Some very brave and capable afghan special forces units and soldiers of Afghanistan. Is unable to mount any real resistance of the Taliban. Now there is no chance that one year, one more year, five more years or twenty more years. The, military boots on the ground have made any difference I believe, too, my core. it is wrong to order american troops to step up and Afghanistan's own. Armed forces would not. an empire and more adamant than ever that Erica, sustained military mission in Afghanistan, is over what we only this morning by a top voice at the Defence Department, when Pentagon spokesmen John Kirby joins us. As chaos grips a country now ruled by the Taliban.

plus new developments overnight in the fight against Covert Biden, administration has decided that most Americans should get a boost donation, eight months after they receive their sex shot. We'll have a Details on that just ahead good morning welcome to morning Joe, is Tuesday August seventeenth and we're to begin this morning with the chaotic scenes from kettles International airport, with thousands of Afghans rounded planes in a desperate attempt to escape Taliban control and BC. News too foreign correspondent. Richard angle, has the latest from Kabul tens of thousands of afghan swarm did to cobbled airport desperate to leave at any price they burst through security. Climbed over walls spilled onto the tarmac searching for any airplane that would take them far away from Afghanistan away from the Taliban

so many managed to cram into one plain pilot refused to take off people on board refuse to disembark, but it was a cross, a barbed wire divide where it turned really: on the military side of the airport, american troops trying to vat U S, embassy staff found themselves overwhelmed suddenly battling ouch firing warning shots. This was not the mission they came for. The Pentagon says you s, troops shot dead to armed Afghans, but still the crowds didn't Instead, they ran along and clung to the under carriage of a military transport plane as a taxi for take off one. U S military official told me: it was a hundred times worse. Then the humiliating American pull out from Saigon. Afghans are

from the Taliban now in full control setting up checkpoints with the very weapons american taxpayers bought for the afghan army, which collapsed instead of fighting after the? U S, pulled out of bases and lead. And without your support and the? U S, didn't see this coming. We on the tremendous security vacuum created when the? U S left Bognor Mayor Base two months ago, leaving it so undefended an empty? I was able to bike down the runway? The warning signs were there and this weekend, Cobble was taken without resistance, and the afghan president fled still in the country. Are tens of thousands of afghan interpreters I worked for death by the Taliban, who we're taking their meals in the presidential palace settling in celebrating their victory. Is we drove through cobble

its clear the Talibans, hard line Islamists rule is creeping back. This was popular beauty, salon styling women's hair and make up the tallow. Ban salons, along with education for women and girls? So when the Taliban returned now, they ve painted over the beauty shop. People here know what the Taliban, what they know, what the tab on x We watch demand tear up the beauty, parlor sign in line with abounds wishes. A twin Year WAR, the longest Wes history ended in disgrace, the? U S leaving behind a country. Its citizens are too terrified to live in the administration. Maintaining it was taken by Surprise Richard angle, reporting from Afghanistan in the face of growing criticism from Democrats and Republicans alike, President Biden turned to the White House from Camp David briefly yesterday, to address the nation and defend

It is administrations decision to withdraw american troops from Afghanistan. our mission in Afghanistan, was never supposed to ban nation building. It was never supposed to be. Creating a unified, centralized democracy. Our only vital licences in Afghanistan remains today. What has always been preventing Here's the attack on american homeland. I stand squarely behind my decision. After twenty years I've learned the hardware. That's it never a good time. Withdraw? U S, forces. That's. Why we're still there? We were killed Right about the risks we plant, contingency, but I always obviously american people, wildly straight with you. The truth is this did on far more quickly than we

Anticipated so what's happened, Ghana stand political leaders gave up and fled the country get military collapsed. Some time without trying to fight, if anything, developments? In the past week, reinforced I mean? U S military involvement. Afghanistan now was- right decision, truth cannot and should not. Be fighting a war. dying in a war that afghan forces not willing to fight for themselves. Sign left again Ask of those who argue that we should stay. How many more generations, America's daughters and sons. Would you have me send to fight Afghans, Afghanistan, Civil war will have can true for my.

