Become a warmer plus member and be the first in line to shove. The hottest online black Friday deals for hours before everyone else, so yeah warmer plus helps you get the gift the first, when your kid rode on their list like five months ago, the gift that, if you could just get your hands on it, will make this holiday the best holiday ever yeah. That gift become a warmer plus member at Walmart, plus dot com and be the first. shop. All my black Friday deals for hours before everyone else with early access not available to trial members, while supplies lust This morning, at least five people are dead and dozens more injured after an suv ploughed through a holiday parade route in Wisconsin, vocal, live One hospital where victims were Transported- Andy says Tom Winter has Let us on what police think was a motive here we

are also following this weekend's chaos from inside a lan as international Airport after a gun, accidently discharged and the path Germanic to get away after it firearm went off mature the laws as more sentences handed down for people who took part in the January sixth insurrection, the attack of the capital, one judge. is still placing the blame right at the feet of Donald Trump? That is former Trump adviser has a plan to keep from running again, for president remind trompe could be the biggest loser a reminder to trunk that it could be the biggest loser in american politics, then next analyze Stevenson and as many exports predicted Kyle written House was found, not guilty of Charges on Friday, still one

his attorneys is striking out an extreme republican members of Congress and Donald Trump Junior will tell you why morning, it's a busy morning welcomed a morning Joe Monday November. Twenty second will begin in Wisconsin, for at least five people are dead and more than forty injured, after an s, unity drove through a Christmas parade and walk a shot. Today afternoon, a red Suv crashed through barricades set up for the parade dozens of people in attendance. The moment of impact was caught on camera. for senior law enforcement officials. Tell NBC News. Police are questioning a person of interest to may have a long criminal history. Those sources say the poorest

of may have been fleeing from an earlier incident involving a knife when vehicle reached the parade well, bake with Tom Winter in a moment on the investigation, Waukesha public schools are both today and the city is providing counselling services, the police behold press conference this afternoon, one o clock local of time and, of course, will be carried out- on MSNBC here and covering every angle of this story, as it is still developing joining us now from a children's hospital in Milwaukee, where several of the victims were transported, NBC News, correspondent, Megan Gerald Megan. What can you tell us. a meagre good morning. What we know right now is that this hospital behind me children's hospital here milwaukee- has confirmed at least fifteen patients admitted here. We know more than forty people are injured and at this point, five people

lost their lives. We know that that number could possibly increase, as several people are in critical condition at this hour, but you know that the fact that we're standing in front of a children's hospital really get to the heart of this tragedy. We're talking about children anyways. I excited to go to this annual Christmas parade in the centre. Town, something that was cancelled last year because of the pandemic until this disrupt suv came ploughing down the street taking out everyone in its path. I want you to listen to what one eye witness told us take a lesson: married daughter register. In front of me, but she was Navy five feet away from Jim and go in carrying out these forty eight and fifty nine. Now I just came through, and I thought, This is really about yourself.

This woman, obviously among many others who made it out, but you gotta imagine the trauma that is now setting in these children. These parents, watching this tragedy unfold. The archdiocese here in this community tells us that, among the victims, as a catholic priest along with parishioners and several catholic school children. This is ongoing investigation there are still answers that we are waiting for now that we are are likely to get some more information on this Coming hours when police hold that next update and press conference meagre. all right. Thank you. So much manganese, Megan Fitzgerald greatly appreciated. What a tragedy I just It is unfathomable, let's bring in right now and B C news investigations or Porter Tom, whether to figure out how this nightmare unfolded Tom, a couple of things right now, based on your sources I do not believe this is an act of terrorism. That's correct!

good morning, in speaking with at least a forty five senior law enforcement officials been briefed on this system footing it myself, my colleague, Jonathan Dean, some might cause there that at this stage the investigation This moment at least what they ve uncovered so far. There is no education or next system terrorism here either foreign inspired, think something along the lines of an ISIS inspired attack. Nothing domestic something that might have to do with a racial or ethnic if so, there is no indication of that so far in this investigation, there is also no indication so far that this has any. to do with the retaliation retaliatory attack tide. The Kyle written House verdict either. So Those are two important things to say. Right away were also being told. That is Surely this is the chain of events. Is there? Is police best understand it at this time, so there were some. river of a knife, fight or stabbing that occurred in a nearby park in this town and city yesterday, and then this purse,

of interest is being questioned at this time. A resolution being question The late hours last night is who was involved in that in the course of fleeing that drove to this parade in obviously killed and injured. A number belts and children. Now I think it a couple of things that are still trying to get a handle on is: why did this person use this particular route to flee this crime obvious we just saw from that map the hearse for that one street, so We need to try to get a better sense of of why they chose this particular path based on our roads. morning based on public source. It information that we ve been able to look into this person has a deep in detailed criminal history hissed violence so that something that will be taking a closer look at seeing with law enforcement today. So we following that, I think a couple of things that will be keeping an eye on is you know, this person being chased it all it. If not, then again, why did they choose this route? See

