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always knew that she, a scientologist honestly and I don't really know that much about Scientology and I didn't know that she had grown up in it- whole life, and so she shared or stored. Today she talked about her leaving the church and she's like Old church, just leaving Scientology and also she talked about the experience of doing her, show on any which, sir, A highlights. All issues that she and other people have faced and families are faced and its Harper. in a lot of ways, its eye opening in a lot of ways, and I think it's it's very brave of her because she's being very honest about her own struggle to sort of find herself. Now I don't want talk any more about it. I want you to listen, conversation and hopefully enjoy it and on. I think it's gonna Can I give you some unique insight into how the Mai and works under these

very controlling ideologies like the one that she was sort of raised in not sort of was raised in I'm talking too much give it up fully remedy. Logan experience, my country, ok, room had abandoned all crazy talk, and I I was good. It was yet if we could talk first war is good. here. You tunneling alongside our great haven't, you do too, and citizens can Queen spent a long time. And I found out about you know the whole Scientology. I knew you were into it back then, but it was one

Those things where I heard about it yet and I met my goose, pretty fuckin normal for a time tell it right! Well, I am a large able, once tuna said the same thing like pretty normal nice guy Kelly Precedence, pre normal, generous normal. Yes, you know it's. I guess you get deeper, get to know them well and it might get a little weird. Yes, yes, because that's the thing is scientologist, good people. They really are at stake. They really, as I did believed that we're doing amazing things for the world. So they go two. It thinking I'm helping myself from helping other right, but Then, as you like you sad as you get more and more and by the way you don't really get close to scientologist. When your sign like you, we are not so in your nonsense. Morality is correct, like every thing that I did, and they do is for the purpose of

setting a good example, being a good person been good friend. So to get you in tourism, Does it does a purpose in that like? I would never tell When I was in a non scientologist my real problems, it would be kind of bad for the church to ever appear human, oh to a non scientologists setting a bad example like it would actually be considered like a transgression. If I told you Joe, oh yeah, my Friday, when my mother writing what my husband, nor I would never tell you those types of things, because it would be bad pr for the church wow so that something that your taught correct now you you can't. I grew up in it how old were you when you nine? I think when my mother Larry remember Pre Scientology a little bit, and you know what I remember Pre Scientology was. You know I had it Mary Catholic Sicilian, Father who Ino believed in

Punishment believed in not taught like what did I talk to you know where you're talking to that kind of guy, where I like my My dad says at the head of the table and then we don't talk back at all or you know so That is kind of what I knew and then we were baptisers. Catholics was my mother, wasn't really religious, my mother's jewish? Is you know so she? But she didn't he any kind of religion growing up? My father, of course, was catholic, so we got baptisers Catholics and the only Tommy want to churches with our grandma warrant to visit her, and you know in the city and my dad on holidays, so that Any kind of all. I remember Pre Scientology and my mother meeting my step dad he was in Scientology. He got her in as loss but right away right away. So that was what part of the deal correct we and by the way you like, we went from like don't talk to your slogan to to

Hey. We see you as spiritual beings. We want you to talk to us. We want you to communicate like you're, just your you're, not children, your Minos, spirits in a little body, and so immediately that kind of indoctrination begins that you're, not child and so egoist children. You have kids, you know that always want to be grown up so that that really starts two's work. This kind of idea that you're in a leaders that your your ego becomes kind of stroke does. It like your very powerful and you returned and you came back and you found yourself back picture mother, because your new should get into Scientology in your very strongly, and your very strong call to my sister, you picture mother. You have had your mother, but as a reason to find your way back to Scientology now ass, a child. Remember you, you wanna, be more, important than you are kids are always try to exercise their power. You know so that speaks to something

decided you that, like I'm bigger than a kid, I'm more than a camel spiritual being in a little body, and so it sets up that kind of a Asian, very early on. Did you like it because it made you when you are young, a major feel like ok. Now I can express myself better that I'll feel suppressed. Laugh you act like a scene. I ran I'm going round my dad, who tells me you know, shut the fuck up and walk when I talk to you and you sit in that chair and you don't have any thoughts listening to two years. much an important being, your big being, not a word to use the law, those words big beings, you're, big being and so you see you start to feel very important. You start to feel that your powerful that these are not bad things to make its feel, but this is the way call

work and you don't realize I Joe until you out you don't realize any of this was really going on, because I've heard people call it a call throughout my thirty plus years and- and I was offended by, I was deeply if, ended by it, and I couldn't even allow myself to believe that I was in a cold and so all these epiphanes are only happening. You know, after the fact While I was watching scholarly documentary once on Christianity, and they were referring to it as the cult of Christianity and dumb. It's it's it's that word is correct were really want to just look at in terms of the actual literal definition of it, but when any its automatically got this negative connotations. Yes, the word TK and people think you're, Brainwash, you're lost their theirs

there's a natural inclination that people have to be tribal. There's a natural inclination, people have to be on a team and we like it when we're all together. Yes, you know, I know you're Scientologists, Amazon autologous work together in this thing, everybody else doesn't get it right now. Yes, that's it. feeling right, yeah and your taught that you it's not even just that you think it joe you. You are towards that. You are the elite of the world and then, by the way, you're going in every single day. It's not like! I'm going, I'm going Easter ongoing Christmas. You know it's an every Dana's. So what did you do? every day like when you say you went and got duking queens and then after rehearsal, I'd have to dry if the Hollywood and put in my two and a half hours a day, two and a half hours every day, yet every minimum watch out known a minimum, ok son, then, if I couldn't like, let's say on a tape day, I couldn't knows there from nine in the mornings. Lieutenant nine. As you know, I'd have to make up the time on the weekends or have to make time on my hiatus. So I'd be they're all J,

night, what have you wanna? Why on vacation or something very rare that scientologist regular vacation I'd have to make up the time I'd have to make up the time back, I'd have to put in our weekends like it lets say of my schedule. Was you know, twelve to two ready to go in that I have to go in one to six or one to ten or nice, and so there is in every Dana's of this indoctrination. It's not only that there is. Is it policies right, you're, studying the policies old, an all night you're. Looking up word, you don't understand your being tested like after you read an l one hundred no one who is policy than your test. It you go into the room they go. What is a definition of this? What is the definition of that? So it's it's almost worse wit occult expert on, and he said it's worse. I hope your cause. You actually brainwash yourself, because you have to study the policies of the church and then you get tested on it, and you have to look up debt words. You don't understand you to put them in sentences have to write essays.

do clay demonstrations, so you're, really brainwashing yourself and your speaking all the same language. You are all working towards one goal. and that is very intoxicate like it is to feel like you're saying to be tribal, to be part of something imagine being something part of something that you thank and an hour told, and our reading every day is the most important thing. That's gonna save mankind. You are doing the work that no other group is doing and so you believe that you start you want to believe that you want to believe. I more than just an actress are more than just this: I'm saving the planet and now all this stuff, you doing you go in for two and a half hours every day in our you try. To move your way up, the ranking system again get a chart right right and everybody who has worked on that one.

There's like the inductive like the little courses, they're called self improvement courses, and these are the things that I people like me would say like when people ask me about the money right. I say: well, there's courses for thirty. Five dollar sixty five dollars. You know it's all It's very affordable like these, these lines that were to what to say it's not an outright lie. It's it's omitting, a lot of data right because really that the next the follow up, up to that is, but when you're really scientologist gonna cost you a half a million easier, what whatever it's gonna be, but its pre set prices, so you start on the self improvement courses, and then you get onto this actual chart called the bridge and the bridge is very precise, nobody's doing different things were all working at the bottom, all the way up to the top, which was eighty eight, thus the most enlightened eligible or eighty. Eight now lie anymore because the people

who were in Scientology and fifty six and seven these who got two o t aid were like this is some bullshit. It wasn't what I thought it was gonna be, and so a lot of them laughed at its high mature Scientology was big because it was almost. It almost spoke to the time that it was where people wanted free thinking, but also wanted to be morally on the right path? You know not wrong. Drugs like they were, you know, maybe not part of that, but they they kind of didn't want to be held by certain our religion, but they did so once virtuality in your life and I think it spoke to the people of the time. So I dont think here. You're gonna find new scientologists. You know. In the world by using the internet, took a big truncated up. Yes, because of the information information was very, hard to get exam lore, oh yeah Phronsie. Well, let's say you are scientologist and

one day to see you and I said he would have been a Joe where's your wise, United Scientology anymore, o, nay, they tell me whatever they want to tell me about you to discredit you he's an enemy to the church, and here the reasons why and they could say anything and they do say anything that immediately makes me not why to talk to you ever again: one common enemy, really an enemy Wonderin enemy. I can actually talk to you. I can't actually talk to you. The policy says that Since you are declared label this oppressive person, my association with you, would then make me a suppressor person and then mean enemies. I can't actually talk to you, but they could tell me whatever they want to tell me about you, and so I couldn't actually find out

are these things sure about Joe but now with the internet with social media, is harder and harder to tell people whatever you want to tell them about the person, because the information is there, you have to want to seek it out. I didn't seek it out. I didn't want to seek it out and when I did seek it out and I go to church, they say that's a lie that such true here's, the real data and they have actual doctored You know the date actually doktor things that make you believe me, you don't you're, not gonna, go and take it to her and analysed you never go. Take it to somebody goes us a real document. You, you tend to believe the church you're you're in and raised and most of your life. Now it had to have been positive in some way. For, of course, it gave you some confidence. I have you a true belief in yourself and that you on the right path, because

had seen some interviews with you. You are talking about it when you were in it and you genuinely seem to believe that it was very beneficial to, of course, is basic. morals and basic tools to help you in your life, but remember, was an educated, most scientologists or not educated. And so we must work as a college, education and innovation yeah. I left school in the eighth grade, really yeah Scientology. he does not value a traditional education, they value Your education, see. I want a never woe. How old were you hold your hand, wasn't even though its greatest like thirteen. Yet right. So when you were thirteen, you just stop going school, my school and I was doing Scientology. I was working like literally working selling car insurance and you were working at thirteen or Scientology companies, and so was my sister holy shit. Yet, but people ethical well, how come they? Nobody?

did anything? How come chopped services whose calling them who sang and not to mention where where then lying our parents, relying saying they're getting of private education they're getting tutored at home, or they're going to a Scientology school, which is partially true, Were I got my g d, you know so did things like that to learn to but the original question, what what was it? Because it was about me learning I was about late. Was your original question goes anthrax how to be of some benefit few light exactly incidents, Amy confidence, because I thought I was getting on looking at these big words music dictionary? Unlike you doing more, school than you could have ever imagined, even as an inner right and an U. I started to

we all like? I'm I'm really accomplishing something, I'm so. Yes, there there are benefits to it, but I didn't realize, because I was a kid that the things you're talking about the beneficial were in the real world. I thought they were. They were invented by our Hubbard, as most people do believe that so using, where these things beneficial. I would have learn these things as Sunday school. I will learn these thing right, being a good human being being around other people, but regardless, if I was brainwash into believing that I was doing great things and learning gray things in that his work, even if it does work. If I say hey Joe the, if you do the steps you take these steps and you really truly believe in me, you can then attributes Leah Agency Lee as an amazing life. Coach. Tony do these things and without her I can't You know things, but not knowing that it was available to me in the real world, because I didn't I thought of Herbert, had come up with these things.

