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my casket, also former prosecutor, which will come in handy. This one is going through a lot of late cases also NBC Music, MSNBC National Affairs analyse and Stan executive producer of show times the circus, John Highland, also Pulitzer Prize Winning columnists and associate editor of the washing in Post, Eugene Robinson Good, have all of you here. We have a lot of legal stories in the news this morning. Let's start with Vince resting in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse NBC News responded, gave goody areas. Has details he's in Canosa Wisconsin ready for the jury to come? Red Mouse homicide trial is barely toward its conclusion. We would rest his defence team resting its case after use for sex video, Analyse, testified less than three seconds elapse between when a protest or fired a shot into the air and written house. First open fire with his error, fifteen style rifle killing Joseph Rosen.

I didn't do anything wrong. I defended myself the now eighteen year old bases, six charges, including intentional homicide after shooting and killing two men and wounding another during last summer's protests in canosa problem. The shooting of Jacob Weight is emotional. Testimony backed up by another eyewitness today recorded video. That night testified that Rosen Bomb was pushing dumpster, that fire into police vehicles as first firearm. Those russian law is already charging cow from behind attempts to throw a bag at him and Rosen Bomb is lunching towards him very clearly. Fire? Simply no ruling yet on the defence teams request for a mistrial after the judge vanished the prosecutor for out of bounds, questioning the prosecutor button heads with the judge again exactly what video and

Scots to say, which, as I say, your honor yesterday, I was too tired of your ire or disregarded yours today. Disregarding your work out here, everyday Jacob Lakes Uncle just as he did not think which it has no testimony was genuine, what we say, Yesterday, it was ridiculous. He should have been at home plan Xbox and playing a game at home. Instead, he was out our streets. Can a military style gun that subsequently murdered people with and closing arguments are expected to be. On Monday, the prosecution says its planning to acid judge to allow the jury to consider lesser charges. this into the more serious ones that are now facing writ now sets ring and right now, former prosecutor, Charles Colon We talked about the case yesterday morning about where was progressing. What happened yesterday will yesterday Joe what we saw

that depends essentially put about on the best of their their case, bad things up and now they're ready for the jury. If I'm the defence on this case, They I'm feeling pretty good going into this, because one of the things that you the realise is the need is to be able to sway one juror, and I think in this case they may have more than one by all they need to be. But to do so. I wonder who says I reasonable doubts as to how, now state of mind, are reasonable doubt as to whether Talbot thousands guilty of the thinks he's being charged up and they walk away is eaten a win. The prosecution is unable to get in your conviction, because they need not unanimously now. What they are saying is that we must heed of the prosecution has taken throughout the course of this trial throughout the course of this case, with its very lengthy crossings, the nation of Mr Rittenhouse. What we know is that this is the time if the prosecution is going to show its legal charge that it will do so.

Because there were a number of things that they did technically sound during their cross examination, now now. They will have an opportunity or information to peace. Those things together from a relatively boring and uninjured thanks cross examination into some sort of tapestry. That makes sense for the jury. I dont know whether that would be not to overcome the jury's reaction to count renounces testimony whether they were move or by that whether they were engaged by that. But this is the opportunity, video about other prosecution. To prove everyone wrong, Charles about the metal standard, but the brow The commission has proven Kyle right now. It's awfully highs legal standard, but of course we wouldn't want to anything less in a charge this this serious. What do they have to prove

beyond reasonable doubt what they ought to be able to prove that he acted either recklessly went hastily with with disregard for human life and also Lee that the issue they are gonna have. There is a cow carbon houses to conduct the entire time prior to pulling the trigger, and so that's going to be a big harder for them to do to get over because, of course, the debates is going to bring up everything every step, every minute, every action that car renounced took even before the confrontation which showed that he was acting in a way we had actually the appropriate regard for human life and that we acted according to them. It's going to be a matter of self defence, so that's the he'll battle, that the process is going to have to comply with this back to trying to prove this case beyond reasonable doubt so so Claire's prosecutors are former prosecutor. Talk about your take

on this. This trial and and more importantly, if you were given, pattern that that we have here would you of what charges. Would you have brought what channel just what you had Think in this case has been an uphill battle for the prosecutions and stay one. Well, I think first restates. Laws are a little bit different as it relates to homicide cases and what you always remember when you're charging a homicide case is that in the chair I urge you are including other charges and it's all about of my whether it is intentionally weather recklessly weather is negligently, and so I am not sure this. Ass cuter Miss charge the case because he's gonna have an opportunity to argue with you. every state of mind. He thinks the strongest evidence presents and there's nothing wrong with arguing play there's a there's, certainly

