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Morning Joe 12/11/20

2020-12-11

More than 100 House Republicans on Thursday signed a brief supporting the Texas lawsuit aimed at overturning the election results in four battleground states. The Morning Joe panel discusses.

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See bowling branched icon for details, we need to send him back. because a republican majority could be the last line of defence to preserve All we ve done to defend this nation, revive our economy preserve the God, given liberties we hold dear, we need to hold the line, George, so way. Oh, if I'm confused what he said, the last line of defence rochesters well there's no other line of defence, bind them set out the presidency right so that would mean Joe Biden President Frozen, so you better, like some Republicans Georgia, protect God, given rights, we all hold dear dear, like being able to vote knowing that our votes will be counted, knowing that
others will not commit treason against the United States and undermined the constitution by trying disallow our votes if they don't like them. Come of the election, like strong men across Erica, really what you say I would like some body now they're defending those costs. Shall traditions that we hold dear. I just wish, or public felt. The same way you I mean it's bad enough that my pants The Republicans at the highest reaches of government are doing what they're doing over the last five and a half weeks, which is looking the other way. While the present tries to pull off this lane coup. But knowing the worst part, knowing that it's wrong, knowing that its false. Knowing that Joe Biden is the present like they all know, they all say in private they're calling Joe Biden to Congrats laid him, but they're going out and again their signing on and Congress to these letters and these these amethyst briefs too soon.
Law suits their fraudulent, its increased what they're doing and they're doing it nowhere they're doing knowing exactly what they're doing and that's the hell of you have. You have overall, really read members of Congress who is Gary Kasparov said somebody knows this from the Soviet Union. Signed on to a seditious act that. As sedition against the United States of America, some my colleague treason. You certainly have a president trying to commit treasonous acts. And please please please, please don't believe Me- Your friendly neighbourhood, cable news housed in TAT country lie. Please don't believe me. Do Understand, though, If you are on that last history, Wool record here- was doing nothing short of trying to we're, throw a legal democratic election. There
accuse you of sedition? word trees and will certainly be bounced around for you, the girl. Now, what do you do the same with the attorney general so that are get lining? behind a guy. Who's already are had. He been charged with a felony is now he's here, drifter who's, trying as been set did say is good, you're really whose just try to get a pardon from Donald Trump, and you have sixteen other Republican. Attorney general's again. putting their name on a list that history will record as being sedition at the very least and is actually one The attorney general's against this dude has calling its addition, but it is sedition and again Perhaps historians will consider it one day to be trees and that that day understand the Joe Boys
One this election, they understand there are no legitimate lie gold challenges, and yet they still trying to overturn the results. of an american presidential election. It's never happened before this is The greatest threat actually do. African democracy, since the confederacy, of course, they're not going to win because. Thank you We still are. A nation of laws, but that doesn't erase the fact that they are trying to overthrow a legitimate presidential election. It is it's a roll call for history. You put it very well. That is a roll call for history, all those one hundred six Republic Congress, men and women.
Their names on a list that will not be forgotten by history, it just won't be and they're doing it enthusiastically and perhaps no one more enthusiastically joy. I show you this piece of video, then vice president, my hands watch the prince clapping as he gets off air force too at a full jog in Augusta. Georgia sprinting at that stage, while they collapse bounding up there to make the case that the migration should be overturned, Joe fat is some ants clapping, going back and forth once a year later, and I also such I love print in its good. It's good exercise, France could arise here, but anyway, it's by, but my certainly knows better. Everybody around the present knows better those attorney general's, no better over one hundred members of Congress no better, but despite the fact that no better, and despite the Your screen is going to be feels once again with the joys of Keynesian
soon, prance, clever, clapping, Pentium ask laughing, say three times he is here he's under its time does not giving us a comic relief Costa. Genuine. These members of Congress understand that Donald Trump Lawsy Election, every whatever they ve seen they ve seen the evidence or the lack thereof. They seen the court rulings. They ain't seen tromp appointees across the country. Eviscerate. From lawyers as they come in with absolutely no Evans, just conspiracy theories and yet for one hundred sign on there's something that seems to be low more than sedition, Julie,
keep talking about history, rendering a verdict on these house Republicans and others who are signing onto the president's cause. But what they're really worried about is the verdict of their own voters and they want to say they went to the brink to try to help President Trump, but privately, all of them I haven't, met one privately, who says that this is really going to work. There's a few the conservative world, who believe the Supreme Court as some kind of outside out of hearing this and then moving forward in the presence of Aver but very low speculations that this is going to go anywhere. It's about signalling, port, rather than actually changing the election? Well, This is all happening, of course, which is just stunning and staggering on so many levels. As we know, deal with the major story in front of us right now, and that is Pfizer, pastor, critical, milestone after an independent panel of experts, overwhelmingly voted in favour of reckon.
