism, I'm not good at it, but the to the three primary people involved the process, my business partner, my agent monitor its. Ah, you know I, I trust these people their successful, what they do and at some point they're telling you something that is directly opposite of what you think you still have to sit down like I'm going to value what you're saying on its own merits and like every time I change it over there, there's stuff I'll be like, can find no fuckin published a book. We want that in their regional, give a shit yeah like it. If that doesn't work, but you don't get the book so there's this debate is not as simple as you just bring into them, and then they say this is too long and short. You something he's gone. No, its not jealousy stand our ground occasionally. Yet how do you know understand you ground, there's just there. Certain things where, as retailer you might not be able to put into words the impact this moment will have. But you know
your subconscious kind of you know that structural it's gonna impact this point this point this point. And then the ending, and then, if you dont, have this moment that the you're doesn't really and he's like white. Who cares what he had for breakfast, for example, doesn't matter like yes, but that one make it to the end and seat at breakfast food again at the end of the book. It's going to. I everything together and give the reader this sense of completeness and his her whole soul, unlike they'll, be status more satisfied with a book. So there are things but I can't really explain or I'll try Spain and they're, not listening, but eventually just like. I know this works and that's gotta go in there and that's just the end of the story, but then it par given take. Is you know it's in there some broke rather than an I've had monitor, come back. Ok, you can keep that, but if we keep that you gotta give up, ass well and he'll set it up in that like and then I'll in on and others get furious shit
Do you think you'll ever get rid of them? Well, do you think you'll never be like like this, which I got this with the technology of e books? Can't you just take. This chunks lays a huge chunk that they tend to take out and make it like kind of like a directors kite like hey you by the e book and am also giving you there's like the whole thing. I worked on this story line that they told me to cut out. We did that with the my book ancestor. We had the final book from crown which is random house, and then there was like fifty pages they cut out at the beginning. Like you don't need, the story starts here in the general. If, as you want to start as far into the stories you possibly can, but then I took them DE pages and record him is POD Gaston and give their so it's kind of kind of the same thing, but this is the line pandemics. Last book, I'm doing with Random house and my agents taking new book out called flyer. As of like tat, literally trace started to pitch it. So we want with random house. Again I may have the same guy or remain lineup of somebody else. I've been super lucky in that. I had the same hard
working editor for all five books which, from what I've told, is almost never happens to? Anybody was having the same guy so now he knows I'm going, for he knows my style and he knows how to manage me to some regard, and he knows what to ignore me when I'm calling of names and stuff like that, so it's awesome awesome experience with him, so you have an editor. You have an agent that also reads it as well. How many different people read it before? You were basically three basically three, my business parks. Tenth Street everything first and in an take her feedback, she has left feedback and the editor, but the feedback she brings back is more significant pay attention to that end.
The agent usually only manages the first eighty pages get crazy Abd AL. Unlike what do you have to read the whole book? You only part of a process, you gotta be the whole book. I promise I'm gonna be the whole book and, like the last five draft of the first eight pages, that's all I get through with you. Wanna be one of those wheeler dealer type, Asians. You gotta have that sort of mentality, he's very he's very good at what he does make. It deals cats, but while he cares about, as he knows, if I get this much of the book set up, he knows kill process. If you bind first fifty pages, he can sell the book, then your editors can fix the rest of it. So he's not that invested in the full length of the book and then the real work is done with that with Julian the guy over at at Crown Random House who reads not only He read it all. Through his reading it already through five times and having to pay most attention like we're talking, we find her page books. Why Myspace super close attention every time and I could not his job at all and we, structural stories d use software program to use index cards on a bulletin board like how do you set up
where you're moving all your pieces in your tetra game eyes. Do things We do use. I got up magnetic whiteboard in the this and right on the index cards and put them all up with that and sometimes no strings between the cards. That kind of thing that's the general getting it all down the flow then I use a program called scrivener which people can use for MAC or PC and its. Basically the same thing: it's little index cards in the computer and there's an inn ex card that represents a document. Each document is a chapter, but it's great it's better than Microsoft. Word because it might just for once you get about pass a hundred pages, tuner pages your copying big chunks, moving around and becomes a nightmare gonna screw something up, but scrutinised, read this icon and drag it before this iconic rearranged everything so I've gotten pretty stop using that a highly recommended is great for scatter rain to keep everything flowing, and then times it'll just be you know, I get
overwhelmed with the screen and everything going on, not as part of the three by five index cards and start writing everything down again bullet points I was put him up on the board and go through it that way, so you to do it digitally like to do it manually like to just makes it up and constantly he's doing it in a different way to keep your brain moving. Yet what I find is, when you get stuff that there's a coupled everything's number one of you staring at that screen, you're stuck Getting your hands involved in a pan, and I just an independent paper is attacked. Tactile experience. Different experience at activates different parts, your brain sometimes get out. Now I get it now. I see what I was stuck on, so that's part of it and other, part of it is there's only so much green real estate. You can only see so many things at one time. You really stock, you pull back these index cards you put up and, as you know, for foot by five foot, whiteboard new kind, look at everything. In spring, your brain free at times to so it's largely its having whatever. If I get stuck in one area, I'll start going to other areas, and
when I get really overwhelmed and frustrated. I am more comfortable slipping back into, no the eight year old version of me, which is a little piece of paper and some notes or next guard and go I can just write it out till it all kind of closing the page. So as long as the process is just continuing over and over and over yeah yeah, that's a scrivener yeah yeah use that for Joe are you really there really? Are you I use a couple different things. One I use a real chalkboard or real love, cork Board rather index cards, and I put up with pins- and I have bits I have one star to star in three star: one star completely new bed, two stars bitten still improving three stars is a bit: that's pretty close to being done. Ok, they always grow and change and get we're in is always like new directions. I take on certain shows and does that, make up to mix up the order of like the different pieces inside the bit, try to figure out which way works like scrivener, because take those cards and just move around, and sometimes when