actual evidence that he was intent on killing someone. He wrote the streets with his military style weapon and then It's a matter of whether or not, as is the former prosecutors pointed out whether or not you got all of the jurors and that's what I think people forget the burden for opera Peters, very high, the the reasonable doubt unanimously. They do something different in this jurisdiction where they draw the final jurors out of a lottery. They had, eighteen of them in our system that I was used to. We always had to extra alternates, and if we didn't need him at the Inn at summation, they went home and was great for us to take the temperature of what they thought as the jury deliberated- and I bet these prosecutors will do the same thing to the jurors- that dog continue into the jury room to reach their final decision- clear and you look at the charges for four for murder. In each

the cases you see there. The defence has if we call the witnesses and others who does suggest that Actually Rittenhouse houses being charged at or was it felt like he was in danger of being attacked in each one of those cases, so that is going to be ordinarily difficult for the prosecution to get past every one of those jurists I'm just curious soldiers generally. Here we have a nineteen year old, kid under age said he bought in our fifteen because he thought it was cool. He drove across they have his mother dry, whom across state lines he appointed him. of Malaysia member? He goes around any ends. Up unloading wide sixty rounds kills two people wounds a third person. This is behaviour that we and I say we are talking about conservatives, liberals gun right supporters.

Gun control supporters. We as a society. This behaviour that we as a society want to discourage So the question is what law is in place so in the House and Writ mouse the future. Don't say you know what I hear: breakin loose across the border in Georgia. I'm going to get my our fifteen skip school on Friday and go up and and and I'm saying that you're in Florida, I'm going oh across and I'm going to go into Georgia and my teenage kid is gonna just so waving. Rather they are fifteen. None of us, none of us what this sort of bag you're so what's charge against him for that. What's in the law that prevents that sort of that sort of activity from taking place in the future ones, some of the lesser included will include his state of my does. This was a kid looking for trouble. This was a kid looking for trouble with it that a very

deadly weapon any showed that he was not hesitating to you that weapon in a way that killed people. So I think the prosecutor, has really strong arguments he can make about whether or not mean, is pretty obvious. This kid didn't accidently end up there. He went there with intent now Gotta show that his intent was reasonable that the defence s hey while his is defensive himself was reasonable under the circumstances, but the prosecutors go out and talk about it. And clearly. If you're talking about Iraq was standard. I I think that obviously much firmer ground for him in law. of all those self defense evidence that the defence presented to the jury neurons George also speaking, vigilante, isn't that during the trial of the men like you,

who killing Ahmad are very heard. Nine one one calls and saw a new surveillance, a video in Beijing correspondent run out and has a weight is for us from this trial. a homeowners, nine one, one call after seeing someone on his home security camera in the neighborhood, where Ahmad Aubrey was killed, the video from five months before fatal encounter authorities for the three men accused Murder say it was Aubrey one of at least four times he was seen in the house under construction as the defence trust since the jury Army was not an innocent jogger, but rather a suspicious figure. The defendants we're trying to pull under citizens arrest and who defended products like Michael already have come face to face. With new that same house under construction, the jury hearing, Michael's nine one one call twelve days before he shot and killed armoury. He says in self defense. Darwin back up.

hurry and into the half of or not family has said he stopped at the construction site because you, to learn how to build a home for his parents? Prosecutors show this radio of several other people at the location, while questioning the owner about whether re ever stole anything If it's never been taken for I want you to say the defendants had no reason to change armoury on the day in question, while ask a police officer, three part of one of the defendants, three first interviews. What is greatly Michael, say, online three through says he was trapped, but rather by weight for four people. I guess have grown up in big city, I can tell you those of us in Suburbia Class America when somebody's building a house and we're walking around the block at night. You, look into that house in you. It's just would suggest

sorry, we, the lot of Estonia, have Broadway, plays the watch every night. That's what my parents did growin up, that's what meek and I have done when we walk around neighborhoods there. I guess it's it's crazy that these people decide they're going to execute this kid because walking around a house under construction kind of what people in the suburbs do so Charles I'll go to you on. This is well able to talk about how this case is moving forward for the prosecution was computer Rittenhouse case. I think that this case is going a lot better for the prosecution overall, but I point out that in a lot of ways I said- and I stand by- that- raises the thirteenth jerk In this case, and what I mean by that is your any town and runs with Georgia, where there was incredible difficulty finding jurors, because in one case they were

Europe as a representative of the fabric of that community, and they wanted black jurors, but they didn't want. Black dress would had the black experience of being american and happy the deal with racism and discrimination. Those are two things that are very difficult to separate and going back to the argument that you made during your last point about the cow written our case when you look at this case. In particular, I dont know that I'm so better ready to conclude that they are not a significant number of Americans who are now ok with the type of behaviour that renounced displayed and I'm going to use the MIC, Michael. Ah, what brother, the MC, Michael family and the other good MR bright as an example, Beetle

people who are involved in and that it was ok to protect property from those folks who may have somehow been a right and that it was ok to engage lethal force as a means of doing so itself. That mindset is not altogether that different than what we see in the warehouse cases. I am not prepared to concede that we don't want this ass, a society Personally, I find it to be deplorable and I think that many people on the panel might what I think is important, that we understand that as the while goes on, that there are Americans who actually feel that this somehow is ok. The other thing that I want to point outbreak quickly, Joe, is that yesterday, what we saw for Mr Brian to Turkey is that he talked about. He did not want the presence of another black pastor aim the galley of the organ.

