I condemn the aggression that you launch on my people. There is no purgatory for war criminals. They go straight to Hell Ambassador. they go straight to hell. Ukraine's ambassador to the United Nations, with that message to Russia's leadership as Russia launches an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation. The lambs you're going out all over Europe we shall not see them, let again in our lifetime. So Sir Edward Gray lamented do a friend right before Britain's entry in world war- want this pronouncements are less shakespearian. Instead, the wash Imposts rights of ukrainian teenager calling his girlfriend you need to get up the war has begun

as citizens of this besieged european nation scramble for ATM machines, gas and grocery supplies. Russian troops are coming ever closer to their cities and their arms and therein eating with rockets and raining across the country is one of Europe's puts his own country in jeopardy economically and They clean vainglorious effort to reconstruct and evil empire that killed thirty million of its own people before own demise now. The only question is, how will America and the West find this brutish use of power. They attacked

can early in the morning about five fiveam local time from neighbouring Belarus, Maskos ally with explosions in several cities across Ukraine, including the capital, Kiev, air raids, sirens rang out across Kiev, and ukrainian officials reported that crews or ballistic missiles, targeted military control centres. Dozens of ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far. Officials say mostly from air strikes and rocket launchers. Ukrainian president's landscape declared martial law closing schools and placing spills on high alert. There was a mass exodus, as thousands tried to flee the invasion began. Just minutes after russian President Vladimir Putin said in a public address that he, authorized military action because the West had pushed too far in trying to draw the country into NATO

He also warned other countries against any retaliation saying quoth. The response from Russia will be so severe that no foreign nations have ever experienced it before decisions have been made, Willie President Biden spoke to present Olenska Ukraine last night, and this morning President Biden will meet with G seven leaders. He says he will announce news sanctions against Russia this afternoon. The statement from the President reason part the prayers of the entire world with the people of Ukraine tonight, as they, for an unprovoked and unjustified attack by russian military forces from Putin has chosen a premeditated war that will bring a cattle traffic loss of life and human suffering, alone is responsible for the death and destruction. This attack will bring- and you know states and its allies and partners will respond in a united and decisive way. The world

will hold Russia accountable. A statement from President Joe Biden joining us now from Ukraine and B C news chief foreign correspondent, Richard Angle, richer wasn't look like on the ground there. This morning so there have been air strikes and what appeared to be missile strikes in numerous parts of the country, mostly targeting military facilities, and I think we are still in the early hours of what could be a long campaign Mario, which is in the South EAST there has not been much damage in the center of the city, but I just came from the edge of the city and a military communications facility had had been struck. The military satellite dish was smouldering and tipped over the ukrainian military has just put out more video that it says our russian attack helicopters attack a military installation outside of Kiev, so

to the day, the ukrainian Presidential Linsky. The decision by Russia, which began about eight hours ago, came in from three locations from the north from Belarus from the where Russia has had border or had troops start to build up on the border, from the south, and here in in Marco Polo, there is a an uneasy com. People are clearly nervous of. The government has imposed a state of emergency, calling it martial law. Many People are lining up for gas lining up at eight a crowded. into supermarkets, but we seen also more cranium troops and tanks pulled closer into the city. So for now it seems that the major urban centres in this country are still under government control and that

this point in time the the the air strikes carried out by Russian at least apparently, one helicopter strike have all been on military facilities, Richard stay with us when it turn NBC new senior international correspondent Cure Simmons in Moscow care for weeks now, the world has wonder: will Vladimir Putin do it and if he does it, how will he do it? What we learned last night that, yes, he is happy to cross that line and that he is gone big in the early hours here, that's all Just picking up on what Richard was saying there to meet you Pascal thee, lemon spokesmen. Just now a briefing. russian journalists, and he has just said that this goal is to vote, July's Ukraine's military potential. So question marks through the morning about exactly what the should aim. Is here and clearly we need to take these things with a pinch of salt because bluntly

There have been so many lies, but right now Dmitri Pesky saying that is the goal and that, I suppose you could say does appear to fit with, what's being reported by close borders on the ground like rigid, that's it is managed guess that are being hit and in fact, only television, military leaders, setting the russian public and have intended by rush public that morning. Russians woke up here really to these. The state tv replaying President Putin's announcement but I have to tell you I have been out on the streets of Moscow this morning to speak to ordinary rush. They are stunned day. Many of them did not expect this. Even despite that, the messaging from the Kremlin. Really there were people coming up to us, John tell us how upset they were taken? This is a disaster

