There's no way to escape tourism is the last time on the level of cannibalism started I don't want to trigger anybody today, predominantly whereas black you're, like a lot of our audience outside best, we're, not run a shame goths. Now, mostly what who we are machine, though, is its people, evil answered, Sir scary, you never here like it's. What I do not want to three didn't sound like a normal, knocking sound backup counting and then I turned the nor, but I opened the door and it was a man in a hot dog That's never scare know that you're with me

hot dog man, we're in both on a saturday what's going on me and I welcome in the last by gas Donna left everyone I am Ben Giza with Mark is far too low. We got beautiful, had risen browser you over there on our inner West Coast studios, I'm so fucking site I also have never been so chock full. I think I may have more research for this episode than even the Scientology episode yeah. It is ruining my life I'll write. If this this this episodes get into my pocket and brain, I was have Admettin Black Fox nightmare yellowed, you should. It is creepy shit, let's jump right, it's a! U can get it all out of your brain, so you can be smart again because if you listen to that this week, side stories, Henry came. Full circle really was full of new much. So, let's get that out today we are going to be covering the men in black While I had no idea per usual weird, these stories really are soon

in black phenomenon is among the most widely known aspects of UFO culture, mostly due to the series of movies starring. Well, Psmith and Tommy John Hume who saw Marcus very positive water. Frank Europe. Europe's greatest fallen off. I've been working to my Tommy Jones and fresh yeah. You guys ready yet zero for those yachts. Michel worries you get these wonderful tool Jack Nicholson from Batman However, the actual story of the men in black is much more multi faceted than a simple summer blockbuster real. Thank you Marcus. Your welcome. It was a pretty complex failed The emotional.

I spoke doubled between Tommy and well. They was complicated relationship so over the course of the next two episodes we're gonna cut the men in black in all of their potential forms from your classic demons pressing tales of ufos to pull on demons bent on manipulating the whirl. Oh, my goodness, seriously when you go ahead and take your Warner brothers branded men and black memory, racing flash bull and but rode out the window info, maybe use it or whatever. You ve ever now, we got allowing them animal. I oughta you jest bugging, you are using ratings entering or we owe money to Warner brothers. If we, if you do use ok, but this story is a I feel it is a phenomenon that has obviously been tangentially into for many many years and when you for, when you further dive into the subject number one, its separate like up earth opened a man a whole to the deepest darkest recesses of you. If ology ok is

we are going to be covering soup did not sit. Every single theory debts will look into the matter. Black story that that is anywhere in the EU. A fall, youth, illogical world dingy soup. Tonight I never understood that term soup to nuts consumers of food and that in the nuts are also food and others grew, I'm not. The sounds did not is all that it's the tale of the original guy. Actually, that's the true story of the original chef, Boyer DE was a real shep, would just rail users and will work to understood, and he can mass produced we all these for troops. He wasn't display Shangri LA right. Degrees, Dick is not. It's not exactly but the this is a truly frightening story: momentum, black or the perennial real villains of you have a world, there are the only thing close to them is the reptilian so and we use you get into their lower. I mean honestly, I was definitely was truly. Having nightmares me to arrive, makes sense, can't wait to hear about it

despite the myriad of different, tells told about the man in black. There is one thing that all men and black story share, no matter what the ultimate of the various men and black are the key denominator and all these stories is the keeping of secrets are now. However, what the secrets are and the reasons behind the secrets tins varies: depending on how you haven't secrets, like that, it's like they want to tell you it well the reasons behind the secrets, tin depending on what form the men in black take. Some of it is indeed just about the cover ups but other stories below something either far more sinister or far more mystical, oozing or

both ok, it's a bow, but before we get into those stories, let's acknowledge our main source. For today, today's book is the real men in black by ironic, read for which is a really fun collection of stories that highly recommend for anyone integral Morrison style, high strangeness, and we interviewed him for a patron series and I will say, but Palmer, be looking at the picture of the back of his book and also talk Norman person. Out of you know how he holds his keys from being covered in procedure. If you really, if you dig the invisible in all like the really weird. Shit, though, is underneath the story, the invisible the real men and black is absolutely the book for you all right, also but an also bring up the case book on the men in black by Jim Keith, which is another book that I have been reading. Never my I'm did its work will get to it and I would like to also bring up this only use script. Ferment

black for personally discovered it. Well, we were, in LOS Angeles, got a lot of things to say about society. So, let's begin the tale of the men in black in the mid nineteen bodies with the concepts, originator era, Albert Bender, cool That's a pretty good name for a concept originator of the most. Usually these guys have guph your names, Elbert Bender, our benders, some right name yet strong guy. This guy's a proud owner galvanise the prototype of the Super nerd, and he was the first person to ever be visited by the minimal. Really Albert Bender was achieved timekeeper at the acme, sheer company, which was at the time the world's largest manufacturer of scissors, wait hold on a second you're telling me this.

Was the chief time play for everyone is busting there ass to make scissors so that you can inevitably stab your family with them. He just like what do you do as I keep a tab? Yeah, that's it the time caper. We got seven minutes left them afternoon chef to get all these papers all snip, snap and because they're not gonna snip themselves ago, snapped up everybody. Some snap into our I come on at the Sesar factor. So this guy, he was like one of the first burst jobs to be lost to automation and it's closed just a clock very much. Ok, I mean I'd. Imagine in me, I don't know exactly how these assembly lines work, but I would imagine, in an assembly line type of atmosphere, a guy keeping I'm on everything and making sure that everybody is doing exactly what they should exactly when they should is a very important job. Maybe I like em, maybe for the run of the story, but right now I hate the tv time type are part of it is that I think it's a lateral like move, because at some point you sit Narrabee like I have a question: why have we not developed any left handed says?

How will we make you the timekeeper most hated position in the factor because of Albert's obsession with time he kept twenty chinamen clocks in the attic room where he lived in every fifteen minutes. They ve all go off at once, wow this guy. This is this is a tool I lied zone episode. Oh yeah, there's a guy to visit a weird way. It really is especially because he turned his entire parliament into a whorehouse yeah yeah, the house, where that attic room was located. We shared with his step father, but Albert made the best of it Painting is walls with super mental images of monsters and goes right like he was factually pretty cool guy does do was into it. He was He was watching the first Gleich of the formation of the first Sci FI movies. He was a big sci FI nerd over the amazing stories articles as what he was deeply into. He loved adventure stories and things in a plane Sars and goes in vampires and shit, and he lived in a creepy house filled with clocks.

