Brendan Schaub is a mixed martial artist and also a former college & pro football player. He also hosts a podcast with Bryan Callen called "The Fighter & The Kid" available on iTunes.
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Friday and Saturday, three UFC cards in a row: chaos, lots of fights insanity, so Brandon being a former fighter in the UFC and a very knowledgeable, martial artist himself knows a lot of shade about MA. Thought would be cool to have him come in and and talk about that and talk about all kinds of. Do you like we always do it's like these fight. Companion, part. Yes, they start out with us just watching fights and supposedly talking about it and they they could wind up being anything but Amy Winehouse and yoga and craft beers and hippies and stinky feet like whatever to do talking, enjoy it. Alright, Brendan Shop, The Joe Rogan experience trying my day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day, yee ha and we're live. Dumb branch. I gotta talk to you about marijuana in exercise together as a group. Really I am
huge fan. Today I do something I haven't done in a long time. I haven't been getting high and working out I got high and did yoga like couple weeks ago and I've funk and loved it. Was a ninety minute class and it went. I thought I was abducted by aliens and I Todd aliens, not aliens in spandex. The place I go to is not done well. They're very nice people will just say that, but when I was when I was in the cloud, usually the class like ninety minutes, it's rough especially, Those last twenty. Oh you gotta grind you gotta stay focused mentally mentley mentally sounds like bullshit like like commodities. Housewives are tough yeah. I've been, Do some shit. I've been do some shit with football and fighting and a ninety minute class watt I didn't know, was ninety minutes, others sixty how's it down not to freak out. I don't have what I have what I have water. Oh no super gangster was like at sixty minutes, I'm cool with water. Then it gets
our mark and I looked over the girl next time. We we supposed to wrap soon. She goes. Oh, no, honey, it's nine minute. You should see my wish. They had my face on camera that God you doing now bound to break about to break. You need to try, a Wim Hof method that dude didn't do like a marathon in the middle of the desert in Africa, or something like that. No water Animal me making it through yoga, no water. Just saying with him. I'm telling you man until I was about to break about doing it, hi where it was easier. And I don't necessarily know if that's good see. I think that, like sometimes like those mental struggles, that's good for the Tigris deals up the mind and the weed man it like almost easy easier way. Easier like to the point where I was like. That was an hour and a half like. I never do that when I'm so over and over and over you kind of freaking out, at the end and I'm freaking out, but you just like just grinding just what I try to do.
Who is the end of yoga class. We sound like the biggest pussies that have ever walked the face of the earth. You know when yoga gets hard, whatever bro fucking. I love that shit. You get hard bro the fucking talking over a tough enough bro. I got mental toughness. I'm doing our anger and shoot for hill. So I don't get. Will cluck ninety minute! Yoga will fuck you up. It will fuck you up, but I I do is I just tried to concentrate on my breathing? That's it my breathing cut and don't I don't let anything in. I don't let any complaints and I don't let any I'm tired- and I just won't. I know it's there, but I just just bear down and really focus on breathing and bear down and focus on whatever I'm trying to do physically, whatever the postures dude. For me, it was my I'm working so much in our care about his work, and so I think that all time, but when I go to you'll, get so hard yeah, it takes my mind off. What's going on, yes like a reset button, but it is a mother. I I feel the exact same
It does something there's something about holding poses in the difficulty, the focus that it requires. Do it right, it's sort of a race. Is your mind. It cleans your mind out. It's almost like a car wash for you yeah. It was like a little reset. When then, it helps later in the day yeah it helps you like you you're, so much yes, I wanna see reactive, but you more relaxed when it comes to like outcomes of things more relaxed. When it comes to interactions with people, I swear to God. It makes you a nicer person, it opens you up, I'm not more open minded. You know I've been going for about three weeks now in Santa Monica. When I first got there, I'm literally no one talk to me. They are likely to this fucking meathead. And here no one talk to me. I was in the back. I'd come out. They have like their little groups and I'll just be on my own. My present, damn it. I know man bullshit religious, real race of men racing of real men, but
is the racist against real men there. My friend, I wanted more human run him over now, though they're cool, you want him over now. What's up Tina in all this shit, yeah yeah, eventually going to get t color, there's a place that I pass by in Santa Monica. That has some yoga class, but it's like a factory that produces hot yes with towels under their arm, like what so how about mental toughness? Try not popping a boner in my yoga trap class straight up. I can in there I'm like God, right and the teacher goes. I forward. Gaze forward. Sorry got she tells you that cut to everyone gaze forward. While they catch people staring at assets, I'm sure I'm sure that's distracting as fuck. Imagine if you're doing your pose and some dude staring at you crack it's annoying. If I was a chick, I get missed it unless that's some girls are into that
pretend they don't like it because you hate it. When people look, you know it's weird. It gives you have got to him to help. I hate it. Your house teacher hanging out the back room downward dog, but the the some of the do. You know God bless them, though, find great shape and they just say fuck. It turn basically assumed a got out now. Yeah yeah, this guy. That goes to my class, and I admire him he's just old fat white guy and he the it looks like probably never done, support in his life, you might not even ever use the stairs he might just elevators is whole life. I mean he looks, he's never even thought about exercise like nobody informed in what it was. He just got behind a desk start eating then hit like sixty, and I don't oh well, you know what motivated him. I've never had a conversation with him, but this dude is, in there grinding, Grind Chertoff shirt off bandana
here is a white bandana like the karate kid yes, fucked up full gray balding, you know the whole deal. It's like the whole hair is chaos and giant God, gray, hair over stomach in his tits, while he's in there. If he's in there grinding that fucking guys in there grinding you know, I appreciate the hustle man like yeah. He can't do it. If he stumbles gets right back up, tries it again get to the position holds. It stumbles gets right back up way too vain to do any. Of that I hold the position like a mother. Fucker like. If I fall everyone's going to look at this asshole, I stick with those levels for sure of like commitment to a position right for sure and that's the difference you see in people like there's this one girl in the class that I go to she's, indian and I think she's in the Emily she looks like is indian fucking feather in talking people from the country. Inn
uh, not native American Todd's. I am politically correct me and that's not India. I don't we'd like to be defined. That way, I think like dollar men day. Indian, ok, you know dollar Mendes. No, no! Oh my god to pull up the song. Tunak tunak tune this guy, there's a dude named dollar Monday and he's this indian pop star guy and he's, but at least one song. I tried to listen to the other songs. Dark I couldn't get into my bed, but he's got one song. There is one of my all time, favorite sites- I don't know what the fuck it being over here. It's just going to pull up the video pull up the video and show it to Brendan on this screen right here. The one over here, so we don't get, kicked off of Youtube. Help is awesome, ' All my God is awesome dude. You know. I believe this is a real do real. You got like the sun. I I it's I've used to play the song when I worked at fear factor well to start from the beginning. Yes to know the music
Anne right there and then give me some volume. Here we go. Look at the with shitty graphics, terribly asteroids are coming in early. This, it's like fucking are Tori. Look at this dude. You took the audio off d, I will close for this yeah. You think now look at this guy. Oh shit, tell me him him and him in the video he's like what we need. We need more of Maine, I mean he's dressed in traditional Indian. It would look, like magicians garb. Now. This is full fucking at latin up in this plot. How is it is awesome?
You know what I like about it. I have no idea what he's saying so. It's it's like music that you make with your mouth is another song. Just dog shit, I just couldn't get into him. Maybe someone needs this turn me into the right one. I'm sure you have some other hits you fucking with their. You know, Gangnam style that one he came out with another one, though, is it a hit? It's pretty big. It really called my daddy or some. I got it from my daddy. Ok! Well, people, you fuck, haters out there one hit, wonder my ass. You know Howard Stern, saying that once I was listen to news talking about that guy saying we're going to do now: sweet over for him like how well this is the other thing like, maybe maybe it's over, but why? If the guy can do it once why? What is it makes a fuckin one hit wonder what is it? why does someone become a one hit, wonder like what, if you could put together
like a bangin song like there's, a series of one hit wonders like if you go to websites the best ever one hit wonders, but if you could put together like one of those Unbelieve we'll bang in songs? Why can't you put together another one? I don't get it do you think fame fuck! Some up like struggle sounds a lot of things. Definitely, but that's one in Greece, in in a giant poisonous stew, a huge ingredient there, it's a big one, huge one. It's also wrote that song, like what kind of collaboration did the per who write that song did they write the rest, the songs, true, but a lot of times to like one of band gets big and they have like. Maybe one hit or one album and then you know, fame comes the torque on Namazi. Some guys feels like he needs more notoriety drugs kick in played. This is a big one, drugs it very well, specially the Downers heroin and stuff and booze guys who just booze every night,
uh just slowly pulls away It's also it's just. It gets to a point where I think they're overwhelmed. You know, if you a rock star in your on stage and you're singing the songs. There's twenty five thousand people out there and they're all screaming you'll be over it. Probably overwhelming, could there be a better job, though watt? Do you really don't have to train that much? You know, I'm saying what don't get don't get me wrong. Don't give me in yellow practice, but we're talking about practice. You opposite overtime, up, rap they practice man. You ever seen ever going to band practice and watch those guys go over songs, sure hasn't way harder than being a comedian. I get them up compared to being an athlete like at like like look at Jay Z, one have tits down to his ankles and eat hamburgers all day. He You can still make great music, like this one. Maybe but you can't here's the thing about being a fat fuck, you can get famous being a fat fuck,
people will love you as a fat fuck like biggie, but you can't start out like Snoop Dogg and then look like Bing blow up. You can't do that. Then you Loser. Well, You know, I'm saying I see what you're saying we can't have evidence that you used to be healthy and then you're unhealthy can celebrate that. That's. What is this rules? This rule perception the guy who doesn't give a fuck is never given a fuck. That's why he's always been fat? Big he's always been fed. Lucy many seventeens rap on the corner. Yeah he's he's a fat days of the yeah he's, never watch what he ate not a day, not a moment in his life. True to you, I just think we should need that. That is the thing. That's him! That's him, but if you look like to block all six pack down, and then you became like biggie now, but what what uh job- and I think this is why I'm obsessed with musicians- it's uh, it's something! It's so something I don't understand. It's the uh unknown to me right, like any any athletic endeavour, whatever I get it hard work, talent, but musicians.
So in this kind of outer space, because I've never been musically gifted ever I don't get any of it. So when I watch them what other job Can you, like you, see like Amy Winehouse, and these are terrible examples with Kurt Cobain, just fucked up get on stage and just kill it. You know, I'm saying they've been doing it so long, though it's like a part of their memory, you know they just know how to do it. Know how to do those songs and they get in there and they get in the groovin. The music hit some and they just go with it, and I think that her along, pyramid by her own thing done stuff has some magical properties when it comes to music. I don't wreck I'm doing it and I don't think that's the only way to make great music. I think it's probably some Saiful safer alternatives that also get you to a great place, but there's so many people that did heroin that made insane music man, so many ton so men and what Amy Winehouse apparently was booze was the one that killed her booze was big. Did you see
documentary aiming man that shit is amazing, amazing, that's a real bummer man super bummed, 'cause. She finally kind of get sober. I mean this, isn't a fucking spoiler alert? She everyone knows she's dead, but she finally gets. Sober and she's kind of doing right, the right things and then her manager and dad or like Younique, go back on tour and she's like I'm telling? This is a bad idea. Man 'cause, when I'm tours. When I want to use 'cause, I hate being away they put on tour and that's what did so they did. They say she need to go on tour because she needed money. Is that what it was? No, she just had prior commitments. I, like you put on and that's when she goes on. I think it's Germany or she's, just so fucked up falls off stage and shake forgets the words and they start booing her self sabotage yeah. It was horrible minutes, so tough to watch, we know it's interesting. We had Steve O on the podcast and Stevo went through a pretty lengthy detoxification sort of thing. You know he got. It got sober, and then he went through this like lengthy rehab and like at a
with in place, and he went into great detail about it and about how long it took him till he was, like legitimately sober like confident had a good foundation. He was like legit really sober, and now he tours and does all these kinds of things, which is crazy still does that sober yeah like to inflict that pain when he's dead? Sober now to me is crazy, is out of his mind is definitely I was one, but he when he's doing all this, you know he's he's like confident is not gonna start using again I think when you like someone like Amy and you just clear of it and then the pressure of doing those performances is the temptation right like you, just can't be around it like like, Evil does even drink right. He won't do anything, it doesn't if he does nothing, nothing, and I think that's how how could be. I don't know him, I think get their own thing. I know dudes have had problems with booze and then the the booze and then they'll start smoking weed one day and then like I can handle this. Like I have friends like
and I know why, like Anthony Bourdain is famously had a problem with heroin, but he drinks, he drinks, let loves weed and he fine he's fine, he was not even remotely an alcoholic he doesn't drink when he's in home, like you could say he enjoys alcoholism, outlays and alcohol enthusiest big difference, though it doesn't feel it around the physical diction, yeah big difference. He talks about how it when he's home he doesn't drink, just doesn't drink. You know he doesn't need it. That's crazy discipline. I don't think it's discipline. I really, I think, there's most certainly is discipline that he chooses not to, but it's also an ethic, but it's also, I think, we're talking about like a physical need like a physical addiction, and he doesn't have that. Which some people do, though some people do, they get a little bit of alcohol in a man in their fucked and they can't really can't stop picking function. I've met him. I know it's true. I know people I've met people like that. Rather I know it's true. I know they do it. Do you see if you have an addictive personality, now boo
is now not at all. What about marijuana? No, neither one now I can It's stop right now why I enjoy them. I enjoy big difference like if I go on vacation. I don't take weed with me. If I go away, I'm with my family most of the time, I don't take shit with me, sometimes I'll take I got breath strip for the flight or, if I get crazy, idea, and I have to write something down their bodies, asleep pop up breath, strip, yeah, nothing wrong with journey on a little journey, get creative men, but I just say, you're addicted to work, though there's different kind of addictions. You know I'm saying definitely not really no joke to the hard working guy enough, but I enjoy it. I get that, but it's not addictive. Like I quit, I quit all of it except comedy. I think I mean I could do that too. I could quit that that would bum me out comedy is the most fun. But everything else, even the most fun aspects of it. I could walk away from like like what's the most fun aspect about the UFC is actually watching the fights one hundred percent is not working. That's not the most fun aspect of it.
It's been literally the best seat in the house watching the best fighters in the world. That is the best part of it, but the talking part, actually is it less enjoyable. The working part makes the fights less enjoyable. I bet then, like I, enjoy the fights more when we're doing these fight companions than any, The time me too, we're all hang in or what and we're we're broadcasting to this, like this extra element because is going out two, we know people are laughing with us for shipment yeah, but the one that whenever I go to the fight when I'm physically there, I don't have as good of a time. I think for me, because you know I been in there? I get these nerves in this stress, and so for me. I don't enjoy it so like this weekend. I can't tell you how many times when I was at fox I'll see you at the fact I won't be there, my brother rather stay here and watch it well deserved think about watching at home. You get the perfect ANG rules, you're, seeing it from inside the cage, whereas from outside the cage. You look.
Through the fence and that's people. You don't consider that until you go there, you go. You got to look through the fence to see the fights like I've seen some of the greatest fights of all time. Up close, but through a fence, Where is a lot of people that are watching it at home like this there's a thing you have to do when you're, looking through a fence you're, not focusing on the things closest to your focusing on the thing: that's passed you so you always have this peripheral distraction. That fence is always going to be. There will be cake side, isn't the best seat, it's the most expensive, so right house, but really it's almost. You also mean that that first middle tier- yes, you can have this view so you're over the cage that access on a percent and that's especially for boxing hundred percent for bob- boxing has a way better viewing position than the UFC because the rain things are low and you can see every punch that lands. The face like super clearly is never an obstruction, whereas even me, being right there at the desk, if someone's,
find a post like you'll see me. Sometimes I have to get on top of the table. Yeah I get up. A table, and I'm like looking here to make sure like if I need to know if I could camera is not showing me where hand position is, if someone's going for a Gia Tien, I don't know if they have their hands class or something I have to physically get up and move sometimes. But I'm fucking right there You know when you're at home, there's you watching that shit clean and sometimes I feel like when you're at home, you again those best angles. It makes the fight, even if it was a phenom, a fight that much more epic, because yeah are seen it. You know like when your person kind of hard to kind of breakdown what you've actually seen yeah. I see it clear on camera in there doing the replays you like holy shit, and you hear it better. You you're better percentage. You got a microphone inside the cage, so you hear those wack you play some shots, sometimes like we're going to play this back, and so you can hear it. So you get here a slamming into someone's ribs
did. That is a knockout in Australia. That front kick to the body. He shot, this perfect front kick to the body and the dude just went Peter Sobotta like he made this like, like you can hear it can do nothing. He could do, but you hear the slap of the ball of but just slamming into that dude's body was like a perfect front. Kick Talon Oak looks great, that's the thing, a lot, those shots. When can yeah especially heavyweight oh yeah, you're, not going to hear them that good inside the actual rein itself, there's so much crowd. Noise is like in less you're right there, it's hard to hear here. I give you even when you're on the first year, it's hard to hear the impact with everybody yelling and all that screen. Yeah. I don't know when I'll go to another live event. For me, it's too stressful in football games to from to go to, but not for the UFC, it's just so intense and for me and give me these nerves being right back there even hotel. I hate stay in hotels because of the stress of fight week. Why I hate it
town. When can I go on the road? I was like for an error being Bi House, because I hate hotels. Why do I get super stressed getting side not but not run oh you're, on vacation with me now or I really don't. I know it's an issue, that's funny. I know man, that's a weird issue. Yeah, it is the Think about being there live, though, is the energycap in the room that you get words like it feels like history like there's been some fight where I was at all, I was like taking it on like wow. I just went in some history when Weidman knocked out Anderson. I remember when, like when Anderson went down a wide nose, just playing basketball with his head by Bomba, Bomba, Bomba and, and it was sinking in oh my God, Anderson is fucking out cold. This is real, Didn't seem real until you know when like something that's truly spectacular, like that happens, it almost doesn't see.