I don't do it. I don't like it, then I don't want it to be like that at all. I'm scared. I'm scared of this is I'm afraid that something will happen here and I'm afraid of people who live in Ukraine refrain Yes, I have some relatives there and I'm afraid of them. Horrible believe it's horrible should be done by above diplomatic. We we should became really Russians. You speak English. More likely, I think you could say to be. opposed cities actions one man's beauteous in Russian said he was in favour of it, but I think don't underestimate how shop the Russians have a one. On one more point before I leave you there, banks, the dollars you run out in many parts of Moscow, with hearing from one produces here Joe, the dollars What that tells you is that Russians are really frightened, so their economy there, frightened for watching them,

legal plunging value going to try and get dollars and then not able to find them in some of the banks that maybe it indication that president Is it still struggling to bring his country with him on this. Thank you care Richard Engel. Let me ask you: What is the mood of the troops you been reporting on on the lines in Ukraine they were bracing for this and they they knew. This was coming. Some. People were living in a kind of suspended disbelief that it wouldn't happen that flat Vladimir Putin wouldn't go all the way that he would be deterred, but I think starting yesterday and the day before, when we saw a dramatic increase in the fire from the russian back separatists. Many of the troops. I spoke to thought that Russia was preparing the ground that it softening its targets, and I think early stage. We are still seeing that

was not a massive shock in our campaign. Like some, U S, officials anticipated there was a day. Devastating cyber attack there there been at the beach assaults that some people had been speculating, so it it seems at this stage that the Russian military is still probing. It is knocking out communications. It is knocking at the the military ease ability to defend the country and launch a a counter attack potentially, but that this old to believe that this is still an early phase and you ve been seeing that I was watching just this morning. The soldiers are mobilizing their setting up more checkpoints. They are trying to maintain civil civil order and they are also on the lookout for sleeper cells, they are. They are very nervous that Russia could have organised or infiltrated groups of of local we're sympathetic who could see

they come out and try and carry out acts of sabotage or talk, try to take control of the street so I razor, I guess my questionnaires regarding their attitudes that there has been some question as to whether they are actually fight the Russians when they come in. tell me what their attitude was toward that resistance is the result of determination that they, are going to push back on. The Russians are, do expect a speed. retreat? What depends what the Russians throw out them so far for we ve been seeing airstrikes missile strikes. some some helicopter assault, but we have seen at least as far as I am aware, the full on tank to tat. battles that that could become a quite soon and I, and I think we will- we will have to see what happens then, when the

Craniums are not just facing airstrikes military facilities on the outskirts of cities, but when they are facing the full brunt of aid of a russian ground offensive, but many soldiers, I've spoken to our committed. They they they think want to fight. They realise that their nation is at stake that ever made it very clear that his goal is to topple the government which scribes as fascist and NEO. Nazi and and Ukrainians are. Our daughter then too, The ukrainian military, I should say, is determined to the best of its ability to keep this going, but Ukraine needs the grinning. Ukraine's foreign minister has called for more sanctions and more weapons for the troops and just a short while ago President's Linsky said that there are injured soldiers in hospital and he called for a national issue to national peel for people to donate blood. Care Simmons. Yesterday, Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of State wrote that

an invasion will leave Russia diplomatically, isolated, economically, crippled and strategically vulnerable vat has been the assessment. Clear, eyed assessment of western diplomats and western leaders and western observers. This is an attack does not make sense, economically Veronica diplomatic, we ve Russia and, quite frankly, the wrong long run. Militarily for Russia, so its caused a great deal of concern in the west. Would move forward against his own long term interests? I'm curious. Have you pay any of that up in Moscow from any military officials any any government officials from many leaders that that concern. We'll joy, I've just been handed more of that wants to meet. You pass, got the decree,

spokesmen has been saying. Is Greece two journalists. I just in front past few minutes and in the past hour, and I'm just looking to read it for myself, but passing. saying no one talks about occupation. This work does not lie here so clearly again Russian saying they don't plan to try to occupy Ukraine again, just repeat in Russia's Amy's neutralize, actually be Craigs military potential and then very critically. Second country, like Russia, cannot fall behind the curtain, well ok- but I know the kinds of sanctions and economic implications that have been in the very likely now for Russia. Just reiterate one thing: we ve been But during the past she mornings has been about the impact of those sanctions on Russia. But one thing we haven't had talks about he's just the simple economic fallout did the stock exchange here in Russia