You also painted demons. All of the walls which he shared with his step. Father would use a weird relationship to come. Habitation with now Henry said this guy, our bender made his room into a makeshift haunted house that he called his chamber of horrors me built the whole thing just to scare his friends when they came over hoping have like rubber bats, and he constantly played nineteen fifties. Halloween sound effects, records full of thunder and sobbing hidden by the women over from the factories with their of their other factory boyfriends, because at the you work in a factory with women that are jobs are just their jobs at a polish assessors and amends Are they end the scissors and they will have to keep each other saying so they don't start what stabbing each

with this is its dangers office, and so he would do these fun things rien bite everybody to have a party at his house and, like you most sumo chamber, reformers and they all go up into the attic and where he live with a step farther. Is never mind, father he's not my real father and go, and maybe I look out because it also this is like the nineteen forty, so they haven't seen shit like this. We don't really understand the idea of our predilection with ghosts and demons, and so they be like what the fuck is this and then he'd rigged these things up where you could drop. Spiders from the ceiling onto the girls, and he was like an ages, ran back the arms of their strong boyfriends, and I say who needs you, may I would never mess with anyone works in a year in a sharp innate babe. It's a nice factory, glorified knife. Or you can just go by knives. You don't have to get knife from work now, but you could do

from work. Do that whatever is it? What was the wife still around or knows just him, and it should have taught us tat. Father gave to single dude. You spoke at haven't killers, I'd like that. It's a really right about. As the strange Garbo see Albert, he came from one of those which families who always told horrifying stories about what became of the relatives of those types of families we're just so. Than bad has happened to everybody right like, for example, one tail the family told said a relative died of a brain hemorrhage caused by a ghost. A hot and the local cemetery is an awesome. It was a hot ghost woman. Ah ha that's through really slotted info here, but Bender also suffered from intense o c d,

as well as another possible undiagnosed condition, which may have contributed to some of his more fantastical interpretations of the events to follow, but we'll get into that later, honestly, OECD, probably a good condition to have for the chief time The best conditions have Yankee yeah, exactly are you make sure every second is accounted for and not a single snip has left on the fucking danced for the Albert Benders, deep into the paranormal began in nineteen forty six a full year and a half prior to the Kenneth Arnold Sightings, which many in the EU. If a community consider to be the first major, credible citing of modern times. Look that up if you, I looked up if you want some good UFO history gates of the it's, the first major recorded UFO, citing he was a. He was a pilot and he supports submitted an official wreck. Of seeing these this flying around his plane, yeah, so he's really on the four frontier of yellow this stuff go yet because the

a thing with him started with the ill fated flight nineteen, whose disappearance kicked off the world's fascination. The Bermuda triangle and now we know that was ocean, farts yeah. Basically, right after that Albert devoted every free moment, he could find to researching the paranormal and the occult by one thousand nine hundred and fifty that research. It intensified to the point where I felt confident enough to establish, along with a few buddies one of the first UFO networks, the precursor to organizations like Nike, app and move on in the nineteen forty just getting together with a bunch of other people. I feel a dressed really well just seem to dress really well back then, and talking about you a false, What had been like mother of Pearl like shirt with tan suspenders, tanned yeah, we're we're kind of sweat stains on rising, correct stain ties, a lot like good

being used here, even though they got nobody, the look good for right, but they they wake up every day they put pants and suspenders on cause. It keeps him from often themselves because their feet were to crooked to be in the warm up. Well, that's not so bad. If you don't gotta be in the work benders network was the international Flying Saucer Bureau gave a the eye affairs be gonna. Be me once I'm done without this show business fucking bullshit able to just a discard all of this stuff in just go and let my mind play and form a group of other like minded individual, yes, and we will get to the bottom of the men in black issue. If I ever have children, I can't wait to go and have them visit Uncle Henry, and then lowly like pull them closer to me and then we'll leave to suit I've been marred by the true. It is bent creature good to see. I Andrey took to you

from the original conception of the I s be for it to get off the ground, but when it finally did, the whole thing took off impart to its relatively popular magazine, space review here, I review Jupiter. Hence why what's no dates on it, I'm going to tell you all gone star. No debts on it also would not serve me a hot dog, no matter how much I yelled at it. It's a planet so, but the I s bead now space review were fade into last, very long as just a few months after it was all established. The harassment began whose

there. They were getting harassing we're getting Hereat. Why you gonna, whereas these people you're about fund ha ha ha ha ha. You didn't really out one at the moment. No idea, I pretend to forget it. It's like when I take it that I have very little by little in many with my a blinkered. It's all a performance. I performance is so good that you recover damn industrial markets can attest. Another look right now: good law, but the harassment began with what would become a regular part of men in black encounters phone calls. Now, when the mid call, sometimes the receiver is met only with an eerie silence but have to correct you on their its

I be man, I gotta say right to say that I am I be re. I will fight, knew somebody I I have to say that it might be. I can't say: maybe I don't know maybe makes them. Suddenly they have. The same body is the violator I just came over me and I was quite instilled a fear of it might be, but at the same time I like it, I dont like sounds like the meant handicap man that J Edgar Hoover capped underneath his desk there would suck on speed all that. Well tat. We went to get TAT John Lennon our. I won't column, Migs Idiot. I like MAPS Isaac. What's the difference, we men and black and Emma be am I odd stands for a group of them Doesn't men men and at no point than ever, a man about? Are they ever alone yeah Erika the MIT Is she say, men and black when it is you're talking about them? as so terribly MA am. I B is the

entire genre, men and black. I really am I being known men and black: is into a logical, or do you know what I am actually understand why this made you're dumber? What does get it out that many black is the concept? oh man in black hawk, and am I b or a group of men in black all right. Nibs are not not not that not not they're not are not allow so win. The MIT call, some The receiver is met only with an eerie silence, but some people who have had experience to say that there is either a metallic screeching or garbled robotic voice. Speaking nonsense tell me: do you. I Cathy Group

