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my brain is: like hey, hey, let's think about this. We got bills bay. We got subdue the daddy, you might bring Is this like? I don't give a shit any more. I want to see what this is. My house, I should be to see. What's vine every door, my house S, you just the liberation of what it would be like to open all those doors and just what it's like to just go like, I think, you're right about one thing. Having a stream. Mental disorders does make you go crazy. I don't know of elaborates you. It seems like its own form of present. Apparently I know it's a bummer its lips, it it's a big bomber nights. Gigantic bummer been you hit the nail on the head and I commend you for at world level. As far as the little after, what I bet staring at bark is I as well as headway browse gay, the person who wants to go

easy, but Henry I got good news warrior. You're all not I I know I know that have been told by my family. I've been told by medical professional say I am I'm at. Had we describe how many therapists have you gone through now again these are people that you pay to speak with, and some of them just the money, isn't even a nerve to talk to you. You say gone through, I say: grew two big form to a big hit. Em you handle and they did not have the strength Do you realize the entire situation wrong, and I gather mean three of them yet I didn't wear Amalia yielded. No tony soprano was a killer. No he's not above a fictional. They are both equally, although there is real, tony Sopranos other they have sex with there they are a piss and you managed to just make them so trauma.

Eyes they need to go to therapy. I guess that's the circle of men, Oh Hell Financial said I'm helping them pay it forward back into the psychological health industry, making them have to hire better therapist them service. I think that I absolutely wonderful. Guy have been described as our Determine Molen has been described as nutty as a tree for many people, will do his episode. We ve got some comments or blood the gods. Well, this episode is going to be, for I think it is coming from El Jake us all and then Annesley really concerns Middle Jerry cited out. Of course, the dog I'm taking care of. We had no power in the house. The entire city block went out last night, Jerry freaked out, for some reason, he said to be comfortable. I'm going, be a scarf around Ben's neck and will not let him sleep, is a very, very bad. So today's subject

a fella extremely under the right are, we are gonna, get into some woogie spooky do stuff. It's gotta be bloody, just disgusting things and hopefully you're all their operating here, I'm out. So and you about Herbert Merlin. Of course Herbert- is my grandfather's. And if I ever of a child, I made a name Herbert because in high school he can be big. Greenland Herbert Marlon was, Mass, murdering serial killer, who terrifies Santa Cruz California for four months early seventies, murdering thirteen people of wildly varying backgrounds and ages in a frenzy that could be compared to the slasher killers of fiction. I would compare him too. Jason Voorhees to a up Joe Span, I'll from Maniac yeah old school, very, very

dangerous, highly unhinged, but there's a there's kind of an added shoulda sauce to Herbert Mall in which is why we ve been, who did him in our summer of strain these theories, because this guy is, I mean I'm just going to go on. You really thought outside of the box. I love you know, that's how we got the Gore Data, so it can be used. For good, but Herbert Molin did not kill for sexual gratification, like most killers. Do instead, Molin killed thirteen people because he claimed that the voices in his head commanded him to do so in order to prevent a larger, more heinous catastrophe he's a true missionary killer. He really did believe the item mission. Ah, he was try, to save all of California, and instead of like uprooting, the pedal Community rights deeply embedded in show business. Yet, when heeds instead did was just murderer bunch,

but it's interesting or mark is it's interesting in you say he didn't kill for sexual gratification. It makes me think he took one of those Edi pills. Perhaps which is locked with Michelle, and he had a boner for like four hours and the only way to get rid of it wants to murder. Someone will find out, what's known as not very amazing, we're talking about a dozen of the northern. How is not a good thing and how it actually makes your wiener her after while which is the opposite of what we are trying to do here. I never what my dick to her, no absolutely no with a ferocity that rivalled Richard Chase and gets a frantic missionary zeal that far overtook. That of Joseph calendar. Molin murdered because he believed he been made privy to one of the biggest secrets of the universe. It was his belief that the only thing keeping the earth from being torn apart by constant and deadly natural disaster was murdered.

No they're, ok, again sceptics at what right, I'm serious! You want a believer that may do do this. We're gonna get outta. This being was a couple like there's a couple of comments. Were harbours like you see, It doesn't come on. That's amazing mark is so you said he was more schizophrenia, thing calendar and care Roger had a make believe friend named Charlie, yet which really that he was the craziest person we ve covered until this point when you think about it that he was crazier than calendar. It's that he believed in his purpose. More than calendar he's like calendar of calendar, was highly motivated and by killing the citizens of Santa Cruz, her Molin believe that he was saving whole of California, from a devastating earthquake of biblical proportions and I'm acts,

I am also privy to a huge secret, and this is big, and I want to tell people this right now. You can learn this written beyond the. I got told this A toaster, my home in my young players, training in Europe in my it's ok, just a bigger, more expensive, tells the other big secret. He's gonna, make sure you Oh sure, graphic, tease inside out and on the line up, because, if not, they shrink in a lot of time, because now the doing the narrow cuts Debbie Fashionable, I make it I'm super long, but it just makes you look like somebody like me just makes you look like this. They pop marshmallow and for your body is just spray painted black? I have complete. We understand with you. I don't know why the words fit like a tent are not more common and shirts sales, because I wanted to fit liking for content, will the whole earthquake thing. That was Herbert story. There is no doubt that heard Molin was deeply schizophrenia

but he like all serial killers, murdered and kept murdering because he was satisfied with the end result: look Herbie, he likes it. You know what it is to be truly was the Yorkshire Ripper, whom up on the fly. His like voices of God told me what to do. He had full on audio visual hallucinations, where he saw this shit and heard voices outside of his own head right. He heard em like they were talking in a room that bit basically tone the new their shit and he really believe you scared and upset and in pain, and the only thing that relieved it was mere there now Iraq isn't that, just just I know its gross, but it's just form of self medication. Well, you know, what's so interesting is that I always get in lamed Verbenas, contrary and but if this,

man had a little bit more of a contrary, a nature when all these voices were like kill, kill, he'd like well what's the point of. Maybe some lives could have been saved. Beer devils advocate what, if I don't kill, This would be a nice time for him to a beta devils ethic. Are you saying Molen should of well actually the Falcon voices in his head. Can you actually just annoying the voices to the point where they stop that it doesn't work like that now. Absolutely not. One thing is that the vast majority of schizophrenia are not dangerous and they don't act on the com and given to them by their delusions. In fact, most gets. A frantic spend their lives in a state of hers. Pain and anguish, that comes from fighting solicitations, humble brag, Marcus humble brag by MR argues, the frantic. Now I was actually going to make the words I was actually gonna make the arab candle

the Asian hears, that schizophrenia hear. Voices like someone is standing next to them and talking that's how rich it sounds set up somewhere like me, don't I know it's just me. I know it's only. My own voice is telling me that the fuckin strangers read my mind everywhere outside of the subway car, because for some reason the subway car protects. My can brainwaves from being read. I know that's. Telling me that eggs favorites Elsa telling them that, some Carolina right now to get the just get this pop ip is another one years that this type of text g, T and everybody they just just no then go, then we need the new digital subway. Delusion was many years ago. I'm over it. I got past it grace who, in the vote,

his began telling Herbert moment kill. He gave relatively little resistance and he leaned in instead of getting treatment. He found justification sometimes arguing with his hallucinations and tell they gave him a victim that he was comfortable killing it, but it's really strange, but how he was of truly truly sick, yap, like Joseph Counter, very, very sick, highly delusional in a lot of pain. But it is interesting that they still have the wherewithal, as will see to plan and secure, fairly complicated murders and then evidence eradication deep within on psychosis because in mind here

you have the missionary zeal where he thought that he was in vulnerable to being caught. It was sort of the opposite. He felt tat. He was a vigilante for God where he is going to be doing these actions and he has to make sure to not be caught, because if not, he is just desperate your afraid of the earth cracking open underneath LOS Angeles and swallowing at home, which actually sound like an improved yeah Report of what makes the Herbert Molin Story Special is not why he killed but rather the environment in which she was killing at this, in time and in the same town that herb killed. Thirteen people bumble, but Ed Camper was also active, and they would in a being roommates in jail. They literally would Beastie whirl put side by side to it.

