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Episode 163: The Gruesome Murder of Brenda Sue Schaefer Part 2

2020-08-13 | 🔗
For part two of this horrific murder case we dive even deeper into Mels past. We find out what it would actually be like to be married to this spaghetti Eddie, a former lover of his has lots more information than originally thought and of course Ash leaves us on another cliffhanger! See you next week for part three!! As always thank you to our sponsors! Hunt a Killer:  Just for our listeners you can go to HuntAKiller.com/MORBID and use promo code MORBID at check out for 20% off your first box. Careof: For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com/morbid50 and enter code morbid50 Upstart: hurry to Upstart.com/morbid to find out HOW LOW your Upstart rate can be. Checking your rate only takes a few minutes! Your loan amount will be determined based on your credit, income, and certain other information provided in your loan application. Not all applicants will qualify for the full amount.
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when the damn thing, but we have some fun stuff covered up so lacking. That's really at my right, my dear member MEL, oh, oh I member now Ignacio Melick, oh and I believe- and we left him he was like running through the house- would like a bottle of whisky. Was it was I don't know if I was always relevant, misgiving right. Wasn't there without those alcohol, and I was embrasure net as whisky Noah, I yeah, village, I picture just a bottle. Jack would know and mellow israeli something he couldn't afford. Soldier than Jack is like an offence. You answer your question We is so they talked Doktor Spalding? They talked about his friends and her family and then they had that interaction that they had with male luggage and exciting about and the police and the FBI yeah. The FBI is involved. Now, of course, the Ferber is involved if they ring in agreements that they had
dude, but they did not realise how hard it was going to be to get MEL Ignacio like borderline impossible, so they wanted to dive even deeper into his past and the FBI specifically, so that they could find a profile him and yet figure out his deal. And let me tell you we're gonna talk more about his like profile in part. Three scary mail is no joke. No Jesse joke! That's on it. much younger than I had a juicy joke? I thought I had found so to dive in part two. start talking to the women that mail had previously been romantically involved with Sue? I want to hear from them. Will they had some shit to say I'm shocked. So I had actually been married before and he had three children really who daughters at that why Emerson, obviously, but I was like what daughters, and this is how you treat women like real nice smell K K. So he was to those women in sharing the honeymoon,
Sharon, Keepin her and now her email on growth. she and malware married and my own mail. Maybe they were married and nineteen sixty and they were actually married for thirteen years before they got separated. Lucky number. Thirteen was not so lucky. Why, and maybe it was lucky that she got lucky for her to get out of this, so they separated Nineteen. Seventy three Sharon had a lot of shit to tell the investigators and the Phoebe of FBI about now Sharon. bill that tee? Not only does she spilett she's, jumping glass after glass over their heads amazing, she said that mail is very controlling which we know. Ah, he considered himself to be her superior woodrow. I think we know, and he made all of the decisions for the household. That's no good! You gotta be a team. You gotta be a team very important. It's inside, especially of children. I think because it's always important, but then, when you have kids, it becomes even more important.
They need to see you as a unit exactly that. We're not gonna get anything past either of these big likely or force field. No good cop, bad comments like it even relationship in any way, especially when you're living together, you gotta be a team and then I think when marriage, that legal bodies when airlines gotta be on the same team right arising or else going to end blues and some shit just always be teammates. Just you know just do it it's, it's a Lord song. I think team sure I think it is. I think you're right yeah I know I know I would sing it, but I don't know if it isn't so, I'm pretty sure that's away off Ebay, sellers back some relevant scary guy. Was you seabirds obsessed with what he looked like? He like always needed eternity haircut, which I like your ugly so like I got what you wanted your hair to look better by we're doing a good job now only cured disgusting pee wee. He was obsessed with like what his hair looked like what he dressed like he wore a diamond ring and he were gold chains. If that's your thing
cool, but you're a murderer. I was gone. I if you're a murderer, knew where those things knock. It had studied. It's no good, and I am sorry if you do that, whereas a pink hearing, but I just picture MEL with it keep your yeah I'm, not a big pink hearing person if you are someone who are as one leg preferences and preference is just a preference here. Also, unlike holdings, are, you are here my hands cracking the background. I like I'm, like holding my paintings aggressively tooth, say I e definitely worth it gearing he wore be definitely wore a diamond ring and gold chains, but so like what a chair in the kids where, because he was really obsessive appearances, he so fancy they must be to no, no, you know where they got their close Kay. are they which, like Cameron, actually asking that stuff you? But when he's out there like a banana republic in frickin other expensive places and the general public, not an expensive plaster shop? I guess This is a body one for you to pull out here, but I think does
like what I associate rich people very high hadn't, but White House, market is that another one thinks I'm actually saying stories that used to be like place where I work? the shop unless we're like the rich people incited legal. I really liked to the banana republic. One sponsor ass, though which is it said they had to get their clothes from? Came our and he's out there where in all his nice shit- and If sharing ran into any issues where she needed more money, she had no choice but to ask MEL because he controlled all the finances in it. I couldn't find that he gave her an allowance, but that basically what it sounded like, because what it seems, if you need more money, you have to come to me, Martin, exactly so that, as far as I'm concerned about two fuckin allowance NEA and no thank you so MEL would punish her for different things like that like. If she asked for money more money, she would get punished if she was slain.
late to something she would get punished or you can punish your spouse. That's just now No! I dont. Even I think that goes without saying. You're, not my parents know no link. Thank you that my parents were I'm gonna about. So I gotta know why you're tryin, but MEL's idea of punishment, was this I'm actually gonna give you a trigger warning, possesses really fucked up. He forced her to have anal sex, sure, yeah what the tsar raises her, yet he absolutely re literally raped her sodomized her as a punishment for being late, exactly out of me, was the punishment. Mel literally go sit on a chair. Going nuts and saying I'm gonna give you honestly at her door warning rescuing so because it's so fucked up while sharing so that he wasn't. I mean I think she may be had a different definition of vodka. it's because she said he what he was only violent with her twice when she meant hitting yeah, but I mean, while she was properly
oh Brainwash, absolutely anxious! That's what it is violence, so Sharon's Eddie hit her on two occasions in their marriage once he split her lip by heading her cheek and then the other time he bruised her arm like really badly. She was done towards the end of their marriage. Obviously yeah, but when she asked me about getting a divorce and also, I think she was like you, don't love me like wire, Mary to. I can we just go, but for me, Oh, it was her wanting to get out of it, which is rejection which these fuckers don't like, because it out of their control. So now Lake turned around and threatened to complete suicide. If she divorced him and then he like stopped like showing up to family events and like stopped having dinner with them and shit which their public we didn't want any dinner with you anyway. I know honestly, I built this is better, so thank you.
