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good morning. Happy Friday welcome morning, geologists, Friday June eighteen table for June tint. We have a lot going on this morning. A conservative dominated Supreme Court yesterday dismissed the latest attempt by report can to eliminate Obama CARE, leaving intact insurance coverage for thirty one million Americans by a vote of seventy two with Justice, Stephen Briar writing for the majority. The case was dismissed on that Save your basis of lack of standing. The court held that a Texas led coalition of GEO P controlled states into individual plaintiffs has not suffered any injury and therefore had no right to bring suit tromp guarantees, Cavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett voted in the mud already on a ruling that leaves in place they entail. Parity of the affordable care act,

Justice is Samuel Alito and Neil Gore such dissented. So Willie NEWS, Big news from the Supreme Court this morning, especially when you look at the vote. Amy Coney Bear. We heard from a lot of progressive and a lot of democratic centres that she was on a mission to destroy the affordable care act, not the case yesterday, and not the first time that trumpet Injustices have sided with the court's liberals and two thousand eighteen, Neil Gorse. It was the We voted on a case about deporting under committed immigrants for violent crimes to say in the law was too vague in two thousand nineteen Brett Cavanaugh, surprise many when he sided with the court's liberals. Willing then a phoney users could pursue antitrust law suits against apple over its Appstore Cavanaugh wrote majority opinion in that case, and last year it was gorgeous then, who join liberal justices in a ruling that active members of the algae the community from workplace discriminate,

so Joe. We know that confirmation exercises are hyper, partisan, circuses and in many cases, when we're looking at Supreme Court Justices and Supreme Court nominees. But in this case the central criticized of any Coney bear it was it was on a mission to use the term to destroy the affordable care act. Yesterday she voted to uphold it. You know, there's a lot of things that are disturbing american politics. The clown shows that these these nomination battles have turned into through the years the on both sides. We could talk about one hat With Justice Cavanaugh we can, we can talk what happened on others We need all the way back to Robert Bork screeching and yelling and screaming on both sides, which are actually deeply. Venture to people that actually follow the court. Understand that sometimes it's It is cut and dry

and Willie you you can you can even look at the other end. Where the city official our fear was soon over over adoption. And over whether same sex partners could adopt. Children are not now, This is a case that could have ended up five four, if Amy County bear it and bright cab, nor had followed a leaders. Concurrence, and it was a red hot concurrence that a lot of people on the right would have absolutely love, I think, is Strong, narrowly telling debate chose instead on an issue. That was going to be this divisive decide. with John Roberts and and still we get to the proper outcome, perhaps a little less. With with less sharp edges a unanimous. Nine did nothing verdict that that says an awful lot about at least

in these cases, so far about Amy currently bear it about Bright Cavanaugh about John Raw and their understanding of the Supreme Court. Obviously again is yes, it is a legal institution, but there certainly are political considerations as well as in the case of the affordable care decision. It was seventy two vote only gourd and a leader descended in that opinion. Let's brain cheap, Whitehouse correspondent for the New York Times Peter Baker. Good morning. So I should we be, surprise that the size of the vote, perhaps the seven too, to vote on the affordable, correct decision here, while on the one hand, yes, in the sense that we have begun and expressing recent near to think of the court in the same way, we think of Congress, we think of it as just another political institution that we refer to it in a six three court as if it were just basically a mini slated body with the political parties that are ready.