had to be suspended in the early hours of the morning, as I mentioned, the Reuben is falling. What will it do to the russian economy? Just that? The UN's urgency likely uncertain about how this war will play out, what will that do russian economy will that do the views of ordinary Russians, but then again, of course, will lapse the present intrusions feeling even more vulnerable, perhaps more vulnerable and perhaps threatened I will mention one thing that I found chilling in President Putin statement, which again has been we on russian television through the morning we're talking about the threat of sanctions from the west present uprooted. In that speech, I talked about Russia's nuclear capability, and then don't say: Russia has advantages in the late. some involves using the latest types of weapons, and he says in this regard. No one should should We doubt that a direct attack on Russia will lead to defeat and dire consequences for

and should aggressor. So that appeared to be President Putin, mentioning Russia the capable to threatening leaders and just before, these are the beginning of this. This military operation. We did here from the french who oversee have had a good deal of content, some with President Putin. French official describing as erratic. I certainly she's here with close contacts. Criminals have told me that President Putin will be himself This operation is very much in charge so That said, I think we cannot depend on that. He is acting rationally that that that is something that we depend on, even though of what is happening right now to many Russians looks pretty russian. Well then, and what you just underlined is the grave concern here,

along with the invasion of crying. That makes absolutely no sense is the euro. like nature of this attack and his continued use of nuclear. The threat which he and russian state tv and russian diplomats have been doing for the past, two men so far has threats seem to be coming to fruition, NBC Care Simmons in Moscow and then be safe. Richard angle, reporting from Southeast Hugh Crain? Thank you both. Will checking letter and with you throughout the morning, let's bring in the president of the council on Foreign relations, Richard Hoss, former. U S ambassador to Russia now direct of the Institute for International studies at Stanford and and Basing news international affairs and Michael Mc Fall

former NATO Supreme Allied Commander retired forced our Navy, Admiral James Starr breeders. He is cheap. International security and diplomacy analysed for NBC News and MSNBC investor revolts begin with you analyse pick up where we left off on the erratic nature of let em your poor. The erratic nature of this attack the illogical nature, so tat. I quoted Madeleine Albright who wrote that the invasion, only russian diplomatically isolated, economically crippled and strategy equally vulnerable. It will all three of those things are. Our are obvious not fairly, these. They are obvious this Isn't there a rational attack? One Europe country invading another european country in twenty twenty two and his spots The attack in any threats is do not defend Ukraine I will.

Toy nuclear weapons, and he's been saying that for the past few months they ve set it on state tv about reducing the west to ashes. Are you ve had diplomats, making the same threats this is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a rational man even by the old soviet communist standards when, when we actually had backed channels and There was some rime and some reason too. the old Soviet Empire NED, I agree. Its tragic its irrational. It's also evil, lest his collar. For that good legal in the world- and this is the evil acts. and I've been saying is forever Joe, I'm shit, I hate to say this, but no more call them the Washington Post was prudent, does not think like we do. We keep thinking, he's gonna do cost benefit analysis. Think about how

sanctions by the factor in other prices bear Bank in the most stock market next week that's enzymes? Putin is true that today, on this incredibly tragic day It is a rather, it is a rational. I actually think you'll come back to haunt him, rise. Deaf overreacted and over in Afghanistan, after series winds and the nineteen seventies, I think this will be pollutants Afghanistan moment, but also a terrible prized in a terrible past, you, crazy people, and, do not there's no rationality here. He is he's mode aided by some crazy ideas. I want to really emphasise that I listened to his speech on Monday. I listen to his speech last night. You suck you D. Simplification they're? Not season, Ukraine, leader of brain is not a nazi he's, a democratically

elected leader, these jewish, is not a nazi and for four just I'm sorry, I'm so emotional, but we gotta get over the fact that we're going to deal with this guy and some real power he cost benefit analysis. We ve got a tree as an irrational evil leader who is on firstly and grossly attacked a free democratic Ukraine? that was a bizarre reference in a chilling speech from President Putin and Admiral Steve readers. We also heard from President's Zelensky addressing his nation yesterday, but really speaking to the people of Russia as well and making a last ditch plea with them to tell people to tell their government. We don't want war with Ukraine. We don't want war with our neighbour, but you have led NATO troops as Supreme Ally Commander. You know you very well? What is poor this objective here Richard angle, said so far. It doesn't quite look like shocking, and but this is early hours here. What would you expect to see next?