So thank you very much, I think so much smell. So eventually he agreed to the divorce, thank God and they were able to get divorced and nineteen. Seventy three good, but melded now go down without a fight of course now, and he got basically everything. He got full custody of the kids, so he is right. Bring her in beating her something this fucker gets full custody of children. You are asleep. She must have been so scared of him that I think maybe this was the first time she had told anybody in law enforcement. What had happened to her awful? But I think he and will see the way that he has such control. in Hungary as victims that these people do yeah. It's so master So not only did he got for custody of the children, he got their home and all the belongings and home here,
alimony from her. He got to keep all of his personal accounts, which is, I think, that's rare for divorce and he got to keep his car, which was like an expensive car. People were like what does he have on her, but she looked tat. He got the kids, I the kids, because remember this was seventies, and even now, it's pretty rare that a thousand gently custody in the seventies. That was like unheard of yeah. So people were like what happened earlier. What is he harm on her and what he had on her was fear. She was able to give a twelve page testimonial on what it was like being married to melt the FBI, that's horrifying twelve pages and made that's like of horrific, brief summary. Imagine what else was another man.
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while rewards members earn two times the rewards now give June thirtieth get the word why apple joined today. So sure he got divorced like maybe like the day after it seems like he met this woman named Marianne sure. Ok Who is a fucking, flaming, twat hall? Why I'd hate her and you're going to two? Oh good? They Matt. I think it's called risk Low out of her skull o store, then it sounds like versa. Risk alone was linked up. A home goods kind of story like they sold like Lamson, like ceramic It sounds like home goods. I love on goods. Then, once it was around for longer, I guess it mostly focused on furniture oak and pretty beside the point now really doesn't matter, because us like also best amount, but just let me know I want. I want you to. You suddenly see ya, think you
so act, one notes getting MEL and Marianne. They they both worked there and they hit it off, but melted people that he didn't have any interest really in like dating Marianne or any respect for her. He was just using her forsake ok, but he would write her notes that we're like what you would expect a high school boy. Friends like sex. Do you like he would write like weird creepy things on notes. I don't have any direct notes, but they were like a key. He was doing the thing that abusers do when I like suck you in that way. Yes in fact they throw on the charm throw on the chairman for her it. It was like she was a very different woman than Brenda Schaefer like Brenda. Schaefer was like gorgeous classic elegance, be like the best year Marian was Jesse Yoko Jesse ETA, where he was like. Oh, I just have to send her like sexy notes to get her I'm, whereas, like Brandir like he had to get her some nice study- really I do now. It's ok for me to say this about Maryanka, she's horrible get you you will agree yes
just wait. So user guide us use her for sex, but Marianne was smitten with male invest. It is kind of learned what the relationship was like in it a little more serious than what men had given credit for. They were dating, of course, and while you dated Miriam but remember he has the custody of kids. She would just like watch his kids. While he was away on business trips because remember he was like a traveling salesman, so he was gone. relax six weeks at a time, and this random lady would just be watch it his children watching his children up and she was honestly, just there to have an adult there. I guess, because she didn't cook for the kids. The housework was up to them and then ass? They got older. They started noticing that their personal belongings were missing from the room species a thief. She Isn t of everything: oh she's, just scum, She was so obvious issues stealing suffer like the kids, which starts messed up as it is.
And then the investigator sorry to hear similar things from the people and Marion's life, not just the kids that lived with her. They hurt he couldn't hold down a job. She was unreliable. Shoes, manipulative, actually, once straight a typewriter out her job because she was like really pissed off about something, so she just decided. That was a good idea. I gotta get out of the typewriter like one of the typewriter due to you nothin. So like us, and men might have just been using her fur like sex at an Inn house, baby sitter, but Marian felt much more for him. Of course she was basically like not just in love with him. She was obsessed with him. She would tell the king thought her and malware just waiting to get married until they were out of the house. So she was like need to get out of here so that I can marry your dad and actually all of males kids left when they were teenagers, so they left the house pretty early. I'm not shocked at all. Imagine the house that they were let it get me the fuck out of here yeah, I'm so, ultimately, the couple, the sweet,
lovely couple broke up and nineteen eighty four all they did these end and then now after Brenda goes missing. The police showed up to talk to Marianne there, like I want more information on mouth. You seem crazy livestock t exactly and she's, like I haven't heard from Malleson thumb April and at this point remember, it was like Brenda what missing on the twenty fourth of September, so it was like late September, early October or their hooker and she's like no pain. Tom and Talk term since April wrong. They also asked Marianne about what she and male sex life was together and she was, I was pretty straightforward, like he wasn't into bondage, or anything he never laid a hand on me was never violent. Her angry, he was great means an angel very even you're very, I almost had very vanilla have more of an unbearable did learn, though, that the break up was not maybe it was amicable and mouths eyes, but
Marianne was just psych following MEL everywhere. He went ok, so very Donna whose MEL's oldest dollar remembered seeing Marianne from time to time just sitting outside their house in her car watching them you don't do that all your axis, no snow of I do I mean I did like a mainly once or twice, but then I was like. I guess I got to stop doing this. I shall probably saw I got caught that as it may, access daughter saw me. Otherwise you would just kept do. Of course, Donna saw me totally getting that's fucked up. Don't do that No, so at this point the police wanted to do a formal interview with MEL, because they're like ok, like your ex I ve got a lot to say about you. Marianne has like nothing bad to say about you, but Mary and shady a let's talk to you again and this time this is like the first actual former formal interview, so.
and remember now. He has an attorney, so he entirely rickets went on to the police station Charlie Rickets, that's a pretty good name, but I really got to fail Also, Charlie Rickets used to be like a reporter of he's, a very interesting altering on commodities and rapporteur as well yeah good old chap We recognise the scoop, not that there's anything wrong with reporters. I'm just saying he was a different kind of lawyer. Knowing you know what, if you're a reporter listening, I'm sorry some some reporters Shit is already a way out of the way it is so They go to the police station there, like we're gonna, ask you some questions so all away their Melis perfectly fine wall. They were setting up Maoist perfectly fine. They hit that Fuckin taper corridor and started record everything in mail is like a man he marrow streaked.