and understand. Why were being so cautious at this stage, Joe and meagre? Is forest I were more say, look it's so early in the investigation, but based on that we're getting it. Indications that this is not terrorism related, Morgana The information that you ve been getting in reporting and others have been getting through the night again, and that's just where we are right now at six or seven. A m on the east coast on Monday morning is that this wise person with a long criminal history fleeing a nigh fight in a nearby park and again based on your reporting. It just seems, like he was fighting a route route to escape that night fight at it. It was actually moreover, random ran choice. That's

indications are at this point like to know why he chose this particular route. Also, there is some indication in recent court filing city may have been in trouble: with the law in the past several weeks, so was the somebody can just decided I'm not going back to oh and I want to do a lot harm and saw a target of opportunity in this Christmas parade either way just a shocking reflect crime. Having seen the video that you played there until its conclusion is current. It's just very difficult to look at you. embassies. Tom winter, thank you very much for your reporting this morning. Now did this Poland has president bindings approval rating at forty four percent That is, from the latest CBS News. You golf ball, which is slow. Higher than some other recent surveys, though, still six, one drop from when the same polwarth conducted last month on his head Like the issues. The present,

It is in positive territory for only one area. His distribution of the covert nineteen vaccine, but now the president has his belt back federal. This weeping social spending package to run on which pay in the house on Friday on this, though, these are two hundred and twenty. the names are two hundred and thirteen the bill back better Bill, this path. The Senate is hoping to vote on the bill before Christmas. Every Democratic said We will need to support the package for it to pass their, let's bring the host of way too early and White House Barrow chain that politico Jonathan Le Maire, professor it state University adequate Junior endemic?

and they say, contributor and best selling author of the confidence Code Series Caddy K good to have you all with us this morning. So why don't? Why? Don't we just start with the last person we saw in that shot carrying Kay Eu policy who now has was the guiding force in pushing through the affordable care act, the guiding for some pushing through covered or leave earlier their share the transportation bill and now build back batter, I shall certainly you look it at her. Reza may of White she's been able. The shepherd through thousand I heard from one then again for another. This was never going to happen just start with Nancy Pelosi. She obviously ranks up their legislatively is one of the most successful speakers of all time. Doesn't she I remember after the affordable care act passed thinking, the Brok Obama owed Nancy Pelosi, flowers for the rest of her life, and I think by bombing joins that flower gifting session now by police,

ability to get the votes. This was a really tough passage. We soon all of the division within the house. Democrats. Those who didn't want to vote on this until a bill that better was actually linked and didn't want to. vote on the early infrastructure, hot infrastructure bill until this bill was going to pass as well. There is a lot of dissent amongst progressives in her caucus. She had to do with moderates and her cork has at various stages. It was no of pretty process, but she got it and she got both the hard and structure voted on and she got the soft infrastructure bill voted on and we, we said no one can count votes like none too, and even when it was looking rougher Democrats, the White House and on Capital Hill, Romania's when she gets these votes through people remember what it looks like getting there vote through that. Just remember that they pass nationals it has to get out to the people. This money has to get out to Americans. It has to be felt around the country and that's gonna take a little bit longer

I so Jonathan LE. Let let LE we'll talk Nancy Pelosi. Let's talk about what happened on the other side of Pennsylvania, Avenue worrier Joe Biden who came in Ellie everybody I can get things die and you it is not worth it have been, dropping dropping dropping because he hasn't gotten. a lot of legislation down there just been allotted Democrats in the halls of Congress yelling at each other. In talking to reporters now, a massive infrastructure package drops passes now this massive but bill back better bill passes and, at the end of the day, The only reason it pass along with Nancy Pelosi was because at some point progressives just put her hands and said: listen, we don't. Ass, the moderates and the Senate, but we try, Joe Biden and Joe Biden says: he's gonna get this done, which is why it got done.

Yet the White House believes, after a real summer, slump that extended into the fall that it has turned. corner and you're right. President Biden then candidate by campaigns on this promise that the government could work again, that he could restore Americans faith in the federal government in the bureau, c in the White House after four tumultuous, years of Donald Trump. Anyone the aim, prove it. Democracies could still work and compete across the globe with autocracy. Talker, like China, and certainly this summer hit barbed withdraw from Afghanistan. The delta variants uncovered cases, surging, which cost his pole numbers on terms as having the pandemic and then the messy and fighting on Capitol Hill we certainly saw the public was rather patients and wait where our things getting the White House, AIDS that I talked to him last few days believe that this is a turning point for the restoration of Friday was a huge deal to get this done through the house named knowledge.