Real, as it's going on, looks like a video game yeah well, especially because Anderson had beaten everybody for so long. We had got it in our head that Anderson wins Anderson. Everybody Anderson beat Stephan Bonner. It looked like he was, the shell signing throws up the triangle, and catches am Anderson This guy interested knocks out vetoed the front kick, and then you see that Chris Weidman left hooked, his Bing just crank on his chin and then he, the Anderson's eyes roll. I can you let your brain is trying to process it like in my seeing this year. This is real and then is down, and I'm like an arm or whatever noises I make like and then why do is on top of a bowl bomb bomb and they stop. The fight. So, oh my god, like you, just realized. I just see this. I think there's there's no other live sporting event better than a good, solid, UFC fight. I should know better live event like this week,
USC one hundred and ninety four. Obviously it's sold out, but that will be the best live event to go to yeah, there's not far, there's nothing not from now. On other end of that, if it's a sleeper, if it's a rough night, it is the worst event to go to. Is there all right decisions like all in there it's a long night, it gets really boring. They can get boring yes, but I mean I like anything, but it's tough man. You know what I think is a tough thing when they have fights in high altitude. You know like, unless you got all Cala Rado, guys in Albuquerque, guys and they're fighting in Denver like she, Batman who the fuck thought to put Mark Hunt Ben Rothwell in Denver like you're, not signing up for Denver and then how about this? They detonate go put mark hunt with Fabricio in Mexico City, which is two thousand feet above denval. Any given, like a six day notice three hundred pounds and he almost one to talk about that. Well,
warrior dad came out in the first round, almost one. You know and then comes out in a steep ameo, chick fight out of shape. You know kids beating down and find, and then my God shape it didn't have to cut any weight at all to make two hundred and sixty five, although I saw they just announced over Doom Kane February. Percent yes Super Bowl weekend. That's when He does all gambling look at him. A football and looked at crazy gets screwed definition that is the biggest sure I couldn't imagine it being anywhere else? A fight like that? That's a big fight, there's going to be a lot of bedding and less it's in Brazil. Don't don't funny Dick Kane to make him go to Brazil Let's keep him in Vegas, listen. Man, Kane is one of my favorite all time fighters, however, he's not the champ anymore. The champ is for breezy over doom and if Fabricio overdoing wants a fight in Brazil and what is his own,
I have one fucking title fight ever, who knows: hey homeboys doesn't work like that ass Holly Holm out is to being champ. They said: hey real, quick, just to remind you, ain't shit, you're, going to right when Rhonda's ready, so we're going to do it in July? How rude tell me about it? check his decision, I'm just saying the champ really a lot of times and less named Conor Mcgregor, Rhonda Rowsey, you don't have shit say well. It is such a different scenario than it is in boxing, but in boxing are some parallels like you saw Tyson Fury beat Vladimir Klitschko. Did you see that boo Tsar fight like pizza, shit out of 'em, but Glad Amere Klitschko forgot how to box. He I think age caught up with them. We think that's overnight. He look like pure was in Tyson's. Tough. The fight is tough, who is undefeated he's not but he's, but yet you, defeat he's taller than Mitch go very awkward. He didn't really respect him he's playing these games. I don't know it looks like something is wrong with clutch goes right hand did it, he didn't throw anything. He threw nothing. I think he's worried
He couldn't get the shit talking. I think the shit talking got to him. The guy constantly talk shit, fuck, but this emotions, you know, and I think he got well wound up tight. I think that's a big big issue with fighters. Big is she even with Klitschko, though, he's been through the ringer, whose last ten years doesn't matter that kind of shit talking and kind of disrespectful shit talking. The boys still gets to blocked Saturday. All those are different. Guy 'cause, I think all day Let's go yes, you're talking about olympic Gold, medalist, yes, but Klitschko has been a guy that they have labeled as a guy who has issues with mental toughness, he got knocked out by Corey what the fucks his name was: Corey Anderson, what that was not not Corey Anderson, the south african guy knocked him out and then Lamont Brewster now email to Bruce, and you know you guys were saying like that. He had issues with mental toughness. That was the rap on it. This is not my opinion. This is this is like the box. Insiders at knew him from the gym would say these things, and that was
one of the things that they brought up in this fight. That type fewer e believed from talking to peep. Will that trained with Klitschko to manual with Emmanuel Stewart that Klitschko could be broken and he could be bullied. He could be fucked with you can get inside his head. You know it's been interesting, no need to do it for ten years, I mean you, look great jab, both these boys and he fights tonight that Anthony Joshua Guy. For me, I'm telling you bad. Did you look this kid? I did. He looks terrifying dog and you know everybody's duck and Shannon Briggs earlier. They don't want. None of that. I mean he's older, but yeah he's a loser. He forty three years old, but he is still still packing some serious fucking power under but he's got it he's got a Wicked left hook to the body. He's got skillful like skillful deliver punches that is unparalleled in that division. I think, if you watch the way he delivers combinations he can deliver.
Twelve vicious left hook to the body that there's not a lot of guys in their division could do it no crap. I know it's hard to sell a forty three year old yeah. It is being your chain, Corey Sanders, that's what is thank you pull up the last fight and in Briggs last fight dude he's fighting who does not deserve to be in the ring with the rise of former world champion and a one time is like one of the the biggest prospects in the head with yeah, but he has his do with a one two. A gentle one two, and that just pop some on the left hook left took the different goals. His body just crumbles. That's the way He delivers it like. There's a fluidity to his left. Look like Nicky Holzken, you ever see, Nikki hold control that left hook old are the best laptop in the world. That left hook is a God. Damn thing of beauty from the Heavens, it's the way Nikki frozen, two! It's like he gets you thinking about these head which is, and that's not just snow
accident like white in the park in that liver shot? You know they not to go back then, but you know they took Tyson fury style away because my son is going to say yes, I was going to say like in MA. You can't really look at it that way. Watch well. I guess we're going to see. Replay exists, but why don't you bring it back to the beginning? Jamie should watch for the beginning who breaks this Jackson. Why can. We go to the beginning of the video. Just go all the way to the beginning. They go right to the beginning, but look at this and that's it it's exactly what I was looking for. Do that again play it again, play it again, but but just watch the fluidity pop up watch this come on Son nasty pop pop and then that left hook so the arm who box like him in the heavyweight division. I would say it one more time, getting from the beginning. Look at that. You know the whipping fluidity to his punches. You know, like he's, not like this real refined style of a punch
he's going to struggle with a younger guy like that duck, Joshuah Dante Wilder, that's not gonna sit there. That's true! going to push a heart pacer going to get this very guys fighting got. He got straight off the bus and look at this yeah, that's nasty but you know he had a hard time with Vitali Klitschko. Vitali Klitschko beat him up, but I don't know if he working is hard back then, as he was now he's sort of like a reborn. He want kind of a guy. You know in for him and he's got all these motivational videos online. To like he's an interesting guy. I am too me too. I want to see him get a shot before he's too old. Twenty three tough man, dude, sperm and Tyson fury would be some wild shit that would be awhile despite him and Dante Wilder would be another wild fight. Dude I'm trying to deontay wilder in the Joshua yeah they'll be interested to fight, but boxing meant not the right in its it takes for ever for anything to work out. Did you see canal operas? Yes, Yokota? How good Alvarez looked Jesus Christ? He,
good good. He looked good to me he's not the Savior, like he's, not the mexican Savior that we're all looking for. He could not not yet he got it yet. I should, if I'm, he was better bump Kanellos camp you're, not fighting triple g. Next, we're not doing that. That's a bad idea as a family fuck you right. You know what the problem the triple g fight is as as like. If I was a promoter, I would that guy only sold. One hundred and forty five thousand paper views in his last fight, like nobody knows who the fuck he is he's dangerous foods. Dangerous is, You can, if you're going to have that fight. That should be maximized. I agree when Floyd in many they almost missed the boat right Floyd or well. They missed the boat. Well, they kind of did, but they still, they still hit it. Pretty god. Damn hard is the biggest fight ever w big, I'm just saying it could have been bigger if that at two years ago they got lucky, they pulled it back once many came back and won some fight through and look really good. But if you look at that vision right now. You know like if you look at like.
If you like, Canelo's fight with Floyd, you know that was like a good fight. Can old to learn. He's like uh. The young he's try. Figure it too much for him too much more mainstream now. But if you look at like Gennady Golovkin is a totally kind of a guy he's like he's a dangerous he's right now, he's rated GO yeah, he's ready to fight anyone the world and beat him right now. Can l is not at that stage? He might be, though I think yeah after being older code, oh yeah, but he look good. He looked good. He was showing off kind of skills that he hadn't shown before that counter uppercut snow who is doing a lot of stuff looked amazing, any fucking hits hard. He scared guys because he doesn't draw a lot of half speed stuff. He does a lot of stuff yeah, it's just it's an assault. You know, and you feel that, like that pressure right off the beginning, like he put this pressure on code, oh and that pressure is always there, it's a part of the fight. It's like his power and his presence
there, an added element that that has to consider that he didn't have to consider with code like with code zero. He had a minus peas and queues. He had a huge good defense and he had to be here to stay on a, but he's really only deal with a left hook. Coto really never hurts guys that bat was right. Hand him, but he has been very. Very nasty left took, but he's really been fighting smaller guys, you say, he's a lot smaller, yet coatis thing, even if use landing canal that respect you just walk through it canals like probably a buck. Seventy, when he's walking around tiny I've done stuff. I've done in a lower koto total total Jenny. So because you have done campaigns, look down here is tiny. What is like? Five, fifty five thousand six hundred and fifty six pro anyway, maybe one hundred and fifty five in shape, yes, yeah and Canelo cuts down, and then probably
it's in the five one. Seven is right is a big boy, big boy! Thank you for that week and that's why Floyd wanted a catchweight fight with him frantically yeah and that's why they did a catch weight with code on canal. Yes, see we got a week in that kid. You know we we can to get him down there, so you, but I the the the thing I do like about boxes by the time these guys reach their potential they've had like twenty or thirty fights. You know, I'm saying, like they've, had a lot of experience. They're ready for that next step, exactly in the UFC, we don't have, that are exactly I just don't have that and I click it page in rose rose. I think, is what three and two or some shit like them and their headline yeah: it's tough man, Well, that's also. The women's division is a little bit less experienced, not a little a lot less parents in the men's division, there's that that's a bad example, but like at least age northcutt, like I mean I'll talk about a mismatch, this fight tonight. How dare you How is either his mom's had no deers parents, or why am I know sage is going to kick his head off?
I mean I find is Taylor made form will see, but but I'm just saying it's a good. I'm not saying so to one of those Youtube videos, Cody Pfister on top ground and show out in the 32nd jobs like fuck me? Oh, I know right there you go shot way to go. You sure, you're talking shit, you don't call the Ronda fight either. I'm just saying I like this step for sage right, like it's a good progression in his career, he's in a deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, changing his toys in Schey, word jacked and shredded 'cause he's like some new thing. He doesn't have any fat his. You're fat- and he saw that healthy, I gotta think there, like some fat, is probably good for your body, but it's good for cardio TIA. Yeah, it's good for your cardio. It's also like, depending on what your body is using for fuel truck. What are you using for fuels your body using fat, or is your body using glucose 'cause you're, not gay, in glucose in a five round fight. I look at this boy I
He looks like kitchen the lead singer of a boyish right now, somebody on the underground. I forget what the exact quote that he looks like I'm going to put you this 'cause. I don't have it in front of me, but they said something like he looked like a boy band fucked in America. Eagle, whoever that isn't sure that I'm sorry I didn't give you credit, It's just shredded said something like someone from Nsync fucked on American Eagle yeah, it's true yeah yeah. I mean I told you, I mean Fox. How long do you think he can keep pussy away? 'cause? It's got be like a swarm of malaria. Ridden mosquitoes flying in his health. Tell think about every fucking twat. Every girl wants to get with anything he's at Texas. Ami, don't know if you ever seen. Those smoke shows at text saying this is my favorite girls, but the bass, lesson them and Australians the Australian go wild. I just feel like homeboy.
Can I have to break at some point, but you know it's weird is: do you see the article on his dad? I heard, but I do I didn't bother digging in excel figured. You know. One only want to read this. I mean it's just his dad has apparently a dark path that has nothing to do with him. They just assume that his dad has this weird past that sages on some shit. I don't think so, the kids two billion. Actually, what is the path path? I think you, the prison like for ten plus years for selling steroids and other stuff and cocaine right. Yes, yeah. Well, that's a good combination, if you want to be really angry and strong special for him, especially in pride. It's a hell of a drug. I think you win a belt yeah. I hope it doesn't have anything to do with him. I hope it's now. It's rob sure come on he's. Just a freak man could be well he's also been training, since he was five and here's the thing about stereo you need a lot more than that to look like that to be, I have since genetics, it's genetics, an it's insane work
there's no way around it. I'd say more genetics in any one hundred percent his age. Imagine it's a strict diet for the majority of his life, I mean he's been eating, like Lean Chikin and like he details like what he eats it yeah I mean he's in college too. So I'm sure after this fight he's fucking his balls deep in chipotle. I don't think yes, man, you don't think so. I think he's one of those guys. Those guys are tough to hang. Those are scary. Well, look at him. He's got this like fucking glow this like yeah, everything is amazing. You know just you still coming like you would like here. No idea he's never seen anything dark in his life. Did you see him dead, lift some dark shit, five hundred pounds or some shit? Does he really like looks he's, like hey everybody, just like Jesus said down. While we were waiting for these guys to start showing up these guys who's, who have been a project by some overzealous father who has a martial arts background and attacks tickets, yeah maybe did in the 80s get apple in the 90s when the tab I'll start,
We had about sharing like ninety eight I'll, accept it and he's watching just rich What is that there just look at him. Look he's like hey there. You go there. You check this out everyone, but Junior yeah. That's really lifted five hundred pounds like it's. Not to do. So. I don't know how much that is. It looks like a shit load, though that's a lot of weight. I don't know what is that girl sticking her ass out HO leeches? oh yeah, that's a strong fucker he's uh. Definitely talented. He's got a lot of tech, six two and he's really good at transitioning between striking and grappling, but I was going to say we're we we we circuitous route. Is that unlike Michael Holly Home, is not in a position like a Tyson furious or Tyson fury can say fuck it. I don't want. To fight this Russian on put on. Let me finish: he, He can say Tyson fury could say I don't want to fight this rush. To do they will fuck was tripping you the title he's like whatever bitch. I know, I'm still the champ
everybody knows on the champ. I just beat Vladimir Klitschko FUCK, you like he can do that and get away with it and he can go to Bob Arum or he can go to top. You know golden boy or the money team yeah I mean there's all these different promoter, Floyd Mayweather, should nominate, is also different promoters still put on excellent fights that are being paper view. Events that h b o can show that's the difference with the US see it's the UFC there's one game in town. So if Holly Holm says you know what I'm not waiting for Ronda Rousey, fighting, Miesha Tate put the fucking fight together can't do it is I disagree, but this is what I'm saying I wish degree. How can she say? Listen if you don't give me a fight before then come. Will I I'm not doing shit and your biggest payday, I'm not doing anything. You can't do that. Got a contract, I'm sure she has a contract and I can't find her. I don't know what the can't It says when you're the champion. Do you.