ending the FDA, authorize its covert nineteen vaccine for emergency use in people ages, sixteen and older, so ten or in favour of the authorization for against with one person, abstaining from the vote one committee member urged continued studies after two people in the UK had severe allergic reactions after receiving the vaccine. According to that officials. The initial shipment of six four million doses we'll leave warehouses within twenty four hours of being cleared by the FDA. The agency- likely to do so within days and healthcare of a nursing home residents will get first priority, as deputy marshals say they are working hand in hand with operation warp speed personnel to provide security for covert nineteen vaccines from the facilities or they are men. Actors to distribution sites
This comes after US in straight day of all time. Eyes for cases and deaths from the Koran. Virus and be seen This data shows that U S added more than two hundred and twenty five thousand cases and thirty hundred deaths yesterday this see the writer gave the sobering news yesterday. That covered contain as now the leading cause of death for Americans, but I thought it was just like the floor now and because what my friends kept telling me. Wait. Donald tells us it's just like the flu covered, just like flow is. It is really just like the flu well, another country's. What why are they gonna break down? Why did they ever believe that it was slight the flu. It is obvious that it was never did just like the flow Joe. Why did you allow yourself to believe that? Why did you allow yourself to go? When do I called that would be
responsible for the deaths of people across this conjurer talking going to middle American Donald Trump. But Donald I'm talking about me it'll, who supported Donald Trump and said it was just like the blue. Even after Tromp told Bob Woodward on tape there was much worse than the flu and it is worse the blow all because why? The numbers even surpass heart disease and cancer. Probably for the next sixteen find me days we're going to have more desperate day? Then we had a nine hundred and eleven where we had a Pearl harbor and the reality. Is the vaccine approval this week I can really impact, I think, to any degree for the next sixty days. The? U S, cove at project, also reports, a record number of people were hospitalized with the virus yesterday, one written. Seven thousand people went to the hospital joining us now.
Then Gupta. Here's a public and then Bc News medical contributor we have good NEWS who have really bad news, the Good NEWS, obviously scenes are coming online. The bad news is this cold dark, whether that by had warned about that I'll wait. A second proud. You had warned about back in April. In May, when President Drum said, o covet wasn't coming back in the fall, here in my God, it's far worse than ever Good Morning, Joe you you're dead right personal. Online service right now. What I can tell all your viewers right now is that but worse what we're seeing in Seattle, as are seeing a crisis in the five states around us. I was just an ice you last night we were
having Americans life lighted from places like Alaska, from Eastern Washington Places like Montana, sick, deadly, sick meeting lifesaving care on arrival and Joe. These are individuals as young as eighteen, as all as old as eighty eight and here's a critical support Jane Limitation, etc. For our say, it again see in people's lives in the Icy requires resources that we just do not have its scales it. This is the critical piece here we're thrilled beyond belief that made next week we're gonna, be getting vaccinated here in places like saddle across the country ice. You providers urgency. providers, so there is relief. But the CDC director is correct, but about my did you terrorist predicting that five learn? Fifty thousand plus the merit and will lose their life. If, for your, not adhering to everything, he'll be adhering to if governors are
put in place common sense policies, like closing, door, dining at the very least, moving ahead, the vaccine, It will not change that reality. If we're not clear eyed about the path ahead. If you look at the numbers, there are staggering and they match up with history and surpass history. First of all, overall corona virus deaths, I, the states has now surpassed world war to combat deaths. Ok, Sis trumps virus that he'd let rage out of control, and he is now surpassed world war to combat deaths in the past. Few days have been the deadliest days in this country from corona virus oh. The numbers here are staggering. This is as disastrous as it can be, and its also equally as preventable. It has been preventable and our president and the people.