Which will cover next episode, but their Santa Cruz was jacked up during this time. Beer in Santa Cruz, of course, is one of the best vacation places to go in the country. Now, apparently back, then it wasn't so safe. Can you imagine in a sally to bumble, but Camper, Where do go. You would just in Oslo to be like you. Can you move your, but somehow cover all that next week, just the dumps that Ed Camper, taken as a sign of what seven man myself, because I think is crystal you're. Six would have a man, but you don't have a big, well waggling Now you have a weird kind of almost narrow, but- and I imagine your poops actually probably come out like Morlocks

bladder say: do like shocked spray. I didn't know we don't let that amount is gigantic. Spluttering, destructive, beast, ok, Bessie notary. We have to talk about each other's stools because more diseases, they don't come out at all. I tell you: what did I took a solid dump that looked guy? I'm not I'm not Josh around here. It'll, just like pair, dick and balls lumber and one big long when in the middle- and I was so happy while then, who is like Maybe this really is becoming a fundamental issue. Re use shad out a cock. The Henry is U story or by the time. Molin and his spree in Santa Cruz, Ed Camper had already killed in decapitated three coeds in the same town in recent months and when more body showed up investigators had no idea how many murderers they had or why they were murdering so many people,

no leads at all in either case, and these killings were coming on. The heels of a brutal family annihilation. The head occur. In Santa Cruz at the beginning of the decade, Jesus this. Isn't my in Santa Cruz was not a high crime rate town? It's not like it was. There was awful ship pop off over. There were just these awful brutal Ciro killings and mass murders just happening just pop up. This was like the sleepiness lit tat right, it was really sleepy and you will learn for too much about it. If you read the dye song by Donald want, if you get it will get, it will cover it, but it's just because a constantly talks about Santa Cruz, every true crime book that came out in that mid eighties always starts with eight. A biogas Africa, topographical, discussion of the town. The crimes have added primarily unnecessarily those roaring shit in the face of the planet and you're. Just like get to unreasonable about zero killer. I dont

know about the natural tributaries. Let me say, international arms, an ideal shimmering destination of legitimate pirates or in the eighteen. Six. These I don't care about me. I don't care how long it took the trains to get to Santa Cruz will dubious I didn't have to suffer through all of that, but I do understand why that makes the story that much more horrific it's any USA, it's a beautiful place when you hear about vial, in places that are maybe a little bit more like when you hear about violence in Philadelphia like like calendar, it doesn't have the same patent got punch. Then, when you never about it in a place where it's like true families are vacationing, everything is nice and it's like, but there's too killers on the loose and believe it or not one. Huge ass, you have done not as a police officer legitimate little well, I believe I am slid and here and he used to like J Walker,

said my own drunks and then you find decapitated woman's head. It's just been raped by six foot. Seven. These man ended thirty of just at all. This open got respite lop back fourth and just going not going got, I gotta tell those shattered with PTSD for the rest of his life. Meanwhile, the biggest cry before with some- kid in town named Elbert who used to suck, although Jellia the jelly doughnuts with a straw, and they finally arrested him, and then there like, and now we got people fuck, corpse as this is where it began. This is what is called a happy movement concerning the crime sort of kicked all this off on October? Ninety, nineteen, seventy another schizophrenia Named John Linley Frazier broke into the home of optometrist, Victor Oda and tied up the doktor along with his family and his secretary once they were,

strain, Frazier, shot them one by one and dump the bodies in backyard swimming pool before Setting the house on by your oh. This is one of my. This is one of my true nightmares. He was casing the house for they say weeks. He lived in a shack was a normal do that left his wife and family. He put together ramshackle shack at the base of this birth. Like a land where every was living watch them broke, went into broke into the house when no one was home, waited to each person came home. Who tight shot him in the head and then file a I mean its worst nightmare gap in the face of a planet. And as a way of explaining it, he left a note under the windshield of doktor odors rolls Royce, which read as follows: Halloween, one thousand nine hundred and seventy. Today, world war, three will begin as brought to you by the people of the free universe.

From this day forward, anyone and end, or everyone or company of persons who misuse the natural environment or same will suffer the penalty of death by the people of the three universe. I and my comrades from this day board will fight until death or freedom against anyone who It's not support natural life on this planet, materialism must die, or man I will stop night of what now two cups knighted tentacles now two sorts la but didn't the guy just kill a bunch of people. I suppose I suppose that argument could be made I don't know exactly why he decided that the odors were destroying the environment or if this was something that he was just doing to bring attention to his cause. But on the other hand here schizophrenia. So not everything that he did made a lot sets oh yeah

don't get. Everybody looked like to Kansas. Am him he was just kill and people at the key just. He said he had a whole army, yet a lotta plants. Naturally the actions of John Frazier S, temper and Herbert Molen at all. The question as to what exactly was in the water in the early seventys in Santa Cruz. Soon, but perhaps a better question is not was happening in Santa Cruz, but rather well happening in America? See it's sort of inside to think that a man like Herbert Mullin who killed thirteen people in four months would be one of the lesser known killers of the seventies could be that stories of schizophrenia are difficult to relate to and they make people uncomfortable because, after all,

part of our people. Love zero killer stories, at least in my opinion, is because they're trying to relate to the killers in an attempt to understand them and most people can relate to escape the frantic, and nowadays, where we can see, is that I think, at this time period schizophrenia much maligned, they thought the the kind of naturally assume dude become dangerous person. If you had it right now a days. We know that that is not the same. A of having schizophrenia does not meet. You dangerous doesn't make you too, but it's weird that it took this dark. Especially during this time period, when more and more people that work suffering from mental illness, we're just going fuck it dark because weak. I got schizophrenia on the street. You don't urine report and biscuits operatic. You could plugin run Cbs be scared to product. We don't know because a lot of time and is open, someone has a delusion that just like you should go to come.

Cover not dormitories like that's all. I want just one person with an encouraging schizophrenia. Hallucinate will I I know a lot about wrestling and a lot about politics, but I don't really know a lot about mental health. Is it possible to just turn the voices into your own whack have fun with you. Do one voice. He knows how to fork on command and it's a many times they had great. Can u turn em into like fun? Loving? Eric terse and then you're the Howard Stern of ages. I tell you: do they have personalities that are so baked in yeah that you can't change were round to make him thought you cannot control them in any way whatsoever. Think about how hard mark gave a chap and headed negotiate with the little people it is my advice budget have suffered. I got it. I think a bigger reason that there were so many serial killers throughout the seventies and eighties that there wasn't enough

oxygen in the room to extensively cover every single one and as far as why where so many serial killers, then, and, conversely, why there aren't, We were near as many now. I think it's time we return to the lead theory. Get out get out every Friday from forty six, because we're only allowed to play the same seven songs, because clear gentle whirlwind radio get the get the word out and actually get the letter. The schools in New York and in LOS Angeles, if you could give let out of the pay into the public housing. That would also be great. Get them the pipes and flemish again, and I'm allowed to go into exactly why we all need to do that as fast as we humanly fucking can now. We ve talked about the lead theory before, but I think the Herbert Molin CASE, and Typically, Santa Cruz in the early seventies bear

another look at this hypothesis, particularly because there seems to be no other explanation as to why this happened. Now the hypothesis behind the lead theory- is that a high exposure to lead degrades the brains of choice Dron during their development in ways that increase aggression and reduce impulse control and back in the fifties and Sixtys Americans were exe. Boast to insane amounts of lead through the ungodly amount of did Gasolene that was being pumped into the atmosphere twenty four hours a day, not to mention, although pipes, delivering drinking water and lead paint covering every home inside now. So this is Super interesting phenomenon markets because I didn't even realize unleaded gasoline means that at some point there was gasoline. I've never even put that too. I guess not wanting to have a longer led was in the air yeah everywhere

everyone everywhere in America was breathing led into their lungs. At all times, more led Americans were exposed to the higher crime rose in the eight years between nineteen before nineteen. Seventy two, the murder in America. Shot up, eighty five percent and the overall crime rate doubled this trend Tenue decline throughout the seventies and eighties, and why so the murders were one offs. So here in New York, those decades also produced us a growing number of zero killers. Listen to able to come up with just at the top of my head tab, Joint Gacy Data, Berkowitz, richer chase, richer mirrors, Dennis Rate or General Jeffrey Dahmer, the hillside, Strangler Lawrence, Better Ed Camper littered, like controls, ink and Herbert Molin. That's off the top, my fuckin hat and don't forget Robert Mcnamara, Richard Nixon. There were more than those who are everywhere Marcus. This has been such a wonderful day

Thank you so much for the I love these bread. Six and the fact that the soup is unlimited is one right now, I am describing, might the third day The carolina when we went in to like what our particular opinions on David Parker Rate, where hey I'm the waiter here at all of garden. So did you still want that soup? It's cold enough, for you said that you only want killed. I didn't leave those have had like two balls and due to total platters of bread stakes, so geyser cut a freak, Soupley's, more soup and more breadsticks. Whatever is want the soup cold still or did most of time. People have, please let it sit and then bring it. Yes, please, yes, Marcus now tell me again when he cut off her breath what did do with them. Now I just, however, this trend of crime steadily rising twin the sixties, the seventies and eighties. It peaked

ninety ninety one, coincidentally the same year, the Jeffrey Dahmer was captured. Not Coincidentally, this drop came twenty years after we began reducing the lead content in gas lean. So, basically, a generation went past new generation without as much lead in multiple generous bore the babe, our generation gap, the our generation is fine. The baby boomers balked all full a lead there full of lead, poisoning our environment I led environments knots. Why would now we're seeing be pictures of pigs sweaty? red face screaming women screaming at people on the street and they come out of a Cassio, maybe over sixty five with those pictures of the back. Their pick ups words that debate assault rifle like the two biggest all rifles and three little us all rifles mimicking the pictures of a family and she's gone

Tell me this over and over again. You think that that might have something to do with lead, poisoning aggression, one thing that it causes a cause is short: sightedness causes very little impulse control. These are banks that I think disk certain people in our society. Ah yeah it does. It describes the funds people in our society, because those are those make very great weekend. I saw a video of a woman. Again, about my mom's age, having a full on third good three year old, baby tantrum, but that are going yeah. I got and I was like, I feel, like there's some kind of gap, something that needs to be a direct well out between that women. This what gap day? There's my grandfather's name- was Herbert and my grandmother Lillian, who are related to very well. She is now deceased, but she

to always say how she loved the smell of gasoline. Yes, she D some anger issues, but that's cause. She was the only liberal in North Dakota and that'll make you go nuts, but I bonded with over the smell of gasoline, and I would hope it with her kind of outside of the quick trip. Didn't all types of family ups, lots a couple of small spikes here and there the crime rate has continued to drop nationwide for decades. We are still Europe still going down. Might say the correlation does not necessarily mean causation and you might to say that the real solution in the nineties was increased, policing and improved investigative tactics, not the investigative tools like by cap and psychological profiling. They certainly contributed to the drop in serial killers, but as far as all