to what end for Vladimir Putin. What does he want here? Long waits like me: fall. I think we are a loosened. Vladimir Putin go back and read his speech from last night. What he's after is essentially occupying Ukraine. I find it laugh all that his spokesmen this morning, is saying: there's no intent to occupy. That's the nine hundred and seventy fifth lie. That's come out of the Kremlin point. Two we're not gonna win day so clearly. He intends to subjugate Ukraine This is the Getting of a significant campaign in it is starting exactly as military plainer would put it together, which is to say, take out the air defence systems take out the command and control terrified. population to put a huge refugee bird on the outgoing government five, the international community, if that's not shock, and I dont know what it is, and I think that next

and you're gonna see are gonna, be pretty serious movements of troops tanks led by and there are no the error rate sirens in real time here- watching the history channel unfold it real time here, we are Russia ride back to the nineteen thirty's Richard Hoss. You have a piece out. The west must show Putin just how wrong he is to choose war, but so far so far. He is listening to no one and all predict of just how bad things can be our coming true. What is worst option at this point and what can the Eu S do well Stop chicken meat is to allow Mr Putin to succeed with this unwarranted, unjustified illegal, immoral war of choice. There was no necessity that Russia do what he has now done, but it's not axiomatic that what Maryland

right and others have been saying. I will come to pass. That's our challenge. Now. We need now are responsive necessity to his war of choice. Gotta be to raise the economic costs at home too the military costs on the ground. I hate to be so blood, but Here they are the most vulnerable thing that that's the Putin's vulnerable, too, is dead russian soldiers. So we have to make sure Ukraine has the means to two to resist. We ve got to raise the political class at home. We ve got to reach out to russian journalist russian civil society to begin to try to influence what goes on back their diplomatically. We need to isolate Russia. We can't do a lot in the security council. We saw that last night. To the General Assembly, push for uniting for peace resolution, two countries to line up one way or the other we to China see if we can get bring some daylight between Russia and China? We need to think about this with every tool we have we. You'll be saying, but history does offer some comfort war choice like this one. They often begin well, but they often it

and badly, we see for the United States. We saw for Russia in Afghanistan and the two keys or what to raise the costs on the ground for the invading country and to to old opposition at home to basically in feed the weariness and wariness of the whole population. That is what we need to do here I rose review this. We tried diplomacy we all along. were concerned that it was gonna fell, the French, the Germans, everybody NATO is try. Diplomacy is gonna work here? We we ve now that, but you still have to do that with a nuclear power. So we met it into a new phase. if the United States and NATO wants to throw everything. They have a high level group short of sending american troops and the Ukraine and sorting world nor three. What do we do? You start

I fully activating once called the NATO response force. This is about thirty thousand troops, Men seamen soldiers. Obviously you flood, then, for to the borders of the alliance? Look if you're waking up in Europe this morning You're, a member of NATO, you baby inside this alliance this morning and by the way, if your waking up in stock hopes we'd, nor Helsinki, Finland, too. Very capable nations that are outside of the alliance. I would be thinking about how quickly can I get inside this alliance, what you like doing this morning, Joe in Brussels, the North Atlantic Council behold actions all of the military leaders will convene mice excess, her general Todd wool tourists will be talking to all of the counterpart leaders in the military, and I think you're gonna see NATO, bring that NATO response force right up. the borders of the alliance, that is, an act of war. I like,

Richard Haass Phrase, it's a response of necessity. We need to show who was? The alliance is capable of doing that in the year on the sea, moving our ships forward and our troops to them? to mean makes a lot of sense. I'll close by saying you know, Putin is gonna, look pretty power, Poland pretty strong, as you rolls over for the third time of year, week neighbour militarily, but in all the alliance out spends Russia ten to one on military spending. We number him in troops on the ground three or four to one we have found Since more military capable aircraft, many more warships he's not going to I'd across a NATO border and anger. This is the moment emphasise that point with him. I think that will help clarify his mind. Is he deals with the consequences of what's gonna happen inside Ukraine?

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to history, ambassador fall, you you know Vladimir Putin, you sat across from glad mere Putin. You understand this man more sanctions. Today, we here are coming from President Biden from the United States. I suspect. That's not. Gonna, have Putin call the troops home from Ukraine will get his attention. What can NATO do? What can the west do? What can the United States due to prevent them from becoming as bad as so many people are predicting? It will be offered but I must reveal to said, I support a hundred percent. We want to make sure that this wouldn't understands that any on any NATO allies attack on all of us, and we want to make sure that that goes to his Joe probability event number two, I hope and expect the President Biden and that the free world will today today not not weeks from