I would assume that it, it says something they they must have to get it in writing in some way that you're obligated to defend your title against challenger of their choosing. I assume. Okay, if I was gonna run, A promotion! That's fine! I'm just saying if, if, if let's say, if I John Jones or Femme right right, look at Rondo's call the shots. My man- I don't know if you guys, really run this basic, listen. I have this movie here. I need to fight here. That's how this is going down. Okay, let me correct, I I'm a lawyer and I'm saying with Holly. Let me correct you guys. This is not that's! How it's gonna what's going on is a number the number it's two hundred you C200. We want to make it the biggest fucking. UFC, the world is ever known there already advertising it. Ok you'll see these big like big image. Is it just comes on July, two thousand and sixteen UFC, two hundred there's no other number hold on there's no other number. That's like that that they're looking towards this thing, then there's uh
this gigantic arena. That's opening up in Vegas in April, so they know that we're going to do it and they know they're going do it in July, so this is what's motivating now you get that Joe. If you don't think that they are the ones that are guiding this to July and not Rhonda guarantee Now I'm not saying that I'm saying previously before RON has been able to with movies everything. Does she fights yeah? Well now, now that no not now, this is whatever. I don't know what how how we for jaws my support with this. Now, no I'm just saying if I'm Holly, she has more power than she thinks yes, and no, because someone was out that long, because the long time you know I'm saying in, but that, but from a business standpoint I would Dana White that that fight has happened. You can't have Polly fighting. One else see I disagree. Yep yeah! I just tell what tell me pay per views. Holly, verse, Misha cells, okay, listen! First of all! This is what I think is my personal opinion. All right is just is just opinions yeah,
I think you're crazy to not have more than one superstar. Okay, and I think Holly has a legit possibility of being a superstar legit cias everything going for she's, a preacher's daughter. She is very well, broken she's, very calm and she's got a great personality and she's sweet and people root for her and in the face of all the craziness in the trash talking the media obligations and the pressure she showed character and she never cracked and when she got in there, she performed like a world last fighter became the new champion? That's a potential superstar! Ok, we're sure! And if we he's going to be out for this long amount of time. Why Russia? Why why mean, if July, ok you're talking about July right, we're in December January February March April May June July, seven months, she just said in an interview that she's not going to eat an apple for six months, forget about taking impact. So how is that going to happen in July and have her be at our optimum? How is it going to happen,
I don't know, use the digital I'm session number. I don't know what that I don't know who's for. I'm talk to anybody. I don't know, but this is one of my personal opinion. Okay, Holly Home could be a monster, she could be a monster and if she could be a monster on the level of any champion in combat sports any champion in the UFC, she can, if Holly Home just goes to dominate the way Rhonda dominating, and we all know that she not gone down. If she gets in there and fights fill in the blank filling water, Girls name. We should head kicks her into oblivion. On television, everybody like holy shit, we got a new one. Rhonda didn't become I'm Rhonda immediately. It became Rhonda with a series of spectacular victory through Holly Holm strings. A few of those together. You've got another gigantic dynamo, then, when Rhonda's ready to come back and she's one hundred percent healed and healthy and is made some corrections and really worked on fixing whatever polls were exposed during her game, then you
this moment monumental, fuckin superfight an if Michelle wins, then you've got a crazy, fucking, love triangle. You know this and this all sounds great. I'm saying no is this all sounds great in less hall and Misha fight or Holly fight Cyborg and she loses your biggest payday goes outside works out the window 'cause she now, since she says she's not going to make one hundred and thirty five fuck it fuck it. Let's just Lucas little Say: Mischa Mischa Mischa wins. If Misha beats Holly home, and then me. She wants to fight round Rhonda again you're good you're, crazy. What the fuck, what she did. She talk to fight standing out strike. Sir, did you thought twice? true, you tell me that you tell me it's going to break records. Miesha Tate might be an interesting fight. No, I didn't ask that you could be induced in Frank records. I don't know if it'll break record, something that breaks record is Holly. Yes, Holly RON. Does your money, fight but if Holly, I think the long game is if Holly gets even better. If she
It gets even more recognition and Rhonda fully heals up, and you also, a chance for me should take to take that taught you what you want to risk, but I think even if me should take, beats Holly and they have a three real rematch between five round main event. Rematch non title fight of me: she's got the strap and Holly and Ronda go out in a five rounder. That shit would still be bananas gigantic. I agree I had everybody makes money, you get more superstar get the more more like high level like mark key matchups more. If you don't. You think that, because I don't think runs past three or four fights left inner, so this whole round Robin you say that, because she's and if I lose to Holly, I'm going to retire. So by even saying, if I fight hauling, I lose I'm going to retire. She said that she said that move in a recent intervention shoes. If I were to lose to Holly, I'm done I retire, I'm not making that up. So
when as soon as someone says, if this were to happen, I'm going to that means you're a thing about the end of the road. So what were going to be no round Robin. So the short game in the big payday in the short scheme is Ronda Holly. So I get the July wait. I'm just saying it. Sucks for Hawley I've only person that loses in this is Holly. I think I think July is going to be tricky if Rhonda's telling, if she's on it, or, if she's accurate, rather about how long going to take her to heal up will still ask she just got cleared just got cleared, but she also did an interview where she said: she's not gonna, be able to eat an apple. I know that's why I don't understand that slumps and she's. Also staying with forget his name now, fucking Homeboy Edmonds staying with Edmund too. So that's another thing, so she Jane with Edmund and this the issue? Do you think she should go? I have no idea. If I, if I had a plan, I would tell you Joe, but she has to get better and I think Everyone is doing a disservice, included Dana White, including admin saying you just. Have you been
busy. All this stress cause all it is Rhonda Rhonda Rhonda. Can we give Holly the credit thing all is just better man and for Rhonda beat her. She has to get. Pattern striking that the only way she's going to be there, if you think you can Peter by grappling you're full of shit? It's not going to happen. So the fight in july- and she soon a movie really she stayed with the same trainer. Why do you think the outcome is going to be different? Well, it could If all I disagree that she couldn't be there in grappling, I think it's very possible that she could catch it with something it's very possible. There could be a scramble sibulan. She can catch her one hundred percent, it's impossible. Why you say it's not, then I'm see the chances of her beating Holly, because their only chance to grapple right. Okay, so let's say that work again and we're back to stand up. Ok, so why would you think of continuing what you're doing it can be any different? But wouldn't you say she has a distinct advantage in grappling, if goes down there. If it goes down there right, but when you say that like has been grappling for a few years, one hundred percent he's never been taken down. Well, she was down,
is fight, but it was really she on top, she took she took run it down in the one time where Rhonda was going for the armbar runners on the bottom. But theoretically I mean at least, if you looked at the two of them in terms of just raw grappling, you would have to think that Rhonda's got a much higher level, one hundred per game, one hundred percent- if she didn't get tagged the she got tagged in that fight. It is a big if it's a giant if it's almost, if you take away, if you take away Haleys phenom, striking yeah. We then you don't know you don't have to take away or striking you just have to avoid it have to figure out a way to avoid it, and one of the ways to wood is not go ahead. On, like you look at the Cal Pennington Fight Rekal fought a much more conservative fight with Holly, and that was a precision. It's different demeanor come out foot work, angles, yeah, less aggressive. The thought well under got this fame is true, but but that doesn't mean anything it's like. What do you have to do to win? Forget about what got your famous? What do you? What's? The the best tactical
technical approach to fighting someone who is talented strikers Holly. Do you have that? Do you have that skill set in seven months? That's a good question: do you have the skill set to get great footwork avoid Holly ST, can get her down to the ground, and we know that there's only a couple ways to develop the kind of movement that she's going to have to get in one of those aspiring one hundred percent. Like you, have to spar so you're, going to have to be able to get hit, and if you have five six months, where you can't get it I mean. Who knows she I have over estimated that they might look look at it again, a couple months, my heel of quick, maybe this and things they can do to help it heal up. Who knows who knows who, if, if she said she was fine. Which is fine? Now it didn't have any teeth. Problems didn't have any that like how long do you think, She should wait before she starts getting hit after a vicious flatline head, kick knockout from one of the best kickboxers in the female
only division right? I mean that in a perfect world that she's, actually, let's call it the best between her and Jermaine Rhonda may yes, was a very outstanding, more Ty champion world multiple time world champion. She has been a successful in MMA, but she is a nasty surprise right. That was actually that's. Actually an interesting match up her and Holly Phenomenal match up. If more people knew who want to make is it would? It would be really be a very interesting fight to set up, but I think that man that level. The level of kickboxing is is very dangerous. Hurt her head kicks that she hides behind his punches. You go back and watch Holly's early fights. She gets those hands in front of you and that phenom left it comes out of nowhere in a perfect world, I would say, probably six months without any can't six months. Learning content can't do that, though. That's a smart move can't do that. If you write ins, zero seven months will should always be a perfect mood in in a perfect world in in shouldn't like if there's outside pressures, a little
outside pressure, they should stay just stop and think about what the fuck they're doing. I really, but that I should say I think they should make sure if, if Rhonda is going to perform at her best use, Have everything lined up, so you know she's good to go before any get set up, everything should be lined up. Yeah. I agree everything Randy lined up. There should be no and we're talking about a morass we haven't talked to Rhonda. We don't know we're, not idea. This is from information and data for people, Thomas I'm angry. I try to avoid this, but Do you see the other things done? The interview that she was out from the first punch, nine and see that, should she got cracked by that first punch and she's basically we had no record survival instincts just don't know, but is that? How does she know that? Here's the thing when you get head kick like that right, you for get a lot of things. Your memory becomes this weird blur of events,
it's very hard to discern exactly what things took place. In what order should head kick like that. I give you a you had fights like the bard Johnson, for example. Before What a fucking, scary, dude and you are super smart. You got it on that. Fuck you come down over and over again you controlled. You control the fight control the perfectly so you gotta fight with a perfect recollection of how it went down, but you've had fights before we after the fight like the Roy Nelson fight Roy Nelson CRO cop, even though I went broke up fight when I look back on like Watt, like someone kept so much tell me how I took him down I did. I don't remember that the Travis Brown fight, I thought it was the uppercut that really fucked me up, but it was when I went for. Take down his sprawling land on my neck after I remember that when I was really fucked up 'cause Atlanta, my neck and it rattled me so and that's how Tj Grant got his concussion so exact way, yeah not realize that, like you know, when two
guys, are, shooting won't go shooting for a takedown with the guys trying to defend that hip to the face a super comments yeah, I very rarely watch my fights back and then I watch this, the the the trust brown for a pilot. I don't know right after the fight and I watch and I'm not same guy who got on that old. You got routed out and then you go around again with the punch out yeah, because a one time after around me, then I I can I'd I'd, watch my movement and I'm I'm real slow and our whole game plan was to avoid getting back to the cage. I go straight back to the cage hands down all one. That's not we trained twelve weeks to avoid the hey right, Rama Man, Helm's drumming. So a perfect world Rhonda! It's it's it's six months in you know it's six months. I wonder what a neurologist would say me too. You know someone who really understands head trauma from like a physical like just to to to to, but just breaking it down to the actual physical components of the brew
main and all the connective tissue, and what kind of damage was done and look at it with an mri, and you find look for info nation and what are the issues? I agree I think uh the update? I tell you this, though, if there's anyone who can pull it out of her ass and get a win with that amount of time at six months with that schedule to Rhonda Rowsey with her tenacity, and everyone's saying: oh, she should've left the camp for her that that's fire for the fuel. So for her I think fuel. The fire fuel for the fire that she's going to she's, going to use that and really take it to another level, which is scary but same time. Is that the best way to go think so? It is interesting in the in UFC as opposed to other combat sports, where the another convex combat sports, the champion is in the driver seat like, Jones Junior when Roy. Junior was the champ of the world. There was for Joan show using the God Damn driver seat and everybody else. Just you gotta wait with your fucking
warm wet towel to wash his balls and someone else is gonna, be there with a towel to dry them off. Like is the void? junior, show, okay, whoever wants it. Is it HBO the pay per view with their want to see Roy Jones. It's not the WBC Wbc, boxing it. He could have thrown those fucking Well, it's in the trash and fought everybody would still nobody would care. Nobody would. I think I think, I think, with Hall it's tough to she has this tremendous skill set and she's such a good person, but you know it's kind of like the Chris Weidman factor, so damn good, but now we see the Conor Mcgregor in the Rhonda Rowsey is like Hawley RON is on the hook and I took all the sea because I said I I don't think there's any other girl can carry a paper view main event like Rhonda right now. There's just not gonna happen, so I get all this heat and I know disagree a little bit. I got all the seat, but Hallie beat Rhonda Right Ollie's on top of the World Hall E on the front cover ESPN the magazine Hall,
not doing interviews like running, but it just happened. It just happened, I'm just saying yeah, but this is just just just happened. Holy is now the thing in me: she's the number one story. No, no! No! That's not true she's the number one no bra girl, no the grown knocked out. Ronda is the number one story: 'cause she's the winner of this. I disagree. I disagree You because she's the winner in this she's a successor, she might not be adaway. Mrs Rhonda, but she's got the momentum she's the winner, she's, the one right now, who is the champion she's the one night now that people like wow what a fucking perform by Holly Holm eyes are on her now as far as an actor in a fighter, I think all eyes are on Rhonda. Can't she bounce back from this. But it's gonna be right. All this stuff is going to be that there's way more than that RON, lost in that fight. Undertale. One holly is the story right now, she's the winner other than out so and Mcgregor an for the hardcore fans, Weidman and Rockhold
Holly Holm is the fucking story. She should. I agree she should be in my eyes, she's the story, I agree and she should get more notoriety than anyone right now. I think that an I think, if marketed correctly, she has the potential to be fucking gigantic and she big as Rhonda, is run his big. She is because she's an antagonist and is big issue because she's the person who says on that crazy shakes talks with girls are whales and she got that fucking, attitude about her and comes out to that Joan Jett Song and was beaten. Girls asses an was pulling it off, is that what it was check, check, check check when a Holly Holm comes along and shows you an alternative approach, an approach that ultimately is more successful against that one per. We have one fight another white, one fight between the two of them Holly's flawless, flawless performance.