or this trial, and I want to point out that he made this remark once it was reverend our sharply lose their impress it. That is why I say that Greece has become the thirteen Jews in this case and is now something that we want to be able to get away from, as we continue to talk about it and, as is on hold, I think as usual way bearing snout rob, but I think we have to be aware of everything else is going on we're gonna be dog and reverend reverence validated that rather bizarre moment where the defence. First of all, says that then starts making a bizarre reference to Kentucky Fried Chicken and Colonel Sanders and white mask take a look at this the idea that we're going to be serially brain. These people had to sit with the victim's family one after another. Obviously Only so many passengers they can have an effect.

is our short right now. That's fine, but then that's it with a wide more black past years coming here or other Jesse Jackson. Whoever was it was the new earlier this seeing with it family trying to influence a jury. In this case, folk came in. He addressed by Colonel Sanders, were white mask sitting back, and that would be you see other people sitting at the table with their head, in their hands, so Jeanne, I think so is say here for the defense, the race place more than just little part of their personal says. We don't want any more black pastors here, which of course makes a person sitting next to me okey, rolling, the state Then he brings up Kentucky Fried Chicken, and colonel Sanders. the the

It goes into their hands. Just an absolutely bizarre racist spectacle, your work spell it out. I mean that's, that's put down the dog whistle and just pick up the born an amount that your case is basically rights. Your case is basically trying to scare the jurors most of our white about the idea that there would be this. This black man they're in their neighborhood, potentially in there neighborhood and as a black man he would be would be dangerous and he could be armed and he was a threat, and so therefore you it was okay to shoot him to death. I mean that's, basically the the cage that but I M M M there there there's that, there's no bones about it. I mean it's not really being hidden you said. If

for every day for every person and certainly of every white person who wants into a construction site to look at a house. Powerhouse of being built in the suburbs was the in threat being killed for doing so. I play a neighbor who would do would be dead but the reality we think about how we in my neighborhood everyday walks through the site, because that's what you do and it's just it it's just amazing did he ever. You ever take anything one now say that here, the rebel? No, it's it's just it's all right! That's that's! Several caged beds, so we go from Canosa. Georgia to the tragedies EL unfolding in here night person has died one week after the horrific crowd surge

the actual world Music festival any used in taxes and for the first time we're hearing police audio from that night in BC. Corresponding Morgan, Chaskey reports doing duty woods, you build a mother's tears marking another family torn apart. by the deadly Astro World Festival. This was I answered, I dont know what it was. But this was not conflict. You know because my baby didn't come back. Marty shall honey died, late Wednesday, that twenty two, had been on a ventilator since Friday, night Travis Scott concert where her cousin, why sure disappear when the crowd searched. If they had a pair in on all three sides barricades they suffocated us. They did this to party. They suffer it is partly the STAR Texas, aunt em student. Now the ninth life lost at the event facing new lawsuits. By the day we will to make sure that

people who decided to put profits, where the safety of the live of children and youth- are here accountable, verify alot of people trampled air there passed out at the front page police radio. from the Friday night concert just obtained by the Houston Chronicle captures them all The concert packed with more fifty thousand people took a deadly turn. This transmission nine. Twenty one p m for recovery outer crowd, notably of crushing categories. They like the crowd, Rapid Amass, casualty event was declared at nine thirty pm, some in the crowd for the show to for the did not stop performing until ten ten. His rubbish If say he was unaware of what was happening.

Is saves unaware of what was happening at the same time a tragedy of a mass casually event was called any continued playing for forty minutes. People coming up onto the stage saying star They show the crowd was standing shouting, stop the show he continued for forty minutes and it doesn't help. His case that he has a long history of causing chaos id cards. According to the L Times and twenty seventeen Scott faced three June, it of inciting the riot disorder conduct and in during the welfare of a minor after he invited fans to overpower security and run, this stage, and why His shows an ark and saw Scott pleaded. guilty to disorderly conduct and had to pay more than six thousand dollars to two people who were injured in the show. He also pleaded needed charges of reckless conduct

inciting a crowd in twenty fifth John Harmon, the height of recklessness continues playing forty minutes after the we both been concerts, we're both old enough to remember what and the who concert back and seventy seven. I guess it was seventy eight We were supposed to have learned our lesson way back. I don't I've said this week, my kids. wherever they want to go to a concert I said yeah I'll I'll look at tickets, I'll help you out with your tickets, but I'm not a general admission. I just that my kids have grown up knowing they're not gonna, be general admission for this reason alone. What s a huge music fan. This curious, what's been your take this tragedy. You know Joe it's been my take that that I've been listen to. Your weaken thinking that that I agree,

