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Tom Brady- is a very good friend of Mine- is a great guy for those of you that don't know me
very honourable guy at an honest guy and a truly great athlete
is really a very good friend of mine, and I just spoke to him a little while ago, he's so thrilled and so happy tat. Might
be what Donald Trump saying now, after Brady cracked, a joke at the White House about the former presidents, false claims will show you what Brady said straight ahead. This is the kind of stuff that really bugs trump
speaking of sports, the biggest hurdle for athletes at the Olympics, maybe avoiding cove id,
it's already, hitting the games in Tokyo and voluntary.
Communities here at home and back to the former guy one of Donald Trump, close friends bust,
by the feds- and it goes straight back to what was happening inside the Trump administration will get that developing
legal story in just a moment and a lot more on this Wednesday July. Twenty first, but First Willie. Let's begin with them,
area latest on the virus. Good morning
a dangerous, highly contagious delta variant as
morning is responsible for eighty three percent of new covert infections of full seven months after the first highly affair?
The vaccine became available in this country. Hospitals again,
are inundated with a surge of patients who are very sick and the number of cases is climbing across the count.
This latest wave is impacting the most vulnerable states and communities that have low vaccination rates. In a moment, NBC gave Gutierrez will report from Louisiana on why
so many people are deciding not to get the shot, but First Miguel,
again with the latest numbers, the inside a growing number of hospitals across the country
is little doubt. Our nation has already entered a fourth way in explosive summer. Surging Kobe cases view predicted, fuelled by the highly contagious delta variant now, accounting for eighty three percent of all
cases the? U S is already averaging twenty six thousand new infections a day over one thousand an hour. The reason it so formidable is the fact that it has the capability of transmitting efficiently
from human to human, in an extraordinary manner on capital,
the nations tat pandemic. Doctors said it's the unboxing aided accelerating the pandemic as death skyrocket by nearly fifty percent.
things open or two hundred percent noble
were masts with the highest infection rates and the nation states like Missouri Arkansas in Florida have vaccination centres that are empty and hospital beds that are full? How concerned our
the children will be at the centre of the next surge in the fall. Yes, I think that you know there's there's that concern.
at the University of Alabama Birmingham, the pediatric care unit was nearly forced to shut down after a flood of children suffering from respiratory viruses that usually spite and spread in the winter cases of our as be our surging as restrictions loosen and more children gather together. In the same way, Kovac came about as a smart, be safe, tat, tat, try to protect yourself,
now fear Reno, widespread ball surge? Even vaccines are no guarantee against delta serious threat. We learned a fully vaccinated
How staffer and in aid to how Speaker Nancy Policy also tested positive for the virus. After meeting with fully inoculated Democratic Texas law makers, who flew mask list to Washington and suffered breakthrough infections and evolving threat, as the Un Vaccinated face a future that looked more like our past John BAR Tutsi got the keys
quickshot that he'd put off for months. What was kind of holding me back before honestly, I just didn't see the need for it just thought, while I'm young and healthy- and I thought maybe I wasn't going to be as affected as
their people that will be more risk is what public health experts describe as the movable middle adults that may have been initially sceptical of the vaccine, but aren't dead set against it,
people like sharing way under it. I felt like I was being crushed into it and when someone pushes up push about who became convey
staff for her adult son got sick. Why did you get it today is about failing government took up? I just didn't feel like him
Thus, with everything going on, I just didn't, know winter. I didn't do any research around the country, roughly half a woman,
organs are fully vaccinated, but daily vaccinations have dropped below. One million Louisiana is among the states with the lowest rates. Thirty, six percent of the people
nation here is fully vaccinated. Some parishes are below twenty percent. I think
a lot of misinformation that came out initially when the vaccine came out for those getting the vaccine. Now it seems that choice is all the more personal John Bertuccio is expecting his first child. Later this year, again raises is fixed over absolutely gave it
Air as reporting for us there from Lafayette Louisiana, gave notes forests that hospital in Lafayette Louisiana has two hundred sixty percent more coded patients. Then it
two weeks ago and make us doctors their talk about the movable middle public health officials, eight hours aunt on the middle. Who can move that
where they want to go, and it looks like some members of Congress may actually be in that movable middle. Yet
we'll get to that in a moment, but on the movable metal Willa? This is so interesting because this is there is a group of Americans who, perhaps, as the as we heard the woman in the
and gave peace say I felt pushed into it. She was
turning to all sorts of information, perhaps they followed Donald Trump Sphere,
worse than that. There's a lot of distrust and disinformation, even though Trump himself got the vaccine, he didn't push it. He pushed a lot of
its trust in the vaccine and even recently has done that and what the movable.
middle has now is they have been able to
ouch science play out before their eyes.
and they see that the vaccinated arson
from this virus than the on vaccinated and that those
Dying now are predominantly
nay, that those who are getting sick
those who are having the delta variant rip
through their communities, are on vaccinated and younger
and sicker, and that is the science they can see before their eyes over the course of months.