Why doesn't make any sense I mean these? Are we do we have a limited amount of superstars? Is there a limited amount of female champs that become huge? I think no, I think how? Yes, all the ingredients- she's not this is talking to the same kind of star, because I doubt there will be as many people who hate her, but that hate also fueled payperview buys people that were happy when RON delost, there's all this extra rear. Lg tv shit, that's going on with Rhonda Rowsey and she crossed over to pop culture, so everyones chiming in just crossed over not like she became like this. Cultural icon globally she became a big and the first woman ever that was like this ass kicker, like that it looked like. He was never been one of those I agree, so only comes along is going to be a difference, get kind of start old. She can be a big star. I think, is going to be a big star. She's not gonna, be around should I I I don't know about that man. You might
hopefully, I'm wrong. My feeling wrong on my fear. I think Haleys, the greatest thing that happened in windows. Division in a law long long time but she's a great person, and if I had a daughter, I can point to hauling said that you can act like her. This is good and we can't say that for a very long time right, I agree one hundred percent she's a classic example of like an honorable, mixed martial arts competitors, what you want she's a true martial artist and she actually true champion. True pro, I think that with the right fights she could be gigantic. So this is her mainstream coming out party right. She knocks out Rhonda Rowsey. This giant upset this huge performance. She looks spectacular. This is a coming out party and she fight someone else. You don't necessarily have to have this rematch right away, and I think this also sets the seeds up for other people to get attention. Cat cingano, who knocked out Miesha Tate. Remember that fucking fight
can sing, Donald didn't charge after Rhonda like that, would have cat was able to stuff to take down turn that fight into a fucking brawl. Who knows what fight you missed out on because cat decided to throw a easy flying worst game plan of all time, and you see all she probably meant that to you one hundred percent. She would. She is a fucking bad ass, hell yeah, she grows up fat ass, super that fight with Miesha Tate when she hits her with that overhand elbow, walk, oh see, she's. I think in there also close in the women's division at one thirty five in Cali is going to struggle with Tate and cat. I think she's, the perfect Achilles heel for Rhonda. I think these other matchups are a lot tougher for them. Maybe and then sometimes that's interesting, something for styles make fights for us. The media needs a dominant champion. Men to be a superstar you need to be dominant
I don't know man, I think rivalries are great too sugary Leonard when he lost to Roberto Durand got even more famous and when they did it again in the rematch, the no MAS fight that fight was gigantic. No yeah, those guys are bad ass. I don't think cats in Ghana and you can computer cat and got on those guys. Resp. Actually, I agree just can't just skill wise center right, you run with the witch anomala fights were talking about moments in time where people are popular with their flags into the women's division rising at anyone. Technomic champ need Adonic with Holly goes out and face kick state in the first round then gets cat in Ghana and drops right. Now we fucking got some, but she lose it taste. Like I'm fucked now here's another thing and I hate to be the jinx here I hate to be the guy who talks about this, but for a girl like Rhonda. And who's going to go into movies and is going to you know, take off and become this she's fine either way, but is she because do
people want to see those movies the same way? They want to see those movies? when she was smashing Alexis Davis and arm Barring Miesha, Tate, knocking out baczko hey do Is there that same draw? Well I'll say this: I don't people are going to Rhonda Movies, 'cause she's, a phenomenal actress that make sense like I'm not want to see RON's most you got to see her. You got to see her act in this sheet is amazing. She is, here because she supposed Rhonda Rowsey because she supposedly the baddest woman on the planet. Yes now Holly home shuttered, yeah so now Holly is thought to be the baddest woman on the planet, correct, right, correct unless she fight cyborg if they figure out a catchweight fight. You know in MMA. That's really the big scary fight for her for sure you know, and she two fighter yeah. I just he's fine at one hundred and fifty two in boxing. You know how home she's she's gangster, but I mean I think other than what would you do if you were? If you were the promoter, let me ask you this:
What would you do if I'm doing away? Yes, Scrooge Mcduck. How you doing Bob Scrooge Mcduck Dana life. I fiery bath right now. By the way I say, Scrooge Mcduck's creates a Scrooge Mcduck like three or four times a week. Now, strictly because of you, he sent me this text the other day with a picture of Scrooge Mcduck sitting on a pile of gold, and I was just laughing laughing my love that character. If I'm Dana White I do exactly what he's doing. How much money do you need in the bank before you start looking at the long game? Well, cash cows, Rhonda Rowsey right, that's right, but I don't know how much the worst heat I'm I'm with you. Is he so close to Rhonda? Is he one these guys saying all you just need to fight again health get
healthy and you're in a beater and then he's thinking the long game there and then the third fight can be even bigger. Well, it could be that he has one hundred percent faith in her and he thinks that have Rhonda cuts. The distractions over life comes back in focused and attacks, and does the fight the correct way that she'll win, he could think and I think that's a bad way to think. I think, then you need to jump in line in your yes man, because someone is a sitter down. Listen. I just think we need to work on some things that should be the plant. His YO thing, like there's evidence of that like if you if you're going to look at a fight and you look at a result and you're, going to assess, what went wrong, what went right, what could be changed? What could be different, there's no evidence that she could have done it better. And what I mean is not that she couldn't have fought better. What I mean is that we don't have any evidence. Our own
evidence is rondas, past fights and Holly's past fights, so we can go off of the evidence of the first fight that they had. Who is a domination by Holly, so there's no evidence that Rhonda could have done better. What you have to look at it technically, you have to look at. You have to look at the attacks, the interactions, the ICS changes right. So they have these exchanges inside the octagon in those exchanges, Holly all the answers. She had all the answers and she had the right strategy in the right movements and you saw her reacting to things that she knew were going to take place. The left hand goes for the clinch she's, moving it away, she's landing Countershot. She learns that beautiful counter straight left, throwing that oblique kick she's attack in the knee with that and then thigh without oblique kick. She does that thing fast, too. She and she's v, very agile. True, so you look at that. When you look at these interactions, you go well there's a lot of work to be done here. There's a
This is not just a simple a matter of summer in tired someone like you have to solve all pinkalicious giant technical issues, and so should you just chalk it up to you know what we just need to get your health, because you gotta do what you do. She does what she did and hopefully it's enough, if not either way to be payday. I think you give her time. I think you have to give her time Manny PAC, Gail got knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez. It's a mouthful when you got slaughtered coffee in your Juan Manuel Marquez knocks out Manny, Pacquiao and Freddie Roach says to him. You can't fight for a year or not doing nothing for a year. I want you to rest up That was a brutal night. I liked it. It is well look at Freddie, Roach, Freddie, Roach, as trauma related Parkinson's from his his career in boxing, I think, would did, is smart. It's ethical, it's intelligent and correct, and he did it. Because he's a guy who's experienced the effects of not doing that of being rattled in
by the age and he did it because he wanted the best result for many. So many comes back a year later doesn't look like he had any deal effects 'cause that knock. I look great because he fully healed. Now. Many guys are, we seen come back like Anderson Silva, gets knocked out by Chris Weidman, just brutally knocked out. Comes back and in the second fight gets dropped in the first round from a punch in the clinch, which you probably wouldn't have dropped him a few years look at Lee, Odem Cheetah yeah, exactly you get to a certain point when you've taken enough damage, where, if you don't allow your body to fully recover from that damage, you're going to have a diminished ability to absorb punishment. I'll tell you this man, I don't envy Dana White, I don't decision, I don't either he looked a hell of a job. I don't envy. He doesn't have time to have a perspective like you and I do either he got a I just fucking guy is forty seven making calls setting up meetings doing this fly in here. Doing this press
my friends and that and this thing, and that thing Dana White's life is fucking overwhelming for him. It's also a business too. Yes, he's what you got you and I are not trying to make money. We're looking at in terms of like ok, what is, what do you think is if you had to move all the pieces on the board in order to achieve checkmate in order to achieve the best results? What's the move What's the movie, what do you do? Just just go all in you know. Do I don't? I don't think you do. I don't think you do. I think you have to. Real careful when you also you have to be real careful. You have a big superstar right like Ronda, and your big superstar gets flatlined. Ok, okay, that is Prob. Really the worst result? If you want women to get in MMA, you want women to like come up. We want to have a lot more people that are really into fighting a lot more women that are into, and then you watch the number one woman to just and blasted into the middle of the universe. Okay, yeah tell Michael Chevelle says Astral traveling. That would be like to say I love Chevelle, oh so if that had
once again and she ate suffers like serious repercussions. Now you've got a real problem with your sport. Well now the stories over them, Where is over stories over yeah an you know, and I think the story doesn't have to be over. I think this is Obviously, there's some lessons to be learned from that fight right. Technically, strategy, wise the like, when you're home after a striker, you know sure in the reaction, the Publix I absolutely when you're chasing after a striker that shit is never a good idea, especially you have good head movement are chasing a straw, you're like holy, who so agile and you have knee problems so you're not most agile so you've got me on any problems you got a girl does flips at the end of every fight. At the end of every fight, she stands on our trainers, hands because MIKE Winkeljohn flips or through the air- and she goes flying like a fucking, Akron amazing and she never misses it. She nails it. She's am everytime amazing she's, an athlete just fucking super athlete. Just like RON
I'll. Go you one better. She might be a better athlete because if you look at her, she never gets out of shape. She's totally ripped she's, like her body, is optimized right. If you want to look at someone whose bodies optimized you would say: well, here's a girl who who has a minimal amount of body. Fat she's got a good amount of muscle like you could tell she works hard and he's in phenomenal shape the two of them fighting in the first round. Rhonda comes back, exhausted, Holly's, not they both thought. The same round. Ronda is exhausted. Hollies, not is it is the punishment she took that probably had something to do with it. It's also less you right, students also the way she fight? Yes, but that's a part of being an athlete. I agree, part of being an athlete is making smart choices. I agree, especially at combat sports athlete making smart choices and adjusting's life and death yes and adjust winner lose not yeah. Yeah may have just sing. Mid fight is, is and having off speed, different rhythm,
to rely upon rondas never have to make he's, she's never had to make those adjust exactly and then you gotta make him with a superior athlete. Exactly like a fuck exactly you know, I had a buddy, who wanted to do mma and uh, he is a brazilian Jiu Jitsu black pot, and he was we have very minimal striking training and we talked about it and I said: look dude. Do you know like what you can do to uh white belt? You know that feeling when you get in there and you roll with the guy, he's a white belt and you just fucking strangle am just rapm up strangling you. Do whatever you want somebody's going to do that to you with kickboxing editing, it's not fun at all, and you can't think that they don't know because, even though kickboxing I don't think there's the same. Bra oddness, that there isn't an jujitsu where I think Jujitsu Jitsu is almost like, never ending as far as techniques but kickboxing has so much depth like re well high level. Kickboxing is so much depth and there's so much show me very
those with guys who are really good, who have like very specific likes files and way to draw you in and they set traps for you and you think they're doing and they're doing that and they're setting up kicks with punches and punches with kicks, and you know there wrapping you and needing you an elbow knew in the fate there's so much going on man that if you think the year going to go in there with some bullshit guy who who the pads in in uses those for those pool, flowed ease, urinated taps your gloves unit yeah. Are you just I'm not you just have no idea what you can write to whistle very unsafe, very and say so you better be one of two things. You better be some fucking stud filled Davis type, all american wrestler, who could just pretty take down anybody in the division, so you get to dictate where the fight takes place or don't fight that guy learn how to fucking kick butt. The first man learned this is you're going to get Shin
and you get shamed in the head. That is one of the worst results you could ever have an mma ever. If so many arm bars you tap. If somebody chokes you out, you wake up, you wake up, and you know what happened: you're. Ok, you get fucking Gonzo, headed in the head hat Gonzaga, knockout, Crowe, cop or croak knocked out croak up, I mean you know, I think tonight or tomorrow night he's on this card. You know, I no idea. And no idea, no idea who is he fighting? He fighting some russian cat. Some yeah he's on the undercard. How crazy is that I was going through? like I'm, a ghost shit Gonzalez doing Damn thing is it tonight. Is he fighting tonight? Is that flight path, Christ? Where is it? I don't see it? I don't see it on the schedule. Oh no. Tomorrow. Okay, surprising, though right no idea, thirty, five fights in three days. What is going
And that was the idea behind that. I should probably ask I feel, like you know more than I should should not one. You know what's wrong with me. I don't know for sure just text Dana your return, my texts turn your text. None of us like a man with the fucking, thirty five fights bro. Why you guys do white guys fucking up so hard, but I think it's amazing. It's a Christmas weekend for fighters or for other fans, rather phenomenal, but nothing mattered, except for USC, one hundred and ninety four Constantine Eurocan yeah. Ok, that guys a beast: a big fucking, tough, russian guy. That's interesting fight mode Gonzaga, so scary. When saga I Gonzaga, going to do now. You know one of these just making a living or He wants to re assassin. I mean How old is he now I mean it doesn't said I like guns Agah though like,
this is thirty, five or thirty, six right this sucks to say, but it's like he's never to champion. That's not happening and you can say. Well, that's not necessarily true because look at what are you going to say mark on something like that? It's just tough man he's gonna have a hard time for sure. You boy Mitrione, look really good against him. You look great Mitch runs fast and that's the thing like Gonzaga, When he gets on the scale, you know five steps on the platform when he weighs in things made out of rock is so damn he's in the way he moves. Like Tom Thumb sold anthem, I can even Brock Lesnar didn't make that kind of noise. When he got onto this 'cause, I feel so dense before I fall in Anaheim uh. I, Milwaukee and by a man we're actual skin on the fires bus. I seem in Starbucks eating two glaze donuts
my mind. Doesn't god damn that's gangster doing human fuck? He doesn't give a fuck. It's not the right way to approach it, but respect bucket that Shane Carwin fight that fight oh, my god, he's got a whoopin Shane Shane Peacock he caught Shane and had him hurt and I moved in for the kill it changed. How I was like oh shit, then she got up and just do like this half ass kind of just like a flick of the wrist, just a little them out way. Through a right hand. It was such a little bitch right hand, yeah Shane, oh my god. He had so fucking hard yeah. There's like there's going to be a wave of those guys man, it's going to take a years. Maybe you know these elite wrestlers, that are coming up that are learning how to strike when they're in high school. You know in there Bing's, wrestlers and they're, going to make it in UFC, the next couple of years, especially as the money it's bigger, like there's. No money has to get bigger. You know, there's no,
that over doom is like a super, talented super skillful guy, but the public's consciousness, the awareness of him, is not nearly as high as it was when Kane beat Brock Lesnar. That was the height of the heavyweight division right. When you say weekend. I think it's mainly do because of Brock, because it came June. No Santos that was awesome to superior athletes going on it, but still not the same because of Brock. Yeah Brock brought some new element, the you know he brought the world wrestling payment people, but but I think, in order to get those those big boys, those freak athletes involved, the money would have to be outta come up after you get this football game or you know interested in giving it a shot? You know have a kid on the way and if anything like Brock Lesnar, that little bastard, not fighting. You better go get that money in baseball nfl. So would you worry bout NFL with head collisions and all that shit not as much as the juice is worth the squeeze? Not as much is fighting
is fighting I mean like, like I retired, I gotTA, Instagram Post, said and congrats and then like an email, you know in your city, you retire, and then I fell your time that a fellow you, you know you got some coming your way. So you, it's different, if you only have like a couple years in, if you have three half years or more, you get a stipend. Every month you have health insurance in real time, yeah you're pretty taken care of wow, that's nice! certain levels of certain degree, how much you played that's nice, yeah yeah that be ideal. If I just get there, you think so the us you get there they have to. They have to think so now that yeah, They know that I, this isn't a knock on Dana. Why or Lawrence or anything like that were just in the we basically have leather helmets on right now. You know I'm saying if know go back, if you commit to the NFL they're going to get there, they take all the seat, and even I give him but it's so new men they're trying their best this stuff does not happen overnight. Don't you think it almost has to pass through a few generations like maybe like what is
it's going be like fifty years from now and Anazon on around anymore When we're not around anymore. What is the sport going to be like then? Like? Maybe you know when you look back at football, footballs been around a long fucking time, a long, fucking time, and it slowly gotten. To this point I think MMA really needs right. Now is competition. They need a lot of competition and Bella Torres just you're not going to get there with about five thousand and Kimbo slice. Just like it's a good fight, it would be fun watch, I'm sure, hoist Gracie. This is KEN. Shamrock! Three look: legends they deserve. They deserve to fight. If they want to fight, they have earned it, and I know that something that can has alluded to. He said you know he he does. He earned his right to compete. I absolutely hundred percent Sota toys. Absolutely high percent they deserve the right to compete. But it's it's not this. Name is the UFC right now and until it becomes Until someone comes along and bike, the strike force,
I almost had it. You know they were. They were close before horses owned by the UFC, going on a land I'm doing well do some going on is like whoa. This is this, pretty God, damn good. It was pretty god damn good see. I think the you'll see it get there. We we just need time on our side. The struggle they're going to have is you know Nfl is dealing with a little bit now with a concussion stuff, Quinn, MA down the road, we can see the concussion. It's really been people in my dude. What are we doing and the pay is nowhere near. So when I see the NFL's work, the squeeze because you're taking care of compensation white so yeah you can have some fucked up knees and your brains can be oatmeal in the UFC I mean man, like I said you can email and a repost on Instagram, but don't you think that like then it's even more important to make sure that someone like Rowsey has enough time that Rhonda has enough time off to recuperate.
And you mitigate all potential problems that you could have with her getting knocked out again, one hundred percent. So I mean what, if this fight takes place and in the first round Holly just fuckin ready to run his jaw and she stiffens up and just false, back like Terry, Adam everyone, Terry Answer, we tried with that we'll kick you just stiffened an fell straight back bang the probability that happen are very hot, very high, but this is you have to realize if you've never been hit before when you get knocked out like that, you are not. You can't get hit for a long time. It's not the same, takes awhile before you build back the resistance to the to get to the point where you have like a baseline. You know your baseline is like how you are right now. If you get hit right now, like wow, that would hurt, but you'd be able to IBS or a much better shot than if you had just gotten a concussion of you just gotta Russian recently, and then you get hit again. Your brain is like whoa,
the friend we've seen it. We seen so many guys get knocked out and come back. A lot of lot tend to happen. I'm gonna get you off of a lot of times that happens in can't like before I bought Rothwell like weeks before Carmen me up man. I should it in. If I will was knowledgeable hi I am now I'm like do I I don't know if I should fight. This is not good. For my, you know back in the day. You know this is whatever three four years ago that I just more spawn your rest. Well, it's two weeks before the fight. That's really not enough time! It's not enough! So then he yummy Lanza Decent shot, but you know I've had way worse than clips minutes. You know it's tough man just shut. You off yeah, well Joe Duffy. How 'bout that a week before he was supposed to fight Dustin Pourrie, he gets knocked out in camp, gets a concussion and they have to pull him out. You know like see. That's why? Whenever mmm math people try saying well raw, cold, Machida, Machida, Weidman, Emory Math doesn't work for me because I know Machida was not ready to fight when he fought. I was in this camp here we're like dude. This is now,
I'm not sure we know so he goes in there. Destroys am gets clipped. You know it's the different Machida, so that doesn't work What was wrong with Machida any time off. His biggest issue is, is he like? He go right back to spark we're not talking like lights, boring and hit minutes? He goes right back to the dog days of sparring as soon as he's done so you know he's getting clipped. He was having a rough time and he's just wasn't ready to take that fight, so you were watching him train and you knew that some things up. I think everyone did really yeah and so now you know see stay. You know everyone's like dude. You need a break so he's taking a long time off. Then he fought Munoz. Where was that in England, so it was where is first fight at one hundred and eighty five. When he had kicked him, he looks sensation. They were training together too yeah. That's right, yeah, yeah as we all trained together in them. You know it's like dude, I gotta fight Machida and everyone's, like oh lock, but if you watch him from the
fight to like them a td. She. Now it's like man, little shopworn said tough fights were merit that happens yep that happened yeah yeah that happened in like, like, I think happen is Klitschko hate going back to box and I think it just whatever reason it happen. That just certain fight were like. Oh, my god, it's not the same guy yeah, I'll, fuck man and is it is. It no Jose always been undefeated. For ten years he's been through the ringer. He slept the best of the best to me his number one pound for there's. No one better. You look at his resume to me. His number fucking one now is Saturday night. The time where we seemed like constant same Jose. We've seen there there's going to come a day, there's going to be a fight and I see retires. I think that he is definitely the all time greats and, I think, he's definitely one of the best pound for pound fighters. In the world, but he doesn't fight. Do the same sort of dominance that mighty mouse does a key he'll beat like
Araya Faber down he crushed his leg and beat him down and uh knocked out Chad Mendes in their first fight. But if you look at like the Ricardo Lamas fight, llamas had him on his back in the fifth round, he's beating on him so Dominic so Dominic. He fades towards the end and if you look at fight with Chad, Mendes there's a fucking, very, very close fight that second phenomenal fight very close by. I think forty five more stack, then mighty mouse more stacked. Please fight uppercuts is certainly a good argument. However, John Dodson knock about Tj Dillashaw at one hundred and thirty five he's a fucking monster monster fast as shit super athletic and dangerous is fucking money mouse just shut him down. I agree I just think over ten years and he's fought the who's who in IBM jumps in such a subjective title that really, if you want to about pound for pound who's, going to rip everyone's Faceoffs Jon Jones, there's nothing better. Jones to ever enter the octagon he's learning to grab everyone rip their frickin face off. If
do you think the Powerpoint thing is going to fight heavyweight? Now one hundred percent We go in there he's going to fight DC and then like cool, let's fight, heavyweight, yeah wow, he said: Jack. What are we doing? He Sojat like has his shit together. You know that happens to people when they become like real technical and they're. You know they're strong, but in a grappling sense, and then they start lifting weights like they get only because now they have all this ability to do things from technique. That's backed up by all this horsepower like to Eddie. Bravo game changed so hard when he started lifting weights like there was like there's Eddie. Bravo pre weights and is Eddie. Bravo, post weights and they're told different day different. He was just a small guy who had really good technique and then We got to the point where he was left weights like a couple days. A week steady for year she wouldn't stop you just like I gotta get stronger he's like I'm just
battling in the gym constantly with these guys are bigger and stronger than me, and that is did you start put in mass on and he started getting really strong to go with that technique. He was just smashing diff animal see Shane Car myself a little different. We spent too much time in the weight room where she had been doing techniques right like running away from like spot each on the bench on my God, I feel like we should work on punching in Kettering is, like you think, I'm like well, you're huge is fine because it is, I don't think we get any better squatting of, especially if you fight a guy like Junior dos Santos, like Junior, couldn't lift nearly as much as Shane, but when they got in the cage together juniors light them up because it just lies, impact yeah. That's where technique comes into play. That's what it is! It's about getting hit you! What about a fight that should happen years ago does centers over him next week. When you think about the fine, I mean the centers with the new camp. They t t, so I think that's good it. Just this it should happen a year or two ago, so I don't think juniors over the same. I think after those 2k
losses and then, after that, steep a fight. What time files, brutal fight, so I don't know man yeah drug testing two hundred and five or room with you gonna look like right. There's a lot Oh yeah yeah you you making, though you know I said I was there it's face! Well, no, I'm just saying it might have been. Maybe he's not, but let's face you're making me my name, let's, let's say he's not right and and but let's all right now, let's say he he is. But then the street drug testing comes into play. We're talking about a different animal men right, oh yeah, completely different animal, not the same guy. That's an x factor for me that the huge expected it has to be but we don't know, we don't know what he was doing, what he wants speculation. One hundred percent have no idea because he never got tested positive for anything ever use the absolute animal.