Merrill Street. They should like. Let's give him an Oscar, accept. No. He became super emotional about Brenda's disappearance. He was like sobbing and the investigators relic carrying a pause. This you can come down yoke condom pretty quickly. Put the tears back on when they started back up again, but allow more composed this time you know. Does he have like little vapor drop, like in his pocket, where you can just Billig drooped her. No, I just start crying. I literally think he's just so psychopathic and terrifying that he can just like. He can tap into the you see things he means when he needs you can just oh and there it s nap. It is now a snap but no snaps format. No! So as he's being question, and they're just asking him regular questions about Brenda. Lik. Can you tell us again Did you do that day, like just regular ash, it he's fidgetting. moving his glasses on and off his toil and his creepy ass mustache loo and he is offering up suspects, left and right
well. If that's always, it's always will but you always get a throne antenna. wasn't me. It was these five people. Let me break out a list of people, I think it could be, and he did he said. Maybe it was Jim Rush, maybe because he is a drug problem. Did you know that at least we shall look into his drug problem or maybe it was Charlie Van Pulse, since you he never got over that divorce from Brenda. Never know how to but you know what on second thought: maybe it was Doktor Spalding he's really upset about Brenda. I think there might have been more to their relationship. I fear you know so I know I'm in here right now, but I'm pretty upsets I'm gonna go and I I just you too, have then information. Thank you. Thank you. So much they all. He also changed his story and he said which it wasn't like a huge change, but it is worth noting that he changed his story and he said that they actually hunting onto that housing development before that was the weekend before Brenda disappeared, and he just wanted to let them know in case they looked into that, oh because,
co thorough. I am and truthful and very honest, actually reviewed. My notes that I read from, and I realized that was stated wrong. While walls I find out that MEL rights Shit, don't like a literally writes everything down like everything, because he knows he's going to have to cover your shit. All the time and he's just a psychopath because he knows he does shitt wrong all the time so he's like. I should probably always have my stuff covered exactly so Tom Schaefer Brenda's brother remember we talked about, he was the one that was married to Linda, who leaked was trying to help run. To get out of this. He agreed to meet MEL on multiple occasions wearing wire just to see if he could, just, I don't think they thought he would. They were going to get anything a confession, but they just needed more yeah, like maybe like a slip out of anything yet anything else, and they did. They got a few that ghoul so Tom actually had gone out himself to wear Brenda's car was found the gun the highway. He went out one Saturday night around that
I'm that she was supposed to have lost been seen and he was like. I just don't buy that she was kidnapped on this highway like eleven thirty my leg on a Saturday and if you think about even around here, Saturday night at eleven thirty, the highways so pretty bustling like there's no traffic, but there is still plenty of cars. Going by near and he noticed on this particular highway. There was plenty of cars going by. He was like somebody would have seen something. Yes, I think someone at somebody would have seen something strange exactly so he tells Meliboeus one night when they're out the diner in his mail is like visibly shake he's like you went out there like you, were there and he's like? Will you I like I went out there like last week, oh, oh, oh, oh, I thought you might like. You were out there that specific Saturday I was like worried for you
my whole worried for you worried for you. Oh ok. Meanwhile, you just thought that he saw something. That's what I am hearing Bow Thomas. I know you're done my went out there afterwards to see what I could find. So I don't know how Tom sat through these meetings male and neither did the FBI they were, like. I don't know higher than just punch that dude in the face for what he says so clearly the guy so clearly the guy, and also just this shit that he says it's just so aggravating so one night, there's no together after an after TAT, Tom, he just didn't, know how he was gonna live the rest of his life without Brenda Help. Please, like you're talking our brother brother now you're going to live your life like what about her brother and it's like we know you man might so after sitting, there tell him that he pulls out a list out of his pocket and this list has Brenda's assets, all of her assets and everything they were worth and he had everything written down. Tom was extant
see knew how much every that he knew of the worth of literally everything what she had an all her accounts, which he had ensured her jewellery for he had totals for the firs that she had liquor fur coats. She had a couple any also knew. He also knew that she had been making payments on this grandfather work that she really wanted. They had found, it might Tennessee and she like loved it, so she was making payments on it. He knew what that was worth and he not only knew the values of everything He also knew Brenda wanted everything to go to work like he was acting like this was a will which, while member Brenda disappeared out of nowhere said this was not a will while gap and of course he was I I just want to see everything go to who she would have wanted to go to and Thomson. yeah she, we don't know that she's dead, you also lay gonna to say they haven't even discovered that she's been killed, the exact and that's a problem so he's
in their time Tom this numbs like. I cannot believe that my serving on for a few weeks and your basically reading her well, some you killed her Blake. You ve killed her wake me, don't figuratively, and where he had said to the older sister I just know she's dead. That's when Linda was like. Oh, I just know that you did it then so intensely either way? The last thing I'd be thinking of its assets, no, but obviously leg up when you think of malware, like, of course he was thinking of the assets, so he tells He tells Tom. You know she wanted the jewellery and I think one of the first to go to me. So if, if we don't find her unhappy to take that from the life and sure o you are I'll, take that off your hands. Oh that's a nice like, what's he so helpful? What and then, as after he did all that he's like and by the way I think Van PAL has something to do with this. I think I think we're going compete in the beginning he went by PETE. Nigeria he's like. I think the police need to be looking into him a lot more of a sudden, if, like us
I got the guy in its like, ok, now and actually oh thank you, Charlie Van. They did look in terms of their elect. You know he was her ex husband. He actually, had an alibi for the night. Brenda went missing, he was working at the police department. Oh there's a lot of people. There is prey decent ever he was working there until closed him at night, and then right after that, he went to his and job as a security guard where he worked until it six in the morning, so he was literally covered that entire in India entire night. I mean it They were unable to like make sure that he was like in his car, and there is no witnesses saying he was sitting. It is like a security job carbon there like that's, that's a pretty tight alibi. I'd definitely is nothing. There few room for that, yet there safely home, but they were like he's, not argue that it is.