We knew phenomenon we ve seen over the years republican appointees. You turned out to be liberal and democratic point. They turn out to be somewhat more moderate, a concerted and their presence might expected. But in recent years we ve seen it far more, You know, predictable set of opinions from justice is depending on who they were appointed by Mr Mine, send it back, there's not a political body. In the same way, the Congress is that there are in fact different equities is justice see them and that they are willing to think out of the ideological and partisan box at times that doesn't mean that every country bearing the brunt cabinet are suddenly liberals they're going to rule with the conservatives the vast majority to tie, but there will be moments when they see legal arguments. It don't bet their view of the law in this case. We're talking about a course would not gave the merits of the case are not just talking about whether or not the case had been brought in the first place there saying notice, I don't have a reason to bring this case because they weren't

by anything they have standing best in legal terms. What s interesting is in India to go back to the time when the term administration join this case so own lawyers, told him not to they told him. This was a loser case, not because of the standing issue action, but because the merits that the court and even get to they think on the merits, the court would have ruled some others told Trot nine zero against him, because in fact, the man so the argument were actually want the marriage. The argument is that the law couldn't stand. If you took out that tax and I'll be right it without the tax penalty that they had removed. As Stephen Colbert mentioned in two thousand, seventeen at the Russian. The law should fall because Congress wouldn't have intended allotted for without it. Well, in fact, Congress did both on keeping the rest of the law, even as it got rid of that text so the lawyers told tromp there's no way. You're gonna win. This argument. Don't go with that! You want with it anyway and of course,

You do end up losing at the Supreme Court, not honoured marriage, but not in getting to the marriage because they talk about standing. So I think that your mind is spent. More is a war. Electable than we like to think of it. Even Of course the ideologies are pretty strong. Among these processes. Ideologies are strong, but there is, of course, Peter a difference between Clarence Thomas's conservatism on the court and John Roberts and we are seeing Brett Cavanaugh again, a guy who was was vilified and you just. It was a disgraceful display, meek and I said at the time will say they get a disgraceful display what was turned up and made up about bright Cavanaugh. Michael, I have a naughty was given the national stage to talk about rape rooms this than the other. cause the constitution was going to be shredded and the republic was going to be.

to its knees. If you look at Brett Kevin over the past several years, there seems to be a lot more John Robertson, him and say a leader are Clarence Thomas. You I'd that right. Obviously, if you were to categorize article you say that you are just as leader and justice. Thomas are closer than the other servers are to each other, maybe Neil Gore such in some of those case. It seems to have been more on the elite. Oh Tom, aside, in a number of cases, we don't really know enough about any going about. We assumes earning because of her service on the appeals court because it the thing she has written, but we're still, running about her obviously- and I think that the other thing we need to remember the injustices of all that time, not all of them but allow them do chances. You know, change over time, their thinking evolves and in an ships with the tenor of the court in the tenor of the times

Robert, who was seen as a strong, solid conservative, the operative citizens United CASE, which got rid of a lot of finance rules You know who is been very sceptical of the action case, though with years obviously concerned reciting too is seen as part of the swing boat in the middle, even if he doesn't this things anymore with it We only three liberals to join at times we're going to see, I think, a more fractured court than the sixth red number that we the four allowed, it seems that indicate today's ruling was the third time, the third time the Supreme Court effectively saved the law. The four it was in twenty twelve by a vote of five to four. When the court held that the penalty, we're not having insurance is a tax that Congress, it isn't all to lobby. The second support court ruling came and twenty fifteen by a vote of six, the three allowing the government to provide tax subsidies to the underprivileged to buy

health insurance. The law has all survived in Congress, a Jew P led house paths sixty three different measures in six years to either repeal or severely research the SBA according to us, too, sixteen Newsweek Report one narrowly maiden through the Senate in twenty fifteen to be vetoed by President Obama, but in July, twenty seventeen with Donald Trump and the White House Republicans were poised to enact ACE, slimmed down or skinny repeal of Obama CARE, but the late hour, Arizona, Senator John Mccain casting their deciding vote against it with the thumbs down that broad applause. in the chamber. Remember that moment joining us now, chair of the damage National Committee, Jamie Harrison Jamie greatly you on the show. What what's your reaction to the latest Scotus Ruling