Not that I could say that for anyone you go, you go through USC, one hundred and ninety four. You say that for a lot of guys, it's an act. Factor yeah, that's interesting man. We can't know you can't know who was on water who is on something and got cause no way unless people get caught yeah when they get, You know they always say. Oh you know I didn't know, some gaming is die, If there's ever been a guy with someone actually did give, they gave him a protein shake and he drank it. And they're like oh yo Dog got place terrorism that I did had multiplying. I thought this was chocolate. Wait na na may I put steroids in a real quick just for all this another. That's! Never! I think it's gotta happen once people are idiots, there's a lot and then they test positive yeah. I, like guys, like I, don't even know what I was taking. This guy was just giving injects in my ass. He told his vitamin c but if you were at a bad Jim and you hang around with a bunch of fucking morons and they want you to fail and there's dudes
to induce they'll put some juice in your protein drink. Here's this solution till anyway mix your protein drinks for special, some asshole doesn't really like you. I mean some crazy shit, but it has to be guy out there that actually did have someone drop a steroid in his protein drink, any pissed positive and he probably everybody like yeah, yeah, sure fucking. It actually did happen tell me some bird love earth. The US surprised you'd be failed. The steroid tests he be so freaked out, like a camp, leave the actual thing that everybody joke. About really did happen to me actually going Van that says: free candy really very that beach over God. Tomorrow is pretty good. There's a lot of good fights on this card, but the car
on Saturday is insane, but the one big fight that's on tomorrow- well, there's a couple big fights besides Frankie EDGAR and Chad Mendes, but Barboza Tony Ferguson, Motherfucker barbos on Tony Ferguson, Sun Woo. I love Ferguson in that fight. That's a crazy fight! Dude! That's a mother fucker! That is a crazy fight. I just think it's fair distance time and he so fucking good, dangerous, very dangerous, but so is Barboza. I agree. I just feel like Tony just hits like man he does. He does it's a very interesting fight, very interesting. He's gonna have to deal with those fucking leg kicks, though God Damn Barboza. I don't think it gets out of two rounds. I think Tony stops within two wow. I know right so much. I believe in Tony. I think I just think two thousand and sixteen is kind of the year of Tony Ferguson. At that way.
Long still right. Right now going on women, tell you what you're making predictions like you you're, making us Long prediction owns never sometimes it backfires Barboza monster. Monster that Paul Felder fight that switch kick today's landed, fell. Those ribs never say anything like it fastest. I've ever seen. I agree just never seen anything like it Think about like one hundred and ten pound tie guy, you know like you so is Moitie champions is flyweight. Dudes are just like lightning bolts. That's like what kind of speed he was dropping that switch kick in. I remember, like literally I was I had to like readjust my metric when I was judging it like watching. What's a fast kick and what's not a fast kick his It was so much faster than anybody else is that I had a to readjust like what I thought was a fast kick he's going to Lance close, I think Tony is going to counter and the night. Well Michael John Saint gave him a lot of pressure and Barboza had a real hard time with that. But correct me: if I'm
Long, I believe Barboza was traveling back and forth from Florida to New Jersey, Detroit underwear that was going on now. He lives down there correct that will make a big impact different animal and that's what we saw in the fight with Paul Felder. We saw like the best version of barbels we've ever seen the most focused the fastest the best prepared. If, if, if he's with more, can I'm telling you man, I spent maybe four weeks more Kenny, I've never seen anything like it it for what the reason- maybe just 'cause, he's Frank Eggers, guy and Edwin Barboza. He didn't get a lot of notoriety like fry great Jackson, I'm telling you man, it's something other level, shit man, really, I'm telling we worked
he's like. Let me see move around and he had this guy holdem it's from and he filled out a fucking notepad about six pages long front and back just all this shit and would just use obsessed with it. Texting me caught voice mails with where he's like just listen and you don't respond. Just listen is all these combos and it's a cold leaf. If, if someone can, if you settle in, you see Edwin Barboza, NEC Fricking, Frankie EDGAR, how how to these guys are, and now Chris Weidman brought More- can remain to help with the rock old fight really and that was the x factor for me. That's what pushed you over the top Weidman over Rockhold? It Dave and I thought Rockhold was gonna win earlier in the week Then an I've been listening and then Mark Henry said: he's working with wide Malakal hell, no release I was just mark. Can we come in as a trainer that made you switch over? I was this guy was this close? I was this close to picking Weidman Rakel and then just I don't know, I'm with
wow. That's interesting. That's out that shows you that's a pretty serious level of respect for Mark Henry up dude I've worked with for os and those are the best business listed Bowling, Greg Jackson, all these phenomenal coaches, Tony Jeffries. All these guys. I've never seen thing like Mark and the the amount of time as soon as he got hurt. He's on board of the fuck you're talking about another level, what do you think about his style as opposed the style that Bang is showing Tj Dillashaw, which is a lot of twitching of the stance, is a lot of variations in the approach in the attack where your silly overloading the mind. You never know what you guys going to do. What do you think of that? I think banks style works for one guy in the world for TJ,
I know, what it's doing for Danny to steal, Danielle Steele's, look for Conventus does not looking like TJ he's look is gathered and but for him well, first of all, they came in at different levels. Try, I agree, I'm just saying kicking wise. I agree he looks better, but I think for that massive style for what TJ does through the perfect combo. It does not get any better than that. So you think it's style makes trainer match up. Yes, yes, will it trying listenable, you won't be there. They find on Friday night you're not doing the fight, but if you can, Listen to Mark Henry. When he's coaching Frankie, she has a towel on he sweating and he's that they have different language every time they have different variables every time it's never same so that nobody could get it and we can get it its litter. Your video game, ABC Abc and doing the same. It's like a fucking video, Why I've never seen anything like it. Man, wow, very interesting, and he sees just a striking guy ranger striking so who'd
the transitions between striking in the grappling. How did they orchestrate that in the training yeah? I know why men to has Izle camp with Ray Longo, a man right there and all that, so they all come together in and then do I've. I've heard stories about. Why I mean I, I don't think people really realize how strong wide Minnesotan offered him just molly whopping heavy weights, just drawing dudes environment. When I braked on tape. He just says this x factor that don't think Luke has granted looks gone five rounds more. A lot of people don't realize that looks gone five rounds in Strikeforce Jacquerie TIM Kennedy beat both of 'em great grapplers, but I just think Wyden has this x factor that it's hard to gauge like can't put a number on it? If that makes sense, I know it sounds Rockhold think she's going to be able to stay on the outside and success, the way Anderson did in the first round. The first fight in Victor did in that opening flurry of that the fight they had and he thinks he's going to be. Damage there. If you look at that fight the victor
right where Victor had Weidman stun should he nailed him a couple of times and then Victor moved in for the kill, We just Didn'T- have the stamina. He did we just couldn't sustain it, and then he didn't have the defense in the ground. Weidman took him down just fucked him up misses a beat down as soon as Wyman shot that double gotta hold those legs tight. Dropped him down total control the ground and just beat the shit out of him. I don't think We'll do that the same way to rock cold, I think Rocco's be a much harder, gotta take down and a much harder gotta keep down. I think rock calls get away that a red in camp with DC and and Kane and Rock well just shown really good takedown defense in the past. I think it makes it makes it tricky. I think that fight get super interest. If Rockhold uses height and reach in kicking, he's really good kick keeps on the outside. When I will left what is his fucking background besides wrestling surfing but We learn how to kick really. He was
surfing in use do bullshit around. I know you did some judo when he was young, he never karate background or anything and then walked into a K. One is super young. How old was, I think, seventeen okay? so how there's been kind of coaching him from the beginning. So so I mean the rock called, I think it will get his kicks off and that the the them to to keep that distance. I just feel like Weidman's going to get him down and why this is the x factors. Weidman also is a phenominal grappler he's been trained with Marcelo Garcia. For ever I mean he's a stud on the ground. I think a Kays overlooking that. I think of about the striking. There were way about the pressure and all that they think Rocco thinks he's it down pop up, I get that Weidman's, a the fucker down there, the heat controlled Vittore Belfort on the ground, like building literally he's so having on top men, while Donna hers
his guy too and Donna hers the master he's a real wizard. That's uh he's so smart too he's a guy that when you have that guy in your corner, there's a distinctive. And engine comes a strategy and a few training with them on a regular basis like him, he doesn't, he doesn't make mistakes is not is not not make if he does make mistakes and assessment or execution, he knows what to do and when to do it, how to do it right? He just now This is not is not weighed down by the stupid ideas to me it it's. The best fight in middle weight, history to die size were in their prime, and I have no idea who's going. When I can see the guys find two or three times time of the trilogy. What it really all depends on the results of the first fight sure is like a lot of people thought that could have been the case with you, two on Weidman, but Weidman just smash them through. If Weidman can do that to rock cold, then the whole game changes, but if what do you think Weidman needs like a breakout performance in order to achieve like a higher level of stardom like something has to happen, even this
nice, how great he is so, let's say Weidman goes in. There knock some out in the first round, but then Conor Mcgregor goes Knox. Jose out out in three rounds were not timeout Weidman, he gets honey. Dicked again, you know, I'm saying he's honey. Dicked again. My bad dog maybe next time, 'cause we're not talking Weidman, it's true, all were time was Connor Aldo. That's all we're talking and it's all trash talk. It's the trash talk. The trash talk is uh on paper. Both of them are equally intriguing, but the trash talk of Connor has pushed the whole thing way over there top as far as like wanting to see it like wow, but it's kind of it's kind of calm down because of the injury in there, in this delay is one that wound toroids like holy fuck. This is insane too. I think Conor Mcgregor Mindfucked, Jose Aldo not really anymore. I don't know about all that. I don't think so. I don't think it's as bad this time. I think it's still on his head matter. We don't know what the reaction that is going to be some guys, the worksheet,
can do is get him riled up. Well, if you look at Judge Alice pass any time we got to bring the fight to him. He gets up yeah if Josie, although if it's super spectral- and he gets the head on you- he post he takes round Zafy coast, we've seen it man, but I think Conor Mcgregor's. He bit off all you can chew men, just Jose Aldo. When he's when you're bringing the fight to him, you get one hell with Jose Aldo. We look at Mendez, Jose two watt that's one of the greatest fights ever it's going to be interesting to see what approach, although takes 'cause would've, although comes out southpaw, then, check it's interesting 'cause. One of the benefits that Connor has it fight. Southpaw is a nasty right hand. True, he throws almost like painful half speed, kicks and uses your positioning. Judging you set up other things, and then he mixes those half speed kicks up with very fast technique. Spin kicks and things along those lines that front kick the body and then or like a disdainful roundhouse, kick almost like daring you to try to counter it, so they can look to drop that left hand in on you.
A lot of interesting shit as far as like varying rhythm in his approach in his movement is long wide stance. It's just a lot of shit, that's hard to judge, but if all Aldo immediately initiates grappling This is something that I don't think people have been thinking up, although there is a fucking nasty on the ground national champion, yeah he's like like he beat. Kolbrin and straight Jujitsu, okay. So, if all dojo, this clinches and rags that fight to the ground very early in the fight like we saw in the corner with Connor Chad, Mendes caught Chad, took him down and hell come down, was letting some nasty ground and pound with Essentia Lee know camp mean two weeks which it's like your weight, cutting. You know, you don't have any cardio, it's just like you're, not going to improve move in two weeks 'cause the last week is all just about recovery. Anyway, So he's got like seven days to workout for Connor for a fucking world title fight. While he's doing all this press right, all those good all the time in the world
your all time in the world and he is a monster on the ground. That's his background. Yeah back on is not striking. His background is Jujitsu yeah, so to me, and I you hit it right on the no one's talking about it, going to grapple him, because Connor is hard not specially early in the round he's doing all these weird angles. It's like fuck man wanting to do he's going to grapple. That's why and he's a star athlete to like a freak. He get a of you and drag. You drag you to the ground and all the sudden, you know he's got your back and can blasting you with punches and elbows. They could get real weird, because if I'm watching the the Mendes fight, if indeed it- I think those for that that for stress that first round minutes getting him down, Josie Camp is gone. Alright, this what we're gonna do and then let's get it get it stand. The third fourth fifth round look another way Connor. Comes in like a serpent with all this free movement. He apps, one of those fucking pissed and left hands in on Jose's chin. Then she
it's real, weird, real, quick that could happen to Lamb. He lands one of those fucking corkers on him and said talking shit to him and gets in from his face shows he's never been a fight at this magnet to never never with the shit talking to shit. Talking changes, eh doing so she's talking anymore, the all the eyes on this slide in the pressure he's been champ forever he's been under for ten years. He's never been this kind of fight. No, not even close he's got a lot of attention in Brazil like the first Chad Mendes, fire was a giant victory for him or Brazil ran out of the audience, was cheering with them. They held up the flag. Different animal is a different thing, and I also Joe They will get hit, who go straight back and he does get hit. We chat. Men is another. That's where he gets hit is not a loose. If you know it might even get hit by economists The game is over. He hits like a fucking Mack truck yeah. He snaps those punches big, two man. He mixes shit up real good with uppercuts and straight pipe,
which is an comes at different angles. He gets unpredictable with his movements when he's in close, like if you look at uh, is fight with Marcus Brimage. That beautiful combination that he landed to take now using and how good does is Matt CALL Max Holloway. We ask now exactly he did, I'm really up me yeah. He jacked his knee in the first round. So if there a lot going on in that fight. There's a lot going on that fight watt and I think I think after Let's say: Conor wins that fight his toughest matchups are looming. You know, they're waiting form well, Tony Ferguson's, already called him out. What icon to my fifty five bitch just might be his last fight at forty five to most likely will be with Donald wants to fight him to quash at the far should fight Superbowl Pettis. Well, Donald shouldn't be thinking about anything but the 18th, that's going to be tough one. That's tough one stuff, one room for my boy Cerrone. I am too I'm also rooting for dos Anjos. That's the fucking problem with being a commentator. You gotta fucking rude on everybody.