Round him chose not to prevent these death was evil. There's no other way to put it more. People die Ray of covet keep those numbers up. More people died yesterday of covert than died. Pearl Harbor on December, seventh, one nineteen, forty wine they died September, eleventh, they die, in the nineteen o six San Francisco earthquake died at Gettysburg. I mean really the numbers are staggering and again what happened on timber, eleventh effect the way we looked at the world and conduct foreign policy and are still conducting foreign policy because of that that's on one day we ve been talking about World WAR to the civil war more. People have died of
Cole made is then die and combat deaths in world war. Wine world war. Two are this civil war. It is just as it is unbelievable that this president still is not. I the focus on this and that Leaders of his personality called still don't take it as the public health threat that it is yet to start from the top down, people in Congress, particular Republicans in Congress also not focused on this they're happy tweed about anything else, but when it comes to this awfully silent It's really sobering to me, doctor group does what Doktor Redfield set a second ago and that clip that not only We think this rate of nine eleven deaths every day right now, but it's going to continue that way for the next sixty to ninety days. Is there anything at this point they can be to stem that facts, which appears to be a fact.
I'm glad you asked, I will say that there are, and it's gonna be hard to hear. So let me start with some Good NEWS: The good news here for all Americans, especially parents and children, young children? We are seeing a merging evidence from places like England in Korea that, in fact, school based transmission does not appear to be happening. That's Rules should be reopening, especially elementary school young show are not directed at transmitting the virus relative to adults. That's a really really good thing really add something that we can open up enough. Safely and feel like that are contributing to this outbreak. we are also seeing? Let me just give the Good NEWS vaccine, a little extra emphasis. Sure it's safe in its effective there's been that focus on it, logic reactions, but we think that that's all individuals with very severe prior allergic reactions. So that's another piece good news whether we really can hang our had on now what we need to be doing, I Jimmy
the University of Washington. My home attitude is projecting that unless forty four additional states in our union imposed she'll distancing mandates like closing indoor dining indoor bars, the foreseeable future, while opening up potentially elementary schools Allison. Happens, looking to see Elections go from five point and fifty thousand american souls lost by the end of February into April two seven and seventy thousand that's when it gets bands of common sense policies by governors we want to see already meet a hare preach on masks, but we do know counties implemented, mask mandates by deepening. Have less lustrous health systems and those who have not said So that's key as well, Willie, we also need a progressive public health messaging campaign on back. safety to build confidence. well, lastly, say is: nobody should be travelling. Stop on travelling in dismay I said that it's gonna be the poorest.
Next year not you that will inadvertent either get infected or pass on the virus to a loved one is vulnerable that needs and Willie. I've been hearing this from families across my friends were blocked. The ice user places like Utah, taxes who travelled for them. Skipping and their loved. One is now in the ice you in some cases I have five friends you have once the issues right now. Three have lost parents just in the last few weeks and a few of them were traveling inadvertently ass it on thinking It was knocking them or their family members. You cannot travel in this house This is absolutely not there's no way can do it safely to go to win a doctor on yesterday, who was just almost moved me to tears talking about patients that she lost. She wondered if they still be here. If Maxine had been available to them as we wait desperately for this vaccine. Amateur
and let's just sit there, a tweet from Michael Bash loss, presidential Historian in autumn, crises, the friends Family of the dictator often get the best medical care. Where did Giuliani, has been bragging openly about the great care he received in the special drugs that he received when he was admitted to the hospital and treated for covert nineteen. president himself also brag about taking a special cocktail. What are the drugs that President tromp and regionally Ani and others are getting that are not available to the american public, so they can survive this and what they be available or, as the vaccine, our last best Hope Medium so glad you brought that up because the thing that did the treatments- I am glad that and is surely only is filling better that president trunk recovered. But here is the critical piece, its vital these.
