Today's episode has brought you buy Stillwater from focus features, starring, Matt, Damon and directed by Tom Mccarthy. Only in theatres July thirtieth still, water is the most powerful motion picture of the summer. Matt Damon Place Bill Baker. A blue collar worker from Oklahoma, who must travel to Marcin France to exonerate, has a strange daughter from a murder charge secrets run deep Stillwater in theatres July Thirtieth I have been very, very direct with secretary stolen and members of the alliance in saying that NATO members must finally contribute their fair share and meet therefrom chill out We want all of Europe to know that the United States is there. Twenty three of the twenty eight member nations are still. Not paying what they should be paying and what

supposed to be paying for their defence making clear NATO is critically important itself. Worthwhile we'd have to that's a little from this enabled justice, a smell of course, alas, present when he when, when you talk about the two percent he's fog is, if there is some gigantic pie. Somewhere, where everybody was throwing good money allies guaranteeing fair minded. It just didn't work out. I don't think I forgot the President Biden and former president tromp with starkly different messages to NATO allies at each of their first. Nato summits as president good morning and welcome to morning shower here in Washington, is Tuesday June fifteen sprays. Come on really noises. Are God it's kind?

exciting, actually see and look here- I mean I was telling your lives than John. He met Howard Hughes thing just sit there and go on the camera exactly stock. Will aid alone would show willing? May we have former chairman of the Republican National Committee and Emerson BC? Political analysts, Michael Steel to see you see, inversion, calmness and assess it at all for the watch them by David Ignatius. We greens have you and me Times Washington, Bureau Chiefs Elizabeth View Miller is with us. You know really very frightening out here now: whales and really nice to use ever tell it befell Griffin. Fifteen years ago, Phil matter where you are, you can be in a closet and if you deliver the content, everything works out our rights trail in the closet

I'm gonna missing the clause right now, but it's great dizzy. Well, we can't wait to see you here as well. Taken my way down, I'm to south of Philly right now. I've got a truck stop to do the shoulder this morning, manned space we just saw that was the longest tracking shots and good fellows through the key Just a guess might really really is David Ignatius. We showed some glimpse of last year and this year, obviously a big difference. Something occurs to me. This way can we at a meeting with with Boris Johnson, and then we have the g7 and now we're having made. I want every step of the way we work don't ever what he's got me with food later this visa things with food. You start adding now, by which I mean dork. I always go back there will. What was? What was our GDP last year we're twenty one trillion

It is about nineteen trillion, a few still, and I still great Britain there still our allies. That's forty trillion dollars of wealthy year, forty trillion dollars World year, chinese fourteen fifteen trillion. That's pretty good! That's almost the Japan that can now remember that vote from eighty nine, the Japanese we're gonna turn us into their greenery right, Russia. One point four trillion seems to me if we just take here are the home team together, this I wish politicians would explain. What a trillion dollars of strength and wealth We learned a defence spending. It dwarfs like China's Russia's all these enemies we obsess about everyday and, yes, we should be concerned, but still David. I wonder if were continuing the focus too much on the wrong thing, and so just focusing on how important having

good relations with our best allies will have ample that really is, and how on a saleable. If we take care first things. First, you don't just this trip is in an object lesson that is its always sensible to remember the numbers, just how strong the euro is what we had a demonstration of this sweet that that the Biden team talked in their preliminary conversations about the tripped that they're gonna say. America's back figure remind the world of american leadership. We saw us this week exactly what that means. In practice, I'm told them every one of these meetings involve leaders who are you most clamouring to sit down with Biden, you have had a difficult leader like a prisoner to one of Turkey ranting before the meeting that zipped it said enough,