Just studying just think about my act. Maybe I'll! Listen to recordings! It's one of the most uncomfortable parts stand up, but I think one of them important you gotta listen. I then see yourself an endless knowing who, like I did dallied this too much too much bullshit now joke and that this joke is gonna key in the wording is not good or the inflection is to fake, or what have you so sell that process is aided by that and one things that are really levels, and I asked you about his right room areas right room. I've used it just to look on the phone. No right room is the one that takes your entire screen, makes it black and gives you the green list, revenue that he doesn't really skimmers got up of white out or a blackout feature gets rid of everything on screen, except what you're reading. So kind of the saints K cool yet well, that's right room doesn't give you access to anything. You can't go to the tool bar every time. It is young, get shit! That's that right round. That's what it looks like I really really like it's my favorite
then I probably needs start using more and scrivener cause. I get distracted, training gotcha social media everything else in your on the computer and a fan is asking the question the match, on pulses to go answer that question so getting too reckon just ignore all that. But I was in Vegas for the new media expo and when I really get into it and I was under deadline. So I started writing at noon. We're staying at the Rio don't ever seafood faith. The real. I will tell you that our dear you only you there, oh my god I drive back- is that the top the best vomit of my whole life there's been a lot of armed. Like my clams and a musket, I don't know, I don't know what it was, but it was. It was Linda Blair, shit. It was what I see, but I'm I'm right, in its like noon out there's the window and windows open and by the time finished Latona was pitch black outside, so sometimes I can't imagine the same thing when you writing more of a short form, jokes and moving around for the jokes, but for this long form things like fifty page story, my own screen
up, and I did as all I was working. I didn't look at aiming else's wrote the whole thing through here you can get no zones. I dont know jokes, like joke chokes. What I do is I write about subjects and I find the jokes in one hour. About it, what do you want, but I've and is that when I'm writing about things, it takes longer for me to write the word history than did for me to think of it or know it exists. If I'm thinking about history, I can think about it, but I have to say each I asked here: I mean it to actually individually type all the letters, and in that you have much more consideration to every sentence that you write every every chapter, every concept, because your dear thinking, lot quicker than your writing. So, as you writing down you considering deeply each into its like its forces, you to pause and consider each individual word consider the concept actually talking about far more than if you were just having a conversation
in conversation takes more. It takes its much quicker to get the words right. I think in that slowing you down. It makes you can sit, things more and then sometimes you just missed, like really obvious shit, you would have said if you were talking, but when you're writing like What about this and then yoke Often somebody directions that you give your brain like indifferent, rhythm, the rhythm of right. No talking. No, no and no distractions, no fuckin musics, not all the nonsense, locked the door pit it hit the right room, just go yeah. Do you fine do fine! You have to go for a certain amount of time for all the sun shit start to take off, I'm useless for the first half hour get some food I am I haven't even take credit, for. The things are right is not me. Write them.
You know it's your inner ear interviews, we'd wrote it thou once thought about how that one in me, I am like the first. Thirty minutes are usually just trashy absolute trash work and at some point something just takes over a near me. I really good stuff. It's interesting! Isn't it that that weird switch that goes off? We find yourself really Zan in what you're doing and aid. For me it is probably run same town, but thirty minutes in two thirty minutes. First, twenty assets. I don't even think I'm just trying to smash, tease, and rightly down just gang books, kind of getting into China and then somewhere along the line catch like my eighty days so bad now, I've got a technique I'll just set the alarm on the phone set of thirty minutes, like. Ok, I'm just not going to look at anything else. I can do for thirty minutes is just starting out that badly at random force yourself to write for thirty minutes. Does matter what you write and then almost invariably, by the time the buzzer goes off you just like turned off in you. Cause you're you're rollin at that point, but you have to force yourself, you like I have to get into the groove
My group is usually also to move around the house. I like to pick up on my laptop and go. Sits I out go sit in my you now set my Levin around GO said upstairs Gus certain further Tv Watch tv set on a couch, and I think that when I do that, instead of just being in my office. Instead, the scream sentence has been an indifferent space sitting in a different place too, you're. All we hear now and that just yet changing of your routine just a little variation on it sometimes can sparked the mind and interesting new direction. You get you down these wormholes just getting any other kind of sensory input which goes back to not gonna write things down at a type amount in it. Anything like that can cause it's all in Mulder stop stuff, you want to come up with his in their it's not like you. You know now give a factory. We have to make all this. It's already in there, you just kind of getting figuring out how to mine it out of your own brain and put it on the page. You know when I also find super beneficial, a walk, walk, walk
you know and are used to bring a recorder, but now, with these new cell phones, you don't have to get phone to record amazing notes and I just go for a walk, my dogs, sunlight that go down the street and just when Thinking about something and I've got something in my head and I'm done. Writing now, viewing the things that I wrote like. How would I know how would I view this vote, a person whose reading it you know what I? How would I take this? I go taken into consideration as I'm walking, sector fat in other something about forcing itself to do a mundane, very obvious task. Left foot right, foot left foot right foot, then you can get into that groove of introspective thought there despite some of that to me as I go, I've got this little tiny ops, but there's like a loop there's like four rooms and you actually go from. Kitchen in this room to the entry way to the writing room, and I, just as there are do ass, I just start doing labs and usually doesn't take very long, turning right off its high every few steps in its there's. Something about your brain has to put some level of attention on it, not walking into things, and that usually
comes from the part, its blocking you, the part that stop me you're convincing yourself. You can't get the shit out and now our boom run back to the desk and arranging things our liquid. Have you ever I'd using speech, recognition software for writing. They wouldn't work for me only because I'm by the time I blew a sentence down, it's probably already be read, been rewritten three times started sense. Back start sends go back and unfortunately pretty fast taper. I look. That a long time ago I knew I wanted to write and the idea change things so fast, like it's all muscle memory now that copy this paste. This move this around. I cannot speech recognition whatever work for me. The young, Mavis Bacon, teaches type ass. The one I oh I owe that made us back in May That was for me man. I was the poker guy you down this looking right at them. It took a lot
tat of genius product like now just play video games? Bitch take us like what was play, video games and also I can type. It was amazing, amazing, as their fun games, like your racing, and you know that you do not cause a different stuff and figure out where the keys, are that's. That's so important man he's dead where those goofy keyboards it was like really split once in your hands rest on it shifts that those died off. What happened that economic growth we work and I think they work for grab theirs- was good, for I had the one that actually was like a transformer. It actually had a hand in that thing was bad ass. Did you ever get the one where you sink in sync, your fingers in it was weird one like this or your fingers and grounded in a cradle. I still have to look like every now and then I'm still glancing down to get some kind of tracking going on which I dont need to do anymore, but I can't break myself of the habit like I can. I can quote I do they sometimes I'm all overwhelmed with an idea. I'll just closed my eyes just start typing.