You're wrong in Europe, there are prank, and people were well there intimidating people as it out. I got a sandwich. Why don't you my good friend? Are you my friend? You are my enemy. Other cadeau sandwich range phone calls come into the house this week or in the case of bender. It was just a stillness that inspired is anxiety. Then Bender started to believe he was being followed after one night and a cypher movie, Bender went home, opened the door to his room and was met with the over powering stench of sulphur. He then saw a bright object, hovering in the middle of the room, but when he turned on the light it vanished, so Albert checked his research files and due to his intense OECD, he knew for a fact that some one had been perusing was somehow

or just like the step, Father Lookin for like a pair of socks. Nowhere does not want that was gotta, be thirty magazine somewhere or more of these shelves, and things only got worse from there for an entire year, Bender was put through the ringer, followed everywhere by the smell of sulphur plagued with migraines and poltergeist activity. In most disturbing of all, he was haunted by men in black suits Hugh, there's a guy. Seen in this that I thought was it's pretty fun where he is at the movie theater watching of moving felt someone staring at him, I know of any. We any of you. Ve ever had that I get a quantity because I Alexander movies alone, and I cackle throughout them. So people just spare me all time. There was eyeball on me and it has been like. Do you really want to be able in the man cackling alone in the end the horror movie? They should you be the kind of thing you should use, leaving do his fucking devices

Well, I saw you, I don't know, I don't think you're really intimidated. U yours, you catch big ol begets nachos. Will I rod either. I can't wine or beer on us, it near drink it at him and then they fuckin go between put to him. I like second, I'm I've ape, there's a lot of reasons. People are looking at me, but I'm sitting there imagined but Alfred better sitting there watching the movie and feel something staring at him, and then he looks over and there's a man at the crouched at the end of the row staring at him and his eyes or glowing like the school while, while while while and then he said we will work and he looked turns away, looks back dudes gone and then he sees us again and again he's walk into sweet alone, seeing these things with glowing eyes coming item, and I have this whole scene by ahead of him, walking through the alleyways. To that Billy Idle song eyes without a face, so one that inspired Richard Ramirez yeah.

In recent times. At another s, the word Suez Evan or is having a real pee wee Herman experience in that movie theater ears and we're just stare and Adam doing whatever he's doing. Oh yeah, goodness, yet any said that every time heeds these men kid feel stick sick to stump. Then they actually showed up at his house in a group of three. They were all wearing black suits and Homburg hats, which are pretty much like a slightly different style the door there very nice hats and a lot better than Fedora Zone rural. Yes, I suppose so you're I'd say it's definitely a choice up. That's what people good back. Then, though, so the men communicated with bender telepathic early and told him that any and all research on UFO should stop immediately he first Scott spoken to buy them. First, he didn't know what was happening we would start to do. Is they have the during

the international flying saucer, but it was a bureau. The international fund Ah, Sir Beer, I believe, was during their efforts be meetings. They would have he's believe they sit me like we are pursuing. What we're doing here's where welcoming alien to the planet, earth. Ok, we don't we at the time it was not a fear of flying saucers and aliens, so They were like we're gonna, be the welcome crew so part of what they used to do, which is now what doktor clinical Doktor Stephen Greer does. They said Circle and they would material I they would mentally picture themselves. Shooting up into the universe and sending a message of peace outside. Calm aliens come to us come on me because you're not gonna, word there Would they would imagine you two matters floating on a raft with me Atlantic imo. Now is one of the big after he had started seeing them they can they broke into his house. He said he met them.

They showed up in this weird this this of non spaces, black space and the first things to have the first things they said to him, which is I'd want to happen to be so bad. You have dedicated yourself to the solution of the strange problem of unidentified objects in your atmosphere. Intrusive teeth and sincere new have devoted many hours to it. We also know that such interest into termination lightly to something that could bring you arm. So then, after that looks like I also brought some punch line. I know I noticed Eve you're supposed to bring some cookies for her last week's mistake. What do you do? even like look at these people. After all this, man? I mean everybody's as I wow while, but then my friends in public

No, he if you never acknowledged these secret revelry now another own like when we did. I did a group, would all ball comedian d and e playing. We are we with a bunch of us playing the indeed together and no one would speak about it out loud to anyone. It's a secret, an interesting thing about that big ritual that they would do or they would all sit around together is they would print in space for view they would announce what date and time they'd be doing We would ask all the readers to do it at the same time also would yeah and but which also is really interesting, because you know to bring up the invisible little bit. Morrison did much the same type of thing when the invisible Susan you're being cancelled? We talked about this before we're here, asked all the readers to do a masturbation sexual all. At the same time he did he say the series from being cancelled and it worked up like that. No yes, clubs like mass these big, like mass rituals, are

I wouldn't say their real or anything like that, but you others there's some two at their sudden to all that. Yet what what? What? What? If you were late, we'd bender? We would take you out Yeah I mean job? No matter what wondrously will, after the man in Black, told or to seize all investigative activities. They then confiscated every copy of space review that they could find and disappeared in a cloud of yellow fog, again leaving behind the smell of sulphur inverts right and so just a year and a half after publication began. Space review had its last issue printed with this message that most rare, the flying saucers is no longer a mystery The source is already known, but any information about this is being withheld by orders from a higher source seek. We would like to print the full story in space. But because of the nature of the information we have been advised, the negative sorry,

we advise those engaged in saucer work to be very cautious. All right. Is it possible that sulphur, maybe it was a dangerous situation, sort of you do. What are you thinking of methane sulphur methane or to raise it all differ very differently? yeah I'll. Do it I'll get. Sulphur smells like on with hell in methane, smells like farts, that's what far darling Sulphur smell. Do sulphur has a bit of a spark smell. Didn't like suffers match. I don't know I don't know you know, I mean I'd ever Tibet, Somalia class right now the different things out, what it is it s, the sulphur? Actually, you light a magic tourism. My hour day, assault our resolve, the FARC, sure matters out. Yes, no course, a cryptic message, like the one Henry just read, was perfect fodder for the already competitive and paranoid field of UFO research. These guys have been jealous of each other from the very beginning. Oh they work in along. I will differ

You are folk groups are very jealous of other UFO groups because they all want to be the only one with the story right and even though Bender drop the story for the time being. A fellow of SB member named gray. Barker picked it up and ran with in nineteen. Fifty three Barker published a book called they knew to watch about flying saucers. What's your book all about that, that is the most health descriptive, an idle and all they all have to be like that, because you people were buying things it after didn't get to read. Reviews back in the day. You'd have to actually choose a book by its cover, so you have to make a good. Ok in that book featured Albert's and a coin, the name which would serve as the catch all buggy man for conspiracy theories everywhere. The men in black Barker is an interesting character here, because he was at the sing