good morning, Meeker listen be affordable. Peer act is here to stay and that such a great thing not for Democrats, but for all american we're going you can union Americans in this country, a love of conditions, Had this down many alone, sports would have lost their healthcare coverage and would have gone. excellent Starfleet. Here we are. having heard the Republican say, all wherefore, pre existing conditions, but they tried every damn thing that they could take with. You here from many many Americans, and I'm glad that the Supreme Court has acted in the matter. That it hasn't has been consistent in making sure we keep the affordable care for all Americans, particularly in the midst of a pandemic Good morning, Mr Chairman, it's been about an eleven year fight of conservatives and Republicans trying to strike down the affordable care act since it was passed under President Obama. Some experts have looked at this really yesterday and

those previous in the Supreme Court on this issue and said this is the end of the road new thing This is the end of the road in terms of the opposition to the affordable care act. We will see whether you know one of the things that we are still fighting, particularly in red states like the one we have been now you're in South Carolina were Republicans, are still fighting against easy and american expansion components. He himself you wanna government would a governor would expand. Medicate covered two hundred fifty two, almost three hundred thousand in people and give them healthcare insurance, and it would be wrong to the healthcare industry and the state many of the rule hospitals at a closed over over this. country. Many of them were in red states that have refuse expand, Mavriky, and so This is an opportunity for you governors in these areas to actually help the people that they represent that needed that they cling.

and so I think the fight will probably moved to the stage where we're going force and try to do all that. We can try to figure out how we get help here too. The meaningful in these states that desperately need help here. At this moment,. A genuine change topics for one second, Joe Mansion. Obviously, the news trying to strike a deal on a voting it's a piece of legislation are voting. Protection sort of a cop wise on HR wanderings, actually get allotted Democrats that are interested in talking about it. Some Republicans, even though republican leadership. now shying away from it, because it looks like it, it might have a bipartisan chance of success. I'm curious, What do you think about this legislation? It really is down the middle. It has things that Republicans like no idea which, as you know, is very popular nationwide purging of roles after a couple years, but then on the democratic cited bandit early voting and also the end of June,

man during something something limit or something everybody here Stacy Abrams is come out said it's going in the right direction. Other Democrats are saying that this really is about? It looks like a bipartisan bill. You have some republican shying away from Adam curious. What are your thoughts on it? What listen, I think, Man, jewish proposal would take a step forward. The only right projections in this country- and I think that is a positive step lesson see what progress in many of us He was no, not only a nobody hell no, but it seems like he s, often this stance and is willing to work some common ground and move forward. We need rebuilding a problem in this country. That problem is that you got republicans trying to suppress the right to vote in many. states that we see around the nation I am heartened to see

The discussion movement for would love to see some Republicans join Democrats in that effort to make sure that we can reform voting in this country mean there are some lots of each one that really really crucial. We'd. All think in, I think more. Americans do not believe billion a year should be able by our elections, motion Europeans do not believe that politicians should choose who their voters are. We believe that the border should choose who represent them, and so these are popular consent This is a reason why the Coke brothers are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into going. Its age. Our wine and ass. One is because they The standards will eliminate their power to control our elections, and our actions need to be in the control of american people are and see Chairman Jamie Harrison thanks. So much for being with us. We greatly appreciate it present buying. Is

doing what he says will go down as one of its greatest honours its president commitment hitting the end of slavery in the United States present by made history by signing legislation to make June teens a federal holiday to teach. More exposed a long, hard night they re subjugation and a promise were burning wood income. This is a day profound, in my view, profound weight and profound power. They won't you remember the stayed terrible toll the slow we took on a country and continues to do before signing the Bell yesterday by gave special recognition tonight

four year old openly. She is known as the grandmother of June thirteenth because she has been advocating for over forty years for jus teeth to become a federal holiday. You are incredible. Woman is open. You really are He's a giant growin up in taxes. Should your family? Would celebrate your teeth in June? nineteen thirty nine when she's twelve years, all the way white mob towards her family home? But such aid never stopped her, Joy is now given venture to Harvard University Pulitzer Prize Winning author, a net Gordon read her claimed book is titled jus teeth that what would he had long before you? all those you had a little bit a problem: people outside of taxes In writing? This holiday and