Not be like as a human being, I'm wait closer to Donald Donald's, my friend, but when I watch those to fight I'm I mean I'm a fan of martial arts yeah your professional, but when I watch those who fight I'm a fan of both those guys, I'm I'm a half eldo Sanjos fan that mother fucker. Is that beast that beat something he put on Pettis the way he did it. The way you this guy in the world to the best and nice guy. When I was fighting- and I never forget the stuff anytime guys go out of their way to be nice to me. I never forget it when I was in Brazil for a press conference before I flat no gear, it's like whatever fourteen weeks before the fight. Brazilians around exactly a big brown fan when you're fighting the biggest guy in the fucking city. No ones do me favors and Santos. Give me rides everywhere to Williams, made sure I was cool, that's not sure, where to eat all his great man he's a great dude. I was like talking them, but it rate on the guys out when I from December St Cal, with my boy yeah
no I get off man, I'm biased, don't ever get it twisted whenever make pics, I'm always biased yeah. I feel you this fight as a martial artist, because as someone who's like looks at other problems at both guys present. I like this fight because of the physical quality of dos Anjos is something that guys have to deal with. He's worked real hard on conditioning and strength, and routines that he trains that Nick Individuals, they do some I'll, crazy, explosive plyometric shit. They do a lot of like strength, shit and a lot of it about just just reducing the amount of time it takes you to act and to perform your actions to start getting it down to fractions of a second just fractions of a second constantly explode in constant moving, there's all sprints and box jumps and that kind of shit. If you watch like some of the training modalities is really fascinating to watch all these different techniques. They apply all these weird flexibility things he does
that's cool. Oh, he does a lot of wild shit. Man how you at the one thing I don't like is how much time cowboys hat off cowboy so don't go Natalie as best. We you a lot of time off. We have to think about the fights the trouble yeah well how boys a mother, Fucker man. He saw the momentum right now so how to momentum. You know and he's really fucking, tough guy. He takes a good shot. I don't get any tougher the answer. He takes a good shot and he really fucking sneaky with his moitie very snipping off his back man on his ex fact off his back and I rolled with cowboy it's like Jesus man very slick off. Is this one of the best things about being a kickboxer? Has a really good guard game? 'cause, you don't worry about getting taken down. 'cause you're, very offensive off your back and less refined. Oh Sandra, those of high level grapplers black belt high. Let's not give a fuck about your guard, who is also strong. A shit like you saw in eight
yes. Well, he just ragdolled ideas and just brutalized that leg too, with those leg kicks, or it's going to be interesting to see if he decides to stand with Donald like how he decides to approach it. He so fucking fast. That was the thing that got me. Tennis fight like how fast is to engage and fast is to execute is like he's like right. There right there right. There bang like usually like to put tremendous pressure on Pettis Medicine, like that you stand the outside and give him time to It is time in strikers, do like Barbara, so low that you know exactly yeah a lot of noise and the the way beat those guys. A lot of time is that kind of pressure get in the face and Donald had a hard time with Nate in their first fight or their fight, rather because Nate put,
pressure on him in the first round, and there was a lot of shit talking yeah. I think you got emotionally invested in that shit. Talking a little too much, you don't talk about leg kicks it won't even talk about this. I hate to go back to but Jose Aldo Motherfucker for a kick. That's horrible and you gotta, remember Connors that light stand yep, yep because you land for those leg kicks, were talking about a different night yup and he's also were assuming that Connor is going to fight southpaw and it shows is going to fight orthodox we're assuming and if he does do that, then it opens him up for that inside leg. Kick for sure. Let's say it's all: a powerful technique in also head kicks in Joe's is not been a head kick kind of a guy, but Conor is no no and when, if Connor is in that position, he's in the strong leg back position and Jose's opened in the orthodox position. So what I'm saying folks, if you we're talking about if someone fights Southpaw means they have the right foot forward, Orthodox the way most boxers fight. They have their left leg for when Connor has his Lake Ford,
inside of his leg, which is a very, very sensitive indoor area. He gets opened up for those inside leg x, it'll, it'll, slow, your game down, yeah you're in a couple of those world class cake, so slow game yeah, but I mean I kind of think the Connors anticipated that he's probably going to you know time is moving. And then also you look at like that was the kick that did in Anderson, 'cause Weidman checked it Wyman checked it perfectly and snapped Anderson's leg. So there's that possibility too you know they go Shin to Shin a couple of times. I've never been more excited than for flight carts in Saturday night. It's stunning spectacular. It's. So it's so good in so many ways can I hate on one of the fights on the card, Joe real quickly, stew, Gunner, Nelson Damian Maia think is area so news fast. Three hundred and thirty, I know I hope I'm wrong. I hope every other fight on that card is ridiculous we just are wise. I just don't see that being fun. You look at their previous wins. Gunner Nelson's really finishes are
to sit. His finishes are only by submission. You eat some in Damian Maia that ain't happening and the other ones are decision. Damian Maia is either some decision did submit Damian, Maia image and be sick. Can imagine if you could do that be so sick I would like is it possible. I mean I'm a fan. Is it possible to Damian? Could sub Gunner, I'm not even know, if that's possible, I agree well, the thing is we talked about Gunner Nelson's background Jujitsu he's the far cry: four, give me my? I don't get too excited people, as far as you know, celebrated the traditional Jit suit demise, a motherfucking monster. Absolutely one hundred percent as far as achievements, but when you look at what Nelson has done, like he's in elite grappler really Jeff Monson son, he did dominate enough and
he's also small for the division, which is where it gets interesting because Damon, why is large for the division name? It cuts a lot of weight and this would be as first time doing it with an iv. Oooh see all these acts factors sung. The other thing is a day in mind. He likes actually Lance Armstrong, the cardio department. So now you want to submissions later in the round. There's going to be one surprising to me now well end with no ivy, he could even be more weakened by this weight cut and it's a factor how 'bout Susan Romaero even talk about that one long, John Kare is fighting Yoel Romero, first of all Yoel Romero has the best body that has ever walked on earth. She looks better than that. That's a superhero he's a superhero, That's a superhero! That's fucking, Aquaman that spider man. For men straight up. Look at that build that shits, ridiculous and Jack Araiza FUCK. And savage two man, Jackery's bicep, is like three inches longer than a normal bicep. It goes to the middle.
His forearm. He was born to choke people. He was literally born choked people unconscious conscious. It would be interesting to see if ul can avoid this emissions if it goes to the ground. Going to be interesting with Yoel such an elite wrestler I mean his wrestling is outstanding. It's outstanding, but he's been taken down the octagon by inferior guys because they don't give a fuck because it just gets right back up These are not going right back up on Jack or no. No, no! No he's not going to have that approach. That's a fucking thing is going to be much more conservative. I think in his approach as far as attacks, but he's got so much he's got so much faith in that fast, twitch muscle, fiber too 'cause. He drops those fucking fast shot. So Dsouza, though so, does Jacquerie. This fall specially MAX fusion, Okami fight with Jack right unloaded an okami. When you worry about my jiu Jitsu about worried about knuckle sandwich, knuckle sandwich son, I think someone's getting dropped, that's a wild fight! I think
upon feet. Something land are bomb. You know what gets me. I almost wish that you well it's like. I almost wish he's fighting for the title now because I feel like he's thirty six, these thirty six time is now on his side now, especially not with this kind of testing and it yeah. It's not inside testing ain't, doing him any favors, not he has injuries. You know he's back these fischels fight before well. He's had his neck operated on, of course, big slice in the back of his neck. When you see many steps on a scale to weigh inns where he had disc surgery, I don't know they did uh. We don't wrestle for that long. Without having some issues, detail, Samsung, twice, yeah he's a monster, I mean ' Maybe one of the greatest amateur wrestlers to ever come out of Cuba is just a freaking monster. Wrestler each shots, then he's not exactly a cardio machine, either now and he's got to be real, careful about like how explodes and I paced himself I mean these are two fucking kegs of dynamite going after each uh two different approaches of God. Damn that's a good fight
oh, and how would I even talking about your RIAA Faber you're out favors on this card? No one You brought it up yeah, they just have him on the car. Just in case all didn't show up yeah, let's be angry with this. Let's get real here, but it is. Yeah probably gave him a goodest, and yeah he's on the yeah. Do you think you're at? Do you know Frankie signs s really NZ? How do I pronounce signs signs ends? Scenes chains like everyone was named, a few winds could, from Yahoo ones, farts try again from Jeremy Stevens MAX Holloway, it's another fucking, bang up fight, two nobody's bringing out dude, I'm impressed with Holloway Man Hockey a man that CUB Swanson fight open up a lot of people's eyes. They were quo and this kid zone, two thousand and twenty four young
Martin fucking dudes up once he won five hundred and seven or row since losing to Conor the I've. Probably he's one quite a few and looks better. Every single time is inside the octagon, hey Stevens for sure. That's not sucking. I've got like that. Won't take pictures off. I caught him out of camp for photos, I've been there, it's like God, damn it, and you know this shit going on the promos and shit I would've TAN and did some fucking pushups Jeremy Stevens has some fucking dynamite in his Is dynamite kicks to the kidneys now honey Jason that head kick Hawaii. That was uh flatlinerz almost like the rumble Johnson of this weight class, buy, keys, Justin, right, locking ball of knockout dear then. How I just think always is too good. He's too many tools to win will see. I like it like that fight. I like it a lot. I think Jeremy Stevens this using when you should use AG you fuck up you
Mistakes yeah he will shut the fucking lights out on you that Dennis Bermudez fight. How about that? How about that fight? Bermudez is a mother. Ups was looking good in that fight to to Jeremy Stevens drop the bomb on him. We do that man and he holds that power deep into the third round. Two, you gotta remember. Also. He knocked out the champ back to San Jose right people. Forget that I don't forget it. He knocked out those Angeles at fifty five and then drop down to forty five feels like get a better shot at forty five. I wonder how many guys continue to try to compete at forty five with this IV band, not many yeah, I wonder how Jeremy's going to do 'cause. I think this will be his first fight without the IV I'll. Think about all the Mcgregor to what occurs at some mother for him to get down yeah. You look emigre goings on that scale. Thank you can be. A looks are dead now I walk, and so like a horrible stomach disease or something you know if Mcgregor knocks out, although see the biggest aren't you see, yeah yeah he's the biggest one hundred percent. He said
is right now you think me Rhonda is the biggest but she's not because she's, not the champ he's the champ. They will have parades for him in Ireland parade for yeah, but you have to understand the level of champ like their level of love that, gets is so like women like looked at like this new thing, there thing that never existed before this beautiful female combat sports champion is totally dominant, but iron and has a long history of combat sports athletes and right now, Comma Greg is, is big as anyone that's ever been and if he beats all, although and he smashes, although with the way he talks and his charisma, the way he dresses his whole package, the whole thing there's, no one like him. They will have a God, Damn parade for him in Ireland and he will be the biggest star MA. Is ever seen, he will eclipse Brock, Lesnar and Rhonda Rowsey together he's going to be the fucking MAC daddy. You know the thing about Connor Text, big, it's a big gift, big
If I think needs it. I think Nf Mansion doing so bad nope nope, I disagree. I disagree, I if Conor gets sucked out dead by Jose Aldo. Then, although look even better. Ok that looks even better and then next people want to see it. Although fight someone else who Thank you. I don't! I don't ever look at it in terms of like what would be the best result for the all. I do all the time. I don't martial arts, that's what I want with you, Joe. That's all great. I want I want exchanges. I want to figure out what is what's the best style, as it is long stance with these crazy. We weird movements and throwing in traditional martial arts techniques, or is it hard dutch style with fucking world class brazilians. We know that works. We've been waiting for ten years, so let's say that work against Conor with Connor Fucking, spinning that kicks him in the liver five seconds into the fight,
do with Chad? We had the biggest fight. You know we got a lot of all time wild, but the thing is is: if you look at, though, if a farmer businessman, not not, as Marshall, is from a businessman Conor winning, is that Golding take yeah, I'm sorry in one place too, because Joe that you know he is going to be around that much longer right, but there's never been a guy like Conor before the UFC's been fine like you, don't need to not it's not necessarily. The best thing would be fine, Dana still screws me duck. I'm not saying that son, I'm not so I'm not saying he goes broke, but I don't even think it's just talked about in new heights. I don't think so. Look at this Scrooge Mcduck through the backstroke through a sea of gold in love that guy never thought about until you started bringing up Scrooge Mcduck. I never thought about that cartoons randomness. Whatever you talk about money like I ain't Scrooge, Mcduck. True, that's right! Scrooge Mcduck had a lot of money, ball and son. I think this
right for martial artist. This fight is is like the uh, ultimate, who knows it's like the ultimate, the Weidman fight as well they're, both ultimate who knows the only difference being that we saw Wideman get kicked in the head by Victor. We saw that the song. I thought you thought you sent Use Oracle, get we'll get. Did I say why men, I'm sorry yeah we saw Rockhold get knocked out by Vito, is we'll kick in the first round? That's the only variable those mutant feet door, though it was a mutant store. I miss that you know this this part of me that all this look I'm very torn on RTV Torah obviously very torn because as a person who enjoys Trt myself, my god, damn with some benefits of that stuff yeah. We can have that. You know you can't, but why not? Because Bisping's left eye is why not you're right but ok that, but that was uh got that landed. Are we absolutely sure that that shot was landed? Because of trt? I mean that's the thing.
Trt. If I can throw a spinning back kick one hundred times. Naturally I take dht, I can build a thousand times yeah, one hundred percent. It's help me fill that back, especially if you can achieve hyper human levels and maintain them. So that's what people! I don't think totally understand about this argument about t r t all you have to do when when they're talking about like the does dosage varies for every athlete that takes it, but what they I want to do is maintain a high normal it's a high normals like eight hundred. This would be the number that would look for. In your blood test, one hundred to one thousand right yeah, well that right, it's very rare you get to it One thousand very: it's like super relic african dudes who eat elephant meat and fucking kill lions with sticks. Those guys might hit one thousand natural Jesus credit in some pockets. Super fucking genetics but like like well Romero there probably some times in his life, where he's at one thousand, but most people. Probably some super stud. You know they just die.
It barely exist out there out there out there there's outliers right. This is like, like those Eastland dudes, those gigantic pow. Or, like the mountain, obviously probably does some fucking mexican supplements yeah, don't believe lunch, but even on top, that utility mexican supplements on top of a super human guy who gigantic seven foot tall gorilla man near the mountain near the mountain, so when you're in camp. But this is one of things. A Weidman was yelling at v torque, because one v towards blood work came back from camp. Is a guy that had been taking off the t, R T got onto your t because is testosterone's low, but when he's in camp training for Weidman they tested testosterone is three times higher than wymans. Why was it three he's at twelve? what the fuck you know or was it four times so he's who knows who knows what's going on he got away with it whatever it is, either
You figured out a way to get his testosterone up naturally, or we figured out a way to do it and not get caught. But when you are God, like Weidman, who is a young guy who's doing it by the book and doing it totally, not your? How did he gets broken down by training and it takes some serious mental power, some series willpower to keep pushing through when you're, a guy hi who's taking that trt, all you have to do is maintain that high normal. So you might, if your workouts are brutal, they're breaking your body down. You gotta bang, revitalize that bitch and he might be taken giant doses several times a week for sure and if he's doing that these operating at a level that a normal human being just can't read, it doesn't mean if your nineteen doesn't matter. If you're forty five, you can't do it, you know it Thing is, though, is granted. You know, Trt does help in all that you still have to put in the Work-
you see still put in the fucking work you idiot and people all Barry Bonds to what he can hit a bit. Now you take all the stories you want. Writing that home run. No, they still have so much talent. Man you have to have all the above. I have the talent and then you have to learn. That's what Victor had, but they also thing that there's a thing that happened where he had this crazy confidence because of that shit yeah, Different kind of confidence is just a different person who is a different person in those fights? There's a law guys like the over him when he fought Brock and it wiped my god fuck. Oh my god, those terrifying it made me not want to fight in two hundred and sixty five shredded look at his arm. I looked and I looked at him like fuck. This man brought just couldn't fucking. Take him down pull that fight up, find that fights. If you could find that get online, Overeem versus Brock. He would finish third. Fourth in Olympia, pry, wouldn't it be great if there was no testing, so you could
I don't know. If it was, I don't know man, I don't know. I don't know 'cause anytime. Who is the best doctor? I know, but I mean like when over fought Badr Hari, you think Badr Hari was clean. I love badahari. The by eight two as well, so let's just leave it at that, like my while doing it I mean K1 is a different kind of an environment. You know- and I think those guys have been his guys in HOLLAND that have been caught. So here is over him. She just look at the size of the trap, son and he's coming out with a low stance too bad product It looks like a tron leg. Kicks he's thrown kicks in doing like some Jeet Kune DOE hand, techniques just a quick jab. I don't know what to do. He don't know what to do. He's got this guy coiled up in front of him. Oh
over him? Just barely missed, I can make her over again right. I don't think anyone beats that over and that's the scariest guy, maybe ever in the octagon, mostly low stance. Good luck take him down. He also could take a shot when he was juice. Five thousand God. Damn it looked at the amount of math he was carrying then is compared to now. Look at this strategy. Look! Here's to takedown defense, nothing not Iraq. It's a single, not even close practice, couldn't can complete this single. That's so crazy. He's got hold that single and he couldn't do a God. Damn thing about it. Brock is mixed up with the stand up, though, yeah! Well! For him! That's pretty good, but this is the ferocious fucking power that Overeem has always looming, see it's loom, keeping map, but you will never see two freaks like this in the octagon. Ever another one we heard you, so you have a bad gut. That's cool check this out strong, some good jobs. I really is, but it's just over
over his cut already got cut over his right eye that flat top in helping nobody come on, looks beautiful, unlock it all this nasty fucking, words that need the body had already fucked him out and he kicks on here comes to kick. The kick was nasty. He throws that all right under that right arm, you're, never going to see too oh, and with that right, kick he there's a left, kick that he lands in this fight that I remember watching like three or four times in a row like ooh, that one down wasn't a good one dude. I love watching Brock fight God, damn over him, look to it back down Jesus different animal! Now new Jesus yeah in in it makes you think. Like I get it, I mean I'm not really saying the guy should be able to there. It is is in, is in the actually I'm sorry boom boom. I'm not and the guy should be able to do whatever that. There's there's a kiss son. There's that left kick yep boom. The went right under the armpit. It's
not saying the guy should be able to do whatever they want. Just pulled back to that that left kick to the body again, just one more time want to see that you know the thing is, though Joe, you also got chop it up. This is a few years ago to jump all over me as miles on boom Slaton K1 pride UFC his miles on him. Oh yeah, one hundred, but I think that's why all just trt, I think one of the things that Trt does is take those miles off a few more things. I think it takes a lot off if you do enough- and I think that's what we saw with Vita are well here. It is man, this fucking, he lands us right knee first and hurt some, and then he lands that left kick to the body. Liquids right handed lenses both boom, then watching name up he's hurting am now out here this- is this watch it all am, oh god right underneath just sh into the gut and that's right where, after he had that surgery for diver
colitis had a big chunk of his colon removed, his intestines removed rather comma big Brock fan. I like both those guys, big Brock fan, though over him, then in that fight boy we had a lot of options, just like being so many could fights for that guys. The best scene, him against junior or him against Kaynor him get, there was so many fights were going to see him. Who is the best man? Now it's interesting how different a guy becomes we take that stuff away, am I mean, is the ultimate proving ground for testosterone, see ultimate proving ground watching the difference. Yes for washing the difference between these guys and what they can pull off. When they ran it. When they're not I mean you can I'm sure you could see a difference in football players, but the difference is you're not You're, not seeing them to a finish in a particular con test against another human being. We get to see there it's like you, see a guy sprinting on the field. You can see a guy making good plays. You could see being energetic and pulling off but
not seeing them in a sustained environment for five minutes at a time, three minute rounds, and why watching their movements and analyzing them against another human being. I agree it's very like in fighting steroids, it's very black and white. I think it's very clear whether someone's on it very clear well it's hard to say no, I'm not saying I! I can't look at a guy. Go he's taken right, but if, like the door right like when he fought what of v toward in, but still it was like holy good God, then the Tony fight Weidman, like Amman off. It was like the way I describe Lego Football that had like one slash four of the air missing. Some something happened like something's going on, but if you watch say like fight in a guy's? A super athlete guys will assume like people already saying Sage Northcutt's on steroids. That's not fair. Is nineteen yeah. That's not fair, that's the world we live in, though yeah of course. So it's hard tell by looking at somebody, but you can tell
change radically like if you go back to Victor's fight with Jeff with Rich Franklin Watch that fight watch, the Rich Franklin fight his body and then watch is fighting the rock five am and watches, but there were a few if a if a guy has like a crazy losing streak Dallas and he's coming back in his new guy. That's always a signal into me like well I know, but he changes and ain't just kicking and punch because you know how to do that, I totally get that it should be illegal and I totally agree that it should be illegal. But part of me makes me: go Dallas is so interesting to see something that allows you to do your sport way better and they won't. Let you do it. I know I know you know, I mean everything else, everything else you can do. I mean like we talk about, like you know, different supplements, like different companies that sell stuff like these uh test. Doster
boosters and all these different creatine and there's all sorts stuff, all those things making them a little bit, enhance it yeah it affect your performance. How to recover and all that so yeah all different fighter, different me know acids. They all have an effect. You could little. You can have a little effect. What do you take in branched chain amino this will allow and what about Hgh? Well, it's it's like. So if, if we You know, there's studies is proven to really help made in the process of recovery where, before guys, kind of fucked, oh yeah, one hundred percent, that I can take Hgh yeah right, especially when there's a significant injury, the trying to recover from, but if they're under the testing protocol of the the site of the can't do it, I know he can even do it, whether recovering from an injury that hurting athletes it. No, it's it's an athlete, and it's certainly UFC right, because not now that athlete that maybe could it, let's say to Anderson Silva seven, you could have taken half of his time away from the spa,
and he could be fighting soon. Do you think there should be different standards, though I mean between like combat sports and other sports different standards of like what you can and can't do as far as enhancing your body, because of the fact that we are trying to do ultimately do damage, not that she is ever think of Hollywood. Look like look like. She is uh some massive shit and kick ground in the face. It's a different result. It's totally different result, yeah if it turned out that she had tested positive after that fight, good law word, all the hate would come her way ness and oh, my god, you gotta cheat to beat Ronda. You fucking loser you piece of shit. They would hate her yeah. It's crazy man crazy, but it's also there's don't you think, there's a different reaction. A woman gets caught taken anabolic steroid versus a man. Yeah thing. Yes, I think
when guys do it. It's kind of like the F man makes sense a little bit with women like White, you, in cheater deep did. I know girl, jujitsu, jitsu competitors, they're taking testosterone, they don't even get paid. I mean they're, just doing relax, they're just doing Jujitsu to doing jujitsu. Let's not do that they're doing testosterone. Let's not do that. Yeah they're, doing like creams and stuff like that, like Cyborg, will never be able to shake that steroid stuff ever did you ever watch your first point, if your first point should should never be able to shake any of that. Even she might be cleaned out much since she's on stuff. I have no idea. She's always get that he's going to be brought up every time she fights now. Well, because we all know it's like. You saw what she looked like. You saw the didn't, look anything like anybody that you knew that hadn't done anything that was a woman like when women get athletic and they get long and they lift a lot of weights.
