I know relatively well conversations start off. I said I know you, and you know me establishes occurred then be prepared. He said you know he doesn't have a soul. I did say that to him. Yes to end his response was we understand one another? I would mean a wise guy was alone with him in his office. That's how it came about. It was when President Bush said I've looked at his eyes and saw a soul looked at her eyes and I also gave a soul of binary. So we understand each other. Look the important thing dealing with foreign leaders in my spirits and I've dealt with an awful lot of more. My career is just know the other guy, so you know better reporting, you think, he's a killer. I do

that's. President. By March of last year, calling Vladimir Putin a killer, has Putin prepares for war with Ukraine this morning, a possible new chance for diplomacy. We underline possible good morning weapon and mourning Joe is Monday February. Twenty second president's Damn Willie Geiss Joe, and we could have the morning off with a semi NBC contributors might Barnacle and Caddy K on a busy president's day. Monday morning, let's dive right in in a last ditch effort towards diplomacy. President Joe Biden in russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to a summit to discuss the ongoing crisis in Ukraine. It ass. It was made late last night by the Office of french President, a manual mccrone after he spoke with both by important separately corridor macro office. The two leaders have accepted the meaning and it would take place only only

attack on Ukraine does not take place, but White House officials say a final decision on such a summit would be made only after further talks between Secretary of State, Antony blinking and his russian counterpart, Sergei labourer off, who are scheduled to meet on Thursday in its statement of White House pressing her carriage and Saki rights. This quote: we are committed to pursuing diplomacy until the moment an invasion begins. We also are ready to impose swift and severe consequences. Should Russia instead choose war currently Hush appears to be continuing preparations for a full scale, assault on Ukraine very soon and quote. Amid these diplomatic efforts, the United States is warning. It has credible information that Moscow is compiling lists of Ukrainians to become older, sent two camps following a military occupation. That assertion was made recently in a letter by the: U S, ambassador to the United Nations. The Kremlin says you S. Media reports that Russia has drawn up. Such lists is equal.

absolute. Why this has top? U S? Officials yesterday echoed President Biden Assessment from Friday that has made the decision to invade Ukraine within days saying they entail intelligence showing russian military officials were given in order to invade here secretary, Lincoln and meet the press. It certainly looks like everything we was likely to occur in the lead up to the actual invasion is happening. We're seeing false operations taking place in Eastern Ukraine the manufacturing of provocations and justifications for Russia to go, and so all of this seems be following the script that I laid out at the United Nations Security Council. The present Biden talked about to the nation. Just the other day. as tensions escalate. President Biden yesterday, L, a rare, weaken meeting of the National Security Council, conferring with top advised including secretary blinking and defence Secretary, Lloyd Austin. Meanwhile, at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, Ukraine,

President Vladimir Linsky urge the United States and its allies to reveal their plans for sanctions against Russia to serve as a deterrent and warned about the dangers of appeasing the Russians? Russia continues to keep thirty thousand troops in neighbouring Belarus. Meanwhile, despite earlier promises to withdraw them by Sunday, satellite images released over the weekend suggest smaller russian deployments, but also show they are continuing to move closer to the border with Ukraine can be seen. News has not independently verified those images. We ve got reports from both Russia and Ukraine this morning and we see new senior international, corresponding cure. Simmons is in Moscow and NBC News. Foreign correspondent, Matt Bradley, is in car keys ukrainian twenty five miles from the russian border good morning to you both Matt. Let me start with you there along the border in Ukraine.