I think this morning and the words my grandmother, grandmother, Joel this must take, rag off the churn, this has really you bid for you a national holiday. Would you ve even believe this when you started writing this book now? I wouldn't believe did, I have to say Joe. I said when I was younger. I felt peak about full celebrating, but I'm the only happy about it now, but I didn't. Painted now. I certainly didn't pissed anticipate the quickness of everything. That's happened this week. Certainly I also so talk about it. Talk about what it means to you talk about what it means means that this country, well Jim TEETH, is tailor made. I love it because I'm a historian its tailor made for thinking about history. You have to ask what happened when it happened. Why?

and afterwards and almost every celebration that I've seen every institution who does it also has a component of education it with it, and so, it's one of those holidays just will have little commodified. There will be Matra sales, undoubtedly twenty thirty years now, but they told me people will always remember what is actually is about. So professor, the mattress sales aside, I think your surprise it at the speed that this has taken place is in. As someone who understands the day and the significance of it so well about how fast the country has learned If you ask most Americans a couple of years ago, particularly white Americans, what is June tea? They pay couldn't give you the answer with that's changed thanks to people like you and your book to educate. american public. So what do you think people should know about June to If that they don't know already well one of the thing

that they should know is that is part of the process of emancipation. It was emancipation, wasn't just one lightning strike their different points. Emancipation proclamation, the Follow Richmond June teeth and the actions of enslaved people themselves who ran away from plantations effectually did their own emancipation. That way, so I want people to think about it in terms of the whole assets of bringing african american people out of slavery in the country. Out of, as the president said yesterday, in the moral stand that existed because of the institution. So what I think is interesting is that we have federal holidays so that we can recognise whether its sacrificer suffering or key moments and our history, so by the way today the federal, how a day, not to mistake the confusion, because, actually June thirteenth falls.

the Saturday. So today everybody is a federal holiday and I know everybody wants to get that information correct, but that this is also a day, but now Americans can say well. Why is it a federal holiday and learn? Perhaps things that we have glossed over in the past or tried to forget? Instead of trying to forget, we are remembering the absolutely in that's really important. That's a first step towards thinking about how things can be changed today were linked to this pass, their legacies of slavery legacy in the aftermath of it and its goods, which is important for us to know about these things, even though its unpleasant for lots, People and there are efforts now to stop people from remembering in talking about these kinds of things, but it out they won't be successful. Information is not kept in o can't be kept secret forever, and I am glad that people now we're thinking about this about

day all right and that Gordon Red? Thank you. So much had us, it seems to me the book you decide to do during the pandemic. Quality impact we entirely asian big do we really greatly appreciated and Peter Baker really quickly, just wanted to ask you to sum up some up this week for joy by the administration. How are they feeling about the past week and how is Washington in the foreign policy establishment feeling about about the Gee seven, a meeting with a potent course. The meeting with NATO yeah dictated by MR should girls at the trip went pretty well. Obviously, he met with members of the g7 with NATO allies then cast off by this meeting with reboot and in Geneva? Ah, you know the goal

was simply to say basically I'm not Donald Trump we're gonna be back to work Jackie relationship, we're not going be fighting with our ally; you're, not gonna, be he in our enemies. I think that basically sent those mess just then they doesn't mean that there are real issues still here dividing them. There are, of course, are very different points of view between states, its allies in Europe about China, prices, which is emerging as the number one focal point I think of those discussions. What do we do about how rotational to be about at Germany, ITALY, a couple the european countries you to more as an economic partner Dan threatened Americans in british and other sea at the moment there are some divide still there, but I think that the present got home and felt tat. He had got most of what, when it does not matter to me. There are a lot of the liberals. More sir. Not eating come under the new treaty and come home will do you no tangible concretely,