Increased policing bullshit goes. The lead. Theory applies right here in New York City by the early Ninetys New York's. He had been the murder capital of America for decades, and the accepted narrative is Rudy Giuliani and Police Commissioner Bill Bratton terms. Sitting around through broken windows, policing, essentially broken windows. Policing is the theory that if you aggressively arrest, prosecute and imprison, people for even the smallest infractions than larger crimes will cease. Its trick its trickled down policing yet Lagoon Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea. Always works is great and for years people have believed that it worked because New York City is, after all, one of the safest large cities in the entire world. Today, probably that assumption

How is that? The murder and violent crime rates in New York City began following two years before Giuliani even took office and installed brow in nineteen. Ninety four, why so remember when I first when I first move back to New York and two thousand six, and I told my dad that we were performing in Times square member him saying don't, could stand by a hooker like the with owned by the Disney each in another argument that this just the end of the crack epidemic in New York City and that's why crime fell, but that doesn't explain why crime and murder began to fall nation wide in the early nineties or why much smaller violent acts like schoolyard fist fights also greatly dropped at the same time. Nor does it explain why this is a trend worldwide that has been.

Proved over and over again bans. Unleaded gasoline correlated two drops and murder rate in both Japan and Jamaica. Twenty years after birth, Were instituted just isn't it, it here and in a bit of good news. Experts on the phenomena predict that the same thing, will begin to happen in the Middle EAST this year, because they finally and let it gasoline at the beginning of this century are they trying to you literally to dip, they basically blame ISIS on LAD, yes, interest. Allied, there's a lot of things I may add and lighted the link. I know it's a fucking massive buys indeed thousands of years of history. All wrapped up in one put. The lead is just what we're talking about theory even goes back to civilization. Two thousand of years old, some hypothesized that the fall of the Roman empire coincided with the increase in the use of lead pipes in roman plumbing, which resulted

in a less intelligent, more aggressive population. They ramp up their use of violet sports, said entertainment, Their society fell apart from the inside, like the whole thing, just kind of fell apart and fell to barbarians. So, but who knows who book? If you read books by Like Angela cartoons up a big certain barbarians idea of society could be very interesting, little more cutthroat level, lead lowers love, one mark, as I do I have to say, though, I think you're not giving ed caught enough respect com what am I doing. He did Bilbil. He built a lot of apartments and things like that which which also was good, but then, of course, he did start got in times square as well. But you know there are some good stuff is what I'm not saying that lead is the only reason why things got better. The only reason why things got bad, I mean there are, of course, other factors, but it accelerates it in

does it accelerates things, and it just makes it that much worse yet, in other words, lead poisoning just might be one of the sea keys to understanding just how much environmental factors affect humanity. In ways both small, an extra ordinarily, large and always will not by me as far as why mass shootings have replaced zero killings in the last two decades mean. I think that maybe we should look at the right of another society, wide brain warping force, namely the internet and specifically social media by that that's per far more intelligent people, the media explored in many o games. I really think you do it. It's all that good tar, music, it's your endeavours, Qatar, music and somebody's video games. I just saw my son plain this. One game already plays guitar innovating,

games. Call you when I saw the first thing out. I saw your son. Do it at the first thing we both did. Is we took him out back? We were moved every year is called radium with and we beat him with hangers Yard produce LEO how much we eighty Qatar and aid electronic news recently, a group of internet utopian, as too said back in the nineties, that the internet was gonna change the world for the better. Together and said, I'm so we're sorry. We made stake? We do not make us. This is it. This is. The human brain can handle the internet, we're still fuckin were built for which is our brain, is built privileges we can handle global connection, but that's for smarter people than me to decide. I'm not always felt that I was built for the stage yes. Indeed, maneuver, what's happening now. Santa Cruz, California took a big old bite.

The lead poisoning same which, in the early seventies, for some reason and the results were Germany, Frazier, Edmund Camper and especially Herbert Mullen are sources for this These are deadly voices by Seal Sweeney and the dye song by Donald Lund in Jefferson, Morgan and while the dye song is good classic mid eighties through crime, deadly voices seems to benefit more from the passage of time. Much more recent yet got level. Search in there and they got a born to kill and Herbert Molin, which is my favorite thrive on one, and you know the book as from the mid eighties, because in the middle there's a centerfold of a chicken bikini right outside of a core vat jeez one word of it like, oh, my god. What? If that was my wife and when you look at your wife here like that's, not my wife will look in the background. You see Herbert Molin with a knife and he's watching her behind one of the big squiggly dancing thing within half a million of those new tech that now, like schizophrenia, serial killer, richer chase.

Whom you can read more about extensively in our recent book. The last book on the laughter band I ever books are all knights, herb, Molin had no specific childhood trauma to speak up, or at least as far as we know, fact Herbert Molen, with seemingly the all american boy with the father who was maybe a little too strict but overall pretty, for the times and Molin was actually voted most likely to seed, his senior year of high school, but a few fold over the page. It was actually folded over. It is actually most likely to succeed and murdering thirteen Why are you always want to take a look at the full sentence later, though, when her boys in the throes of schizophrenia, he would claim that his parents were actively in. Of an quote retarding. His social and sexual awareness end quote keeping the secrets of orgasms from her until he was fifteen because her leave that everyone else was enjoying orgasms starting at the age of six

ok, honey. Only very said, the only person to have a full wrote it on purpose orgasm at the age of six. Was John F can hold out a second, so he is upset that his parents did not go into great detail about what an orgasm is. That is all about. Nightmare. Is our hair sitting us down to be like when I'm says when mom so like she's laughing in the bedroom It's not Lapierre, like a joke, its lateral, like I'm twiddling, her being just right bedroom. It's like one. What fifteen year old boys like mom, never explained how we're orgasms worked in dead, never told me other shoe, still asking you know when you go to the soda machine. That pharmacy, guess, you're sort of pop and you press the lever. No, the big viscous brown liquid filled with bubbles pause and paused? I do their work.

What's it even that they didn't tell em about orgasms, it's that they didn't tell him how to have orgasms, because that is when he was the throes of schizophrenia. He thought that every first Greater was just walk around, have an orgasms all the time you got well, maybe maybe sex education would have helped, but I also think that that man want something that he doesn't actually know he doesn't want, which is in great detail about the wood org as humanitarian comforter. If an element, the school level sex at class was telling everyone how to play the collective there's a harder really, I feel like it. It might be good in a lease talk about that. The clearest put until you- I guess you gotta, wait till you fifty I dont know I would say freshman year in tallish, you can take a class just on pleasure in the collective reality thou, but the

thing that could be considered traumatize and was the fact that harms mother was an extremely religious catholic which certainly had a. Wearing on her acceptance of his own bisexuality, They reminded me quite a bit of like Tom Greens, parents, ah Yapped during this, when he s printing, his parents. They are both well meaning conservative people that every single time Herbert curb roll back in crazier than ever, they will just go I just thought I don't know. I don't know what to do with Europe and that's the only thing they could say. While he's think about how penises is with devils and it's like he is just I just wish. We could

sit down, have a cool aid. Just talk about this. Normally I'd seems like his parents were not prepared to have a child like Mister Herbert Molin. Oh, no, not bisexuality or heard sphere of it might have something to do with what many believe was the cause of his first mental break so I'll play in high school football. Her became extremely close with Boy named dean, Richard said, Alice could have been a hobby level friendship. Here I mean I will not read. Europe includes too. Three kisses among every once in a while non do, but it could also be that he was in love with Dean Richardson, because the way Herbert Molin acted too Dean's untimely death the same way. One might react to the death of a lover she this summer. After

two graduated high school in nineteen, sixty five dean flipped his car and was killed in the crash, miss absolutely destroyed Molen and the death fine with the struggles he was having with his own sexuality, triggered his schizophrenia like right now, kind of like a born, dark version of a dead man's curve store you never hear them, others are rarely does sports sports or a little gay right now, it's Europe there your test soap and each other up snap of the Taos at each other, saying good game spanking, each other every looked Jochen in Japan. Josh annually in a way about the size of everybody's penises, which means everybody's look and gravity, scanning is all the huddled. The huddled sir, very sensual in a way, a gross misunderstanding of the majority of sport. But yet I remembered sport being just very european.