the main drug that they receive them. Firstly, ninety nine percent of Americans will have access to a reasonable timeframe. Those monoclonal antibody cocktail, they call it Those antibodies that we think have proven dimness against this virus and anti does so quickly in a relaxed quite quickly, especially if you Diagnosing you have severe signal is apparent to me they had access to that. There's three hundred thousand doses potentially available. I say that a calendar year, three, thousand doses we're talking about ten, Of millions to hundreds of millions of doses, of vaccines needed quickly for all Americans The two, those regiment three thousand doses, how we're gonna equally distributed, doses, especially to people or dramatically, mild coded night
disease is just not possible. So, yes, I did get privileged treatment. There's no doubt about it. Doctor group, to one last quick question before let you get back to work here in that's about the sir logistics of this vaccine roll out, we ve talked in shorthand about health care workers, getting it. And those vulnerable and elderly, perhaps and long term care facilities. So, let's say apparently, seventy five or eighty eighty five years old, not living in a long term care facilities, but you know meets the sixty five and older standard. Can they get vaccine in this early roll out or how's it going to work, who's gonna, get it first and how Willie so, it's gonna be purely healthcare workers and those living in congregant living facilities that net space and the advisory committee on immunization practices will likely green light that over sixty five population, Other essential frontline workers and their next face turned the calendar year to repair we'll be able to go to a CBS or to a crow. or their doctors office to get life that Maxine
I thank you so much Dogma Gupta. We greatly appreciates the guys that we had her God knows coming from the hell over the past week that Joe Mansion and some Republicans, including Lindsey Ground, were working on covered relief bill and we're making great progress word out yesterday, Mitch Connell thinks that he might be able to kill it. What's the word from the hill. and that is the word Joe in the last few weeks- have been pretty revealing because the central from Senator Mansion to Senator collins- and we can do some- people can quibble over whether they should be called centres, but they're, more centrists than others in their party will leave it at that they bitch. To do their own deal about it at the the day, the centre. don't have the power they not the centre of Gravity Mitch. colonel the majority leader makes the decisions for where there are republicans are going to go and he's not trouble on told by his,
finance! What the arrangement in terms of liability, a liability she'll, be included for an amount of state and local aid, and so that stimulus deal is on the rocks How much is it just makes we're gonna lot wanting to get role by centrists in both parties? some kind wanting to prove that he still decides passes and white guys in the Senate. its poorly an assertion of control, but it's all something that lines up with what has been saying for weeks that he wants his liability protection in the way he wants it? And he knows that US secretary admonition isn't to cut a deal at this point like back in March with the Heroes ACT was speaker policy, the dynamics of change that the Senate is narrow. Georgia's on the horizon and Georgie, we can forget, is really looming like a cloud over all of this, because it is exciting republican voters in Georgia is is, breathing it in a stimulus deal
by Mcdonald's associates, isn't scene is the way to work. Georgia, but this could have a Costa and align millions of Americans are struggling in this economy. Looking for more federal aid- and you see pressure on Mcconnell from Senator Josh Folly of Missouri, a conservative public and working hand in hand with said Bernie Sanders over my democratic social is to try to insert direct payments into the package, all right we're gonna get or are they conversation in just a moment? But for some other stories making headlines now and this first one is all regarding the corona virus. Seventy one year old, Richard Hinge, the newly alike. Speaker of New Hampshire Republican, led house down, suddenly from covert nineteen on Wednesday and states in a general announced the cause of death. Yesterday morning, following an autopsy, news comes about one month before the state legislature is set to convene for its annual set
and the news will likely increased tensions among law makers in the state who have been fair, they divided over the use of masks and other pandemic precautions. Early this. We present I liked Joe Biden, Son Hunter disclosed that federal authorities are investigating, has taxes now a source familiar with the inquiry tells NBC News that those investigators are examining Hunter violence There's dealings in China and that the probe started back in one eighteen, before Joe Biden announced his candidacy for president in a state, hundred Biden said in part that he is confident a review of the matter will quote demonstrate that I and old my affairs legally and appropriately and democratically growers in the house, foreign affairs and Senate financed committees are investigating Jared commissioners real estate dealings and how it may have affected, HU as foreign policy, according to the fore