Now. When did it start to unravel for you? Well, it's like a law. Is it wasn't just one thing I think people always think what was the one? It wasn't just one with a slow process, as it was six year. of me, basically, I was like begging them for these things, not to be true that I was hearing about where Graven was, for example, when I went to Tom Cruises wedding, and I saw the leaders- wife wasn't there and the David scabbard choose the head of the church of Saint Ology,

his wife wasn't there. I want. I asked the question- and I said, weary Shelly. Why is his assistant here scatter people to scattered, and then I was told I didn't have the F in rank to be asking about him about the leaders, wife, it wasn't that she was just an average person that I didn't have the right to ask about the rank the rank while and so that that would begin. Ok, that was the beginning. But then, when I went to my friends know when you're my friend, I consider your family, like. I really do. I take my friends very seriously and my friends of thirty five you you're looking at my sex Mean nails Reno. You want Nelson sexy, nails, search, emails, you do a very nice nails, giddies or sexy, though you said, nice are why you know I'm different than other people comes Nels, apparently with his other relation. What no one

a real. What does that mean unglued on now, they're, not appreciate the more fighting at a lot about you. I'd like to do a couple hours with motor talking about other things, do have to hold on to camp has it ought to hold. I can't let you do have to work along with your non cologne wearing. Ok, you too, to fill out. So ok, so What was I do? Miss Gower of the right to question, however, then see my friends relation to it. Where I said, will you to get involved in this, I think, there's something really off we were able to missus gas going on What I know what's going on, I saw Tom have been negative role in our church which had a problem with, could remember you learn very early on what L run harboured says. Is the law there's? No, it it's not up

of rotation. There's no assimilation of data, it's just what it says: it's not what drove them over a hundred said what Leah things it's, what it says run and that's very strict- is always what does L a reach say? Read it again, what does it say and it's very tough, so I was very by the book person, I'm a by the book person. Ok, if I have a recipe I followed exactly, I don't do pinches under that shit. I do exactly how it says in the recipe, and then I see how it goes if the Scientology is about word for word. What does its My understanding and the policy is there is no celebrity that should be treated differently than any permission: and I was seeing behave and I was seeing things that wouldn't be ok that are not ok for the average freshener but were being made to be ok,

for tat and it didn't matter to me that he was Tom to me. I saw him as a team member in the church of Scientology and we are working on the same thing. My for I was a better example of Scientology, then he wasn't. I wrote reports on him like an internal reports on him, which realize work. I'm getting me to be a target for the church. I didn't realize his position in the church you wrote internal reports. Yes, we're all require to write reports on each other. Jesus Christ. Yet as a pole there's a policy about writing reports. So if I Let's say you are you're sayin, Paolo, ok, you and I go out one night right like not like that So now get right. You seem uncomfortable nano you day because you said nice as a poster You said nice, one of us

I've got a nice and about what I said. Ok, I think our prevailing lemme, sexy and Elsie said they're nice, they're, nice, the beautiful sort, better it's a day. You work alone. I feel like you have better adjective like. Are you Oh, my god, we're your wife comes out as oil of Jody using fine now see what group is a great beautiful lovely. We will largely clinical. You have kids. Oil comes from you, I think different adjectives. Different words have different meaning, depending on who, what person they come from and how the person with the intent behind it, they think well beautiful, you're beautiful, I guess yeah I mean evangelists his own beautiful. Let's go back the internal certain tat. I must have a clear yes, our lives. Are you go you and I went out. We were just went out one. I won't going dinner right. Go group of us somethin you date. I saw you doing

something that's not like for the book. I have to write a report on agree. Allow to drink, not real. I you will forget, lit up Probably writer important Satan's overcome forget our age would love it. I ok are each other, so that yes, so that I read a report on you and it's a Joe was acting in approach. yeah, he was making fun of IRAN hovered vision and while to joke, integrate on hovered as policy call jokers integrators. Jokers and a greater yes, you when I would be very much I've been yes, I ve been trouble for the many times. ok, so I would have to write a report is already you you out, but have right you you up because let's say you went into like the next day for a session, and you said they said you know they do the check they do it can you every day you and upset you a present time problem or a? U withholding anything. Now, if you

a real Scientology would now that you probably shouldn't be drinking carrying on because, as a twenty four hour rule, you can't drink twenty four hours before you're gonna be doing a service. Remember your card to go in every day, so you never can drink right. and if you do you consider it a transgression. So That's on your mind that you with holding this information now, if you went on a vacation and you knew that you were gonna, make it up when you got back yet Ok, then digging you get me. Can you not going on is not going to get to see only time then crept or if you're, just not getting a service so if you are correct, you go in and you'd say, so I went out last line. I ordered how much are shots, and I made a comment about to El Ron, Hubbard or whatever it is, and they go okay great. When was it who do it with? Is there they to write down all the names? It's also being recorded, and the writing everything down who knew about. It will be the next question who knew about it. You take

LEO was there they believe. Was there ok, interesting than that person's gonna? Write Leah, knew about it and didn't do anything about it. Then I'd get full. Then why didn't you write a report on job cause? Joe just admitted that he was. in carrying on and you didn't write him up decisions. So it's a creates, a kind of environment, as a rat environment cracked? So I was, I was writing up Tom and I was writing a blatant scabs what'd. You rode up Tom for jumping on care. Chairs and being in a further I've always ring inappropriate is job we couches for what you did bride, I was a man who remember that road and John for further battlefield earth. I thought it was movie itself for While that movie was awesome, theirs grave. You haven't seen battlefield it's when my favorite unintentional got even joke. Now is terrible yet, but awesome because it so terrible ridiculous, so terrible becomes good. He cried is over the year out. It does after a while you're right it ass. He s like what's a movie with dancing one with was above Berkeley,

sugar genre. Yes, that's the best one yeah there's a rather the tyrant, movie. Yet it becomes awesome. Could yes so bad you like what the fuck are they doing right and it's been tat exact airline is yes, I got a field. Earth is right up the right, so I did things like that. Not that I was a great example. Nor am I a great example, but we can't road a whole thing about him. Jump up on Oprah, yes, by also listen, I were, I gave myself I'll buy. Inner is writing. I was writing myself. I was writing my mother up already my husband. He jumped up on Oprah couch because he was in love rights, possibly jumped you know what I'm looking for a way they they pulled me in and they said you note. Could it be that you're just not as high on scale like in life like yours, so basically there saying you like you're a bitch, so you can't you can understand that kind of love, because I was right. I guess, because I've been married twenty years, I don't understand, jumping on account, but there it wasn't a good example, because, because I cared so much about my church and

work that we are doing, and I didn't want the church to be seen as a joke or its or one of its senior member which is considered a lawyer scientologist, his was inappropriate, use out, align yeah, I just got an obligation. Might I mean this and are not perfect, of course, as many things that would weaken than a bad example in my every damn on a great example, but at the time I thought I was pretty pristine, Bolivia, now you fill out it's totally innocuous he's just on a couch jump at around having a good time. Yes, but he knew how serious Scientology was about clearing the planet. It did not go with our intentions and our goals say I was writing him off and I was running everybody up and I was running everybody up at the wedding. I thought our senior executives were, and I was wiring them back from ITALY from my hotel room, calling one of my

closest friends with scientologist and then I need your right. This unequal writers were read em, you write this word bade him and any to get us to the watchdog committee and I thank her for her and took frantic. I was frantic and I was heartbroken because I like seeing if you believe the Sea organization and and the people at the higher, in that her senior executives, Strada of your church are living a pristine and perfect life that you're trying to fire to the ear spending your day and night and money and taught like you. This is what we're trying to be, and I'm seeing not great examples of what this is now like is seen behind the curtain. I was like I dont want see this, and I really thought I was going to save the church. I thought my writing reports is like I'm going to take over the church, I'm going to get it right by l, DOT, RON Hubbard. I really still believe in the policies of Elrond.

just believe they are bending of rules for celebrity and ours. He's a celebrity who gives a shit, what he's doing like he's? Scientologist, first, a celebrity second to me. So that's why it's difficult! I don't wanna talk, should have another actor. we ve all met asshole actors and were not really supposed to be talking about them I mean it's just you know here that a lot you don't hear a lot of actors doing that other actors, but for me it was just a scientologist. so you take out these reports on him. I write these reports I am sent to Florida immediately. The mecca, the hub of psychology- that's right for interrogation no and I mean like interrogator, to fly out there. I fly out there. I am in the room, I'm in a room. You know, with with cameras with my person who is, is armed within for me. an unbeknownst to me of a stack overflow,

What's that were written on me by everybody who work for Tom US staff now, I found out about your report, so he decided that everyone who worked for him has to take out a report on, you, don't know what he knew, but that that is that the churches very much involved with his life. He staffed by people who work for the church. No non scientologist works for him, but it was, if you say something bad about this person. You are talking about God, and you and I was asked you have sexual intentions towards him. What are your evil intentions towards him? What you're evil intentions towards David Miss garbage? What are your evens engineers towards over an upward- and it was three months of this- it was, and I had to retract everything I said I thought I made it all about and see any of it to get out of there, and so they wanted. Came back allay they said they want to see you again here in celebrities on our so I went to slavery centre and they said

everything that was done to you was wrong, as I could be right. I know that we just want to let it go. You need to let it go, because if the fact that you're not letting go means that you're guilty of the crimes that you saying. Yes, we saying that everything was wrong. That was done to you why these not because they wanted me to come back because I was kind of like I'm not when I came back from Flores kind of not really a dedicated scientologist anymore, but I wasn't, doing anything to rock the boat with my family and how long were you in for it for three months three months of of dealing with this very much every day for Harry Mamma had to write apology line days so you're there. For ninety days, you darling, ironically, was during my hiatus on currently shit yeah yeah yeah, that's what I'm doing most of the time and

and we have a family you marry. My mother was air. Must my daughter was there, my husband was there and how much of the day you spending odour of order all day every day. Did you see defending your life? No, ok, gypsy. What is it? it's a movie where moral street and I forgot the ogoni anyway. They die. They go into the year the holding cell. Like you know the whole way where they're going to decide their fate. Are they going back to earth which is considered hell or they going on to Heaven and moral street lived a pristine life and they review your life right, at the end, they have judges and everything. So they review good moments in bed, moments of your life and then decide gonna go on you, gonna go back to Hell and moral street was of course pristine, but then the guy that key forgot just running, but you know they were looking at times- were hidden, stick up for himself for where he pushed out of something right, and so they were judging him pretty

harshly right when they were like you need to come back in the morning and like it was like an all day of light were viewing a hundred and twenty days of your life right moral strictly, they looked like five days in their like. Don't worry, just come back when you can out that was me, like my mother, was there to do some fluff thing and she was like come have lunch with me and my person was I'll, be back in ten minutes. Legal did a sandwich and eaten the elevator and need to be back here in ten minutes. It was like for me like defending your life, because my mother was just like she had. Should she didn't know what was going on she didn't you don't usually tell your family what you're doing I wouldn't tell my husband was happening to me because I didn't want to create, can you imagine this? I didn't know your husband in time to hold no, my husband's out. He was ever in. Bring me to emphasise how much are you made? Him made him a scientologist which is good cause you still kind of cool you're saying so he wasn't like you still can freaky a little bit. You know still believed in slapping an ass.

Once in a while, so like a kind of that lately that are worth more the boy you can't slab ounces of your now without any and every two. What about choking absolutely not here will be honestly. You would be considered like you really there's something really wrong within in other yeah, we'll use lever. No, I didn't think so. You say things like nice months. Anyway. So you therefore ninety days yeah you they have inadequate, I'm not telling my family. What is going on that because I don't want to create a better judge of the church? Ok, how crazy I don't know about it. You generally reviewing these papers, I'm admitting my kinds saying? Maybe I do evil, and maybe I do maybe I didn't see what I saw on young people write these blow. Your meeting with in Florida they assign you a person you'd, but you haven't met them previously. Now know that

some person with paper work, I'm going over your. Why they have you on the meter. They have you on the lie: detector tests, I mean on the lot. You know at the Cannes Utopia, yea you're, in a room, that's locked! Nothing doesn't do having read the demeanor. Well, it does something I don't exactly. I mean there is an actual explanation for it in the real world. It not smart enough to do to retail it to you, but if I to have a meter here and you had a thought I could show you. It does register that you thought some right, but you can't really differentiate. What those thoughts are now, but as an all, but as someone who trains or Scientology all your trained to do which what I was doing, I was training to administer Scientology. Two people was learning to do that. and I would learn to say Joe. What was I thought, what was at thought? I don't know what you're thinking, but I just know that you had a thought so ask you a question and I look at the meter to see that registered on the meter and regardless of what you I told her that were only gonna talk about what I see on the meter right.