There's still ways to go in the Senate and progressives who, by the way, have sacrificed a lot more here than the conservative, more moderate centres. In terms this negotiation, they did put their faith and Joe Biden in part. as she has relation with Senator Mansion. She has were extracted a framework promised to get this done there. Look it still going to be tortured, exists process here are things fall in and out it's gonna go to the Senate. Is bills can go back? The house were not at the finish line just yet. may extend into early next year will see about that Christmas deadline, but the White House believes Hats romance if they believe that those pull numbers will go up again with just storm clouds on the horizon. Obviously, the ongoing matter of inflation and that we are seeing covert cases start took up again among the investigated, but as we heard of the hot air travel season, that's something too nervous you watching too, other nation is a wash in available of Well, you look at the numbers on that CBS Ball issue by issue and they're, just some numbers at our sitting, where they are right now because of the realities of inflation. We have inflation, which of course could be predicted

A lot of people are warning about inflation coming out of covert people have to point Three trillion dollars in their savings are going to start spending at especially when they get the opportunity start spending on services, so inflation is numbers. Are thirty three percent they'll stay there until inflate? washes out over the next six to nine months, which it should do the same. Were they economy Eddie go out. You look at that. Thirty. Nine percent is pretty obvious that economy economy number and also sort of a feeling about how America's doing that's just gonna go up and down Eddie with with The case is Eddie still there or do we just have the police there there's Eddie, I'm going to see you I kept. Saying your name, which is a cue that The see any right now going to your your ear trip abroad and a little bit by bit Calvin cases went down this summer, Joe Biden, numbers or high when dealt a variant came up, is numbers dipped.

I suspect that when those covered cases wash out, those numbers will go back up again. I completely agree. I mean, as we see kinds, some kind of stability, as we emerge at least hopefully emerge from the disrupting effects of but I think those numbers will change, but there are some. There are some disturbing fact features of that pole. I mean what the things that are really concerned about, as this is numbers with regards to african Americans right, we see that those numbers are on the decline and has everything to do with the fact that he hasn't brought a serious voter, rich voter voter voter vote will have any rights, rotor loading rights due to the tape. So there's here that we have to try to think about, but we, I think, you're, absolutely right Joe. If we see some some kind of stability with with regard to cover. We might, we might see those numbers increase and another thing Eddie you you see, the numbers down among black Americans see down among hispanic Americans, you see,

down among Democrats he's at eighty percent set of eighty eight eighty nine ninety percent, where he normally would be, I suspect, some of those numbers gonna take back up, would build back better becomes law, but again those numbers, it will go back to bite and ordered Democrat as elections come come up but No doubt you underline something very important needed to get. This legislation died and his mind in his first. You're an office, but as we too the coroner and go into twenty twenty two. I can't imagine any thing more important than getting the Louis Voting Rights Bill past. You know Joe. Completely agree and part of what I think african american voters are looking for, a fight. We just heard I kissed in Cinema through our reach reporting that our she's been talking with the report as a lot lately talking about our faith in this buster that does

bode well for it for voting rights legislation, and so we need to see the Democratic party fighting with rigour in with this issue. With regard to this issue, we didn't We saw some of that then the indication of what what might happen. If we don't get get some fight in this role. Virginia, and we worry about moving into twenty twenty, such twenty twenty one, twenty two into we, I am still sleepy because appear as you can tell I just get. It is It is amazing, Well, don't worry about it Eddie. We now you're a little tired, we're just does your uniform media just such a good luck and guy? That's why you're like Wallpaper Forest, where, exactly until you can start territory exec? Alright, Sir President Biden, members of his inner circle have reportedly told allies in recent days he plans to run for reelection twenty twenty four according to the world imposed. The message is aimed in part at tamping down the assumption.

among many Democrats that body may not seek reelection given his age and waning popularity while also effectively freezing the field for Rice, President Harris and other potential presidential hopeful Jonathan Da Mayor, of course, as you know, we can. I spent a good bit of time at Washington last week. I can't believe it here. We are we not even through his first year and which are hearing people talk about and restaurant is going to run again. He says he's gonna run again his peoples, but is he gonna run you get These little were early to be worried about that, but Washington seems transfixed with less question. We are running a Jan. Oh, please is the question I mean They can start worrying about this a year and a half from now I say Washington last week in your right. This is what people are talking about. There's always beltway chatter anxiety about the incumbent president, but

think this deserves a little more examination, someone, because not just because the president's age, but also because of while he was running last time in TWAIN campaign. There were some others unspoken suggestion by some more whispered suggestion by someone is advisers that that this may be a one from president that there is the idea that he would be short of a restore them you restore the office, the dignity of the office and then be A transition figure to the next generation Democrats be clear presence. Inner circle never said that Joe Biden himself has never that and president has said privately and publicly he is going to run again. He has every you're, not gonna. We should take him at his word. We should believe that he will now. Obviously the cab you got here is even if he were to not run again. You would never admit that, of course you have to look like you're running again, because the minute you dart you a lame duck and your political capital vanishes. But that does not seem to be the case here. Twenty four is a long way off. This is this speculation.