So don't mean it anymore, but I'm still, I can't break that habit of looking down at the screen, thats about anything like that, how those yeah There is those, and then there is the Microsoft ones or live and more curly, and they had like us and actual space and enshrined in separate their justice more like lumpy. They called them Economic gatty boy makes us things anymore. I think I don't know, No, the problem is you get used to those in the euro a laptop and its fills weird people were type in their stuff on laptops now so, like the way you learn how type on a laptop as you want your fingers to be right in that position. Of J F fingers across borders there I go you if you go back and forth from laptop the keyboard like this, a thinking more you have to like a quarterback changing throwing motions, Yapped change everything around yeah fucks with you, but speech, recognition, softwares, fascinating to me, because I wonder if that I'll ever be something I'm interested in because
for the walks. I have to imagine you know write your keys, tell speak everything, don't know, I just record it right and go back. It must go back and listen to it. I really find it there's a completely different state of mind: the writing state of mine, and I find them I'm way more creative when I can just sit in total silence, not here. Voice or anybody's voice and then right? I allow allow my brain to go in all sorts of weird directions when they're not its attacks, two following moving language ideas can survive, emerge instantaneously and I just try to follow them and capture them. In writing. I think I limit myself on a actually talking now things bad. Did it For me at this point is down to its a process now, get the process gone and getting more more cumber where the process, so hopefully going towards that. Do not Stephen kings processes just so fast.
The process is also very creative, mean you have to have this idea. You have to have a story if there are eight this story that that parts never for people people I will writers block. I've never had that I've had the opposite, which is just this onslaught of cool ideas like be a good, but can this be a good book and trying to try to keep track of everything, so there play, part being Scatterbrain little kid, fortunately, just as ever been an issue for me, it's all right with me. It's always been the discipline of being the right down and trying to by the eighty d you know and like I have to keep working on this, to make it best. It can be when, after the first draft kind of already done with it like when I wanted to do something else, but you can't you gotta, go back and keep hammering on that sword, make it make it a good weapon Yeah, that's it! That's really interesting that its did the different types of crime, processes that all try to achieve the same thing. When I saw a movie or a book or a joke, it is
really fascinated me the different ways of people approach, it indifferent met them different mindsets. They have in approaching it too in the votes that there's there's no one pattern which is what's fasting about the human brain everybody's got a different way of doing it and just keep work attitude you get to that end product and where you can, Hopefully, look at what you finished with and I think all creative people kind about the same thing you probably ever to like. That's a pretty good joke. That's not best it could possibly be, but I think that's pretty good. That's gonna go in the arsenal for the next stand and with me it's like that book is pretty good. I would work book from next ten years every day to try and make everything perfect, but you know least from either. There is no perfection like a here. Some others know I keep working on it I'm actually the perfect. The perfect phrase in the perfect sentence in the perfect paragraph, imperfect page- that's great, but you know we got to put the book out and sell some books. So I can't work on a book for ten year yeah it's never perfect either because you're perceptions of change radically from damning like this stuff,
enjoyed that I did just a couple of years ago, have to watch now, and I don't want anything to do with it, and I want to watch an autonomous do it's that IRAN Mean District Twenty four months ago, I'm like gonna wanna, hear don't I've got the point our. Unless it's for research, I don't go back and re read the old Alex. I oughta interview with brain grants the non nervous that really helped a ton with that which you know him chicken everybody's ass, a breaking bad he's like the bad actor. At this moment he was really August on IP puts everything he has into that performance, the second he walks out to set these done. Is I mean, I'm not attention that anymore. Moving onto the next thing I did as best I can so am I because I get worked everytime. I read a book and find a mistake or some kind of Guph. Or something the character. Motivation is right. I guess super angry and super worked up. So now you don't read that stuff. Like it's gotta go. Will I think that you sort of when, when you're done, the project even turn, lized everything the unit learn from that everything you ve no ice. I feel like as an artist is
apps person, whether it's a writer, anything or musician. I thank you better all the time or you're not getting better has wanted to, you're, getting better Alla time, causing constant on improving things or you're not, and there's only a certain amount of time that you should consider the past certain maritime consider past work and because, if you consider it really robbing yourself present work. You really robbing yourself with the focus that you could be using on working, the shit you think you are right now. So in that mind set. I start getting repulse repulsed by my old stuff. We're gonna want on tv channels. The day I was in my car two times in a row and raw die was planned. My am, I shall hear me. I want to hear me I dont want to even think that was a different person ten years ago in a month, contrary on right now I had experienced recently with stand up. Not I'm not doing Stanhope listening stand up that show me how much I have changed as a person and
on pandora. All I was through his comedy on. And that's like when I'm not writing carrying out got the obstacle to clean up this put on some counting a pandora just like that cycle through here, new stuff start a new jail for the Andrew Dice Clay Channel, and I got I was in college, we're all crazy for four days like those like we get, we gathered room lots of age ass to be like a guy's wisely days. They are the best and I am listening to it now and I'm remembering these hearing. Do all these old bits I love this bit and then I'm listening to her like, really all that funny to me, and this is so racists and so my size and not like you know, like somebody really should erases humor it now, as is Daniel Tosh, like can do it in a way that doesn't make uncomfortable like is, I don't know how he does it, but Listen! We undertake squares like this. I dont this isn't for me very ingress of. What's on the ball back when I realized like I was,
what we were all laughing at. Was that that amazing, the delivery is delivering his time. You were great, but the actual subject matter was and, unlike I cannot believe how much I have changed. I don't find this funny anymore, see I've gotten more mature and I find it funnier as our hackers. What I know you do and is he's doing, an act that doing Hector ex things up, like is characters is preposterously ridiculously over sex ass. All You now know what to expect so I enjoy from this completely non politically correct approach. He's doing like, as you know, that's exactly what is chosen to do right now. He could easily start doing clean jokes and concentrate on that. No he's gotten dirty or the, whereas weightlifting glove.