An almost in a way where everybody sniffing each others, but I know that we are very happy that its very roman Henry, our time was very revealing. Let's yes, but then you you lose him. You lose your closest tied end right. You and him have been. I don't know what you're in plain hopscotch. You guys get wet and what you do in sports. That makes you super close at an hope. You guys are both like you have like wink codes worthy mother and all it can to should. Then he flipped his car, and then you hear that who am I for me. Would then your haven't a pocket full Kristen Stewart level melt down side of your apartment? That's pocket! Sweet move that. Yes, we movie sweet song. Do you think that without this something else would have triggered his mental no- I mean- or is this one of those things that was so catastrophic at such

young age, where his brain was just like. I think we're closed to connect in these do sit as well together, oh shit up and they just like with, went the other way. I don't, I mean schizophrenia, usually kicks in around this age. You know a kicks in late, teens, early twin, yes- and I really Don't know enough about schizophrenia too, to really tell you if there is like that almost point where I say: if it wanted, I think schizophrenia. One sits there like something's like to gonna, bring it out some satins gonna make it happen It's a chemical thing so right, chemicals are, chemicals, are going up eventually weathers, bigger small something's, gonna fuck it up. If it wouldn't happen when he was eighteen, it would happen. And when he was twenty two short, we should do a mental health March movement called its camp

Thank you wouldn't understand the insurers that must be worn without ads. You were not yours and you can get it and for some reason, there's an arrow on the back of the shirt pointing to there, but you wouldn't Edward you will at the same time, the herd schizophrenia kicked in Molin also said that he began to feel the first urges to kill. This also coincided with Herbert's lifelong habit of trying to find someone or something to blame for everything. Bad. That's ever happened in the case of dean's death, her blamed his parents because they had refused to let the boys lived together in a cabin in the summer after they graduated and her believe that have they living together. Dean would still be alive, so it's mom and dad small I've tried

I want to tell you they occasion with my best friend at, but I tell you what, if you just, let me I wouldn't kissed him too much for him to drive tallies. Do I think they could have been fine. Flip in his car, that good about sixty nine, they could have had a good time. I don't of Dean was gay or not, but theoretically, if he he may have been a variety along with her that could have been a cute as couple. We will see that he is at least bisexual here, and here this is a thing that he will struggle with its one of those were the very beginning it heated. No, that was like him going crazy, the feelings that he was having but all it just got all fucked up I mean what they could have had a great organic soup. Restaurant dean and herbs willingness in the queue coupled with America coupled aim, but this blame game

would be a running theme and herbs life course blaming his parents for Dean's, death and schizophrenia. Brain would visually, led him to believe that his parents had also created his murderous urges through the power of telepathy, the dye song, which will get you next episode Interest Bay, the way after Dean's death, the voices began and heard started. Building intricate shrines to his dead friend in his bed room composed of pictures of dean and trinkets, relating to their friendship, all on the command of the voices. Look, I found one of his. Cubes, I hope it is movement but want to put that in the next to the picture of him. During that touchdown that he was so proud of that yeah and when I didn't do that, those little and all here and I put his little funding,

Jack autumn looks just like him, and then I put, I could put the pew down put little mustache tragic death also lead to her breaking up with his high school sweetheart, Laura telling her tat. He was gay had always known. He was gay and was just now coming to grips with that following the death of his closest friend, I've gay, you do it today about what you may have heard me Van day. Have a look at it, you I'm sorry, but despite his worsening mental state Ruin figured her but just gone through a thing. Dean diet is going through a thing here, on the other, and eventually I always end that when you lose a great friend, you turn gave her about six months and then you come. I mean that if there is a natural, that's like that's the eighth step and grief that we never talk about now. I was honestly because I knew this cause after Barb are good,

friend can be passed on and you sent me that picture of Europe or wrecked penis bad effect on it. This was just a thing to Jack. That's right! I, the little known fact. Yes, after a cabin Barnett, passed away from round table of gentlemen, Henry Marcus Diet, sexually. Other, and it was this. Is he what would happen just to see just yeah yeah falling a bunch of birds having sex with each other servants? Just absolute, absolutely wonderful, We did honestly think about how chill his parents are key has come out. This is nineteen sixty five, it's really really intense they're trying to give room for his grief his, but his grief Came out in a way that they really work, they had they weren't expecting because they went. I spectacles, for him till he came out and then these intricate trying was building inside of his childhood home. Like you, go in and looks like what you'd imagine

I give. You were to have a somewhat set deck, a bed room of a friggin of somebody which gets of running up there on a look like look like what's his name from Apron DORA, think line horn. The horses Finkel re thinking look like his bedroom, while after high school Herman enrolled at Caprice College there He ran into a friend of Dean's named Jim Gian era, could eventually become one of Herbert victims. Years later back in college, though Jim was just the guy who introduce her to weed and after marijuana, Harb started doing asset, which is just about the worst drug, a potentially violent schizophrenia could take, and it also happen to be Hobbs, favorite drug from then on. That's what I'm talking about big smoking, we take

the acid. That's the thing with the near my curb now I understand he becomes you're going to kill my name her until now track. You gotta be taken some ass at every now and again smoke tat, sweet, her big Herbert herb. It's gonna be great, but if your kid is not cool than his name is Herbert forever, and then it can be back in it would be fine. Had he not been schizophrenia. I asked the problem. Small amount of acid? Who was a kid? Ghana amount of acid one of his friends that he did ten hits in one setting. He went over to a party her hervis of my eye of Doubt five foot, seven little man, tiny beady eyes, mullet phone kind of kind of gradually like it looks like, The hunter awaited, maybe describe miss it. He looks like yours, third exercise but ok what he said.

This party, he took five tabs app. You took five tabs of acid, just ate it and they said that You said he like contemplating that sat and thought about it, like I'm willing to take five more. These then he took the rest of it and then he is like all that into his mouth like it was a piece of fuckin, a stick, acumen gum right and then he just played movies on the back of his eyelids. So far. No harm no harm. No foul the harm, ten people dead. No, I know I sense held up to his courtiers. Just call big herb wanted something down every now and again, I will daring his short time in college Herbie, personality, and to change. After all the acid he was doing in its interests gravitated towards eastern religions and the concept of reincarnation, which her thought was maybe a path to bringing dean back to earth in another form, BT could come back as a little mouse

Like you carry Miranda back all day, maybe he can come back as like a really really big mouse, so I could crawl up in I am even there all day, or maybe he be like a coil off. At the same time, though, her also reach back out to his high school girlfriend. Loretta Lynn, actually, I'm bisexual, not gay, and he eventually proposed tour Yoda Naomi affair. I got one foot one river bed. I got the other foot near the river bed it between my legs, a river alone. And all I want to do is be with you baby, I'm not that She said yes, but only the condition that he quit both weed and asked because, obviously hiring bad for him. It was very bad for him

I know I know the murders, as happened at this point. He hasn't deal that you look at these justly cohesion. It is at this point. It is very visibly bad for him here getting angrier, he is getting more violent. He is getting more. Delusion is visibly bad for him. Yes, he's not bathing he's too, out of control literally completely toppling out of couldn't you the words are used to describe them or things like unhinged physically violent. He he's predictable, is a lot more comfortable in a mirror c. O bear difficult to deal with the difficult to deal with, he didn't and he double down? He smoked more Weedin did more ass than ever. Adventure he did have his first homosexual sexual experience and broke up with Loretta. But she didn't really air because, as we said, he was very angry, very violent, very unpredictable, very unhappy.

Rig up there as a term in the dye that I can't handle. They keep saying all these hippies keeps in yeah. Would blow grass every once in a while. I could grants which I never heard before or since it's awful that's fucking I pointed out. I was there that from now on, political bluegrass, you just moved here is my photographs of typical Like aid you ever blow bubbles is again yes, yeah. You knew bubbles yet that at or herds thought processes also began to become more erratic in abstract as is evidenced by this letter he sent to his parents following a marijuana arrest in April of nineteen sixty eight Bell and Jane hey. As I am a mention of the past some day, I would meet the establishment

had on. I was arrested on April twenty first. Yes that day the game started the charges against me camping by the Sl River possession of paraphernalia use for smoking on narcotic and possession of a restricted this drug without a prescription. Yes, as I have tried to explain, I am a student recent thought, but because I was baptized, a roman Catholic, I have the gift of Christianity right. Both these philosophies agree that all things of the body and since in all states and activities of the mind, merely phenomena temporary playthings. We enjoy in my eyes and presently is innovative and a total sense self induce a necessary event in the bar. These waves, you remember the ocean, do you remember the ocean of a wave is the oath. In the ocean, is the wave your earthly son, her eyes, said the x.

That same thing to my parents. After my freshman year of college radio, there was no, I mean you went through in the shaky phase Henry we have came after freshman year My parents are like. Why are we wasting money? this. This is like without controls, are coming back all different and changed literally, I remember having a new year's eve where I was on so we must rooms? I had burned my shirt in bonfires. I was sure ATLAS freezing I my genes on no shirt right and bring about us or two. I I forgot. Oh God, com for, compare I was most wanted person years in and then I'm pretty certain. I said this exact speak. He wasn't so bad in his mind. Unfortunately it seemed like eat. He ended up tearing it though he did. I mean that's it it's, there is little hints here, and there and, like you know about a wave, is the ocean. The ocean is the wave man like this from over the ocean, like that. That makes sense, but its little things like that day, the guy

started right. He cap and put the game and all I slew here the Marvin he mire of Thee killed those or fame. He often talked about he's like I'm changing the playing field, rightly that quite a bit where you'd say stop like their plan. Tennis me, I'm a bowler, a bowler, comes to a tennis court like to say it weird shit. We're like this is: where did that? There is no game, because you would need some form of structure there. Like teams and set up and there's like, adds kind of baked in there, referees to keep you safe and equipment. So is this something where can now separate reality. If he, if it's just a game, it's not people dont really matter its again. Is that, like sort of the psychological approach, it's kind of the other side of it it's, game is becoming real. It's it's that he is starting to believe that not like you know that sort so like fun thought