in almost every regard at me now. You know why I still occasionally get to a show that general admission show, but there are usually not I mean there's this- shows their shows right in their certain kinds of, especially for an act like this Travis God is. It was a huge act and has a massive following generation, z and and and millennials now I'll, get to that. The second of what this is doing, I think, to his to his brand reputation is future, but you know at I've been to to outdoor shows, in all sincerity, limits were Travis guys play, and even even in those settings where people are relatively placid there sometimes a kind of energy that you know but prepare endemic you know, you'd see, cut energy. That was sometimes a little worrying, to the point where you know, especially now when people are just coming back to a alive, shows and there's so much pent up energy and so much aggression and a lot of cases, and so many places that have kind of work

how to do these things, because for the last two years we have seen events like this, you would think it would be airing on the side of caution at an event like this. Fifty thousand people on all at one stage, with that level general admission, no bear it set up, took segment things out of a job general mission, a b c, nothing to kind of prevent this. It seems like the a recklessness and irresponsibility both in the planning of the event and then, of course, and drive a Scots behaviour on stage. You know the current trouble thing in less than last day is this. Is this the revelation that that deal the fashion line has tie, its entire men's line next spring, there was a giant try to Scott Collaboration that they, a face the question of what they're going to do about aid up to tens of millions of dollars of investment motionless close, have already been made, given the supply in all those things have to be in the pipeline business. I wasn't going to cancel this thing or not, and the last thing I ll say is you know,

I'm an old man is, are you, but I got a lot a young workers, young staff, I should say over the recount people in there one is an thirties who took person or so outraged at Travis Scots behaviour there like we're done with him, were fitted. I've been out his he's dead. Do us, basically it I mean that metaphorically, but I've been stunned by how wide read the outrages among his core demographic among people who because they thought he was, if not locked on water. They thought it was a pretty important artists and their now looking at this taking in this video taking in the evidence what they ve, seen, a few days and it looks like this guy's career- is now in a significant degree, jeopardy. Charles. I really don't know where prosecutor would start here. You have the performer who continued performance, forty minutes after a mask casually event,

is called people shouting, stop the show. You have the promoter who John said, has this mass general admission of vat, which is just I'm in your just asking especially with a performer this type of reputation of joining up the crowd whose head charges filed against in before for getting off the ground. Just asking for trouble the promoters reports of police officers not acting as quick. they they could have acted meeting. You have a budget It's who came to the show who are laid down in the planning stage the performance stage and the securities stage. This is just an absolute nightmare. We'll do I agree with you, I think, or as much as we hear about Travis got you hit the nail on the head when you started talking from a criminal standpoint around

promoters in their responsibilities as well as security and in particular, large nation and the promoters of Disobey, given the fact that drivers got as the history of former days does and what we already know about their failure to provide safe and secure situations for over, thousand people who we know relatives. I asked a world. I do think that, because of the injury our sustained and the law. And the loss of life that occurred, that there may be a case here of war prosecutors with regard to negligent I dont negligent homicide taxes, and so it would the waiting. When about organizing this, what they knew from previous events, in our world previous cars. That had been at that had happened right there in that space. Not imagine what you talk about some of the other events that Dr Scott has headline. They add much more

more information than they should have been used in order put it in order to put this thing together, and I do think that what we saw was in terms of the loss of life. Now people does begin to board or criminal, given all the steps that they could have taken. What did not interrupted the negligence or reckless stand to be met? All right, Charles COM, and thank you so much, I'm curious Clare, your your take on What's happened in Houston. Of course, This is why I would look at the promoters. I would look at the venue. I look at the security that we're round there, but it is the performer whose making the body is so performer, whose is getting Jordan. Airily rich often shoving as many kids into a small space is possible without any safeguards. Why would a prosecutor it? This happened in Kansas City when you're prosecutor there, who would you be looking at a party below

at all of the above on some kind of negligent count placing people in jeopardy. But you know my question. This- and this is something that I think the United States Police Chiefs Association or talk about when those calls came and they had the power to pull the plug on that concert, law enforcement, have gone to the stage and sad, this thing is over immediately once the. Everyone, says, were involved and once they got eyes on how bad it was. I really question Why they didn't take the step of shutting down. They had responsibility here too you know. I mean just imagine and another situation we, you started to have this kind of unsafe mass casualty event that the police, let the guy What does situation continue when they had the power to pull the plug? I don't