remains. I dont think that suddenly America and Russia good friends again, that's not the case. Then we Russia, the goal, was more minimal. Wasn't dick make things better necessarily but to keep things are getting worse, which is minimal goal, but given the provocation, seen from Russia Way we the cyber attacks and much interference, my muscling its neighbours that myself and my be at least some progress, and now where's he comes back to a more roiling domestic com. You know situation with infrastructure and other issues waiting for him back here, how you gonna get those with some are starting to you. and straight in the recess, not too long from now. You got a lot of choices on his table on its plate, and I gotta be consequential, want to talk about that straight ahead. Peter Baker Thank you very much, and still I had a morning Joe, the Justice Department releases previously unseen body camera footage, the January sixth riot at the. U S,

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Parliament has released new body? Can video from a metro, Deasey police officer who is defending the cat, but on one January six it was used in the case gets Thomas Webster? These are retired marine, also retired, New York City police officer he's wearing a red jacket and care, flagpole. We should warn you this video is disturbing. yeah. Yes, that's it DC

true are being beaten with flagpole Webster. The man in the Red jacket is facing seven federal charges, including assaulting police unlawfully entering capital grounds with dangerous weapon in civil disorder. He is pleaded not guilty too. All of those charges journeys. Now our times reporter and MSNBC National Security analyse Michael Schmidt and NBC for Washington, investigative, reporter and MSNBC contributor. Scott Macfarlane morning to both Scott you obtained this deal. J video, this body can footage, what are we learn, besides the obvious from watching this, about the defended, in this case, a willing Thomas Webster's, not only formerly police department officer, but also a former marine and defend, say the flag on that flagpole was a mirage in core flak and when he lost the flying, all they say topple. The officer started punching the officer. Mrs critical

reporting about one. In ten January, six defendants are being held in jail, Pre trial, Thomas WEBS is one of them and listen to the arguments he made last night trying to get released from jail. He's going to argue that the officer is responsible, that the officer was mocking the protesters that the officer changed peaceful protesters into on peaceful protesters by using chemical spray and that he was making provocative hand gestures. We look back into Thomas WEBS Fbi file, which was posted by the courts last night, Webster's that only a former Nypd officer. He worked the city hall, be during the Julia. Administration and all from ninety ninety one through twenty eleven willing, good luck with argument Joe. You can't help but think, as you watch, that video of a Deasey Metro, police officer being beaten that another officer, Michael Finance, walk the halls of Congress two days ago and couldn't get so much as a handshake from some Republicans up on the hill

get a handshake from Republicans up on the hill. There's still insisting many in the insurrectionists carcass, are insisting that it was a stir, then I'm just regular tour groups. You you ve We have a United States Senator who from Wisconsin. Who is saying that that here fill in danger at all, there is no threat that these were peace, loving people and its. not the case these. These were people that were leading an insurrection. They, if you look, I know, people in the insurrectionists carcass that and again certifying the results and voted against honouring those officers the police officers back to them. I know that their deeply offended by the use of the term insurrectionists or sedition

but if you actually look at the federal statute, that of course, get passed by car creates the definition of conspiracy to commit sedition is it falls right in line with that, Michael Schmidt, it falls right in line with people, Committing violence are taking action to try to stop a constitutional action by being enacted by Congress or other members of the United States government, and in these these images or x Ordinarily stark. The the video that you just played high ideally reminded me of one of the most important things. I think I learned in my reporting throughout Aftermath of the insurrection trying to understand it in and that's it, about policing, which is that most police officers when they have a confrontation. It happens over a few seconds.