What is the feeling right now about whether this may be imminent? Despite all the talks and the potential for this summit between Biden and Putin, which still is a long way off? What is the feeling among ukrainian people on the ground and ukrainian officials about whether and when this may happen? yeah I mean really is a good question and something I've talking about ever since I got here a month ago. It's really remarkable the massive disconnect between what we're hearing internationally from Washington and what we are seeing on the guy. Yesterday that this hotel, where I'm standing again twenty five miles from the border, was a massive children's dance competition in the hotel. So about seven hundred children from all Ukraine, their parents felt like they could drive them to within twenty five miles of the border with Russia and they felt confident about it- It's really interesting because the fact is, it is no use hubris. Is this defiance? No, I mean they're just used to it. This is a war when going on for years and Ukrainians feel as though the threat has always

been there and its never gone away, but that is by the facts on the ground here. Just across the border. There. a huge number of arguments that are moving around wish. To see tanks a mob Mobile howitzers fighter jets and aft and helicopters that are a the border that was it was mention from MAX our technologies, which has been tracking this from the beginning. were also starting to see from MAX our and other groups were monitoring the of some of these armaments from their more permanent positions from their staging areas into what looks like a battle, preparation mode, and that's also been threatening. So the government here is sounding the alarm on that. Also up to the To where I am in there's two separatist enclaves. The russian backed we're going to see a real uptake in the tempo of fighting resorting to see a massive exchange of fire between these russian back separatists. And ukrainian regular military too,

soldiers to ukrainian soldiers were killed just over the weekend, been dozens of incidents of violence since of the terms of the of cease fires that have been recorded every single day, that number is increasing, expected it is hard to see more and more of that, as this week goes on. You know I was speaking to a ukrainian diplomat a couple of weeks ago, and he told me as long as the diplomats are talking, the guns are silent, but the fact is, We believe that, as long as the diplomats you're talking, the guns are moving moving into place their trundling all around the border, you could practically. them from where I am, and it really means that you're really just goes to show that, even as these interminable discussions going on and on Vladimir Putin is moving and in the position for a potential invasion, and we can see that from the satellite, it's very clear, willing,

yeah man. I saw that video, you posted a social media. Yesterday it was extraordinary children's dancing, competition with parents, cheering them on like it was any other Sunday, and yet there are a hundred thirty thousand russian troops just over the border, potentially poised to roll. In here. Let's talk about the russian side of this present macro came out yesterday and said: yes, I've laid the groundwork for a summit between Putin and Biden contingent on Russia not going into Ukraine. The White House poured a little bit of cold water on that saying. Well, let's see we ve gotta, let blinking, and Ralph talk first and then maybe there be a summit down the road. There is a sense that pollutants playing games here, what's your sense of it No, really, I think diplomatically speaking, you have met their talk about the changes on the ground in detail. The David Jeez diplomatic, these be. nothing really change that that's the issue. There is negotiations that present macaroni is trying to push. I guess they can

today things. Certainly, maybe we may see a delay until Lincoln and Mr Lovegrove meet at later this week. If I can do easy to meet maybe they'll delay until President Putin, President Biden can meet but The reality is that fundamentally Ukraine cranial government is going to implementing Minsk. and the Russians have been building. Dollar reserves for years and years, going back to President Putin, famous speaking speech in Munich, They now have six million thirty billion dollars more than in reserves, and when you look at that that pretty much tells you that President Putin has been preparing to this day for many many years. Why? I say that is because, when the Secretary of State- Tommy depressed yesterday, talks about massive sanctions written a visceral sense phenomena at present prejudices right, he's not and because his inner circle already sanctions. Russia is not frightened

because he has those reserves and he's not frightened to you because he knows that potentially is next moves down, the line might be to cut off the gas to Russia causing pads. What have the guts to Germany, causing panic in Germany? Maybe some kind of a massive cyber attack, an order and that really That is why there is such a huge risk here, because of course, once conflict starts, you don't know what direction it may go. So of course it is important that there can used to be efforts for diplomatic talks, but we really are in the last chance saloon ethic. Paris, caddy- you are in Paris this morning and present crony estuary really serve deserve a mediator. He spoke to President Biden. He spoke spoke to President Putin twice yesterday, both before and after his call with President Biden and again laid the groundwork, didn't set up a summit yet, but lay the groundwork for possible meeting between the two. How realistic does that look to you from where we're sitting this morning?