I'm a believer and unknown hope, Sir, who like to play pranks and his fellow you apologists, even didn't like the fellow men and black believers, he'd crank column more specifically the most gullible ones and need imitate like the the harassment the man in Black would do interesting. Hello, Mr Brittan, Arthur Yeses body, my name's Tom, I'm one of them guys a black that you're everyone. You should return herself for the asshole store quite yummy again I guarantee you these guys as soon as that Branco ended. Regional could have done without that. You're goin extremely well. It is good that it would have been nice if it was a pleasant phone

or die. Oh yeah embargo Barker. He also like two egg people on particularly Albert Bender, like four headlines you, which is being heard these guys- and he would build up the story like almost gas lighting, I'm right and like telling him that the stories or something there were actually much bigger than they remembered it being really monies up where's the troth yeah. Well, that's what did that were later on other you apologists will go on to say that Barker wrote both books because we'll find out that So Bender wrote a book. Why internet after me get into after that mom, but but was really serious about the story there that there is a core truth in this. It seems to be at some point. He was actually approached by like Fettes at some point and telling him to stop it. And then that was the original impetus to stop. I s be. He was getting really fucking paranoid. At that time, it was. Obviously when you are dealing with is alien suffer him. It was a goofy goofy within it seemed to be.

Dear, actually were eyes on him and then Barker went and kind of flipped it up to sell some books. I see. Ok, burger doesn't seem to be a nice. Nice guy he's not point around oil both on the part of the meat? Those of you apology is storytellers like Barker AKA, yet and so like bender for a while, he stuck to the mean up. Heavily, tame, if not spooky men in black story, that he originally tools. But nine years after that encounter vendor published a book called flying saucers and the three men and who boy is it? Is it a doozy now about thirty pages of it, and it's pretty erotic

a rotten there's, a lot of actually lot of our Roderick writing going on with these characters is reasonably one guy that we're gonna talk about later on in the year of ducks and sense of erotica, like the fellow that we interviewed Henry yes, oh yeah yeah, he gets real Barbara with and so he's right in all of this stuff. Next, to a step farther, staring at her stepfather metalworkers sexism happening in this room. Was that bothers what's happening in his mind there, not all living in the attic together at all, but you gotta go. You meet the refrigerator cause you're, both old and Hungary, and what are you working on it? I wish I could tell you step bother, but its discussion does not know you'd, like you can tell me all about it. I'm a step farther snow. You look in the store the flying saucers in the three men, the man in Black, didn't just threatened, bender and vanish into a cloud of yellow fog in this

and the three men surrounded bender and him unconscious with nothing more than a touch of their hand on his shoulders. Next thing, Bender knew he had awoken in a secret under alien base in an Arctic who there, the men in black, told them that they were not human but were in fact only appearing to be so inhabiting bodies they'd stolen from earthlings. What do you imagine getting your body stolen? rough day. That is just going back to your wife me. Like I'm a ghost my body. I promise you still make yellow go stead, arches fortunately, a bad reference now of aliens went on to say that our planet planet earth was a curse at planet, full of suffer in chaos and, unlike any other planet in the galaxy. My own

The reason why they came to our shantytown of a planet was because they needed our sea water as a power source, and so should he now is you got that mediator little? You need half of our planet, and only if we were only one of the many planets used, pretty much like they looked at us, is like an intergalactic gas station in a bad neighbour, our hell. Yeah man we're the street trash staff at least get everybody else so after birth. Eating bender, for God knows why the alien revealed is true form turns out. The alien was almost identical to the artist representation of what we, now as the plant woodsman serve Braxton County West Virginia. What that's the only time West Virginia will be brought up in the story. Just please tell me. Internet

a giant spider like the end of its own kind, is sort of like the the fly woodsman is among the more terrifying look encrypted where it's got these here, huge Red round eyes got kind of a hood behind its head, but that Catholics, like a big plan, long arms with big spindly fingers Where's, my god very kind of addressed like a weird like silver needs very creepy in its much akin to the moth man, you're. Ok, glowing eyes and it looks like a big old Libya with an alien face in the middle man. That's excited like a martian Thrasher member a head bangers? Oh yeah them there. What does that have to do with this work?

Is there anyway to connect the word scores of like you remember when a tagged, emu unawares, I dont understand, and instead, so after these guys got Bender Gooden scared, they sent him back to his attic with a warning. They said quote, you are charge to keep our secret. We do not wish to take extreme action and you will find that you will often consider giving away you some part of this information. Would you get such thoughts? You will be reminded of the consequences by headaches, which would be almost unbearable. Do you at such times, beware of more

serious conditions. We didn't bring about a four hour: erection dont, you got you better without not then remain you can answer this, but why do they do that? What I mean, why did they Take em all the way to an article just to tell him that humans are a bunch of pieces of shit and then tell em show them who they actually were and why they were there and then tell em, don't tell no one I literally have the word for word their reason. From the bookcase book men and black. Thank you. We feel that you are a very good contact for all. Send your planet earth. You are an average person and we know that what we tell you and show you will not be believed by

Any one you might tell you, you are not a person of great renown on your planet. Therefore, we have nothing to fear. At present. I like that he got a little. After facing humor, and there was the alien say. No, I know we're right you. U is writing about. That's the thing that still not a reason. I'm asking why they told why not They told him specifically whereby they would tell anybody. Has no one's gonna believe abundant he's just an average person? Why would they tell even in opening up markets? This is the disease trickster God Shit for God. Should it's been around since the beginning of time and then the pull you up a yank you out of their life. The link began you out of your life, specifically just to fuck with you just a half the time. What have we learned about aliens Univee aliens are real and you ve been abducted. Why should we fucking trust them?

the double layer of paranoia the creeps into your mind. As you really begin to study, you oppose that's how you really begin understand that you have comma you apologist when you can't even try- the words that an alien mouth mark. As you bring up a good point, I'm or there are men and black who just go back to their men, and black managers are like. Why do we have to adopt this guy again? Why we have to bring em to wherever they hell we're gonna bring of? What is the point You are not death reasons why you are to do, and I now do not. Admittedly, that's always gotta goofy logo visible goofy. However, there very well could be some truth to bender story. It could just be that hinder filtered his visit by men in black through the lens of mental illness, combined with a close friends, wild imagination. Ok back

in the early fifties, and this is true. The f b I put together a group, a scientist called the Robertson panel, whose job is to assess the national security ample nations of all the UFO sidings that plagued America for the previous half decade. That's good! Maybe you put him in a big rubber band and say you get out of that rubber band until you solve the you. If I wish you every good and then gather also Government works like double, dare contractor containers head headed by Mark Summer, speaking of OECD marks on oh, yes, now the path ended up concluding that the EU efforts in another themselves were not a threat. If they ever were. Did alien craft and not just misidentified objects. In the first place, corn Quote Robertson panel, quoting quote not threat. It's your fucking answered the fact that they caught they needed a reason to close project bluebook after they are, use the poorest of the poor man that would they there was dragged through the mud.

