The Morning Joe panel discusses the latest developments in Ukraine, U.S. news, politics and the Olympics.
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Good morning and welcome to morning Joe it's only Wednesday, but it feels like we ve got a full month of news to pore over this morning. There are big stories, many on the legal front, gunmakers held to account for the mass shooting at sandy hook. What the multi million dollar settlement light mean for other victim.
Of gun violence in another shooting incident.
Baldwin is now being sued over what happened on the set of rust, where Helene a hut
was killed. Sarah Palin loses her court battle with the New York Times, as Prince Andrew settles a sexual abuse lawsuit again
TIM. There are still many questions about just what happened to Bob sag it. What is family is now saying about the investigation into his death. San Francisco just recalled three members of the city's school board, as that's the de along with the rest of the country deals with the impact of
endemic we'll will get into the politics of that and new.
details this morning about the drug tests that almost disqualified, the russian teenager, who is on track for another gold medal at the Olympics. A lot to cover this morning with us for all
we have four more aid to the George W Bush White Thousand State Department, Elise, Jordan with us. Those of way too early in white has Spiro, cheap. It politico, Jonathan, Le Maire and MSNBC Legal analysed charge
Common along with Willie Joe and me, and of course, will it. You ve got the top story this morning
incredibly busy morning and will start with President Joe Biden promising to give diplomacy every chance, in his words, to prevent Russia from invading Ukraine again. But he's warning scepticism about Maskos intentions and invasion remains distinctly possible. He says in his speech yesterday, Biden also said it is too early to assess Maskos claim that it is
troops from Ukraine's border. The? U S has not verified that yesterday,
the russian government public repose to continue the diplomacy. I agree we
give the diplomacy every chance to succeed
I believe there are real ways to address our respective security concerns the Russian
french Minister reported today.
Military units are leaving their positions near Ukraine.
That would be good, but we have not
verified that we have
verified the russian military units are returning to their home bases. Indeed,
our endless indicate that they remain very much in a threat
position.
Fact remains right now. Russia has more than a hundred, and fifty thousand troops is certainly
Craig and Belarus and along Ukraine's border.
an invasion remains distinctly possible. The press
remarks came hours at the russian president. Vladimir Putin said he does not want to war with the west and is seeking a diplomatic path to resolving this stand off. Putin adopted a more conciliatory tone in announced. The Kremlin would partially pullback troops from Ukraine's border, but he didn't
commit to a complete withdrawal, and just a few minutes will talk with Richard Hoss about these developments and later we will
joined by Secretary of State Anti Lincoln, with many questions for him, Joe, so always have today,
in grain of salt, whenever Latchmere Putin makes a declaration about pulling back or pursuing a diplomatic path, Joe, but it does
here, at least just for the moment. He stepped back from
Frank will see what happens next year. We can. We certainly will, and it makes sense for him politically. It makes sense, for it makes sense militarily it's just again: he could get into Ukraine the costs
past month, because what the B administration is done. What aunt the Lincolns been able to do with
in that administration, along with Jake, solvent others, along with our NATO allies
again standing shoulder to shoulder in
having a very robust, a robust response,
threat is really the antithesis of what happened in two thousand fourteen. It's a message that Vladimir Putin's receive.
we'll see what he ends up doing. Maybe
we'll do what is not in Russia's best interest
he's done that before, but for now,
looks like the stand off. We may be backing away from the stand off a little bit, a very clear message: Measurement Grand is going to turn now to a developing story out of San Francisco we're voters last night outside
three members of its board of education in a landslide recall election. This is a huge story. I the relatively from nationwide. This is a huge story. The recall of the age member was supported by more than seventy percent of voters. Critics accuse them of pudding.
Aggressive politics over
priorities like the pandemic, for example, the board was criticised for trying to rename scruples one,
clear and including schools named after Abraham Lincoln and die in fine style, and this is one many parents wanted to focus on the reopening of schools. Some other schools targeted were named after Abraham Lincoln S, Joe said, George, Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and even long time. U S senator Tion Feinstein the election also galvanised asian american parents. After the board changed admission.