you're not suggesting one of there's a strong push here in Europe and I've here for a couple of weeks to really see PLO messy, as far as it will go to not accept the idea that invasion is inevitable. I think that was why we saw President Mackerel phone with Vladimir Putin for a couple of hours, then on the phone with Joe Biden and back on the phone with Latin Mapuche in last night trying to arrange this summit in order to give diplomacy a chance. We have just heard that the Germans answer is also going to speak to President Putin this afternoon, and trying to present a coordinated effort between western allies, showing that this is not just president macro going out on a limb. The french want to make it clear that there's the Germans, the Brits, the Americans and the French in this effort trying give diplomacy a challenge but in a kiss rides the signs from the Kremlin and not good. This morning, they fairly quickly through cold water, on the process ex realistic prospect of an imminent summit between June

Biden and Vladimir Putin and all the signs on the ground Things are moving in. A military direction will be interesting to hear from. You met we're watching thing change. We got this fascinating satellite images, vacillating suit social media images that we're sitting from the ground the. What what's gonna be the trigger that you look for to tell us that we beyond kind of movement of troops towards an invasion and something that is actually a war in Ukraine beyond the war we ve had since twenty fourteen Jeffrey. That's a good question. Definitely that past, especially if you will the pretext that is almost certainly gonna be happening in the east. Country in those two russian back separatist enclaves. That is what Lincoln was wondering about. She was saying that basically reading that he had predicted is starting to look like it's true. This changes of fire- are real, very ominous brightening. The UK. Ukrainian regular military. They have been, under strict orders, not to return fire. Unless it's

only necessary because all they have to do is start killing. Of these russian separatists, and then that will give Vladimir Putin his pretext to invade now button Has already said time and time again with the Russians population of Ukraine is oppressed there, even though crimes of genocide? Who said that in just the past week or two is so either. He believes that which I find hardship because we were out there and saw no evidence of anything like a genocide core. He just believes that the russian speak people of Eastern Ukraine will rise up and back his army, as they have in the eastern part of the country, I'm in our key, which is in russian speaking city people here they're more Conversations are in russian, not an ukrainian. These people are not united behind, let Putin some certainly are, but the vast majority of them support the government Chief and so Vladimir Putin believes that you will get support just because their russian speakers, I think he's mistaken

here. I understand that this is a difficult question of about to ask. If you are not permanently posted in Moscow would use only familiar with Moscow, you ve been there several times and you have sources in Moscow. You get any sense at all that a potent of being isolated from reality, isolated from more advises that used to see him more often, they see him now and most him certainly the tenor of the tone of the russian people about this pending war that the Russia seems to be about to undertake. when question about the russian people, media. Just in the past few days is shifted Morton you could call it a war footing. That is clearly an effort to persuade the some people that what might be happen should happen. Benninschein, the question about President Putin listen the Trojan virus has had an impact on his contacts with a the community, if you like, I was talking to

a few days ago, devices to and not a guy who was saying that were in the past President Putin might have seen this on once a week, have you ever she weeks but anymore, There is a very small country of advisers around President Putin and it took about have all who is able to talk to. secure lines. And these are those most of them, former KGB and they are very Line in the name, and they people to are advising him strategizing with him. So yes ever since he is isolated, certainly think his you should be limited to be there. There are aspects of things, but you don't doesn't understand, but That being said, I think we do have We call died about this, for example, when President Putin,

it made the movie made in relation to Syria many ago many there were said not a word asking be equipped. My can be disaster and it wasn't so then we should underestimate the extent which present teaching and the team around him. Ah, looking up and you'll situation king an assessment made- the judgment and, from their perspective, from their logic. They may have, some things right again and this is really crucial if we do not end up, if you do head into conflict into a war, a war is unpredictable. no one thought him. President Biden, no one has the ability to say exactly high place out great perspective. this morning from pure Simmons in Moscow, Matt Bradley in car keys, Ukraine, twenty five miles from the russian border. Thank you both so much. We appreciate it. China, meanwhile, paying close attention to the situation in Ukraine is its immense, closer ties with Russia, the New York Times

