Singer Mary-Chapin Carpenter reads a story about new love (much) later in life.
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is he released. A new album this year called the things that we are made of: here's marriage, apron Carpenter with Eve, Pelles Essay, the race growth sweeter near its final lap salmon I dated for two years. Then, when I turned seventy and he eighty we had a joint one hundred and fifty a birthday party and announced our engagement. We married a year later we came from very different backgrounds, SAM a chap and American who had been interned in the camps during World WAR, two worked his way through college and was happily married to his japanese american wife for more than forty years until her death. I grew up as a fox hunting Happy taunt, whose Colonial New York ancestors were Lord of the Manor of Pelham TIP, all of my much married family. I've been divorced twice
We belong to the same San Francisco area running club. He was a rarity camps during world war two worked his way through college and was happily married to his japanese american wife for more than forty years until her death. I grew up as a fan JANET had in her house a small movie theater that seated about a dozen people she often had parties there. I called her This is very seventh grade. I began, but I'd like you to invite SAM to one of your screenings I'll come to any movie, he's coming to single man of seventy seven. I wanted to get to know him better. After the movie, as we were all standing around and chatting someone mentioned a
That seated about a dozen people, she often had parties there. I called her. This is very seventh grade. I began, but I'd like you to invite SAM to one of your screenings I'll come to any movie he's coming too soon after she called he's coming on Thursday, there were eight or ten of us there that evening, after the movie, as we were all standing around and chatting some one mentioned, the motorcycle diaries a new film about shake with aura I'd like to see that I said I would too Samson short pause. I held my breath. He looked at me. Would you like to go squelching the urge to high five JANET? I said. Yes, we set a date for the following week: he'd meet me at the theater, but when the day came.
Salmon I began running together early on. However, I was faced with a dilemma at a half marathon and humbled county. He went out fast and was way ahead, but as the miles went by I crept closer and closer, and I could see from the way he was running that I had more energy left. What to do should I beat him and risk his being was. some men really hate being bested by a running together early on. However, I was faced with a dilemma at a half marathon in Humboldt County if he gets annoyed that I ran faster he's, not the man for me. So I sped up. Patted him on the behind and said come on
down to the finish and that's it happened. He couldn't keep up, but I need to Worried SAM didn't get upset. In fact, he seemed pleased I had one well I could slow down and let him beat me, but that would be patronising to him and make me resent salmon. I often eight chinese restaurants, where I was noise that I ran faster he's, not the man for me. So I sped up patted him on the behind and said come on. I ran onto the finish and as it happened, he couldn't keep up, but I needn't have worried SAM didn't get upset. In fact he seemed pleased I had run well, and so we grew together. Cinnamon I often ate at chinese restaurants, where I received some fortune cookies. The truly lived up to their name
Two of my favorites persevere with your plans and you will marry your love. Stop searching forever happiness is just next. And I knew that his reaching out was a brave gesture I reciprocated inviting him in for when he took me. I haven't narrow, uncomfortable I in concentrate. I can recapture the moment the dark of the theater, the warmth of his hand, my happiness, one might not expect an old grandmother to feel a surge of romance, but I did- and I knew that his reaching out was a brave gesture. I reciprocated inviting him in for tea
who had died six years before in my younger years. I would have felt competitive as if his love for her meant less for me now I knew differently and one night I spoke my mind. I know that you loved Betty very much and I have great respect for your marriage. I began, but I think you have room in your heart for me too. He hugged me and went home. Several days later, he asked. Are you going to run the five K and Carmel next week S would? like to go together, yes. I had no idea what he had in mind, but that became clear a few days later.