I haven't seen reporting on this. Maybe there has been some, I missed it, but I'd sure like to ask the police officers the first medical What response to the site? Why there wasn't radio traffic to shut it down? nine nine. Thirty, John. I, when you have a mass casually event, king with Jonathan Mere about this earlier this week and and city there was concern in the park. There was a lightning they, they went to tell them and they needed under. Why did down the back the band? pay attention. New York city cops its later, they said ok and they just shut it down, nowadays they thy unplugged, unplugged everything shut. It down, told everybody to go home. It is hard to Imagine this happening in New York City with New York's, the cops, letting something go on for forty forty five after a mass casualty of vat has been called. It's hard to imagine

really happening in any big city where there's a professional police force him in there. I know we ve seen the numbers of police who were or who are on the ground in in Houston. It's not a small number and not be eclairs ray. The correct question, I mean the tragic some of the most tragic reports that came out of this thing were these kids, who who had somehow managed whiskey the more of what was happening on the ground when people are being sucked into essentially human sink hole and being trampled kids. Who got out of that? climbed up on the stage or climbed up on on some of the sound It's an oar yelling at people on the stage saying look what's happening down, their turn can pull the plug and they ve got the rich engineers and and video furs and other people who are just cut, ignoring them, shoeing them away. While these kids are screaming you now, people are dying, down here right. Where are they That is the next question. They shouldn't have to be screaming, that at a guy at the mixing border, a guy.

The answer and our roadie or or a video river, the police The moment I declares point to me seems to be the moment, a nine one. One call goes out and out and at the first Ambulances, evens despatched to the site, under these circumstances, there should be police involved and working to be ready to let cut the APS caught the music take the stage, and I, only thing that suggests that that answers? I think that the goal of potential answers to that are either, and I hate to say that this is no, that that people are out of practice You know we do not have these events, as I said before, for couple years or that have the police kind of forgotten. Their vigilance in this, jewish like how to run an event like this safely amount of meaning literally forgotten, but they're kind of everyone, so Could it be seeing these events come back or people and not on guard to the degree that they should be? Is that are the answer here. Nor was it is the fact that the police were afraid.

And you know it is the case in some situations: police officers who have not seen a lot of these kinds of bends, they're kind of intimidated at what the crowds reaction be, if we try to kill this thing, that's not a good reason not to do it, but you can see I've seen security in some shows go out. You know if we shut this thing down, the crowds gonna go crazy, do we a crowd control. Do we have enough people here if the crowd goes nuts and then feeds into some other unpleasant questions. In some cases where you have sometimes please deserves whose attitude as while they they they pay they're doing this thing. You know what I'm, what am for themselves, all of it to an incredible to greater responsibility and an potential. The kinds of negligence that declares talking about well, that's legal realm, and certainly in the moral room and certainly not just with a plea, officers, the performers, but the promoters worldwide. The act just across the board, there's a torrential rain. This moving Cross EAST Coast is one I want to get you up to date with that and also

blizzard warnings out West, let's go to build care bill when you got there as usual and yes isn't all those mornings broken, have significant travel implications at the airports and the rose. The northeast the MID West end the northwest with a heavy rain event there too. So let's get into the first areas of coins. we're already seeing the heavy rain and really gusty winds move through the Washington DC area. That line is now approaching the Baltimore Regent, eventually, the peak of Russia, the over Philadelphia and heading up towards New York City at the tail end of the morning rush hour and central New York. Also, here's kind of timing for the big cities, Washington DC, elucidate, the worst of it is just about any about now through eighty. After that, you should be fine, damaging windows possible. We tracked this line of storms and torrential rain to Philadelphia. Heaviest should be around nine, a m to me. The around eleven a m tapering off by about new

the New York City area, looks like from about ninety. Until about noon today may be one p m strong winds, maybe even some claps, a thunder movie to isolate arraigned towards up the two inches. So a lot of rain, short periods of time in the northeast modally. her down now in many areas the storm dreams will get club. So we will get some localized street flooding in for Boston right around three. To about six p m is the worst for you and then in the west we ve had semis blowing over. We have snow and blizzard conditions in the a areas like chicken No in Minneapolis, you have rain changing over to snow and temperatures getting cold, because naked airport lays even in the MID west. Because of those winds up you get, the idea can be a very difficult data, be flying across the country. When you talk about major hogs, like Dc New York, Boston in Chicago all, with adverse weather and including the northwest, and as far as those wings, Moscow they're gonna pick today anywhere between forty to fifty miles per hour. So maybe

isolated power, outages as far south as Omaha and maybe, and even in areas like Moines so weekend, forecast that storm system will weaken but still bring some unsettled, whether the northeast on Saturday, much of the southern half of the nation, you private, pretty nice weekend come in your way, but you actually get some more football games on Sunday and Saturday, Joe in the great lakes. It's that time a year are starting to talk. All snow and win, but a heads up to our friends in the northeast this morning, significant delays as you head out the door. no doubt about it. Indeed see its Henry the morning commute. That's can be made longer and there you know commuting going North in Boston is bad enough on any Friday today said from three sex. It's it's gonna be terrible. You may want to try to sneak out right after lunch, still at a morning Joe. I would cover cases of the rise in more than a dozen states. Are we starting to see a new winter surgery and take a look at what is happening in our spills across the country? We ve had some really