but today, who impose the most comprehensive sanctions against Russia ever theirs. oh ratcheting, there's no waiting, there's no incremental ism. It has to be everything today. Shocking in terms of economic sanctions, it's free! We need massively massively increase our military, humanitarian medical assistance to Ukraine today, just a few years ago eyes on asean call with many ukrainian friends and we ve been training ukrainians you're at Stanford for two decades and one of them said something very, very soberly. He said I'm ready to fight. I bought my kid. New paths are very good. There's a shortage of me paths in Ukraine. Is you gonna be on your knees when you're shooting eight the sounds of blood, but he said, son more need pads might, and so we have to do everything we can

supply the military. First and foremost, I worry that they're gonna run out of ammunition Run out of stingers second arrive and that will give the russian Army an advantage, you have to do everything we can to support those that are fighting on their own. At the end of the day then that we have NATO. Thank God we expanded NATO. incredibly stupid debate. We ve been having for the last several weeks. Imagine a Europe without NATO expanded, that's great! our ukrainian friends just email me a couple hours ago MIKE. I can't believe we are facing this bastard alone and at the end of the day, Ukrainians are fighting Putin alone. We have to do it. We can help them in that fight. How important it is for a central providers. just as a bathroom false, and I'm sure you will all agree here

the sanctions get put in place, can't be incremental. We we ve tried that I understand why we tried it and I think any reasonable, rational leader would have tried that but as we have to implement every time all that we have in our tool kit, in terms of of sanctions today, how What is it today that waste the movement of our troops into our NATO. allies countries into Poland into Estonia into into every country. that we can, then that is, is close to Russia and that borders, Ukraine. It is vital I think you will see that in The NATO alliance often gets knocked for awhile Bureaucracy, a lot of committees. A lot of talk, talk talk.

Can also move very, very fast, and I think you're gonna see that you're gonna see truths, tanks, armor warships, all of it blow toward does Russian. He doesn't want here She is an expanded unified. serious NATO all around supporters, defensive of course, but show that and show it to us today, oughta, be part of our energy and just to add on what ambassador while said in a day to the massive aid humanitarian and military will In the zoo government plan its next steps, do they have satellite found what kind of convoy section two they have if they have to move out of Chea, do they have a set up in LE be did they know where they can form a government in exile, as Charles De Gaulle did, for ants in the Second World WAR,

how are we going to finance that government in exile in both short hearts and might make far correctly talk about imposing costs in terms of strengthening you any resistance that is step one, is to have Ukrainians believe and no, they have functioning ukrainian government that tee that someone, ski team has got to be protected and they have to be capable, of setting in place that resistance and directing it yo richer. I saw the Chinese have a decision to make and and obviously China's having trouble economically their struggling with covert bad outbreak in Hong Kong. They have very little resistance is going to sweep across the country. They're not opposition to flexor muscles right now and then a choice to make an egg in either legged either get in bed

the country that has a gdp that smaller than this of taxes are They can side. with the United States and our allies in the EU who have a forty trillion that between us, forty, two in dollars in GDP as a forty trillion to Russia's one and a half trillion, and yet this morning shy foreign minister, refused to call Russia's actions and invasion and rejected, any comparison to Taiwan choice. accuse United States of fanning the flames and called on all parties to maintain restrained. I understand triangulation that sure in China are playing right now, but you look economically, you will get worse. China is economically you look where China is with Cove it does. seem to be like a. Very wise play, especially since their trading partners with Ukraine and by the way side now, please respond to this to Israel. Also.

A country whose neck this country- as stock its own country. We ve stuck her neck out for since nineteen forty eight reviews Dick condemn Russia? Refusing to call this an invasion talk, China, too, about Israel? China wants to have it both ways and what they often do in these situations show is they abstain and you're right? We oughta basically forced them to takes like what Russia has done. Let us be clear: it has violated? China's not just the world's China's most basic tenets of international relations, which is non interference in the internal affairs of other countries. This has been a basic of chinese foreign policy since one thousand nine hundred and forty nine they and their civil war, Normally they would oppose a plus think about it. Think of the press. for Taiwan, which is what the Chinese, or are our nervous about

imagine someone decided to recognise a movement by Taiwan to be independent. Apart from the rest of China, that's what Russia did in recognising these republics in eastern Ukraine should China's gotta be very uneasy what we want to basically tell China is: this is going to really make a bad situation worse in terms of our bilateral relationship. If you come out wrong here, plus you were going to get caught up in bad time since there's going to be sanctions and if you keep doing business with Russia as normal, Sanctions are going to hit China. The last thing you should say China needs coming of Covert at a time when chinese growth rates, or maybe one third, what they used to be a decade ago. So we want to have a shall we say heart to heart with China, but also talked about the possibilities of Eu Us chinese relationship, because we'd like to begin the process of shoehorning shy away from Russia, Israel and a similar short away? Israel has calculations. Russia they see, has having become the most important country in the Middle EAST.