You very rarely look like that. Like there was the this is level of musculature and thickness and density and shredded at very low body fat with very I muscle content like world there's, also not just on which is not speculate. She tested positive yeah because I'm not like on or something she's on. No, no, she failed the test, yeah yeah always going to travel with her, always speaking of big ass girls in Jitsu. You know that Abriel. You know time. Oh yeah, we know she's striking that blackout, yeah looking pretty like she's like six four she's going to fight MMA in Japan signed some big deal out there, but the with her she's two hundred plus pounds. Do the health by fighter they found like some big russian bitch with a beer or something just knocking this russian Chris. We bare out, because, like you, look at Karen she's a such a freak now it's like she used to be this really heavy woman with uh, not a body fat. She was really big
and she was just so bulky. She was so how big and then like she must have facial reconstruction. She must have gotten something done to her face too and don't forget about ten ten thousand hit hard and she lost all the body shred cheese shredded who the fuck is ever done, that before gone from being like really fat and overweight forever and just dominating girls in Jujitsu doing really well to all a sudden being shredded shred town, three thousand like in bold green verses, Brock, Lesnar's, resident, yeah, yeah and now she's doing mma. She is she. I think she has a fight coming up some Japan she's on Risan June, the rising card, his entry, the yeah yeah, I'm all smiles sound like a, but my thing is yeah how big she is next to cats in Ghana and cats, a big girl, Google cats, not small, yeah she's, a good fifty pounds heavier than
Gaby Garcia. That's right and she changed my good friend MIKE's a fly. In essence. It was Jim and he's like dude. You should see this girl, hello, I'm sure I'm sure she she each the other thing is she got so good at Jujitsu and choose domino in women? It you did so she gets mad. She gets in those girls on the ground. Now with that body, I mean that body that she must have so much after she lost, though that little Mackenzie girl. I know great time piece to amazing. I could always like one hundred and thirty. How did she do that alarm, a few g2? Who is the only martial art where, small, talented guy really can beat a bigger, stronger, faster guy by knowing the techniques just buy like a guy? Like me, Stella Garcia, when he fought Rigo Rodriguez grappling match, she said she's a fight, a match, like everybody knew Marshall is going to win. You know a point where my took Ricos back Rico sort of like violated the rule.
They slam. He slammed him because Marcelo's backpack in him. He was on him like he didn't want to choked out so he threw all Who is two hundred and forty plus pounds backwards with Marcello on his back so When did all the weight on Marcello's back so slammed him to the ground and then Marcel Leg, lock them such a badass? True, this technique, Ryan Hall Fight happened. Was someone supposed to fight him and they couldn't get a visa? No! So the guy who was from England from England on his visa to get in here- and he had some felony or something so they don't allow him back in the states to fight for the finale. So Brian Hall Step, but Ryan Hall lost already in the house, but he lose to uh I forget I haven't watched. I binge watch I like to binge
I've been doing the show on Fox sports live. So I just watch I like watching bright before I go on the show, but I don't watch the ultimate fighters. Well, I've been crazy busy too, and since I I'm concentrating on this card, I'm not calling those other cards, I'm only calling that one card, I didn't, watch it too much. The Artem guy he's Connors boy he's not good mother fuckers out his art. He sorry, but you also drops his hands and he throws his winging punches, and so it's interesting it. Yet since he's interesting yeah, it's gonna be trouble, crazy fucking week and no one is even talking about Chad, Mendes and Frankie EDGAR, no ones even talking. But listen you ain't shit and less you're freaking Jose Ortona this weekend. Even Chris items like come on man come on. Give me some love here: jock Array and freaking, I forgot. We skipped over him almost yeah. Well, we always want, Someone like Conor to come along, who believes himself in a way that we can imagine believing in ourselves. We want someone to come along, who says crazy shit.
Like he says, he's like are Mohammed Ali, but Irish in small. You know I'm saying yeah, but but in a weird new way. You know where. Where do you like it, though, because if you meet Conor granted, he does blame self. When you want to be such a good condition yeah, I had lunch only damn man, I'm sorry your line menu such a good bird is a great guy yeah. In the end, he really does with their hands man. He really does a number on dudes they get in there all discombobulated by the time they get in there with them, and I think other fighters respect that the amount of shit that he's talked- and he puts so much pressure on themselves like damn he still pulls it off because even in little interviews went outside. When I talked a lot of shit, I got phone my gosh, we talked about the mark, Something on Mark Hunt got mad at you and you, like: hey, Alex Emma DM on Twitter, hey bro. I was just joking what's up brother,
I can't is years ago. I imagine him on testosterone replacement. Oh my, yeah, I'm not doing nothing ain't! No one fighting that guy! I should do this something bout Samoans like they're, just they're built better They just started like tanks, it tanks through tanks and I'm a bike at his knees are twice the size of a normal person sneeze when you see like Mark Hunt inside the octagon use made, alright man, death, fucking dude, throws bombs to what's next for him. Now it's good question. 'cause, you know he's coming off. Big, win over Bigfoot Silva. What the kind of a big win big foot! Do you think they're going to let Bigfoot go if they release bigfoot? Will they be in time for him to fight fate or in pride God, ten reisen Verizon, can you give him a fight? Yet I don't think so. I don't know I don't know what but if they had if they gave enough time if they were nice and they go look big footing on saying what happened, but you can go over to Japan I don't see why they wouldn't 'cause. What's left for Bigfoot, where is Bigfoot go? Where are we going within Japan, they're not going to make him way in.
Anyway, whatever he wants they'll, let him take whatever he wants an if Anybody has a right to take testosterone. It's bigfoot is the pituitary gland tumor, Why is giant is Alabama voted for damage allegedly well, perhaps that's what the commission says so one of the commission into these bias. Test done with his blood work, shoot I'll. Tell you that's a great game plan. Is New York City yeah, there ain't nothing for you, homie, there's nothing for you can't do that anymore. There's no title shot they're going to throw the wolves and just build off your name. He still hits hard. You still dangerous fucked up over him. That was one of the best highlight reel knockout. Heavyweight division that combination of punches and then over him, but him up against the cage and fucking big Bang: Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, bang! We knocked out Travis Brown, oh yeah, oh yeah Travis eat that right and against the cage, but Travis blew his hamstring out. Member is gave you know. I do remember that during him blast in the face, though, but I've also that was bigfoot on some shit. It was so now
you know, I'm saying that we don't have that bigfoot for sure after your walking papers and go fight, fade or get off Bing and swamped with a the other ones, walking papers enough time to fight fade or we're dealing. It's like December. Tenth now we're talking. May not this pirate give fedora puff cake like you always fights these days, and then let's have bigfoot guns. Shit and do his thing. I can't believe they keep saying fade or Emelianenko with a to be announced opponent this month I tell you what you want talk about business on on. Don't do that? What the fuck are you guys doing? That's what they've always done. Just tried- always did you think the pride days, man we need match up Sweeney, good matchups you're, not I'm not kind of paper. You just fade over some schmuck on it. Well, it's not a fate. It's out of view? Is gonna be on spike? So is that you know all right, but still that that that's not going to you're, not huge numbers. Doing that anymore,
wonder woman's change kind of numbers. They will get 'cause. This is the KEN Shamrock fight to hoist Gracie KEN Shamrock you don't want. People will buy that Kimbo slice people by that I mean by it as meaning watch it to watch it. It will get. It will get a million people. A million people, it's free! Yes, if you get a million on spike yeah I was gonna, get a melanoma, can does all watched him, yeah, Kimbo, Dada and then voice and can and then fade or as well. I mean, I think, that's the car. That's the right way to get my camel tap out. Sure, out of the box, that, on the go back to two thousand, to have won the yellow collar and also said that I just said he little more outdoor. Let's do something new man, let's try and get some fresh blood in there. What they need to do is, or goods pay, Benson a shit load of money and get him to go over. That's right! How about that? Michael page guy he's fine he's. Fine, he hasn't fought. The he's fun to watch is a lot of wild shit lot of wild shit
awhile shit, a lot of wild results, crazy, knockouts! Wonder! What's going to happen with Ben, it's a good question to very good question I heard some korean Organization offer Matana Money, only two hundred thousand dollars of fight yeah. That's not that's! Ok, it's decent, it's December son of to take a risk and leave the u of C, because who knows if they're, even going to be around a year? Well, if they're gonna be around yeah, you know you can get sponsors when you're over there. No one's really watching right out what exactly it's not well. It's not get any sponsors over here. You know that's part of the problem yeah, you know pretty got this bill, your name right and ship. And although not great how about they called they called Entity Pedestal Mohler, it's looking This is stupid. I love It's like someone inside the companies like trying to sabotage it or something I feel like. There's someone in there is like how can I fuck this? I think there's some dude who works for the company that were these on the underground and he's like
Secrett Salva Tour, he's going into the database and changing things after hours. So like what the fuck yeah. The teachers are printed. Would you fuck is absent, although what is this is like, I would put it up and he's at something has to be going on. Who knows who knows? Maybe someone from Adidas growing Pains Adida Ownsome how they do Adidas own? Reebok they're, like the redheaded stepchild, maybe some from Nike, maybe Nike didn't like the deals, deal, the company with spyware, yeah, that's the only legit like it makes no sense to me. It doesn't make any sense the design of the shirts too. How about that? I was designed like woods, it was his spend twenty minutes. Is there I thought that touches like there's some guys, like you, think you can make these dumb. Where this you think something to sign off on it. I mean, if you just put that out on the internet and you said, come up with
design idea. An you know will give you fifty grand or something like that, which is Jack Shit for Reebok, just get fans who are fans. The sport with photos and you and you open yourself up this- just gigantic pool of people that come up with ideas, get some dope stuff- God man, oh my god, nominal stun. Instead, they just basically didn't even spell the names right on all of 'em you know, I mean how much time was put into that. It's just a bomber man and his bomber bums me out just because I love the OC. It makes the UFC look bad Reebok during the fuck you want, but by signing this deal now we look like mass is only to the hardcore fans they're, the only ones even know about it. Most people have no idea why anybody wanna Reebok pair of pants versus I mean you have to be like deep in it like we are like the average guy was watching it Chicken Buffalo Wild wings and keep his shit he done with shit, but also that guys not going to buy a fight kit. You
if you want to be lol season, going to buy a fight kit mean you just start going outside and pointing at people you successful. I agree, no just can't who's buying. Have you seen one? Have you ever seen? One everyone, I've never seen one. Some guy tweed me earlier today and goes holy shit shop, I'm seeing Conor, Mcgregor fight kits other than that at the you know, dying people the yeah but they've inflicted so like in and they put as american flag uncovered Gregor shit. I think they did that. The website what they did So, although some guy ordered it and took pictures like this camping right really, yes, physically had. It was a come on. I got a come rigor sure well how about the Ireland sure that they made where they didn't include northern ourselves, a big one? Oh my god, that was a big. That's a ins! It's a massive insult to those people that some massive insult, like you're, trying to sell the image of their land, and you don't mean this is been this history. Oracle dispute between the n,
the south and you're going to not include more than Ireland Conor Mcgregor's head coach, like you guys, better change that right now, I'm ripping all this Reebok Shit off my walls, yeah yeah, I mean that's a big deal. It's a huge deal for those. It's just details, man, it just comes down to just details. I'm sure Dana is getting so much shit from it he's going to start focusing on it. I hope so, but it's a fucking nightmare man. They've done nothing good, at least if they were fucking things up with going paid? It's like. Don't worry, we'll figure it out in the final thing, it's all good baby right. We can't do that when you're Brian guys, that's exactly how fighters would be to give a shit. You spelled her name wrong, would give him half a million dollars. I don't give a fuck call me Brandon, give me five hundred up Brandon shot, yeah change it. You want Brandon, that's cool, but the nickname
Brandon Brandon shall just fucked up Brandon will be in quotes, did state that honestly, new, nickname it's like Sage Sage, Northcutt, someone tag me on his instagram. He post get my shirt for the fights tonight and Bush T shirts, three thousand four hundred and ninety nine. Well, that's an issue there and then say is in such a big fall and do your own shit, man we've been over. This beat it to Deadhorse, we will figure well, you got a unique opportunity to do that because of the podcast and you connect with these people, and then you have like this network of people that listen, your stuff. You give a free podcast all the time they want to wear those fighter in the kid shirts. They want to drink coffee out of the fighter in the kid mug it's hard for a fighter to establish all that stuff and get it going while they're in the middle of training camp again that managers and managers all that someone should recommend it to him.
Nothing. He shouldn't be folks, I'm doing twist, don't get don't get it wrong. I just feel like, if you're not on that model, yet you're getting left behind true, but you know these managers in these agents and stuff they they probably don't even know how to do they, don't if they're not even aware 'cause everybody just country on the fight game, after not making money you're, not making money doing that so alright, so taken twenty percent of his money that he already earned from Reebok. That makes no sense how you make money, how much the fighter make doing seminars like when someone starts doing seminars. How much can they make a decent money? If you go on like tours, you know: well, that's a Beastman. How much they make like how much can name guy make for a day. I'm not sure, I'm not that I'm not a superstar being. I was getting idea, a similar once and I got like six grand, that's pretty good, that's pretty good! How many people were in there it was in Canada. I mean it was packed news pack couple one hundred yeah now,
maybe one hundred hundred hundred yeah Eddie Bravo does some pretty fucking big seminars don't be rude though, and ask him how much he makes, but I would think that if you do a which of those like in a row like you, do a gang of those So that's a real live and they have to be legit, though you're in a lot of times, when the guys so technical and he's such a good fighter is not. You know, he can't relate that in words for a while. So the similar kind of sucked, it also seems like Jujitsu, is the seminar that people want to go to it's very hard to get people to go to mma seminar or very high, get people to go to moitie seminar or a harder, but jujitsu seminars are typically pretty fucking giant. I feel like jitters, more LUCA, if right, like people who signed for Jitsu, especially California, going through that whole whole belt system. You have some bank, so they're, going to sign up for a G2 Semi Machida does a shit load of seminars and there's no Karate Simmons yeah. He does
but his family has that backgrounds brothers dad can help it's a little different animal yeah and he's famous he's a former champion Super famous yeah, it's different. If you're famous yeah interesting thing seminars. You know, seminars are very fascinating to me. You know and also like put together a gym and make Gemma a successful and a successful business is so hard to do. Do you know any about combat sports academy. The CSA Kevin. Change out of the gene. I guess Unicron. I was up there. Now too, I am not come out all have heard of it. Yeah he's he's about mother. The guy runs at Jimmy knows what he's doing he's got a giant Jim got a lot of members and he puts on seminars and teaches people how to run gems, how to successful, run gems and set up training programs yeah I want to go.