For the course of this year. It helps
and as willing mention the number two House Republican finally got his.
still of the vaccine. Congressmen Steve's gullies of Louisiana Goddess first shot
this past Sunday he had previously tested positive for covert antibodies. But now
dealt a variant on the rising said quote when you talk to people who run huh
but also in New Orleans or other states. Ninety percent scent of the people in the hospital with the delta variant, have not been backs
it'd that's another signal. The vaccine works
the House Minority WHIP added that the vaccine is safe and effective? And thank you, Steve Scully
forgetting out in front of that it doesn't matter when it's important you do it. Will I
spring in our conversation, clinical director, the division of infectious diseases at Brigham and women's hospital Doktor Paul sack stacked precisely
honey, it's good to see you. So let's get your snap
out of where we are, we sort of took a tour of the country. They are focused on Louisiana. Some of these states, with very low rates of vaccination, now seeing the biggest problems house
relations further.
Roof and some of those places
Where are we right now as a country? And where do you think we're headed as we move through the summer and into the fall when schools open again? Will it
It is down to very it has done this. It's really exposed the on vaccinated people to getting quite sick from the virus, and we ve seen this in practically.
Entire world right now there is a little
food diversity in the United Kingdom and in Israel, where they had. I vaccination rights in them
started, to see hospitalizations in non vaccinated people got up and then cases in vaccinate people to have their cases in the fact that people are much milder onboard, sometimes
just completely asymptomatic, but nonetheless the dangers real.
without the variant spread very easily and unboxing people are incredibly high risk, so Doktor said
Can you just underline for our audience and maybe some of the people watching in that movable middle? What, then,
where's, our in terms of who is ending up in hospitals right now, who is dying
tragically at this point in the pandemic. Is it ninety
percent- is ninety nine percent on vaccinate. What are the numbers so depends on the report.
The population has been vaccinated, but I can tell you that, even in a state that heavily vaccinated like our own state, even Massachusetts, the people, the worst
just in the hospital right now are those who have been on vaccinated by and large
the group that I worry about. Our people, whose immune systems are weakened by other underline illness that they have maybe they're taking medicines for cancer or for other problems. It suppress their mean system,
vulnerable, and so we really owe it to them to try to get as many people vaccine is possible because it protects not just yourself but also critically. Prison purple protects
There is a really worry about that population to doctors,
I am concerned about those who have been vaccinated carrying and passing along the delta variant. Is that possible, while its possible? It's far
slightly than someone who is on
accelerated, passing the virus and other people several study
have now shown that the vaccine
do this remarkable thing: they prevent people from getting sick from covered and they also reduce the likelihood that thou have higher
announced and virus spread to other people, so one of the primary
benefits of getting the vaccine. Is it protects everybody? So it's a public health issue initiative as well as a personal health initiative circumvent
in the vaccine has got to be going up as we learn these details. Although a new study released yesterday suggests the Johns
Johnson covert vaccine is proving to be much less effective against mutation
of the virus, including the delta variant
New Study has not yet been
here, were viewed nor published in a scientific journal, but the New York Times note
the conclusions add to the evidence that the-
Eighteen million people, inoculated with the job
some and Johnson vaccine may need to receive a second dose. Ideally one of the
our and a vaccines made by Pfizer by an tech or Modena, what are you hear about that
doktor sacks. What would you say to a patient who came to you and have got the Johnson and Johnson backs Aigner somebody who came to you for advice, and should I get a booster,
now the official guidelines are not to receive a booster, but when the other thing we ve had some concerns about the change, a vaccine for some time.
And there is quite a bit of chatter and the scientific community- that this
may be necessary in its grave and not just by the data that you mention and which are which had not been peer reviewed, but by studies that have shown
people who have received a vaccine either to change that
in which he has presented. A vaccine
they receive and am RNA vaccine just one vaccine. They have a tremendous boost to the strength of their vaccine, and so it would not surprise,
me if, ultimately, there is a recommendation specially without the circulating for the
Am RNA vaccines to follow the J J Maxie, but will have to see and just really really quickly, Doktor sacks
Where did it work? Do you stand on on some how people showing that they perceive the vaccine? Do you think? The fact that you can't tell who has
accident who hasn't it could cause more problems.