We'll times Democrats are trying to figure out whether pushers push to rescue billion dollar skyscraper in Manhattan owned by his family, played a role in president fronts. Decision to supporters, Saudi led blockade of cutter. Back into eighteen, the Christian or family, accepted a bail out from Brookfield Asset management, whose second biggest stakeholder is the government of cutter. I have been looking for help making a one point: two billion dollar mortgage payment. At the same time. U S policy shifted toward cutter in a friend Your direction bring the end of a saudi blockade that had been in place since twenty seventeen and now to an article in the new Yorker that caught a lot of people's attention this week, especially on Capital Hill Chief Washington. worse one and for the new Yorker Jane Mayor, writes about diet. Einstein, California, is eighty seven years
senior senator in apiece entitled Dian Feinstein missteps, raise a painful age question about Senate Democrats and Jane join us now, Jane thanks. So much for being with us, we're talking about Diane Feinstein right now. Obviously she s Jack Dorsey, the same question and they hearing by you- and I mean, of course, make has been on. After his most of her life, either working there in the high school in college I been up there, you ve been up their reporting. We could written this story, you could have written this story about Robert Burns couldn't written this story for thirty years about straws, ramble Armand. You have a very fine here who wears somebody is relaying. What a member of Congress was saying that Harry Red who responded by saying knock it off. We all know what you think this is this. This has been happening and in the Senate, especially for a very long time, but my guide it it is
disturbing: is it not I mean it. Isn't I and, as you say, is this- is something that everybody in the Senate nose up on a hill. It's no secret, but it's been kept kind of a secret from the american people and and also from voters, so that when Diane Feinstein ran for real, action in twenty eighteen was really no open. Discussion of this issue a foreigner but people on the hill knew all about it and Anne and it's a sad story, I'm innocent something that gives anybody any joy to talk. Really, but because she's been a tremendous force, in politics and done a lot of fantastic things, but but but what they're saying and what they ve been saying for a couple years now is she's really slipping she's, really struggling any thought to the wait where Chuck humor the Democratic the leader in the Senate I had to
Providing and so after the Amy Coney Beret Confirmation hearings, he could he's, have launched a series of very painful meetings and as well conversations with her, and the problem was that she forgot between The conversations that they taken place, she's got severe short term memory issues and and the end, so someone said to me: it was kind of like ground talk day, only more painful. He had to keep coming back and suggesting she stepped down and get relinquish the top posts on Santa committee. She just incapable of doing it so so Jane? It's interesting, isn't that both present for candidates, had their middle fitness question time and again, Donald Trump. Over the past four years, Joe Biden during the presidency campaign. Why don't we do this war? where's republican and democratic senators who seek real
action that eighty six I mean it I think it's a good idea. It's it's! It's! It's been kind of there's a culture of complicity and cover up in Congress is very decorous in some ways, but basically its being exe loaded now by social media, and so that you can go online and see die. Feinstein a video of her on on you, too, atheling same question. twice in a row without realising it of a witness and that the secrets are coming out their harder to keep and in many ways that's a good thing, because it really this countries in an extraordinary place and- and we we need people with their wits about them to try to solve the problems we are facing, a what single post bob causes where this chain and he s question Bob Jane beyond Senator fine sign. Have you heard about any of the other
older members of con poorest. Perhaps those in the leadership in for It concerns among members in both parties. I mean it's certainly a bipartisan problem. I've I did ask around about how others you doing, and there are concerns about other members but asserted Phil. I probably shouldn't put out names without doing it. This took real reporting it took. I spoke, I mean there. This was not an easy story. This was something that is for real and that people are grappling with in real time, and so here I mean it's. This is the Bush and posted a very good piece a couple years ago, where they talk to the historical Association of the hill which which showed that it was the oldest Senate in history. There were at that time octogenarian. It's fine sign for surface is now Eighty seven, the truck grass