It's getting late back is we're in a Fanny pack, talkin about certain Derek expanding glass. Its is get giant old, lady old Jewish. Later doesn't always that, where necessary lies in his new step and well he's late, we saw him in Vegas. It was me Brian, Anthony from opening the need, Jim Norton and Bobby Kelly bunch comedians, and we working cried laugh. It was so because it was for us While we know it's an act, we know it's comedy. We now meaning. When we ve been aware of the EU, I was a huge fan forever got in the colony, so be there like in Vegas, haven't a couple of cocktails and build a why just as in there what it was falconer lie back as at live. It's ridiculous he's talking about catch fag. Are you Can you make a gauge its who's? Who is so ridiculous? It was so ridiculous talking about how it so you
like you, I is destroying it more and more preposterous as airlines all of us is always have this is it was really fucking funny may mean Jimmy Norton and Brian, and we were crying laughing. We really funny, but its verdict there's an art form in saying ridiculous shit. You don't really mean right and that's what I think dice right, but if you yeah you're alone in your car you're in your home and completely sober you listening to some of the horrible things he said, fuck man, I'm uncomfortable laughing it s. Now I don't know what this is about its fiction. It's it's out. You know like in it in from the carriage selected by catch a ton of shit for my book stu yeah? I get people like people so caught up in their own. This is who I am make one of everybody else outside of this area with the second, you touch on my area year, a dick, so I get in in black. Like me tangle days, clay right now I get people like
I can't believe you're that massages might know. That's this asshole character. That's not me! That's the character and people can somebody can differentiate that, but nobody is a problem with it until it's their particular area. Yes, if you're picking in Vienna, transsexuals or Republicans ghettos. You see that Natasha zero thing that happened over the weekend. No, I see she made a joke. She's doing Carson Daily. How new year show in Times square Inch made a joke. About old folks and world WAR two and Pearl Harbor and she got more fuckin. Like unbelievable amounts of people were angry at our, so she made a non apology. Put it on a website is like for its beautiful in order to do that in the face. Her apologies, a brilliant, written, to which he said ass. She was called
so many times she thought she was in a british PA. Rooting for the wrong saw original joke, wasn't even a Pearl harbor jirga, which is a densher jug by old people, eating spaghetti us, because spaghetti has got so much shit for having that image. A spaghetti or holding anymore and flag that they put up on Pearl Harbor Day, The kind of show respect now you know, and then there are like what how dare you you know what it was the actual joke to have put up, but it was the others. A lot of people out there that fuckin love to be offended area There are others asylum. They live in San Francisco for crying out loud, yet ass, his lot in there and they love to talk about being offended and they love to get angry at you, because your friend it
you you are big on the internet, I'm sure you deal with that of a basis. So you then its object. The live, folded, scroll scroll out just a bullshit higher dealer comedian living today sees cool. I love her pandora. Just introduce me to her like a couple weeks ago, she's very fine, she's, very nice to nice person stated to my friends to now three Zoellick motioned to the act. But she wrote on her. I think she's not apologizing for shit, allow it go. Yes, because he's always people out there that are going to want you to polish ass, something that's fucking ridiculous to apologize for their always can exert. I got the most recent one came up and you don't think It's bad until somebody actually the calls you wanna in the book nocturnal there's a character who has direct syndrome also has a voice. Box has lost his voice voice box due to throw cancer, so it's kind of preposterous
and there is always talk in the main character trend make men cared for my fucker precursor, bicker soccer and like it's, this crazy combination of things, which is actually A true story that a friend of mine who got arrested was in the drunk tank, and there was there was a guy with a you know the voice Box, and he had to rats and he's telling me the story of aren't like that. So going book, you can't you that's an awesome and then one of my long time, fans finally listens to this book, and we do the audio books and it's really over the top, and we do it in the audio books. It sounds like the guy from South Park, basically and she's, like that's not funny. I have tried to like you like, ok, so now you have to write cause it's it directly. Pacts. Are. It looks like we're mocking her, but you have to an apology like I'm, not gonna apologize for the story, because it's a character, but you know it's unfortunate that that did you and your your personal saw spot so to speak, and I didn't mean to marginalize you, but I'm not sure the store, isn't funny velvet it do. If it's
The leg was so I can say, that's not funny, then you're not allowed to talk about it, but if it wasn't funny at all, if it was like a tragic situation where personal to rats and knows how to control is in a story, then that would be dead because that's our marking the pudding who accompany you know like you could depict it. You can depict threats and pick two reds being an issue that maybe you know the people that actually havoc and say: oh that's very similar to what I have to deal with no defined with it. But it's making the laughs out of debt there and that's what ticket, This ban any living, it's weird, even being able to say, like all the point of the joke, is that you never know whether he has it or not or he's just using it as an excuse to be an asshole tonight. Anybody, but you know that doubt that one person, that's what every character that I create goes through. Something to that effect. Where so many calls out goes yet us not funny dude, yeah, but they're, fucking assholes really are there really assholes and their self serving Kuntz? Because you
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you ve got all the tweet conflicts, whatever only all the son. You have this large audience, but these fifty people are focused on it and, like you got, pay attention to re leased out of some kind of response to it, but block fuck em all Scott Block, but I wonder why we on file- oh my god, my day enjoy my block yeah, I dont, engage a man. Is you can engage them? We can engage the people who are being nice. Sometimes all engage people in a mocking way if from giggling at them, but to get actually angry at them for what they actually is one thing, if you did something wrong or if there's like some sort of remorse that you have for your actions and may be someone's reacting to that, something real, not like us Natasha. Thank you now use possible you fuck up and say something you didn't really mean. Are you said it too quick? I didn't realize how ridiculous was largely said it, but
if there's none of it and then you're getting he like. We do you gonna pay attention to people, just look to hate people for no apparent reason. I know they living in the past. There can be times too were somebody says something like cheese and ever thought about from that particular perspective and adds a logical perspective. So yeah I'll I'll write rethink what I said there, but that's pretty rare. Why have one thing that I really do enjoy and it's a lot of people are very uncomfortable with when they get hyper criticized when someone like attacks them acts him in a way that it actually makes sense. I think those people that do that. They like it or not there helping you because you have the wrong forcing you to consider whether or not there is any Marin what they're saying energy finally Marin. What they're saying then you relieved of any future attacks like that. Like it's like, oh you're, another Y know you you're, not crazy. Person has a distorted view of reality.