Country right now, well one thing that we public health officials of infectious diseases.
Less really do support is so
vaccine mandates are something that we have already in the United States and many school systems, and we can
using that in other other settings, for example, in hospitals,
first at ease in places where people have to work very closely together with?
I've been outbreaks right. Vaccine mandates are an extremely effective way of getting to that middle
decided, group or people who just say I haven't gotten around to it. If you say you need to get this
Maxine in order to go to work in order to go,
school? The net does get a significant proportion of people who are just sort of shrugging his shoulders about the vaccine. Gets them gets them, they had itself, but that's one thing: we strongly do support.
Would change the game. Doktor Paul sacks. Thank you very much. He is clinical director of the division of Infectious diseases Brigham and women's hospital in Boston. Willy nilly looks like
emu, I will lose another member of its olympic delegation because of corona virus. U S beach, volleyball, somewhere, Taylor Crab tested positive, while in Tokyo crowd was
I told the play in a match on Sunday night. So far, no replacement has
named around eighty cases now have been connected to the games ahead of Friday's opening ceremony and a top olympic.
Shows now saying they're still two days out a chance, the games could be cancelled if cases spike further, but as NBC Tommy Amis reports from Tokyo. The focus in Japan so
is on delivering a successful Olympic Games, the world's greatest athletes, including
Japan. They all real Sarka, have two goals: when a metal and dodge the virus, Tokyo reporting a spike uncovered cases more than thirteen hundred new infections,
still skateboard or Niger Houston safe. So far, these enjoying this sports first Olympics
what I expect it obviously so gotta be safe and take precautions because a covert, but it's it's amazing it easier and seems odd around the city. Then you are preparing for the living, like no other
You sure athletes are safe here. The measure for swimming those e coli rules. From the moment they walk. You can see right here there and Japanese, but also perhaps, and pictures in it over here. Every other thing is closed off, to keep a social decency and on the mirrors, more rules you feel like you're ready and that this will not happen. If you say yes,
No doubt the most dramatic covered measure, no spectators, even though Tokyo is still full of crowds from pack trains to semi full baseball stadiums. I asked Turkey was governor why the Olympic Games were being singled out. Why can t
go to the baseball game, but they can't go to the Olympics and so on are going well be a limp exist, not a local game,
international, therefore, the
Article sector has asked,
not to have spectators due to their being
we're passionately cheering olympic
organize your say, it will be a different type of event, but promise it will still captivate the world. All this with you
putting ceremony. Forty eight hours away in a living play is already under way in Tokyo as the. U S began. Its quest to regain the Olympics.
Ball- Gold medal yesterday- opening with it
nothing win over ITALY, also, the small
Australia name to become a three time olympic Coast as the internet,
Olympic Committee awarded the city a Brisbane.
summer games in twenty thirty two meagre.
Tom Barrack who chaired former President Donald Trump. Twenty seventeen inaugural committee was arrested yesterday for acting as an agent of the United Arab Emirates, without registering as a foreign agent he's acute
Two of influencing the foreign policy positions of the campaign and administration between April of twenty sixteen and April of twenty eighteen. This is according to the justice to power,
meant, the seven count grand jury indictments has Barrack used his friendship with Donald Trump to get laid
which inserted into the then candidates
energy speech in twenty. Sixteen about the importance of working with quote our Gulf allies
on behalf of the MRI bodies it all
says Barrack, provided you a government officials with puts sensitive, non public information about the positions of
double senior United States government officials with respect to the Qatar, a blockade candy
did by the USA and other middle
Eastern countries, the former tromp fundraising
also faces counts of obstruction of justice
and lying to law enforcement. A spokesperson for Barrack said he is a quote
himself voluntary, voluntarily avail
two investigators from the outset. He is not guilty and he will be pleading not guilty
Two other defendants were charged with unregistered foreign agency, along with Barrack joining Us
and we see news correspondent for investigations.
Tom Winter, former. U S attorney and an MSNBC contributor, Barbara Quaid, and why
rapporteur for the Associated Press, Jonathan Le Maire Tom? I want to start with you.
