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2021-07-16 | 🔗

Public health officials will reinstate an indoor mask mandate for residents of the most populous county in the nation as coronavirus cases rise just one month after the state reopened its economy.

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Today's episode has brought you buy Stillwater from focus features, starring, Matt, Damon and directed by Tom Mccarthy. Only in theatres July thirtieth still, water is the most powerful motion picture of the summer. Matt Damon Spill Baker, a blue collar worker from Oklahoma, who must travel to mercy. France to exonerate his strange daughter from a murder charge secrets, run deep Stillwater in theatres July thirtieth. On a personal note,. its painful for me to know that near every death we are seeing now from covert nineteen, could have been prevented I see that as someone who is lost, ten family members to cope with, Eighteen, who wishes each and every day that they had had the up trinity to get vaccinated over
last many months we ve learned a lot about covert nineteen, including how to stop at yet the virus is rearing up again in dangerous ways as vaccinations lag and DIS information spreads its a day first combination that will discuss this morning with the: U S, surgeon general, who would you just heard their plus Go live two Mississippi we're health officials are warning of a surge in the delta variant, its landed several children in the I see you some on life support also an exclusive excerpt from that bombshell book by a pair of renowned wash imposed reporters how? EL bar reportedly stunned Donald Trump, to silence. Think about that with his warning about the twenty twenty election we'll get to that just ahead, plus Angela Merkel pays her final visage of the White House, as
Manys chancellor will talk about her meeting with President Biden, which, unlike a summit with Bush, forty three didn't include areas spontaneous shoulder rubs surprised about that. All that much more on this Friday, July's sixteenth, will aid that Bush. Merkel, shoulder rub, never gets old. It never gets hold a little shoulder rub diplomacy from forty third present, the United States will talk much more, Angela Merkel in a moment, but we do begin with the growing fears of a new covert wave as cases climb, vaccination rates plateau Now the nations largest county, LOS Angeles, is turning back the pandemic, issuing a new in nor mask mandate, and we see news correspondent, Miguel, Armagh Air- has the latest Lausanne the nations largest county, taking a step back, requiring masks indoors even for the vaccinated, effective Sunday impact in ten million people here and breaking
with CBC guidance, it's a clear signal. Concern is growing over the highly contagious delta very meantime for some the forty eight million children under twelve and their parents who were hoping to get them vaccinated? This fall a longer wait, the FDA, it will now review several additional months of safety data, meaning a vaccine for kids won't likely be available early next year. It makes it a very stressful time to be apparent. An educator and a child at all school should really have very strong contingency plans. What are the metrics, by which we would go back to virtual learning? What will we do to keep children and staff safe, while more than four million children have contracted covert, less than two percent have been hospitalized and only a small fraction have died.
But now our nation is bracing for a tidal wave of new infections, as experts fear, a new flood of covert cases is just beginning to grip. The country we have exceeded last year's king, while outbreaks were expected and on vaccinated pocket divination. Ninety eight million are still not inoculated. Forty states are in a rise in infections, at Yankee, stadium, positive covert task force, the game against the Red Sox to be postponed, the delta variant, a serious risk find those pockets in each community where people aren't vaccinated and it's gonna do a lot of damage that damage being done and for the on vat. And aided, including the youngest Americans. The worse may still be the calm Miguel Thou Maguire, NBC News. We one out CDC director Doktor were shall will Linsky reiterated yesterday. Her agency is not recommending people who are fully vaccinated where mass
Let's bring in one of the experts we saw in Miguel Report physician and fellow at the Brookings institution, Doktor convened a Patel she's, a former Obama Whitehouse Health policy director. and an MSNBC medical contributor, Doktor Mattel, it's going to see this morning. This is- wrenching its frustrating. Obviously, given all we ve been through all the work that has gone in to get us to this place, how do we change this trajectory? We appear to be on right now. You have really one word vaccination. I think that it incredibly clear that vaccines Have our effective and what we're trying to do. I won't even call it hurt immunity, confusing to say that what we are trying to do is just reach a gull where the majority of people at a hundred percent, because we are going to have kids and people who can get vaccines for different reasons, but where the majority of people are vaccinated and it protects the UN backs unaided. This is a simple cut of epidemiology public health when I want shorter,
that will it we're going to continue to see these rolling waves. Rather country in various pockets, larger number in some areas, but don't think that, just because you live in a part of Connecticut Vermont or another area, the country, Southern California, where, if you have an area that pilot vaccinated, that the people who are not vaccinated are still not with that double. Let me say it another way. Everybody is vulnerable at some point and I will just take it different with those did. He see director, obviously she's much more active in the data than I am, but there is no harm in talking about highly risky, studying the high risk that ain't like indoors, where multiple people who are not vaccinated might gather with vaccinated people and just having everyone follow the same rules, because what we're seeing right now Willie is that people aren't doing it were and where the vertical trusting everyone and I dont their reason to do that to you