Lee, is in place to become the next chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. If the Republicans hold the majority, he is only three months younger than fine sign his eighty seven and he's talking about running for reelection. I mean it's: it's It should be the voters who get the chance to decide these issues, but that because this culture of cover up, voters really haven't, been able to see this. Then do you know Willie, following up on Bob's question to Jane, which she rightly didn't? Certainly something that anybody that for some cat. They always herds heard of similar bombs, among Republicans and other Democrats alike. It is Emmy. You ve got people in their mid. Eighty sewer again, some talking funding for reelection agendas and yeah James right. There's an entire group of of senators who were in their mid, pushing ended operating at this point
Jane one of the criticisms when you're peace came out, everybody started talking about. It is that this was done Pratt serve way of saying are right. You know what we're finally get to speak out about this because of the comedy within Seo MIT. Why? She showed during the we Coney Barrett hearings where she hugged Lindsey Gram and she thanked him for the best here she'd ever seen- and that was a bridge too far for some Democrats and they finally said we're going to speak Out about this. What do you make of that criticism? Will I be nice the reality is that some of the progressive groups were so upset by performance during the Amy Coney Barrier is that they spoke out and, and they kind of pushed this issue into the public, so there's a half truth of other than it played a part in in publicizing this. But what been during. Those hearings was that there was a strategy the Democrats had which was to try to
trade. The hearings as an illegitimate process that was being jammed down their throats by the Republicans and when the ranking Democrat Diane fine sign at the. The hearing said they were the fairest hearing, she'd ever participated in and hugged her republican counterpart, Lindsey Gram, the chairman of the committee of Loaded the strategy that the date the Democrats had so it wasn't just can t it was also a political under right. You know just it was a. She just was not working in concert within her colleague on this, and they were very upset about it. So, what's the matter solution, then you know that Undermining someone when they you realise that perhaps there something going on or not? What better solution to this age issue. I think I'm
the problem here is that incumbency confers so many advantages because once you're in its very hard to get tossed out by the voters when you're in the Senate lecture so expensive. I think they need to try to make elections less expensive. I think the process to be stepped up and and hold people accountable in these situations and I mean, I think you know, there's the people I interviewed. blamed to some extent. The chuck humour that the democratic leader for nuts being in earlier its differ. What's the tuition, I mean this is a hard thing, one or one of the one of the people and in who now about it. Well, one of the people on the hill, the landlord said you know how hard it is to take the car keys away from an older relative Imagine trying to take us in the: U S, Senate away from someone, so I dont
pretend to think that this is an easy subject, but I again sit there. Only a hundred senators they ve got to. function. And the engine of bought at bottom lining at it is extraordinarily difficult beat a sitting incumbent. Senator therein lies one of the biggest problem chain. article as online now and in the new issue, the new Yorker Jane. May I thank you very very much still. I am morning Joe Report looking Senator Ben SAS is weighing in on the Texas law suit. Seeking to returned the election, suggesting that the Texas turning general is leaving the effort in order to get a president pardon me, we'll take a look at the Republicans boy. Sing opposition to the suit your watching morning, Joe we'll be right back
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they start com, Slash NBC News today, The opposition to the Texas suit that seeks to invalidate Joe Biden, win in four states gained a few more republican voices. Yes, they, including Nebraska, Senator Ben SAS, who the Washington examiner that the suit was a publicity stunt, the Supreme Court would probably swat away SAS added that to him it looked like Texas Attorney General can Paxton I'll. Do the pr stunt, rather than a lawsuit, in an attempt to gain a pardon from President Trump action is currently the subject of an FBI investigation for illegally. You use Power of his office to benefit and Austin real estate so it is a pr stunt, I'm sure he's trying to get a pardon from