And the reason why have a start, a view of reality can be many. Many many many different reasons you could be fuckin jealousy could be crazy. You could be psychotic, you could just do that. I've gotta people's twitters, like they'll those they'll, say somethin hateful to you a thing about respond and then you go to their twitter feed and it just damn attacking every on fuck and Demi, more Kobe, Bryant fucking me, but you can find some people do this. They they through not a bunch of different lures, unwholesomely bites and now even a real person. I unfortunately guys pretty much we myself from looking at Amazon Reviews. Any hard is there's just some. Asshole wishes that goes on there like nobody's business Youtube, is the centre of our guy. Can I don't even have a look at Us Youtube comments on Amazon, I'll go and once and I'll see a one star review, and you know, like I work my ass off for two years, you son of a bitch. What are you gonna say about once in a while? They like they take the book apart and like from Europe, active, I can see that's a crappy buck to Asia.
Rob, but most of them are just dating actually read the book like you can t from really like, they read twenty pages and stopped and gave you one story view and you get all super pissed off and then you go click on that need to read through the router reviews, and it's just like endless stars, one star reviews, my class starship, I like then you're like okay, that's not really my audience! You know what I found really fascinating about people like that. The people who are really harsh on, like writers or movies, or what have you and you read the criticisms and Often a lot of work put into that's a lot of work. The criticisms like I've gotta people's yelp page. You read like a really evil. Yelp annually. Ok, let's go to the guys. We help pages, see what d you know. He hates this restaurant so much and see what he says about everything and everything is like really well written destruction of various restaurants or various things, and you go isoude that guy's Dillon
distracting himself from his own failure is attacking everything is being mediocre and do so not even realizing how ironic it is these put all of his energy and criticising other people's work as he's avoiding doing his own. That's a big with a lot of these like bloggers and critics, and people who write what are they actually doing here? You're writing a bunch of evil ilusha. But what do you actually contributing other than your opinion? It's turning dogs share. Why don't you? What do you make? What are you going to put up? What do you put out in the world like the people whose whole world is nothing, but I'm going rip on Kobe Bryant, I'm good up, I'm not gonna come on Ripon Lebron James, poorer for under achieving, and you like what the fuck do you Do what do you want this guide due for Christ? Sakes like that thing, and then the yelping people ripping on everything like just like the way they do. It go doing something great yourself. I very rarely attack journalists, but I have gone after a few Emma May. Journalists of An evil shit about fighters does really now
as these stupid fuck, and hurtful snarking shared right, and the only reason why they're doing as is their comments in now, and you got expose them for what they are. I mean just because someone fall short just because someone tries and gets beat up by someone is better than right. You know have some respect for that process of development, of understanding of exploration of adventure that these fighters go on for your entertainment, the sacrifice they have to make just two people again that ring and too few sharpening. You have seen cage you, but you ve already done an enormous amount of ship, stunning stunning, sacrificing even when they make horrible excuses for why things went wrong. In my opinion, that has to be treated with an objective centre. Respect you have to understand
and psychologically their defeat is unbelievably brutal, retina fighter going through a defeat like they're looking for some reason stay alive when they're telling you. Therefore I wish I had staff, and then I got the flu and then made. Maybe those things are true, but the reason why they have to tell you about those things is they're fucking phone of Arthur Life into their clown in looking for something to gain some sort of the victory of Gmos. My ass, but I was in a car accident six weeks ago. Man I deal with insurance and they, find some reason to give them some reason that they're they're worth something you just and you'd, like those journalists once in a while to say something the effect of that
bad. You have sea fight it still better than any. You have sea fight. I've ever been and cause I've, never gotten alluring. My friggin life. I don't think they have to say that I think you just have to treat the situation with respect and they have to treat what would a fighter is actually doing and they have the treated differently than planned basketball cause. It's not the fuckin same. Thank when a baseball games lost. If you go home crying and freaking out, you probably a baby. Ok, but when you get your ass kicked in there that I stole a little piece, your life. He stole some happiness from you and, if you don't risk veal respect that it's because nobody ever beat you up. If somebody, if you ever fought in sun, kick your ass, you would realize now like this is a good feeling at all right and will, let's just analyze what happened in the fight itself. You know if you want to psychologically break down what what's wrong with that where it goes wrong to do with respect and can be done with respect, but you
We have as a bunch of really shitty writers who only get attention by being Nedda. That's, but that's been sports. Writing! That's why I gotta sportswriter organizer, radio, sports, radio, it sports writing and I've been like really disrespectful to those guys, because I don't think that has any place in martial arts and believe if you get shitty about a football player. That's your tradition. That's fine! But if you want to add that same sports guy bullshit talk to martial arts, as in fact you, you know what you're talking about right. You don't know what you're the some fuckin dummy, some dumb, dumb foot All guy does amateur. Football was talking about innocence over breakin his leg, this is. Why would never cover Emma man? I don't watch it never will in own, like dummy you're, a part of the number one sport for traumatic brain injuries than our want football, and you also amateur football which we didn't get paid. So the universes pimp these kids out. They make fuckin billions of dollars on college. That's where you cover
you make your living off of it, while the players make none and they're getting fuckin brain damage left and right, and you can about animals from just fuck. You dummy sports dummy yeah. It's a bunch of these sports damages in in being a former, small time, sportswriter and a former like small time college athlete they being able to see both of those sides of the coin in any way, competing at that level. Just the amount of work and talent just to get to be Saki at something that most of these writers have never die. They ve never done anything even close to it. Talking about, and there oh careers based on how much of a dick can I be much attention and that's how they got attention for the longest time. I don't think that's gonna last anymore. I think that that sort of that was fine when everything was being distributed by media networks, when everything that you,
could really comment on it. If you are a fan of Jim Roam, the radio show ten years ago, or so mean out what kind of feedback you ever give em, you know get there is our freedom. And when he did something controversial, people listened and they watch was an inadequate way of gathering up attention. But I think that these were maybe guys in these guys, are becoming long now that are trying to do that. There really fuckin themselves by playing this act, of being this. He now really shitty in our sports guide. Talk I think, ultimately, that's gonna be exposed as being a really effective way of communicating negative and now really fun to listen to either Riah. It's the judgment level. I I don't know that that'll ever go away, because I think Unfortunately, a lot of people watching the stuff went away to feel better about themselves and daring about players is still huge. It has no place in martial arts, whoever work martial arts, Eu Airlines, good that could be an oasis of logic than in a world of asshole. Very well,