Requirements for one of the city's most prestigious high schools so
Francisco mayor London Breed who supported the recall will now have to appoint
placement and, of course, the least Jordan. The
headline here is that this is happening in San Francisco.
And one of the most progressive cities in america- and you have pair
This is a clear warning we saw from Virginia. We can now say, even though from north
the San Francisco, you can't rights in the Virginia election in Russia
aids that schools were shut down for too long that there was too much distance learning. They were talking
critical race theory, which of course we ve heard, is not taught
and Virginia schools, but still your hearing the same thing about a rebellion, and I have been saying this for a couple years: people get really angry. Some people
in their moms basement on Twitter, get really angry tweeting out. How dare you talk about woke, Paul it, and if we
it pisses off liberals.
This off liberals as much as a pisses off conservatives woke politics
is actually Willie hurting democratic candidates, and you take that and you take
again Asian Americans, and
and the feeling set that their there
leaving preyed upon. Not just
physically and violence, but also politically and it it was
toxic mix and
a very liberal city throughout free, Progressive board members, and it wasn't even clause
Hu Jia. Oh, how happy would you being if you had one election rice
seventy per cent that waste
priority universal. The outcry from
San Francisco parents and, like you say that she reverberated around the nation, the aim
over miss
priorities in our schools when parents want their children back in a classroom and they want them.
could I have more with the river now on this alone, but later a lot to cover this morning, Sarah Palin lost her libel suit against any or times
twice in this many days. The jury return D, Vernon
in favour of the paper yesterday. Finding the times did not intentionally damage the former Alaska governors reputation.
When it linked the rhetoric of her political action committee to a twenty eleven Tucson Mass shooting this coms. One day after the judge in that case said he would dismissed the suit after the verdict, regardless
of the outcome, because balanced legal team had not acts
did with the paper had not acted with actual malice when publishing the twenties seventeen at a Torreon,
The legal standard, necessary public figures must demonstrate to claim libel. The judge
while the jury to reach a verdict, despite his pending
dismissal, so both findings could be considered if the case goes to appeal. Strong this case shows that the standard zero times ass it successfully been sued in fifty years
Sanders now so high right that
his papers. Sarah Palin would say, and others would say, could act with impunity.
I can say what they want to say.
In this case with Pale- and this is pretty horrific-
stake, that they made about zero, isn't whose that
openly hostile to her, but in
instance. Did James Bennet do what he did because
actual malice, against,
against european courts?
the standard just too high. They certainly doesn't appear that that was the case. I think that when you are looking at this, the judge
actually relied on a case that says to standard boy at the New York Times as being sued by someone else and was an EU is called, knew your tongue versus Sullivan, where they were actually sued in the same way. In that way, that standard of needing to have malice shown in order to be able to find the liable comes from, and in this case the just decided that that wasn't there, and so they ruled in favour of the times as a german verdict in a matter in terms of.
A decision
one. The merits basically saying that as a matter of law, they did not make out
officially case they were unable to have a
Where will it can be granted? This was
For the jury came back with a verdict and it was a lie:
The unusual that the judge still allowed the jury to deliberate right, but in this case, because there is likely to be an appeal, it actually is going to create a more robust record for the appeals court to review and will live,
we play in that verdict being upheld.
And Jonathan. There's, though,
I know we ve heard one or two or three justices thinking about loosening the standard from
the solvent case, but it's like
I'm gonna happen as now. It doesn't seem that way, and certainly it is such a high bar to clear particularly libel laws. Will we know with public figures and how difficult that can be as well and end. The ties also don't actually want to ask you this trust. Did it helped the times this case that they so quickly did rectify this day? They were able to quit. This distance showed suggests that I hate this was not malicious were worded. Newspaper illustrates a deadline. Industry was working quickly. People make mistakes. Mistakes are pointed out, we fix, it, won't think when you
about the judge and how the judge review these things. That's all going to be subjective so and the other one judge that may have been a great effect
than others. It clearly made a difference in this case, but I dont necessarily know there for me legal standpoint that that is going to be a definitive marker. That
can use to say well, this constitutes malice or shown showing of malice, and this does not, but certainly it appears as though, in this case the judge was way by the fact that they did take immediate action to try to rectify what they will calling a mistake, and will you know the
The bottom line here is he,
in our business.