checked out the alibi and timestamps checked out for Dr Spalding, because Dr Spalding was like I was actually in Tennessee the night that Brenda went missing. I think his daughter was like in a horse show if she was riding horse or something, and he had stayed in a hotel there, so they that checked out Please later, and then they checked into Jim Rush, the billboards sweetheart. Yes Jim, he was the only one who didn't have an air tight alibi. Oh Jim, he had just been at home, but at least he was there to take that member Bessie only got Essie called like four in the morning. Oh yeah, he was there to take that phone call, so it was like I feel like that, would have been weird and they really We just we know that our guys Malaga yeah, so they did keep Jim on the list as a potential aspect, but they really didn't think he had anything to do here. I mean it's good that they kept them on the list. whereas, if you can like Le Monnier around that alibis, like we can't say he wasn't exactly and so I don't know we mentioned number one. There was for
jurisdictions on this case. Others for separate police department and the FBI, but I have to say they didn't really fuck anything up. It seemed lying wow that, actually very rare. Look I think that he does. I think, because the FBI was brought in so early. May me that's lie. Maybe they were able to like kind of cohesively, get everybody together right, usually when it's even just to Eurostat. shins. It's like kid made o master. Yet we ve seen how many times have we see I've seen a million times, but they did a good job. So yada yada yada, those all those people have alibis. Also, I'm just going to say this now cuz. I didn't really know where to fit this in later, Jim ends up dying. no, I think he died like right before they found Brenda's body of arm. He was like a lot of heart problems or that's sad, and when he died they actually took dna from him and he was rolled out as I suspect so he had absolutely nothing to do, though. That sucks, though, So sad and I know he died like still being like a person of interest, at least a person of it
for us and not know he was not knowing no in love tat. I like they remember, they were gonna, start things by elegant and not knowing if she was alive or not arise that area and we found he had no idea. That's really, sir, and I had member like Brenda, was upset but he was a drinker. I think he was a drinker before and then I think after she disappeared, I continued it and probably did so more me, I'm sure that's sad and his son, so they go back to check on Brenda's car, which is now like breast. been processed as evidence, and they notice that her driver see was pushed all like super super back like somebody very tall, have been driving her car. I remember she was five hundred and thirty, so they put somebody in the car that was exactly five three. She couldn't even reach the brake pedal, but y'all. extends out more than the ghastly athlete now notice does not work and I don't know your member on the tyre was fly. on her garden, so they found out that there have been calls because by a nail, but the nail
been previously there put into the tire run over and the tyre had slowly been loose, air. So that was out something that was, I punctured right then, and there they said I that the tire could have been losing air for like either a hundred telling a thousand mile thou and that they went for after it had been part, and it was just like, and it was just the pressure but sitting there exactly so they're like things are weird with her car like she would have been able to drive this herself. No accept It was clearly in that car somebody another inherent car and then they kind of figured that the break in might have happened after it had been placed there like. They don't think it was the stage that way they think somebody actually tried to break into it, but I don't make sense. I dont think her body was ever there actually, it wasn't. I can tell you I don't think so: the family was trying to get any information anywhere. They could Tom inland actually travelled to Tennessee. Were Brenda had bought that clock just a kind of talk to the guy and hang up posters.
Around. There could well she's been here she doing stuff and the so Tom is talking to the guy about the clock and he actually knew how much Brenda loves the clock, so he continued to make the payments on it. Just in case she ever came back that she would still have the clock. The sweetest thing I've ever heard, like brother brother, her brothers are like going to make you cry at all times her up a story on em, so he talks the guy that Sole Brenda the clock in this case, like oh yeah, that guy that was with her, was a total, not a screwball. I couldn't talk tierces, Sir, he would dominate. I could to him, and nobody else. Oh so they're like thinks about that clock with mounting ding ding ding Ding Ding, who does that sound like some
all these tips or rolling in everyone's like no. I saw Brenda here at that time. No, no. I saw her here, of course, and like waitresses were like, I served her last night and she looked to stress, positive images and lay everybody was lying, balancing, of course, which is frustrating and it was making an already challenging investigation even more challenging. Of course, a psychic came through cause that always happens with these big polices, throw psychic, you always MT at what they say and I'm getting mounted gaily. Do they said that Brenda been murdered and was in a plastic bag and fifty five gallon drums that was buried in some place that was wet, so divers had been searching for Brenda's body. They researching the Ohio. Ohio River for hours and hours and days like now. I think it is eighty hours total and they couldn't come up with anything cause. She wasn't in the affrighted but one day they were diving, pretty close to us.
We're MEL was known to take his boat fishing and they came across a fifty five gallon bag. With holes in it in a plastic bag, inside of it, oh, you mean it Yes, oh what did I say out of it? I found no fifty five gallon drum and We are back in school, which is exactly what the cycle, said- and it was in a spot where MEL public was known to fish- alright psychic, you know why they and they were like. Oh, like this must be Brenda. They opened up empty, but How weird like how we orders not coincidence, like its work, Dick please exactly measurements in a spot where MEL was known to be yeah, that's weird! Unless you put it there herself the psychic, which a rhythm salon. Work to get levelling we'll. I don't think she did, but that's crazy bananas, the police they had to keep getting more information because there
This investigation was so challenging because, like they knew that MEL did it, but they there's nothing to get him. I just couldn't pendant on there's no from there's no body so that the things ten times harder, always there's. No, nothing yeah! There's nothing. Right now was inviting you to come in for your dinner, favorites after four p m and earn two times the rewards on your purchase, build your perfect rigour in fries organic wish big possible poor guy your favorite Hobbes salads in more. At your next reward twice as fast, By shopping, your dinner favorites after four p m while rewards members earn two times. The rewards now give June thirtieth get the word Why apple joined today.
Streaming only on paper. A new regional comic me in a punk bank, we are leaving palms, confused mixed hash. Anthems saw a girl power repute, turnover from where we are the reports, all sorts dreaming that only a bigger, but what there is is all these people that they keep talking to and they keep connecting MEL and Marianne together Marianne showing that lot. Lady, that's what walked Joyce Smallwood, Brenda's friend, who had actually set her up with me. In the first place we talked about her oh yeah. I went to a hairdresser named Lauren and Lord. Was also MEL's, hairdresser and also Marianne hairdresser? All we got a toxic Lauren We deal Oak Laurent on investigators and she knew for a fact. Are you ready?