merriment that mean Henry do as far as like magic goes magical thanking. Would you guys I'm on a bunch of paper we did for a while and hey look at where we are now body? I wouldn't onto my eyes irish, stop doing that, because it was just drawing everything. No, no. You should have seen the pilot com. I showed despotic, but all that stuff here, that we talk about with with me now, even like with stuff like jets talking mongoose right, he was starting to believe that all that shit was real. Ok, So after the marijuana arrest, herb abruptly announced, He was moving to India to study yoga full time, but instead ended. His sisters, trailer with her and her husband in Sebastopol, California, but while Herbert had been just a little off before

tat. He knew he was only notable honoured little ah, but you can deal with them. During this visit he began to show signs of full blown schizophrenia, one not dinner. Her began imitating his brother and laws. Every physical move exactly eating. When it would eat standing when he would stand and moving when he would move stuff. Helping me start talking outside happy, scarp copying me I recently say this, but is it possible that improv could have saved this man's life? however, our support, but we couldn't yell close- could have just yes ended man into sanity. Maybe this imitation went on for four hours straight and at the end of it hurts sat and stared off into nothingness. Let us behaviour

it has a name. It's called echo proxies the involuntary imitation of others, and it's a pretty good indicator of Sophronia, although it can also indicate turrets syndrome from herbs perspective, He believed that his brother in law was telepathic. Lee telling him to do all of these things and heard was just trying to make him happy only following orders is it possible to swing that in turn by just been like Gimme, a pack of smoke these, like whispered in his ear, to govern greater weight in some beers right now and make him kind of if you focused energy. What I'm saying who work? Could he be just a perfect servant? He knows that he knows the difference. Like. I was the difference between somebody talking and somebody speaking with him, telepathic late. As it does sound like somebody is just talking human, normal speaking voice, but he knows telepathic

he knows. His brother in law is not going to say: hey go by pack smokes and set as its very strange stuff. It's very strange. It's very scary, the these that think. These are the things that cause people that have schizophrenia to live in total fear because you believe you're reading into and symbolizing every year, creating essentially not drama but story. Every minute of your life. Kind of everything takes a deeper second meeting watching your brother and you think he's like giving you knowing looks you look directly at your brother's face and you hear a voice. It says copy me, do exactly that doing and you'll be safe and I are just gone awry. Do you understand understand why everybody also so mad cuz, you think you're doing something correct and that everybody else's in on it I mean honestly, he does sound like he's perma tripping yeah. It is based on this

bestowed Molin was convinced. Tat voluntarily commit himself to a state hospital in Mendocino. During this first stretch of six weeks, Harb spent most of his time talking about yoga and in his words, listening to cosmic emanations for guidance in nation of herbes condition. A doctor wrote schizophrenia, reaction, chronic undifferentiated type prognosis poor. Unfortunately, though, even though Mullen was prescribed Anti psychotic, sir, he didn't agree with the diagnosis of schizophrenia instead choosing to believe that he was on the verge. Of discovering the yogi secrets of the universe while also

leaving that all of us problems can be blamed on drugs. It seems that the schizophrenia caused him to not Bob leave that he had schizophrenia ride. It's very interesting so, instead of getting badly needed, treatment for schizophrenia, Harb checked himself out, back to his sisters, trailer in propositioned her for sex. Come. I love what's happening here and when she refused, he propositioned her husband. Can you imagine in a trailer all of a sudden. He passed through the doors like you, let's I share your view that has got to be poor of lime. Naturally, after the sex proposition, sister didn't want em around anymore, o didn't work out a now, so hurt move to Lake Tahoe with a friend and took a job. Washing dishes

at a restaurant called Harvey's wagon, we'll, whilst still refusing medication? Oh my god, you can just imagine getting like to cleaner This is the cleanest play. We have your at Harvey's wagon, we'll just covered in shit. Thumbprint unpredictably mine was back living with his parents two months later, while their herd commit his first near murderous act, although thankfully he was stopped before he was able to hurt anyone, while hiking heard got into an altercation with a forest. Stranger because herve was unprotected, land was both be there she's done their job protected? If, because of any or all right, you know my buddy Johnny's bad, or party we were in Minneapolis. We were camping, you're not supposed to drink in Minneapolis Campgrounds, which is absolutely in saying. We had a security officer we nicknamed and bad squash, because you is my super fat and there's something about picking on power

rangers that so ingrained in the american psyche. That I think it's really it's the least powerful power position that there is. They have no real ability to act. We are in force. Any of the rules are politically. Do you get deputizing for just squirrels, What can I do know that we have at least one for a stranger whose lesser the show- and I can just imagine them at that moment- gone powerful. You argue with the ranger repeatedly asked her what he was doing out there, but her refused to speak speaking to you, sir, and yes, I'm just- I said those words, but I am not speaking to you. I will not speak to you, I'm going to remain silent, I'm not going Are you were definitely talking to me? What are you doing out here? I'm not going to speak to you.

I don't I never speak. I know they were only believe in using my aunt. We hear you talking, though sir we're gonna have Paul. That's what he tried doing after the raiders, like what the you day again be out here, the Rangers Herbert reach for it a gigantic hunting knife and the ranger thinking quick unknown exactly where the scenario was headed, he subdued Molen before he could grab it and mom was released without charges. Now. Herbie still believed at this point that all of these problems could be blamed on drugs and while hallucinogens certainly don't help schizophrenia, they were not the cause of his illness, but because this belief he opted for a drug treatment programme. Dead of medication. I gotta go clean, I gotta be heard sober, which means I can you ass it in the mornings and

sometimes I have to do ass it at night. Just so that I could not sleep I get it herb Sober October. Will you he has at least he is seeking help. No in other stories that we ve talked with or talked about people with like article issues they they they don't necessarily seek help release. You try it. I guess the way he does it, though it's it's, not a foreigner ability, it's almost kind of like a fuck. You, you don't think I can fix my own fuckin brain yeah I'll fix my break the thing in the world. Are you going to tell me that I'm a lost cause, that's kind of like you going to do anything with his life because he's totally written with violence and I'll tell you I'll tell you when I can do, and he just bought that he could go to a drug program and just nip it. So it was aggressive YAP move to recap: ok, so without real treatment, Harb only

got worse and began burning his own penis with cigarettes because he claimed his penis was not only the source of his homosexuality but also where the voice in his head originated, but since burning his penis with cigarettes, to calm the voices he said he enjoyed it. Hey! Usually I want your your hand were about live nerve up. Revolve. You see balls, you see, I'm not broke out I'm told Cobble Little John heard above the servants cod, so you need a star Burma. Sir ourselves, her hobble, we ve got to stop We are glad to see that I mean we ve all heard the call is coming from within the house, But- and this is the call is coming from within the cock now bizarre stuff

also, while in the programme, her reconnected with a couple of friends her believe these men were a magician and guru, but since this was the early sixties, both friends rolled with it, this is work Improv is bad, encouraging Herbert delusions and increasing his belief in the magical, interconnectivity of the universe. He keeps getting this again this happened so many times over the next few years, where he'll come too somebody you'd like while you're really a magician? Aren't you, The girl go yeah yeah I'm here, it's better than being Lloyd. The auto guy up, but after just a month in the drug treatment programme, heard, drove to San Luis Obispo and spoke with the manager of a goodwill or her had briefly worked a couple of years earlier, while their herd told his form

boss, all about the voices in his head and all about the penis burning that he'd been Doin, decisive, catch up her for some reason think and that all the penis burning talk would make his former manager horny. He made sexual advances. Were roundly rejected. Hey listen, pay! When we go back to my hotel room, I call it a hotel room, but it's a barn. Then I just You could see the smiley face it put on their response secret Bertha. Yeah. What's on your mind, your cock era, yet my penis loaded with a color you're supposed to attract me. A high level manager at a good, well, yeah yeah, do turns out its you're lucky. Hey my friend, I love you man after I get over here, have been try getting advice from a man he called his uncle, but the guy wasn't his call. You have just some guy that her called uncle

trying the same hugging, kiss and technique herb was rejected again and the so called uncle right. Nice in what was going on here called the local sheriff and they put her on a seventy two hour hold it the Song Love should number nine was real. This is what would happen YAP, but then the person- reciprocate right, they would actually they would have the love potion. No, it's I believe you fall in love with everybody else. Is the actual meaning of the lyrics of love, potion number nine of, but they don't fall in love with. You know it's the itself. It makes its horny juice, while in the movie they fall in love with each other. I don't know it's just I don't know. I took my trouble. Madame Ruth, you know that Gypsy with the gold cap tooth he's gotta. Now this songs nonsense. Yet nonsense

they are doing an excellent job with a one off job markets, I'm actually really past. I'm really happens. You passed Henrys and psychological tests because if you got deeper, meaning That's all you need to and your medication all lucky for it, the two You are in the process of doing that anyway. Yeah paying about by a strike baby. All of us after the hold expired. A female Jim. Girl, saw her on the side of the road arguing with himself and exposed his penis to passers, by which got heard another hole that he argued was unnecessary because even think he was doing anything wrong. Not walk out to saint gotcha. Gotcha got scared. Sir I've. You see my penis yet a voice itself,

bill Cosby lives of it. Now I will call the anomaly of latin outcomes are, like anything, Bob Bob Bob Hog, you see a very thorough debate, as you have there, sir. After that heard, was finally committed again his condition of improved the first week after taking medication, but he soon backs lead and began writing letters, politicians and public figures explaining his religious beliefs completely. Leaving that they need to hear all about him. We get a lot of these yeah. I mean politician the people servants they deserve a politician, It should have to read once gets a frantic email away up after seven weeks now, Herbert's father signed the release papers after much pressuring from her by this was, of course, with the strong, on disapproval of the staff who wrote only