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You see the importance of U S, allies and it's impossible to exaggerate. The strategic importance of this location. U S be one both flanks by? U S and french versions follow by japanese Airforce Ps3 flying over Djibouti, where China has its only overseas military base, with an estimated forty, five hundred troops and one of its nearby neighbours. A: U S: military Base Camp lemon yea home to five thousand: U S, troops, you did everything here. We may need major general, William Zanna, the most senior- U S officer in Africa that this is the only example of a chinese base so close to in. U S face Certainly in whenever I hear that I always say it's. China's first base, I believe, will be camp is located in the Horn of Africa. New countries battling is,

make extremism and coastal crews, shipping lanes. The Chinese have now completed the construction of a pair close to here. Do you expect to see a chinese aircraft carrier dumping chinese submarines? I think the period the Chinese have constructed will be capable of hosting this about any vessel within the and inventory. We have now seeing chinese vessels at that period. I think that's only a matter of time. Earlier this month after China's report, a test of our hypersonic missile, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, told Lestat about the growing threat from China. We are witnessing one of the largest shifts global geostrategic power at the world, we try because Djibouti signs of China economic dominance everywhere. Even the Bank of China and just six miles from America's base

we turned into an isolated road to find a p was liberation. Army now come so to China. these basic right here and they are going watching us as watching them. This is a four really is a kind of Chinese for opened only four years ago, trying to turn around immense, as close as we really want to get they clearly, don't once attention contrast there with: U S forces training local troops The statement to embassy news from the chinese embassy in Washington suggest there still developing the base, policemen and commissioning of the base will help China better, fulfil the international obligations of the United Nations and help China new contributions to Africa and the world peace and stability. The statement ends, we urge the? U S to stop slandering and smearing chow

and China is considering more military bases around the globe. According to the Pentagon, across a and Africa in talks to build a military port on the Atlantic, We should be very concerned about China's basing interest for having african ports and land bases and what that would mean for a country. I think that's consequential. just some of the insights for me here. The work that the who s military is doing here to help fight islamic extremism, that's actually building alliances with countries in this region, alliances that could be crucial in this competition. China in this region. Another crucial point that I've seen China is here, China is here to stay. What's nuclear is how competitive on the ground, the relation is gonna be and how much operation that can be to put it frankly,

we'll China play by the rules. The answer to that will write history. Joe cured so fascinating. Even ten years ago, Henry Kissinger, who, of course, when China, with Richard Nixon in nineteen, seventy two for that historic meeting with now Kissinger's go on China. I think about a decade ago said that their debts treat China is only interested in the middle kingdom. They do not want to spread. across the globe, certainly things have changed radically over the past five. Seven years have a dane you're, seeing it right there. I think that's right history tells us something else, John: when a power. Has economic interests around the world, its military often followed so seen from Beijing. Aside from the question of just how far she wants his tree to reach out- and they certainly indicating that he does seem from-

aging there are in economic interests here that China will want to protect. So as you heard in my report, that from the command of it at this base It seems kind of inevitable that China will want to build a more bases in Africa and around the world yesterday's. How will they play? How will they acts in this region will lead to conflict? That is the crucial question is not inevitable, but it is a for the? U S, voice allies for all interested parties. On this issue, Thank you so much very important insights, NBC cures. Seven supporting lie from EAST Africa, greatly appreciate it and coming up is inflation, a problem. It depends on what Harlem you read in this morning's must read: opinion pages will go through that and get our exports

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ago, he'd be going out saying that the top issue right now these facing that Americans are facing is inflation. That's obviously what a lot of people are talking about on the opinion pages and must reeds and hear some takes Kathy. And pale rights for the Washington Post Democratic, nor the recent inflation number set their own peril quote. The buyer has limited tools available for dealing with inflation, and it seems unwise to promise his agenda will do more to reduce prices. Can it actually can, in any case price stability is supposed to be the purview of the Federal Reserve Unfortunately, the feds most obvious to overturning down inflation. Rising interest rates risks throwing the economy back into recession when democratic, tell voters they should stop whining about inflation. Such worries or imagined they do themselves no favours either. They must have,

the mid terms with a clear. I view the economy as it is not as I wish it to be and this from Paul Krugman a he writes in the New York Times at history, says: don't panic about inflation quote What does history teaches about the current inflation spike? One lesson is Episodes of overheating, don't necessarily lead to 1970s type stagflation, one thousand nine hundred and forty six. Two hundred and forty eight didn't cause long term and fight and neither did other episodes that most resemble where we are now? more wine and the korean WAR, and we really should have some patience given what another nineteen forties pronouncements, that inflation can't be transitory because it has persisted for a number of life. or just silly so yes and ugly inflation report and we hope the future looks better than it looks now, but for making major comparisons with the nineteen seventies and screaming about,