Doktor Patel, that LOS Angeles County is kind of a leading indicator aware places across the country Maybe headed. We know about the states with low vaccination rates, many them across the south, but you mentioned the state They ve done well in terms of vaccination, Connecticut. The Northeast New York Massachusetts main up in up in through the New England area are those places susceptible now to roll back in terms of the kind of restrictions we might see, they are an end
we just say even more than once angels county. By way, I really do praise the public health officials. There. You stick in their necks out on the line for not popular people these days, but I would say we can look to other countries we can with Israel. We looked at the heart of what the UK has had to do ignore what the poorest Johnson his bed, but look at local public health officials. The Ministry of health officials are doing on the ground there, Australia, other parts of the EU. They are our kind of what we would call canaries in the coal mine. They have put back in indoor masks and simply for this reason, vaccines do protective. They protect us from possible station in death, as we have said, on vaccinated people with a variant Willie? That is normal, that we don't understand. That is highly transmissible, highly infectious minute to give it to each other. What is the heart when you're with strangers, to wear it
Sk Indoors, especially in close contact setting. Why are we taking a risk that we don't need a cake when we have a very simple preventive measure for now and shall we get more people vaccinated and that really, mine, so Doktor Patel, given what you just said and the simplicity of bed, because science is about facts, but health is about communication and about helping a population understand what's best for them To live long, healthy lives. What is happening here? What is predominant reason that people are not getting vaccinated. Where do you hearing yeah, I'm a primary Europe is
and so I am hearing a lot of different things, including large sources of misinformation. I think that's why you're talking to the surgeon general number, one people have that the amount of misinformation has outweighed the factual defiant. I may be the only person in a fifteen minute visit telling people about what the fact went on in the data and the journals tell us, but I've that ninety nine point: nine percent of people's lives dominated by Facebook, what's up groups and commonly cut him now. The myths unfortunately seem like facts that this interferes with your dna, that it affects you fertility that it can affect future pregnancies that the government rushed this, and this is a conspiracy, the help pharmaceutical company. I've heard it all. I don't think, there's one piece of misinformation I haven't heard, including you know that this causes you to become magnetic and what I ve
and make our among? You can't shame them, you cannot blame them. You have to actually kind of certain empathize and say yeah. You know I too thought there might be kind of fast and here's. What I ve learned in here is why my twenty eight year old, latina patient did want this vaccine because she saw her sister get hospitalized and become dependent on oxygen at her age. So I think it's a very different honestly me get what we had to do ten years ago to fight and information about the affordable care about access to healthcare such as its different misinformation, indifferent forms, but Why did I multiple media channels and multiple opportunities, while absolutely important, not to shame or blame the people who have been misinformed? That would be wrong, but the leader especially the Republicans and those who final Donald Trump and Donald himself, choose to be negligent. Choosing
some form people, maybe even- media is choosing to have hosts that misinform people that is choosing to be negligent. That is, malpractice and that is on them, and it will be what happens in this country on here suborning- and this is just so chilling- the warning that the? U S surgeon general Doktor Feedback morphine issued about misinformation when it comes to Kovac nineteen doktor Mirth, released. A surgeon generals advisory yesterday declare the rise of misinformation online and urgent threat. Calling on social media companies to take action. Today we live in a world where misinformation poses an eminent. An insidious threat to our nations. Have modern technology companies have enabled information to poison our information environment with little it an ability to their users gave a loud p who intentionally spread misinformation. What we call this information,
to had extraordinary reach the design product features such as like buttons there were us for sharing emotionally charged content, not accurate content. they are algorithms tend to give us more what we click on going deeper and deeper into a wealth of misinformation, and we put as we played at the very top it worth repeating from the surgeon general. Nearly every death from covert nineteen that we're saying now could have been prevented. Think about that at that same briefing, Whitehouse, press secretary, socket said that a large amount of misinformation is being spread by a relative small number of people there's about twelve people who are producing sixty five percent of anti vaccine misinformation on social media platforms. All of them remain active on Facebook, by some even being bans on other platforms, including face, but ones that Facebook owns.