stakes are higher than any other sporting stage. Our emotions and sell his break that the Acta will that happens at football that happens in basketball. Nine have been cast traffic injuries, almost every kind of really physical, explosive sport, its unavoidable but what Anderson did break that he had was very unusual. I've only been I've only seat. Of those ever live in person and I've called well over a thousand it's probably close to fifteen hundred five to my career, doing commentary right of voicing it twice, so it's pretty rare. So for someone to point that out, that's why I don't watch Emma may or never worked. It accurately flock every snorted. Cheerleading has catastrophic ass. You Harold prizes, death, Highschool cheerleading is really fuckin dangerous. They fly. Each other arguments, hearing AIDS just started that crap and I'm very nervous about vision aspects is very scary to let me your question? Can you
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trip me because you, The author, you see everything in your head. You know how it's exactly supposed to look, but when the direct, you're gets hold of it and the proof gets a whole that their seeing something else and they're the ones who make the pictures move. So you got it and go with what they go. If I mean what we're trying to do as it were, We're getting infected to be a tv series and not turn out to be tv series, is just trying to make myself indispensable to these guys. Like I'm always here, I'm always ready to answer questions right to go to work for you and time you want becomes oils points like. I think what you want to show might not. You know exactly what the fans want to see. Maybe you can influence that, but that's all how influence things a little bit, because that's not your job near their job, is to make movie. I remember one Stephen King first saw the shining he's very upset. Very upset with even Jack Nicholson's performance is Jack. Nicholson was crazy from the jump and he didn't want that. He wanted their beat to be an arc waste normal guy, slowly start to fall apart. Where's he fell again
Wrinkles in was like so borderline unhinged from the beginning, rather of the movie. Just a completely different movie than the book, and then they did that one with the dude from wings. They did the before what Stephen keep him cycles too late in out. It's really hard to do their competing against. One of the icons of american film yeah that the shining film is, you know like it or hate it. That's that's in every top, top one hundred out their cause, he's just so dramatic cubic such a bad mother for mean his movies were so incredible. He was so, here too, like he did shit now, move like where the guy was gonna blown by the stuffed animal yeah like what are far for he's, going to hear what the fuck Movie was so weird no strong, but
yes, even king, apparently just just hated the crap out of that thing you never really got. I've, never really got the impression just being a fan that he's all of that interested in his movie adaptation see no, he dreaded maximum overdrive, which was very involved in a couple other things, but for the most part he's, largely not part of what goes on in his filmed. It seems like so he wonder if that movie was like I'd screwed us. I got to be more paid more attention what's going on. Well, I think he had some huge, like Carrie the original Carrie, which is still to this day, like they tried to do a new Carrie and every three hours. Now they do and who carry every three friggin here is wasn't happen and there the new Carrie she first. While she was too cute with a girl this girl from kick ass, she's adorable
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this is so bad feeling and watching a soap opera. Now so barber made on Mars when I was bashing and oh my twitter, that so many people get pissed off at me like a lot of people, you got a good folk and movie Bro Wealths like we're talking about. I dont know what other people say. I dont know what their perception of reality as I have a feeling that there's a bunch of different perceptions, realities just like people of different your size, is indifferent brain power and do people boy different vision. I think some buzz perception. Reality is fucking, weird That's why they like shooting music and shilly movies. I think the through that their seeing the world through is very different in the foot filter that you are I right. Maybe that field there is shaped by culture or life experience or the lack of neural, chemicals. Then I'm enough, shit firing intermittently eat cholesterol whenever their missing their medicines and then they see the world in weird. That's how shocking that selfish? I only watch a movie near like I
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crash. That's a fucking crash. You know I mean it's. This the re scenes are very realistic and the youth I feel like you're, actually watching a real crash whereas I feel, like you noticed some cgi that it's like a lot: Great Get me wrong. I saw the new sore looks great, but I have really happening right now is on our building a loose, its fake its. Is it fake enough to take you out of the story? The yes? Yes, it is, and it is- and you know it is never allows me to get really deepened historic. As I know it's horseshit right, you know thought the ship Let me out of was like knowing exactly what's going to happen exactly what's gonna happen. Next kind of a thing like this is hard to get into that. That particular move more. That's one of the things in a really loved about the new Hobbit Movie special effects. They did we're just enough It was a bunch of craziness, our given spoiler alerts, but up until the time get to the dragon this in other fields. Silly scenes knows a lot of fun involved and everything, but such
the dragon itself so well done and the scenes so well lit the whole everything about it. So bad ass, though you girl, Kay did it right. They do this one right, they nailed it. There are really did nail. Ok, but it's hard to do with sea g. I desolation Ishmael generally and the first one. Yes, yes, it was deafening. And the flood can't it can't be the whole movie in May that part of the problem. Pacific rim, as you know, you didn't really, really care about any those characters like let's get out, then she's giant things beat the shit out of each other. Details ruin for the dragon, philosopher, totally ruin for the dragons. My fair person, clever he's got a lotta gold and that's what pissed me off his that run tomatoes with seventy percent of that many are so many wonderful Pacific rim, and- and I just thought I lost my mind beyond that- cutting was horrible. The script was over there, but the fact that you said that you did even Is this sword anti like half way through the movie? That's like the best weapon they that robot had or whenever right, Yemen for IRAN to meals with a habit.
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he also brought them help bring them a championship so yeah, but if there really angry Boston, people trust me those uncomfortable with this stream. We uncomfortable with all of us now you're an author kimono, making fiction, putting words into people's mouths are making characters the asshole racist character from Boston, yes, and that could someday go in a book and that's the bad guys. You build you, here's a question when you confronted with Syria areas, like that like say, if you have a racist character in your film or in your euro book, rather an you constructing him. Do you hold back on certain things you think I'd be, would find offensive, or do you try to him in his vile away as possible, which would include someone yelling out, regret things I it there's. There's there self, my own self checking on that and a lot of times I kind of have to get over myself like this- is this is language that I dont like.