You want to add anything more to what I've already reported here, but also, who else
the administration or the campaign. Might this touch given that
types of Dealings Tom Barrack was having was really
question Megan right now will contain within this indictment. There's not a lot of indication of other individuals in the Trump orbit that were in
more than this, and in some respects you can look at this indictment and say in fact the president in the trumpet
Illustration that tromp campaign were the victims of this. If they were not aware,
there is no indication at least contained in the documents that they were, but I think the the
men raises some key questions? You ve laid out the overt acts or the or the things that Tom Barrack,
didn't in plain English, but I have some other questions. Looking the timeline,
The conduct is from April twenty, sixteen two April, twenty thousand and eighteen, and then on top of that, the
The eye interview is in June of twenty nineteen that's over two years ago. So why did it take
told you yesterday for us to hear about this, and why did
until yesterday for charges to be brought? I think there are some questions that deserve to be asked
We are asking them, because the scene
like a long period of time. Another question I have is why: why didn't you just file the the foreign?
Agents. Registration, I afterward I mean
Just, let us know what Tom Baron did
not necessarily illegal and is not illegal for him to to work on behalf of a foreign government
Why to lobby the presently United States, whether he's one of his best,
for thirty years or not. It is illegal if he does
disclose it. That's all that really needed to occur here. So I think that gets us too, are to the third question that I have, which is what did
I'm Barrack receive in any sort of
incineration any sort of preferential business.
assistance that he received from
Mercedes. I think it raises some serious questions to prove very you don't need to prove that he receives some sort of a compensation. That's not included in that. So it's not something that needed to be contained in the indictment, but we have scant details about that meek and, I think all three of those questions.
really deserve to be asked here, just a little confusing that two years after he allegedly lie to the FBI, all over
place, including about a separate phone that he had to conduct these
indications of encrypted messaging apps. That's why we're just hearing about it yesterday, so bar
let's just remind people how close com barricades to download Trop is Tom, mentioned friends. For thirty years, Tom Barrack actually spoke on the last night of the two thousand. Sixteen republican Convention, Tom Barrack of vodka trump and then download Tropic set
the nomination, that's where he stands in Donald Trump Life, but as a former federal power,
secure reading through the seven count indictment.
do you see exactly a cut to some of Tom's questions? What exactly sort of in plain language is Tom Barrack accused of doing here? What I think one of the points,
it's very in important here really is that this is not a p
work violations. I know Tom said that he could have filed
application of the attorney General Amber permitted to lobby on behalf of the Eu Eddie. That's absolutely right, but there's a reason that people doll.
just in a situation like that is because, if he had registered and everyone knew he was acting on Behalf
are you where he would never received the access
got in. Some of the allegations are that he had traps approach
from speech on energy in Sheridan,
with you government officials got their edit and then gave it back to President Trot tat. He took credit,
we're getting you D omitted from trumps travel ban in January of twenty seventeen. It says that he wrote
a bed in a favourable
firms to view I e, because he got input from you, represented
these things as his own judgment, an opinion when, in fact, he
was doing it on behalf of a foreign governments in the region. That is a crime.
isn't because he made a people work here is because it permits
quit undue influence by a former of one government on its Jackson to Willie's question he's right.
she Tom squashed. It does not
a motives because they're not required to allege emotive. They don't want to make it harder
who's your case them in Egypt, but there's
reporting in others,
times that his firm was paid. One point:
five billion dollars by
u I e in Saudi Arabia, so there are certainly
a very powerful financial motives that may be at stake here.
where does she is the potential for cooperation? We know that the eastern District of New York is also
stagnating fraud in this
inaugural campaign, which Tom Barrett cheered, and so he
the opportunity here to come
and ensure information with prosecutors about that investigations if he wants to
fuck off some of his time back. Did in tromp reporting has
through a little more distant Tom,
Your time, while the president was in office,
but remember and early two and twenty six in choice of then he remembered to be Patrick. I did me chief of staff that shows you how tight they once were.
Laboratory hidden it. Where I want to go with you, that's the sixty four thousand dollar question. Is it always is
We see and learn about investigation into a trap associate and there have been quite a few what,
for the rest as this pose to the former president himself. What do you see? There is potential for cooperation, could Barrack flip and also do things
congressional hearings on us? You know it's a great question,
congressional hearings, because I think that something that needs to be looked at here. I think prosecutors and their federal detention memo yesterday.
think? Pretty specific? To that point? They said that this, the conduct in this case quote strikes at the very heart of our democracy.