that moment, schizophrenia was in a word grave part of that prognosis came from the fact the voices in Mullins Head were getting louder and he was now believing that others were speaking to him. Telepathic easily invoice is so clear. He could not distinguish the hallucinations from reality after that MILAN attended a few group therapy sessions, but still refused medical. Sean opting instead to do yoga and take massive amounts of acid, while wandering the forests of Santa Cruz, eventually heard met a man named, add Lawrence at a cheap, motel and Ed brought her to the commune in Santa Cruz were add, was Levin, Herbie loved live in their love, the commune life, but the people at the immune, didn't love her. If I, if I'm the leader of this com, you and I'm just gonna tell add, two are tightened- the screw

little bit on his recruitment tactics like, but not everyone. You meet me com. This is it the thirty fishing we Looking at what he said, suck all your dicks, I got used to you. I said you wanted, somebody would suck your dicks right. I got no work as I have someone help me. If you want, I never asked for anybody suck everybody's dicks. I was trying to get somebody they can handle the septic issues that we need a lawyer, some people with skills around here. A lot of people here who just suck everybody's didn't. We also everybody's Dick Glade put about people like everybody's, did: ok her whom one instance her proposition japanese woman living in the house with the possibility of having a by racial. Be how they will combat Oda

are you approach of anyone and if we re way person out there and you see any non white person just be like you want to buy racial baby with make thirty five is a matter of fact just by racial dating up, it's just absolutely powerful and you have to do it. It's called farmers. Only the way this woman refused Herbie destroyed the house's fireplace with a hatchet jeez? It certainly get more violent oak. Eventually, the commune got rid of her by having one of their members convincing to move to Maui with her in one day after they arrived. She just left the island went back to California I spoke route or are they just like Why?

now that's what I do with my dogs when I don't want him to go outside and I walk them to the kitchen, and I like poor, some food and like we're gonna, hang out the kitchen and then I sprint to the front door, so they don't run outside all these empty bags. Empty said just pretty much so hard to move across an ocean, I'll get my we can forget the lays odd and she's it's like. I gotta go, get some Actually, I'm gonna go stairwell of these that our money pussy, you see if I can make your clear DEC on board, but obviously how like our passiveaggressive was this commune? I think that's why communes failed, because the real hath regressive could they just be like you, gotta go you gotta get out of here as opposed to this almost cartoonish like approach, Are you getting honestly? I don't know, I don't know why. Didn't just say: please leave now

so why most communes didn't make any it didn't work, because no one wanted to have any sort of confrontation in any way whatsoever. No one wanted to be the man yeah on this move. Proved to be a harmful one for her by not because abandonment, but because Hawaii was were heard was introduced to mess with made the voices in his head that much louder the wise words of reserve, be put back to Kabul them so promote lives, but also through this TED Cockle. Eventually, his parents brought him back home spent to stable weeks in Santa Cruz, but when his meds ran out here, turned to weed and acid set. Now he was added mess. To them- oh my goodness. Even so, Herbie still got a job as a truck driver through of all p,

all the manager of the goodwill who had been a party to the penis in conversation the year before. Even still, he is on trucker stay Lloyd, he's on acid we'd. He is like, didn't she means. They are days ahead of time after that, her began dating a guy and for a whole lot. More lsd shaved said and spent most time wearing a big black number arrow and speaking exclusively in a mexican acts. Ass God made. We all go through a homeless. Will slow poke Rodriguez, Spain when we actual this is, but this is I can't just sideways, there's gotta kill anyone would just like funny guy, you see when you're going through small towns as you travel across the country, then move to Francisco to the infamous Tenderloin District leather, tenderloin district still is a very fond placed of if visit, that's where we stayed the first

show me the show in San Francisco remember that hotel, where there's just people screaming constantly outside the window, twenty four hours a day. What, if I told you that the hotel that he stayed in with only same exact block as the hotel that we these showed footage of the Tenderloin street that he was on in one of the commissioner, as I watched and I thought hotel that we stated what we heard that man scream like I've ever heard a person scream before it was a place where our girlfriends could not go outside alone, or they would be violently a cost it was also a place that did not allow cars to park industry because everyone having sex behind them and their answer was no more cars Would you through this? In a nutshell, really solving the problem through coverage is the problem we give it back

The Seventys, the tenderloin, was truly a terrible and terrifying place to behold. To give you an idea of the types of people who felt comfortable in the tenderloin, This was where Richard Ramirez both killed his first victim and he returned to in the middle of his killing spree for a short vacation. That also, for you're a couple of murders. Ace, not gotta and our honeymoon, when I was workin, can sometimes have soared. You find her. Well, the middle vacation, saying yourself: I need a vacation from it, the case of the walls, Molly was in the tenderloin. He was told by a friend that reinforce nation was real and telepathy was real. To accept telepathy was not something the ordinary mortals Kudu mandates, as this is already. Have you got his people use it? You people I would like all hell. Yeah man you're tell back that's cool, it's rare dude, my shit. I folk arbitrary,

hang out common asked the trash cared for Austria. The trash can fucker Here I don't know what you're thinking yeah. What is it also we have about the poorer loose trash? Can I can have sex now this claim that telepathy was not seven. The ordinary mortals could do. This was a revelation to her to him Perceived telepathy was a part of his everyday life because part of the vocal hallucinate

she heard were supposedly telepathic messages from other people. So after hearing his friends opinion, the telepathy was a gift to the chosen few. Her began to believe that he was chosen by God to discover the hidden knowledge of humanity will think about think of how trippy that fuckin right now, you are, you believe, Skynet secretly, that you're telepathic, you ve, told some people for the most part, you kind of walk round when they talk about in condensed chaos, where this smugness of the wizard like it's a problem with the wizard, the magician becomes the other, because they believe that their holding information that no one else maybe too, so they believe they are experiencing a higher level of reality than everyone else and the kind of become aloof and separate and feel that they are above. So we have this kind of personal inkling that huh.

The only person whose telepathic where he has his telepathic ability, then some dude randomly just as crazy as it does like it telepathic that makes you the one I'm super special over just by the opposite of what he needed to hear right right, while MILAN was Ruminate Non, that he took another dishwashing job and began boxing in golden gloves company Do. How scary would he be as an opponent Joe live with well just like swing in randomly book by would seven guilder hair. Look. Why are we little guy? He had a tattoo on it underneath his belly button that says legalise LSD, old school style- and this is true, but it completely through and just him jump into the hardest form of garden. Yeah and from a former trainer said he was great as long as you kept him focused.

I remember it, but if you turn your back gone on for more than a minute. You turned back around fine the coroner the ring having a full conversation with a person who wasn't there seriously bill Cosby. I need a folk my feet? I want Brill Cosby Louisbourg job as a beloved, chimerical meeting They discovered to be grip, was designed to like that. Call build Crosbie, boy whose era couple. I mean he could see a lot of money on trainers, though he's gonna be in Kabul in the corner, he doesn't need anyone. There ring the bell he'll still. We'll stay focused for three minutes. Then you have to talk to the coroner, tortuous burnt up guy. How do we go about not only when it is that's fucking, so that's good psychological. Fair gets, the body will manage them. Do you think

scream at a general balls, stapi and gay. You have to go back and waiting time. Defining an ok manner get out freak. Anyone out, I mean, It was a bit of a tactic, and you know he reportedly loved it and kept him off the acid, but it all came crashing, down in the middle of match, because C b, and why least gets a frantic off medication and very unpredictable. Can sometimes interfere with boxing dear one match. He hit an opponent with a hard right hook and sent him to the ground, but instead of waiting for the count, Herbie inexplicably jumped on top of a guy and started pummeling, his appeal it in the face over and over again and saw every one else had to jump into the ring and pull him off. This is a time this is ample of a man who was born in the wrong time period. First of all, Sis love is now a

common thread on poor knob or any porn site that you want to go to. Second of all, he's just a great you have see fighter trapped in a box in work, that was, you have see, knock em out and then, of course, the big John would have to pull him off at some point now, but I think it could have been. By modern technology, modern sports and modern port. Interesting theory. He'll say its lead, all my lap less like this. Naturally goddammit from the league and after this car, king disappointment, Harb started doing LSD once more ended up back at his parents house by early fall nineteen. Seventy nine hundred, you guys didn't expect to see me again we didn't you point. His parents were definitely afraid of him. Oh do and they again sweet old couple. Truly Sweden did not did not beat him hidden, absolutely normal lob childhood and you have to bring him back in he's now got weird ass

hippy tattoos he's put himself he's looking more Morse dishevelled each time he shows up and you have to be like saw her. You want some tossed. Meanwhile, he's a shadow boxing, Finally, the man was this time Herbert Molin began seriously, studying both numerous ology and its relation to spit. Big events in history, especially Vince surrounding his own date of birth. First Molin discovered that the day of his birth was also the day of Einstein's death rush it. But in instead of thinking that he was Einstein, reincarnated Herve decided that Einstein had died to protect both him and all others born on April eighteenth, from dying in the van non war because Einstein it offered himself as a sacrifice. Then Molin discover that his birthday was also the date of the great San Francisco earthquake of nineteen O

six in which anywhere from seven hundred to three thousand people died. We don't really know what that is quite a guy though I have to say it Twenty three hundred people? Ok, let me they don't really even know how many people living Fuckin San Francisco, ok, now and again. So it's no idea. We live MRS three hundred years from the fuckin count, yeah you're, seventeen Ojo, we want to get worse time, humankind strike! That's what I said this is Ray coincided with reports from local scientists who are saying loudly and often that the big one was come in for California at any time, they claim that I was the big one was Louis, Anderson area. While we have one now he'd like on a torrent floriszoon baskets, I was the Rapporteur Sinners Louis Life, with Louise, the single group. Cartoon in the history of cartoons. I stand by it, don't even come: Abbe, Louise Anderson is an under a comic genius. Don't come at me, don't you