then the only ones with real ties to Syria to Saudi Arabia, to some of the palestinian knighted states no longer play that role. Israel is also concerned about russian juicer. They're gonna be careful. Here again we ought to tell Israel. This is our expectation. This is one of those moments where you have to step up This is fundamental to the United States, is fundamental to the western world. You are part of the western world. We have to be able to count on you here, conversations like they have intensified this morning, given what we ve seen in the last eight hours, Ambassador MC fall before we let you go. I just want to take a step back for our audience. There have been some cynical politicians who said: oh, who cares what happens in Ukraine? We ve got our own problems at home, probably chickens going about their lives, saying. Why is this so important? So for you? Could you articulate why you believe in the moment. It is so important to turn back Vladimir Putin. Why is this a moment in history that is so worthy of the world's attention?

This reminds me of September. First, eighteen, thirty, nine Hitler invaded Poland, and remember in the thirties lots of the baron. So. Why do we care about Czechoslovakia, whereas Poland? This not our words, not our problem, that's what they say: american Fishers, an echo of a sentiment that we have in this country today. But what has happened now is this: is the salt not just on Ukraine and sovereignty, This is a saw, an assault on the list, some of the international order that we created nineteen, forty, five and- If the free world doesn't stand out for independent? Craddock Free Ukraine. Here it is consequences all over the world, but Richard Richard was saying about China major consequences all over the world and that's why we, there is good and evil in the world. There is right and wrong in the world and

We have to stand for the right side and for the night, evil side, and that's why we have to stand with independent Ukraine were now gotta go to war over Ukraine. The made that clear but we need to everything else, can stop Putin's evil illegitimate invasion of this. Sovereign democratic country. So Richard Ass. Before I came on the air, I was surprised, as you know, a long time been a long term. Support of Israel before we came in the air. I read: port in the New York Times at Israel had not was not We condemn Russian before the same reasons that you said it six or seven. A m about thirty before I guess. Israel decided they weren't going to have it both ways. The rush of attack of Ukraine is a severe violation of international order. Israel condemns the attack and is prepared to provide humanitarian assistance to the citizens of Ukraine. Israel is long experience in wars. The war is

the way to resolve conflict. So We miss twenty eight minutes, that's twenty! Eight minutes ago, obviously, Israel MAC calculating- and I suspect I will say it again- about china- suspect, because China is in such a weak position right now, because you look at their gdp is falling look at the fact again that their facing the challenges they are facing. Are they really going to side with a country that has a gdp smaller than the state of Texas get a side with the United States and the EU. and the rest of the world if, in fact, the Their economy kick started

I possibly in again? That's where sanctions could really come in at the Chinese continue to conduct certain types of transactions, my hunches very quickly. They will get caught up in sanctions case build on one thing, Ambassador MC false that might said here Joe, which is every guy totally concur that what is at stake here is The principle that countries ought not to be violating the sovereignty of others ought not to be changing borders by force, if there's a tentative international relations that gives us some order. It's that one other thing, though, Ukraine was pressure to persuade it to give up its nuclear weapons, and what's happened now they are being invaded. We do not want to send the lesson. It is it's a lesson out there, after Libya and after Sudan that giving up Nuclear weapons can be powerless to your health. I do one countries around the world, including IRAN too, to the conclusion, as I fear they may of that nuclear weapons are essential and I dont want other countries around the world. Our partners in Asia, partners in Europe,

people in the Middle EAST, the thing nuclear weapons are the only ultimate Daren T. Look what happens to leaders, look what happens to countries when you give em up so we ve got that added stake here. We have got to show that giving, nuclear weapons does not mean you put your lives. Your country at stake, the council on Foreign relations, Richard Hoss? Former? U S ambassador to Russia. Michael MC fall former NATO Supreme, Allied, Commander retired forced our Navy, Admiral James of readers You all very much for your insight this morning and up next step, pictures have plunged following Russia's attack of crane Stephanie Rule reports on the economic impact across the world here, watching warning job. We will be right back,