Biden, gave a bland statement about how was productive, then you know whatever we like and then I, like so many other regions on the world stage. He has a long time relationship with her one, so we as a long term relationship but but but but I think the point is that this theme, America's back now, has a practical and that's Biden easier, it does take the bay people say you don't is is it is prudent calorie- wants just refuses to repeat that on the eve of his meeting with Putin, because his ease he's a lot calmer comfortable positions as a leader so on the eve of the meeting with Putin would surely does matter. I think Biden can say he got everything out of this trip so far wanted and most of all the basic set, your talking about America stronger Economy, boylike gangbusters be vaccinated. This huge

such were. Population is strong leader of this alliance, the showed it in and among women and Brussels messaging match the moment. Tat Nato leaders used yesterday's meeting to show a unified front against threats from Russia and China. The group collectively declared China a global security challenge citing the country's quote, assertive behaviour. For Russia leaders, There would be no quote business as usual on the world stage until Russia demonstrates compliance with it, national law, but in Bygones NEWS conference yesterday, the Washington Post, an gear and to the point we are talking about here, asked the president. He reassured ally It's that american democracy is strong in the wake of the attack on the capital said several times that America's back at allies side But-

as allies are themselves pre rattled by what happened on January, sex and attempted overturning of your election? and they may still be alarmed by the continued hold that Donald Trump has ever the Republican Party and the rise of NASH, figures like him around the world. What do you say to those allies, but have even saying to them at these meetings about how the next president of the United States can keep any promises you make. When I'm sadism to them is watch me I'm not saying anything quite frankly, going out people, as said before. Don't doubt I mean what I say: They believe that I keep my commitments when I say it. The leaders I'm dealing with in NATO and the G7. Our leaders who know Irene

history, no generics the character. The american people I know where the vast centre, the public stands, not dammit That republic, but who we are reduced, honourable nation- and I think that they have seen things happen as we have that shocked them and surprised and could have happened I think they like. I do believe the american people are not going to sustain that kind of behavior. The republican party Vastly diminished in numbers the leadership of the Republican Party is fractured and they. Trump wing in the party is the bulk of the party, but it makes up significant minority, the american people saw, have to appreciate testing

him thought it honestly laws with answer the question. I dont disagree with bands question. I think there is a lot of questions on the world stage that addressed here HU as to whether or not this is, is this a four year blip and then America continues to slide or is Joe Biden. Gonna put a stake in the ground and keep us moving forward. In the democracy that we are, but yet the stories that David is sharing about world leaders clamouring to get an America's face and the America is back statement wallets, garnering some questions from the press, I'm not sure what more Joe Biden can do beyond he's doing, which is messaging and showing it's true, you saw how long it took him to answer, be there to account high, as there is a long pause. If we're sorry answering the question and The White House is concerned about that and in a way Underneath all of this of this, you know this

and celebration of Joe Biden is real concern among the european leaders. As you say that this is just an interregnum between Trump to get another tramp tramp again or a trump like character and what happened on January six shocked us shocked the world should still out there. You see the number of Republicans you support, tromp, who think that Joe Biden is not the properly elected president So it's worrisome it. Where is this? Why house as well and where is the Europeans, so Joe Biden you're right, can't can't promise that this is the that this is now This move sailing from here on in heavy last year. You must really Michael Steel. There's the adage, of course about leading politics at the water s edge. Their present shouldn't talk about partisan politics when he goes overseas, projecting united front for the country

these there he was ass, a direct question, I suspect part of his paws off the top. There was because of that, but his message across this last week in across the world has been. We are back. The last four years many pieces of it aren't who we are in the United States, he's trying to reject them. Since that it was in fact a blip. Do you think that is buying it. I do, and I am buying it really. I think they're hopeful from it. They they, they have a high degree of experts. Should we opened the programme with the comparison of the two parts in Trump and Biden with with the NATO alliance and one transactional and you owe us money and you guys on carry your weight and the other as much as one whit we're partners were working together saw, but one they want. They want to hear that they want to reconnect to the the Washington in the President and and the U S, that they used to be connected to

then also to to the other points about ok. So what does it look like a job? I can't worry about twenty twenty four with twenty one right in front of them and so he is going to do this methodically. He took that pause for reason. He wanted to show a bit what about to say he looked at it and took it seriously, and I think for lot of our european allies. This is the first time and what, for years, five years that there sit there going. Ok, that's the sea right, the seams nor a week we can do this. Its baby steps. Putin is tomorrow by these, go to watch and try to dissect what that is, but I think the president has said budget, as he's had domestically he's now employing internationally that's going to work for him and help him. The his agenda for the longer term and inside he's taking this time. We should just wait and see how place out then, Prime Minister Boris Johnson,