seems premature. The president has said, but probably anti closest confidence. He. To run again and yes, there, about the vice president, their shattered their democrats who might step in but for now we should take him at his word that he will be a candid again for election I got to keep in mind where the chatter comes from, especially with former president Trump and his cronies, probably feeling a lot of that. I mean I spoken to. People spend much of the day with a present every day they say he's incredibly inspiring and again never arrest. Me Joe Biden, people make the mistake they always do as for former President Donald Trump, if you plans on again and twenty twenty four, an ex adviser reportedly has a strategy to convince and not to the Atlantic's or Nicholas reports quote, anticipating that trunk may not know who Adelaide Stevenson was for that

two straight presidential elections in the nineteen fifties, this x adviser figures he or someone Else- might need to explain the man's unhappy fate. May I remind tromp that if he were beaten and twenty twenty four, he would join Stevenson as one histories, cereal losers. I think that would resonates a person who like others spoke the condition of anonymity to talk more freely trumpets, losers. Stevenson we're governor of Illinois was debated by former President White Eisenhower in both the nineteen fifty two and the nineteen. Fifty Ex general elections. He would also go on to lose the democratic primarily to J F K in nice. Is that clearly k I've taught to people. most Donald Trump for you, now. For several years now, leading up to twenty twenty and you're talking to them. Yet how, as people talk about Twitter, when he for, of course, the

take is, of course, I'm drums. Gonna run. He can't he can't stay away from the attention. He loves detention, those costs to say the only thing that that there is more driving for him than winning an election is fear of losing their election. He can't stand the idea of being a tutor Loser question is: will this stop here, even if he doesn't know Adelaide, Stevenson is without stopping for running twenty four look he may not know is this: History from the nineteen. Fifty is very probably noses history with his father, and there is clearly something in that relationship Joe. Where Donald Transfer this seems to sit there on his shoulder in his head. Saying you're losing your the buildings being a loser, is the worst possible thing, those that were that came out in an hour in a biography of France during the last election campaign about Donald Trump goes to the hostile

when his son, don't junior, is born in Verona trumpets aimed him. Let's call him dog Junior, I'm what's trumps reaction, what happens if he's a loser? It is the worst possible thing Donald Trump can ever call somebody else and is the worst possible thing that he could think that he is and yet he might like that alleys, and he might like the power and the idea that he is still the person that control the Republican Party and can be back in the White House and I'm sure he would love the triumph of winning but stack that up against. The smallest possibility of losing, and I agree with you the possibility of losing trumps, the possibility of winning If you look at what happened in twenty twenty, are you just look at dollar from twenty? Sixteen twenty twenty, you project that Ford and as one potential republican candidate for president in twenty twenty four told me last week, nobody what's in the campaign for them in any way,

states, if you're running, say White and Pennsylvania. You don't want him there in a general election same with Michigan, say with Wisconsin same with swing state and that tell you, all you need to know about. What's happened to his popularity even For the last year since, since election and also since January, sex and still I had on morning Joe what is next for Kyle written House, the jury has delivered its not guilty verdict, but the legal fall out could be far from over. The latest on the search for the passenger, whose gone accidently discharged inside a lan as international Airport over the weekend, and protests erupt across parts of Europe as a new wave of corona virus lockdown go into effect covered there are also on the rise across the. U S will be joined by doktor, Anthony FAO, cheat to talk about. All of that, as we had entered the Thanksgiving holiday,

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have been issued for the man who fled from Atlanta International Airport on Saturday after his gun went off during a search of his luggage official it was an accidental discharge, but it caused a panic among HOLLAND. travellers is some believed. A gunman was sighed the terminal according but here say an officer was checking passengers band after an x, ray machine, attentive a prohibited item when the bag was and passenger lunged and grabbed the fire arms which then discharged. Police are still looking for this aspect. Forty two year old, Kenny Wells, he ran out of the security line and exit at the airport with the gun words breathe life from it led international port in BC. News corresponded Tom, Costello Tom. I can't even get shampoo through I say checkpoint, sometimes how this guy gone being facetious here, how

the guy, have gone its discharge. He grabs it and then make- set out at the airport with authority stopping in well to be clear: he did not get through the checkpoint, right, the checkpoint did its job and it spot of something that what he should not had. They pulled the bag of Cyprus, their restraining here late launched for the bag. Apparently remembering he had a gun in there and what he lunged Ford and grabbed the gone. It won all thanks Nobody was hit by the gunfire, cheat and grabbed the gun and ran out. The extra now keep a mine. He wasn't yet on the secure sign of the airport. He was still on this side of the airport and you know what do you say check points they have t say officers there, but they don't have cops. They are normally right, the police are with them. I don't know you know. few minutes of response, but are usually not standing right there anyway, this costs massive, as you would imagine of stampede on Saturday happening.