Following those remarks, Facebook put out a statement rating, we ve partnered, with government experts, tell authorities and researchers to take aggressive action against this information about covered, maintaining vaccines to protect public health. So far, we ve moved more than eighteen million pieces of covert information removed, accounts that repeatedly these rules and connected more than two billion people to reliable information about covered. You really taking credit, Facebook, you're, you're taking credit. You think you saved lives, Because the bottom line is as long as you are carrying channeling and pushing misinformation, that's taking lives, not saving lives, they surgeon general will be our guest a bit later in the morning. Well, it's just so frustrating that these companies, that really fire hoses about information and people who are following Trump and
leaders in Washington who refuse to about a trump who are really living misinformation and using Facebook and social media and anywhere that will listen to spread disinformation. There are a million words I can thing for I, but at this point its fatal, it's killing people. Yeah you're, absolutely right, it is its its deadly, what's happening right now, of course, the sea. the all this disinformation. This bad information were planted a long time ago, long before the last year and a half around corona virus. But now seeing the rotten fruit and it's it's costing lives Doktor Patel. It does feel like We ve had all the trusted partners and people like you and others have worked so hard to get the message out. Two communities that have been vaccinated. It feels like we ve had a ceiling if that's true and if we may be changed the numbers on the margin and they go up a little, but not enough to get its where we to be what happens in the next
months the next year with corona virus in this country. What does it look like to you? You have really lucky. I think, you're asking the critical question that all health officials are and I'll say, number one. I hope there will be an uptake and vaccinations and specialist skills open the news that we're not gonna have children's but the children's vaccine. option had of in the near future should give many adults even those were completely sceptical. At least some pause and I'm hoping swill officials kind of encourage adults to get vaccinated. So that's one hopeful, peace, number two. I do think employers you for many at large importers. They that and big one small and medium sized ones they they want to bring in points that can, by labour day little bit more fully in some kind of enforce. They are gone, have a heavier hand for having their workforce vaccinated Willie, whether that be brew require men through mandate or to say that if you,
home and you are not vaccinated. We are going to ask you to do all of the following precaution and, quite frankly, we do this in healthcare. We make it so onerous that it really is easier to try to get vaccinated. Full approval of those vaccines for adults will certainly hopefully help that. I think the third thing is getting a world back then I cannot stress enough, you look at other countries, Indonesia, where it is literally spirally, not Troll India, where they really never recovered from the deadly second wave. South America We see the land a variant and Peru responsible for about ninety percent of the infection Willie. Perhaps the best thing we can do is to say all those seems we're not going to use we're going to help to be part of a global. Had a vaccine push the president has expressed this but we can't do in soon enough, so the next year is going to look like these. Just literally just like heatwaves, Willie Rolling heatwaves across the country back and forth, so people are either vaccinated or infected.
just incredible doktor conveyed a Battelle. Thank you. So much and coming up with a lot more on this report giving sign of Mississippi Hospital where there are children on life, support going into a hospital, Arkansas bottom line. This thing is real: it's coming back in these United States of America? We have a pandemic among the on vaccination and we'll have a look We're coming up turning out of politics, we, more this morning from the upcoming book by Washington, Post reporters Carol, Leonnig and Philip Rucker Entitled, I alone can fix it. Donald Trump words. This latest excerpt recounts former President Donald Trump reactions to the January sixth capital attack, reading from the book clout early on January, six Trump called Pence, Who is spending the morning at his naval observatory residents before having to the capital pence again explained the legal limits on his authority, as vice president and said he planned to perform
his ceremonial duty, as prescribed by the constitution, but Trump showed him no mercy. You don't have the courage to make a hard decision. He told pen at two hundred and ten p dot m. The first rioter enter the capital by breaking a window and climbing inside a stream of Trump warriors followed him at the White House. Trump was back in his private dining room, watching everything unfold on television including dance casino and cayley Makin popped in and out, the president was riveted. His supporters had heated his. call to March on the capital with pride and boldness for Trump. There was no more beautiful sight and thousands of the energetic people waving trump flags wearing.
red mega caps and fighting to keep him in power. He thought this is cool. He was happy, recalled one aid who was with Trump that afternoon then, when it turned violent, he thought oh crap, as rioters Murat it through the capital. It was clear whom they were looking for some shouted MIKE Pence Trump didn't exactly throw them off of hunt at two hundred and twenty four p dot m the president tweeted, my pens didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution. Back at the White House, Keith Kellogg, the vice presidents, national security adviser, was worried about pensive safety and went to find Trump is MIKE. Ok, the President asked him. The secret service was as him under control, Kellogg told Trump Karen is there with the daughter, o Trump asked they're going to stay there.