Ellen Heineken use force to debunk all these alien visitation and you oppose sightings worth you dig deep. I had it ended up flipping em into a believer because of how much he had a lie: for the government who well what was the last episode that we brought up Heineken. I think our last alien episode we talk about Heinrich a lot in this whole phenomenon, right, Hudson, Valley Triangle, Hudson Valley trial as yet. So if you want to know more about all that go listener, Hudson Valley Triangle episodes, but what the Robertson panel ended up deciding was while the ufos themselves were not dangerous. The ideas of ufos were see America with four. I shouted the korean war at this point, which he other career where was essentially a proxy war between us and the Russians. Russians about the north, we'd back the south and while cold war paranoia was not yet at its zenith. The military was extremely concerned that a sneak attack from the right,

skis, go come at any moment and fill can filter making all of these decisions while eating white bread with liver. Worse, just like Walter Math, I wanted a charade. They earn a lot of that. It's so good! You got some raw onion on it with them. Really really intense, horseradish mustard? You can never kiss like a person, you love ever again it's an incredible sandwich. Ok, but with all the Ufos being seen on what seemed to be a daily basis, it was thought the public's and by extension, the military's mines would be muddled by all this UFO talk in the reds would be able to slip right through there's all its very trusting because there were UFO sightings. Nearly Nanking fifties above the White House that was in the alot of people, call them and pilots call them any was Dar documented. A well documented, citing and they were concerned about the aliens there will I go. Whatever world will get to that, but mostly

We just concern about we ve scrambled jets. Go after these ufos. The Russians will just TAT S one of these times and what, if they're, making the ufos? Because now that's a whole other side. Jaunt to this whole story is the beginnings of people like whether it's kind of a chair and the egg scenario. Where do you believe somebody like? Ah, if you believe, Philip Corso rode all evoke about Roswell, but the idea that, when Roswell Court, when the ship it crashed it while they were, trying to like Retro make it into you have over their own never spent. There were several countries trying to make me like weird saucer, like plains, so that they were thinking at number one. This could be of a foreign technology. It's coming to attack us a number to the people that are pro. Getting the belief in the extra terrestrial version of the story of Ufos could be filled with communist

it or you re using it to distract us. I just don't feel like they had that technology because they had satellites so easy, a dog copilot it you know. So maybe they were quite there yet, maybe now, after the Robert, panel FBI, director, J Edgar Hoover known for cracking down on subversive cultural elements in America gave his own to sense. He started to think that the communist might start infiltrated. Ufo groups like Albert Benders, I Sb Hoover's Thinkin, went that one of these guys in one of these groups could create a panic, were they to gain enough credibility and that panic would distract the air force which would leave America wide open for a sneak russian attack. That makes all the sense in the world. Mr Hoover thing, I'm coming into the war room today to tell us your strategy implant. Yet in the hall russian thing, that's a conspiracy thought to now. If you'll remember, we actually, we covered Russell very extensively. You remember from around

while Series one theory about the nineteen forty seven crash is that the craft was just a soviet experimental aircraft, stuffed with deformed russian mental patient, sent to create an alien panic, but never aben army of did it happened in it. Sorry, a gift One? We all know it, but that's the thing it was never a panic. It's more of. It is a fascinating ass, a nation distraction, but it was never a pan and a great destination for tourists. They were afraid it was it was, can become apparent arrive and I will tell you what the one thing that that theory taught me to never do ask open a periodic because I never want to see that Shaw. I never want that. Wasn't me no in the area in question, so burning in the minds of the government that J Edgar Hoover actually sent out for a copy of great barkers book they knew too much about flying saucers and that

so the matter of public record real arm many nor many records on the book that showed the J Edgar Hoover was actively researching these UFO groups. He really felt I mean. Obviously we know how paranoid and how awful J Edgar Hoover was, but he went deep into it. So there there is a whole world of of feds investigating these. You are for researchers that I honestly think as the first indication of where these men in black stories came from sure I mean it seems like they're. Taking these people a little too seriously. Aren't they there's just a group guys you know, but if your J Edgar Hoover like we are really big issues, go about civil rights war. All there's gotta, stop! I it's interesting that they took all the time to do investigate these shows how furiously they took the UFO issue here and how

until then they ve been around since than they have been ridiculing the issue. I am saying that people to believe in you officer cranks because they don't have the answers that their data, which are supposed to give to the american people to create the stability that they crave to keep their fucking corporate talk or seagoing really do have the answers and they're not telling us I mean the american government can cope MA. However, now so pretty soon, J Edgar Hoover started sending out FBI agents out and about to ask a few questions, and it just so happens that the Robertson panel, which was top secret at the time, was formed the same year that Alber Bender had his experience with the men in black. In fact, Gray Barker, author of the book, that first mention the man in black, got a visit of his own from a few guys who are particularly interested in the eye. F S be,

The story goes that a few weeks before the visit bender had printed up business cards furs. I F s: blubber ram, miss any gave Barker a set of business cards that named him as chief investigator. I love nerves money because we all love on the same way. You know I'm a nerd as we ve talked about one who found VIP investigator lanyard. I love it makes you feel, secure rights nice to have a card that, when someone says like How do you do you don't have to say? I live with my stepfather, your eye and say I am chief investigator of thy S bay. I love that they all live like Buzz Lightyear before he found out. He was They are very serious about. It are measured, make there really into their roles, but they also these guys. You can also tell they have like a back. Then least they had a little bit of a sense of humor about themselves and they were also they worked quite as serious about all

they were having fun another. Why me like a veto as rather than a ton of fun with each other? To get it? I mean this is the key for Vista print. I mean this is its top ticket a card back in the day. Who which one of you listeners, remembers that the free Vista print article. I use them piles of those that Parliament has offered some important reason. Deal. I don't even have a job and I still had em yeah credit in the first up to a career as stupid. Let it have you got a paper. Were it? Was these I've as be business cards that brought the FBI to barkers Doorstep Barker said that heat. We given a few these business car system, close friends and as far as he knew they all still had em. What the F b, I was like big business cards. Now, let's get serious. I guess, because, according to the agents that were asking the questions, one of those cards have been found in the pocket of