This way, current informer, U S and european officials say they are alarmed over what is effectively a non aggression pact between China and Russia. It could amount to a realignment of the world order. Humor, let him who made a great show of attending the opening ceremony in Beijing. A couple weeks ago join is now former chief of staff of the CIA Department of Defense, NBC News. National security analysed Jeremy bash. Jeremy Good Morning, you're just back from that Munich Security Conference where President Landscape, Ukraine, effectively admonish the west and said you are appeasing Russia, don't do it again, you ve done in the past, you did it and twenty fourteen look where a goddess dont. Do it again, looking for a more aggressive stance from the west on things like sanctions, what we're your impressions being there and how close do you think we're Russia and Ukraine are to war this morning Willie at the conference there was an eerie feeling because Vladimir Zalewski, as you noted, he left his country, his home country, based

Clearly, our staring down the barrel of a russian invasion, and he said I'm gonna have breakfast so my country, I'm coming to this conference. in Germany and that and have dinner in my country and people were Airbus mother, need he'd, actually get back into Kiev, whether Russia potential stay stage, a military while he was away so everybody breathe, a sigh of relief when they got news late tat evening that he had gone home his presentation. Showcased a nervousness concern, a deep concern about the russian military invasion. That's pending. Obviously, at that point pray Biden had already announced the world that point already made the decision to invade that he had given the order to invade to his forces, and so on he said. Look. I need help from NATO. I need your backing. I need your financial backing down a ban, Ukraine, and that was the overriding message and it was a message of unity at this Munich Security Conference Willie and in some ways I've been going this conference for many many years, I've never seen so unity. So much a sense of purpose from

western allies so Jeremy. We ve been hearing now for well over week that an attack is imminent, that the invasion by Putin into Ukraine is imminent. President Biden said it again: a couple of days ago, we heard again from secretary of state blinking we're getting these new reports. Then we see now has confirmed the Washington Post report about a potential kill list of Ukrainians if Russia does go in with seen the satellite imagery of the troops on the border. Do you believe this is a fait accompli? Is Putin definitely going into Ukraine one way or another look either the intelligence that President Biden announced the world is obviously accurate, which is that press Putin has made the decision to invade Ukraine. Now what I don't we know with absolute precision is extent what's invasion which will push all the to the major cities, including to Kiev, the capital, and we don't know exactly precisely the timing and, of course, that's a tactical decision that Putin will

with his military commanders. Do I think it's real simple unlikely but gotta give the, but by demonstration credit because position is hey, we'll talk to Islamic no innovation, if there's an invasion, we're not gonna, validate your invasion by some a tree. And blinking in laboratory meet on Thursday will see if they make it that long without an invasion. Jeremy stay with us much more to talk about with you on these fast moving developments. We also will talk to the Pentagon's top spokesmen Adam John Kirby he'll, be our gas coming up shortly. Many questions for him, but first the national archives confirms classified material was found at trumps Florida home, that is sparking new calls for an FBI investigation, got those details straight ahead. On morning Joe,

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Beautiful live picture of Washington, it six twenty three in the morning on this president's day, the national archives has confirmed Whitehouse records that were improperly taken to Morrow logger at the end of the trumpet ministration did in fact contain classified material. The former president return fifteen boxes of White House documents to the national archives in January, and the agency now says it has quote identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes, the national are just ass, the Justice Department now to investigate our present released statement Friday, which reads in part. If this was anyone, but Trump there would be story here. Hillary Clinton would like a word I shall archives also told members of Congress. The Trump White House did not properly preserve records from some of its social media accounts, specifically deleted, tweets and snapchat posts from the president and several top aids