During the afternoon. Thousands of people scrambling afraid that there was an active gunmen. They act. issued a ground, stop all ground air traffic or ground plain traffic was grounded, as you would expect. Ass. They search for the suspect they immediately identified him build because he, given his eye the right, so he they knew they were looking for and the Cotonou immediately. This is they wanted Phelan forty two year old, many well. She has a history with the police department, and so now they are actually searching we're gonna, but guys at the other. Important elements of the story is that Atlanta leads the nation in gun. Complications Aetius checkpoint Just this year, they ve already confiscated four hundred, fifty that's what One day confiscated this airport, as you know Your has some pretty loose gun lobby, right now and the other states that have high gun cover, patient razor tears. Checkpoints also have lose your gun laws and soda.

This is, what happens when you have looser got lost another lesson pulleys nobody. You all right now in Atlanta they say he is well known to them. so so Tom you don't make, and I have been travelling a good bit over the past three or four mites when, we first started travelling again There were a few empty seats in there, but even book or we got in the holiday season. You get on most lights. Man they are packed, people are ready to get moving again, which I, of course he is great news for The airlines for the airports for all of us, one is this holiday week and look like I would guess, and so many people stated our last year. You're probably expect really busy one archer you're absolutely seen break out traffic and travel. We should say two point: two million passengers every single day, so that strengthen the thing

giving serious so we are getting back very close to twenty nineteen Thanksgiving travel levels in all about fifty three million people will be travelling Kieva. My most people are travelling by road, but the reason we're watching the airports is because, as you know, over the last few months we have had several airline meltdowns we'd have american and southwest and spirit stranded. Thousands upon thousands of customers, actually hundreds of thousands of customers, and so the pressure these are those airlines to, in fact deliver on their promise that they say that they are streamlined operations that they have stepped up, that they're ready for this listen. As you know, the big variable is whether, if they get thrown the weather, curveball tat could really happen. Or operations, thankfully, with the exception of some wind and rain, he's caused. Things are looking pretty good for now. Of course we didn't gotta get into. The Christmas Holidays, Susan, but keeping in mind how much pressure on the airlines. American has offered their pilots financial incentives to work over them

Nowadays, the pilots have said no thinks that the problem is not with us to problems with management and they say antiquated scheduling software. That's why they ve had so many issues southwest offer their people frequent flyer points if they work over the holidays and there they kind of gonna mixed reaction from the South West employees, the press, resolve those airlines or particular guys Tom one final question, just sort circling back, you may already reported on this, but never heard it when Southwest said that knelt down the little causing on my time and money there is Who believed that it was because of the current vaccine requirements. They were denying that the pilots Union was denying that have we given grasp on what what cause that, I think is like a seventy five million dollar melt down for the combat. What cause that meltdown. Every single person. I've talked you from the line pilot to manage

To airline exacts to Airline Annesley all say this was not about a covert pilot protest zero chance of that. They say the price, One was the first of all southwest, does not up a normal carbon sports programme, in other words, if they get behind and one airport, for example, Delta and at last a right if they have a problem. In that way, I have lots of back up. Cruiser can jump in and immediately take over. The next, like South West does not operate a typical happens for programme they got behind because of whether in Florida, then they haven't you see in air traffic control issue for a few hours, and then they had military flight ops over that project. or Friday and Saturday, and as a result, they got Hi did snowballed snowballed, snowboarder took them days to catch up. I talk to you and analyse. Who said listened if this had been another typical airline that has not happened spoke Programme South was probably would have been ok, but everybody has to

This has anything to do with pilots protesting the vaccine, guys I will just tell you what you know. I've been on my six hundred and thirty. I've been two hundred and thirty city. So far this year I flown a lot. This year I sat in front of it. European Airlines pilot about two months ago. he was dead, having rights where he was going to another location, and he was saying behind me didn't know who I was griping and complaining loud enough that everybody on the playing could hear about having to be vaccine. and how this was absolutely against those rights and he shouldn't have to have been vaccinated. Meanwhile, he's surrounded by paying passengers who are sitting there with asked John presumably want to know that their sight so There is not a bit of a dichotomy there in terms of the airlines trying to message that you're safe on board their planes and some pilot still specifically merit airline pilots there's there is real, relax reluctance there to get vaccinated among some in the union, not all, but Solomon, while yeah

Tom Costello. Thank you so much for your reporting this morning, thanks for being on so coming up with, The verdict in they Kyle Rittenhouse trial. Coming up one morning, Joe President Biden reacts and also how the defence attorney reacted as well what he said about how some members of Congress came out and supportive written house, some even offering him jobs. What the defence attorney thinks about that that's next, this message is brought to you by regeneration. If you have diabetes listen closely, because your ears can help your eyes, excess sugar from diabetes could lead to high damage, envision loss or even blindness, and you might not even notice it at first. So remember now is the time to get your eyes checked. I care is especially important with diabetes, see a path forward with actions and potential treatment options that may help your eyes and protect against vision, loss.