and I talking after a Run- SAM looked bashfully down at his shoes, as he said in your heart. For me too, he hugged room with one bed. Is that later. He asked. Are you going to run the five k in Carmel next week? Yes, Would you like to go together? Yes, I had no idea what he had in mind, but that became clear He had entirely missed the later we customs of the A and SAM when he down and staying over at my house. He always stop the newspaper. His house, so the neighbors wouldn't know what was going on, but for all his adherence to decorum. He was a true romantic you months later, when we were both in Europe on separate trips, we met in Barcelona. This was a leap
and he had entirely missed the change in customs of the sixties and seventies when he began staying over at my house. He always stopped the newspaper at his house, so the neighbors wouldn't know what was going on When I arrived at our hotel, he was there with wine chocolates and flowers, or when we were both in Europe on separate trips, we met in Barcelona. This was a leap. Traveling together in a foreign country would be a more exacting test of our relationship than our jaunts to movies and races, but in this, as in almost everything else, sand
retired with a comfortable pension. I was a freelance writer. With an outside income are middle age. Children were on their own. We had nothing to do but love each other and be happy sham, and I did things younger people do we ran and raised. We fell in love and travelled and remodelled a house and got married after the ceremony. We flew to Hawaii. You must never call this a honeymoon. He told me that way. No one can ever say that the honeymoon is over. We traveled to ITALY to compete in the two thousand
seven world masters, Athletics championships. What I fondly call the geriatric Olympics where we both won gold medals in our respective age brackets. Seventy two, seventy four for me and eight thousand two hundred and eighty four for SAM at home. We planted garden. I finished writing a memoir every morning weed is that the honeymoon is over. We traveled to ITALY to compete in the two thousand and seven World Masters athletics championships. What I fondly call the geriatric Olympics where we both won gold medals in our respective age brackets. Seventy to seventy four for me old love is different in our planted and garden. We finished been through
of life's ups and downs to know who we were and we learned compromise. We knew something about death because we had seen loved ones die. The finish line was drawing closer. Why not have one last blossoming I was no longer so pretty seventies and eighties. We had been through enough of life's ups and downs, ups and downs to know who we were and we had learned compromise. We knew something and, unlike other men, I've been with SAM was grown up. Unafraid of intimacy could joyfully explored what life had to offer assuming of the heart. I was no longer so pretty, but I was not so neurotic either I survived loss and mistakes and IL.
Ill considered decisions if this relationship failed I'd survive that too and soon, as I began to bulge one missed diagnosis and failed treatment followed another until there was a biopsy. A week later, his doctor called to say SAM had stage four cancer that he would not survive There was the agony of SAM's fight to live, which he waged with grace and courage, desperate to lessen his sufferings. I learned to give I nurses, twenty dollars Starbucks cards to get special care for him and failed treatment followed another until there was a biopsy a week later, his doctor called even those and a few hours later he died He would not survive. There was the agony of SAM's fight to live which he waged with. Not only was I happy
desperate to lessen his sufferings. I learned to give hospital nurses, twenty dollar Starbucks cards, to get special care for him every day. I brought him bowls of his favorite watermelon balls, but one morning he couldn't eat even those and a few hours later he died. Not only was I happy during my short years with SAM. I knew I was happy. I had one of the most precious blessings available to human beings: real love. I went for it and found. Mary, yearn carpenter reading Pelles essay the race gross sweeter near its final lab marriage ape untold. that this essay jumped out at her in part because of one of her own songs called old love
when I was making the record that that song is on. I was talking to the dear dear friend of mine, great Bass, Player Glen Wharf, and he and his wife have been married for a very long time and they go up to this cabin. race grows sweeter near it's final lap. Mary Chapin told us that this essay jumped out at her in part because of one of her own songs called old love. When I was making the record that that song is on, I was talking to the dear dear friend of mine, great bass player. Glen said: how did you do this? You know how did you stay married for so long and Glenn said his? He just had zero dollars and one cents in his answer, which was nobody left, and I just love that hello checks, the cabin for them, and one day Glenn in this neighbor were having a long
long talking. I think the neighbor had been married like sixty years, something incredible like that and Glenn said how do do do this? You know how did you stay married for so long and Glen said his. He just had one sense in his answer, which was nobody left and I just love the nobody left pool carpenter, singing old love from her two thousand twelve album ashes and roses special thanks to her. For reading this week's essay she's current on tour with her new album. The things that we are made of is more information about. to her honor website. W B you are dot, org, slash, modern love. I love felling. My boyfriend- and I often play stalling me together by together, I mean sitting next to each other. Playing
individually and not cheating. Sometimes when I open up spelling bee, I see that you have completed a few words on your own. I feel a little betrayed in ferry may have happened. ITALY on tour with her new album, the things that we are made of I will send screenshots from spelling bee of inappropriate words B. I was getting nervous it to my parents or something like that a friend and I often play spelling bee together by together I mean sitting next to each other playing individually and not cheating. Sometimes when I open outgoing d- and I see that you have completed a few words on your own, I feel yeah yeah, I'm nice I'm same is asking the digital positive for the New York Times. You can try, spelling bee and all our games at annoyed times, dot com, slash games, also thanks to conquered music group for giving us permission to play some of old love. As for each Pell, how has she recovered from her young?