How this thing get sorted out, Catholics, Kellogg said Trot, said nothing more. He didn't express any hope that pence was ok. He didn't try to call the vice president to check on. He just stayed in the dining room watching television we should mention. This account has not been independently confirmed by NBC News. springing NBC News and Emerson BC, national affairs, analyze, toast and executive producer of show times the circus and host the Helen High water podcast from the recount John Harmon, near times reporter and MSNBC National Security analysed. Michael Schmidt and Casey Hunt joins us as well, Casey. We heard your announcement this morning, I've known about it. I'm practicing some radical acceptance right now and it is not working. I didn't we on this journey, and so it's a dialectical. I can accept it really proud of you. So
talk more about this later MIKE Ocean and John Harmon home and I'll go to you? First, we can all talk to K C a little bit more about this, but human. The quotes from the book an end and the lack any care for his vice president. It starts right there. What are your reactions? Well hey good morning Mika. You know it's been a really this a bit o up in this period, the last week Dar too, and we started to see these inside accounts. This is the one that work focusing on this morning. Rucker an Carolina is just just last couple. Provided you know an incredible amount of fodder, all of it in some sense, confirming and and make vivid in making real a lot of things that were, though, that we all kind of felt in
gotcha. We knew through some reporting em. We saw some contemporaneous reporting, but these guys are gone so deep now in two really kind of pudding. Flesh on the bones to just how not just how what a perilous it was for the country and just how dangerous Donald Trump, because those are the big heads here it seems to me what are you talking about the reporting from the same book yesterday about about about the children? The joint chiefs concerns about Reichstag moment and now that these that, once we note, though the extra this morning, you know staggering Mika has trumps total lack of care. For me pants and again we sort of new he was used. Tweeting attack Hence at the moment, when Pence was in physical mortal danger. We talk about this on the show time or or shortly thereafter, but almost a stunning in this in this excerpt, is another fact that we base new, but really for car comes to glaringly riches. Where is Donald Trump Commander in chief, whereas
you're in the residence on the phone talking to military leaders, talk National Guard talking to anyone who, where he could be of assistance and try to quell this violent. This violence as it was unfolding instead he's passive. and both on some levels, we see enjoying this. The sight of his of is means acting was what he would consider strength, other side kind of acting with total human disregard for is completely loyal. Vice president for four years, but just so completely disengage aged from the most fundamental constitutional obligation that he had at still with that point for another sixty is which was you know, to protect the United States of America his enemies for domestic. Here, the country that the capital was under siege, enemies or domestic and Donald Trump is doing nothing, nothing if anything, making the situation worse.
All right, John mention part of the book that we told you about yesterday of joint chief chairman Mark millions concerns about a possible coup by former prison, tromp and his allies have for the twenty twenty election yesterday Trump put out a statement in response to those revelations. Writing quote an ever threatened or spoke about to anyone a coup of our government. so ridiculous. Sorry to inform you, but an election is my form of coup and if I was, To do a co Y know people? I would want to do it with its general Mark Milly, Michael Schmidt. Here we go again at the same time. This is a really really dangerous moment for our country, that there isn't uniform just absolute agreement that was a man in charge who inside
riot against our. U S capital our constitution, our democracy in process. How much does this match a lot of the reporting that you ve been doing in those extra classic trump response there as a way of taking a shot Millie and also sort of throwing self into this discussion about. Coup in the way that he did it is, you know, remind flashbacks as a sort of the trunk tweets look. All these accounts are really stark and really scary, because we saw all of us how close we came to the edge and what that insurrection was and how that was such a manifestation of everything that dog had done over for years. What I would I keep on finding that I think we sometimes forget her or MRS there
a lot of these people, who you know themselves in dangerous places. Like my pen sore, you know, others were people that for years had been around Donald Trump and knew about his possibilities? They were enablers, Donald Trump. My pants help, Donald Trump out of the Mahler investigation, my pants Sidra silently many times over? The four There's that Donald Trump was president and it didn't say much and didn't do much to hold the president accountable. You know there's accounts of Bill bar that have about. You know different things it bill bar did or said there was no greater enabler of Donald Trump then go bar. So I understand importance that these individuals played in the historic moments after the election and how the country who is on its edge. But these were folks that works.