the present the United States, but Bob I see that this pr stunt has gained the support of over a hundred members of Congress and seventeen republican attorney general's, even though their summit Ohio in Georgia, opposing it and it seems to be an active sedition and still fed crews, talking about wanting to argue the case before the spring, for which can understand, because Donald Tropic his father, murdering J K and called his wife ugly. So why, of course, wouldn't TED crews want to do that, but for an obvious pr stunt and an obvious? ass, for the pardon me sure is getting a lot of republican support I get a question all the time, Joe from my friends, people in Washington, outside of washing and why a republic it's doing this. Why are they behaving in this way? Is in president from going away, though they did want to push at the door and my answer
based on my report is always that's not what they think they do not believe he is going away, growing acceptance of believe inside of the Republican Party at the highest levels that while he may be it moral logo and in twenty twenty one he will not run from the scene. You may prepare to run in twenty twenty four, even if he doesn't he's got be meddling in primary races for Republicans in twenty twenty to so many of these republicans are operating, sometimes out of loyalty, sometimes to be sharing in the address of the moment, but also out of fear. So above I mean what look at this list of a hundred and six people. I think you touched on an earlier, but are there both men and women among them who actually believe that this law suit out of Texas or this filing out of Texas has merit, or is it purely cynical as a purely not to infuriate Trump voters. Some of the cynical, but let's not forget that in some channels of the conservative media there is a belief
do that. President trumpet has an ability to win this election through going too Supreme Court present. Is watching these media outlets he's reading these media outlets is creating an echo chamber inside of the Republican Party, The motives are in all just to stand with President Trump and solidarity to show voters who are frustrated with president trumps to feel that they they're doing that it's about we believe in the cause and that's where american politics is going. There are not shared at this moment not share, facts and a head. We're gonna bring in the attorney general for the District of Columbia, part of the states pushing back Hence the Texas suit, plus the fight over covert vaccines the uneven economic recovery and geopolitics from the Paris Climate agreement to the IRAN Nuclear deal. go ahead to the major themes of twenty twenty one as to head on morning, Joe
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hundred million doses, ready and expecting another six hundred million doses next year. We ve seen evolve. Is this wide, where this new map of the facts in world: according to China, China is also joined Kovacs. That's the global vaccine distribution as of the world health organism, asian and other groups to try and make sure that there is Fair distribution of vaccines, but callbacks says it's not. Will you be able to get supplies to developing countries until late next year, so What this is created is this opportunity for Beijing and, what's being caught, vaccine diplomacy. Other people would call it soft power. Basically, that China is now ensuring that much of the world is to be receiving a chinese back. Seeing if you think of the matter, there is now three distinct versions of
China, you have South America, Russia, parts of the Middle EAST, particularly the Gulf countries that testing of manufacturing agreements with China. Latin America has. and given a hundred area has been given one billion dollars in loans in order to buy doses of China. Vaccines from chinese companies, and then Africa is setting priority supply, so they're going to be offering chinese vaccines to poor populations at a lower cost and its cases with countries like Bangladesh they're getting Thousands of doses for free We ve seen this web evolve these these now, parallel universes between been happening with the leading vaccine companies like Pfizer in their deals with the? U S Europe in Japan and, what's that for more than a hundred other countries in the rest. the world, and what we need to bear in mind with this is that none What China is doing is happening in coordination with the? U S and
since Janis, Mackey, Frere and Wolf on China, thank you so much will. I will turn now to deputy editor of the economist Tom Standard JUICE, also, the editor of the magazines annual look at the big stories and trends that will shape the year good morning. It's great to have you back with us. Let's talk about when you twenty one, as you point out twenty one associate with good luck as any blackjack player can tell you. So, let's hope that's right, but obviously we start the conversation with covert nineteen. We start the conversation with the roll out of the vaccines and is Janis just touched on who's going to get how it actually will be distributed? Well, that's one of the big questions. Are twenty anyone and it's going to be a debate not just between countries as we just heard, but also within countries. So you know who is at the front of the queue whose at the back of the Queue Houses to be to be taking place? What most countries with the most vulnerable populations with healthcare workers. What happens after that? Do you focus on people who, at most,