It is now Washington, Post National security report covering the Justice department. Matt Zeppa Tusky met thanks so much for being here with us. You ve been on this story from the beginning, covering it closely how significant development is this and what happens now. To the former president. it reported about a week ago that there was classified information in these boxes, information that was in fact mark classified at the top secret level and above so in some ways. This is just confirmation of what would our out there, but the public confirmation itself is significant because its way to increase pressure on the FBI honest on the justice say something in do some when classified information slips out in the world generally, the FBI and a minimum wants to go and get that it that in sort of a secure facility and also understand how did it air put it? They don't like ossified it,

It is just out in the world as this was until you know several weeks ago. So the fact that the archives is now sort of saying, on the record of saying in a public letter classified information, was in there really up to the pressure on the Afghan the Justice Department to get involved here, madam the pressure on the FBI, the Justice Department. Where are we on this? This seems like an endless investigation. We see stories in the papers each and every day, including the fine story today in the Washington Post, Yet there is a sense within the Justice Department, among some people that thing proceeding too slowly that there's not enough activity for the but to see someone basically in handcuffs as a result of this.

I think there is some sort of separate things might be talking about on the archives matter. We haven't really seem the Justice Department do anything the archives as we understand it, is going through an indexing. These files, the Justice Department, at least as far as we understand it right now hasn't open any kind of investigation. I think sort of related we just because we're talking about former president Trump. There is a lot of pressure on the Justice Department to investigate him for all manner of things I think most notably. That would be his comments on January six, his efforts to overturn the election and you're right that there has been a lot of frustration generally on that that the Justice Department isn't going right at members of his inner circle to learn details about the sort of pressure campaign or details about she's sort of attitude or involvement with regard to his speech on January sick. So there is a kind of two separate things, the archives matter, and then all of these other things, but there of a point, which is that many many people in the public, particularly on the left, are frustrated that the Justice Department just has been unwilling to investigate directly and aggressively the former.

so carry their two pieces to what the national are saying here. Number number one is that the records or incomplete that they didn't get everything they needed from the White House and number two that he did. In fact, the President take classified documents to Morrow Logo yeah we're wasting a patent if the president whipping up documents in the White House itself, which he should have been doing, because why house documents a government records and they certainly shouldn't, have been removed down tomorrow log, I guess the big question that allow people have is what's the cumulative impact of what the national archives of just said about those documents going to Morrow Logo, about the investigations that that are being held into the president and into his businesses, as well as Jeremy? How much pressure to MIKE's point about this in broader than that justice, nude information from the national archives. How much legal jeopardy is Donald Trump in?

The moment, given that there are these two grandeur is in New York and in Georgia he would seriously facing the kind of legal consequences that man people in America. Thank YE, pap should have faced a long time ago. I don't think we have any idea caddy and don't believe anybody who tells you they now because cranberries are by their design secret and with respect to this latest issue with respect to the classic. information matter. Ordinarily, you think yes, what do you would do as they would open a fulfilled investigation? They would begin to Subpoena records the gain access to documents and interview witnesses and this investigation plywood go on for a very long time, Theo Jaded do anything in matter of days or weeks, but whether there's a cumulative effect. I don't see that I think these are running on separate tracks. I personally think the place where the Trump Organization first faces the most legal liability with respect to the financial investigations, that's being under taken in New York

to whether not anything ensues from the January six sake, electoral matter either think Deo J has said a word and I don't think so here today we have any idea what that's can resulting from criminal comparability for Donald Trump His subordinates will save the just department moves on this one: former chief of staff at the CIA in Department of Defense, Jeremy Bash, always good to see my friend thanks for being here wash and impose national security report covering the Justice Department has been all over. This story match up a task you thank you too, for joining us. We appreciate it coming up here. A jury will hear closing arguments today in the hate crimes trial of the three white men convicted of murdering a mud arbour in Georgia, the defence call just a single witness or the latest from that federal court? Room plus chaos breaks out after Michigan and was concerned there basketball game yesterday started by the coaches Jesus closed fist punch for Michigan, head coach, former NBA Star, to one how're you what happened? Oh, come right. Back