Oh they're after four years and Donald Trump being President, these were people Had seen the President act up close yes, some of them thought they needed to be there to stop Trump from party himself. then hurting the country, and I understand the unusualness of that phenomena, but You know at the same time, you know like many of us, were surprised by downturns behaviour after the election Casey right in the middle of this week, when we're getting these breathtaking excerpts from paralytic unfilled, rockers book about what have leading up to January sets what happened on that day in what happened afterward. You would think it might give some weakens, pause and yet be house republican, later Kevin maker, the yesterday was at bed minster, present trumps golfing meeting with kissing the ring. Even were hearing these stories and even as just on Sunday, at sea pack, former president Trump said
we saw in those images was a group of patriots that they were peace. and in his words on January, six love was in the air, so full denial from Donald Trump full denial from Republicans and even the leadership of the Republican Party still going to make sure they still have Donald Trump in their pocket. Yeah, it's it's can t it continues. be stunning Willie for sure and of course, while the official accounts of the meeting yesterday between Mccarthy and Trump say that they didn't about selections for the January Sixth special committee. That's going Look into this. We know that my car has been involved in the decision making process there and there's been this sense on me But under no circumstances is he going to select those people without making sure that the former president is on board with what he does here? And you know it would just to underscore a couple:
things mean first of all, we ve learned so much from these accounts, but there is also a lot that we don't know because we have reporting contemporaneous reporting from that day about four all the call that we know occurred between the President and Kevin Mccarthy there. There are a lot of questions about what was said there. Who else was calling President. I know Democrats are very interested in getting copies of the president's phone records. Whether that's gonna be possible is an entirely different question Democrats going to meet with the Department of Justice, which of course has been investigating the riot itself to see what kind of evidence they can get their hands on mental. Tell us a lot about that day and just a circle back to my pants
any as he's in the capital, and there is eventually an angry phone call from parents to the White House, he's huddled in this room and the only person that can call off these people is the former President Donald Trump and one of the most evocative pieces of evidence we have for this. As I was, I didn't interview with a capital police officer who was in one of those doorways who was injured by the mob, had to take several weeks of work, and he said he was confirmed as he was confronting these rioters, who are trying to push passed him and get into the capital he said come on like you have to listen to me, and they said back to him we're here, because President Trump told us to be here he's the only one we listened to it. We don't listen to the police. We don't listen to long, for when we listen to President tromp. That's why we're here, man, that that shows you the importance of what Trump himself was going to say and do on that day? That's why the tweet that he sent out see
so half hearted and people were so disappointed by it because he was again the only one that had the power to actually say. Okay, I wanna keep my pants and all these other people safe. So that's what the stakes were so This really shows what cases analysis shows us is the need for robust hearings. looking into every aspect of this, because I want to focus on some Casey said tramping the only person who could have really called this off John Harmon, it's too like so many of those people who were there, and so many people across Amerika Trump, is the only person who could inspire them to get the vaccine, and yet does and their therein lies. The called likeness of the trunk following that is such a day or to our democracy. It's not an exaggeration. This is how called leaders act
and an act will go back to some really says. I'm gonna to answer that question than ass. Much medical, going out this by you know what I have said that there are like the Republican Party and Donald Trump or in full denial about what happened on January sex, but he cited something that is much worse, and this goes to the cop later point. You know what trouble now doing something much much more insidious and much more dangerous than denial. It was bad enough tromp and others were saying that this was just real happy revellers and it was an atmosphere of a picnic and they were just like normal capital. Visitors, like China, member whole. What happened on you, you're a sex, even though we all saw it with our own eyes, even though we all can watch the thirty minute reconstruction that MIKE's colleagues, times did in video. We all this all out there right now, you're the Republican Party collectively led by Trump try to whitewash that are not true. Whitewash anymore. Tromp is now to turn this into a glorious moment of patriotism. He's now
do a full orwellian inversion and behold. The whole thing up now: try it actually Babbitt into a martyr, is another part of that that and that is going in a much more. I mean it's bad. I care that the memory when you stage is incredibly dangerous to the country when you got tens of millions of of Republicans who believe the electrodes legitimate, but to try to characterize this as a glorious moment. A righteous moment, is a ten times worse, and it leads me MIKE too to this question right because it can it connects up to this. the thing which is that this men in that it be after the election last, let from November seventh all the way through to January. Sixth, you know, if you had a view, this programme and other places when people would express view that we were worried about what our Trump might be doing at the Pentagon. With his personnel changes, was he going to try it the military for some political purpose was to try to hold on to power
If you had said the word coup, and on morning Joe, the entire Republican, it would come down in your head and say you are a lunatic trumped arrangements. syndrome, driven maniac, whose fantasy icing paranoid? All of that right now we have learned that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs was not just, contemplating the possibility of a coup? Donald Trump seizing trying to disease control, the military for his personal or political ends. To try to extend his time in office. He was not just thinking those things he was taking action daily basis on the presumption that that was we're, trumpets, headed, and I guess that the question I have to ask is it like it? Is it's crazy ass now. Will you have not because of any shame It is amazing to me that in this moment as Mark Milly, is revealed as having What these things done, the things he did along with with my pop hail and others it real time that there is