Serious man who had shown up in a forward a hospital suffering from unexplained seizures; ok, but apparently barkers, Sir and that he knew of no such man satisfied the agents, because all they did was thinking first time and then they left on. They were never seen nor heard from again and that's not the only one of these types of stories. There's another story that it's about a man named Harold dulled that are cited a you have fallen Morey Island in nineteen forty seven three days before, can An old observed his ufos and he saw a basically he saw aim of E thought object crash. He went in was flying above it he will need. Tat, he was going out. Another pilot he saw a weird white metal spread along this beach? He got his friend Fred Christmas to fly him back over pick up a bunch of this metal and then event We need to know what to do with it. So then the story of Kenneth Arnold came out

and because you would like big, they called him. Would you come and help us deal with this? Do you our own ufos story? she showed up their pain, em they're. All I go into all this, this weird metal, this white heavy, like very, like light for what it's supposed to be metal and then all Agnes I just showed up the fucking G man showed up, and he does like hey, so we're gonna. Take all this work you guys. Are you guys didn't see any the shade or weren't throw you in jail for ever and since, like unjust laughed and which I believe you know how he fuckin heard about the story. Well, it seems that there is less alien crashes or UFO crashes than before, maybe they're becoming a driver, Hoss advocating our environment better a you know. Actually that is kind, a sort of a theory that we're gonna get it into the next episode. When we start talking about aliens and say They navigate the environment better, and I know a little bit more about our demand. In our or are time ago.

It gets better as the century marches on. Ok what Barker, is by no means the only person being visited by the men in black nineteen. Fifty three that same year, two of em showed up in an attorney's office in parts unknown. As the story was told you a foe investigator Harold T Wilkins under condition of anonymity according to the source, to

six and a half foot tall abnormally thin man, dressed in the classic men in black black suit black Fedora one to appeared one day unexpectedly in the attorney's office, where the source worked interesting. These two men were immediately given high level jobs within the company, but no one, but the head boss knew who they were, or what exactly was that they were supposed to be doing there. But what people did know was that the two men were normal. For example, their risk in hands didn't seem to have any joints at all really and they appeared as if they had only a vague notion of how human acted as if they dislike skimmed informational pamphlet a few days earlier, but its we're with them when they didn't know how doors worked there like walk up to shit me like a modern, there's apparatus there, like that's a door even get in here in the first place the high

drain. Just kind of starts immediately. You doubtless do will be hard to open a door without without bones fingers he, I suppose of yet another joints or anything I mean it's a thing. Maybe they were just like some sort of vegetable material that could be bent at will could be enter places that are the push door. Then how do you get out? In addition, all that these guys also had superhuman strength on one one of the guys, despite being impossibly skinny, put his hand on, for filing cabinet to steady himself and when he removed his hand, his fingers had left indentations half an inch deep coup. Trophy yeah, like me, yeah. I did on the outside fat on the answer. Of course, one of the employees who are freaked out beyond belief

the FBI is one did in those days and suspicious characters were about. But the Emma bees must have got word because by the time the F b I showed up the strangers were gone interest in today's Le Spock us on the left is brought you by blue apron, skip meal planning and get straight and cookin with blue apron. Enjoy unforgettable meals, inspired by the vibrant cooking of the Mediterranean, like seared salmon and spice Yourn salsa centred around fruits, veggie lean meets and plenty of olive oil. These recipes, our deliciously, nutritious with incredible ingredients and shut design recipes blue apron lets. You see the power what food can do. Blue apron delivers farm, fresh ingredients and step by step recipes to your door in the menu changes every week, based on what in season in his design by blue aprons in house, culinary team, Lou Apron offers three plans: the two person meal plant, the family meal plan and the wine plan. We hear at the parks, Hidalgo, household, love

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where they go from being misconstrue G men to being demons of the EU are followed. You were ok so in September, eleventh, nineteen, seventy six doktor Herbert Hopkins, a general practitioner who practised hypnotherapy, received a visit from the men in black concerning an alleged alien abductee. The hockins have been working with named David Stevens around, that's when they had really really nice pocket watches, to put you out to get you into that zone, yeah, that's we have to be, and then it then they suckered at first. I did a little order. The process for David Stevens abduction was pretty run of the mill, but it's still caught the attention of the men in black, which is actually fairly common in these cases, as actually rare the man in black show up on the scene of a citing. It's gotten a lot of media attention, why's that will get into ok

into a careful asking questions. So one night Hopkins got a phone call from someone aiming to be from the New Jersey. You F, O Research organization, a k, a magician RO? You for a man thing was, though, the new jus FRO didn't really exist. What do you mean There was no need you for a while, then, who called but the man in Black oh Josie, but Hopkins, took the stranger at his word and invited him over that very same night and this here is another fairly common occurrence when it comes to men and black encounters oftentimes people go completely against their normal instincts and will invite these strangers into their home without ever really questioning it only afterwards.

That they realise that they let a weird skinny stranger into a book in a black suit into their home. Just because the weird skinny stranger ass yet now mean that is how lonely, DIA big, like well, you bear so, of course you can come over. You gotta, you gonna cross check it without friends have in common and face more, like you know, whole tag it also very similar to the stories of the vampire that we will get into also later, not an Hopkins case as soon as he hung up the phone, he walked to the front door to turn on the porch life for the stranger, but much to his surprise, the stranger! was already in his brought yard and as soon as the light went on, the stranger walked up to the door and knocked when Hopkins opened the door. He found that the man was naturally dressed all in black, but his skin was so white that the color was closer to a call,

than that of a living being our it? Let's not malign this well dressed guy from Wisconsin. Now this is what he was. He with this is that its thee was like a living scarecrow, any showed up all fuckin perky jerky, all weird, with his skin unnaturally white in his clothes, just fucking hanging off this body, just hovering front of the door immediately after a phone call- and this is nineteen, seventy five. So it's not like. He had a cell phone. He was calm from the front yard right and there were no phone, boots round either. Ah doc. Don't so don't go think and that yea and obviously the car phones, also a couple years off to see. Take down the fuckin quite loud, nay, Sayer sceptics gap in the weird thing about this guy was that he was also wearing gray swayed gloves. Can you do that? One? Can you