tat. None! I don't I'm ready many out, I just go in and I was very ready thy ready causes. Come. Are you ready for this jelly? Are you guys ready money? Now? Ok, sorry took me a second Many men had been having sex with Marianne, the entire time that he was dating. Brenda rose, entire too. Well, that's really grow smell, really gross. Tell em Marianne. Also like. How are you going to do Brenda like that, she's, beautiful and The fall in Bulgaria is Twat lady. How dare you and just and also Marianne gets himself respect here. That's the other thing it's like she was constantly follow, human heads like Morgan, until later. She knew he was with Brenda yeah that's grow six like score. Some policy of dumpy doing gross Lauren had a lot to say. She also told them just how it Es Marian will still was with now, so remember they dont MEL's daughter had said, like I saw her outside the house. That was when they first broke up and nineteen. Eighty four ok
This is ninety me denying that he's dating Brenda HEAT she Marianna still wallowing him everywhere, girl everywhere. She drive up to that and also you're telling your hair dresser this, like I'm a hairdresser, I've been told them, crazy shit blows. Gonna say when you were like the hairdresser had all the shit I was gonna be like the hairdresser always has a hairdresser, of course, but line always count on a hairdresser. To tell you, the hocker, I've been told some crazy shit. Like I do said, I've never been told anything like this. My client told me that they were driving to them. Demands as house and like watching him in his new gal. I Billig ha ha ha but you don't know how long Lorn has been a hairdresser that she could be one of those seasoned vets that hears like murder, confessions. Shit and is just like my rats, annexes, like like in confessional at church Can you imagine if I got a murder confession
you never know forty years down the road you could I now I will get real comfy with their hairdressers. I want that to happen. I've been told some while I should do in Uppsala some stuff that I am that's right in the beginning of your career. I now think about a decade later. Oh I got told crazy shit and hear school here, so the who knows worn could be one of those that just here's at all. Now she might Will she had some advice for Marianne Shoes like you're, not love your obsessed, yeah, you gotta, stop very different, different love and obsession or two everything's water movie, with the answer to it. The answer was the one he loved that other lady obsess Hence the title was obsessed that blonde girl died on her name. I knew her name, but I can't remember it. It is a matter cause she's, the crappy lunch. The drought, lady. She is that nobody cares about the two ladys name and its true. You know so she's, like Europe Thus you you got it shall stop in museums like no, so she kept going
different clogged up like if she's, like, also that there is a little too long. Can you got up. She got completely different clubs and bars just to watch him, and she just she kept going And they looked more into Marion's past and they saw Marianne Nano, like she was shaded character when they first looked in, then they did a double lookin. who actually warrants out for Mary Ann arrest. That is the least shocking thing. I've heard all year on this file, warrants out for this girl's arrest because he had been writing bad checks at all. It that's like hand in hand It's also just the Linas thing to get legal warning warrants always like when they're doing this kind of stuff- and you like, while your shady or scary, stand to be almost a newly back anemic edge of rope. Bad checks fun, it's always in there somewhere in the history. I know a lady that rights lot about China and there they usually escalates from their makes sense self where'd. She been running these badge
swear. K Mart is running theme in the storm key wrong about checked Kmart for something I don't have the exact amount, but it was like twenty bucks, wow you're reading about check for twenty dollars like as it worth it, and I think there was only one two or three bad checks that she wrote in. None of the amounts were over, like none of them he did, for they were all significant at all. No, so it's like why that if it doesn't feel more fit for the consequences that are gonna hate you at all, like what do you mean? She didn't have any kids right now. So what could really worth that? You are buying like formula for your child and you were like you know what consequences be damned right. This is, she was mine, like a shower curtain came out and she had the debit funds haven't hit. So what's I argued that shower garden, I guess while so, but that I say so a lot of I'm sorry for it. I knew too don't, but so that's what the pulled the police were like. This is what we can get her on like we can hold her on yak, as its grip
and keep her infra longer so they're like we're, gonna go out there and we're gonna go question her again, and actually she agreed to do a polygraph. Even though can use it in court. There are pretty happy because she flunks the shit out of the polygraph to us, and I think that's always just like a good, because I have said before that. It's, like you, know about as useful as a hot dog on a trench co, but it's a nice little jumping off point looks like you get a little nervous. So one is our plan on that we can go from Here is a psychological game endlessly yeah. This polygraph was just about the bad checks that she had written. It wasn't just about came our horses. We ask and are things like so do you know anything about Brenda, shavers disappearance that you're not telling us and she was like NOME and Therein- law. I never liked looks like this needle saying something different, and I think this needle is spinning a tale. Jumpin jump and jumped I've been jump, and then it was jump and jump and back to be
I know I know I rose, I leave all roads we'd beyond the air, so she takes this polygraph us where she does lies and lies and lies and she's like after its dangers like I want leave that we, of course- and there, like you, know what we don't want to jump and jumping to quickly. So they let her go next, can't hold are technically they could of because they had the warrant out for her. I'd forgotten that they had, but they were like it's too soon to use that like we got it, we got a key year you getting well. Let us hear as your card that you throw at the end. If I keep it causes a channel chest, I will be well. so long ago go and she before she went, she made a couple phone calls and they were like. Oh she, one hundred percent fuckin called MEL and was oh yeah, thereon to us so yeah you're, pretty sure they knew Fairfax than it was so they drop Maria Mary Ellen Marianna. They off. Oh, my god, you're right now, you gotta they drop Buryin, Oscar drop and roll get tuck in real life
are the arch. Now they drop Marian offer the house where she was alive in baby sitter. I just want you to stow that in your fuckin memory that this lady is in charge of children that horrifies main ways. I can explain just wait, but they decide their. They drop off a they're gonna keep tabs on her, though not fucking go anywhere Pollyanna Much America me too, I got my eyes on you. Yeah, that's a good song, Watchin Mary! Maybe it is they drop off. They watch her. It's great guess. You fuckin shows up together walkin in the rain, taken a nice romantic locked out in the rain, no straight up walking in the rain. Oh, like a legit like were in five Lydia. Yes, ok except clear, I'm gonna, say MEL and Mary S walking in the rain to go. I got it. Dignity feather link, could Marianne be talking to him about and what could well be scaring her into not saying what could this cinematic seen tell Us Cinematic Marian was cracking,
They knew that's why she was meeting with now lower your leg. she's losing her shit she's trying to be like we gotta, go, tell them thereon to us, they're closing and I'm scared. What are you doing? Her she'd is being held together by very fragile webs of fabric, to become You start like poke and had it. This isn't like all about checks, just get shredded, reassuring earth invested and hold them together. So they're, like you, know, we were holding this earlier today, closer chats, but it's getting hot near fell with they are. I stood her right then there in that Romantic free rein, that's great, and this sounds like a move. Mary film no are mouselike, just cool. Mary. You don't have to We very much like they're, both reaching free, other as the rain pelts down on their disgusting face. You would think that when you know that Melick tripped her while they were hand covering her just to make it easier to zero, I hate you. I hate that I involved you in this. The don't tell them shit, but don't talk money. I built shut up he's also like
cooperate with them, but don't tell them anything going library with the police, but don't tell them ship light so Marianne is arrested right then, and there they Booker on five outstanding warrants than she had an she's like. I want an attorney, and there like we figured. This is like you know what that's probably a good move, as probably Goodwood mood it isn't mood is over it. Very much a mood dead like an attorney for other mood, I'm your brother was able to get her an attorney its jack, the detail. I hope I'm saying that right, if you, if you're not, that should be his name ethical s. Name, I'm com Jack has been TAT, was heard to say a big thing: IRAN and its not whatever the stories. Great, don't yell at me for who Jack Father. This was gonna, be pretty cut and dried case he's like ok, like bad checks. I can do that. I'm Jack I'm drowning object, but it all I can do with boy was Jackie boy around