no a collective institutional grappling, With that reality by republicans, do you know what will the is there not ever going to be a moment where someone on the republic inside looks up it says yeah, you know what we were wrong. and all of you who were most alarmed were in fact right? I don't think so. I especially because this were pointing out. The republican party has continued to follow the trend in this direction. There has in any introspection and those people who have wanted to look back the loose Chinese the world have been ridiculed in exile, then shunned by the part in the party is just continue to move in that trunk direction, even if from his seen his own approval rating in his own popularity, to wane and there should have been a disconnect there. in terms of you know, why is it that the Republican Party is continuing to follow him? Even if, if trumps
Popularity already is falling off and I dont know if there will ever be anything that sort of changes the minds of this part of this bed rock part of the Republican Party list by leader, Mccarthy, about how they view trump. Obviously, Mccarthy still sees him as sort of a gatekeeper they have followed what he wants it in regards to this this panel, this special committee that has been appointed to look at the events. You know it seems like they there they die You don't want to go along with it. They may want to put people on the panel that are going to be obstructionist the entire thing, and I think that the one thing they did it step back from all that, whether it was the president plotting coups. more. The president's attempts to undermine the election to the presidency I say you now throw sand in the gears of investigations is that the president was very
handed in a lot of what he did. The present I knew how to it out the megaphone into yell and say things, but when it came to being attacked, Titian and actually down in plodding the two or truly obstructing just ass. He was. He was only so skilled in that prevented him from from doing even more damage our Michael met. Thank you so much for your reporting this morning and coming one morning Joe to quote our dear friend former senator and current President Joe Biden. This is about f. Indeed, one of the biggest deafened deal that's been passed in state and decades centre. majority leader, Chucks humor celebrates the its expanded child tax credit and sets up a new deadline for an infrastructure deal also this morning,
there are strong wheelchairs and other equipment in the hallways, because there's just no place us to put them Every single room in this hospital is for every single one, except for this one when on brie and someone here from the are any minute now know that not for months and months ago, that's from yesterday, as we mention corona virus cases are on the rise. Nbc gave you. Terrorists has a look at one hospital in Arkansas, where doctors are struggling to keep up with the surge in patients you're watching morning. Job will be right back, Our world is seeing some big challenges, Chuck Dodd breaks them down
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working extra hours? This is one of four covert units at the University of Arkansas, for medical science is nurse Mary Alice Loose is exhausted patients are definitely seeker like we see really really sick patience and younger ones. Twenty to forty years old, as well as pregnant women Overall Arkansas, has seen a one hundred thirty percent jumping cases over the last. Weeks their store, wheelchairs and other equipment in the hallways, because there's just no place cells to put them Every single room in this hospital is for every single one, except for this one. I plan on brain in someone here from the yard any minute. Now, I'm very worried about back to school very concerned about continuing strain on our health care system. How much is it frustrate you that vaccination issue has become a little says: it's it's it's disheart
and one of the hospitals vaccine clinics near by six hundred doses, are available each day. Just nineteen people made appointments. The overall vaccination rate here is only about thirty five percent. Were you skeptical of getting vaccine? Yes, why? That is it was? It was not proven, Tate as he and his wife did not get the shot in May. The couple in four of their five kids tested positive for Covin. Tate was hospitalized so with his wife. This gonna turn our world upside down the text at each other from separate rooms until she was placed on ventilator all the more terrifying because she was pregnant with ass. The baby in at some point or oxygen adjust got to allow his wife survived and is now in rehab to him. Covert is far from over. I want the people here my story, so maybe they will think twice about not get vaccinated, gave Gutierrez report.
for its there from Arkansas. We move east to Mississippi the state with one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country and we're hospital nations around the rights doctors, their say vaccines are available, but they too are struggling. misinformation. Sometimes I feel like Voices of science and medicine are drowned out by the you know: facebook experts, but there there are many voices out. They are saying this is the right thing to do. This is what we need to the vaccine is safe, but but sometimes I feel like round number. There has been a shot. increase in children. Hospitalized was severe cases more than half a dozen children. Are the icy you because of the virus in the state of Mississippi two of them had to be put on a ventilate Meta again. There's no mystery here, vaccinations the lowest rates. Tied are Mississippi in Arkansas, the two states we just talked about hovering around thirty three to thirty,
five percent Alabama also in that ranges, Doktor Patel Disease can't be any more clear about it. If people get vaccinated, we avoid seems like the ones we just showed its surgeons, but solely among the on vaccination and the patients, as we just heard, or younger sicker and virtue they all on vaccinated Let us now. As the rapporteur who spoke to the doctor, we just heard from NBC News Course an Ellison barber. She's live at the states. Only children's hospital in Jackson Miss City Ellison. What can you tell us specifically about children who have gotten verily l from covert gaming when, when we're talking about children, and when you're looking at numbers in general in this state on the surface, they might not seem particular Hi right there were five hundred and fifty seven new confirmed cases of covert nineteen in Mississippi. Yesterday, but it is the rate that