Can't stand, and but this character is not mean, have to get to the point of the character. It actually use it because that those people are out there and that's largely when I have to explain with my fiction a ton like. Why would you put that in your book? That's not that's not cool like yes, but there are people out there who you that this is reality. There's really people like us all to make the story feel real. We, these real assholes, we have to deal with everyday put him into books all use em. What's fast, leading to me is the amount of pushed back get from over the publisher side, the published you come out with that language of the character like we're going to die. I'm like keys are clear member. No! how can a deal that down he's burning across he's clan member and now we can have that make. Those are one of the things like I mentioned earlier that some things I for my part, am I going in the book because that's real life and people actually say that and so that can get tricky, but do in horror, right or any kind. Arraying right, I think,
a lot of stuff you cross. That makes you feel super Ikey, like I, you know, em I influencing someone to perform these kind of acts by putting it in the book and the more the crazy, violent shit. That's always in the back. Your head, my books are ridiculously violent and always in the back, You're had like ok, What if some day some messed up kid reads my book and then says: I'm gonna go reenacted torture. Seen on somebody and am I eventually gonna be responsible for that. So that's always thought and the racist up as a thought to, but largely just you let it role like it, think that's what a real person would do and talk like an act like than that goes in the book. Tat was the argument when American Psycho came out read it in the eighties. First came out Bread EAST Analysis book, which is really fuckin dark. If you think the movies dark with christian bail. It is literally nothing compared to that book. That book it's fuckin, dark and our member some p
All that I knew then had read it. Who were really a ended? They were, the angry and offended, and they were saying like this isn't good writing. He just is discussed I mean really fucked up things that make you uncomfortable that goes onto the next fucked up thing and the guy just keeps getting away. We share, I didn't see that What I saw was this an intense view into a potentially real person. I mean there are can serial killers, they do exist. They have murder people and tortured people in horrific ways very similar to this character right. So what he's done is drag us into this really stomach wrenching uncomfortable world, this one in ten psycho right and it's fuckin masterpiece. I think I think it's masterpiece we're going You know that the process of writing in any creed realm, redoing film, redoing, comics, you're doing bucks and going into bad guys head in making that bad guy live and breathe and feel like a real person. Part of
that process is the bad guy, doesn't think he's a bad guy right. This supervillain doesn't think she's a supervisor. You know you, these people are always morally justified and everything they do, they don't Committee evil their committing acts that are logical to them in their being just in there. They are committed. Revenge or getting fair desserts on someone. So being What right from the perspective of someone who is doing awful horrible shit, but they don't think horrible, that's one of the tricks to doing it. That's what he did in that book? Is you know the main character. Doesn't it really catch him going, I'm going to commit acts of evil. He just doing what he thinks is what should be done when it wants to do. What what he wants you what he needs to do or what he'd do as we all do in human beings, those things we need to do we, find a way to morally justify them whatever it is that you do that, you may know is a bit squishy in the eyes of society, there's some another party or had the checks and balances system. That goes it's! Ok, if you do it, here's. Why it's even a good thing that you do it adheres. Why that's?
Oh that's what he's netbook and that's that's part of this group. Screwed up. Of writing only if you're, just not writing superficial good guy. Guy sneering Dudley, do right, says it against, namely whiplash, and those stories are perfectly fine. People love them, but if you're, actually I want to get into the point where you make that bad guy will you for the bad guy and empathize with the bad guy, that's tricky stuff, my gold into my boxes. If there's a showdown between the main, the bad guy in the good, the good guy and a bad guy is you're, not really sure who you're running for if you ve done it right, it is not really sure who they want to win that fight, even though one is morally reprehensible in the other, one is possibly good. Will you want to set up obvious paradigms and obvious characters that writing to have been repeated over and over again through our time and more complex and weird and tony pronto, like you, can get the mean that that was like Sopranos
My favorite shows ever unwanted things. I really liked about. It was a tiny supply. Was a fuckin murderer using evil, scumbag martyr that you were rooting? For I mean it was. Very, very fascinating way. The date they danced with that and, I think, would bread Now ass did in that book was completely unapologetic. Can that's why I found it so fascinating because the way described there. Horrific sickening way described these crimes was you know, I mean it was so cynical it almost like done in the mind of a psychopathic. I didn't they necessary, even enjoy it. You think he was really good. There is part of that book there, like the pie, where he shows up to clean up some bodies that he left behind and Entire apartment had been cleaned, and he's he locks eyes of the real estate agent and a real estate agent is Woman is like selling the places like. I know what you did get the fuck out here and they exchanged. This look
really fastening scene of two monsters running into each other one of the murder of the other when a psychopath or sociopath, and they won't, I fear, parts that book and both of them. I remember that part, but you know you know, but them think that they did the right thing. He was writing a seller department for Fucking five million bucks. One of them was an he's gotta who's going in there to clean up the bodies that are left in the covered and acid or whatever fuck? You didn't, I forget what it was, but yeah that those those really evil carriages that you create. That's an interesting thing for me because, like like this description of the guy coming down with those headphones on the other guys walking down people yeah. I share their obviously saying angry things like what would they say what they say? Fuck you out. Ok, you see we mouth that right. Would you mouth you know: going to die with the maybe maybe we'll go with you for going to kill you going to die. You can see him out that, but you can't say Niger
I see that we are even people, you may an evil people, that's fastening. We can threaten your life right. We can get away like we're kill you they can, while fat in a commercial, and that's probably ok but the other side. That's totally done. No one's gonna put. That was just this fascinating thing about creating fiction the fascinating about fiction. Is you know why your creating an evil person like what you're saying about. Will a person do petite your acts? Will they create copycat crimes? Will they will they start looking into your way of describing things recreating the horrific way in the real world that you'll feel responsible for weather, racist thing, whether its violent thing or whether it whatever it is. You know That's a fastening thing to have to think about when you're creating fiction is, are you you may be reinforcing or even per Perhaps in firing an idea that ultimately very evil. I think in many instances where art has influence people who go do something. You know those people Looking for that moral justification, even really dont, know they're doing when
I'd, Stalker killer was out. You know. If it s easy. Hadn't wrote the song night stalker that guy you found something else that I found something else to do to validate his need to go out and kill so that's easy for you to say, but if he did what you wrote in your baby, yet that that would be super difficult to deal with. But I'm u no kind of thought this through several times for their rights and fucked up shit is is, if it happens. How am I going to feel about that and have already kind of genetic, because I'm not a bad guy either? I'm just like people, I'm talking about the guy. I pray justice, that, with that guy or that girl, would have found something to latch onto and would have gone out and killed Bay. John you now and Andrei story. Instead of my story, yeah, I'm very fastened by the influence of of something creative, like that, whether it's a film that inspires like taxi driver which inspired John Hinkley Theirs, fascinated by that strange link between in a creation of creative creation. That's turn into a move. Europe
and how it influences people and how you catch someone's got the wrong for chemicals floating around their brain read any one of your books and D. To enact a scene when there's a guy was arrested in Vancouver offered in enacting a Dexter saying: oh yeah, he was no, that yeah you geek fuckin, kill somebody Dexter them because huge Dexter fan you gonna tell somebody I'm a huge Dexter fan I was a huge extra fantasies in one year like they got one got the best season now.