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men. President Biden set Empower quote. While the verdict in Canosa will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned myself included, we must, to acknowledge that the jury has spoken earlier in the day the president had this to say. I stand by what the jury has concluded. The jury system works and we have to abide by so you know I jumped on a mere that's exactly what we want a president to say there. What he said in the club I could have done without the delayed or on what he's talking about being angry and and concerned, and everything I understand there is a political element, but when you present United States is something Donald Trump would never do. But this is what we expect. Our presence to do here I dont know what the jury saw, which is where he is. What we all should say, which is The verdict comes in, we weren't there. We want there.

During our Jays verdict. We didn't hear everything that oh Jays jury heard right so We already have their opinion before, but after that the jury speaks the. Our system and the President said that and then he went on to say we have to for the jury system. We have to trust it it. It reminds me of what Churchill said about democracy. Democracy is the worst form of government in the world other than every other form of from its ever been created. That's how I feel about the jury system. Maybe it doesn't always get it right, but it's it's. The law and it's the best system in the world. Our rule of law is the best in the world, and I thought that present spoken statements. They are not not what he said later on with spoken statements. There was exist what we want to hear from republican or democratic presence and changes.

Line it. The second statement, the one it was put out on Twitter and non. Why how specialist was certainly a nod to the politics of because his initial statement on the White House lawn we do some ball back from members of his own party who were upset at the verdict, but what he said there, getting it. I think you saw what his instinct was. I talked urinate afterwards, who said: look the prison at a time that was what he was going to say, one way or the other than that of what the verdict was, and, let's remember earlier in the year, he got in some trouble during the foot case in soda, where he suggested it when the jury went deliberations when he hoped the verdict might be and later privately express rule privately and then probably express regret that he did that he does believe the jury system should be it's all matter should be free. Side influence prickly from product this and none more prominent in the present I'd states, Europe, His predecessor would not have done that. He was happy to put them on the scale and each time he could There is no norm when it came this. He wasn't happy to shatter. This present handle things differently, but the later statement was a nod to the politics of the moment:

railway, sibilant people, a people get upset on Twitter, like people say what they're going to say: prayers. United States needs to say. Would Joe Biden said coming off the helicopter and again I'll say that for years, eight years from now, whoever the president is respect the jury liberation of process and by the way, in this case and very late spring and right now, former prosecutor, Charles calmly, Charles, I know you'll agree with me in fact, went when I first became Lawyer. I had area, you know me: mentor said Joe here's the deal jurists I usually get it right get out. Ninety percent, campers are: eighty percent goes to ten percent of the time your gun we get a verdict, the huge stone, understand it's gonna work against you, you're gonna think it's the worst verdict ever and there can be an ten percent the time when you're gonna wanna case you just don't deserved aware he held it for the most part it why

is itself out in this case it people not like the verdict. Charles, I would guess you probably agree with me. They need to change the laws in Wisconsin. So there's not then carry of a our fifteen. They need and change the laws of a group of which it was constant. So this sort of reckless behaviour is penalised by law, but until they do that jury follow the jury instructions right, we'll go on that point. I do have to agree If you, I do think that for a lot of people, particularly in the public who did not watch all the elements of the trial and all the different things that went online, they may necessarily have understood what it was that was prompting the jury to make the decisions that they made. They may understand what the facts word that ultimately cause the jury to render the bit the verdict that they do. and so that's why you may have some of the public outcry, and I do understand- and I agree with you that want to certain level you have to take your verdict

Did you get your verdict the same way? You have to take your jury as you find your jury. However, there Is one friendly amendment that I have to offer to what you had to say around President these comments on a certain level you have to to stand how we unpacked Rittenhouse verdict has greater implications for whip. What we do, what we do going forward. Will you talk about needs of racial unrest, particularly high periods of racial unrest in America. How we have conversation about what happened to carve Rittenhouse because of carve Rittenhouse? has broader implications, because what happens now situation where there is a greater period of racial unrest and someone does not like protesters or why are protesting and decide that they want to try to take advantage of this. Why should I use covering Rittenhouse as an example? Now what I do know course, the law, as you talked about in Canosa, was not necessarily the best is. As we talked about sort of last week, there was an

he'll battle that the prosecution was facing. The just didn't do them any favours. Of these things coalesce into a situation that did not bode well for the prosecution, so that's the technical side, but when you talk That does not want a larger level. I think is important to understand that, from the moment that Cow Rittenhouse pulled the trigger, he was he's going to be a martyr or hero and understanding and dissecting. That principle is really important in the law. Your conversation about what this really means, where an end Charles again, I just want to underline the point, because our people that lead were were angry and upset about the verdict. understand that what I'm talking to what the present the United States should are shooting. I'm glad you're buying said what he said, but I certainly understand people being angry upset. I guess what wit but frustrates me as they can continue to get angry up said, but unless they dance in less Start focusing