arising. That is really concerning when you look further at the numbers hospitalizations in this state because of covert nineteen have steadily increased since the beginning. This month and in the last week and a half alone covert patients, I see use. That number has nearly doubled when you look specifically at children, Mississippi's top help official had talked about in and put out these numbers earlier in the week warning people, but the delta very, which makes up about eighty percent of their cases here, is really serious and impacting children right now and the reason why they're putting out that number is because when you look at the amount of people who are hospital wise because good. Nineteen children are making up a staggering percentage of it compared to where they were last year. That number seven showed
in I see used because of covert nineteen statewide. That means that children currently make up seventy percent of the corporate patients hospitalized in intensive care unit because of covert nineteen. When I spoke the doctors at this hospital, they have five children here right now, they told me that that percent increase is what's really troubling, because that is not the high percentage as high a percentage is higher, rather a percentage right now of children hospitalized because of coordinating the saw at their peak in the summer last year. Guys know our recognise. People don't want to be told what to do, We also as a society are told what to do for a lot of things that we pay taxes. We have to vaccines. Before we go to school. We have to get card so there are a lot of things that were is to doing because we know we have to do and
This to me is more about responsibility for society, waste really saying: complications of covered nineteen and very critical children with covert nineteen and very critical young adults in light teens who covered nineteen and people who have died, he would have been well if they had not got unanticipated preventable disease with his back vaccine an l, a sentiment. These are great interviews and it's really framing the point that a lot of people have public health experts are trying to make at this point. We ve been doing back scenes for seventy years, and I just wonder what are you hearing about? What's behind this severe I didn't see hesitancy that is leading to a pandemic among the unbalanced stated in this country. You know I've spoken in the last couple of weeks to people who are on vat.
Needed in Mississippi and also in Alabama, actually went in Alabama to the county. That is the least vaccinated in the state and the rain have answers. We heard for why people weren't getting vaccinated range from outright toucans outright conspiracy theories to scepticism. What here, what I keep hearing from doctors, particularly in this state, is that they re we do feel like an you heard, Doktor Woodworth, say at the beginning of this segment that they are competing against Facebook Post and they can't really match that rate as much as they try of misinformation and then a lot of people, for whatever reason choosing to rely on things they see on Facebook instead of their doctors here and one of the things one of the doctors at this hospital told me that it's so frustrating because people trust them to give advice, for their children to tell them what other vaccines to get to treat cancer. To save lives constantly, but on this, for whatever reason,
They are choosing to trust Facebook post instead of the doctors here who are consistently saying need you to get back to me that, in order to save lives in order to keep our hospitals ETA capacity level, where we can treat anything that people might need careful and they keep running into all in this state again and again- and I ask that my son is There- something a federal government could be doing here to help morning need more from the state, and they said the fate. The issue here is that vaccines are widely available. Anyone can get them anywhere in this state if they want to, but people are not doing it, and so they are literally begging people to do so and do something about this now, because what the delta variant they say right now we're in a position where the vaccines actually deal with that variant, but the more it spreads the more variants we'll get in the vaccines we have right now they might not work down the road. Got my Oddy and MRS Ellison Barbara live in Mississippi. Thank you so much and we will speak with the. U S. Surgeon general, just ahead mornings
coming right back our Mississippi in Sweden, live here. We love this state. Our families are here. They are saying please get vaccinated and it is like we are yelling into wait. They trust us for so many things, but there is just this big disconnect and one spot around the back saying that that to me I cannot reconcile rational thought with that. This does not mean, as this simple question, having seen the one and ask what matters to them, and why, let's be clear, it is about work. The angle, snide here and Emerson Bc Special coming question afforded specifically, are you going to me three year process care about
would you fund, if not now, when and if not us, repress, then who, What you discovered doesn't match your expectations can in fact Jack this forest. Keep asking yourself hard questions, confident not be tough on the answers. It's just not true fever facts over conspiracy. What should american citizens know relying on experts not influence? They are now going to debate it again and vote again. Entrust standards over here said: at MSNBC This is what we do in this, Yeah welcome back loins, millions of parents are receiving their first monthly check from the government President Bush hailing the one near expanded child tax credit as a major step towards ending child poverty in America. Here's enemies, new Chief Whitehouse, correspondent, Peter Alexander, badly, made
relief for Social Dempsey in Arkansas, the single mother of three, including a nine year old daughter, Zoe, was laid while she was hospitalized with covert this spring? What is that money mean to you and your family? It means alights, I've, always h, paycheck to pay check, and so I will continue to be helpful and keep us going. The child tax for the payments begin showing up in checking account today up to three hundred dollars a month for each child. Five and under two hundred fifty two there's each month for children sixty. seventeen, it applies to, single parents earning as much as one hundred twelve thousand dollars a year and couples making up to one hundred fifty thousand families that don't make to pay taxes can register to receive their check. This is the right thing to do and to a smart thing to do. The new programme expands on the existing child tax credit and was added as part of the covert relief package earlier this year, some republic, to criticise the programme as welfare, because it removes work requirements to receive