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And that was the thing one friend of mine when he heard I was going out with SAM turned to me and said: you know anytime, I see SAM here and there I met this guy who had lost his wife. At the same time, I lost SAM and when the meetings were over, he came up to me and said you know, would you ever like to go for a walk or something, and I had liked him- and I said sure, and Oh for about a year and a half we kind of head coffee or we walked away grieved about our dead spouses and we became free. And then, after a while the relationship, it took a little romantic, and there I met this guy who I lost his wife. At the same time I lost SAM and when Came up to me and said you know, would you ever like to go for a walk or something, and I had liked him and I said sure, and so, and so for about a year and a half we kind of had coffee or we walked away grieved about
Why shouldn't she feel that way? This is new. Love is a discovery, there's the sense of surprise the new love feels young. You know new love, feel old. Even if you think you are old, it teaches the sense that it will never to all in how she felt like she was in middle school again, with this guy and why shouldn't she feel that way? This is new love. This is a discovery. There's this sense of surprise and that new love feels, possible in older age is feel huge interest to me. I was aware the other day that there are three hours that have kind of motivated my life running, writing and romance, and actually I've started taking african drumming lessons, so I've added a fourth are which is rhythm
next year. I will be eighty and am looking up where the most fun international competitions for track and feel the power and the amount in part to me is the amount of fun you can have when you're all were not just sort of dead and dry and done for in many ways we can be just as foolish as younger people, and the flip side of that is. We can have as much fun so there is a study that was published about happiness throughout life and talks about this most shaped happiness curve where people are at their amazing. peak of happiness in their late teens and into their early twenties and then. For many ways we can be just as foolish as younger people and the flip side of that is. We can have as much fun. Continues to go down this long slope into this sort of trough.
And then that curve starts to ascend again, I'm go up the other side of the you, and I find this this idea fascinating and it's completely borne out by the submissions. Stories that I receive a modern love, The younger riders right with this mixture of hope and anxiety people in mid life. the trough and then that curve starts to ascend again ascend again and go up the other side of the EU, and I find this This idea fascinating. And it's completely borne out by the submissions and stories that I receive a modern love. The younger writers write with this mixture of of hope through it all, and you know what a good thing is and you can grasp at and hold on to it and appreciate it, because you know it's not going to last
forever. That's Dan Jones, editor of modern love for the New York Times. Talking about Eve, write essay, a race grows sweeter near its final. This is a lot of people connected with Rory, in fact, after writing the piece for modern love Eve was asked to write a book about the topic, so she traveled around the country interviewing people who'd found love after age. Sixty she tells their stories in the book, love again the wisdom of as editor of modern love for the New York Times talking about Eve, Pels essay. The race grows sweeter near it's final laps. Now a lot of people connected with Eve story. In fact, after writing, the piece for modern love, Eve was asked to write a book, book about the topic, so she traveled around the country interviewing people who'd found love after age. Six, having a hard time finding guys
cuz. You know in those of us who are older. Now we grew up in an age when these kind of things were not particularly possible or might have been even scandalous. The fact that people can full passion it late in love, I love spelling, be my boyfriend and I often play spelling bee together. By together I mean sitting next to each other playing individually and not cheating. Sometimes when I open up scowling d, I see that you have completed a few words on your own. I feel a little betrayed very may have happened. I have one friend. I will send screenshots from spelling bee of inappropriate words and I was getting nervous I sent to my parents or something like that calling me together by together, I mean sitting next to each other playing individually and not cheating. Sometimes when I open up spelling- and I see that you have completed a few words on your own, I feel a little betrayed
yeah, yeah, send screenshots from spelling bee of inappropriate words that I always get nervous that I sent it to my parents or something like that was my bad. It was the first time together and I was out- I think I got it- see it J, a c k, p, o t, if somebody is kind of unaverred of falling in love or has a question or a problem about it, I may not know all the answers, but I'm really eager to be as helpful as I possibly can and as supportive as I possibly can. You really means it. In fact, Eve welcomes your questions. Have you had a hard time? Finding love? Are you trying get back in the dating game after a loss send
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