gray haired you can wear a grand accessories that are growing up. I know you're talking. This is very there's a lotta, weird sup, that's lumped into this is what the term high strangeness means. There's many things are gonna, be feel incongruous, almost Samper Boca and furthermore, he had no hair. He didn't even have eyebrows or eyelashes, but the most disturbing feature was demands in bright red lips. He had these painted Joe. Her like lips on knowing you like put yourself in the man shoes for a second, you open the door. There is this gaunt man hanging there. With a smile. That is, in my mind, do remember the cut seen from where the rings when they talk to sovereigns emissary, who were here. The thing or the like you see it's like that raises a doubt leads

bird biting we men and he s a bee like it's very creepy. Many looks down. He's got his Zira Bottle, I find I ve never doubted every armors, but still Hopkins. Invite the stranger inside, without even knowing his name well, why? Ok, all right once inside the stranger started, asking questions about Hopkins latest hypnotic regression patient David Stephen soon, but as he asked the questions, Hopkins notice that the stranger had no acts and spoke with an own emotional and monotone votes and moved robotics early again as if he wasn't quite sure how to be human wow. This is the part that I love the most as any sitting. There is yet aged very strange. Habit of he was asking him about his patient. He would tap the front of his mouth using the back of his fingers which was a very strange habit again sounds like a person whose never had a habit before

I urge you to think and, as you would touch his face, he didn't have red lips. It was lipstick. He'd literally had a whole with no lips painted on lips on top that any kept wipe it I'm off onto his glove has gone. Excuse me, there seems to be a problem with my wits. There seems to be a problem with my lips at scary and after the stranger gleaned is meant as much information as he could about David Stevens,

He changed tack and started guessing the contents of Hopkins pockets or what? What other content could he give the other than like examine already gotten, but he turned to him and is like dig out the coin that is in your pocket and you reach down, and he pulled out of his be pull that go into his palm of his hand. I said watch the coin and ass he was watching the coin. His vision began to grow, fuzzy, any story like get double and he looked at it and it started spoken. He sittin there watching it and then it changed color and then disappear. Yeah turned blue all right. Ok, this was not too long after the death,

Barney Hill, who, along with his wife Betty, if you remember, was among the first famous alien abductee of cork Alice nor betting, Barney, Hell episode more information on that, and so with the creature. Whatever was the man in Black asked him this sitting? Is it? Do you know what happened to burn in Hell? No, I dont replied Hopkins I'd know that he died and do you know what he died from a heart attack? Maybe no that's not entirely accurate. They died because he knew too much. And then he said that he used the technique they used on the coin on burning hills, heart o, my God than engines like cut to like me,

freak negress angel. Wasn't there know you was now address, knows even born yet wasn't even born yeah yeah now and then the stranger told Hopkins, and if he wasn't careful, the stranger was going to do the same thing to him. He did that door. Let em into your house will Barnhill he'd actually died from a cerebral hemorrhage when Hopkins didn't know that you know the YAP and the stranger then told Hawkins to destroy everything he had on the David Stevens CASE, who in some seem to go wrong as the stranger got up to leave his speech. Sorted slowing down any couldn't seem to walk straight. You just said my energy is running. Low must go now good. My and he wandered towards

Door, like all her kid Jerky like Vincent, not Rio, four men in Belarus, where he's like trying to get out the door and can't use the door and he's like kind of like weirdly like shuffling down the steps? Do we know for a fact that Joker wasn't her Madame LA too big to big wait, you big gotta, be gotta, be skinny. Ogilvy Morland incurred is to be a man and you can't be there's not a fat man in Black there's, no they're they're not allowed. I don't think so. Ok now, absolutely not interesting. So Hopkins help the man in black. HU, the door open it up and as soon as options open the door. A bright light appeared in his front yard. The man in Black did a Hershey jerky walk towards it, and both of them disappeared forever Auctions was breathed out, so he immediately de magnetized all the tapes of his sessions with David Stevens and for good measure through me

fire, along with all his notes and file that he's what Madeline conduct in the movie glue. That's right you flames now here's the big question: what the fuck was that thing? What the fuck That being the case law- and this is where we did not actually want without the problem- well, Nick Red Fern and many others think that the answer to some of the most bizarre of the men and black tales can be summed up with a single word. Help us paupers do not remember castle. What a topic is I don't want to talk. Is I know what you guys? Don't do it. What is not what we got into a whole, but what we do know. What do you think a top? you know I'm not gonna Jesus Fashion, shall I don't gotta get too deep into what I know about help as well. To give you a refresh

We cover these things a long time ago, yea torpor movies. Georgie murmuring, ok is a kind of thought form energy ghost here, that's what I'm talking about a thought for energy goes: aha, yeah yeah yeah. So what is a thought for energy ghost? It's the thing that you guys did gross with no. No, no, that I never did anything grows with a tall bullet top up now. Flesh, like I don't know, that's region in the flesh light was very real and manufactured in China. I just use my hand re use that as well, so we all know what to tell, but is a part of it, but it's truly like how do you explain something like this? You could you straight up say that that man is lying and nothing ever happen, bright, roaches obviously a thing which does happen quite a bit, people seek attention, but the minimum phenomenon. This is just one example of it. Next episode, we're gonna go even to even more of these examples of these of these this entity, but seems

be created almost by us snap. You like that with the use of a top, a torpor, is being that brought into the real world from the imagination of the conjuror using nothing. But sheer will ya Do you know no crab known her noted that users is theorize at them, then in black are actually topers created nothing more than the sheer imagination of Albert binned, benders possible experiences with the FBI, combined with his own mental powers and the imaginations of his fellow who followed just Co AIDS essentially brought a living idea into this world. Ok, I have a working theory in my mind,

that if you are already seeing you folks, don't you fucking languages? Why do want to know? Why is how is it? A working theory by working theory means that it has been proved yet and you still working on, I get on and malamute which you me and I'm writing nothing. I'm doing no math technical about helping aside, but I I might Our belief now, after reading the so much about Ufos as believe it to be already seeing ufos, and I believe that what we ve talked about, what the and especially with the Hudson Valley Triangle, is that it of something called the Eminem technology which essentially, where fifty percent of the phenomenon that we are the three complete. The circuit of seeing the you felt like we bring it into existence partially because we are attempting to observe it.