There's a lot of people out there. That say, while this far thing, you know you just follow your paper work here. You're all set in this is a prison sentence up to five years, but nobody ever gets it, but that nobody even gets charged with this. It's a robber Mahler was with special council. This was even something that we would hear criminal charges about. I think when you look at this type of behaviour, I think
didn't make a measured in the in the intro that he was giving non public sensitive information
back to you, eighty about how some of the people, the tramp tramp White House, felt about
going on in the Middle EAST
really serious, and so I think the flip side of that coin
when you talk to people on law enforcement. They say this is somebody who lobbied
directly on behalf of the EU aid to the highest levels of government, just based offer their friendship. This is such that the people should be concerned
about in be worried about so we'll Congress addressed that are there more tools that law enforcement should have from the standpoint of
Johnson in regulations that something that it'll be to be determined, I think, is far
the question about Tom Barrack Cooperate
in any sort of way, there's nothing
least initially about the ignored
That necessarily draws the president's conduct into question
illegal last standpoint. There is
Certainly we heard about it from the special councils investigation. They receive
number of transactions that occurs to occurred and tickets that were purchased that raise
questions about foreign nationals and in their donations to the inaugural, but that doesn't mean
They were solicited by the former present
or by anybody in his inner circle. So I think that's a big question mark. If that was the case, could Tom Barrett be helpful? Yes, but I've among, if number, four,
so I think time, Tom,
Winter and Barbara Mc Quaid. Thank you both very much for your reporting and analysis this morning, and still I had a morning Joe President, lightens bipartisan infrastructure deal could be in peril of vote.
Scheduled for later today. But lawmaking
still at odds over how to pay for the package plus
broken Senator Rand, Paul ramps up his view, but Doktor Anthony fetching we
Show you their latest hated exchange, also ahead. Fifty points from their biggest star
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It's the Milwaukee but
we're Crown NBA champion after defeating the Phoenix Sons, one o five. Ninety eight last night in gained sick,
the NBA Final Ciganas after Cooper led Milwaukee to it.
first title since one thousand nine hundred and seventy one hundred and fifty years ago, as just the seventh flare in finals history, who have a fifty point game,
points in fourteen rebounds and deciding game for Yon us here,
the unanimous choices finals and BP joining
Michael Jordan, as the only players to ever win NBA and Bp Finals and BP all STAR game and BP and defensive
of the year in their careers. It's my city thrust me. They believe in me.
Leading US apple participating, and just
my party them in a jam sheep still, but this is the
we do indeed do just do it. Every did did it with dignity
So Jonathan Lambertiana was drafted eight years ago is kind of a ganglia eighteen year old people not sure what his game was, how he was going to fit into the Lee and he's become believe
most magnetic star and putting a fine point on things last night with a legendary fifty point gain when his team
did it most said he wanted to win on the home. Forty Milwaukee. Obviously, arena pack, but the shot last night
the city who waited fifty year
for an MBA title, people filling the street
outside the arena to watch the game on big screens, thrilling for the city and down the back of that guy right there on us onto the coop, oh yeah is drafted as a
project out of Greece, really no one knew what the box we're getting
he's blossom and transformed into a mega star and carers.
Guy, a good guy and one who s. He just alluded.
Turned down the opportunity to leave for a bigger market to join forces with other NBA stars, like we see so often with the broad James
I am a or what was happening currently with the Brooklyn Nets,
he wanted to stay in the walkie does what he wanted to do and he built this championship. Then I know there is a lot of.
Some naysayers about the it may perhaps a sheer alot of stars going out with injuries. But whenever the compelling files
mean in the box and the sons and Willie, as you know, is someone who, as I am someone who routes for a plucky underdog like them
so red Sox who went a long time without a championship, I'm always partial to a fan base that hasn't one
in decades. In this case it would have worked away the box fifty years, the Phoenix sons have never one good for that different gotta get from a walkie. That's that was a great sin. Yesterday, great title,
and we saw guy holding the trophy Chris Middleton, another crucial part of that championship, team and all star as well. Congratulations to agree
city Milwaukee fifty years and awaiting now to another group of box.
President Biden. Welcome the Superbowl champion Tampa Bay, buccaneers to the White House. Yesterday,.
You know a lot is made about the fact that we have the oldest coach everyone should rule girl was quarterback to win the Superbowl
right now,
you order any jokes about that. For me. That's why
I am concerned there is nothing wrong with baby oldest guy to make it through the mountain top at
so by
All this person to become president comparing himself two bucks coach Bulgarians and Quarterback Tom
Brady, elder statesmen themselves. As for Brady Citizens, first,
Is it to the White House since two thousand five, when George W Bush welcome the champion,
England. Patriots Brady has won the Superbowl during for different administrations, but skipped visits
patriots in two thousand fifteen, when Barack Obama was president, ended two thousand seventeen. When Donald Trump was in office. The patriots as a team chose
to attend after winning. The title in twenty nineteen here is what Brady had to say yesterday is nice for me to be back here
We had a game in Chicago where I forgot. What down it was
lost track of one down in twenty one years applying and they started call me sleepy Tom
Would they do that to me a lot of people.