And then is also its open suggestion right, you could say. Is this a moment where you had doubt? Is this a moment where you're angry yes and then the person us think? Why was it? and they start convincing you incorrect, while the first thing to do is they re UK any familiar discussing, Coconut Warner know how do you like that atrocious you loved? I did. love it. I also love your computer and brochure. This wants, as I loved everything he had Joe you really what that this narrow stuff. You know my father, I know that it's all everybody everyday may join zone. Re minutes is on sugar, pure tis to being new like pure something's, pure, so after this ninety days, be in their ninety days of being stuck in this area, and it must be, but I've marriage believe that I was really really really matter,

and to that they have probably a pretty grand establishment and clear water right. It's probably intimidating. I guess I'm a lot of like Carlton religions liked around no go to a leg of a pretty big place. It's a huge place but erased and you know you you're you're very familiar with it, but it is. When you realize your position in the church takes us as your backs feet to the leader and talk rose you realize will that that was scary to me, because it against every day, entirely. I've into everything you and taught is that everyone is some sort of spiritual being and everyone's equal cracked, and then you're a whole goal, as Scientologists is act for the greater good of mankind and sort of brings many people into this? Is you can as you're gonna help them right because it wasn't ever

I'm gonna get somebody in because I want screw. There lies up. It was always I want to get this person and I want them to be happy. I want them to contribute to what we're doing now. was the thought process that Tom Cruise being this huge celebrity worldwide figure that its very poor to keep him happy. Yes, and it is probably the main goal of Scientology is to keep Tommy what your boots and must be for him. Oh you see. That is something that the people say all the time to be like. Why is pot where men than estuary, Now Joe you know I've, never salt ocean deadly. Try right now, I'm scared. I should- Why would how does your stuff, friggin out loud sort stuff will now air and sea just keep a dirty. Like the ushering Woody meeting, one should make at night sake. One issue presented another man. This is my man cave men of your fuck about Yeah well

lab in her eyes and ran surprise hearing what I heard before drawing before you don't try to talk over me, jugs unanimous, you never had puzzled. No, I would suggest a little tiny amount for you. I think I like that looks just that. The recent something about gummy bears to me about your oh Jesus. Don't fuck with those coming back, That's all powerful. Ok, what are those are horrendous. So what happened anything yeah. You want on a journey on your life. It'll, give you extreme paranoia areas that are not fun. It's not. when you come out of it, it's very beneficial. Why? Because you realize you, it's all bullshit and then you're nervous about some things that it just highlights your vulnerability. I don't eat. It, takes your blinders away. That doesn't sound like fun? Well, it's not necessarily that fun. So you wouldn't know it again. Are you I do it all time becoming barometers to outdo Malta, really like the feeling of being yeah. I think it's good for you

good to be vulnerable. That's guys ready to understand is that to be the you're really just this phenomenon, but I haven't ism yeah loading through infinity and, I think I feel that way without it. Ok, then, you know need it. I mean several very well I want you to push it on me, a little bit you just gave up. I think it benefits. Allow people play your sensitive gives you a better sense of community, makes kinder already. I generally that ok, it it'll make you a more. I think it makes you a more loving person. I really believe I need it. Ok back is mixed ex feel better food tastes better married to a porter local autonomy that Europe has a little, that's all how important they do not have. yeah. Why don't you take them? I shouldn't say they like a boy and says that one

the celebrity we'll know those treatment, different treatment liberties. especially in Scientology right net highlighted. It is like nothing you could ever imagine it is so when people say it Tom doesn't leave because they have information on Hammer John that sought the recent. The amount of power they receive from this church is like nothing in Hollywood. It is like nothing. There is no reason for them to leave. This environment. Rosewood super beneficial for them to be attached to a cracked. Has employees they work forum. Always people take care as every need. Yes and there's a policy on how to talk to somebody. like the you wouldn't say, like you said go get me gotta, be a coffee and I wanted this temperature there's. No, I can't

There were five miles from many in over thirty months. There will be none of that kind of talk like not any cut. There's policy about, don't you don't talk back like ever. You don't step, but a line you dont give an opinion. You don't make a face, you don't make a gesture. You dont sigh. If you step out of line in any way you are dealt with by the church so smart essentially has servants correct, haven't people alive, one a lot and by the way, Europe a grudge. Somebody was staff like. If you can have it, I gotta do it all day or night, do it all day or night, but when you believe as a scientologist you're working for somebody who's single handedly is saving the planet and you deserve that kind of punishment that something different baby understand warmly that that's It's an abuse that is not justified, but it is justified because you both

I believe that you are single handedly saving the planet, Dervish YA, know get it so it is so he's the main figurehead right he's the main guy right up with Miss cabbage and then John Travolta somewhere, in that I think and was given what a designation called Cocoon, where they want cocoon, not can't calm, he ever com K age, a k, H an account after he's, given this designation of cocaine, which there is a policy that basically says you can kill another human being If you work conned, look the other way and he was given that he was given that by around hovered, don't we lay, I can do to make me feel companies will make me let where everybody got lamping are you are sometimes, clearly all because, as we all know very well, nobody takes I ruined because, like Heaven Coastal, don't

ruined this take augener, not are you gonna do with I wish I were Rwanda Jailbreak agreed that he would do some stupid shit with his hands or something that will never rehearsed. That would make cry from laughter. Yes, Eddie was really highly inappropriate moments that limiting the p almost feel, ok, yes, oh he's allow to kill. People. Do one are you I don't know I don't. I should go to the policy. Can I don't want to us? We get a full years was look the other way, so you have somebody said something wrong to John devoted its love Samara. Sorting cutter had off using clean up. The body is being as they are called. I had called ethics protection as has already responsible for dealing with that dealing with that. Yes, it is out of the room and he would know that yours would take care of correct and there is also another policy and, by the way, are the reason why I say these policies is because I dont like When people say Lee, I believe you, I don't want you to believe me. I want you to look it up where I want you to look for yourself and make your own decisions. I keep quoting this policy because I want people to look it up.

so that they can say that shit's, true she's, not talk, he shut intervene right, the policy called ethics protection. There's another policy called the responsibility. The response ability of leaders which he actually says exactly what you just said, that way. Quickly. You know the what you gonna do to protect the leader. You gotta, do it if you see a body than you clean it up when the leader should never know. I read going clear. By Lawrence Right, and I watched the HBO special on it and on its its stunning, yeah when crazy, accurate, crazy, accurate by way of the book, especially the book, goes into great depth about how Bananas, IRAN Hubbard was right and it's, It's so odd to me that

These are all this information is out there. The Asian out there remember you're, reading Ellen hovered words from Dianetics right the book one. This is the first book that we all required to read everybody's required to read. Everything that he's written aerodynamics to lobby that item a year. I ordered it was one those late night, infomercial things when it first moved ally I have always been into self help. Hisself helps Anthony Robin but bought all his tea, please to listen to it. On a walkman back in the day, read his books, So I thought it was more than me and I got put on a list and I got Sant pretty irritation for your years. Your orders- and I bet you I swear- I met you, learn to make money by that you get male after we talk interest yeah well. I went to one of those things when you sit down and you get a meter and you hold a thing like I asked:

oh yeah, Yoletta San Diego knows film. Some also you saw as they did a demonstration. Did you see it read on the meter, like the other girls together pinched? Hence, while the now watch out remember a pinch test, but I do remember. Holding onto these things, nude asked me some questions, but the guy was very uninterested. Less our disinterested. He just seem like he cannot like being forced Do it anyway, we are just going through the motions, that's where he seems super board. Ah, some I wonder. Had he not been super reward? Would you be followed, right now, no no, no, I was- I was doing as Guph like ten years ago that it was ridiculous. I was in San, Diego film and something we had this set up outside my will. Then we go in there and I was just in our hope, and I could we have a seat no way. No, I am, and I put on the Cannes and they now now now I don't give a fuck dangerous he's ITALY there very you know, Why

carrying in loving because they remember they do believe in what they're doing I did bright by what I was saying to you is the dynamics and dynamics of Harvard is writing that he's sciences right he's you Know- decorated war hero that he was a college educated. and so you're, not using the information out there, what information other than what were reading is? their mighty now would like more is now too late, but no scientologists allowed to read learns rates book they are not allowed to so they they didn't lax, insulating pillow. If you- and I were like friends, friends right and you had concern for me and Scientology and you can't even you, Sir Leon Really, I'm scared for you. I'm re read going clear I want another you're, ok, new names like enough. This is a good thing for your daughter. You know I was a joke.

You know me, I'm a person like I've been there for you, your white like come on. You know I don't Monday drawn or do not you not steal it right, just respect the fact that this is something I believe is helping me. Why would you asked me to look at something that's in time church or anti. What I'm doing? That's all you approach, but any would accept a Joe you'd like she's right It is not up to me to be telling her these things when she is a good person and heard Angelo great, like you, wouldn't you wouldn't push it, you wouldn't push, you would respect me enough, because you would know me enough to go. I don't want to do that. Hurts wrong. It's disrespectful If that happens very much cross aboard. Well, let anyone as outside, yes, and when I was logical that you're trying to do so working constantly with people that are not in the church.

You're right sets. You do how many issues are going to look to you and say head what I think it I think, you're in a call one, your position very few arrive, as you were one of stars, the show and everyone knew that untiring. Do you do that? Tonker? If you re very few, none none yeah Not so when he's gonna set, is it all a keystone mission impossible should like as it all Scientology employees that are currently surrounding him? Yes, so he's got like this wall of installation correct as all Scientology people correct, but the director, the writer that they don't have to recitals not at all now know but they're, not they're, not invading tongue. Space. They're not gonna, be disrespectful to their lead actor. They're, not gonna, go to Tom and go Hey Tom We don't know that our affiliation with you, you know, and what you're doing in the science holiday thing. You know they're, not gonna rock the boat. They hired him as an actor right in, but because of the way Tom Cruise is no modestly. But what I get out of here, misuses soup

focused like very tense turned on gas intense guy yet, and it probably benefits him having all the servants take care of olives every needs. We could focused my directly on his thing and just go for sulphur him. It's probably one hundred percent beneficial to Pierre oft, correct because the aid is, it is a world. That's tailor made to him in the end that is, is, is Scientology, would have rare position MIA it is for any human to ever find themselves in without, like being like the conqueror of a country or something Parada. That again again, I want to make the distinction between listen when you gained some success in this business. Thank God able to surrender self witnesses and and people to help you to to make your life easier. So you could focus on your work, but this is something totally different because behind closed doors

You are acting and being a different way and you know it. I know it, he knows it and anybody Scientology knows quite different. It is. It is about the mission of Scientology, so anything is justified. So behind closed doors, though He did front. It is nothing airline, nothing, nothing that would upset him, but you have to act and be a certain way around him. You cannot you just can't step at a line of the bounds of the policies of the church and you or you will be dealt with and you will be dealt with swiftly within your church and that seems to be quite abusive to me. I was punished for basically following my own policy of my church, offending my church and I can't be friends,

somebody who you can't be around that you can we read that you ve been getting punished by your church because of it, but that again, that wasn't really even the reason why I left I mean I was dealing with that I was dealing with it being interrogated at my expense, we're talking hundreds of them dollars? You give millions of Donnelly's? Yes, my that's insane and now they're they're they're turning around it. You know they have these hate websites. They create on everybody within minutes there. I saw your manager adorable Murmured the carries anything you didn't doing a lot less about what is that a job? I said in my book: ok, yeah, I'm all those things! Okay, you! Even if you catch me, you know in a situation my husband. It wouldn't change anything about what I'm saying it wouldn't change. A damn thing it doesn't matter within their intention is to try to. my husband, sometimes things in a source club. You don't think they're gonna catch him. What a girl somewhere

and sing innocently. You don't think that is yes, you can do all those things you can hire p eyes to follow us. You can get us in situations, but such change. Anything or trying to discredit you and it doesn't does melodies what you say is true Ex Clee, and it's not just me I'm not saying it you're living it bothers me is that it's become my crusades, though my crusade, it's my responsibility and I feel other people need to step up and take some responsibility. I don't want to be the only one saying and I don't wanna be other people, other actors, other officials. the the media they need to not make it about. May get some balls and say what you really think like. I was on twenty twenty right within hers and its apparent company to ain't it, and I did the show for somebody

else and and Dan Harris. I said what do you think of that like what do you think of Dan and he said I have to be impartial and I said: would you be impartial about abuse. So you impartial about this, and I named a few things. Any went well now and I said right: ok, you ring it s all and the truth of the matter, is I do think that of of this industry. I think this is like a ball was industry and those people who have symbols like you. Like Adam curled, there's a few people who are in the public eye. Sorry about that who are in the public eye that have had the balls to have an opinion. Don't make it about me brought these things are screwed up. The volatility was wise or being hurt and damage and you're in year defrauding p a lot of millions of dollars by your abusive