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Players and staff from both sides then got involved lots of pushing shoving indisposed came press conference. Howard did not apologise for the incident saying he reacted as someone putting his hands on him and quoth. At that point, I it was time to protect myself the beaten conference set a plan to take swift and appropriate disciplinary action when it completes its review while Michigan Athletic Strict award manual said he quickly apologize to was content officials for what he called the totally unacceptable behaviour and that the school to review the incident thoroughly. You can expect the long suspension. Therefore, Howard Major League Baseball officially has announced spring training games have been delayed. On Friday. The league said the games, which originally were slated to begin this Saturday will now start until March Fifth, at the very earliest team owners and the players Union continue to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreements. The sides have matches six times since the lock out began the wash

post reports according to sources and they'll, be officials have told the union. It would need to come when agreement by next Monday, in order to ensure the regular season starts time, which is March thirty first post guides told to meet later today so might barnacle at the deadline is Monday to get the regular season going on time. That looks a little bleak, your plug men to both sides of this story. What more can you tell us any chance they get. The games going on time There is a chance really, but first of all is inexcusable that there out of the players occurred in December second, and they didn't have any really functional meetings for weeks on end, That is inexcusable so that you can take basically take a month of time. It decide where they did. Nothing down to it, supposedly going to meet every day this week it depends on which owners show up at these meetings. If more, sensible owners show up this

possibility that they could get a deal. The big hang up, it's what they call service time of younger players in major league baseball. They awarded free agency or path the free agency after three years or two years, it's a complicated thing there are several owners and major league baseball who wouldn't mind not playing in April because they indicate that they lose an enormous amount of money in April it games and did you know some cities where the weather is not great but they're going to have to deal with that? The big thing, though Willie is, to my mind, and I think, to the fans mines is they have yet to address, even in the back and forth about these meetings, anything having to do with the pace of play of baseball baseball.

Diminishing sport in terms of popularity, largely because the games are too long, three hours and fifteen minutes to be an average time of a game. The game start too late. They started seven hundred and ten, seven hundred and fifteen there's no reason why they can't other than tv coverage start at six or six hundred and thirty, but they have not yet address those issues that make the game more attractive to people to go to the game. Knowing gonna spend six hours there, so we're gonna say this is a big weak, a big big week, you're right about pace, the top salad. With kid, even who loves baseball, like my son in this year, with a got phones and video games and everything else, that pace is tough, and yet you say it can be four hours to watch a game but men these contracts. A lot of these guys just signed MIKE right before for this lock out took place in forty three million dollars a year, your average fan is looking at this and going you're gonna

games because you're not getting enough money. It's a shame that nobody doubts the major early headquarters and the Players Union could take a step back and see the law, term damage to the game well give him the money that they make an they don't led ordinary lives. That's one big things! So, basically this is it. This is a war between billionaires, the owners and millionaires, the players, and that's in the stratosphere I mean the lid. They don't realize the impact that having people who really love, baseball and look forward to baseball and that that sad, sad still ahead here. Brian floor as lands, a new job and the NFL just weeks after suing the league for racial discrimination, any is headed to Pittsburgh, not as a head ciao. Does that impact is suit against the league will discuss that next morning, Joe

six, forty three in the morning Reagan, National Airport in Washington officials in that city are preparing for the likelihood of a trucker protests like the one we saw in Canada coming to the United States Capital, and we see news reports. Capital police are considering now re installing a fence around the capital, complex ahead of president by the state of the union, address police believe a copycat trucker protests may occur during the speech. You will remember. Security fence was in place four months after the January six, the tack on the capital, a statement from the. U S c, p reads in part: quote: the United States, capital police and the United States secret service have been closely working together to plan for the upcoming state of the union, the temporary inner perimeter fences part of those ongoing discussions and remains an option. However, at this time no decision has been made as officials prepare

for protest in the United States. One of the largest trucker protest in Canada is nearly over the Ottawa police tweeted last night. Anyone left within the protest. Maybe stood two weeks. Demonstration in the canadian capital began as a fight against vaccine mandates and has cost the United States and Canada millions in lost trade. The Majority of american truckers do not need to be vaccinated against covert nineteen unless crossing an international border, so catty k we're seeing this in Canada clearly seat in the United States and other been similar protest, maybe not with trucks, but against the mandates across Europe, where you are our they falling away a little bit of some of these restructuring. These restrictions go away.