on winning local state house races on checking everything that your people complaining about like the written. How this week, I think I hear we see a lot of complaining about the Rittenhouse work. I understand that, but it was the law, so changed the law got lacked Look if you, if you don't like local Democrats, when raises in Wisconsin her people complaining about gerrymandering, ok, well, that's just doesn't happen they did it is. Is that like, like yellow with it, does descend down from the heavens that happen. Because of the impact of election. So I guess that's my point and and and what A strikes me as that that so this last week you you don't let the jury instructed you're talking about what the actual law was resolved. Events meant the secure, had an uphill battle from day one because the law

what the hell was in Wisconsin know: you're, you're, you're, correct, and I do. I do think that the court now becomes what is the plan going forward when you see a verdict like this will have an outcome that does not work. What is the playing going for, but In addition to our talked about last week with respect to the law, I also talked about privilege and there's a certain level of that. crazy role into what we saw and how played out with respect to carved wooden house in this verdict, but strictly legal standpoint. You are correct. We do have to talk about what are these laws antiquated? Are we think people who are going to write laws that our contemporary and speak to the needs of our time and, quite frankly, The conversation was a big part of what ended up happening in woods. Com it was hardly putting judges on the bench are going to abide by the rule of law and hold and not make things a kangaroo court we'll meanwhile Kyle,

Britain, houses lawyer is slamming republican members of Congress for saying they want to offer his client a job on capital. Health. At least two Rob Lookin congressmen said they would like to hire Rittenhouse as an intern defence lawyer mark sure to accuse the Republicans are trying to cash in on written. telling inside on Saturday. He thinks it's quote. Disgusting Richards all also rebuked Donald Trump June, or who, in its weight, that has since been deleted, encouraged people to support a Rights organization. That said it would a ward Rittenhouse an eight hour fifteen for his defence of gun Rights, Richards told insider he's an idiot. I don't have to expand on that, because it speaks for itself, the defence attorney. Also said he was against a film crew, follow

the eighteen year old throughout the murder trial as part of an upcoming fox nation documentary. I do not approve of that. I was to monitor several times. They were suggesting, Fox or some other network. I don't think a film crew is appropriate. Or something like this, so big loud. There were Really, I can't even say unfortunate things that were sad. I gotta get to say that we're thing said that sounded like came from members of a fascist party where people selling fighting the Rittenhouse verdict. going online members of Congress going on lie. Celebrating that verdict

and saying now go out, be armed and dangerous. I want followers to be armed, endangers only careful exactly the exact quotes, but that was that was the general play that we don't want to give any of these people any attention. You look at What Don Junior said about getting him an hour fifteen. I think I think tubular dead. Now is caused enough damage with a our fifteen done. So the fence. According to the jury, So, according to the law and end could give one example out for another. But there's there is: is this just a growing list of quotes from members and cut republican members of Congress calling for acts of violence or having campaign fun razors, where they're holding.

Our fifteen or military style, weapons and and and targeting other members of Congress, we of course know what the Arizona congressmen did last week, an enemy. Getting and killing in this cartoon a figure that was supposed to be I also see this is mounting there. Consequences We all ask republican leadership to condemn this, they refused. This is Kevin. Mccarthy is refused to condemn any of this and its happening inside his way. This how fascism grows. This is how violence rubs. This is why people stand up at tromp events, Trump Affiliated events sang windows to start using our guns. You know Joe, we

can stipulate to a couple of things: bad law, a bad case. Some bad lawyers we can. We can stipulate to that, but we no that tell Rittenhouse has become a consulate because to trial bore the burden since of panic in the country, There is a sense in which Cow Rittenhouse defended himself again the marauding mob and, like We must defend ourselves because there are those who believe that right, Work is under siege, and so here we this young man, seventeen year olds eighteen year old, who has now become the poster child- This sense of panic, this sense of grievance that entry is changing and those folk who hold that you want to defend their vision of America with violence We saw it in January six, we hear it, in their voices were here. We see it on television and so part of what I think. People want we hear from the president at least I wanted to hear from the president, Joe

is not only the kind of words about. We must respect the verdict of the jury. That much is true. But the jury's verdict enters into an environment where violence on the horizon the threat of a kind of civil war country is wheel and people that their lives are in jeopardy, and I think I have a piece coming out in the world we oppose later on today about this there's a kind, of madness at the heart of the country rooted This is insistence in what I calling a white innocence Joe. We talk about what I mean by that and that innocence is act embodied in town. and then finding him as such because he represents their desires, their aims, their ambitions, it's very dangerous job. We have to recognise it as such. Well, any, except that totally appreciate it,