policies. Here you can make things confidential than you say this policy's, don't exist. Why don't you say they exist there? You can google them and see that they exist their defence. You are is a magnet point because you are a famous person, and so it makes it much easier to concentrate on the whole situation through you right. You know and eighty because of the fact that your AMOS person, because the fact that you lived most of your life in a church and makes it very We need to go through you, I'm a necessarily thing. It's a bad thing out and guess what I'm saying if I say this convention as a policy right right and they sat and then the next headline is Lee run. Many alleges that this connection, don't alignment alleging anything. Look it up right look at all right? Don't say that I'm saying it they're protect themselves legally. Probably that's why it's available for anyone to see what, because it probably gonna get sued but one

get sued in their policies. That's good ocean in I E. They would say that their misinterpreting at her. I thought her connection as oppresses, and it says exact what, when the church labels us oppressive person, They you are only you're. Only option is to disconnect so of children disconnecting their own mothers and fathers, that was one most disturbing aspects of your show right to see the damage that caused and see how devastated these pair its work and family members were: thou, that's horrible! That's really horrible, and you know- and you know what people say you knew the policy existed when you insane College. Why you re so surprise we were taught us. Oppressive person is then either evil with horns right. They like Hitler right now that you're, not thinking it's. My mother run my daughter, but when you get pulled in for something like this,

which is what they did in the end. They try to get me to disconnect from my stepfather. Then they try to get my stepfather to disconnect from my mother they did this whole thing when you start Father who brought you in the first put not- and this is another guy monogamy busy asking Crazier- yes, she's- a naughty naughty, Then she's been she'd been married to George. My ma am her husband for thirty years, so. You know the other guy ended up, leaving us there. He got us in Scientology Linen who love he took off. Oh Jesus yeah, so talk me through your return. So you go to Florida spend three fuckin months getting grilled every day The pressure on you and that's been proven tactic of interrogations at its always questioned by people that really like look at the ethical implications of interrogation. The problem is when, you put so much intention on someone about a certain things,

some so uncomfortable than it changes their perception of things. The point with a willing to admit a lot of things that may or may not be true just to get the interrogation over. That's right. It yeah yeah. I guess: They're? Ok out, I'm sorry, sir! We come back. I come back. I kind of like take a little bit of a hiatus from Scientology, but I'm not Creating wait, we say: take a hiatus you're, not doing the daily thing, I'm just not going in all the time. When you go in and then maybe once every month once a month, instead of every day having a deal, it was a big deal, then they got me back. Then they have a big meeting with me and they go. We want you to come back. We know Europe sat like the whole thing was just screwed. Ah, let us come back and I and I wanted specifics, what was messed up. I want you to tell me writing and then you should also refund all my money that you spent that I spent having to do this. Then they show a policy that there are no refunds, and if I ask for a refund, then I'm gonna get declared a suppressing her

from a legal and so the money that is spent go in Florida in three months down there. That's what you wanted a route fun correct, I wonder how many millions that you guys don't know now, because I said and in their defence I dont think its right to get your money back on something that you feel you received right a server. You received right problem that I have is scientologists pay before you go proposition. There are, if not tens of thousands of people who have money sitting on account that they can't get because they have a refund policy. I can't I can't just call the church right now and say I want to briefly because an analog talk to me. So it's a catch way too. So you're only person that you could talk to in the church of the person who deals with refunds, but they can't talk to you. Because your declared an enemy to the church so also their holding millions and millions of dollars of people's money that they can't get back because no lawyer is gonna, take on the churches Scientology for free, but you know

the average guy who has fifty thousand a hundred thousand dollars on account. He or she is never gonna, see again, so you come back No, you you! You get to them. have this meeting with you. You say that you want to get your money back, they won't give your money back and how does it go from there? They said you know you you're gonna be interrogated because you now acting as an enemy to the church because we are asking for your money back rat, it's a bad sign. Then I said: ok, now it just kind of out opened up a little bit of a wound. Then I started saying we're Shelly, okay, now one! answer were Shelly is cause. I had been writing her, showing Miss cabbage, correct the leaders, wife, and I said I unaids- it's gonna get bad for you guys, because now I started going on the internet and I started seeing stories of senior executives getting beaten in the church like Debbie Cook and might render and armed walked, and I was seeing all these names and I was even though they were actually beaten, physically beat

one reason for looking the wrong way, Dave Miscarriage, for saying for reciting for rolling their eyes for being tired. For we got on a wide yawning in front of my something. Yes, so someone beat you write or had, or he has somebody beat you and MIKE Render and Marty Rathbone were part of that right were part of that senior executives Strada. That was up in verse, I county, where they have a place called gold gold base, and that's where these incidents were allegedly taking place. So I started googling that sort of going into the church and saying I'm googling this information, and I want to know why these people are saying the same thing that their stories are over and over again and then I'm seeing stories of families being declared suppresses people their own. He ain't seen other high up in the church, and their families are being force

then you're. Be then your presented with this is a lie. Looked Marty MIKE Mike Render admitted that he beat people and Marty rising, but that's a difference there admitting it. There are meaning that they did this under David, Miss direction. You're, saying that there lie they're not lying about their doing it, but there about having received? It does not make sense to kneel vetoes over again? These stories kept coming up and they kept when I would ask sure they would put me in a room and go? What are your crimes? Who were you talking to? Why you talking to enemies of your church and it will just ass? It was now my questions were never answer as it's a jeep. Does this church ever do anything wrong Disease Church ever do anything wrong? Is every body and evil asshole once they leave. Is that you're telling me. So what would happen? If you said that my mother was then I just got a book. the view that my

Mother is an evil person and all these horrible things are saying about my mother's wants to believe you, and the answer was don't believe me believe, though, whereas Elway would accelerate say and then they have a policy on what the cellarage say read this read this allowed. What don't you understand? What is this word me? What is that? word wrinkle. Look this up. You have misunderstood word here. If you don't understand that anybody who attacks your church is a criminal like this is the kind of thing you all right. So this is what you gonna do when he came back to allay. We yes slowly started. Separated, yes, did ever give you. One has been gold medals like Tom Cruise Guy. I dont outline

a huge of ward for donating another million too large and an end its it's so crazy. To me that everybody who leaves is somebody who was an axe to grind apostate a big it could have been called a big it because they they they go to the one place you can go to, which is don't don't disrespect my religious beliefs, raw right and then they can call your big I'm for religious freedom and for the first met like that. Doesn't their hiding behind and o Koyo bullshit Ray celebrity, who says that shit, because they know what they're doing I did it too. I did it to jobs Y know what they're doing wrong. Anyway, no that I know which is even sicker you terrible. Person have against you on us. Why cause you're a fiery and you leave you enjoy this combat. There is poor, of you that enjoys clearing asked. Why I thought about this. When the whole things first started going down she's like a terrible person to like to leave the church cookies,

a talk show to the under time now Did you hear me like a bad was in jail? If you told me tomorrow, and I really just getting to know you today- I mean I've known- But we don't know knowledge are the rain but Emily a kind of like you, like your you're cool value, How can you smile with your eyes, which is a thing that I loved about Kevin like that was wondering eyes about Kevin like this, like a smiling behind their eyes. Like there's a smile, I always find it to be kind. Now you can be a total dick and I don't know about it, because I don't listen to podcast. Ok, what are you dick, ok, because I hear like why leave your jewels Donald walk in I hear from one person to ok. Let us clearly said ok, but here's the thing it You call me tomorrow and said: ah I'm having a problem with mine because he because he said I'm encroaching on his property. My kids swing said is incredibly, I would be so, but I would be

I would find it every resource. I could help you. That is who I am I not their mother Teresa. I will get upset about I, if I see anything on the three women I get involved and shit, I've always been involved in other people's business. Our I, if I could, into your house. I will spy on you. I will do so. I will, if I go into your house, I'm looking in your drawers, I'm in your shit, I'm in people's business all the time and if I'm in a restaurant I tell Angela and speak to me cuz. I want to hear what's going on next to me, everything era but but but if I see people being bullied, if I see people being unjustly hurt I saw you. I have always says, and people who know me know that's true the boat, so this if Miss cabbage wife situation deduct resolved. Now I filed a missing persons report with the LAPD.

And then I found some pictures of the guy who is in charge of my case. Speaking at the Scientology event on human trafficking, Dawson police officer, yet you charge looting, paid to speak at the celebrity centre at a human trafficking that its Lubbers and our Scientology That seems mass of conflict of interest. He think. Ok, So then so, then that's funny! So then After that, I called the door similar tend to us. And I said so what's the deal, because I had given a letter with the police report. That said was to Shelly, if they found her Shelly go. This man now I'm gonna, take care of you ll, take care of your legal fees. What's going on. There is wrong. You have no idea because sometimes it they have. No telephone They have no male inner out. They are not allowed to leave the base. If they leave that base of Riverside County, they are accompanied by security or handler sheathing. As a prisoner,

aye aye if she's alive and well. The second best case scenario, would be yes that she's being held prisoner, if not by her own mind if she's alive and well right. Oh, you did what didn't she really some sort of a statement or someone say someone did. I dont know who is from terrorism. Europe is that it is right that they said that they had made contact with her and she didn't want to be found. I said Did you see her or what she's being with somebody? speaking on her behalf, you ready for the answer. That's classified with the Police- and I said, are you sick? I said, Sir, you sit there something wrong with you. Am I doing something wrong? I filed the rope. or you know that right, like you know that I The report I thought. Maybe he was confused and you don't to my cousin, I said not, is like I filed the report, cause you're gonna get me the information I need to know. If you saw her or the the off,

shows that you sent their saw her. Did anybody give her my no! If it did you did they. and while she ok was she did you take her off the base? Did you say you want to speak to her alone? He said I can't give you any of that information. Could you imagine the and I had to spend more money, Joe because this is not free. I spend more money on a lawyer to do a follow up on this public information act, I ask specific questions. Who did you see? you see her. Why she alone. Where did you see her once you look like didn't gimme, information legally, I you can get information pay to two more dollars. Okay, we pay the two more dollars and then the thousands as a cause me to get a lawyer to draft up the letter. so it still ongoing. I stood on having answers so She just sort of vanished. She stopped going to events lay behind by the way she is called her official title is called C, o b communicator chairman of the board communicator. She

who is by his side twenty four hours a day so imagine going from seeing somebody's a permanent like that's not like. Oh sometimes, your assistant work. Sometimes this is a person worked around the clock for him and end was his wife. What is going to happen? I dont know which is why a father have you heard anything new. So no one who used to be a part of the church has contacted. Do there would be no ok. Anybody who would anybody who I would need to talk to me is up behind gates in river side, county at this gold base? Anybody that I would need to come out and talk to me, give me and from Nation, the FBI information, would be behind those gates. where are they getting money from now hook the Scientologists because it seems like? Will you have people like me, Cartwright, who give ten million dollars twenty million dollars if some whales and Scientology?

You know you have gretta events, austrian and her husband, governance, austrian, o bigtime kneeling. I saw her Wikipedia page scientologist, yes and her husband to, but it's you they have a giant staff. There's a lot People were at last. We will work for free baby, those people signed billion year contracts and they get to fifteen dollars a week kidding, I'm a real union contracts are not being funding. I know you and I know, and they get paid fifteen dollars a week and they work for them. Moment. They get up to two midnight. We work astronomical hours. These are called sewer. Members are not talking here about average scientologists and explained. explain to me this year because was that establish when IRAN Herbert was evading taxes, so that a lot of shit, yes and he created the ship called the freeways and what ever ship that they then I called a free ones and it is called a free one cell, but that's where they deliver the highest level of of Scientology there.