Any one of us. Please leave us alone and win her. Rollin discovered this whole earthquake thing. That's when the voices in his head started, making connections O Rachel heard that violent death, whether it be from war or murder, was pleasing to odd, and if God was not satisfied with the amount of blood flowing on earth, then God would syn natural disasters like earthquakes to cause Mass Day all on his own. If only the Bible wasn't so full of that exact, same philosophy, not as if the other ideas he's just knowing about the ether that is all of the Bible acceptable we're Adam and Eve kind of touch, each other's genitals Man I mean this is straight old. This is very old testament stuff, not us nineteen. Seventy two, when the death count in the Vietnam was slowly dropping, but if there are fewer

in Vietnam. That meant that God was gonna, be satisfied very soon yeah. She she's, not frickin. Pin head that's going on here. This is an l razor. This is a revision of God. Remember Joseph Challenger had the same thing now: Irey scared of God, you're scared of the idea of because it's the true the term, also in its actual meaning wearing your kind of in front of a force that you can't understand in your body has a reaction to it you're scared of this omnipotent, I in the sky that now, you believe, you're the only one that can see it properly right, so harbour began that this earthquake, that all the local scientist we're talking about was sure to strike at any time and being a cop quote chosen. One meant that Herbie thought that he could and should do something about. It The first her thought about committing suicide. But to say

that one life would not be enough to please God. So Herbert Molin decided that to save every person in California he would have to kill a few people in Santa Cruz. I don't think he understood how many people were dying in Vietnam like if you want, if you want to make up for the losses of Vietnam casualties he'd, have to kill off Frick of a lot more than thirteen people. You are correct, newer, very correct and that also points towards the possibility that movie is just sort of a justification that he really wanted to kill people, and this is where you know skews you don't think he was convinced that this was the truth, though I think he eats its kind have these zis situation. He was convinced. That was the truth, but he also wanted to do a shirt you know. When you have a visual hallucination, on. Mushrooms are acid, and your brain half completes the visual right words like you. Don't

nor Europe normally see him. I when I triples, I don't normally the full like cartoon you know something I've never than that many drugs, but you kind of see things that were. Mind, you have something that then you kind of complete the story for yourself you're right. I feel that these were threads that were got more organised as he started speaking. Two investigators later on but like a force behind what he was doing, he was inspired by it immediately again he's not like Yorkshire ripper on some level. He thought that this was all entirely real. Ok, yeah. I think that he was happy that it was real, but before her was to commit his first murder, he decided to pay his aunt Bernice. An uncle e knows a series of visits. It's weird when he said the invitation that just said when he sent the invitation. That you're said: let's have a fog party

I'll, be there at eleven thirty, it's not that far off the first time he showed up to his aunt and uncles place, offering to explain yoga. Then uncle e knows asked him to leave when her, sir, get naked? Now, let me show you. This is crazy. Nephew far particle pick my balls of my asshole uncle. He knows I can really wretched few days after that, Harb showed but you know some Bernie says house again walked in the door without knocking and stuff. Leave but calmly demanded the uncle egos flop out his tongue two goals so hard could see. Who's was bigger. Ok, listen! I wanted just up. I want to see him, so I can set the record straight. I can take pictures of put the result in my honestly if this uncle was any kind of uncle at all, he would like Bernice. Get this get. The radio fly, but it is clearly not

Look at this and eyes. Are these? That's it out there in Europe and never comes in and wants to do, and not competition by uncle law. You have got to uncivil, show the knots. Let him know Your balls are up up. Finally, more Harb showed up outside Bernice Syn II knows his house with a detailed plan. And get Bernice pregnant because hernia An ear nose had tried without success for years. Oh, what he brought a chart How to charge me any use like look also at Bernice. If you could see I've, I've worked out win, your periods are, and I've worked out certain days win, win you and uncle egos need to have a sexual of relation Sophie. Just invite me in for just a moment than I can explain an entire thing to you in full detail and she just looked at him and said you need to go.

Yeah you're visas at it. You need to get out of here. They evidently sauce did at that point. Oh yes, and the chart is really what You decided for launching I mean I understand you know. Sometimes we get invited out to lunch with an old friend and then all they want to do is talk about podcast or something like that, and it's like I thought we were just gonna have lunch. We have looked at listeners, you ve had over a series of years. I love you, but why are we won just wanted to hang out swollen torn up after all, that timber of nineteen. Seventy two just before the murder started the moon family decided that it was probably a good. Did a lock Herbert away in an asylum where He wanted to go or not draw the shit with. Yes- and you know so- we got a fucking. We just got a lock him away and he's been in and out everyone's terrified of em. We got a lot.

Somewhere, but this was just after the Republicans led by. Then Governor Ronald Reagan gain control of California. Soon. As Reagan got an office, he D funded all the state, mental hospitals, yeah, that's so smart, a great idea, actor who has no actual break and then, when Reagan became president, he applied that nation. Why? What's that actors are shallow shells? They only get fuel with information by huge, wealthy donors, Other Reagan was sort of like a ghetto mention ace winter again today, where he opens the wars and all of the the pets. I everywhere, but he did it with a bilingual insane, yes, and all of a sudden. Ah, you couldn't have her by nothing

I was gonna say the Republican Party is like the landlord and adventure is like this guy, but you don't want to ask everyone. I've lost all beg for the Mullins, the only other option. Besides the state, mental hospitals that regular just closed the only other option was a private hospital, the cost a hundred dollars a day about six hundred dollars a day and today's money, it's like the entire thing, with a massive scam to help corporate overlords benefit of the suffering of others. Leg increase the prison population by trip. Overwhelming Reagan's time. Maybe, but then again, you gotta think about this. Market led me to work with the suffering of people put money on top of money. This is straight of too much truth and we're gonna have to put you did with among Mullins couldn't afford a fuckin weak

not always the months, if not years it would take to make harbour functioning meant member of society, even if her never became a functioning member of society. There were least been a fuckin room, lock him away and to prevent him from killing thirteen people. But no we need mental hospitals not to get to able gets top at here, but the rubber Dukakis they beat took August and eighty eight, by doing the Williams, where he just like circles out at present, because you know he did commit a crime and they had they had their weekend away plan to try to integrate It does society, but literally baby, didn't even have anything. There were just like if you're, crazy, good luck have Fun Ronald Reagan, the blood is on his hands. I agree I agree and it's hard because we ve this on the show many times. I think that everyone should have a shot,

it being rehab, and even the people need help. Sometimes you forcibly need help. We ve all been in a spot where, like their people, that should come and got me with nets at least a couple of times in my life. I honestly, but you know, there's a certain stripe of people fortunately just kind of you to be put in a row and levelled at it? I so much happier just like a gene tat. He would have been delivered his best life if he was medicated and hang with other folks similar to him, but since again decided that mental hospitals were an unnecessary luxury of soldier high now by wealthy country in the world. I can't believe it there nowhere to put harbour Mullen. Instead, he began a third. Seen person murder spree that terror Santa Cruz for four months she's leading up to the murders Herbie.

He began receiving telepathic messages from his uncle S, nose to kill his father but heard, and do it because he his father had overheard the telepathic path of conversation and told them to kill ino. Instead, this happens in. Do The matter is that this happens in and also I do now realized in the handwashing area. Ok, the bathroom. I don't know why I called it that the mirror a dune reference year in the Alley studio that I did not realise that I put on my instagram, but I found it to be quite powerful, all about fear and how you let it pass here is undermined killer. You guys doing reference than ever wanted. My Garbutt section was like nerd? It's too, however, so what energy, because it was unbeknown to me. No got you that's good. That's the mental equivalent of a bear trap. What are refused either one of em, but he believed entire family was trying to make him kill crazy, but kill that guy Nokia.

Kill him, no kill him, but since he refused to kill there is father or his uncle, the urge to kill was redirected out into the world and Molin committed, dispersed murder in October of nineteen. Seventy two on Friday, the thirteenth on that day harbour Mullen was driving, is nineteen. Fifty eight chevy station wagon towards the famous Santa Cruz tourist attraction known, as the mystery spot here. Due to some, adaptation, anomaly that nobody can explain, Taurus concern. And seemingly impossible angles without falling and in some Kay they are required to stand at impossible angles due to the monsieur Yes, gravitational forces. The theories. The spot, our range from a o guidance system to a magma vortex to someone called die electric Bio cosmic radiation. Oh, you I am a system from that from wars makes not going anywhere we'll get in here.