How many more lives miracle lies? Is it worth many endless rows of Headstones Arlington National Cemetery. We will continue to support the afghan people. We will lead with our diplomacy, are international influence and our humanitarian aid will continue to wish for regional diplomacy and engagement to prevent violence and instability will continue. Speak out for the basic rights of the afghan people. Women and Girls Justice speak out all over the world? I've been clear Human rights must be the centre of our foreign policy. Not the periphery. but the way to do it is not through endless military deployments. I'm now the fourth american President, to preside over war in Afghanistan, to Democrats and Republicans,

I will not pass this response, my on responsible manner, a fifth president. not mislead. The american people by claiming just a little more time in Afghanistan, will make all the difference. Nor will I shrink from my share of responsibility for where we are today and how we must move forward from here. I am present of the United States of America and the buck stops with me said Joe not flinching their President Biden, saying I stand squarely behind my decision to withdraw their alot of people in this country who voted for that idea. There a lot of people in this country who agree with that idea to withdraw, but no one agrees. But their seeing right now on their screen, see seventeen swarmed by the afghan people trying to get out of that country to escape Taliban some of them falling from the sky as they cling to those plant, those planes and all

the present talking about that the United States is prepared for every contingency, it sure does not look like it this morning, when you see those images away, and your exactly right. Most Americans did supporter withdraw from Afghanistan and April poll showed. Seventy five percent of Americans supported that withdraw we obviously I did obviously didn't most in foreign policy community, obviously didn't because we had five hundred people. There. Three thousand people there that that were were able to do their job just like we had thirty five. The people in Syria that were able to hold back the Iranians, the Russians, the Syrians ISIS or on and for some reason, Donald Trump decided a yank. Those troops out of those the out of that country.

And and this idea that there is never a good time to withdraw well, the commander in chief, is There was never going to be a good time to withdraw from Afghanistan, and I would argue that if we have fifty thousand troops in Japan since one thousand nine hundred and forty five thirty five thousand troops in Germany since nineteen forty five over thirty thousand, troops in South Korea, since one thousand nine hundred and fifty three, if we've had twelve thousand troops in ITALY since one thousand nine hundred and forty five and and if we have just a fraction of that two thousand five hundred troops in Afghanistan and And an american troops have been killed in the past. Eighteen months seems like a false Deadline to me- and I swear- I can't find a military person who thinks this was the right thing to do. But that being said

Joe Biden ran to repress the United States. He went To get America out of Afghanistan, people voted for and met only. They voted for him to get the troops out of Afghanistan. Maybe if who did, but it's not like you, didn't promises. He was going to do this, so there's never time to withdraw, but Joe Biden had promised american well. He was going to withdraw from Afghanistan But there is a right way to withdraw. and the present can say that he planned for every contingency, but he knows that's not true. The White House knows that's not true and e mail people know that's not true and that's. How is seventy five? percent proposition. Devolved into a political disaster for this White House. They need to turn things around and the first thing they need to do is Need to save those who helps

our troops over the past twenty years. We just can't keep banning allies in the field. Donald Trump abandoned the Kurds. we're abandoning our interpreters and act Ghana. Stan we just keep going at having people risk their lives and then even in the middle of the night, like we have here from volume. Air force base are, with these same, since spring, and right now, step writer from the Atlantic George Packer, Georgia's, it's not bad in the Atlantic, is titled binds well of Afghans will live in. For me, He writes in part. This is when you blame to go around for a twenty year debacle in Afghanistan enough to fill a library books. Perhaps effort to rebuild the country was doomed from the start, but our