He ate some when you get out here, you gotta dig it out everyone's, but before that I don't know the name of his boats, but I think it's called the APOLLO. There was a part of it. one clear that we are less when who was it that one of the writers are one of the though, Haggis ass. Yet when he received, like the highest of all that wasn't even the highest level in wasn't. I was eighty three ruin yeah. and what I read it. I literally you know you have to go into a secure room, targets through that. I was everything all you have to get invited here to get an invitation as he had been Scientology for years. Its bearing on money around a money can buy my most cited by the way, most scientologist. Don't even get to this most most don't write casually wealthy to get to know and have to be wealthy but a lot of times that they do, that, the new scam is, you got to go, eat you get to a level nine to go eat. We messed that up. You have to go back down at your expense the redo, that party were talking, motherless, Musha, yeah, yeah, so

and there I write some new say and now David savagery rights things as he found it evolved somewhere like all. We all believe it waving honest road. We all believe because we want to believe it so talk me through. So you go through this report. We are a little. Did you get to o t five year, close yet echoes I got to us when it went so you to get to this advanced level. This is called advance levels run. You are put through the ringer they go through every folder you now from the moment you walk into a true Scientology folders on you, everything you there said, is written down at an end, videotaped, okay, so they they think you're folders and they they call it. They call it they go through it. Ok and they go through Every transgression. Are you still humping your billow? Are you still You know a nasty asshole to your mother,

I think they go through every thing. Are you still connected to this person who said something bad about Scientology twenty years ago, so they make sure that you are eligible to get the advance data and where they bring, you can have your room. Where is about it? It's on, one hundred way in LOS Angeles and fountain So how nervously economic, oh my god I can I use have. Finally, all this shit I've put up with all my life is falling into be answered. All my questions of life can be answered in a moment, You realize this is the moment. Gonna get the sacred document, so my mother, yet so because I'm celebrity they let my mother. She was also higher level than me right. imagine I mean this double lake, so you go through one door security, and then you gotta get lanyard you like it. You gotta get like clearance, you gotta, go, take a picture. You ve got a sign

documents is safe. I ever reveal this. It's gonna be a hundred thousand dollars an hour. You don't ever get to read any legal document that Scientology gives. You see just sign things No, you just say sign here. Sign years like today, would you, dear sir, no legged, remarried, use rhino or I signed today? I left he shook her head You don't need to shine. Okay, so you know comedy you don't deny Jos, I'm awake, you denying that's how you step up common knowledge got it. You deny. Oh all, right can get them. Ok, there's we're doing. Ok, I'm thirty seconds yoga room, secure room! You gotta lanyard

you photo beside the Diane while they give you a folder. You have to get a brief case that only you know the code to a brief, so he walked to the window to the ale window and you hand me reef case. They scan your brief case and they put the materials in every face in their closer. They turn it back to you and you lock, then you attach the reef peace, your body and that, following the handkerchief knowledge with a little clip, it has to be has to be physically connected to right. So you will pay You have religious commonwealth right, so you re case go to go down the hall and users, and you're going to get event let into one door and then you're going to know the door. I need to go into the course room. That's what's called so you going to the three doors or two doors whatever it was. They sit down. You open up your case and you read the material for the first time. The answers, so my mother sitting there in front of me, cuz she's, so excited understand that, like

what you want for your kids, like you're, like they're, getting up the bridge and they're getting the answers to lie. So when they come back next lifetime, they're, not gonna, forget everything, they're not gonna, be as fucked up as they were when they were in. I mean like its is really a proud moment. You know, so. My mom sitting crossing me live so excited and I'm reading this, that my body, is made up of other beings, my body, my whole body, my thoughts in everything or mixed in with these other beings that make up compose my body. Ok, are you following me? Loose which are understanding of your body, is made up of other being site every every everything everything my thumb is always are other beings, you're hurting the nails, khazar acrylic Ochre Europe skins other beings, or I would rather be everything everything like thousands now just here to that decision,

Some is is a person is, is being trapped into this. Why so I read this and the supervisor. Kosovo's do you understand? I want you to draw out, I want you draw up, so the supervisor access to this information he standing there to make sure I'd psychoactive, Joe I'm on the wrong person. Ok, I go to this. two beings on me like that, and I give it they went down and he goes start again. I want you to read it again then I want you to draw another one. So ok so did all this. You know it literally, did those Joe. I need circles on every part of my body so for people's hearts. Whistler cylindrical has drawn a stick figure and she's drawn little circles of the stick figure right now. These beings were like from seventy five trillion meet years ago. They were put in Vulcan those in blown off packaged and overlord into a lower anyway. I freaked out this point out

I look at my mother who said it now. The supervisor standing over me psycho want sounds like it. So my eyes and she has already eight right. I love you. Majority Agar Europe's top of the food chain, yeah Natalie, if I would have put photographer chain when it comes to the counselling side, my mother was top with food chain when it came to administering Scientology, which is very rare shoes. What's considered a high trained the term, but she had read the stuff. Of course she read it. She was just there to see my excitement. I say: ok, she's there is a spectator to see her daughter receive the answers right, but our superscribed coil rotten right right, surprised. When someone goes. But don't you understand? I understand it. I just I don't. I don't loved like on that happy. I got just gonna. I am not happy with this is what was

and he was well- you don't need to believe it. You just need to do it So that's the answer. That's given to you, you don't need to believe it. You just need to do it. So then you have to go and what is this? You have to go and do it on yourself. Talk to these beings on meter by yourself so on the meter meaning hold the? Can, I say, cans, folks, what they look like it looks like soup cans. Will you be drained all the soup from a suit can and asked attached to it and connect to some naked Google. Let Scientology immediately meter yulka, so so yeah. to hold the meter and discuss this. Now you think it you think there's a thank you so now you gotta, go get you material. So after you ve been checked out on this and they get that you get what it is. Then you go back to the window and they give you your. actual what you're supposed to do with this. Formation, subtle, say like it'll, be a piece of paper and all say: ask this question

and then look at the meter and what the answer, as whatever answer comes to your mind, write it down ha decency. Yeah. So all you're doing is awakening these things. To talk to them really Hoover yeah right answer. Let them go your basically saying let go be free, governesses, o t three correct and by the way, when I was a scientologist, when I heard that this was a story I didn't know I would go to the internet and go o t three story, but I didn't know what if it was true. So I can verify it right deserves thanks for most people who go, that's bullshit because they haven't they. Don't, I would, though, looking at on the internet right does not intervene firewood. So if I went to my mother, let's say before I got to this level, they you're you're, told to lie, People can tell people what the answers Arcos they're gonna get Pneumonia, get pneumonia surely will die.

ok! So a lot of times on, I lied to the present and they confronted me on one July I was like I had two to save your life. I mean I can give a clear answer. So what if you were about to go to a t three and then you went on line in you investigated what is only three and then you read a bunch of stuff, but these little beings you bought it and then Your mom you're moment after lie to lightly, as she did ass. She did so after you got through there, What made you do for far as always the carrot of like just wait. It highlights here's what they do. They set up that year, the auditor now so you're you're auditing, these things in your body, you're now the boss, so they go. They tell you get your hat on like here. It's your job, you don't need to believe anything you just need to them, so you need to do your job as an auditor. That's their call auditors, people who are the ones who take you into session and Scientology Brain, so you feel like you're in a leadership role. So you're doing these things.

Favour you knowing you like, or maybe it's true I don't know I mean I do sometimes hear voices leg in all. You have a moment with resolving you're like a might be really kind of crazy, you're like. Maybe this is an answer. It's it's sick because it's free to cite a view that warrants answers about life. You know and then you're like now. This is some crazy shit man that it wasn't even the people now you know it it it listen! You leave what you want and believe that the time rights, as does it feel to you moment like? Maybe you just keep going illegal. That is far worse than all make sense. Yes, I'm confused now, but if I contemplate this, I really think it over. Eventually I'm gonna receive enough information or answers are gonna, be like right. I was fool arise there right, sir, for example, one time I had talked to a friend about it. I said you know. I have five awesome Zenos shit. She,

really pulled me into celebrity centre so fast into a secured room, and she handed me my ashes. Don't you ever say that word outside is secured room. I'm writing a knowledge report on you. She ceremony you never say that word out loud in a room. It's not secured ok and never again so she wrote a report on knowledge report. She Ranald report on me. I got send to what's called ethics, which is like the Justice Department of Celebrity of of Scientology and they said they brought me into another secured room because they have to get somebody who knows this information and isn't never ever say that we say this now, confirm it. Never deny it never give that information out ever that just never discuss it just say I never heard of it. You some crazy, and that's what we all say, you so crazy or in a proper

we Don T get it? You know like you'll, get it if its properly done those people do it properly? That's why they did understand decency. There's a there's alarm. You cross ran like this is my life the societal do. This is what I believe, and then you cross the line. Oh my god. This is bullshit late, that that's a that line, that bridge that you cross in your mind, is a very distinct transition. So well, What was that like like what is that transition like like what is I like well. Now you did or how long did you to leave July? before years. That's it that's not long. No, That's really recent Joe, and I'm still, you know finding myself I'm still like? Who am? I would, I believe, run you know, my some bullshit. Am I a person

like you say it was a fake as I don't want that I don't want to be the person who loves to fight just a flight. I want to be on the path of of being righteous. I wanna be who I was The M an end and who I really am is sometimes an asshole Joe. Sometimes I I have a horrible temper I like of something I feel like I'm an old school mafia person stuck in a female but, like I have really extreme thoughts about life and unfair, ending who I am finding out. What I really believe was allowed her. I don't know I go, do I believe, and I don't have leaving that I was what everybody knows. Pot is evil. Do I believe that everybody who cheat is evil and horrible and just lost Do I believe that other religions or laws do I believe that everybody needs think I really am searching

I have to re, evaluate your entire average to everything and it was a big part of my day. Remember it gave me a mission, gave me purpose and that's what I hear a lot from scientologists is excellent holidays, not us hearing their pain of losing their families and everything I've ever known, but not having this wrong when you wake up warning like you know, we have purpose Joe if kids, you, oh god, for them, but this it was so much bigger. It was for you, children's children, that's a giant factor. people I have some friends that were deeply involved in the Mormon Religion and they're, not anymore, and it was really weird we went to dinner wants, and they were saying: do you believe in a higher power and I said it's entirely possible. I said I don't, but I don't believe in anything that I don't have any evidence of its entirely possible liked. I think the universe is an incredible mystery. I think the life itself in

consciousness is an amazing mystery, and I don't think we have all the answers. I don't think I'll think an ant. We stand a cell phone and I think I can understand the universe. My brain is not involved enough and they are. Our understanding has reached a point where we can really accurately described what this is all about and ice in it, but there your answer was like how do you get up in the morning? May I go. I love life like a like drinking nice wine like having dinner beaten with my friends Joan and everybody has well, they probably should find some things they enjoy about the sly. Exactly, but that's it is finding those things for scientologists. It's like a lot of my first like who didn't really know what s going to church go you dont kind of childish at times. You know, because I never went to dinner in my third easy for them. Had wine, like I wouldn't go to dinner, have why check your reports written on me. You know we were to go to church and next day

I'm going out to dinner after the king, queens and enjoying my friends of, and if I did Joe out, in their laws. They need Scientology. You know I was never We there. I was never really part of unlike living for the first time, but I do have faith that so one thing that I have found it and not an a weird way, not Anna on one another call way, not an just. I have faith for the first time. I don't believe in any one thing I believe in a higher power. were, and I believe that faith having faith is about these people that I was friends with them. So friends did this. This conversation got got a little weird that night, but it got way we're two years later like us. They want to believe it when he needed if the more mature, ok, I get we're well because then they got they became on and the conversation I had with the wife was very strange. Issues like I grew up in Indoctrinate

in this fundamentalist religions may, and she was now that I'm not in it. She was. I dont know what to believe, and I realise that my mindset is kind of fucked up, because I am indoctrinated. Like my brow, in developed as a young age, believing nonsense and never questioning it. She goes, I feel very vulnerable, whereas habitable she was feeling of the right called came along. They could suit me up and she was laughin about it, but she wasn't Lawyers thing on the opposite. Now, that's why like, when I I don't want you to tell me nothing. I don't want to be told a damn thing. I've been told my whole life what to do and how to thanks are gone. The opposite. Just don't tell me what I need to do and it is at the pension swing is far you re like me, even gonna, do you see when they go? You need to stand our need to stand anywhere. I dont need, but guess what I don't need my license renewed and then and then on that person our destroy my whole day and get a ticket, because I want to be told what to do does hawk to me, like I'm

yeah, your child and don't talk to me. So I can let you know I'm very much that way. You know you should have short, and now I don't give a shit. What you think about my nails I want and that their slightly longer than average because is purposeful and when I don't want them anymore, I won't help them about that justice. Small scale. I dont want people telling me what I should think any more and how let me find my way. I'm gonna make mistakes I, but I want to in my own way she retorted reestablishing your personal sovereign. I dont know what it is genuinely like, assuming a piss, some more people off, I'm sure I'm gonna make a lot of mistakes and will not be the perfect some people think I am or want me to be, but I gotta make mistakes. You got that Are you learn? I would always unable to learn brought. It was like to do it this way. The way we do it. We don't do this, we don't do that. I mean I was always a little bit of a rebel in, but I thought everybody was being held this higher standards they weren't