stagflation or look at the long history, when you look at the right history. It tells you not to panic Jean Robinson, of course, in a great column about inflation yourself tell us your take well look the economist can make their their case on either. side of the question whether it is or is not transitory. I think politically. I think that the present binding and the White House had better worry about inflation, because I think inflation is political listen and then particularly rising gas prices, something and everybody sees everybody- feels its on Bilbil you know down the down the street and you see in gas causing about twenty. or a girl, and then it did last year

and in people notice that in their upset about it and and they looked toward the lively administration, may look words of the president in the land, the White House, in the administration and Congress to do so Think about it and- and I think the party in power is potentially will pay a price, and so I think this administration has to be seen to take it inflation seriously, not just say you know, you're imagining that or don't worry about it. In fact. Gets people worry about it, the girls are being more and they should be seen to do something about it. To try to do something about it, open this door. releasing some oil from the strategic reserve. Do things and politically that's the that's the path. I would take it if I were advising the White House

clearer if you're senator in it, now and you have gas prices going up. Fifty percent energy prices going up. Thirty percent food supply. he's going up. What do you do What do you tell your other colleagues? Well, I think it's really important that Democrats take. not just these inflationary numbers, but also what happened? Virginia and Let's do it got check here? I think the Democrats, I think all of us got so carried away with how bad tromp was that we thought that, as a primary talking point was gonna be enough to get those voters who voted for Donald Trump and Joe Biden I get to stay in our column, and I think this stuff is really dangerous. I couldn't agree more with Jean about the gas prices there. some things the president can do about the gas prices in terms of the patrol

reserve- and you know I I don't think we spend less time talking about how we got towards energy independence under the Obama administration. It wasn't and I think I'm turning towards the dad. The oil pipeline mines and what's going on in terms of the refineries and what's going on in terms of gas prices Joe Biden needs to spend some time on that subject and not ignore it, because there's a way that those voters in the suburbs are not paying attention to what, with the credit card receipt says when they feel their tank, and it could be brutal for Democrats next year if something that happened to bring prices back down and by the way for anybody who thinks that when those gas prices go up there thinking. This is Donald Trump Voltages snide through blaming Joe Biden, their blaming the Democrats there blaming the

already in power and so or so and Clare. Clear, brings up great points. I agree with gene to your bill. Clinton would throw everything the wall that he could. When gas prices started to go up, Hillary Clinton or two thousand eight campaign when she stopped making progress against Barack Obama would talk about cutting the gas tax in and it worked amid western states in that election is work for other presidencies as well, but I I want to step back a little bit here and follow up on why clear, she's? Talking about that learning? From last Tuesday, we talked last week about the New York Times editorial and their analysis, Democrats, laws in Virginia governors, race and attitudes. Lord said: the party risks losing the voters it gained from Republicans if it doesn't seek a more moderate course this

bring the Wall Street Journal William Gulls and is giving his taken a new peace title, the democratic guy de losing elections he writes in part. The New York Times stated notably silent on the issue that arguably made the biggest difference in virginias gubernatorial contest, namely teaching about rate and race and ethnicity and public schools and three stabs the defeated democratic candidates showed how not to deal with it. First, tell parents about out the mattered experts. Second infuriate parents by telling them that they are confused, No real problem and finally accused lookin candidates of blowing a racist dog whistle in effect tearing Mccullough figures. Virginia voters who responded to Glennie on being racist, calls and continue the bottom. Why it's time for Democrats to get serious about the problems they created for themselves in decades? Long rifts towards cultural, progressive ism that repels the or they need to build a national

majority- and you know it, the human, obviously Democrats that are going to go to the Wall Street Journal editorial page to today guidance on how to run their next election, but they should leader should look at the New York Times from last week and and the walls journal. This attitude from this we can look at his side, decide pagan archives one thing that I really took out of this world three journal editorial and this I constantly have people concept, we would what happened in the morning what happened a conservative, Why did they move towards Donald Trump and the guy that grew up in Ghana suburbs of Atlanta Alabama, Mississippi Georgia, Upstate New York, part of upstate New York, that we went tromp. I can tell you, it was just a constant feeling that people are being looked down upon the national media by the national parties

what a piss off parents there are too great to do what wine are three great ways: one tell him not to be addressed not to get involved in there. It's cool too, column racist if, if they support a candidate that you disagree with and free, and I think this is most important in something several looked tell them that what they, their singing and their children. School is not we'll You know better about. What's going on in there, children's eighth grade classroom from your parts in New York or Manhattan, LOS Angeles VIN vetting, do that's exactly what keeps you go on Twitter, oh, this is not. We are told that critical race theory and general I'm talking, though, this growing concern from parents, chicken column, racists. If you want to lose, and you can say that what their com