and men of the Afghans who helped us who counted on us whose stay to their lives on ice is a final gratuitous shame that we could have avoided the binding ministration El, the heed: the warnings on Afghanistan failed to act with urgency, failures of tens of thousands have of Afghans to a terrible fate This betrayal will live in. For me, the burden of the shame falls on President Joe Biden, George Backer. this before the scenes of yesterday. I'm curious your thoughts this morning, feel sick. To my stomach, I have, I felt waste and Sunday when we learn that cobble had already fallen to the Taliban before any Regulations had begun and the entire content of the president's speech. Defending the decision to withdraw troops was politically success, I think an utterly irrelevant we know He had his reasons, and there were some good reasons it that's done. The question is why

they doing now. What are they gonna do with the thirty five hundred or so Marines in in the Kabul International Airport. How are they gonna get people from? city to the airport passing Taliban checkpoint. How are they gonna find out? he needs evacuation beyond just special immigrant bees accommodates the interpreters and others this thousands of other Afghans. Human rights activists edgy it or civil society figures who are every bit as marked for death as the interpreters. And who are their names, aren't even unless this is because it was no planning line in his speech about we plan for every contingency it made me choke, and the other line about some african didn't wanna leave. I don't know where the president was talking about. Who did he talk to who didn't wanna leave? Eighteen thousand kids were on years long lists for applications for special limit, visas along with family members. They were desperately to get out, and we know the reason why? Because the Taliban are looking for them, there are already beginning to kill people.

she's, not a minute to waste, and I hope the administration has. Plan now for how they're going You use the security that we have brought to the airport itself, to get Afghans to the airport and out of the country on numerous flights day after day. Should be there for three weeks now in order to get as many Afghans out as we can reject planes flying in around the clock and and guard the perimeter for as long as it takes couldn't agree more George, basically reporting Can you tell us what what what lad? I do? The chaos of the past several days. I think it was pressure from different parts of the administration for a coordinated evacuation back in May when we first began withdrawing troops, but they kept falling back on wishful thinking.

The idea that it be streamlined. The application process we'd have enough time to get people out the argument that Was a? U S, territory that might create legal problems. If Afghans, who were in long with some legal rights, therefore, we would look for third freeze. While there were no third countries just a lot of wishful thinking, in temporizing ended the main problem was the man at the top didn't want to do it so ever around him was trying to get it done in the Pentagon. The state department, Joe Biden, refused, and so were left now with it. tremendous tragedy arbiter It's a shame and it's it's on all of us is on all of us, because this war really was the entire American Nations WAR for twenty years. All of us are going to bear the stain of this. There is still a few days left before the steam becomes indelible and I, as I said, I just hope the administration understands that they need not to get

Africans out and wheels up. That would be the ultimate shame, but just day long enough to get tens of thousands of acts? and out will sort out the visas. Ah, the past the processing later on from a safe place. Georgia had a veteran say to me yesterday, you wanted me to point out to remind the viewers that the Afghans that we see in those images cars. I airports are the ones who actually have a chance to get out, but, as you point out, there are many many more across the country to help the United States military overlap twenty years who isolated who have no waiting even get to cobble, let alone to get out of the country. What's yours of how many of those people there are and what fate waits for them, they can't even get to cobble for a shot to get one of these transport plaints. I think about half of the Special immigrant visa applicants are outside of possible, which is directly counter. What administration people told me a couple of months ago that they believe almost

All of them were in Kabul. That was more wishful thinking. I honestly would know what to say to an afghan in Kandahar or in Hurrah in Missouri. Sharif No, how we're going to get to the provincial capitals and secure those airports either cobble is the only game right now, but there are so many people in cobble, including we should not forget its, not just military interpreters, it's all kinds of civil society. People who are gonna be marked for death. We needed you're out a way to get them safely to the airport. There are told about checkpoints all over the city is your reporting now, and the Taliban are going to be looking for people who are trying to get to the airport and helping them and want to know who are you and why are you leaving? What is our plan for how to get those people? to the airport, let alone onto a plane in and out of danger, Joe advantage.