I was finding out other celebrities was smoking pot and then going into the sauna. Yet exactly like doing their purification run down a hundred times was that's when that's in the beginning, steps scientologists do what's call the purification rundown supposed to deter. sure body of all, you know etons nothing you're, not there. Yet now don't get too bad. I dont get asylum baby internet there when you get there, what use you have to spend three hundred eight thousand dollars and about forty years of your life? Forty yeah, that's a lot of work or work. Now you you learn. Basically purification Indonesia's use was a sweat out all of the toxins, lodged in your fatty tissue now the problem that is you taking large amount. Guy A and they claim your you're you're running out like

suntan from from when you were a kid and from other lifetimes and its rise and yes, flash my sins yeah, you feel a new school reality hot and yes, you have to sit in a sort of a five hours while to fight our thing, but at what? finding out, I was acquitted. Why was a prisoner was fogey pop Granada Smoke pot right, like I haven't, been smoking pot this whole time. You know where people do anymore that other people were smoking, pot, doing other drugs and then going and so on. I was away I do know that was an option for me like I was living by this I mean. So that's what I'm going through now. That's absolutely part, but they want to elevate only because they want to be calmer or might not only has to look at it. I dont want while it could. You know from the fact, and I am sure that no you directly not judge you all four million now you're alive, if you're alive,

experienced the benefits of a consciousness, enhancing substance, whether its mushrooms are part or any gel upgraded, creating some crazy I don't. I ll a gorilla, get a friggin out. I've been in a cultural life, sorry folks! how does it nobody in psychology The people get attack mean you are listening to this. Well, even the people. I gotta you. me that I'd like to get away for them, I feel bad for them. I feel bad for anybody wants attack anybody for their beliefs or for talking about stuff and guess what if you're religion or belief system is so easily destroyed, that someone can have a disparaging opinion about it and that that way through I to the point where you want to attack that person you do something wrong. Let your leading your life wrong, lay your on the wrong path, there's a lot people, have different opinions about a lot of different things. As one of the more interesting things about life, like you, don't like cocoanut water, a fuckin, love covenant, watering, we're aloud.

you know you, like alone. I think it smells like shit were allowed to have different opinion. Yes is one of the beautiful things about life like different kinds and music, different styles of art, different kinds of houses and different landscapes. It's it's one of the things that makes people interesting, so the problem with Any kind of ideology, the part of the problem with what would this represents or any other kind of called or any. Kind of really rigid structure? Is that its human, things are very susceptible to those kind of routines. Very susceptible to influence were very susceptible to other people, carving out these

determine patterns of behaviour that you just quickly slot into because it keeps you from having a form your own opinions, and that's that that's everything that's wrong, and you truly believe that you believe it yeah sure and you didn't do. It makes very easy for people to dislodge themselves into these these patterns and adopt those opinions as their own set of trying to formulate their oak as its very complicated show to formulate your own opinions may and they have to be flexible because new information comes up, and then you have to gonna change them and adjust them and then recognise that perhaps, like you like your recognising right now that, like love like colored, like lived, a lie may for a long period, and I really mean it doesn't describe you as human doesn't mean, and it's very brave of you to discuss that openly because it gives people that are less. to this day,

the same sort of understanding of these thoughts that are in their own mind, whether because of whatever religion, filling the black and assisting about this, how the fuck did they have tacit tax exempt status? Well, because they there for personal, the IRS. They answered the IRA's questions to to get that status one one of them is you have any other filiation with any other god of which they said. No, they deal with the very. They believe that they are fearful beings in there. They deal with the Spirit right, and so they answer the questions that needed to be answered for the IRS, but is an amazing that any religion gets caught. Tax exempt status all of them are ridiculous. Well, I I dont want to me comment about other. Like bonafide religions began I dont like some of our bona. Well, yes, I do

amateur. Why honey? Honestly Joe you have to really make the distinction between an organisation that takes your mind hostage. The minute you walk in and that you are, you are required to be their turn. You know two and a half hours a day that your eternity is it day that yet the planet, every man, woman and child on this planet, their lives are at stake with what we do in scientific would you don't using the pen world now were hard, no fundamental as Christians unless you said fundamentalists? Okay, so I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about are what what I witnessed as a child with my grandmother, my grandma down the street from her chair We would walk in on the way to get you now sausage in me balls and thing she needed to make her sauce and she going

light a candle for her friend Connie or should go on and light a candle because I lost my ring or she paraded the sphincter that sing and when I was scared at night she would say, pray to this person pray to going to your cross and God's going to protect you when you sleep, and he angel and here's your little cross in it. She would give me let all in the same somewhere on the necklaces and none she'd say, and I believed for that night that that Saint was protecting me or the God was bacteria and those whom you can offer a gaming comfort, and so that's right on my door. I want you to believe anything, although I did bathtub baptize her as a Catholic, I said I want you to really find your way with some kind of spirituality, but I'm gonna baptized Catholic, because I feel you need some kind of foundation for I don't want you to be forced to believe in anything. But I want you to believe in something or even a full for anything else,

I didn't have structure as a child. I had Scientology and by structural. Well, I mean of real, a real religious base, their religious beliefs. Cracked and never the difference. China called the religion, the beautiful quote. What is called spool should create by one person that person knows it's bullshit in a religion that guy's dead. Where did you go over there? Signor Joey. Now it's just something. I really like it true sigh, I, but so that was my experience of religion. No, I know people feel very differently about religion being forced down your throat, but I would have a kind of love. You know, knowing what my family every Sunday to charge mine. I think it is created where I saw my father doing that with his other daughters. I was a little jealous that we had that wrong, that we get Easter dresses and it wasn't a big thing

my you have that right. Have you comfort room? Yes, he answered as also the the I'm trying to look doesn't cost quarter million that you know to to get up to this level that I explained to you and by the end of it, if you have made millions that you're gonna give those millions away, it is requirement that such a requirement in another- religions that you are not allowed to talk to certain people that now I understand there are other calls that do that, and I and I do call those things com, because I don't think any organization. Any church should tell people who they can and cannot talk to what they can and cannot read what they shouldn't shouldn't. Do. The person should make their own decisions based on the information that is given to them or information that they find on their own rights,

very different pay before you go proposition, there are repercussions to leaving. Nobody knows that I went in and out of a catholic church the other day and lit a candle. there was calling me saying: where are you why you not here, who you talking to me to come in order to start working on your family, destroying your family What who don't ask me, but either in others there is different? Tiles of behaviour patterns that exists in all sorts of religions, like Buddhism, is radically different than Islam in our there's differ requirements, if they ask, of the people, and that is based on the environment than these religions were established in the based on how long these things have gone on for whether or not the people that are a part of, religion of gone through the enlightenment, like what what different factors played a part in what standards they uphold today and make people but the Mai issue is always with subscribing to.

determine patterns of behaviour and ideologies where they indoctrinate you on specific ways to think and act. What that's it as for the water, religions, are minutes, it's a real issue with with human beings. Well, my grand Mother, of course, was was yes exactly varies to think a certain way about people or lifestyle. And but she had the choice to be friends with somebody who maybe wasn't those rights, church, we don't have to now. I it's pretty obvious that some, especially in particular, the way you're describing Scientology it's far more suppresses than most and far more rigid in its behaviour patterns. They for one of these behaviour patterns and it's it's incredibly difficult to break behaviour patterns, especially when you believe firmly and her heart that this is the right way to be yet he had been just fight clearing. The plan is just amazing that they have to pay taxes at last.

Coming in their doctrine. If you look at it, that's the thing: the work where there had been judges that should have looked into the doctrine. They said it so that we can. We cannot actually look into the dark, but they need to understand that their you need to look into the doctrine where its abusive and her people. If you're doctrine calls for you to hurt people her children are, the government does need to step in me right here. I agree well adjusted for absolutely this. The accusations about the sea organ about people make it fifteen bucks weak and about these people that are essentially working as Lenin centrally indentured servants is not they sign up for it. so long as you sign up for a sign that billion dollar contract, you not subject any minimum wage laws or an ailing along those lines at length. We shall not really that smart enough to speak on these things, because people think that my that my agenda is to take away their tax exempt status. Ah, I would lie

for that to happen. But that's not the reason for the show the views, wandered sheriff herself and be honest about now. I want your answers and how but they're not my experience free. These are other people's experiences wires to what, but, because I know it's true, because I experienced it, I'm close signing and I'm saying you know if you're gonna bully somebody bully may believe me, but I'm gonna. Let these people tell their stores because a telling the truth right yeah and if we weren't only truth, you would suit us oh cut the shit already with us. What is interesting is that the disclaimer, at the end of your episode, the inner episode it's in a hundred times, yeah bullshit. They gotta do it. I only want it's more to do a lot to me. It's annoying everyday. I see it. I wrote my eyes, I mean everyone I understand it, but you know it's it's annoying because what we are saying is true again, this elected you screw

Ok that are going to shy away from many laws if they could assume as they would have, but they know what we're saying is true. These are the policies of the church. Here's danger they, but they should do, is go yeah. We subscribe to these policies, you don't fuckin like it. Dont be part of our church, but don't say world lying, runs right there on the internet. You assholes, I had the books of my Britain garage. What are you talking about? not only at all. I thought you are no, no nomes thinking now you're your ear, your current state right like doing a show and having on these people, I feel like up in the lot of em for sure cause you're around you're you're, getting their message out there and again a very heartbreaking message and see these people and their non contact with children and contact with love ones. Yeah. It's an imagine my daughter doing those very those going my mother just wants to make a buck my disgusted by my mother, and discuss that she then that she's, my mother, I would be.

scratch state, not criminal, Mama, I'm one of the lucky ones. You know like these things didn't happen to me, Joe. I wasn't more. I was molested. I wasn't heard I wasn't physically. heard. I wasn't my kids didn't disconnect from My mother didn't disconnect from me. I have my mother during the holidays. I have my sisters. I have my husband now, Your life must have revealed. Of around the church in a very big way socially in what is like now, like all those people, the written you off right here. It said I'm scared for them, because our relationship was was obviously dependent on our relationship. to the church of you can understand that right being brainwash, and no because they knew me right so for my church to say you Lee as an enemy of our charge, my friend, should he said bullshit, but aren't you kind of an enemy of them? Now, though,

I don't know why I would be they know, were telling the truth right, but the truth is very damn the June to their. Why is it Amazon? Because our consideration all issues of the church right, you're, right, Non Muslim, thousands Nan behind it say you don't like it dont be part of it, but the camera do the line, because their doing so fucked up things. Eighty days there, the epitome of morality, there, the vote, the elite of mankind, their saving the planet. So you, when you go on their website and see that they say the largest grew religion. They are the only ones that what the solution to life to man's ills, I'm not making ok? So when you make those kinds of claims you didn't than stand behind it right. That's right! I also leaves and other things we don't we you're all lost. We are extreme.