where did said inside that meeting room. It's like the first day of school, it's good to see our old friends again looking at present by joining now live from Brussels. Nbc news Whitehouse corresponded MIKE memory, whose travelling with the president might good morning. What's on the agenda today and looking ahead Geneva. Tomorrow really. We can almost see the finish line on this long trip today. In fact, the lightest day on this, or for the president. He just had a courtesy call with the king of Belgium. Gonna be diving deep into the bureaucracy of the Europeans, in just in the next hour for meetings with the EU leadership as well, we expect, by the way, a significant trade announcement Bloomberg already reporting, to do with a long running dispute between the- U S and EU over Boeing Airbus and some of the terrorists that we're slapped between both entities. Over the last two in the Trump administration. In fact, yesterday, of course, one of the longest,

days of this trip. So far, as you mentioned, the president really enjoying his time, it was the largest circle of leaders that he was going to be with on this entire trip: a number of one on one's meetings that were added that were originally on the schedule, as he's Doing the most to take even these primate most of this opportunity to sit and talk face to face with some of these world leaders. It really is interesting as we look ahead to the Putin summit. How much I think has overshadowed a trip in which the wires really thinks they ve done. A lot delivered a lot for the American B really been one of the themes below the surface, of course, the larger framing of democracy and autocracy, or between the two in the twenty first century, and one of the ways Biden thinks you win that battle as a demo. Institution, is to show that you can deliver for your people. So this trade announcement today a good example sort of real concrete language in the joint statement issued by the NATO leadership yesterday

going out China for the first time really as a challenge to the global order. In addition what we already saw at the g7 to the president, is a sign of success here and some real momentum heading into that summit with Putin tomorrow Willie and make when speaking working alive pictures of the present arriving for that meeting in Brussels NBC Mike memory. Thank you very much. As Joe pointed out yes, there's a lot of attention on them tomorrow in Geneva with Lattimer Putin, but the focus really for the last couple of days has been on China and I'm sure these alliances with our allies absolutely, but we get ready for tomorrow. Here is President Biden explaining how plans to approach tomorrow's meeting with Vladimir Putin. I'm gonna make clear to President Putin. That there are areas where we can cooperate if he chooses and there is where we don't agree, making

with the red lines are. I have met with him. His bright he's, tough. And I have found that there he is a year as they say we used play ball, a worthy adversary, David he's, also resentful. It is foreign policy. We ve all talked about before that. As Robin resentment since he's taken power, the greatest catastrophe of the twentieth, century. He still believes that the collapse of the Soviet Union in here it set out every day It seems one president after another under us mates, Vladimir Putin. Does this from we'll have to see just tell me the Ngos, but it's been really striking a me, the demeanor. The two leaders in the run up to the summit? Putin In the interview at cure, summons from an embassy did with him.

Seemed to me almost truculent this and carrying all those resentment, a chip on his shoulder. But take me seriously of a hangar that Russia has been displaced from from a prime position. That's part of Putin, but never seen it at more sharply divided providing a sit well see what happens? We want to make a grievance if we can, but we're gonna make clear what the red lines are. He's a worthy adversary, the opposite of that kind of nasty sharp language of the Putin was, was using and open the door to some reasonable balance, and I think If Putin is looking for this moment to shake hands with a strong presence, which I Biden showed this week, he actually is Biden has given it to him I also think by the set of silver, pretty well to be sharp about, for some very specific, no

Some red lines is made clear on cyber on ransom, where there are really red lines coming out of this meeting. So did I it's so different torn from from Trump and he's not a supplicant, he doesn't need Putin didn't want to be. Prudence friend, I thought the worthy adversary offers. It was just saying you are I am ready to sit down. You I'll give you that, but I must Give you anything else always with what is a White House want to take away from the prudent they wanted to do for a living? it's just lower. The temperature DE emphasised Putin despair This meeting, which everyone's focused on the fact that that bind us not having a joint press conference with Putin, is really significant. He was advised not to do that. Afterwards. Remember that what's the strategy of no strategy is to stop, don't put them together on the world stage, don't don't bring puttin up two year level and Biden can control the message after it s campaign. Of course, these are but don't just weak.