you weren't a super interesting moment in the pandemic. We really because you got on the one hand, these extremely angry protests that have really disrupted Ottawa, and yet here in Europe, basically everybody's lifting restrictions, Boris Johnson, is said: the restrictions in the UK even to self isolate. If you test positive, a covert are about to go, and here in Europe other countries going to follow suit. Denmark's already done it Sweden's already done it. Life is really getting back to normal. For many people there was a lot of anger about vaccine mandates, but when the french government really pushed vaccines, you can't do anything really in France without having a vaccine candidates, cafes, museums or anything else with having being vaccinated. It worked, so you got the vaccination numbers up really high. Those tough restrictions of the french President Putin did did have an effect on getting people vaccinated here, but you know, I think, Europe

Feels like its pudding covered in the rearview mirror. Man just feels like at one country after another is lifting restrictions. Travel is normalizing, and yet you ve still got people in Canada The? U S where vaccination rates are lower in the? U S than in many european countries still really angry about getting pushed it vaccinated.

Yeah and we ve seen this in the last couple of weeks here, the United States a wave of the mandates going away, mostly in blue states, following the lead of some republican governors, the Pittsburgh Steelers hired Brian Flores on Saturday, less than a month after the former Miami Dolphins, coach Sue, the NFL in three teams over alleged racist hiring practices Flores, who will serve as a senior defensive assistant for Pittsburgh, said. While he is returned the coaching in the leg, he will not abandon his lawsuit. The steelers are led by head coach MIKE Tomlin, the NFL longest tenured black head coach and want to three black men to lead teens last season, less bringing MSNBC Legal analysed Charles Charles so much to talk to you about this morning, but let's just touch on this We hear brine Floris hired, interestingly enough by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Of course, my tom and a legendary head coach in Vienna fell black head coach. It is the team whose owner instituted the Rooney rule nearly twenty years ago. What are you

Of this and the decision of for to continue to pursue his lawsuit, while he's been hired by the Steelers, good morning Willie. First and foremost, I think they're floors is doing the right thing. I think that people have to stand that what Brian Flores has alleged is a class action suit, and so on one hand where is now he has been employed by the Pittsburgh Steelers that doesn't change the allegations that he has made in his pleadings that affect the remainder of the class other. Similarly situated candidates will qualify. Systemically discriminated against. Secondly, I want to put it in this perspective, A civil rights are calm once said, if stab me in the back six inches, and then you pull the knife out three inches. You have not given me justice and what I mean to say that here is, while the inner fell might like to say in a forum wizard of OZ perspective, don't look behind the curtains, there's nothing to see here what

All need to understand is that him being hired in this case does not change the fact that he was discriminated against regarding another opportunity, and so that needs to be understood, so he should go forward the lawsuit. I dont think that this impact this, because the fact that he has been hired now does not the gate negate the fact that he was likely discriminated against them. One of the more interesting aspects of both the hiring and Brian Forest suit against the NFL is that European who can quibble with forests his demeanor, there are people civil with forests, coaching techniques in that's happened in both instances, but to know people who really know Brian Forest. Nobody ever quibbles with his sense of character and integrity. And going forward. This is going to be really interesting to see it play out there, Rainforest is going to stay with this. I would thank you.