I think that we could have one. In fact, I think about forty percent.
still I think we won
Henderson
Sir John, who Le Maire, ear at long time, patriots fan of Tom Brady Fan. Of course,
he knew exactly what he was doing yesterday, there's been sort of in the background for him, this question of whether it was
from Guy Robert Crafty Patriots owner.
If I may make Amerika great again had at one point, which was sitting in his locker behind him during a series of interviews, he has served, died
any political questions, but certainly made his state
Yesterday at the White House, yeah Brady
and Tromp, were friends before Trump really got into politics yet found the gulfs
and so on, but Brady has pretty quietly consistently distanced itself from Trump
for the years, even though we heard from Trump repeatedly talk about great praise, Brady idolized break
just that his daughter advocate Europe should have been with Tom Brady Brady, though
meanwhile
his own wife Gazelle had made clear interviews. The to them did not vote for trot, but this was still remain.
will the brain was so public about this yesterday and to do so-
in a really amusing manner. He was funny. Also answer,
and I think the sound we just heard. I was these- the of remote being hurled across the living room of a contract on residence and bed. This new jersey- and certainly this, is something that will not go over well with Donald Trump who, as we know his big
Fear is the sort of be laughed at me. Ridiculed remark tat. He would always talk about that and speeches and to be the subject of the joke by someone who he really is fond of Brady and someone who just be
him Biden is stating over the house where he used to live. That's a tough combination for Donald Trump, and I guess we should
I should be grateful that he's no longer act where it's definitely the kind
thing that bother SAM. Instead of the you hundreds of thousands of people who have died,
corona virus and the you know, chaos he's lest it left as wake in Washington. He cares about this kind.
tough in a big way. It bothers him coming up the
serious Havana
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as many as two hundred Americans have come forward to describe symptoms of directed energy attacks. Part of a wave
ports that includes newly identified incidents around the world and what officials but
to be the so called Havana Syndrome
and be sees Mitchell has more
as officials having and busy news as many as two hundred Americans have now reported possible cases of that so called Havana syndrome.
Serious neurological symptom, sometimes brain damage, first reported by diplomats at the: U S,
embassy in Havana and twenty. Sixteen then appearing
Russia and China. This year,
Doesn't new cases in Vienna,
other in Berlin. U S, officials say potential victims on every continent, but Anderton
we are investigating in reviewing reports of incidents from all around the world.
Including personnel from the State Department, CIA and Pentagon, but no proof of the cause in twenty eight
In NBC News reported: U S, intelligence, official, suspected Russia, Russia denies it but mark per annum.
Apple has told me he had to quit the CIA because of symptoms that started in Moscow. I couldn't stand up
I was falling over. I had incredible sense of knowledge,
and ringing in my ears I was frankly terrified. We sat down exclusively
with cuban investigators and twenty seventeen who deny blame poor lol.
It possesses technology. Cuba has never produced these weapons.
Turn is now calmness, tested editor for the Washington Post, David Ignatius and David. Let's start right there what's going on and why can't at least american govern
pin point what is happening here, there's
to be so many parallels in these reports. Coming
and the fear I I'm hearing and feeling is for our diplomats overseas,
I share that make I talk to some of the same people that Andrea did for her reporting was.
Hobbling was for many many months,
me years. Really, the? U S, government wasn't taking the reports,
this venison raw mother, neurological symptom seriously and people suffering from just felt that they were being ignore them.
told us might be psychosomatic. This might be
Ass related, we don't know the problem. Finally, there take
seriously. It's a really good thing that the new c I a director bill burns dead ass, soon ass. He got in the problem, obviously make it is that at a certain point, when there's something unknown overseas, that's attacking people. People begin to get worry if taken themselves and their families to posting
in places like Moscow like Beijing, where you might be targets of this sort of attack. Again
There are all kinds of technologies for surveillance. You could be a laser window and measures
aberrations as people talk and all sorts of February. Eccentric technologies is that
going on here. The simple point is
we need to know and then demand that a stop.