Nobody really knows why it does. What it does its gravitational anomaly. That's go. Almost people found the mystery spot be a bit of discord. Fun. This place actually made Mullen feel good does the voices in his head for some reason: calm down when he was inside the gravitational anomaly summit about it's really it he's off kilter and then that place makes them balanced and up again, but his heart was driving the mystery spot. On that day, he p the man described as a quote: familiar local hobo in the herd. Molin episode of the British born to kill documentary series yet Whitey White Ladys a fun guy. He was a fungi. Everybody knew I love a good hobo. Now this man was named Lawrence White and he was just one of the Estimated seventeen thousand homeless people who lived in

tooth and small encampments in the woods surrounding Santa Cruz. At this time could remember a hobo its one doesn't have home whose looking for work its work and homeless per year does exactly So after passing Lawrence, the voices in Herbert's head began argue with one another as to whether or not the old man should be killed. Should this man be the first victim, but then a new voice appeared which Herbert Hook to be the voice of the potential victims. Speaking telepathic Lee, supposedly the old man, I didn't find himself as the biblical Jonah from the story of Jonah and the whale specifically. The message said quote pick me up and throw me over the boat

kill me so that others will be saved her obeyed. He pulled over ahead of Lawrence White and opened his hood to give the impression that he was having car trouble sure enough Lawrence a whitey offered to help once he came upon her herbs car. But his Laurent bent over to take a look at the engine moment baseball bat out of his car and smashed Lawrence over the head, oh Lawrence, was on the ground. Molin beat him to death with a baseball bat. Oh, this is what I find interesting is that he created around about way too. As we talk, about like tv normalized this, and he please beginning is escalation and put himself in the position where murder was the only way that he could get out of. What

four situation he was dealing with here. I put himself there and then it's weird that he actually made a coherent plan to kill some on the work. He said like I will look like a stranded motorists and then I'll be able to sneak, some one and its it just weird how his brain popped up up up up, really well thought out murder plan, we need it and it was so brutal. Is it fair to say that he just like Molly, Shannon in the movies superstar jumped in the deep, and it seems like he is just berserk thirteen murders in four months? Did he ever have a chill out period now, so he just wants once he hit the ground. Run and AEGIS never stops Brinton. Never once it started. Trying to save the earth Yapped gathered theirs. Time to cool down right after killing them hurt

white, all the blood and brain from the bat on Lawrence Clothing, close the hood of his car and calmly drove away mom. It was found the next day or that afternoon, depending on the source police No leads whatsoever is just another. It's another violent death. Well, we know it we know was a baseball player version. So let's build up the baseball diamond hadn't, let's younger than you ever setting up or not, and I want to start a bat like you want to kill somebody with it wait a second. I think I found this little piece of June, so Coral Nook, yeah I've changed just check. Every one of the World Series players, rigour in seas whose myths and then Finally, the killer, but me that tells you that Mullen knew he was doing was wrong. He sand at all. The bloodstains offers bat that afternoon then casually walked news parents house for lunch but, on the other hand,

can also say that Herbert Molin hid the evidence for his crimes because he knew that site? It large wouldn't understand the mission and if he was caught than the mission was over and California would drop into the ocean. Ok, in a way, though mall and said that the murder made him feel good. So yet, no reason to stop. Three days later. He said he driving on so quell boulevard when old man on a street corner supposedly communicated another telepathic message. The message said quote her: Her warn you to kill somebody, so her went home to think about it and, while ruminating the request he began to read a biography about the sculptor Michelangelo in this biography. The writer went in from the fact that Michelangelo disaffected cadaver specifically so he could learn the form of the human body for his art, which is partly true impact

my people say: Michelangelo's one of the greatest sculptures, the human form, whoever existed right, Hobbs mother had actually given her the book, hoping to inspire him to use art as an emotional outlet She wants to focus on the are using all the nice is that all the pain of wisdom so art yeah, all I did was give Mullen ideas on how to combine so called sacrifices with what he came to call serious art he so such a bad man villain he's this Joker, Israel, Joker seen in a museum. So on October, twenty fourth Herbert Molin decided to put this fantasy into practice on that day, while driving on this spot where Molin supposedly received his last message to kill. He sought. When a four year old, Mary Gill, foil hitchhiking, she was on

a Cabriole college for a job interview in the second Molin SAR. He claimed that a voice in his head said that she was the next to die and Molin agreed. There's something about him cruising and looking in an having these moments again out of a horror right from the eighties where you see someone walking and your your highly at David you're, in the middle of what is an skirts of Apis awry a new look and share sort of makes eye contact with your young girl walking on. She makes eye contact with you, and then you have the moment of like don't Dumdum, Dumdum Dumdum, where you hurt, you hear a voice being like. I want you to kill me to save the city fair, and you believed that this Spock worry ride, what is the big features? Schizophrenia is making connections, were no connections exist and for him he was driving this was on what said sought. Sarah

boulevard. Sarah equal is a medication for mental illness, so quick, for farmers use German on so called boulevard, and this was the same place where the old man had said They sent the message hey. I want you to kill somebody. You know a few days, but I think, like two weeks They are some like that. So, within the connection is made the girls there and that's how she dies. Isn't there wasn't? What's the horror movie, that's kind of. Why is it Jake the latter, the one where the father is kind of us gets a frantic, but then it turns out he's correct royalty, free Multi gaseous ruin, ending he's really but yes, it is a great rats. Now I find out for one five years, people can't see every single fucking movie that ever comes out. You don't need despoil every single Bobby, thou boiling frickin movie if our audience is not seen frailty. It's time, I rarely it's been so the girl is like a. We do see for healthy gray, there's like a cool, really really cool

well now and as they go to an amusement park and they build a zoo grant, you should see. Frailty debt should really see profound, really want you anymore. I believe what this is. Stored in merrily bad time to be hitchhiking in Santa Cruz, because Ed Camper had already abducted embroiled, murdered several girls on this exact same stretch of road in the proceedings There is already a hero killer on the loose in Santa Cruz, they're, all out This is the movie. I saw the devil.

Yeah, see no devil where there's like a group, a serial killer, just hang out just being friends and shit great movie, but just like Camper Molin appeared to be harmless. Some Mary took the chats after Molen picked her up and drover to a secluded spot that he claimed was a short cut. He park the car, then, after a brief struggle, he pulled out a hunting knife and stabbed Mary Gill Foil in the heart and back multiple times until she bled to death. He then dragged her corpse about a hundred and twenty five yards away into a small utterly secluded clearing. Here's a small gold star warning offer this little patch. Yet the episode Jesse you now taking the hunting knife, Mullins, Sly, stopping her abdomen an imitating. The story of Michael

Angelo studies. Molin began a crude dissection. First, he pulled apart the muscle tissue with his bare hands, exposing the organs underneath. He then pulled out the stomach, intestines, liver and kidney. He didn't remove the lungs, but he did reach inside the chest cavity to see what they felt like. Finally, he took the intestines and hung them from near by tree branches in his own pathetic attempt at art. Giving no mind to what he was leaving behind Molin than simply gotten his car and drove away, leaving the horribly Mc Cobb seen to be found for months later by hiker? Ok, my question to you guys if he believes he saving the earth by

killing these people. What's with the theatrical, why does he had it? In my view, it is a means, you're like why wouldn't heat, and it's ok if you're dead, you'll, add. Why do you have to do this presentation to go question? Let's say there is such a thing as the collective unconscious, and there are things that had been experienced by human kind since the very beginning of us of art, civilization like since we started farming and putting together in organizing religions. Sprite may deem the Mayans believed that the suffering is what provided the juciest manner, especially sacrifice to God on some level right, maybe you could even say there is some form of connection too HU, an old, timid intelligence that this sort of belief system inside of it, which is this- is me prostrating and attempting to impress God with my commitment,

two sparkle motion. Right I arrived. I am committed to this murder in a flagrant and intense way to create the most impact where God will maybe offer a little bit more time killer, destroying LOS Angeles before great finger, comes down and wipes LOS Angeles off the map. That I mean it's, I think it part it is yes, the schizophrenia impulses are telling him to do these things and he is acting on. These gets a frantic impulses, but I also think he's doing the intestine drapery answer other how we commit, such as other murders later on he's doing cuz he likes it it's like it. Yeah he's the east, my daddy, what you like some say that it would you like some, because it is in a like it. It is run out fared, so it is over in agreement, and so am where, in agreement that this is if Tom Green was a serial killer, you would be hard. Mullins

I won't have a lot to do and we all know Tom Ground of cereal Doggery. Milan persuaded our generation is building up to the south that Eu Doggery element from their moment, Crimes only got more horrific for altogether different reasons, all of which will be covered on part. To come in, week, O riot Herbert Molen in under I dont want to say that term the repression appreciated the an under covered aerial killer, I think is safe to say, fascinating, guys, good, interesting, find and if you are or know anyone that suffer from mental health, I think it is safe to say treatment is the best option, ass. Our country has had a veiled history of treating mentally ill, be there resources, so please take

air of yourselves and take care of each other, because good Lord, when it goes unchecked, were seen what can happen, but also don't think that people with schizophrenia and all people with mental illness are fuckin potential harbour Mullins thousand order. Not out there really This is just what happens. When you're both very sick and an asshole ass, a everyone. Thank you all oh, but for elicited will we got here? We got a new fan, archer that is coming up against its on sale. Last podcast merged dot com, this week's this month's chow was designed by Alexander Runnion. It's the hellish rebuke Helen I reckon I loved her Idee is at a lie auto, which is spelled a l, L, a Y, a l Tito. You should check out, stop we're website is Alexandra Runnion an Iranian is spelled. Are you an end,

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