Can't forget Trump and Putin in Helsinki, midway through the administration. It was one of the most astonishing public performances percent of a matter of an american president were Trump basically agree with potent. For his own intelligence agencies. That way, you Know- and this is this is a far cry from that completely different, and I do think that just one sort of DE emphasised Putin, Show show that Biden has strong. I can deal with them, but I'm not gonna get all worked up over this guy yeah, that's even strand a very clear message if he wants a number of love one or one that maybe you couldn't have thirty years ago He's had a lot of experience on the world stage. He's made a lot of mistakes and he's lost a lot, and that is like the exact great recipe for someone who will into a meeting and secondly, what what I mean you're gonna, have to make it out. One mightily seen a lot of presence. Recently made stakes. He saw George double

By saying I looked into his eyes, I saw we greens worry romantic brag about delays. To the less and after the election? I'm gonna have a lot more frites. Yes, that more freedom to get things done and, of course we saw Donald Trump time and time again, the low point being Helsinki free up that was retired. Here's a fourth present going up against Vladimir Putin at its imagine for all of those miscalculations. We haven't even talked about three sat and where the reset, all of those miscalculations. It is hard to believe that it we would have yet another present. Who would repeat the same mistake? This is not in his nature. The President Biden is a student of of institutions become

the Senate. He's come out of the White House. He's got this broad base as he is. He will tell you here, relationships with a lot of these leader by he's made a lot of mistakes in these areas. A lot of sad Middle Mr Michel, that he's learnt so he's been in that room understands it well, if he knows who sitting across from him tomorrow. So these less interested in, what's in his soul and in his eyes and would have some secret after an election or capitulate to him, as as we saw Trump did what he is doing and I think they will put his finger on the Hebrew haste he's gonna draw some red lines that we have not drawn with Putin in awhile, and we have a number of. Merging France, in which those lies have to be drawn up later,

We trust that for me, a bit nervous enamored, apparently the President Open sat for no no tanker everything I realize being here in Washington. Elizabeth doesn't have to push. The back of my here now was He was so easy just that one shot you weren't Metaxas say is like calm your hair about right. This is how do I don t? Look, you know, I'm fine with messy here so out of more than just the letters with the pandemic, California is set to left corona virus restrictions to day, as one specific variant keeps the UK from reopening, as had been put plus Senate manipulator, Mitch, Mcconnell signals and other possible Supreme Court showdown. Republicans win back the majority and twenty. Also ahead as this didn't how speaker congresswoman Catherine Clark will be here to discuss where infrastructure talk, stand on capital hell amid grow,

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right here. Ass, my guys violate a worthy successor, Herring, Carrie, Wrigley, Murray ISA died are fine, but when you do fine, but you still have risen performance for their regularly celebrating the reopening at one hundred percent All the signs that America is back, that life is returning to normal. That nature is healing. That might be the best right there, but everything will take me out to the ballgame Friday afternoon. Game sold out Wrigley field. Wrigley was one hundred percent capacity for the first time since the fall of two thousand nineteen for the clubs in the cardinals Cubs got the wind, the Chicago Cubs or in first place tied with the breweries right now, I think, it's fair to say,

America's back Joe, no doubt about it. Www we saw yesterday headline from Bloomberg event. California, before the pandemic, light of stories about how its economy was failing, its its debt was we. Was was rising. This article. Yes, he said is right now the number one economy and the United States. There is not Close at California is just booming economic play their lot of there are a lot of questions. Why, and I know that Conseil and I would say what, how exactly design tax day The high regulations can tell you that works. Blount doesn't go along with everything that we ve thought and set our entire life, but my god it is a success. Success story and more good NEWS, California is lifting,

the restrictions today economy. There has there's been booming under restrictions. One of the last to lift a lot of these California today will lift carbon restrictions according to new guidelines, fully vaccinated people will not be required to where mass vaccine location or negative covered. Nineteen test will only be required by the state, for a venue who operate under certain crowded circumstances. Meanwhile, great Britain's Prime Minister Boris John, has the laid plans to lift most remaining covert nineteen restrictions by a month as the delta variants. Jeez across the United Kingdom. The news comes and questions we're vaccine mandates here in the United States after a federal judge tossed out, a lawsuit filed by little employees in Texas and be seen his course Miguel Armagh AIR has more, as our name It marks the loss of more than six hundred thousand lives. The highly contagious delta variant first identified in India