I think you know he is going to stay with this, and I think in many ways is somewhat unfortunate that now there Flores has brought this lawsuit. He is going to be undoubtably under a greater level of scrutiny than any other culture ineffective in this regard, not necessarily with respect to winds of losses, but with respect to his character and his conduct, and I think that that's one of the downsized floors knows going into this. He has to be prepared to deal with Charles, let's move on closing arguments which are set to begin today in the federal Hate crimes trial, the three white men convicted of killing a mud arbitrary in Georgia, a twenty five year old black men who was killed while jogging near Brunswick Georgia. Two years ago, the free men Travis Book, Michael Gregory, Mc Michael and William Roddy Brian chased our real through their neighborhood in trucks, spotting him running by their homes in February. Twenty twenty

men, cornered armoury and Travis. Mc Michael fatally shot him with a shotgun in November. They were convicted in a stake, a felony murder and other charges. So, Charles, even following this closely. This is the federal Hate crimes trial that aspect of what we ve seen them already had the criminal trial. What do you expect to see in closing arguments today and where do you believe this is headed

what will we? I think what we are going to see in this case is an emphasis on some of the other aspects regarding race in hate crime that we did not see emphasised by the prosecutor during this day. Try. One of the reasons for that is because the elements for conviction are very different in this case than they were at the state level. So there are going to be not that are given to the text, messages that were uncovered in the other different pieces that the prosecutor had to put out regarding race in how it played a role in the decision to murder or more arbitrary. And so I expect a lot of that which is going to have a very different toll when compared to what we heard from the prosecutor in this one, the state prosecution level. And, ultimately, I do think that the deal J has put forth a solid case, and I would be expecting a conviction here, but I'm not taking them for granted.

we will see. Meanwhile, the Minnesota Judge and Friday sentence, former police officer Kim Potter to two years in prison for less than what was sought by prosecutors in the fatal shooting of black motorists, Dante right and it pin Any judge, Regina, Chew, ordered potter to spend two thirds of her sense behind bars and one third of it provide release. Chew, said: potter deserve less than the eighty six month sentence sought by prosecutors because the officer was trying to use her taser and not her gun Judge said she knows her ruling will be unpopular. Potter has been in custody since just before Christmas last year, when Joe convicted her first degree, MILAN manslaughter for the twenty twenty one fatal shooting at the twenty year old right in the Middle apple suburb of Brooklyn Centre, just to remind our viewers. This is the case where the officer reach, for taser. She says she thought it was her taser pull out discharged it and it was her gun shooting Anti right that what do you make of the sentence here?

really to say that I am disappointed is an understatement. In terms of perspective, I want viewers to consider this had and they been a lawful arm civilian, who made a mistake and shit killed, Kim Potter, who was off duty and then received this sentence, the public would be outraged. We have it of conversation around black lives matter, but when you see a sentence like this handed down by judge to it so unfortunate, because then the question becomes a black lives matter than how much do they matter because, in this situation, the use download departure in sentencing is just not call for. If

thinking potter being a twenty six year. Veteran of the the Brooklyn Police Force warranted a higher sentence because the public trust is violated when police officers and law enforcement make mistakes like this. I have said on many occasions that we are dealing with a toxic police culture in America and you cannot change culture without accountability. This sent that was handed down as a slap on the risk and a slap in the face of accountability and anyone brings into the conversation or what about a direct, shelving, Derek Chauvelin, being sentenced in the way that he was is not the case action to the wool he's the exception that pools the wall. There are still issue with regard to police accountability in Amerika for wrong doing blow. For, in this case, mistakes that result in the loss of human life, if so, I find this sentence to be wrong. I find it to be unfortunate and I hope that it is. It is appealed

baffling since the beginning, by the way, too many and law enforcement that a veteran officer could mistake, her taser for her firearm trials, Charles common thanks, so much covering a lot of ground forest trials thanks so much. We appreciate it covered up next new reporting on Russia's plans for Ukraine, including reporting, kill lists for those who oppose a military occupation inside Ukraine, will talk to the Washington Post reporter, who first uncovered those details. That's next morning, Joe whether it's the complexity of climate change, the challenge, of racial injustice or the threat to american democracy get your daily. Seven lightning articles at MSNBC, daily written perspectives, people. You know and trust many Hoskin Joyce bats and darker computer Patel, along with a groan

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