as you said, is expanded far beyond Havana. Now the government looking closely at it David, you just returned from a reporting trip to
Dad and you write about the government in place there, the countless titled Mustafa Al Qaeda,
these government in Iraq has a long way to go, but at least it's a start in it. David right
This quote d is a rare figure in a region where most political leaders are autocrat crooks or both he's a former journal
Then, intelligence, chief, whose long
idealism in short on political power, it doesn't have a party or a militia. He has try but often failed.
curb the iranian back militias that playing his country. He has made reform
MRS that so far he has mostly been unable to keep with his trim
suits and dark sharply drawn features. Could Amy could play in air?
spy master in the movies. He still lives in the stylish, but rarely
Every small house he inhabited before taking office can be strengthened
It is both is that he is not a pilot.
patient so David. What did you see over there? What did you find in Baghdad? Not just with codine but with the state of the country, just
twenty four hours ago there was a terrible suicide bombing in Solder City that killed thirty people, this stability of that nation and
Pity me once from the United States here well,
at first. It was fast dangers to travel around the world again to spend five days in Baghdad. It's kind thing that
journalists are used to do it, but it's been difficult during the the pandemic. What I
and was first there are a lot
brave Americans who are serving their. Our embassy has been a target of the area
In back militias day I went to the american embassy. They said vice great. This is
really calm, we haven't had a rocket missile fired at our embassy in four days. That's
The usual measure of of calm either got great big, see, ram military
guns, gun the gateway
the embassy firing. There's you can shoot down a mortar rounds missiles, so this is kind of a war zone. The iraqi government of Prime Minister
economy that I want to interview is being as tough as if there is to be enforced.
these militias again? While I was there how to me arrested
rocky Iranian backed a rocky militiamen who
killed, one of his friends and Iraq. Intellectual have done some good,
just writing about IRAN's attempts to influence
you're late Iraq, he'd been assassinated and and cod
sent his forces in disorder city, the Shia sent,
and these two Baghdad arrested. Him took him to to justice that took a lot of
so that was something that I have marked the final thing just
briefly. That I saw is, is that the
very small numbers of american forces that are solar under twenty five hundred, not
We combat missions, now training, Iraqis, providing intelligence support, make a big difference.
Economy. The Iraq leaders coming to wash at the end of the month is going to ask.
The continuation of that support. What I saw
with my own eyes is that Iraq
keys were out there doing.
They were not really would like.
Americans, alongside Alpine David, you ve been very pro
Think these days, you have another column, one of your latest, its entitled. Russia and China are trying to control the internet even as they sensor it
right in part. This
shows alignment with China on cyber issues, dampens. Whatever help the Vine administration might have had that it could split the two countries even
russian and chinese intelligence operatives escalate their attacks on the west. The two governments are trying to claim
the high road as in
cops and
dancing western technology companies as dangerous monopolist's. The internet is the high ground of the twenty first century in terms of economic, political,
and even military power, but, however advanced technology
battle for control is trench. Warfare fought in obscure meetings and forums and stand
third setting bodies, I'd like to hear more David about right
in China banding together here creating
challenge for the United States from the get go in dealing with these two countries, countries together or separately, meeting
as I said in the column this morning, to have rights
China, but proposed to,
the new rules for safeguarding cyberspace is
just as stunner in terms of hypocrisy
by russian and chinese state of Caesar. These are countries that, according to
latest revelations by our intelligence agencies have been met:
deliberate attacks against
Microsoft, software used by tens of thousands of companies,
read somewhere, operations that are putting U S pipeline
their infrastructure companies and in jeopardy these same country
Is that our tolerating these actions by hackers within
met, sometimes sponsored directly as in the case of China, by the by the intelligence,
We are proposing to be the cops
right, the rules and an end complaining that the United States is an irresponsible
monopolised men seeking to control the internet. The fact that the two of them have come together to try to
I said this control. The high ground of technology in the future should concern us glad that
the by demonstrations. Taking it. Sir
It is going to be trash warfare. You gotta fight it and obscure.
but never heard of, like the International Telecommunications Union, that's gonna end up
being where the rules for the internet, the governance system,
system that we all use work live in will be will be written over the coming years.
David Ignatius, thank you very much
for being on this morning. Really, are I mean
she's me. The centre will hold a procedural vote on the bipartisan infrastructure build today, even though the legislation is not yet finished.
sixty senators will need to vote in favour for the motion to move forward, but Republicans are united
opposition to the move, even negotiators of the bill say they are willing to vote
against their own legislation. A bipartisan group of centres met until lately
night trying to resolve the last few issues. Republicans are asking majority leader Chuck sure to move
to Monday now to give them some more time the Washington Post,
is reporting that several republican senators were preparing
formal letter Tuesday to shimmer saying they would be prepared to vote to advance the infrastructure package Monday. That's according to people familiar with its contents.