remains the most serious threat here it how, after exploding across the UK and now extending that nations lockdown for another month, a new analysis suggests the fully vaccinated are more than ninety percent protected against hospitalization, from the very it if you are vaccinated, you are protected, but a fight is under way against vaccinations. A federal judge has just dismiss the lawsuit at Houston. Method is hospital siding with the medical center? That's requiring all twenty five thousand employees be vaccinated by June twenty first her face termination. We are prepared to get terminated. This point playing. They ve been nurse Jennifer Bridge, which says the small group will appeal, but it's more hospitals required vaccinations as part of employment, more protests and litigation. Our common heritage is going to work. Say I don't want to do. These things can be workable, who are pretty soon

employers. Gonna recognised vaccination is the safe workplace. In addition to hospital select, airlines and universities are requiring some employees to get vaccinated and now, with an estimated thirty percent of Americans, still not back at the office. The legal ground work is now set for more businesses to follow suit. Our thanks to NBC Miguel Maguire for that report. Do you know where we're we're we're talking about reopening and it is. It is so frustrating that some, if your hospital worker right seems that that would come on a basic requirement these acts and enjoys not, however, they are pushing against their will. No doubt in, I was watching some at midday

it on television, saying well, if everybody else's vaccinate, why should I be vaccinated? Oh my gosh, what are you thinking not just as it makes sense to Michael? I gave my friends family members, other people who were vaccine thousand crazy thing is there acting like this is the first We have ever had a vaccination and they hit. America and their global witness. That can I dont understand if other people are getting back to me Why do I need to be vaccinated? I dont understand if children are usually this, why are we want? And what is your children? All of them had to be vaccinated for polio for measles, step four about what was their chance of getting Polio a lot less and getting over it, and yet that we ve been doing it for decades. So you want to vaccinate

one get hurt, immunity up and a white these out at once. Again we all know this, and the people who are fading. Ignorance now decide to have children. They some about me lad and any yet that's! Well. Not saying what we ve been doing this. We ve been doing this now for five years. It's on them arrival, Google and they are not able to blame anybody else for whose name, far far far for sympathising with fascists and for putting Other Americans lives at risk there, just I M so readily into the bay. He said, nice no excuse a hundred percent with you. I've said it would For now reiterate it again, you can't help stupid if, if you asked, if you, if you're hospital worker and you In the end, you are in the throes of this thing, you're coming out with it

well, if there get vaccinated? Why should I that's too it's stupid. So again, again, girls began everything soon, as we all know about best reservations, we ought to expedite by the way Willie that can vacant. We look at their children's vaccination forms. But in its had occurred I also met- go to school and listen vaccinated them for several things at the kids are very, very unlikely to get, and yet when we hear that we hear those we would not like it come on. Go have really I mean, when you hear when you hear people say, I want to learn more what you still here, what more do you need to know? We ve been reporting on this for months and months and months, their medical papers there, yea and CDC gangsters, guidance. There's everything you need to know about. It is right there and I would just

We started this conversation tying about this dealt a variant worried about in the UK that they ve seen in india- and there are some cases of here in the United States that all the more reason to get the vaccine medical experts will tell you the way to beat the delta variant is to get the vaccine, because these vaccines have been proven. Highly highly effective. Against the variance as well. So if you don't want it to come back here, if you don't want to see more cases in more shut down in your life changed again, the answer is to get the vaccine you're in any using. Let me be very clear and reformed in a state again futile get the vaccine if you want, or s getting sick, if you want, this guy, a kind of Labored carry ok, how long but I am going lobby, give you wanna to five six seven faxes cigarettes, and I do that if you gotta smokin good with that sort of a libertarian those big jobs. Come all. You want not blueberry

and your heard. Well, I got that goes down as a gal. I want you to do what you want to do, but if I'm a small business owner right, if I am, rested on the company and I put up a store and everything we accept the worry about making payroll every two weeks. I have to worry about taxes every two weeks. I have to worry about regulations and notion everything else, I should be able to elect. But come into my store that I want to come into my store if they dont have Back signal. I should say I want to keep my customers safe, and yet their acts governors Mika you're, telling companies your forcing companies who are using centralized power of the state to order them. Do things that are unsafe. Our businesses That's just really doing. Ok, that's all I'm saying is there. There is one thing when people are choosing to not to look at the facts, but there is also, I think, a great site.