We just need to slow down,
Don't rush debate
whether whatever the competitor is, whether in the newspaper in three, whether its on tv slow down get it.
right, the first time you know. I made the mistake before rushing on air saying things it
learned later. I should have slowed down. Look as I think that the Clinton case we are talking about yesterday, where everybody on the right was saying. Well, why is it the mainstream media covering it in this? A cover up
I'll tell you. I read the pleadings for like two or three days I called
We called thirty people. I was on the phone for about
four or five hours
cuz Monday,
and so, when you say calling lawyers Clive. What does this mean? I can't understand as it, of course,
It was very convoluted, but
a couple years ago we were, I would probably sparked off, but this
Pale in case shows you need to set back, you need it.
make sure you get it right and you don't need a rushed toward deadline because you're afraid the other. If you dont, have the story male down, don't do it.
don't try to be Q,
that applies to editorials in this case is just as well as it does to straight reporting. The New York Times admitted its mistake here. It did so at trial, but, as you guys have been saying, the standard is so high for liable to prove malice that it didn't meet that bar another story. We're covering this morning. Nearly a decade. Now, after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut the families of five children and for adults killed, there have reaches seventy three million dollars settlement with the now bank,
rub gun, manufacture, Remington you'll remember
Twenty first graters and six adults were killed and new town Connecticut the families file, the wrongful death lawsuit in two thousand fourteen against Remington, the company that manufacture the Bush master. A our fifteen rightful used
the attack the case has been
watch closely both by gun safety advocates in gun, right supporters because of its potential
provide a road map for victims of other shootings too soon,
a firearm makers, so trials common. What's the precedent here, this is the first time that anyone has successfully suit a gun maker. This is over
question of how Remington marketed this weapon to people? What does that mean for future cases will be
of all the cases that we're talking about this morning. This one probably has the greatest implications and has the widest reach, because it is going to reverberate throughout the industry not only with respect to gun manufacturers, but also to aunt Larry companies does support Gandhi manufactories. So now what you are talking about is a situation where, when it suits the where mass shooting happens- and there is lie ability or potential I visited, the question is going to become whether the gun manufacturer was openly marketing their products too.
civilians, whether the gun manufacturer was openly and knowingly trying to push their products in ways that we're going to potentially encourage violence or put their guns in the hands of actual regular people, mean
had been trained, or are we going to use them for whatever purpose this is going to make insurers think twice about who it is
under underwriting this is going to make gun, manufacturers think twice about how they manufacture guns, and so they should be seen as a very big win for the guns, safety, industry or the guns safety advocates, because people are now finally being able to pierce what seemed like an invincible sort of cloak around the gun industry of four gunmakers began.
another story: again we ve gang kept coming yesterday. They really do this when they hear the New York posts. Talking about pressure that that
the queen placed on Prince Andrew to settle this case. Well, he had
subtle? De La soon, with the woman who accused him of sexually assaulted, her saying she
trafficked to him by the late Jeffrey Epstein?
and we see new senior international, corresponding care. Simmons has more Prince Andrew
dramatically averting a court battle not
hitting liability but
clearing his name, declaring his
Read for his relationship with the late Jeffrey Epstein
and commending the bravery of Virginia Jus, free and other
survivors of sex trafficking, Virginia Jude.