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Well, we ve asked that question me: can we have not got no response about how far the president wants to go? What we expect is that he is getting briefings. He certainly was overnight and will this morning having those Dereck communications with fellow leaders and trying to get an assessment of what is happening on the ground and it is a combination of trying to get a sense of what european leaders are prepared to do and then preparing to talk to the american people. Probably around noon today early afternoon were known so trying to get an assessment of. Is this the moment to go as far as possible or do they want to hold some things in reserve, with the presumption that Putin is not yet finished, but clearly there will be another layer of sanctions and trying to bring more economic pain and consequence and cost to Putin. Part of the challenge for the president here is to find a way to describe to the american people what is at stake to put more american resources into this in terms of military equipment, personnel and so forth,

bolstering the eastern flank. Again. Not? U S personnel inside Ukraine, but trying to support our partner and allies who are in NATO, who could become vulnerable depending on what spill over there could be always in war. There are the unintended consequences and it is not clear exactly how far Vladimir Putin wants to go. He has not been truthful about his intentions thus far and clearly were now in an active, kinetic phase. So that's part of it. There will be an economic peace to this, where Americans will experience that in gas prices, and then there is a larger sort of existential question about the cost of

opera see and what the american people are willing to do. As far as supporting a partner like this, it has been a couple of generations since Americans have been tested in this way and being ass due to put it in those terms. So there are real leadership challenges for the president to try to get Europe on the same page and keep them, of course, into their neighborhood. We're talking about and also trying to communicate this to the american people will be watching all of that closely this morning and as we learn about meetings and phone calls, will bring that too Please do and MRS Keller Yodel thank you and Joe, obviously not a lot of time at this point. This is happening all in real time. and are a lot of options for President Biden. What do you think he should do what everything he needs to go all learn everything that we can do. By dissent from the very beginning and any any member of Congress that suggest otherwise is just being reckless, were they say we should send troops into Ukraine. Anybody that followed. It

understands that. U S troops being introduced into you cranes, the world, is it triggers a world war triggers World war, three but we need to do everything short of that. We need to send is much aid and coordinated aid with our NATO allies and even people outside of NATO. If you're, a friend of democracy, your friend of freedom in Europe, the United States of America than you going to help us our friends in Ukraine. Secondly, of course, the sanctions I understand and most rational human beings understand why the You why NATO why the United States has has offered a limited sanctions now everything on the table. You have to throw Absolutely everything at the wall. The harshest sanctions possible there can be nothing left in reserve,

No, I know daylight that they have invaded Ukraine. They are attacking Ukraine, so every single sanction that it is possible You need to do it. The third thing is We need to move troops, forward. We then need to go. They need to go east. They need to go into Poland thing go into a we add, and, and NATO or NATO allies need to show the power of NATO and we It is those troops into every country that we can is east we can and finally make up, let's face it and and people have been saying this for weeks if Who wants to run through Russia? Chances are good opening stages of this war he'll be able to run through Ukraine. problem comes after that, as it did with Russia when they went to Afghanistan.

With the United States? When we went into Iraq when we wanted to Afghanistan, the initial stages went up not a hit. There was the occupation right where we are opened up and just as the Russians try to undermine us in Afghanistan. Just as your father, I led the efforts to undermine Russia when they were in Afghanistan and eighteen. Seventy nine, you are allies need to do the same with Russia and Ukraine and help Ukrainians help themselves and the first thing is messaging this to the american people and why this is a vital interest, and this might help markets are reacting with oil hitting one hundred dollars a barrel the highest since twenty fourteen stop futures fell short. Leave early this morning with death which dropping more than seven hundred points joining us now and new senior business corresponded and MSNBC Anchor

any rule Stephanie. What's going to be the economic impact to Americans? Well in the immediate and not so good, the markets no surprise are reacting sharply in the negative. The one place, you're seeing positive is called obviously a flight to quality oil is what people are concerned about. The president said today's go. He is very sensitive to the price we're paying at the pump Jen Saki reiterated that last night, but, as you just said, rob we saw hit over a hundred dollars a barrel w tee. I hovering around ninety five. This is not good. We ve already got people in California paying in some places around five dollars a gallon. This is a very big concern beyond that. You have to think about

supply chain right. We are living in an inflationary environment. Inflation is a top concern for the american consumer. This is only going to worse and that because of supply chain issues, now Russia and Ukraine are not trading partners with us like China. Is this isn't like when China had to shut down their plants there their transportation routes during covert? That was a bigger problem, but this is going to impact the global supply chain and so very big problem and one of their place you have to pay attention, is the grocery store we and Corn Ukraine and Russia are among the biggest exporters of wheat and corn. That certainly can impact what we're paying at the grocery store, and it's got Americans very concerned this morning, so now we have another problem on our hands, and that is China. When you talk about the supply chain, you look what's happening in Hong Kong, the massive outbreak of mccrone, that's because they a stupid, zero covered. I policy. They do not have the resistance that we have in this country. They also do not have