And of America that has kind of bought into this cult of trump. There are law makers in Washington, your republican party that are fusing to stand for the truth and for this country and for the constitution and so are feeding in two I'll say: information and would not call stupidity about the virus or about the January six attack and as change put it very eloquently, there's a large section of the country that has been misled, and this is what registration is up again and it doesn't help to call everybody's stupid. Having said that terrorism, really there is some people are choosing to be. I understand your point by point, but people who choosing to be stupid to Willie's point the face of all the facts we have been in this thing. How long now I mean it's not like we're just discovering this thing:

a covert maintained that kills. That kills. People is not like these hospital workers and other professionals or in health care. Right I mean that's our am those are put together a family recipe for four cure. All right said they understandings what's going on here. So yeah, I'm sorry, it's but you're you're in that role at your misleading people and taking them down a path as a health care professionals. They shouldn't go to your point about politician. They're playing the game because they got these screaming in the corner at them that they are afraid of its net of asserting leadership and informing, educating fast, sharing that information to elevate the level, of course and understanding they play down too stupid. So smile employ every six months or a forty percent, and forty percent republican members of Congress would not tell CNN the bed whether they are vaccinated which tell you

no wonder they haven't land or they probably have been, but just don't want to. I don't want. You know, no, don't know, and that is where would that's where my anger is is focused, endure. I got April that were first in line yes to get the vaccines and then their Linda and David one. Other thing, let's be clear, on a couple of points that we want. This did not start with them from their banana Baxter's before dandruff; secondly, Donna Europe has carefully at times chosen to say, get a vaccine. I did It's a great black sea, the vat is ruled out, he's not he's not out father but met again, but I just I just want to make this prince one more time to Republican and the Democrats alike. Republicans have something to be very proud of.

We can go and every time I do something like this, I get in trouble with. May I say what you're doing go ahead and do it Are you sure, mother lies and pins calls I have supported, will do that? Don't act that way now get so anyway, Applicants can look at the maximum Go Donald Trump. He and his team did a pretty damn good job, picking a miser, picking modern, Didn't we linkage, they can see, you cannot use it. Psychotic nervous, take me, but you don't They did a good job. Compare their choices, the EU, is choices good, I am talking so Republicans for stand up and applaud. You are your president, your team

what your job so Joe Biden. If you're a Democrat, stand up and celebrate the fact that you can, the logistics and away the Donald Trump just wasn't good doing some show girl or team between being America, there's always from both sides celebrate this is incredible one on our bible leader for this at a press conference yesterday in Brussels. First, they said was we are dealing with covered. He said to the all the world's leaders. He said there buddy washing him, and it was that the measure of America's back we're not occur is he cut training. We may have some crazy people before reasons. Just don't wait to get shots, don't wanna get vaccinated, don't wanna tell you if they ve been vaccinated, but looking in the aggregate we are so far ahead of, but he else and Country that was disordered, I just couldn't take care of its public health now is

the job done, and I thought I was telling that was the first thing I want to say this press conference that's a sign that the covered his back and Juno Joe There will be people who, for crazy reasons, war resist. But again I thought Abiden was saying to Republic instead to the to the world of the country. Watch me why just for not crazy or come around so was it was that expression of coffers? How so while, since we ve heard, got a self confident comfortable with himself President transaction gauge any chose this trip to make an acid at defies. It acts in the five hundred million doses that the United States will send around the world and that with the really significant each has this trip to do it. That's another sign of a man as back for leading the way and under pressure of course, were sending for sending the vaccines made. It adds that Churchill Club

after exhausting all other possibilities. America always does the right waylay one last data point dad's put a button. Joe and maker, the American Medical Association announced on Friday that ninety six percent of doctors in America. Ninety six percent of doctors have received the vaccine and that forty five percent of those remaining not gotten it plan to get the vaccine. So if you don't trust the government, if you don't trust the media, ask yourself if you trust your doktor. Ninety six percent of whom that sounds pretty homage to ninety. Six percent of doctors have Willie at a hundred percent of members, ok. So one final note, though, build the Plaza New York City mayor, announced hometown heroes, Ticker tape parade. This is actually very very well deserved to thank health CARE, occurs essential workers and first responders, think of what they ve all been through. The parade will happen until I have seven