It is said: Senator Shimmering will lay the ground until
so, if the majority later, which has agreed to delay the vote,
until very early next week, make it to the first photo Monday. Then I think we could head language to show up and be able to move if the Senate does not get
but to move forward majority leader shimmer can change,
his vote and bring the legislation back up again later joining us now, Whitehouse editor for Political SAM
stein so sand. This gets a little confusing this procedure
drove out we're talking about some of the republic,
who are actually working on this bipartisan piece of legislation might vote against it. It first just to kick the can down the road, explain a little
What's going on here. So essentially, these guys have a framework of a deal that lacks the fine detail,
to fill it in and tumor as more or less called their blood. He said if you're gonna get a deal, don't you
then by mass, let alone on this. That's gonna happen. Today the Republicans are saying:
Nobody more time we got a phone these, essentially the pay forests for this bill. Give us
more days, but democratic.
Little wary of this. They have more memories. They know what happened in two thousand and two dozen ten with the construction of a bomb occur in other, kept, getting push back and met him back, and they want to
get the action going. So we'll see what happens, trade they're, gonna be,
to avoid this is just to start the amending and debating process it has been done,
for where the parties pass a bit of logistics
that is not finalized and then finalize it and then get it to get it off the floor with the second vote. That's what could happen today. In all likelihood, what happens today,
is republican, say we're not ready to vote on this.
that we negotiated we're not gonna, give you the sixty votes, you need to start the amended
process, and then she will have a choice. Does he would fail and try to talk at all into one big piece of legislation that they can pass with? Only the party votes, or does he see to the repress immovable down to Monday and said,
ok, you promised me six votes and what stood on Monday, Hey SAM Johnson,
I certainly do not imply SAM, it's impossible. To
ever really know and ever be really confident that any piece of legislation will actually happen? Things can fall apart at any time. We know how Congress works
you better than most.
let's just say hypothetically, it does, and you can't just put this- do we think that if it
whether its today or maybe shimmer gives them
more days, and then it does fall apart early next week and he said in the Republicans: take the bond home. Will the democratic,
able to do this by reconciliation are already concerns from sought more moderate Democrats what the size of the reconciliation bill, even without this hard infrastructure piece of it, you put him altogether,
it's only going to grow. What do you think that looks
Do you think someone get this done? We know how desperate the way.
This is to have a bipartisan deal, they'll Fort, for, of course, if they can't have with parliament's support on their own, can't make it happen,
I think so I know that shimmers been working behind the scenes were now to get a fifty vote. Commitment from his party
Reconciliation package. I don't think that you'll become problematic. If he says look this infrastructure component baby.
Gonna do separately narrowly should be talked in. They all knew in advance and their right to take those two roads. If they do it as one vote, I soon they're gonna be fine with it, but the big question is: is
the size of package get too big to your point, Jonathan
to find where the moderate say you know, this is just too much money and secondarily
this has been getting little attention, but my eyes, I put it to have a good piece of this morning that it what happens in the House House Democrats or in our saying we had very little input on both the policy and the process to this point, the only
for vote majority. Here. You're, too, need all of our votes, because
really very low, like those involved for the thing do they get complicate, does do things complicated when the thing goes back to the house,
all right. So, SAM political morning, concept, poles are taking a look at Biden, approval ratings. How is the president doing and also maybe it's a little early, but looking ahead to the midterms feels early
probably not too early to by means of preventing that fifty two percent that's a lot of lower than it has been, but it still fairly good. I think that MR.
a slight hears trump never was above those made. Forty Rangers Biden has been consistently in the midst of these two high fifties. You can see across the board, he gets gray, marching Democrats pretty good, marksman and insolent fifty fifty fish and then, of course, Republicans, are very much opposed to the job he is doing.
Mid term numbers again, green us all here were far way way. I also, of course, on which hide some experiences with a horse was falling in elections to serious, but right now a new look at this
ok busy Island is pretty good across the board. Democrats, arab and share it, but if you look at extremely busy ass to give both numbers republican send to be more extremely busy ass. To reason, that matters is that midterms luck, mid term elections and to be good for the party had a power because of turn out other more enthusiastic about it. That's a case Democrats are looking at.
You know what is in store trends of losses imagines that could be the case here,
political, SAM Stein. Thank you very much, and still I had more than two million adults in New York City are still on vaccinated against cove id
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