reclaim. She was sexually assaulted by the prince when she was seventeen years old trafficked by Epstein severely
scary time in my life, I
been abused by a member of a royal family Prince Andrew now paying an undisclosed some to reach
it. She chose supporting victims rights. There's, no luck. We need public taxpayers. Money came towards this for the prince, the end of it
budget case stretching back two decades, Virginia Jus claims
first assaulted by Prince Andrew in March, two thousand and one in twenty ten he's photographed with Jeffrey Epstein after
Green is released from prison in twenty nineteen records, an interview with the BBC
leave you'd as it has asked if he says
not remember being photograph withdrew free in this picture. I have no recollection of S. Amazing. Misled none whatsoever
then, in January this year he loses a battle to have a New York court to about the case,
these stripped of his royal patronage is- and
he's care summons for that report to Charles Common. What does a settlement like this tell you? Potentially the the possibilities are as to what happened? Is there not releasing a lot of key information? Well, what we
Two lean, rightly reading between the lines and reading the tea leaves is that there was substance to these claims rights and you know a lot of times. What happens settlements is that people say this is not an admission of guilt in Iraq. It is not an emission of guilt, but given the nature of what is it
it's an admission that we don't want this to go further and that there is likely damaging information that could surface throughout the course of discovery. If this continue to move in. So why and and there's also, of course, the queen and everybody around the queen, saying to him, I mean he's been disowned by the family. The most part, William, apparently loathsome Charles in re
by him- and I guess what it wants to seventy percent anniversary, our at the Silver Jubilee diamonds
I think, this time diamond whatever coming up this summer. The message was sent to get this.
Get this out of the way we're all going to be looking at the queen and and you the only question that comes from this, for me is one that you know. Is it really a matter of getting this dealt with in a very
fashion in sort of trying to create
since words made quite
enough time, for that, or is it really about the substance of the matter in terms of being concerned about what other details could surface that could be distracting? There could be harmful that could come here, powers over the entire yeah yeah get no! No! No! That's all I'm saying you know like Wainwright. It is queens about you and I will get on it get in her carriage. They don't want you and all the tabloids having the latest tawdry revelation, come now think of a statement. Yes, I m. A little league commends her for not giving up and for an that's a huge change from things he had said about her in the past, so you can clean alot women as we often see that at the beginning of a loss of people start out and say Behemoth Lee. I didn't do this right, and this is these. Allegations are preposterous after money, correct and then, by the time that the sediment comes along, someone has changed their tune dramatically and we ve seen this in one. This case, a wording with me: it was one of those mistakes were made, do not make the mistake, but stakes were made a new, very courageous for pursuance right these mistakes. Our May Agassiz Voice, cyclic, we'll ever say here just in general, the maritime noticing the new posts game,
actually Strawn today, under pressure from quaint, go you get the queen reference? The band Andrew settles sex if it would mean the clown
at the bottom and then a mirror
take us inside the post today, because you know they had shoplifter
couple weeks ago. The shop
we're running out with stakes, and here we are fall up story. We have slain
and he s New York City, where they got action here and take a look. They have right here on justice inside call that the eight pages ten and eleven a near post photographer and the porter happened to be there outside a Dwayne, Rita Park Avenue when there was a moment of shoplifting and they get us out of the security guard running him down in tackling these suspect out
the sore made it clear that I keep it up for you. Let me tell you something: look here is as a a graduate of of
today only knows year report
That's a great moment by the way, those photographers myself
for the daily is for, while so the tigers, the best
they were. They were like sherpas, they said no sign sit down, be quiet. Do this do that
can't say enough about photographers exposed
daily news. They were incredibly since they are included of Arkell S yeah, it's our really true. Yes, by diverting get me started with the now. I was the starting point of the daily NEWS for a long time and is well enough. Photographers are the smartest wisest mostly January, sadly, now lay in the city. They know Maria should be how to do it. How to approach a job process, often just follow their leave, follow their late. At one point, Willie Joe we was
in Brooklyn, and they were sitting in a car and suddenly there was shooting and Joe. We started to jump out of the car to follow due to follow the follow the shooting and the guy grab him on the shoulder the tiger said son. No,