through the so called canyon of Heroes and coming up. The last best hope for divided America. Our next gassed argues that the country, is not split into two camps, but for the Atlantic, George, join us, but that Place NBC News. Presidential historian, Michael Passionate joins the table. He's working right now, as you know, will be right back. Our world is facing some big challenges: Chuck Dodd breaks them down a deep dive into a new topic instead of covering all the

stories of one single subject impacting american politics exploring in explaining the critical issues that affect our future made the press reports, pursued season two are now available on demand on, God. It is already a vastly our welcome. Back to morning Joe joining as now Arthur and NBC News Presidential historian, Michael Bash LAW, sends staff rider. The Atlantic magazine, George Packers with us, seize the author of the new book past Hope America. In crisis and renewal, and it's good to have you both I'm bored with us, it's great to be here with everybody and table. You can hear us all talking over other such as like the old days, some some George, you know I like to go

around telling people at the end of the day we're we're really we're just one America, where the United States, of American when you say now four America's free America, Smart America, Real America. America break it down. Forests will Obama. Tried to say they were just one America and he got the back of the hand of the other half. So it's been tried and failed Joe, but my analysis, is that we are certainly two countries, but those two countries are each split into two start with free America. We Reagan's America's Libertarian America low taxes. The irregular shouldn't turn business loose, get government out of the way spin, the dominant political. All idea of my adult life it had a run in the Eightys and Ninetys, but it did not create widespread prosperity. In fact that I would say it help create a lot of inequality which we live with today. Smarter

that is the America, the professional class, the educated, the meritocratic, who believe that your talents and efforts we'll take you as far as they can, but Walter believing credentials and that class, which starts believe that, with the belief that we are having has become a kind of aristocracy where children are now born into the meritocracy and their ticket is already punched, before they have even been tested, real merit. Is trumps, America, it's the right wing, populist America, the heartland that was a kind of rebellion against Free America, win the promises of the older version of conservatism failed a lot of the country, but we got was a rebellion. Against the top of the Republican Party from the masses and instead its its native, is its dark. It xenophobic and it doesnt want openness in trade and immigration and finally,

South America, which is also a rebellion from below against smart American? The millennium generation, who says they're, meritocratic errants you'd, been lying to us. The country is not progressing in fact, its past system, in which certain groups our oppressing other groups since time immemorial, and we have to fight for justice which may never come because this country's born and original sin. So those are the four narratives the dominant narrowed as they leave out a lot of Americans who go half the voice to shape dominant narratives, but those what we have been living with really for the last forty or fifty years why the past forty or fifty years? What was well the triggering point that caused the division that cause? What you see this splintering? I think it began seven. These Joe and really two things. One is the rise of a multi ethnic multi, cultural democracy, We live in today, which has opened door

for some and threatened others, and the second is the end of the industrial age and the beginning of the service and information economy which has created these massive economic inequalities. I think inequality is at the heart of our fracture Americans said Tocqueville have a passion for equality. They all want to feel ass if is good. Is anyone else and we end up in red classes, from what you can't break out, you're born into it you'll die into it. A frustration, resentment and bitter competition for status, resources in Susan. I think inequality is really at the heart of these ills you don't Michael when my favorite box and they to the mid eighties may lose a medieval eightys, the reckoning them Our shared equities talking about really started there. I think it will. We began when you

general motors in more people working for General Motors Sudan the assembly lines living the good life lived, yet a whether from flat Michigan that epsilon into you name it across Amerika, more people working for just general matters than their work, today for Apple through Google, Facebook, Microsoft, you name it with that hollowing out of the middle class, lot of things that that Board has been thrown up in the air. No, I think that's exactly right show just what George was talking about and what you guys talk Almost every day, the warning we're living in a country that is almost a rebuff George Washington's Dream nation that was getting more and more united course. It was one nation when George Washington became president for all sorts of Israel. But it was always an ideal and the difference

We then now, as we have now got a political system capitalize on these kinds of division. This is the way you get raise money. This is the way it become leader of your party in Congress, depending on party, and so as long as this is going on with social media and the system that we're. Yet this is likely to be more for now is lines that Georgia's talking willing so George I wanted in a little better that Real America's you calling you say the term was first coined by Sarah Palin, and she was. You have a great line in there that she was the John the Baptist to the coming of Trump. So talk little bit about what she started: governor Pale and started and what she was responding to in this post nine eleven world. She set it at a fundraiser, which is the only place. Politicians on the campaign trail actually tell the truth. I think of Obama.