accidents, at work worth a damn, so you talk about problems with supply chain. Vis war, that's breaking out in the you look at what is happening in China. This is a country that is not going to recover for a year or two, and it's going to cause chaos to the supply chain. Talk about that and what that's going to do for Americans as well. Absolutely is remember, we gotta labour issue here and this supply chain issue. When you can't get things on the shelves, it pushes prices. The other issue, Joe, is when American see all of these headlines when they understand what's going on in China and Russia, it could spook us and we could suddenly say I'm not book that trip, I'm not gonna by all the things I was planning on when consumers stop spending, that slows economic growth and we need to keep that growth happening. Remember arches around the corner and FED, is planning to raise interest rates if consumers stop spending. What's that got to do

Stephanie rule. Thank you very much for joining us this morning, Willie several elements to this attack before the explosions in Ukraine. Several of the country's government and banking websites were hit with a cyber attack on Wednesday. Many of those sites reportedly still are down. This morning. Ukrainian cyber security officials say it was a type of attack that shuts down a network server similar to what happened last week, when hackers Ukraine's Ministry of Defence and local banks, Russia denied any involvement, but the Biden Ministration Belize, russian government hackers are in fact responsible for those attacks. Jonas now NBC News Investigations reporter Tom Winter, time. This morning we ve been talking this morning with my comic fall about nineteen, thirty nine in the start of another war in Europe. Obviously something very different now is the element of a cyber attack which is creating that and among the people that the websites they use, don't work, the banking websites, don't work,

Wi Fi may not be functioning right now. What are we seeing in terms of cyber attacks in Ukraine this morning? Writer? When you look at the totality that picture a right now, the focus is obviously on images of helicopters and explosions and what you're seeing different airports there all the images that we're getting in on social media, but what we seen over the past couple of days leading up to this denial of service attacks, other types of malware attacks were you're, seeing those government websites go down, but perhaps more. Fortunately, perhaps the psyche of the ukrainian people in the things that impact them day to day access to their banking apps, going down, not necessarily losing money that they check their banking account once the internet comes, up to them in seeing that their account is at zero. We haven't seen that sort of thing, but when you can't get access to your funds when you're, considering whether or not you need to flee your home, whether or not you need to buy more supplies in, you can't get access and transfer those funds that the has an

packed and somebody psyche. You know here in the United States a sea so which is a division of the of the Department of Homeland Security. They ve been putting out warnings consistently about this we're seeing just over the past several days here in New York. State. A new operations centre, that's being planned an input into play in Brooklyn, a real marriage of of the private and public sector information, that's being shared back and forth. I think you're, seeing that people really realise there's an entirely new front to war. Unfortunately, here in twenty twenty two. Tom and, as you said, the United States is bracing for cyber attacks as well. It's not just Ukraine. What do you see in terms of what could happen here and whether Russia may be involved with that as well? I think you know the set up of. speaking with tell him Stephanie before this is was perfect because between the sanctions that are expected to be announced around noon or one o clock today, how does Russia respond to that? Do they

small to that through some sort of a cyber attack or incident. Here they have these advanced persistent threat actors that are set, to do these types of things if they want to pull that lever, that's an option for them and then also the capital markets. Obviously, here in New York City, either the ability to move move to trade had what's going on in the with respect to oil. What's going on with respect to go out of the power of those markets operating when you look at it, you know the we did an interview back in September eleventh or leading up to it, for the universe in our focus at the time was Afghanistan and terrorism within my PD one and things we talked about with cyber security and that's an area that they're getting involved with that's an area that dead the New York state is, is closely paying attention to an over New Jersey. They ve got a public private partnership. I get weekly emails as far as critical updates to put into play. They can help out some of the smaller businesses in schools again hoping to keep

those things online, so that people don't get to concern here cyber attacks. Obviously, something Putin is deployed in the past and a part of this invasion of Ukraine as well. This morning, NBC Tom Winter, thanks for bringing this up to speed coming up as we continue to follow this breaking news, the Kremlin says its goal is to neutralize the ukrainian military. So what does that mean? That's, while Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said just a moment ago, the enemy is suffering losses. Speaking of Russia. We continue to follow this story of war in Eastern Europe morning. Just back and three minutes It's the complexities of climate change, the challenge of racial injustice or the threat to american democracy. Get your daily seven lightning articles at MSNBC Daily written perspectives, people you know and trust many Hoskin, Joyce bats and darker computer Patel, along with a groan. as experts offering their insights less fresh, takes four

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