Must we are bigots we'd. This is what these are. Our police, then dont join us. We obviously have enough money. Do you communicate with any of the people are not allowed to talk to me, disorganizing celebrities, who talks to me on twitter and social media not directly at me, and they run from me. They run from the parties and their luck. that they run because, honestly, I don't mine, I don't mind you talking shared just when you see me back it out. That's all just landed on wheels really can sign on one may You want to know why on an aim anymore, name, Jonas, because Given that much credit that I want to give up You can just name and is any celebrity that you know like that does Poligized we would. We have. We have Kirsty Alley. We have time Kirsty always to him. Show me a big it. yeah. They drag my big it because you know I signed, algae way, but I wasn't a big one, Didn't like anybody else. What Scientologists rank cassettes would say I was very much a bigger and she

I wasn't coercion, irrelevance, austrian she's developments, austrian gay Masters and Laura pre Pine he's on the seventy show. Oh yeah, she's in rank, Laura Pre Pine, Juliet Louis Her brother life feels, as he says, I like the Lewis and set a wedding, her Julia Louis, his brother, who I grew up with light, feel ok in the scientific community, He was filming a wedding. He was a sinner, like you know, doing the video he literally ran from me and my husband at a wedding and he was videos the wedding. So wherever shot wise and my husband even said to him a lot like he said why he was hale, I feel, and he ran and the other and I was grateful singing right. He, the other browsers, ie. Ok, is he and his luggage scientologists

Who else? Well, I'm ignorant as to how many celebrities scientologists I dont know back while China. That is a weird one, Well because he's a musician yeah nowadays, like a sober, creative, you would think that person like super open minded. He comes out with a sound like I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me that he can answer to some? Are you sure, I'm a are you sure, that's him so wide out your home tat. I loved desert its back when I hear Ye Fisher hunters You know this one saying yes I'll leave him is he seemed baggage? I got back that, like you, would be a nine inch nailed. Does Jamie viewers, zis or billing we're gonna so you mean in who else

is in deep Jenna, often right, general, indeed, gate rambler show the big show, or I don't know we all go up and down in our careers. You know that's too, as like. I love how the church tries to measure like she's, a an actress path to tie hours ago, utterances out yeah yeah, I saw my website. Has anyone pass or time if you still alive and acting rain and the atmosphere Eddie Whites not pass through what I want, but, as I was famous enough when I was in rent, Now, your past, your time. That's why they're saying about you? and you can't measure PETE like we. We another known career, that's right or left, but I I don't. I don't need to work. I want to work. I love what I do. I love acting. I love making people laugh, but I don't need to do it right only need one solid hit in your life. You know that this is my passion. This is something that I always wanted to do as far as helping

people smiles and Scientology, I loved helping people. It was everything to me if somebody needed help. I was there. I just love it. That's. Why now like to talk, should about these few by no in their hearts. They really believe they're, hoping even and hacking maize. How were so? I dont really wanna call these people out like this specific problem, but at least have the balls to back it up. When you see me, so you believe, they're just have misguided intentions. Preside engines are correct, as you did at one point. I do and I are unique required call anybody a liar, a big it I would tell the Zenith story is a lie. It's crazy! sound crazy. What is the it or this is the story. This is how they got to be attached to our bodies. The Z new story is they got

package. What is even, though they are found to avoid, or an auditor got dropped in Slovakia and National they got yes, they got package like there was a planet that existed like this. Look like this and then the the The Lord Z knew the thought that there was to many people on the planet, so a package of these people, is that aid stuff. Now I think so too, three step or three But what happens like it? Ok did your mom's out now. Yes, I held out. So you are told from the very beginning and Scientology that you have a reactive mind: and so in Dianetics. You are running out these bad experiences that you ve had maybe this lifetime, maybe last lifetime. Maybe lifetimes ago so you're you're told that you have a reactive mine and we're gonna. Take it away, we're gonna, find it and we're gonna. Take it Why? So you don't even know that you haven't into your told you have it right so who run all these, like things is incidents like you'll get a picture in your head I'm getting a fisher than I was like a french

medieval times whatever they like us away. You don't have to believe Did you say it to say what it is you and then I was burned at stake. I was away it showed. Obviously I wasn't Salem and I was work as I have a problem with fire. You know and you're making of these as you go and then you're like, I think, I'm making these out and then there's a policy that says the person's gonna say by one hundred that they're making at all but they're not making it up. These are real. Pictures of real pass lies right tat by the time you get two o t, you're told okay. So what wasn't true? All of that was a law you made that. But what is like? What aren't you So I'm not a I'm, not a body, I'm not a arm, I'm not this. I'm not. I was never Louie that I was never that guy that I said I was never which a sailor. I was never so that's what o t say. You recently told what what wasn't true? What are you like? What are you really

I'm just me is the answer: how did your mom get out? My mom got off that ship and she said I never going back wisely. Another thing she those bullshit, but she thought it was ok when you were going through your o t three thing in their explaining covered with bugs ready things: you're, not parks. Don't you understand, you really need to go back. Maybe do we need to do it out of him laughing a little beings like that? I had a body we're, so your mom got all the way past that yes and something she does at one point time: it's bullshit. It wasn't from me what what that should decide. I wouldn't tell me that if she would have told me that that would stop me from going there pulled me in a measure. When did you think it was bullshit you're not here on sugar The talk she can't tell me she thinks it's bullshit, I'm still coming up behind her right. If I were a sheet,

and pulled me in and said earlier. This is bullshit like I. I don't want you to continue than I would have turned her and I What have you don't think it would have if they would have gone to work on me and your mother, guinea disconnect from your mother? She didn't want me to disconnect from her that's Could I know these are family, so you learn to be quiet, so complicated. It is complicated and it takes years and years of this you notice. Doesn't happen overnight, as your mom got two o t, so she had to go to the ship, and Is it the wacky as to the working when she got their interests like this? Is nonsense? I'm done, which is happy to be done. Finally, is always actual free. Why, here So what happens when she left go hey weighing on now? She, after you're done they let your ship right, you complete it, you get assert and You have to go everyday anymore now and now, but little raided more o t levels now, so she would have been called back in

they created more yet some day like look, we just went to the vault, maybe uncovered squirrel right. We found some writings avail unheard before he passed and threatening. not even a lie, and you believe Giotto laugh at me because I feel bad for like I feel bad for you all I did to looking back. I go. You know We're all went into it like with a good heart like we believed what they were saying was like what You mean just founded element. Hovered said it was. The end of the bridge was o t eight and we spent a whole life doing this, like you want there to be a definite end, Do you know, live your life a little bit sick, credible science fiction writer to create something like this that so poorly, given no poorly thought out, we only knew of his science fiction. Writing like from him telling us what it wasn't like. We were faint, no new element hovered, as if science fiction minded

been some knowledge of another was battlefield. Earth would have been. I of course they have a whole building on their whole, literary right building on Hollywood, boulevard, colds, Arthur Services and it's all dedicated to overrun, hovers publishing, and you walk anything. This man is a serious right like this is somebody was really accomplishing for people. No, no. He wrote more books and wrote what more stuff then more fiction than any human being that's ever lived ever is a true. Yes, he wrote morphine. Action than anyone who has ever walked on the face of say something that has made our abilities, Meda, more shit. Anyone who ever lived so he wrote down more shit that never really happened than anyone who ever lived. But the Scientology stuff, you tell the truth about, might like you don't know,

that you don't think that anything. You don't make that distinction, you don't you you're reading Dianetics as a self help will run like you were searching for something bigger. You know. Most people are looking for that and so you, when you read the book and you like, oh, I could cure me of psychosomatic ills and right? Well, he's aids that was big part going clear. Is that it he had it, it seems pretty obvious, and he was going through. Some issues himself and he's trying to self die Also, I sort of self of blindness he said so and you believe it you want to believe it Joe you wanna believe like. I concur myself of things I and the cause of my own well being and by my own thoughts- and I don't want this reactive mind, and you know that makes sense right when people say have you ever done anything,

that is uncontrollable to you. That you know is damaging to you and you're like yet every day I don't want to make bad decisions. Well, that's cuz! It's very reactive, mind! It's it's beneath you! It is! It's me it's in your subconscious, deep in your subconscious, I'm going to help you find those areas and we're going to help you to stop making bad decisions, and who doesn't want that ran and you believe it. You know you go from. Maybe you know punching some body in the face. You know for looking at you a certain way to being able to control your emotions, like all he moves working, all carriers do drugs. Now I don't you don't curses case, it's safer life. So if she believes that a sea for life save your life, I'm not taking that arise from her, I'm not taking away your gains in your winds, but don't take away the fact that uniform tone

truth and don't come from me when you know telling the truth is that we do have a fucking problem. Well, it seems like the other military clan. You know and you are opposing the clan. They know it's true right. I have it. Listen if you didn't knows true, but I, like oh she's, unaware. She knows it's true so to come. For me is kind of crazy. It has gone crazy. what is the predominant criticism amongst these people, the Nazi cancer you're lying right? Yes, they SAM, why we were all line. Baby notches may were all lie. Any version has spoken out against the churches. Lying we're. Bigots we are and validating their religious beliefs. You're, telling them that something didn't help. Them were not known. Saying that nobody's you feel you ve been helped. You ve been held However, you know the truth, and now you have a responsibility, but what they think is I don't wanna have a problem. Scientology helps me and said:

That's all I care about you, don't give a shit about abuses, you don't care, the children were being molested and these things were being hidden. you don't care that word. Would we be more ass to honey? If you even just Google, that what I just said, Scientology and child was it, you will get come upon website after website of of people saying I was molested while I was in the church and the church should nothing about it, I'm not alleging it. This is what I read. This is where I ve seen run and I ve been, is hadn't heard that way you can you you can you can hear it you're gonna hear, because people are becoming more more vocal about what happened to them. and so, if I seem overly passionate about this subject is because I have heard these stories over and over again behind the scenes. I have heard stories of people being abused, children being abused mentally physically sexually and I'm only may with a show you any kind

do anything other than just. Let me tell these stories arm. So virtually men might render an other avenues that we will really can't talk about. I'm trying to do something right by these people and so Last thing that I wanna be bothered with is bull shit from us. Liberty. Who knows that were told the truth about what we have already spoken about, but to be interested enough to make find out what I m talking about now ripe elephants austrian one is really odd cause she's a news person cease wasn, a television news. Journalists. Try me, I don't know yes, but why? What? Why is that?

cause. I'm just assume like you'd, want your news from someone who doesn't believe a bunch wacky shit, well that in her defence I mean who, who knows what any person Belize true. However, the distinction that I'm glad you did make is when you are hearing about abuses when you work hearing about things that are happening that are hurting people. You then do need to say on the lined with this organization, and so I do need to find out How is she will, I think most of her life has allowed people there get it as a child? have you received a mouse or any sort of contact from people who you're show benefited and it was the catalyst for them leaving alive no, for leaving now have we ve received tons of emails of people who said and glad you told me that I'm glad I watch your show, I'm well informed. Now I will never step into

Church Scientology, believing because you're not getting scientologist watching the show run. You know, I don't know they have shows right. You know how you ve learned have to be on the front, while average scientologists do but they're not watching, shows like this. They have to pay for that literally Joe, like it. If the go in the next day and pay to have your own interrogation and punishment handed to you for watching you, shoulda hours were going clear after while you just gotta want the punishment, especially if you believe that I am the devil. If you believe that I am a liar that I have crossed over to another side that are not to be listened to, why would you support somebody was talking about you and your faith or your family and people you love? Would you go to your room?

listen to them, maybe, but the average person doesn't want to seek out things that they think are damaging work know what kind of blow back if we receive from those like the kind of woe back as Garlic Paul Hugger, Sir, its rider and these people outlaw had to watch his family go on his heat website at the church, Scientology create and watches family talk about him disclose their stolen because their stolen disconnect from him as every single person who's been on the show they ve been followed. They ve been harassed, they ve been a p eyes following down there

showing up their jobs. Their getting male loves that, like people who are ill people who don't even have never stepped into a church it getting male connected to me mail at their house during like they have never stepped into a church of Saint. How girl does my eyebrows she's? Like I don't know, I said, give you never such institutions it. She said, never forgave mail for the first time for the courtesy, intelligent, it's crazy, but that that that's just a little anecdote, but that but. to have your family make videos of you do not talk to you to refuse to see you you're their own grandchildren nad. That's just something. I can't

deal with, but also now what word when I'm dealing with now is hearing stories of these people have been silence for years. The pain that they ve they ve had to deal with and sustain through these years affected their normal in any way as a miracle and so I hope to do something with diamond. I hope to to make some change what one of the positive aspects of science, algae and how do you think it benefited you and do you think it's possible to take some of them positive aspects and either reform that organization or form another organisation and doesn't try to control people's thinking but may be positive, maybe tries to encourage the positive benefits being a pirate. Couldn't Lincoln promote anything good about it because it knows an all in proposition right, but isn't it

but is there some guy read books by the books if you wanna buy books, but I mean I don't think it is going to therapists now when I bring up concepts issues like oh yeah, that was cycle. As you may like one you not unlike what a lot of it is from that existed, You know so yeah, but I believe in in putting things at work for you. I don't think it's one thing. The one thing that my third procedure me is it as such is one thing you know you get something from here: you did something from their its knowledge is Scientology is not about now. Ledges it's about us in this very important things. Very new. Do you you never went through me. Now is rather like my first thing I said to her. I just want you know that I think I know more than you. I was caught us towards a scientologists that you are. You have wasted your life going to college. I could do for a person and

five minutes on this, a meter. What you're gonna do what me in an we know in five years, like guy our firm prefer. I understand I understand. I understand that you feel that way, and she said you know that dumb spiritual, any religion should have nothing to do with. The ego would like. It does stayed with me for a second cousin. I have a huge ego. She's right, she's, right, scientologist believe that they have the answers and when you believe that you have shot yourself off to the fruits of armed observation to preventing other people do opening your heart of two things. I mean it's: it shut you off completely she's George. This is a part of you. You re exporting or boy, maybe yeah, the first non cologne saying is like other so judging about it, but I'm willing to may be changed. My line