rest from the virus, or do you focus on the people who are most likely to spread it? Such a state so may I should be less risk of dying from the eldest better, but maybe more likely to be spread to get so? There's gotta be lots of debates about this week within and between countries got this phenomenon there tat. Yes, a few western countries have massive, be overruled it on vaccines and how far more than they need and ethically- there seems to be lowered optimism as a result, the base that nobody can focus which go back to normal. recently stated earlier, and twenty twenty one. I think that's also a mistake, and I think it's going to be much more of a logistical challenge to produce, distribute and actually agent people expected. I don't think most people realize there's some countries as you move down the ladder of wealthy nations that might not see it until two thousand and twenty two or two thousand and twenty three and two thousand and twenty four obvious we cannot separate the world's economy from what's happening right now in terms of public health. What do you see around the bend in twenty twenty one for work economies will this is what
Twenty twenty one such a difficult year to forecast because you ve got me interacting uncertainty of what happens with the public what happens with the vaccine and how quickly that could be rolled out with but the rebound because the rebound clearly depends very much on getting on top of the vaccine, say what we ve seen on top of the virus. What we ve seen so far in twenty twenty is that its very patchy? It's very uneven! You get this sort of start, stop affect you get different regions. Different country. Different industries more or less affected by the vaccine about again means that there's just enormous uncertainty. So it's gonna be each the other. The other thing about all this is that in many countries is particularly true in Europe, companies have been supported, government aid they have sorted froze the economy inasmuch as it were and are its
That has veil the true impact at the pandemic. It's only been not. Government support is withdrawn in twenty twenty one that will see the full economic damage caused by the pandemic. So that's another cause of uncertainty, We really do, have a handle just yet and of course we're here. They know states in the mobile fight to see if they're even will be more economic support, for carbon relief Tom, the broadcasting the Washington Post it here with us when questioned Bob Tommy, I love this issue of the economist. Congratulations! You write about the new world order under President Elect bite in what is that new world order based on your own analysis, and how is that special relationship between the? U S and UK, going to be transformed, if at all in this new era, call it a new world disorder actually because oversee what we ve seen in the past four years. as has been Donald Trump, undermining the rules based international order, and so- Clearly, there are some areas where Joe Biden can reverse things, that done
up done very quickly, going back into the pipe Paris agreement on climate, going back into them Health Organization, doing things breaching the iranian nuclear deal? That's got to be a bit more complicated and no the idea, as with the vaccine, that we can sort of thick us which go back to the way things were before, there's no going back to the pre Trump Pre hope it world. So it is going to be a very different way, Where does the special relationship fitted Willoughby? Clearly, Britain, son, Rowan traditional well as not just close ally of the? U S, but a bridge to Europe. That's no longer relevant when the UK is no longer part of European Union that so this red makes at the special relationship which is relationship on many levels between the two countries lesson than it was before the question: if you know who is that he was there, the angel Future between the- U S and a Europe, its unclear I'd, say I'm so I think the special relationship has been less it. in recent years on the dollar companies going to become even less important after breaks it as as fully
the January we have only scratch the surface the new issue, the world and twenty twenty one of the economist is out now the deputy editor their Tom standards. Thank you very much share will be reading the issue. Bob Casta. Thank you as well Mika and still, I had a look at where corona virus relief negotiations stand on capital hell, as talks the head of breaking point and law, Girls are playing the blame game embassies they say harmful, join us with the very latest
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