the money saw she says she hopes they make a one year programme permanent it we ve, got billionaires dying to space and that we so that people down here trying to make ends meet. all right gazing on. I want to ask you about these payments attacks credit, as it's called compared to everything else. That Democrats are trying to push through at this point. How is it working with them in a bipartisan efforts that are under way and are Democrats and Republicans able to Greeted disagree on some of these measures, while meagre what's different about this as its credit, yes, but it's being sent advance. So, instead of being another line, item on, you know, you're giant tax return it up as money in people's bank accounts right now, and that's a really important difference because
people are actually get to see it and understand something about these complicated policy questions that were always talking about, and this has been something that Republicans and Democrats have in the past, been willing to agree on a lot of republican support, an expanded child tax credit but, of course, actually making this that happens again and again is gonna, be tricky and rapporteur for the Wash impose Eugene Scott joins us now, and Eugene, let me bring you in on this, because this is gonna, be a key part of what the Democrats going to try to do in their major reconciliation plan. They want to make to extend the child tax credit and make it work in this area. The way it is really hard to see any way in which this is not just a pure political win. actually for a white house that you know campaigned on this kind of Paul, see, change and is now going to likely see potentially benefits from those in and in swing voters that they're gonna need to hang on to intimate terms, and that, of course, is focusing on the politics, not even
policy which is gonna help, so many families and this is going to be popular because, as you have noted, before, they're gonna be people receiving these tax credits, but one both sides of the hour. The reality is that poverty and eliminating it for children is something is when some to voters, regardless of their political persuasion, and I was interviewing educators yesterday who were talking about the violence. Grace and try to make a strong correlation between these me. Child hunger and students abilities to perform academically and there's a lot of attention on how well students are going to be this, for, as so many schools attempted back to normal, and so just to the mental health challenges adjusting to the poverty challenges, adjusting to chow hug all of these things that debate an administration and say that they are trying to pay attention to with the hope of winning support from people across the political spectrum
how many as we talk about all this massive legislation, we're just casually throwing around trillion dollar figures, and we talk about infrastructure. Three and a half trillion ad in the Bible in value get up over four trillion dollars Voting rights and Joe Action is at the centre of it and again talk about whether or not the filibusters gonna stay in place he's been clear, as has been Senator Cinema of his. They don't want to move the filibuster that I want to limit the filibuster, which leaves Democrats wondering how they get all this. Through without reconciliation, at least on the budget stuff yards sprawling thing Willie and you know, there's always have been. Some indication mentions part that maybe that are going to get where the filibuster there's no question about that. But is there some potential openness to filibuster reform? Bring back the talking filibuster, those are all think people talk about, but I think that, like the theme of the macro picture here is just too you know you that that the massive the sweeping ambition, Joe Biden,
We think ambition of Democrats who see a lot of need out in the country also see an opportunity to do. You have to have you Control, however mere our narrow. The fifty fifty cent at the very small majority in the house very limited amount of time to have it gonna be headed, intimate midterm campaigning, just a few from now. So it's like you're, looking basically down that path. Here, you got a few months now and the end of this year in early next year to do to try to do all the things you just talked about and the appetite for another them size. Very high, but today are very, very limited, and the hurdles are also hi. So we're we're gonna see going really can be crushed time brought me back there. Working this much this summer, tells you something but literally see, are very high. Degree of of legislative difficulty and a lot of pressure and a lot of intensity on Capitol Hill over the course of
months to come because really once you start wants to turn the quarter to twenty twenty two stated very quickly become all politics all the time and with another. Soybean following all week is the democratic law makers that left the state of Texas in order not to have a vote on voting rights, laws that tend to be extreme and you Scott. I'm wondering those some of those Democrats met with Joe Mansion yesterday. Where does he stand on this? What is his role? And what's next for these demo EC law makers. Who literally left the state? So there is no quorum well You know these law makers were hoping that the senator would support better voting legislation that could make what Republicans in the state of Texas or choice do obsolete merchants made it clear that he wanted to hear them out, but he said
said he's given no suggestion that he was going to change what it is that he believes that his constituents want him to do when it. to voting rights, and that is You know, process the filibustering. I'm I'm not surprised to hear that, given away, he is written in the washed imposed and said, Peter Leah and abuse up. Until this point, is very aware that you know many of the people who support him our conservatives and do not support what he believes to be an extreme and too liberal approach to voting rights, acts to voting rights. So, regardless of what those in Texas say and those outside of his state say, his priority is to continue to be those people that I like the am I right. Jeanne scarf from the Washington Post. Thank you very much, John Hume. Thank you as well
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