John with gown. I do not want to seize and I can watch your bedroom negative, terrible taken aback karma, jujitsu practitioners. I know it looks like WWW choke somebody. It doesn't look like it was terrible. Thousands if I believe, can be a bit of a joke. You may show you what it feels like he choked. You can act like that. You cannot go then, when you choking, or will you name screen time some interesting? This is I'm sure, there's all that you ve been dozens of tv sets that we did our first tv set visit ever further for justified. Together, shooting episode number seven, because the people making justified or instead making effective use here? So we need to go on You know Timothy Elephant, do his thing. Ones that he's the these. The marshal ones wears a hat, ok just by and he was in what was he was dead,
Where did he was another guy you wore hat and shot people than any other got us from the shield that really good actors from the shields in that as well. I don't know which played like that. This was one of the copse one of the dirty Oh you know, don't that's a Walter goggins here he plays a bad guy. He got his flocks the two of them? If you never know just by the two of them together are lights out, with a best. Do the best. Acting do oh on tv, in my opinion, hands down is at a really good show knots amazing model here about what will I don't catch and hype its? Oh, it's! its catch and it started its head in the season. Five, which starts tonight, actually signify premiers on season five. So I can start now and I'll get four seasons. You can get forces innocent advertisements for justified and have not yet and advertising. Let's go choking. Someone gave used here's what you'd like he's Wade like it, it's basically the character, the toll, psychopath his whereabouts and function. Perfectly normal society, but when it comes point to arrest a guy instead of just on the gun and going ok put your hand,
I gotcha. He leaves The holster and he's always like. I can take it Are you going to serve life in jail or you can draw a gun, and if you, me down you get to anymore. Don't I'm on one another's? That's how dare you I'm sorry spoiler alert. I'm sorry, Butscha son of a b that got, we got to go and set, and the UN elephants rings grants in his very fanboys. Supercool natures only talks to the market, the real Marshall who's been consulted on the show for all four years, and the ask him a question like a little Would my guy do this and you could see the marshal sweating a little bit cuz. He knows what he's gonna say: it's gonna screw up a lot of work and basically says yeah you of point? Abc D need ass. If you were me, you do just gone straight, Avenant done with it, and then they can tell them now going to go back and do rewrites much like the John Lifeguard thing, with the bad rear naked choke there. So the other so hoping it's gonna, be as realistic as possible. They're gonna have to go change a bunch of crap. You hear that
When I saw reneged sugar Fellows Watson like TV show from the eighties others watch jobs will be involved in UR pinch was far. It was Vulcan pinches more believable as any sees an alien I've got old man with shitty biceps Chillun, some lady in a bad time zone, fighting back people fight- like wild animals. When you try to kill them, yes, crazy, the that's the unreal, listing portrayal of doubt that took you out of the story, that's a good thought and I agree that the really good scenario and starts terrible starts the worst. Naked choke, seeing their strategic. I'm a stickler for technique when it comes to shows is that early Shokhin Out Mattel salmon ain't that easy bitch is if the whole right side is wide open to the type of aid as an objection curled up now that she's not fighting hard enough for faces a red like you got it, I would both naked enjoying this is a truly. This is a rare, naked choked offer real because they are in bath
there's no way by the way you again to the bathtub. Without anybody getting totally where everybody would be soaking wet should be fighting for life and flop around you, wouldn't behind her naked and be able to do this. This is ridiculous, a ridiculous position terrible season socks. I changed my mind. You fucker, that your fuckin bullshit, I think that Dexter just went started just getting weird surging, we're on a non believable. After, like you nourishing awful, I feel like firmer from it native perspective once they got through season. Two and three mainly season for is really to keep that still going he's the serial killer, he'll, Sera, colors, there's only so much the challenge is to that. Writing team were significant. How do we keep this going as are making money and make the best? Shall we cannot manage? Add we really hard what the problem is? Also that dude stopped looking scary, if you look at them currencies in one, he was yoked there. He was there, they were talking about him being a commercial arcs expert here this thick neck and traps and everything and he looked creep and scary. You know he looks
the guy who fuck somebody up here, but you look at him after he got sick. Unfortunately, he got what he have like. Leukemia supply had cancer headaches your chemo, when he was really fuckin skinny for a long time, I will now not buying Am Rag Boeing, always people before I bought him as is really crazy, super strong guy, who is also a serial killer and was just using his Agnes to get rid of bad people rise like this is a fascinating concept, but after wiles, like beer, Scott, soon then back to cough.
Listen man, congratulations on everything. That is a huge, huge news that you ve got these two things in the works and in our wish all the best man and- and let me know when, when you knew stuff comes out to be having a tweet affordable, have be happy to talk about on the park ass sweet. We really appreciate him as really fun. Talking you're, really insightful, tutored love digging into someone's creative process ass one. Why shown that king, I ll exam, has a deal he's a good guy, buddies, bad ass. That guy probably has three Vermont just remind people ever go to the website find that book put in the code death Squad get that e book for free. Yes, title fight! Scott Scots. They can get you on Twitter at Scott, similar n online. It's got Sigurd our conquered and sorry pandemic tour. We're starting January eighteenth of beautiful people, go to the homepage, Scots a good hour, comets right on the right side bar and we will be in L, a what's the data Bella,
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