Whatever the intelligence it is behind. It is decided, that's away, wants to present itself to us, and I think many black for the same thing, except they are the evil side of it. Will, then? Why can't we can't we just negative side of it? Can't we just do it? Parents do in their upset with their children, but like I brought you into this world that I can take you out and then and then break these things. A hoe I'll get him Lord. How thing about topics is that, like all living creatures because they are living creatures, even though they are just thought, forms topers need to feed on something and what topos need to survive is high. Motion whether like Roseanne Nets, whether it be like of anger or depression. What have you every top of feeds on something? Deaf, oh, but in the case of the man in black, if they are indeed topers what they need more than anything is fear,

yeah, like the barber. Do air monsters ink yeah this bread for an argues is what the man in Black seem to go after cases that are in the grand scheme, inconsequential like the David Stevens, ok, aluminium bite, they're, not visiting like the Travis Walton to the world, the minute fire in the sky guy, because if they were to visit that guy, then they just be a small part of the story if they visit people who sightings or more run run of the mill than the men in black but come the story ice. They are psychic attention, whore it is kind of a thing is that they have to cut almost propagate thrown existence and if they are actually a unintelligence, they actually are a thing that exists, and this is one of the extending fingers of the thing writing. It presents itself to our reality. As is

in black. It will fight as hard as possible to make itself exist like we do like we have to do in order to survive and that fear that doesn't have to come directly from the person who opens the door. If you were all creeped out by the story, we just about the man with the bright thin lips. I am that we feed the top own you top. I fed the tall particles and we're sitting in joking about it, but were also feeding the total by blasting this out to our listeners, and also we do that. It was the thought that kept me fucking paralyzed awake last night, as I said because my up I'll go through. Eventually, obeying tell me all about how my apartment buildings seems to be pretty haunted. We have several members of my apartment, complex that have seen, ghosts in our public, I went down to the recycling been less worthy, been seeing these fuckin go really, walk around their rhetoric, and now I'm scenes the White Dude bargain with the red lips disappear and over the cars and she's Gary stuff. I don't know

Dangerous territory were plain in here, while you, asked earlier how to fight back credit. No, it could actually be argued that the movie men in black and the subsequent sequels actually serve against the interests of the real men and black as the movies portray them as a lovable organization. Protecting humanity complete with like acute song, again. I think if you wanted to it really far, and this my own thinking here would mean up, of course, influenced by the invisible. If you believe that some movies are made proper this other than money, but some movies are in essence magic rituals. Then it could be. Men and black was actually made to combat the evil. Torpor in these accidentally, created by Albert Bender, also did make a lot of idea really dead, but

guys, and so can I actually then tell you it's ok, so I have actually been working on my Tommy Lee Jones Ambrosch. Oh, I know it now or guy can't. We use Brokeback mountain no living, it's not even an old person, we view you d think there. Let me their twenties. I think there are bill, do need clear You it's an impression, though, and so we're getting the. Men and black. They need fear the top theories. True, then, it's possible that the real men and black share more with Anchor Bell been Tommy Legion, courtiers, scalding reviews of the man in black market go in there, you go in there, but on the other hand, Albert Benders visions could have an explanation that is

firmly rooted in known science, epilepsy yeah You smell, weird shit, yeah, hallucinations migraines. All this could have been the result of a single of single partial seizures, also known as jacks me and epilepsy, and also I love this study. This was great market. I forgot about this, yet even the poltergeist activity mentioned could be linked to this, as it has been theorized The unique neurological make up in the brains of epileptics is firmly tied to r S. P, K, recurrent spontaneous psychokinesis. Ok, there's something about the way their neurons fire that could tap into some sort of telling kinetic activity, so does it make it less? real, or is it still or a real phenomena it put, it is always. This is always the question castle nets like this is a part of what worked. What we're talking about here is that is purse option. Then reality like: does it becomes

like us are also part of it is our role is every single thing that we now view in the parent? umbrella. Is it just science, yet the be discovered young? Even the trip to an article by our bend could have just been a hidden. A gag waking dream hit, Magog being the state between wakefulness and sleep. You know these two types dreams like when you're about to go to sleep and suddenly you feel like you're fallen right. Are you like? Have one of those dreams of the dream is set like halfway between your bed? room in your imagination. Right, oh yeah, it's like I woke up last night from a dead sleep, we're imaginative water bottle squeeze between my legs and I was piss and while I was like shootin water all over the sidewalk, and I will really have an EPA there you go. I actually had one of these a while. We were researching this. I had a dream that me in Henry or interrogate a man in black in my bedroom, with curly

does sleeping right next to us are. I was an hogging state myself, there is sweet, but perhaps most telling is what happened to our bender in the MID fifties. That was when Albert Bender met his future wife. Betty than you were married pretty soon after that and from that point forward. As far as we know, there were no more visitation from the men in black. While she too, there are many. She put a stop to it see just started. Having sex with itself is a part of his fantasy, and only we think we got two was amused argument when he went to Antarctica is that he was also surrounded by three giant breasted graze that were rubbing lotion all over his skin injurious. Hypochondria got very a graphic and it was there, and so now, once he's got his wife doing the lotion rubbing, then he doesn't need

think about aliens all the tunnel, which I think is a cop out, because I have used ending that I can think of when node is an alien expert or someone knows by lamentably Amerika about love in Re Yakima, California managed a hotel for the rest of his life and died happily at the age of ninety four. Now all I know is that, while my fee on Say- and I are odd, as deepened all than the alien scenarios to human beings could be together and it provides a shoot. Need to find someone. It's not can deny the best part of you and also because it makes it all steamy in that I don't know. If you really regret at not being able to be haunted by the man in Black any longer. I think she might save him think he was very happy to be to put all that behind him. I rather think of it off my will never put down my sordid she'll against the alien menace importer. This I do so. These are just some theory, yes about what the men and like our we're just scratching.

Now, the next episode we got more man. Oh, we got the men Della fellow. We got time cops, we had them pyres and we get the great beasts. Six six six himself, Lester, cruelly. Why are we gonna run? Also learn going Runagate yeah. So he's just a little bit. Man we're just stick and our fuckin toe, and I hope that that you guys are ready for this next little leap, because one one of my favorite things about this topic is about how deep balls it goes well you all of it. There just stir in that car around that big old lump of sauce man. Oh It is nothing it's a creepy, creepy subject, to say the least. I can't wait to delve deeper into oh yeah, oh my goodness alive now, my favorite part of still become very good

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