I agree with you here's my point and its and I think it's medical. The Democrats especially take this on board. It Eddie. My point is this:. after the jury comes back respect for Jerry. Change the laws now listen, you want to go out and have marches and violent twenty five million people marching, ah some but Publican Amaze says: what are you doing there during those marches? Are you getting people's names? Are you getting texts? Are you are you asking them while you're marching? Are you go to knock on doors in the campaign next year. Are you going to make phone calls next year? I under stand, but here's the thing- and I dont want people to get angry at me. telling you what happened while a lot endemic were marching in twenty twenty. You know republic. we're doing? There

knocking on doors. Now you don't like it because it's cover they understand that they were can endorse them, making phone calls. They were doing the things. allowed them to shock Democrats in the Senate. And in the house and in races and then of nerves, races across the country. I guess what I'm saying is organised organised organised, but that organizing it has to be about knocking on doors, making phone calls planning signs in yards cause vast he had changed the law and that's how you make sure that next time something like this comes up, the jury gets other instruction they have actually respect rule and order Joe Joe, I hear you doc. I hear you ve been taught about this force for as long as that bit on the ship, and let me just this week we say all the time, the two things to be true it. What's so what you said, absolutely right. We need to change the law, but what we

Have we been saying throughout this trial? But if it was a young black teenager within our fifteen, at a magyar rally. Even the laws on the books in Wisconsin, as they are the law. would not have been the law, the plot equally, at all you know as well as I'd know if that was a black teenager. Even with the self defense laws on the book, in Wisconsin, young man would probably be dead or he would be to prison right now. So there is this since, and I just want- because we ve been talking about this for a long time. Obviously, I've we I'm awake now right, we ve been about this for a long time that right there used to be this. These two senses of justice, This moment when that is felt, to appeal to process to appeal the process to appeal to changing the laws. Doesn't map

to the reality of the felt and lived experience. If that makes sense what either that makes sense you're talking about why what would have happened like wait. What would have been? likely to happen Don't get what did happen now? Let me just go one step back from where you workers and set it on the show If it were a seventeen year, old yeah black man with an air of fifteen hanging around his neck looking into hot zone like that in going up to a point, officer? story would have ended there and It would have been told to get back into his car and go back to where you came from or ill you'd be arrested for fill in the blank That's what I think it's a. U people talked about this and show, Maybe you can comment on this to you: can jump in here people caution about the fact that

care to illegally carrying a gun. It was said ten years old. He walks up there sure, like all the other sober, yeah and walks out, two cops with it. If I don't, I think Republicans can agree with this too. It was. They just want to lie to themselves. If of under age black kid with our fifteen was hanging around his neck and he walks up to police officers that's the end of the story right there. They ask him for his idea he's under age. He gets arrest, I can imagine I'm just saying that we disagree with obvious knowing absolutely right. That's a point that I made on the show last week and when we were talking about this in the midst of the trial, but I do think that when you too, what about the larger conversation? I think that's also what Eddie and I both getting out when you talk about where President Biden He ended in this discussion. It's not

equally good enough to leave it in the hands of the jury, for something that has such greater implications if we famous phrase where we knew that their work going to be hiding periods of racial unrest in America, such that they would prompt the type of protests that has left Jacob Blake now a footing. In it the destroyed story that started with him, then we be able to live with a conversation about this. Simply being about that jury, but we That's not true. You know it, and I know what you know, and I know that we are just one incident away from another series of protests. We have just one incident, one car stop away for another sort of closure in that happens all over the United States regard racial reconciliation that we ve been dealing with for decades now, and so because of that, because we know that we are like, to see these circumstances again? We can't just simply say: what's up

it is up to the law we have to act. extra realised the conversation itself from my perspective, and I believe that is what Eddie was saying as well, it is so irresponsible for for the President to These remarks about Canosa just to the jury, and they say what I juggler the jury. That's it. I understand he came back and tried to clean it up on twitter with respect to a law? your statement and indeed be more political, but at the end of the day, it's very important that we have these conversations in proper context in limiting this to just what happened with car White House, despite the fact that they were right outlaw is spite the fact that I think the inviting was it was that that's not good life, yet the three of us could sit down men and about three minutes the latest statement, we would want the present. This egg is, I think, we're all kind of say the same thing and made me that statement says what the present The first part we respect the jury. At the same time, if you were angry

If you now sat here then than I stand that lead change, the law, let's organise, let's vote, let's make an exception. Out of that sort, but I do agree Eddie final thoughts. I I think, I think, we're all saying very much. The same thing here is for is respecting the jury, but, but king indifference and changing things as we move forward, joy We need to be very, very concerned about what the Tucker Carlson's, what the mat gates, what the pall goes. What goes on in all these folk are doing. I don't be surprised if, as Ellie Missile said in his nation article. If Carl Rittenhouse is speaking at the republican convention, don't be surprised, If he's not put out there kind of example, of white grievance defending itself as a justification? for arming yourselves to defend the America he's going to be the darling of sea pack. You know this job, so we're gonna

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