it's as one out here: let's wait for jobs and he said it was like that every day than those guys, like you, said the wisest yet the ones it kept out of trouble
unbelievable Willie
yeah. That's a nice open field tackle two by that security. Either it's the platinum jubilee. The seventieth here in the glass ranger ask another little story for you, Charles the family of Helene Hutchings is suing actor Alec Baldwin in a wrong for death lawsuit following the fatal shooting on the rust movie, said in New Mexico back in October, Matthew, hutches, the victims, husband, father, lawsuit against Baldwin and others involved in the films for
action on behalf of himself and the couples nine year old Son, he claims Baldwin recklessly shot and killed the forty two year old cinematography and that the film production failed to follow safety protocol
regulations. Baldwin, was plenty a gun at Hutchinson sat at church. During this,
of a scene when the firearm went off killing
genes and injuring director Joel Sousa
While one says he was pointing the gun at Hutchings at her instruction and it went
without him pulling the trigger the suit
Standard safety measures, such as using rubber bullets and double checking for live bullets before the gun was placed in someone's hand, failed to be executed
the suit also names the films assistant director who handed Baldwin the gun, he production manager, the films, Armourer and the supplier of ammunition, so choose
there were without question was negligence somewhere down the line here and in this story I guess the question will be if it goes all the way out: Baldwin
That is an interesting question and what we are looking at, what the filing of this lawsuit is a legal void rumble, and it's going to end up being. Who was the last man standing? What I anticipate in this case? It you're going to see a lot of motions to dismiss a lot of motions for, in some cases to be separated from this case, because many people are going to be say. Listen I should not even be involved should be named, doesn't have anything to do with this. The lawsuit, namely number of individuals. Obviously alcohol than is going to be someone whose name, because he's a deep these what's called a deep pocket plain. If he's the biggest name he's going to have the most money he's going to have people connection a gun, or even of course, he's got, but I'm sorry that producers corrections also as you so so so obviously there is the immediate sense of what would make common sense in having built Baldwin named in the lawsuit, but then from a strategic standpoint. That's also why you want a name and, as a lawyer is well in executing the strategy now what
in, is that
These motions to separate each of
plaintives come each of the defenders comes out. We will hear more and more finger pointing and more
more false will saying move will say what it is that they did what it is that they should be held responsible for and why that does not meet me
the standard for violence
the care which was necessary in this case it s only by the vat to have been the difference between I'm just being there's an actor writ pieces, there's an actor. That's one thing with
tat: he was, there is a producer as well. We heard about cost cutting measures
and in fact even shows a location for cost cutting measure reasons, insurance reasons you really just gone. You wonder
at the end of the day. How much is going to follow him and and would say,
Looking at it generally, he looks to be terribly expert. He has considerable exposure because of both things. He is the person who actually was holding the guns, so there is obviously that is because pointed out of course, but then there is the bigger angle of once said
he's responsible for given his role as a leader of that production and clear rules, both both of those angles law
terrible for him and of being able to get out of this unscathed? I can now and if you were his lawyer or what's the talk in the legal community but the interview he did with a b c. That idea, I started here before I say it again
this should not have done. It would not reckoned
those are all things that, as you get into the meat of this case, that's going
we played its part of every deposition has taken every person whose question every witness is going to look at that and the point
Where is inaccurate?
doesn't line up with the facts, words, not corroborated, and it's all going to make him look bad. The more you talk the more of a record you create, and in this case
when voluntarily for no reason other than trying to create a better
if himself in the quarter. Public opinion has now given.
every other defended in this case a lot of room to work with those who made his walls clothes in that much and analyse. It seems that you look at the interview you
How can it mean we were saying it in real time? You look at the Instagram
Post to look at and all the other things again egg. I was wandering all along his lawyer. Where's is lawyers or something like that
go dark. You keep your mouth shut, you you you you try to get this taken care of quietly.
respectfully
instead of posing for cameras and doing interviews, ditches again
Just the whole process has been lodged in some really
halfway pr measure that will
legal ramifications, I think, is this trial goes on
you know the press posture of Alex
one and then his wife. I ll area who really just while canning, get started there.