Maybe over a few minutes, it's something that plays out, but whatever it is, it plays out very quickly and what these officers habit. Front at the capital was something that went on for hours after hours, and sustained, combat a glimpse of which we we have a chance to see here which is so different in such a more traumatic event to have to deal with it was true we have some of these officers- have described hand hand medieval, combat, that's what it was, and that is the type of thing than officers are confronting on. Daily or even yearly basis on the story and that's what We did so ordinary. The entire event was how long it went on in the types of injuries that came with that sustain this so

Michael other House. Judiciary committee is requesting that the Department of Justice disclose any gag orders put in place by the Trump administration. The request comes after the committee Open an investigation into the departments, secretive dealings under the previous restoration that includes gag orders, to prevent news organisations from wording, democratic law makers, reporters and even former Whitehouse Council done Mcgann that their records had been subpoenaed. The latter two attorney General Merrick Garland Democrats on the committee right in part quote. We must ask why the department repeatedly pursued gag orders preventing companies from notifying their users of sweeping information requests by federal law enforcement, spite realising early in the effort that no criminal charges would result from these investigations.

Your thoughts on this, especially since new, found yourself front and centre as part of this story, so the I have an experience with this, because really this year the Justice Department got two went to Google to try and get contents for my email, but they did it secretly. Under one of these, so gang borders and what ensued was a cop we secret process that ended between the top lawyer for the New York Times David Mc Cross and the Justice Department negotiating about. How the Justice Department was seeking these emails and gave him across attempts to stop the Justice Department. From doing this, its fight ensued, overs. Several months up until two ex ago, on a Friday night, when I found out about it for the first time so my company,

the New York Times, was engaged in this litigation with the Justice Department in which the the times could not even to we, because they had been gagged by a federal judge about What was going on, that's an example of how these words function and how they keep intervene. Whose information the government is seeking in the dark that there is even a there was a legal fight going on for four I e mails are contents for my emails that I had no idea about until I sat down and looked at my own email on Friday night two weeks ago and found out for my general council that he had been fighting in the Justice Department for me, so Scott Macfarlane before we let you go, I just want to go back to the videos for just a second. Do you expect in your reporting that we may see more footage from body and from different security cameras from other angles of what happened on January six? We all have certain images

and into our minds for media coverage of that day, but there is just so much more footage of what happened. I should do what they expect several morbidity. over the coming days, including a Federico Klein, who is the Trump Administration State Department appointee, was allegedly part of the insurrection. We fought our first piper bidding Back in March, we succeed in getting video the man from Maryland, accused of using a baseball bat on police. I gotta tell you really it's being audio from this footage, which is perhaps most haunting that guttural this roll and vulgar screaming, which is so compelling reason these videos are being pursued because these are exhibits. The feds are using to keep some of these alleged insurrectionists locked up, Kashmir and Scott Macfarlane. Thank you both very much for being on this morning and disturbing story that we're going to continue to cover on many levels in the months to come, coming up our next cast as a democratic congressmen who

to know why his colleagues are throwing flames instead of doing their jobs morning. was coming right back. Our world is facing some big challenges, Chuck Jawed breaks them down a deep dive into a new topic. Instead of covering all the big stories of one single subject, impacting american politics exploring and explaining the critical issues that affect our future made, the press reports, All the pursuit of season two are now available on demand on be gone, I've, known and environment and admired men and women in the Senate, who played much more than a small role in our history. True statesmen, giants of american Politics dolphin had very serious disagreements about how best to serve the knife.

No interest, but they need. However, sharp and heartfelt their disputes were keen their ambitions. They had an obligation to work furtively to ensure the Senate discharged its cause. Situational responsibilities, effectively the most Weird members of this institution accepted them firstly of compromise in order to make incremental Russia, sobbing America's problems and they're from adversaries. That was late Republican, Senator John Mccain speaking on the second floor and twenty seventeen call, on his colleagues to trust one another and return to regular order, our next scarce, sites. That moment, then, is new these four Newsweek asking why our my colleagues in Congress, throwing flames instead of doing