no Jaipur exerted Arrayment the next day and she got sentence till a fine and some pearl time. I don't even bother Odeon to launch it. Who gives a shit, not me, But what I do give a shit about is that an FBI age stop demure Yemen Jack in the hall of the court house, and they were like hey I'm. We want bring you back in for questioning and now we're with that, the fish, so will the four by Sir Sir Jack is like what the fuck, like one the F b? I want to talk to her about it. Twenty dollar Kmart bad check. All poor jack he's like who all sadly is like no ready? Ah, was ready for this Charlie, how I know it keeps the union and its natural, it is its natural in our strategy is a very dynamic and he's like yeah well. This is not good. So he's like hey girl. What haven't you told,
me too, on spill benches ivy ass, I used to date. This guy has a girlfriend is missing and I have nothing to do with a black people. Think that I have something to do with an iron, nothing. I don't know anything at all, but MEL. While I love him in his leg, so annoying you know how that is ray. It's like you know what happens on a Friday after work and nearest tired, and you don't want to deal with that. Everybody understands this is just one of those things in life here. That's why I didn't tell you it essentially dealing with it. Today. It's no big deal. I had plans to go to Kmart his right, a cheque for fifteen minutes after fifteen dollars, because I just really like TAT Pillar yeah and he is like a fuck. What have I got myself into, but more that's going on. Let's go! Let's get back to Mount whatever. I gotta do it. I've been dying to know what an austrian Melville Dayton around and live in his life oh he's out on the town. In fact, mellowed been dating people again, just six weeks after Brenda had gone missing. You know he's so upset
so upset the shoulder to cry on, and he actually like, spends that tail for himself and people by that which of our. Still upset about to this day here, because you know why, because come on this a few weeks, there are some stops, I'm so upset to dissident, HU, this defence. The seventy surfeit upset about this may have everyone else was affected. Obviously terribly Brenda's family for one, but also Doktor Spalding, who choose to work for all doctors balding was becoming increasingly paranoid any feared that MEL was going to come after him because remember he, like he told the police. he reached anyhow, he threw his name in the ring right. He was scared, but he literally ran drills in the office where, like he was Well, it's gonna break in what are we going to do? I kind of love that, like I feel bad, that he was I'd like good on him. I feel, like that's a specific type of brain that works. That way, that's like it's like when you, when I go to the movies and we're like April before the previous, where we go and like that's a smart like that
you know what you're looking at the situation, you're saying he's a crazy person here, been spew and all this stuff about me, things could get crazy and even if they dont at least were prepared its Taipei preparation- and I respect that Anna, here for us too, he's like what happened so member Joyce Smallwood, who set them up she worked at the office, so she still working there and he heard carrion eight millimetre. and her desk ways increase Melville to comment. Yeah do together He was carrying a gun himself and they were prepared to protect themselves. Should anything happen, he is literally like doing like going in taking like target we're out. Eichelberger leg target practice, yeah target shooting you do not do that. Angry she's gonna target me up no guns. He was also this. This is like the super paranoid part that just sad he was constantly hearing footsteps by now constantly calling the Police- to report like potential break ins when there is actually no breakin, ol man and
like that he was so invested in the case, and he he just wanted to see justice so badly that he set up a reward fund himself for any information on Brenda's case Doktor Spalding. I love him so long, all MA, am he just when he just wanted steps like that's the thing, so he cared so much about cutting information that he actually asked the police like what would happen to me if I ever sent a letter to now and they were like wall like what are you gonna say letter and he read the letter to them in their alike doktor? Don't do that because we're gonna have to put you in jail and you're gonna have to pay a fine? Oh no, and he was like. I really don't want pay a fine, but, like I'd, be finding jail time because I could use the rest. I I get that I feel like you do. Have the final word as someone who is tired right now, I'm like yeah, I could use the producer has, and they really can't don't send a letter and using Google and they sent a letter, of course, even physical,
Russia, food who letter was not written from scalding, but instead a Floridians drugs. Lord, who was going to send Cubans after MEL, if MEL did not give up information at all, like the formation that he had about Brenda. While that's that's a lot, it's very intense, and that was a very brief summary if I would like to know more about that, you should read the book double jeopardy by Bob Hill. While thank you, whose balding have a letter sent from Florida to make it look real, but MEL figured it out somehow and each pressed charges for terror, mystic, threatening. Because unfortunately it is unfortunately the is it is it all worked out. Don't worry, I hope so Doktor Spalding in the meantime, checked himself into a psychiatric hospital because he was just like. Really having a tough guy. He was using he had shrunk, oh yeah, and he was
he went into space for year it. I think he did essential. Eighty technically Dave. He was like a shell of himself and all he just one in information about Brenda, because I think he ends up saying that, because everybody's like, why did he loved brightness? How much of that kind of weird? But I think she was like a daughter to him. He highly like. I think people are being bitchy about it. I can understand, I mean I get it but you know what, if something was going on whatever you want, you want your boss to care about you that much now I would hope I would want my boss what your kind of my boy also, you refer. Yeah anyways Spalding stayed in the hospital for a month and he was diagnosed of so loud. Tat was should I say he was turning Knowst as by Paul. And he had manic depression. No, what we see God help he didn't. He said in the hospital for a month, and I already said that while he was in the hospital MEL was weighing has options of also
of course, member. He already press charges for the terrorist stick threats now he's like I could do a civil suit, and I could definitely when that and then I would be able to pay Marianne hush money. Oh yeah sow he's like weirdly cunning he's so cunning. Like I don't love, I hate it. I hate when they're like kind of smarten. Either way it's like all israeli shitty during these economically turbulent times, everyone is looking for a way to feel more financially secure so of yours so needlessly throwing money every month that high interest credit card debt its time, but you checked out sky up star- is the revolutionary online lending platform that knows you're more than just a credit score and now is the time to find out how low you're upstate were sorry, hello, gonna go
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One of the other lawyers there's a lot of lawyers at trials IA and while mouth was on the sand, explaining how hurt he was by Brenda's disappearance and how it had ruined him. Scotches felt that there is something not write about this dude and he was like. I got a feeling I want to do more and then the Brenner shape Brenda Shapers case actually ended up on his desk. Oh so he got an ideal, and this happened. These like to go talk to Charlie Rickets on good old Charley. Rickety always gotta go talk to Charlie got. The idea was to get a grand jury investigation going where they could put no on the stand, and Scott was hoping that he would somehow be able to trip MEL up or the jury would kind of like feel the same as he did slime velvet is the slime bell that is now. You know that slimy bell that smell what so Scots idea,
He said he sold the idea Ricketts it as a way for MEL to clear his name. He's like I believe he like totally like schmooze the Skytel yeah he's like oh yeah. I think he's you do innocent and I think this is a great way for him to prove it and Charlie Reckitt's is like, I think, you're right. Thank you for caring about my clients, allowed Challis reigned. Scots like I care I care so much hidden, In fact he was like, while he testified really well during the case against Doktor Spalding. So that's why it's can be good for him, but he had plans to take meltdown, understand and get him to crack and then, if he didn't get another crack, he was like. I have a plan to get Marianne to testify so that I can heard a fucking track, because that ladies got crack he's like I'd really just like an omelet two hundred really would and crack she fucking did I'm not shocked now. Unfortunately, did a really good job of making himself look like a victim while he was on the stand I figured just like in the small in case he pushed the tale forward that he was.