the disrespectful to the victims- and you know that you can't mouthing off in their quick defence and they kept their mouths shut. Then
Probably they will be in a better legal position by at the end of the day, and all of their talking has just made them saying like entitled, celebrities heaping on the wounds of this tragic. This tragic death would
Would you also advise everyone in the family not to be pokers? His wife is always posting. They have
uniform home and you see it just feel
I always cringe, and I think this is not helpful
not even sure why I'm thinking that it just there's a lot of instagram posting is so interesting, because this really articulate the intersection between the court of public opinion in what you should be doing legally Alec Baldwin is making all the wrong moves legally trying to do the right things for the court of opinion and failing and his family is our making moves that are virtually harmless legally, but all of the long nose and a quarter of a public opinion. These are things that ultimately, they should just be quiet about. Right. Now is not the time to behind social media. It's not the time to sort of be expressing yourself whether we are talking about the case or not given who you are and everything that you have at stake. This is, as Joe said, a time to just go down.
Its day, therefore bit women? We need to talk also about another case
a little bit or I don't have not even a k yet but Bob Saget
now, the family is moving too
suppress any public information about what happened,
so many questions about
just stay one whereby you could walk about that. Also ahead on morning, Joe Ukraine gets hit by a series of cyber attacks. What? U S? Intelligence is saying about Russia's likely involvement. Richard Hoss joins us next, two way and on the tensions overseas, plus we ve,
put it on the growing number of unruly airline passengers. Why some Senate Republicans are now urging the Justice Department not to put those people
No, a second sign so can t ways. So Republicans now are for
working class, Canadians and Working class Americans not being able to get to work because people are blocking the traffic
and and and breaking the law. So they support that
and now they're coming out in defence of
views of passengers that push
and beat up flight attendants and push
and beat up either cancel on an airplane. Why
why are they suddenly such dried and defenders of the worst behaviour, also tennis, STAR Novak, joke event cheers in backing down when it comes to getting vaccinated against covered? It seems rather miss out on future,
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thirty four pass? The hour actor Bob Sag, its family has sued florid officials to blow
the release of the comedians death investigation record? Second, wife and three dog?
filed a lawsuit yesterday against aren't
county sheriff John
Mina and the District nine medical Examiner office. They suit argues that a release of more records to the public would cause
the family to quit, suffer irreparable harm in the form of extreme mental pain, anguish
and emotional distress, the suit
seeking a temporary and permanent injunction that would prevent the county sheriff and the medical examiner from releasing any
further materials to anyone?
and then, but ultimately, the court will rule on whether to permanently
The release of information, such as information, comes out. He hit his head.
We're all think that maybe you know his head went up and he hit the cabinet or something like that or maybe fell down now
New York Times and other newspapers reporting.
The injuries were so severe that that doctors studying these type of injuries, eight looks like he felt his twenty to thirty feet, or somebody took a baseball bat to the bank
of his hair, like that's what the amount of the amount of pressure that that this right is that,
whenever it is a slip and fall. We just would not cause a sort of damage so
during a house, except for you certainly understand the family wanted people to get it to get out of. There said I inferred get out of their business here,
carry. So what is a likelihood, though, that the sheriffs apartment is gonna block these public?
Kurtz from being seen by by
people will I dont know that they are going to be entirely successful to being able to get them, blocked that degree at least giving the showing that we know does farm what we seen come out.
wouldn't come to the motion that has been already filed. What I will say in terms of seeking this temporary injunction is that they may be able to get a protective order to not to block some of the details. Awhile all of the records may not come out. What may happen is that a big portion of them that
detail what suspicions may be or war
answer some questions around the additional story that seems to be developing here. Those may not come out to the public because they may be rejected or covered under our own production and move to quickly to rule out any crime.