learning about or what their that, what they're saying is not real, but Virginia showed us. That's the point way to disaster and a pathway to Kevin Mccarthy being Speaker in a pathway to Donald. being re elected in twenty four, so Just to note, first of all, to Alston who wrote that he's the Wall Street Journal is not is not a republican, not conservative. Someone who was sent to the they went on at the Democratic Leadership Council and at the progressive policies to Electric Bill Clinton back in the ninety. Nine is one of the chief architects of the new democratic strategy, time now they'll be progressives who consider that Republican, but let us not republican and not a Wall Street Journal conservative first thing Secondly, as you know, the person who agrees with that with this point of view, Joe to some extent, I'm not saying that entire thing you just propounded or the Balkans propounding is Barack Obama broke crop. Both bra

bomb and Bill Clinton understood that the way to win presidency in the way to build a national coalition was not to build it on the back of up of a for a call, progressive, is not that they didn't have any any any pay heed to that part of the Democratic Party, but they also paid a large part of the heed to the bar, the Democratic Party that finds those kinds of the issues and those kinds of conversations to be you're talking about right now, which is people in the middle of the country, people hardworking middle class of working class voters, of all races. Frankly, not just white voters who do don't was, though, the way that coastal we talk about these issues. They find it off putting smog dismissive paternalistic, n, N n N, it's not, and certainly not the kinds of issues they want to tat they want to hear about and that animate their votes. That was the less get to tutor president's democratic presidents. Brooklyn Brok bother, you Margo bomb up through a lot of his his time in office

and afterwards to this day, but moaning woke progressive purity tests that get Democrats destroy did from how you to build a national coalition, how you need to speak to again middle class and working class voters of all races, not wipe out but also a lot hispanic voters and allow black voters who are necessarily part of the progressive wept, and I think that gosh, you ve, talked in the show out about David Shore and the aid that is. About what are the things democratically Are we talking about one of the things they need it talking about less and one of the things that need to be taught my differently. These crucial arguments to have- and I think the other one rural editorial by boat Alston and that new Times editorial at others now or I think to engage in that conversation, because the less last Tuesday, or not just about what happened in Virginia, but what happened in Portland at what happened in Seattle on what happened in Texas. It would have been a long island where the

shoes that are being now placed for the centre about what the Democratic Party talks about issues get whatever side. What are the those are now from the centre, because a lot of those people the cultural issues and how the member talk about them got reputed from coastal coast, not just a Virginia, not just. Cops race, but up and down the ballot, Midwest West and EAST. yeah and Jean Robin send so glad that that John, I only brought up David Short, as it reminds me of Wash AL sharply. Spent, been saying for a long time and what we learned in the Eric Adams Race and wait. What shores numbers showed digging in to the twenty twenty numbers was that White woke opinion shapers at times are far more progressive, even on issues racial injustice, then or black Hispanics than and other people of color

and and their opinions and I'm curious what you thought is looking to like Eric Adams, for instance, who ran as a conservative, who calls himself a conservative and in doing one queens, Brooklyn, well Staten, island of course, and and Logs, of course, of course, Laws Manhattan, the tony airports, but you have a black man you heard city is, as I, my conservative guy and a mud, shamed and and he's gonna be the next year in New York City. Well, look, I think, I think progressive in end Democrats in general, need do not dismiss the culture war, but in, but engaged and engage in in a in smarter ways? Sometimes I

you know I wrote a column recently against the war. The word woke has been- has been weapon ized and is being used and in how how progressives really Have they found a way to neutralize those sorts of attacks- and so you're right. The way to do it is not to tell of the parents that their imagining things, for example, if they are concerned about the way their kids are being talk or what their kids are being taught in school, but their but but not to shy away from those discussions, just to have them in a different way them in a non dismissive way and because we should be able to arrive at a point where, for example, that the question of

the room, then a p english class Virginia is to read: Toni Morrison's, beloved a great novel by a Pulitzer and Nobel Prize winning one of the greatest threats that this country has recently produced in that that should that be decided in the Bin, the sort of cross fire of culture war, and there should be a way to two to come to some sort of standing on that there should be a way to come to an understanding on on teaching all of american history, the good parts and the bad part, so it should be should be a way to have that discussion, that doesn't that doesn't turn people off but that that engages them and that that that meets their concerns yet deals with

with with reality and and with history. just so you know, Democrats of that, greater by messaging and- and this is this is it. This is a problem but the solutions that have the discussion and different way. I think why an end I have very open discussion and I just can't find. Maybe parents would be offended by democratic candidates, saying hey are, you should have a say in the classroom and we should teach history and it should be even handed. We should talk about the greatness of America. We should talk about the the greatness of of our having documents and, as I said before, to things could be true at once at the same time slavery. Was the original sin of this country and its something that we're we're still that we came to turn Well, then, we're still coming to terms with ray

disparities. Even today, that's just said that is just the reality and that needs to be taught in is an something again that Democrats Jane need to figure out an effective way to say on the campaign trail from MSNBC films comes the story of a cover up and ITALY or miss that occurred near LOS Angeles mothers journey to actively. Dare you do this to my community? You lied about this in the dark of the valley ten p dot, MSNBC