I should go. Do it sometime just to watch just for my own yeah, we should go, find out what he doesn't annually and he doesn't annually because on it with our data to the linen right, like eight, they do different different. I'm just you know they do a thing. How? Yes right now you can travel fide beach training for Navy Academy right, but this is the difference. And that's training. Protocol, like John Wolf, does a lot of things, but it's all like kettle bells. An Steel, maces and things on the exercises. You know, there's a difference between teaching someone how to like perform x sizes correctly like kettlebell certifications are pretty common. You know, like Pavel, Does the of the is a bunch of different cannibalistic Maxwell does his his own certification process. I think Mohler MIKE Mohler does as well. There was a real big name. Is have these certification protocols because they figure out what's the best way, to implement their training. Reggie
and then they teach it to people, so they could teach to other people, and once you get the technique down the movements down stuff like that, but I think it's way more complex to get a bunch of people to sign up for your gym I think that's hard for people to do and he's teaching him. How to run the gym and be successful? Think so, I'm pretty sure other fuck. I think also how to set up training training schedules and calendars and how to peak fighters? That's pry yeah. He should be killing it. There should be, it's kind of people become a lot of people come to those things should be killing it 'cause that to learn that is priceless and we also have our keys got some Crossfit shit going on too 'cause, like their instagram posts. There's a lot. Is Crossfit games, stuff, a lot of crossfit classes and exercises. So I think, is Kim is both a strength and conditioning Jim Anna Moitie JAM, and I know they have heart I have some mma fighters here as well yeah, but it's like moitie, it's very hard to get a lot of people to sign up for moitie. Not a lot of people want their face, split open, not a lot of people want to
cut up my own balls yeah. That's why I just do so. Luke are exactly you get old, ladies stooge. It's even Crossfit Crossfit, so big man, it's hard run a gym man, him even running a fucking twenty four hour, fitness or la fitness, or something like that. Jammer. Since I was like you know, my dad's business since I was a kid. A gym or restaurant is not the way you want to go. Let her people asked me are going to start a gym. Absolutely not the chance of you making legit money off that good luck, so competitive and let's you some Scrooge Mcduck Dan Lambert doesn't give a yeah who puts together some just check. I mean I don't know I don't ever ask Dan, but I can imagine how long it took him before a t t was profitable takes a long time, I'm sure it's probably probable. Now, because it's so big and so famous so popular, I might be wrong. He might just be doing most of the month break in even yeah. He made me do it for the fun other than trying it's it's it's it's also when you think about how many
different schools and colleges produce professional football players right they go from high school system to the college system. They go from the college system into the NFL. You know I mean there's the wealth of talent nationwide a stab Liszt, these systems as his kids come up in about three hundred a year, so established right. Mma is not like that. You have these random, professional gyms and some of them like this fight, like Johnny Hendricks, left team takedown. I know so he's. What he's going to do is he's going to have some fucking hold mitts farm and do some boxing work and then work out with, like the Oklahoma State, sing team and like assembly, saying yeah he's gotta put together his own camp he's leaving team takedown's, tough man, it is tough and also he lives in Dallas team takedown was in Dallas is the big big place in Dallas. They came up together, I I think they had some sort of a problem because the team takedown thing, if I'm
on my ass here 'cause. It is always just stuff. I've read on the internet, but I believe what they did is they give fighters a salary and they give them. You know they set him up room and board room and take care of everything, but when the money starts with and they get fifty percent doc, fifty percent- we are much. I headed to the champ yup the be annoying as yep was on family, more yeah, but still he was for awhile yeah yeah. You got to wonder you know. What's the most profitable way to fifty is a 50s, a ton, but also at the same time you know was Johnny Guy that didn't have any things come from Oklahoma from college and like listen, we're going to test all this money. Do you hope and you become the champ and then we'll get our money back on the investment? Exactly and then did it happen? Johnnies, like listen. I don't know the details was trying like fuck this man's too much money. Yeah, I don't know- I mean it's hard to tell it's hard to tell you- know, see the argument that could be made where like. If you have a high level champion like a John Hendricks, it makes the whole Jim better and it's it's worth a lot of money to the gym just to have him training course, hello,
one hundred percent right huge because it change is people's attitude about a gym. Is better guys into the gym. One hundred percent hundred percent, like like here's, a perfect example muscle, far You found other TJ just moved to Musclepharm everybody went whoa hold on that's a ball. Remove by muscle Pharm. That's a gangster move right! Yeah you get it I like map browns there to get it Matt Brown! You got Matt Brown and got Tj Dillashaw, ok, you're, making moves! You got Matt Brown, yeah, yeah, TJ, Dillashaw, that Brandon Thatch Neil Magny up yeah yep, Neil Mag, just being Calvin Gastelum. That raises it big time. I that's that those are gangster moves right! That's that's how you the gym popular so now here we are talking about the Musclepharm gym. If they'd and do that. Would we be talking about it? No well rampages training there years ago. Did we talk about the first one? We didn't talk about
on stage. You know sage, north cut left, Tri star. He did not want that pulled him from trust. Wants yeah when that's in the recent. The recent article I read is dead to contrast a strain in Dallas now some local gym in Dallas, some like that or worries from an exam while station, whatever whom one one. That's all, but I don't know french girls to lunch to get you to watch them, FISH Mosher's age has to just fucking. If he doesn't, I don't know I would one line, fucking chief and out on life, I don't wanna fucking, be there just to watch that kid sheets. You know the amount This fly out of his body in the middle of the night from his dream. Spiderman, have a tough road as far as distractions go, but I things could happen yeah. I agree. It's a good thing or you might just fly off the fucking head
in North Scott Press return twice to our after UFC Fight night, eighty eyes future acting modeling gigs up it's over well yeah, over hey man acting and modeling got along way to go in the UFC. Let's talk about modeling and acting yeah. Well, maybe just sees the potential for money and realize you can only fight so much I mean that's always possible. It is always possible man, I mean look, you have to think but that way look at what's going on with you look at how much more money you make now doing your podcasts than you making when you're fighting and how much easier it is for you being close, not even close an end. The podcast is growing. Every month. I saw you guys were in the top ten of all the podcasts in the world the other day, yeah hollow hi, hello, episode, Scrooge Mcduck was Miss crazy, and on top of that, you doing these live, shows that are selling out months in advance and that's super profitable and all that comes to you. It's not allowed to go through the UFC. You make your own schedule, there's. No one tells you what to do or what not to do what you can and can't say you don't get some angry phone call
call from somebody says: why did you say that you know you're not supposed to talk about that? You talk about where the fuck you I can't believe my life meant, so I'm I'm doing the best I've ever done in my life. So can like this, seize the possibilities, the future and you'll. Look. You got to take what you can take it take. What's there, you don't put it aside to try to pursue like this potentially lucrative. Career as a UFC champion. You know what the differences, though, is he went. Nineteen is nineteen he's a freak athlete. He's already getting notoriety he's not he's not going to be able to take that step into movies like in the dinner George, St Pier and less he's super successful Sofia. Has one foot out the door now yeah you're about to get eight the fuck up in that division at one hundred and fifty five yeah may
maybe, or maybe he doesn't really have one foot out the door? Maybe these are just things that come his way says sure. If I have the time I mean who knows will true, who knows son relationship he has or how disciplined he is. I don't know only time will tell, but all the things are laid out in front of him. When you see that I mean that's, we kind of missed with the Ronda Rousey thing. We didn't really talk about it He had been able to pull it off. She was so successful. We thought she was the exception exception and then Holly Holm said not check this out walk. There is no set, my mother, Fucker yeah. That's why I think that fight was good for martial arts 'cause. It showed you you can violate the rules of engagement. You have to be prepared for any type of engagement that the fight it's a fight, Connor said that he was I let no distractions. You know, I think everyone can learn from the Ronda fight. There's no distractions for me smart, and he goes I've been offered movie tv deals heels. I do not care about it. There's no distractions for me not hear them like this mother fucker is some
partly because of Rhonda. Didn't do all those things if she put all those things aside and just went to a spartan like existence from the jump and never never very, never varied from her course and had standing training every step of the way. You're you talking about like truly unusual athlete. Truly unusual outlier of an athlete is someone who's got that kind of focus and try it. Yes, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. Man it'll workout for the rest of the world. Well, hopefully it works out for her yeah. Well, I mean yeah, hopefully, but then again hopefully works out for Holly to I agree. Men have to kind of look at it that way, but what's worked out like if an e, you know I know, runs some tier lists only say work out for time out. Bank account yeah she's fine, but it's more than that for it's a it's a course You know, I'm safe so depends she's fine, because the way she lives she's not living like Scrooge.
He does she's, pretty frugal for someone who's very wealthy show has a small house. You know she's, not out of control, so think of that bye. Then also think about what did she do now? You know she didn't opportunity for real greatness. An for a moment had achieved She had this opportunity to be the first ever UFC Women's bantamweight champion. She took and then ran with it smashed everybody in front of her and became his gigantic superstar until she fought Hall, but now it's like it will to deserve the whole game Board had is changed, everything's changed, the reality has changed, every has shifted and you need to adjust to this new reality. I I I I I feel like women's fighting is kind of similar to box somewhere in box, and if you lose a fight, you kind of women's division. It's now
not that deep, so we lose a fight, you're kind of fucked isn't, which is as soon as you lose this kind of yeah. I know you were great, but there's a little astricta now right which men men? That's not that way. So, let's say Connor Jose. You know they can go back and forth they're going to be fine, maybe maybe it's interesting, eating right man so interesting, and you know what how about the fucking Strawweight division is so shallow that you've got Paige Vanzant, who I love, she's fucking, so so, Grampian Aggressive and she's already number. Seventy three know how 'bout roses I think rose records two and three or some roses ranked number twelve or something is that which is ranked was right on that issue. She might be high I mean there's some girls ranked like oh yeah, I'm talking to record. So I got your eyes fighting is ranked number twelve. What is she's right three roses record. My voice is being three or so she's phenomenal, she's, bad phenom and she's. Why more than she does a lot of like a really explosive things like she does she's flying armbar, very, very dangerous, but that what that is a God, Damn great fun fight
right, but it's not a lot of those in that division. There's no like she's, like pro page being that young and that talented and that, like she's fun like she smiling, is great. It's all funny games to win that fight and you fight Fucking you wanna have that demon who's going to fuckin rearrange your face in five rounds or Claudia Gedalia, who is a fucking destroyer as well Clages nasty man that girl's nasty. You know what I heard. I heard I'm not breaking news, pretty kind of a rumor. They might announce it already in the press. But Claudia and Joanna, are the next tough coaches. I like that. Do you yeah I like that like that fight was a split decision, fight, good fine, you don't like them as coaches for coaches. Honestly, I don't like drama a phone, a watch, real housewives. Beverly Hills. I watch drama. You know I want to watch fights. I want to watch fights I'm with you, Joe, but the ultimate fighter is along.
Process yeah. No, I understand I don't particularly like the fights on the ultimate fighter that much now I don't need. I could be wrong with that's a rumor. I heard from a legit, of course, but you know most of the guy and the ultimate fighter. I appreciate the fact they're learning and getting better and then, but when guys get gassed out in the middle of the first round and stuff, it's all like I I know how hard it is to even do what they're doing don't get me wrong. I'm not demeaning them, but in order for me to really want to pay a lot of attention to fighters, they have to achieve a certain level because you've seen that level, I've seen it too many times. So I see so many like, like you Mya Hall, when he was on the ultimate fighter. I was like oh ok, he could do some dance motherfucker do some damage Robert Whittaker say: oh ok, you know there's guys
guys you see they go alright. This rare dude, it's rare like last night or whatever earlier, not last night, two days or whatever they ask me on the ultimate fighter. Who do you think can be successful in the UFC? Who would you pay money to see? My answer was no one but Praino one right now. They have a long ways to go, who actually in to get to the UFC a long ways to go. The answer is the guy who is the youngest who's. The most focused was the most attention that you could put two who is the best athlete who's in the best camp death Camp with all those things all those So can you capitalize on your experience there and learn and grow? It's a great farm system to great farm system problem is you're taking like people that you know they might not be fully. They sprouted yet any thrown right into the the mixed martial arts super interesting because yeah exactly because the ultimate fighter it used to be guys were, you know, tune o three and now and then you know you're on that show and then kind of a huge following and then you're in the US
We can have a couple of buildup fights, but at least you have a fan base. Well now it's like these guys are they get launched right into the mix? I think Roy Nelson, which had no business fighting the time then like six months later, writing cable can zaga number from fighting an ultimate fighter with two fights the Gabriel can saga lock, the former heavyweight champion. Contaminants like Jesus Christ. That is the trickiest thing about going from that that show right into the big leagues what what the fuck happened in that one dude that fought F rain, Escudero and Ephraim Beedham everybody was law. Picked bottom Dana was like he's like you, like, Amanda, basically being overly penos fighting tonight. Disease is on the card I using. So he was a talented kid. Well, yes, one of those guys, you you, you see him against guys who are of a lesser caliber and he looks like a monster. Yeah bill, never call mansion Silva ever well. You know, I think, it's hard to
judge when you watching people that are fighting people, that aren't that good God Damn looks shredded there, though it's like, should show hands out guided Do you have some weird problem where he was like blacking out? Did you have some? some serious issue like like you would have like, like a fainting spell or something like that, a medical issue, fainting goat, It is something wrong. He was out for awhile news fighting all around and then he got back to the UFC. I thought other places, I'm just it rose in Van Sant said. The sexiest final time had to be sectors doing in the leader is that TIM means versus John Howard, email, us, the dirty bird song, all the I don't even know this is happening. This is tonight. What is it on now? Actually, no is it on fight pass Roberts. Court fight is on really Jesus Christ cases. A few fights for you to to means that is a bang up
fight. Bandits, a great fight. Tattoo means is nasty, he's nasty mean he got caught by Matt Brown, but not after he tag map there's a fun fight. Man was a very fun fun, dirty birds, fun to watch. He super technical and he's in Albuquerque Guy outside of Greg Jackson, Jim here's, another gem, hb or something like that. I forget, I forget I showed in Hb, pull it up, I'm not sure, but Tom is this trainer? Why? Why am I blank John. How Bon ton VON is Tom. Vaughn is trying to say which gym or no fine she's a Jim Miller's, a good one? Oh yeah, she sa Chisa. I know I didn't even know that that Jim Miller's was fighting I'll fuck, Koran, one Jesus Christ. Clearly cron yeah she's a little beast: God, damn there's some crazy, ass fap.
What's going on, it's crazy? What what an amazing time these three days are not almost like. There is a lot of fun, it's overwhelming wealth of goodness it happens over three days, my brains, likable and man. This is what's going on right now, this fight yeah cause, guess where dad dues set yeah. It's an awesome time to be an MMA fan are going to go to Abi on Sunday Is the sun and it's invitational yeah? Are you going yeah fuck me back I'll, go with you what time a wild ride. Man I fly in early in the morning. I think it starts at it starts at four three or four anything's starts. I don't know I'll go for sure. My restart, let's talk about it, will find out with the stars. Well, let's find out find out time. The Eddie Bravo Invitational starts. I know I had.
Enough time to get home and take a nap and then head out and it's almost sold out folks. If you thinking about going five o'clock, five o'clock, twenty three hours, and what is the what's? The name of the the theater at the the venue, the or. I am in downtown, which is an awesome theater. It's really cool fucking old theater, but it's it might be sold out. Now it was real close to sold out up until, like last night, so I might already be sold out. But if you want to go see really fucking exciting Jiu Jitsu Comp, and you're interested in martial arts. Your instant you're interested too. Even if you've never competed you never trained. This is the one to go to because well. It's like a great bunch of killers that
inside the brackets, including Gary Tonon, who was one of the best in the world in in but he's fucking sensational he's a killer and any proper goes. Who's uh. As a brown belt. He was a world champion name. An orchard is in this was also one eddies. Blackbelts is elite. There's like a whole bunch of like really good high level talent and the sis, The eddies created the way they reset the fights They they battle it out. They have a certain time limit and then, after that time limit, if there's no one, no one is finished anybody, then they put them in positions like they'll start off with you on a guys back with an over under hook with both hooks in and he saved we go and then, if he apps you, then you get to start in that same position and it's sort of like overtime rounds in wrestling sick. It's a great idea, first, I was like boy. I don't know about that, but then you see it live. We go all this works and it's fucking
So far, the most entertaining the most well done just to show their, as I think, what's the website that they can go to if they want to Eddie. Bravo invitational dot com, that's what it is any Bravo invitational dot com, if you want you could put, you might be able to still get a couple of tickets for the Orpheum, but it might be hold out, but you can watch it online at Budovideos. What is it booty? Video is dot com go there and I'm sure Eddie Bravo's twitter page has all the information as well as tenth planet Jj, dot com. I think we're out of time. We have time yet a man. It's been fun, always in a lot of clock. Town with from your home. This is a wonderful time if your name and in fact the best man. This shit is the best. Alright, the kid live: yeah, Cisco, Sacramento in Seattle, San Diego Vegas baby allowed that sells out in advance. So kid on it. Your folks, alright everybody and we'll see you next week bye. Thank you. Every
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