Activity. Here. I don't, I think,
What we are seeing now shows us that is very positive
and you know early on people just
we will move what we had in IRAN and ask ourselves how these stories develop, but now that we're seeing the type and force them meekest describe, that doesn't just happen in most cases right with slip and follow. So there is clearly something else that may be going on here. I dont want to say that the families attempting to hide something I'm not going to remedy, but I will say that certainly this sort of move looking for temporary injunction in a matter like this, given what has emerged around the details, it creates more questions than answers in Florida has, I believe, pretty significant open
its laws like it's easier- and this was the national tell my men than in other states with that- could not play this role. To ensure better chance will see so that, because of the state where this happened to have salute led the discovery of information in terms of just freedom of information being available, does change from state to state and, as you said, John Florida is very liberal in that regard. Surprisingly enough, and so when a judge is considering this temporary injunction, that judge has to consider it in light of what the law is in that state. When that state grants a fair amount of latitude in terms of information me disclose, they have to having really compelling reasons as to why they wouldn't do it, and I don't think that Bob Sagoth Celebrity or the
emotional turmoil of his family are going to be sufficient in this case, to block it entirely made like some, but not everything.
A common covering a lot of ground for us, this general twenty stories. India, thank you and coming up a new round of subpoenas from these select committee investigating the attack on the capital
this time law making
two going after people outside of DC plus protect,
Kids and teams from the dangers of social media
bill? Could help us move in the right direction, we'll talk about it with Senator richer Blumenthal ahead
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the judiciary and Armed Services Committee senator Richer Blumenthal of Connecticut. He, along with Republican, Senator Marcia Blackburn, are
introducing the kids Online Safety ACT.
Welcome. Senator tell us about this. New legislation
thanks for having me what's really distinctive about this legislation. Is number one it is by partisan, Senator Blackburn? I have worked
through five separate here
was giving those
so for media attack platforms and opportunity
if I, along with the whistle blower Frances, how again
the other experts and researchers, and
What we documented here varies
I came late,
the harrowing heart.
breaking stories of kids in addicted
dark places and destructive
emotional rabbit halls
bullying self harm, eating disorders that were the result of tat.
Dixon, algorithms, that their tech platforms, new we're doing that
what we're doing in this legislation is to give
parents and kids chores and said
Carson, take back control,
Hence tab disable those addictive product features and
to opt out of the algorithmic recommendations and pretty
their information because he's
for media platforms.
like the information, use it to target kids.
Dr destructive content to them, so you don't really is about accountability, mean the impact of new later you're, pretty effectively
the impact of this on young girls, especially self
suicide, eating disorders, substance, abuse, sexual exploitation and unlawful products for minors? They all the odds, are there? The question is
senator how we're pair
our parents empowered,
parents empowered to to
to make sure that their children are
getting this information that they're not
There are not getting sucked area in the end there, not getting sucked into an algorithm
gonna leave them like so many other teenage girls,
and young adults have been
I've been sucked into destructive suicidal behaviour.
The key question and
our objective is to require the check platforms to give
eyes, those tools and other
to see what their kids are doing, how much time
spending
kinds of products
following an
two in fact work with the kids to take back.
Power to give them information. They need to work with their children support them.
see what they're doing and
action as a result and it imposed
a duty of care, a legal responsibility.
Its enforceable against the big tech by force. If they drive this kind,
through the Black Box algorithm:
it exposes the outlines, imposes transparency. So parents will know what
happening to their kids and why it's happening. So I think the combination of information and control,
Www morning, Senator Blumenthal. I've got a teenage daughter and about to be a teenage sons on behalf of a lot of parents. Thank you, too. You and Centre Blackburn for taking up this critical issue. It seems like a good by partisan support around it. What does the future the bill look like in terms of getting it passed and what has been the reaction from these big companies in one of your negotiations with them? Then, like
great question and for its while we're very fortunate to have strong support from the
the other committees, Cantwell
and also from others on both sides. The you know,
If you sat through those hearings, any close your eyes- and you heard the outrage expressed by my
colleagues. You couldn't tell what it was a republican or democrat, so I think we ve got
really strong viper,
some momentum going part
It's a matter of what kind of time we can have
a floor life going on, but I think there's a dynamic here and
and a bill on the outside,
as well to accomplish the same as what's been. The reaction of the Tec platforms well
they said they want to cooperate, but we will see you know in the past. My experience has been in
This is my first rodeo with the cap platform that they,
talk a good game, and then they unleash their lobbyists and lawyers armies of M tonnes of money to try to kill what
station that may emerge.