Nine cologne! Think I'm sure you ve seen the video of Tom Cruise, though its words get a mission impossible sort of soundtrack play in the background is talking about a car accident. Have you stumbled. on a car accident and let you know that and then later one of us take care of whose Europe's high intolerance, energy and want to can handle and any believe that, when you're saying to you you're, not only you are taught that we are the only ones doing anything that you are the only ones. That's why I was so shock. Three when no one in my church was once stand with me. So we are not those people who stand up right. We are the people who look the other way because you're looking the other way because time because of data scavenge, because you have no balls really are we- those people Because the truth and better is when there was an x and enjoy, did stop. I am that personas since they are one of the positive benefits Scientology here, while you feel that you're responsible for everything a new felt like you, want to help as well, we value,

How can you want to help that some positive thing right and also intelligence do think they're right, so this to be some I want to say that I found about. Alas, I know that's a huge ego yell if you think you're the only one doing anything by the way there are other people who stopped, but I believe in what I believed that it was because I was assigned talent you're. Still I stopped right, but then I saw in the life of the window and those good people in the world. They have no interest, no I hear your motive no vested interest in helping somebody right there. like our more shocked what but the show that's while again. In the last episode in tears, I was a mess because I was shocked by the goodness of people that I thought the world was so screwed because of Scientology. because I thought we were the only good people in the world. This say, and also so stupid and juvenile. It doesn't, though

was it makes sense and honestly from someone who lived there, higher life indoctrinate in that I'd ideology, and you ve only been out for four years: your shown a remarkable amount of self insight, in a remarkable amount of ability. to examine the flaws of your past thinking and current year, current because every day, like that's really most lovely but to abandon the foundation that you ve kind of established, your entire life on it's gotta, be insanely difficult due to your forties. After all these years of being involved in this crazy sort of organization. It's very its view. Admirable it's very hard? way easier for you to just keep stay and stands out. comfort zone do you know your nonsense, get up to eighteen. Fifty five, whatever the fuck, it is now you now Just keep paying the money and keep your friends.

Do you miss Eyre friends? There were in it no, I only miss the children of, like my God daughter and you know, because I see her. She was a manoeuvre and you can talk to while her mother can talk to me. She doesn't know me now I delivered her. You know where I live in the hospital and then I move we moved my friend close to me down the street says she could be in a certain school district and then be able to be my God daughter and I see her in the neighborhood and she can't talk to me so the girl. You know that my God, your doesn't know me. You wouldn't know to come to me because she's now, only you don't fives in a bank robber How are they hang on

How do they, how they stand, had amassed three billion dollars and asset three billion? Yes, and so it takes. It's gonna take a few good men and women to stand up with us and ends and get interested. You know, like I said, there's been a few public figures who to publicly come out you're. No one of them Conan is another one, and in your bill more like there's, some people would some balls that are willing to say this is bullshit and we should be doing something about it. The world at large is supportive of of me and the people who are contributing to the show amazingly supportive social media has been amazing to us in an as well. I need very brief: do show like that's the first time of its kind German, a series about it. Its examples. In their part, they pussy our disclaimers. But ok, I think you're probably how to do that united to defend them

so I think more more people are coming more and more people are being supportive, but we need more people in the public eye to say that's. This is enough, it is, and what is a bit like doing press for this and promoting a like what a band of the varied reactions from people even onto hurried, its I've been varied, has been very supportive and be untouched by it. Like me, I didn't know what I was gonna get I didn't know. If I was to get people, who were gonna. You know a walk, the line and a well, I don't know what the one problem I was would then, because I felt you know,

de I knew enough Dan was right it with enough. We ve talked to him now Dan Harris. You know from twenty six Harry, like isn't like cut eyes like we can't be impartial about things we shouldn't be impartial about like come on. There's things in the world. You need to stand up to write and I want people to feel that power, whether it's this cold or other calls or a political party or agenda like a few people, have the power do something I think that's becoming more and more evident, and I think people need to start standing up for what they believe in the candy something, and we get asked that all the time. What can I do? I Sequoia congressmen call them and say I want you to look into this. I want you to do something about this. If you're a lawyer who could do something, you should contact us if your somebody who has some knowledge of something that that could could help us prosecute, you need to come forward because a lot of the stories that we tall

statute of limitations on these abuses have already passed and it's their words against. You know a hundred others like what say we walked in right now to that base that I was telling you about. Most of them wouldn't leave. They don't know what's going on out here when they don't know that, what's there is being told is not happening. Hearing they don't run, so I would love to do that. I'd love to walk into those gate, the F B, I say hey. You who want to come with me, come with me now we're gonna, take care of you on a vast might render that many times in my city proudly won't go with you I'll stand there and say what each he wrote, you know you ve been beaten, I beat you, you read me he'd, review people saying well, yes, he's gonna be people yet a rough, some people up and he admits in the show. But not you. You didn't beat me boy

you have to smack anybody early in general, because I did on the shit. I've been into a few fights and cartoon clubs. You ve been fighting club, but you don't drink. Well, I did drink, Joe you did. You did bad things while you're in in the group I did. And you are up and out cracks and pay yeah, but that's got them from Brooklyn. I believe I blame Brooklyn boy in Brooklyn cancer strange, can claim anybody, but my thought my men attitude, but did they ever make you smack anybody anything? I know it's all about smacking it's about, but he had yet to be people David, Miss GAB edge, and this is what they have said and they said it Oath Davis cabbage under his direction? Has me and they have admitted to that, but where they admitted it they'd be twenty people who said there lie

Now this like a punishment thing, they flogging these people. They had a policy called over boarding when the ship was where the sea org, and they would overboard somebody who was at once so thrown overboard, cracked, and so now you toss when the water right and so now you don't have overboard and cause. You don't have Shep right toss me, nor are they pull back out or fuck you How should remember so? I know further down the line of her. Oh, yes, they got back on the boat, but it was a former punishment, wild animals of boarding, Now they ve just assimilated that to be like. We don't have a boat, so modest. Will crack in the mouth or break his finger? Didn't have a boat anymore? No, while they have the free ones, but do not have a seaward ship like they used to now they have bases in, although celebrity centre around celebrities, They have been angeleno big factor like what happened to the boat. Why obsessed with

because I think that would be a cool thing on on the old Scientology Boat gone parties. This is this where they told the people bought Otis extra hair, German, I said it was the power of a job you any too. It was about that road started in the sea or an arms, while the APOLLO yeah, where they give o t eight, is called the freelance. These will have that doesn't have a boat, yes, the boats around that the seller outwards about c by that, but probably in the Bahamas, out where they go. He's good placed party and learn about the antenna, Faintness Dayton and it's that party nobody around our vital when they do have a party available celebration like us. the once all by relying on you, I would go to the gale every every year at all, gale, yet too slowly centre and wonder what happened. There was no speeches about how much Scientology is accepted in the community by the election.

He D Hawks LAPD, so the contractor much money to the air is yes, they give they give arm. They started a thing called the police Activities Fund League, sorry, the police, and I and I contributed to it my helped at night. They put on us to show for the kids every Christmas at celebrity Centre and they give the money the proceeds to what they created, which is called the police activities league and the present the the LAPD with money for children or sound, grew gray, but it was it that already spurt listen, purposeful, there's the policy called safe, pointing the community and that's what they're doing, and I didn't I know what is about right. You appear as if your intentions are pure so that you then have maybe favours like this happening. Were somebody files of police report and you get with

Where do you think this is gone like? Where? Were you woody anticipate your by this? I dont have a battle. I hope that we can do no because I I Joe, if you received a clause that I receive like one when I'm not working on the show on the executive producer of the show, so. They're not safe to just call anyone that ILO Core Annie, it's mine me and my it's where the one rail who have to vet these stories and kind of people trust us, because they know are telling the truth, and they know that we have their best interests at heart and telling the story correctly run anyone. You talked these people when I talk to them behind the scenes. Its is takes every piece of me not to be down, I have to be kind of their auditor. You know I mean they're Scientology origin. You keep my shit together.

But when I hang up on devastated riot and devasted riot, like I've, been part of this thing in a region like I'm getting what you re talking about, namely before him, maybe ten thousand worldwide, that's it well, it gives the appearance, because I thought, like these big events set the shrine auditory that they have every year right. They show what Scientology is doing. They use things like hundreds of millions in these really kind of electrifying statistics right and we bought this building. We bought that building and that would indicate growth were right. That's the subliminal message to you. You know there's people in there, but there are just buildings and bite you, leave that those buildings are besides your box and buildings, where they have to for tax purposes rain and the appearance that its growing but its work, but they have to get offload

some of this money. Do you have an end game with all those? My end game is just to tell these people stories to validate the their pain is real. I'm not gonna. Let the church bully them or Scientology, bully them into believing that they made it up that they're out to get money or faint it'll, make money doing the show Brown Mustang and how long are you doing it for atomic? I don't know I don't know I really how many episodes of you done with owing to an eight and then to specials likes or in other read it especial that we none, but You know, there's a whole other there's a lot of stories to be told. I didn't even scratch the surface So how many stores are we going to tell I dont know was my end game. My end games that these stories get out there that people getting sense enough where this church well served going church. This organisation is, is held responsible for the things that they have done and

They stopped destroying families. I mean there's so many tears to it that I don't. I don't know where it ends. I dont know word ends, but somebody plan as far as a plan or you're gonna stop hurting people, that's it you guess they got it takes responsibility for what you ve done. These stories are real. you're, not liars people, don't say they were heard. less did they dont go on tell vision for fame to it. They don't get money from doing that. They'll get money from doing that. The who wants to go on television say I was co, worsens getting an abortion and hoo hoo hoo does out for faint, really Joe, I was hit, I was abused. I was sexually molested. I allowed this to happen. These things are not easy for people to admit to rob. You know you think it's easy for me to say I was you know I believe. this one alive that my mother believed in a whole life that my stoutly we gave our life to this. They were you

very fortunate, your mother made it out. It could have been a little sweating. That's ok, we'll Rep Sorry, but you know how I feel that's what like, I can either way to get the shirt off the roads unites were her well depends a mean if it well, I do like sweat, ran like it. When I'm dress you like make its work in the regulations are not with Glinda. I think I think you're very brave, and I think we re not just didn't it's like what you are. with your show, but the way your admitting your own personal data. and up the battles that you're, having with your own mine, trying to sort of reformulate your view, of the world figure out who you are. You know I thank you swear import. And thank you remember we would here. Thank you baby and obviously I really thank you for having me because I'm it's the it doesn't come without some repercussions to you,

but I want you to know that I appreciate it really does in. sure and lets say hi again and that not over some whacking like this. After all these years jail. I guess I would follow us anyone's s tail the seven minutes before we started this. We had a very funny Congress. It was very funny. No seriously, would you talk of another year? What I would Initially, we now know for sure, but I think there's something in there. I don't know, there's something funny about lower talking. Nevertheless say what was it, what was it? What was a jealous smells thing that our smells and thing periods do not everybody around your show when it wants to about what Oh, I think you could see it on line and what was on any all the time, but where they should constantly was on a couple of months ago, yes, and I'm so glad

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We really take ice and girls. everybody else? tomorrow we gotta I will have you Fox Dilber in the morning. Gary Vainer Chuck in the evening, Oh yeah, that's right or double and doubts pitches and then Wednesday, nine eleven episode, nine one one legs Jones and Bravo together in studio, am I making a mistake we'll find out, hopefully we'll have a lot of liquor on hand should be very interesting. If you have any conspiracies that you would like us to to address just send me: tweet with hashtag nine one one nine hundred one eleven meeting episode, nine one one I will probably lumped into a bunch of nine eleven stuff for bunch of emergency stuff, but episode nine about showing episode, nine one one, how about that? Yeah that'll work, so hashtag,

episode nine one one ask me some some or suggests, asked rather some questions of some conspiracy we're gonna cover the moon, landing for sure we're gonna coverage have case assassination can dinosaurs, maybe cause any browser doesn't seem to believe the dinosaurs are real. We're gonna have a good guy, They have time so this week also dance floor, as is going to be here. He's the author of that Coyote book than ever. All the time former professor Dan Flores Wildlife expert, that should be a greater so a lot of stuff go on goddammit so appreciate fuck people thank you, everybody and take that's right