Broken man who was financially and emotionally ruined a broken man. I'm broke and Michel Amazon and when he was asked about a sexual relationship with Marianne. He said you just need a companionship after Brenda was gone before make myself feel better world into the doktor prescribed groups after justify you did this, like Super big press conference outside the courthouse that he said, and I quote I hope in some way this will help the investigative officers to redirect their case in an effort to try to make to find my fiance and find out what happened and who was involved. It's not don't worry, no, that's what I have to say to you should stay in: it's not going to leave the mouse where it lay above, and so he was like I'm not worried, but he was worried. He was that Marianne was Mary on the stand. Oh yeah, and a couple weeks before she was supposed to get on the stand here. Actually basically overdose t mix too much too much vodka with volume any ended up in the hospital.
so the investigators were like. Was this a suicide attempt? Now? I don't really think it was a suicide attempts, because I think he's too vain to kill himself here and so tat. They like those people. Typically they It's pretty off the cuff, for them are like really out of the normal in these two. I really don't know. you start you copy to do here is to cocky with this. He thinks he's gonna get away with this. He does not think he's. Gonna be all right. I think he thought he was in full control, but I think he knew the holds that he had on me began to any didn't think she would turn I am, but he was worried about a stolen. I make sense by what is but there is also a very stupid mistake to make because it makes them look guilty. Exact sounds like I don't know. Also. Maybe he just did that because maybe he was stressed- and I took some volume and he is walking into places Holden like big old things of alcohol. So maybe that's just a coincidence, thats what I I think it was an accident. I don't think that was intangibly annul. I don't think he was trying to get. You know
please suicide and I don't think he did it ended. Do within right and shouted related complete it. I think I was just. He was drinking politics, Valeo, many pretty fucked it up exactly. I agree with that. So to make himself feel better MEL joined a church and he got himself baptized all right that fixes everything. Of course it does. Some of the people in the church were but were absolutely horrified and tat. They were like actually mad because they felt like he was making a mockery of their religion when he was disease literally being like ok, dunk me in this holy water. Now everything's fine and I didn't do it right leg with. I am no. What is it absolved of my Sunday, I'm here from the ranks of Russia, so he became close to one woman who later came forward and told investigators that he called her one night to talk to her about their faith, and this is what he said to her. He basically said hypothetically, let's
that I did kill Brenda cheaper. Wouldn't this state shall action of the state do what God has done in just forgive? and the lady was like, you wouldn't that be nice, but then there would be no need for jail, because everybody would just turned her religion and confess their sins over and over again and like we just have could criminals running around the time yeah she was like that, doesn't make any and since she was like, if you did, kill her then here on earth, you need to face your punishment and then maybe God will forgive you like he should, You face your punishment, but if you're lying than your sins are not completely absolved yeah and she was, she said that MEL would constantly call her over and over again and Billy why're. You calling me backlog loud and clear that all if he was
really interested in this lady, but that was the last time she ever talk to him cause. She was like you know where she was like if you say like what, if I hypothetically, killed this person, then I'm a suspect in the murder case, for you properly killed them as your oh Jane. Before that's a thing exactly so Melina was OJ before he was I'll drive you will, but before Roger was Oda and then, like other p, on the church supported Malin. They couldn't believe that this was a man capable of murder, so it kind of it also like divided the church community that he was involve young people who he was. He was able to pull the, though you know that, what's it called they'll over their eyes, because those with carbon out from under them like what have? What is appalling, he's born something Poland Sanchez battles pressure. There is the people who he was able to do that you like being charming, I'm sure and be very lake sympathetic and my right, played on all that. Would then it's the people that are like actually looking at it through like clear eyes than Reich right now, exactly
like he's. Our religion is like an escape to murder. Some, yeah, he sighed as like a safety net. The exact and he was going to like church events like the singles events that the churchyard and people were mixes. Scissahs disgusting, like get out of here, you killed your fiance like no one wants that you what word actually pretty afraid of you but that was all going on Marianne. She got understand what I'm ready and she fucking blue it- oh she's, canaries that she does she started up. Fine cool com collected leaves Cumber fuel coming out. All the sea act at all of it, but when scar cogs asked her, this is what he asked her. If she fucking loses it, can you just described Brenda Schaefer to the jury? I see why she lost it.