with this kind of accountability on them?
so we will see our rights
Thank you. So much for my pay really going before you go. Givers gives Europe
so on on the settlement with Remington the sandy hook, families, obviously in your state
That was a landmark settlement. Yesterday,
You know, I'm so glad you ask that these families, at sandy hook, families will become personal friends, almost
My family are really profile
encourage and preserve.
The settlement is an enormous break through not only
because of the seventy three million
but also you know, the gunman
experts have enjoyed this near complete immunity. Almost uniquely
among any industry,
this settlement breaks that
kind of
impunity and mingle shield in a waiter
I think, can lead to legislation, for example, I've sponsor with
how's member Adam chef
to eliminate
the immunity they have under the current law, but this settlement is a giant step forward or entering. Let me well thank you so much and straight ahead on morning, Joe, we turned to Ratner in house on the situation in Ukraine, and Russia will be right. Back
I understand that
Not being vaccinated today, I you know, I am
unable to travel to most of the tournaments at the moment
press. You willing to pay that that is the price that I'm willing to pick. Are you prepared to forego
the chance to be the greatest player to ever picked up a racket statistically.
Because you feel so strongly about this chap? Yes, why why
because the principles of this
and making on my body are
more important than any title
No joke of it says he would rather skip the French Open and Wimbledon tennis tournaments. Rather than get vaccines
against covered nineteen in this family, safe from s a guy getting it ever get in any other actions before again. Well, you re really, maybe how again the truck drivers get their rear bay
want to destroy
Small businesses and working class people's ability to get to work
Did they get vaccinations to go to school,
did did everybody that saying. Oh, I just him against all
it seems so they get five six facts seems to go to school when they were young, did they give their kids five or six back scenes go to school? The answer to that is the US, and, yes,
and so suddenly, because
has become politicized people's sort act
like this for joke of Ich
bless him if he doesn't want to win the most Grand slams ever that's up to him.
country in free world for the most
or not so freer world. In fact, three you're bit more ill liberal, but I'd say it's a free country. Three country can do whatever he wants to do, but man for a guy who's probably probably got
A ton of vaccines and I've already it seems
like a strange he'll die on
now agree. What he just said is defensible that he's, if he doesn't want to get the vaccine is willing to charge. You know, withdraw from or not attend those tournaments and give up those trophies. That's totally on him. That's up to him. What he can't do what's not defensible is to lie about his status to go.
events like he did before the australian, open and with covered and be around other people. He can't do that.
things and also the dangerous part that you're referring to hear is that he said I've. I have my information and we
this from other high profile, people have my own information. That tells me I'm not going to take it that ignores everything we ve learned about this vaccine over the last year. It ignores all the data that shows the vaccine. He chewed healthier keeps out of the hospital. It prevents me from dying on and on and on so I am using his platform to say those things
dangerous, but it is his choice not to show up at those high people turn our three to be stupid as they want to be. I mean a bit
but it is Jotham here it is. It is galling when
Somebody singer was enough, be approved and then they're doing all these are the things that aren't FDA approved, giving it
treatments that aren't FDA approve the just they hypocrisy of it all right and he has now fallen behind raw hunted down the aisle time. Grand slams, listen won't be able to catch up, and he says he's concerned about the impact of actually would have on his body. Well, he wore
What about the impact of wear and tear off tenets on his body anymore? He's not willingly we'll play no unless he gets this facts. Alright, coming up new reporting on the January. Sixteen investigation how the committee is using thousands of text
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