air jobs to question were all asking joining us now democratic vice chair of the congressional problem, solvers carcass. Congressmen, Tom Swazi of New York congressmen Thank you very much for being on the show today it. What do you You can say or do to solve this problem, which seems to be deeply rooted within the Republican Party We know it's it's a lot of hard work that we have to do and it sits these problems on both parties to mean people are being pulled to there. Extremes because too many of us are worried about our primaries in feeding our base instead of worrying about the general election or being amplified a social media, especially as some of the breakers Tom Friedman Room for Internet the makers in the breakers? Will the breakers or using social media to pause farther apart a sum some of our cable news, shows or point one thing or the other and most

turning now to about our foreign adversaries in trying to so civil unrest, get us to all hate each other and be against each other and in it probably in extremes. It is constantly work at building relationships and seeing that weak Disagree with are appalling, but we all contempt. You know congressmen you bring up. It's such a great point to bring up, especially after Joe Biden Summit with Vladimir Putin that our adversaries, globally, be Russia or China or other countries in North Korea that that that right now see themselves, as our rivals love to see us

divided love to see us fighting each other and we're really playing into their own hands. When we do that, you you, you are part of a problem. Solvers caucus make it talked about a problem with the Republican Party, but there actually are republican members in that problem. Solvers. August talk about your relationships with them and what you all together are trying to do to move. The legislation forward, that's by partisan and for the good of this country. Well, let's let everybody now. First the problem: solvers, Caucasus, twenty nine Democrats, twenty nine Republicans! We need on a regular basis, you know, or three times a week, find common ground with each other and the ILO personal relationships with the members of the court has felt the Democrats and republicans- and today There are things that we disagree upon how we ve tried, build trust over the past several years to understand that why this

Review based upon you know how I was brought up based about what might districts life is to my politics. Are, I know you and I come from a ban you know you you really want to do is good for the country working right now on a whole host of different things. To try and bring together, whether its on infrastructure, whether its on police reform, every day were working on different issues to try and find common ground with each other countries it's really guy says you point out in the peace the reward system in politics these days in the incentives are for that kind of extremism. That gets you attention that gets you on a perhaps primetime cable news show that gets you Raising I'm thinking, for example, of care Mccarthy, going into an oval office. Meeting coming out and having his campaign send out a message that said, I just met with the radical left as president. We need your help to defeat M, etc, etc. So, have you break that cycle?

You break the cycle of them stream? I am the more fire You know that I can light the more gas I can put on the flames. The more money I raise, the higher my profile becomes, the more power I hold a big part of it is just to find that the problem exists and why they exist. As you just said, that the more extreme you are, the more online donations you get them. Others ball downward donations, that more invitations you get on to primetime, cable, more rapid! You are the more followers you'll get on twitter. the Americans are really just you know. I can't you get along catch. You work together can solve problems, but More and more of this hyperbole and extremism gets that big chief, the people in the middle that fifty or sixty percent of Americans to be politically disengaged and politically disenchanted So we need you just keep on pointing it out. We need to understand that social media and the media being

fractures. It isn't just feeding different messages to different groups of peat, Paul, is relatively new phenomena. I'm goes on. You need to look at the holding of different platforms. more accountable for promoting Miss information and this information we need hold our adversaries responsible with sanctions for in this information and missed formation and the most What they need is with its environment, because of so many people are disenchanted is to get the people more involved. The people dont want the nuts. They don't want the extremism if they we can encourage them to show up at the primaries. Hang it more than ten percent of the people are fifty percent people to vote in the primaries. Then politicians will have the not were robot focusing on just the rabbit base at the focus on the p.

so the more people we get involved in democracy. The more effective democracy is when Tom Swazi. Thank you so much for being on the show this Friday morning and still lag senator mentions voting rights. Compromise is getting some I partisan interests and top Republicans aren't having it plus. courage enough to aid in the fight against corona virus, though European Union has agreed to lift a travel ban on Americans that has been in place since early twenty twenty four story and much more morning Joe is coming right. Back gas