that's a very aggressive questions, so she said well, I only saw her that one time with male at a bar and Scott was like. Ok. Can you describe her from the last occasion or the last time you saw her the last time you saw her picture what she's thinking? Oh obviously, remember the last time she fucking saw Brenda, which was not at that ran a bar with now and she literally hopped off the standard was like I've stocks, my attorney, because I ass. I know- and I know really understand this, but I think how grand jury investigations work is not like your attorney like if you're testifying has to be in the house away like it's out of the grand jury and the person data vying. I thank sense, so she and out into Holly and got to abstract. My lawyer like, I need ass, my lawyer, if I can explain, seeing her being murdered or if that will get me in trouble, don't one SEC. So Jack was like issue. She runs out their injects like ok, look, what's the issue and Marion's like will, they asked me to send to describe Brenda and Jack was like ok
didn't do you know what those words we regret and at that point it was was slowly slowly becoming evident, but at this point like real evidence that Mary, I knew a lot more than she was saying to anybody, including him. Absolutely anything. Represent you I mean You know everything you need to Vienna like cause that time than help you were so He went back on the stand and she just said that Brenda had medium length, Brown, her, that's all she said and Scott why'd you get so upset. When I asked you to describe Brenda like what what can you explain to us what happened and she's I just don't know how to describe her. Will you just did the bright exactly- and it was real easy so after her slip up on the stand, the FBI, Scott Cox and even Jack, her own fucking attorney agreed that, like I said she knew more than she was sent yeah. So they arranged and off the record meeting
and they kept going back and forth. During the meeting with Marianne, she was staying quiet but its they could tell. She had something to say: yeah she was quiet, but they can they Body language. They know the way you answer a question. They know when you're fuckin holding withholding keep chipping away so Scott finally tells her. If we find out something- and it's not from you like you, didn't tell us, and it involves you or this order in connection with each other. You're gonna get the electric chair good, I'm glad there just like we're going hell. You know who that is an amateur look. He was a u like. If this happens, you're gonna die when, like we'll get the death penalty now, soap just sit with that. If you walk tail just now and not when she really started to look freaked out, obviously- and she was I just take a break and they were like a. He asked: stir sweetie baby. What is it, but you think, sweet, honey, baby, sweetie pie, honeybee sweep. I take all the time Unita, so they broke off for a little bit and she's talking to her at her name, Jack and he's like me,
I if you know something- you need to tell me- and then maybe you tell me, I can somehow work out a deal for you net, so she's that she heard that she would get a deal and she was like. Ok I'll talk of you know what should I said it so he gives she gives him some information and he goes back to the FBI and the agency everybody and they go back and forth. They Marianne finally breaks down and goes suppose. I know where she is buried. O soup rose. I know where she's very while you ve. Had that fucking information for how long why it had been. We don't even know that she's dead at this point, no it's a deplorable, I know where loomed will yeah, but there were we to have a body not quickly. We don't like blood evidence or anything nuff. They have no evidence and now she's like one. If I could and she's, ok
Let's keep it it's like suppose I know she's buried. Are we wouldn't want that information? well now. I just don't tell us that at last signal way come on give us and that we can use Marian check as I'd mother fucker. I thought this was just bad Chirac's he's like oh shit. Please can we were crowded deal somehow even the link. I don't want to be like help women Satan, very over my head, the so Marianne came comes back, tells him everything she said on that. Men had been calling her up and saying this. So this is everything that happened. Melvin. Calling Europe saying he wanted to do a sex therapy workshop with Brenda and he needed Marion's help. Oh Kosovo trigger warning yeah So she said that his plan had was an entire plan of torture, rape and he planned to kill Brenda, but Mary had been in the kitchen. died. So she did engineer Junior fine Marianne, but you did say that she took photos of the assault, but that MEL had them. So
Oh, she told them that she helped MEL dispose of burned. His body in the woods bind her house membership five acres of land ocean, but she doesn't lived there anymore. She got apartment like she sold the house, you shouldn't get along with the fuckin landlady, because she's a twat lady, obviously not the landlady Marian and she said that she could even lead them to run this body. If they cut her a deal and may agreed, they agreed to cut a deal because they thought that she had just like really helped in burying the body. So they consider that tampering with evidence and she would only get, I think, one to five years for tampering with evident by its class de felony fuck you up. So that's good, so they would sudden remember. This is all technically off the record and they needed to know more. So they didn't really have a choice here like they were like. We have to give her this deal because we have MEL is the one that we want to get in. Somebody said something like you got it,
like take the small devil, so you can get to the big idea which- it's a bad, so ass Mariana, she would be able to wear a wire and talk to mail and maybe get him over to her apartment to like confess, and they were going to set up a sting basically, and this would be awesome, Keziah link we were, we know, really give a shit about Marianne. So it's like yeah go in there and find out the errand and to give a shit about Marianne. She told them like yet that should be easy, because men had been calling her for months every single day at four to check it on her see who she had talked to and see what they had talked about every single day, so they had to rush to cut Marian the steel like on paper. They had to get her to her apartment, get her whole place, wired get her wired like carefully and they had to get her back to her apartment in time. To get this four o clock phone call, or else MEL was gonna dupes
crazy, F and bike find out, probably so they made her. The deal like I said tampering with evidence and if she was found guilty should get one hundred and twenty five years like I said so they got to the apartment. They get. The whole place bugs they have officers dressed as workers for the apartment building, which I thought was so cool and they're ready to strike when Mal shows up after basically girl, like you got to get him met the murder. Somehow on the farm yeah they coached her. They were like make sure you say Brenda's name on it like tell me all that their selling the land where we buried Brenda like again, say her name say where we buried her and electricity. Ask him if he can come over, because she really needs to talk to him and she's worried that they're gonna get caught soon. Marianne is apparently uncomfortable and the worst fucking person to wire, but in surprise me because she didn't get anything done on that call that they had asked her. She didn't even say Brenda's name, one time on the phone call. Could she knows what she did She knows what she did: a hundred percent and the phone
all barely lasted even five minutes, because MEL honestly outsmarted the whole thing. He just didn't trust and he was too smart to get over the phone on which I sit here and He told Marriott if you want to talk to me I'll, meet you at the ice cream shop, which was their usual meeting spot, and if you want to find out what they talked about at the ice cream shop, you're going to have to listen to part break you motherfucker holyshit. Isn't this all crazy? This is insane she's like I helped dispose of the body, and I took pictures and they're like okay. Well, I guess we'll just give you tampering with evidence, one hundred and twenty five years, one hundred and twenty five years and we're going to talk about in part three and Marianne on the stand. Again, be Tita when she does hopped off of the stand here. We're gonna talk about how MEL got away with murder essentially means we're gonna talk about how Karma as a bitch and runs full circle and
maybe you'll be happy in the end I was so. I need a good ending here has so far these jack holes are really just run around. Do whatever they wanted to see me off. They really are it's making me mad, so I am campaigning for primary and then it is like Marian just told them to like he called me. He said he was like planning to torture, rape and murder this woman. So I went to it He added that enough the link. That alone is enough to be like you're in accomplice to earn a psychopath and we need to put you away forever and they were like. I think we should just cut the deal. I get why they wanted yeah. I mean it's ifs, buts, in a roundabout way. You're like ok, I get that we have to do the small to get to the bigger me can't make an omelette without crack and a few months, and I think she was the small thing
together the two of them she. Why are they made the big I tax at the sea this morning? It's it's a Carl Homolka situate evaluations. She acts like so innocent gets the deal and she gets the fucking car the only real over the devil, just the smart up or the kind of small them. So yeah We also need to shout out some patriarch, Kronos normally do this year we do book. I got a capable marker, so tonight we're gonna. Thank colleagues spite Kelly Inspite, I think that's ice Erle. Thank you so much. I think you and then next we're going to thank Adrian Johnson, Adrian Johnson. Thank you so much
Rate then we are going to bank Kristen Davis, Kristen Davis. Thank you is in Davis I'll. Why and then I think it's cayley could be Kelly jogger. Thank you, Kelly, Cayley, your girl. We appreciate you think so much appreciate you so much. You know who else we appreciate Caitlin Belay Kalen Boom as a cool out you so much. thank you- JAMA Doble, Gemma, Doble you're, so nobody who are noble. Thank you so much. I love you with my whole entire heart. Next, we are going to think Carol reap Carol Review. The bird You reap what you Carol, so you do justice, a Labour Burke's. I want to thank you and apologise if I said your last name wrong. Thank you so much a great. I love you your eyes. Then we have Alley nights alley night like and it's not like night time
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