Guns in religion, Hillary Clinton, with the deplorable Mitt Romney, with the tape resent the makers. She said that she loved coming to the Real America, where the hard working patriotic people grow, our food and fight our wars live, so she was devised not since the real and the fake America, which presumably is where we live in New York, but she was in North Carolina in the Piedmont area which had suffered the loss of tobacco, textiles and furniture, making the same kind of hell out that Joe is talking about in Michigan, and it was no hunger, the Americas she was imagining. It was a place of many pathologies in social ills, with multiple generations, in poverty and on public benefits. It did not look like the real America Sarah payments imagination and that America had become hostile to elites, to experts, to institutions disbelieving of vaccination campaigns, for example, ends

european gave it My it was The set of ideas, so much is an ideal, was a kind of white identity politics and I think she was in some ways the trailblazer of american identity, politics, which Trump then rose to brought to a new level and made into a winning political programme and is surviving. Paling is really crucial figure, even she became a kind of failed celebrity. We shouldn't forget that she was there turning point in the Republican Party and the breaking up of the old She between business and Angelica Christians, which we now see in our politics every day you know well Willie. I talked about the reckoning when you talk about Sarah pale and I go back and you want to talk about a divided America goes both ways by the way. Are you

tat you might America, I think, about Saturday night life. You scared the reporters firm from the New York Times, a Washington Buzz NBC, I'm sure this get. They were all sitting there talking about biggest side going to Alaska, and they were horrified and curled up and fatal vision that they are asked me the most inane idiotic questions about. Where did they get there? I don't know or shot soil lattes in now and exaggerating Sarah really did, boil down the real divide early on, not just between Sarah Palin and those of us in the media, but but between what Sarah Palin we real America Elite, America. You can ask friend Nicole Wallace, about where the energy at those campaign events were late in two thousand, eight Michael Bash lost a lot of those crap frankly were coming out, the most enthusiastic

to see Sarah Palin. She was exciting. She was talking about them in a language that they hadn't heard before at least out in the public and as George described, she started something that we're still reckoning with here today, you're, absolutely right, Willie. I think you will agree with me that the court will be delighted to be reminded of a roll on me. So rise, for years from a right now right exactly with the smoke off of your Iphone by a single clear exactly, but but it was this rural areas of this rule, tradition and american politics. That's what George Wallace was talking about. Eighteen sixty is when he talked about the point he added The watch and the bureaucrats with butter sandwiches in their brief case, He was saying these people do not live like you and I, member about a little. But I was a little kid, but I was living in Illinois and we word no means are a family George Wall Sites, but for part of it the did ring a little.

The true was decisions that affect journal if our being made in New York and there being made in Washington DC, we know that, to a large extent, they not they made in Illinois, Michael Matchless, I'll, get a job to say that I think Georgia's thesis is fascinating job, has a theory of the case of how to fix this and the theory. The cases still at home, deal was covered, get there a growing fast and then these terrible problems of quality unfairness anger gender resolve themselves and virulent really curious, Ass George, whether he thinks that that theory, the case is gonna work. I agree they didn't adding binding doesn't belong to any of those four America's he sort of proceeds them, which is to his great advantage. She's, not log in to the

divisions of the four he's more like a Roosevelt or Truman Democrats. I think equality is at the heart of violence to mess. Program and changing our lives are material conditions for the better across the board across groups and showing that government can actually play a positive role in people's lives. That's He had an ideology which he doesn't really. I don't think he thinks and ideological terms, but that would be it to me. That's our only chance at the end of the book. I talk about equal America, which is american, which everyone feels that they have a place their status, is the same. Their conditions are not exactly we. There will always be disparities, but at least we won't be locked into classes from which we can escape, and I do think that binds ball there you can succeed, seems to be fought out every day in Washington in at the moment, is a bottle. Thank you.

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