king to several folks high up in the White House over the past twenty four hours, and one of the things that they bring to the table in terms of the thinking here, is that you, there are twenty five three thousand troops in Afghanistan at the time and there hasn't been a death in eighteen months, but that's not it actually accurate. That there would have been more needed. This way, wasn't stable, and that point in an tromp actually sent in thousands more, and the situation did not stabilize, and so Biden was not going. Go and deeper. He wasn't. He just wasn't going to do it, but they They contend that to say there are just a couple thousand troops there and things were going well. You know why. Why topple that, in a white touch that was It's not it's actually accurate that they had sent thousands and more during the drum administration, and the situation was

still getting worse. Well, we have thirty five thousand troops South Korea who could be of IRAN in a minute by the north an army, but they therefore reason there is a trip wire there. There to make sure that North Korea doesn't invade South Korea there there to provide like Terry assistance there there to help provide for air cover a much smaller level. Twenty five hundred troops in Afghanistan is now snack can be able, rebuild the country. This is a country that in two thousand five, we realise three, then we were never going to rebuild this country, but we have, despite what some people the administration are saying. We have learned to do allied with a and I keep going back to Syria would. I would say to them that twenty five hundred three five hundred troops in Afghanistan couldn't do need.

I would remind them that thirty five hundred troops in Syria in the middle Besides Syria held the Syrians held the Russian, I held the Arabians held the Turks and held ices at bay. and when russian mercenaries came after them they killed them all. So one of the lessons and enjoy Packer. Let me bring you in here on this one as well. One of one of the few lessons that we ve learned militarily over the past twenty years. Is we don't have to send a hundred and fifty thousand troops into a country to make a difference. If we want to push back on ISIS If we want to provide a safe zone for refugees, we can send three five hundred groups into Syria, and they can make a substance she'll difference. We ve had David Ignatius on talking about that for quite some time. We

learn how to do a lot with a much smaller footprint, much like the one we had in Afghanistan, where you saying Joe, is we basically fail that what we call counterinsurgency? We could not help the Afghans win a civil war against a really ah strategic and brood insurgency, but we do know how to do terrorism, in fact, that's what Joe Biden was pushing for twelve years, ago when he was present a bomb, as vice president and said, let's leave behind a footprint, a small footprint of counter terrorist groups, but you know what we did achieve in Afghanistan. We did not create a state, we could create a state or an army, and those were massive failures and illusions on our part. But what we have created is a civil society in the cities where young, after,

an entire generation have grown up feeling connected to the world with ideas and freedoms and possibilities that they never had before. All of that has collapsed overnight why we're figuring out how to get some of them out. Let spare a moment to the utter tragedy of what done to those young Afghans. What promises we broken? That's why the president's speech yesterday left be feeling a little bit sick seemed to spare, not a thought for the Afghans, as if it's all their fault, as if they refuse to light when, in fact, afghan troops have taken massive casualties in past years and not a thought for those young Afghans: who, on on the basis of our promises and our health of really built civil society there and that civil society is now fallen into darkness under the Taliban. I was- on that to George Pack or thank you very much will be reading your reporting in the Atlantic. Let's bring it White House report for the Associated Press, Johnson, Le Maire,

former aid, they George W Bush at White House and State Department. a lease Jordan she's, an MSNBC political analysts Donnelly's. We should start with you at this time. Yesterday, you were extreme They upset worried about loved ones, friends who are at the cable airport. What is the update? I know you have been tweeting. updates on the people. You know their Anne and what can you tell us about the latest from what your hearing on the ground meagre? It's absolutely horrible, we completely mishandled and bungled. The treaty, of our allies and left so many men in men who kept Americans alive and welcome, welcomed us into their country. We let them in the lurch, and so there was such a sudden mad dash to try to get on why any flight, even without a visa that the Kabul

Marshall Airport just became absolute chaos, as you saw from the images, and friends who made it there, I thought they were on the wide thought that they were finally say because the airport- certainly it was assumed- had to be a safe place for this. So many embassies had evacuated there and then this situation just I rolled so out of control and from what I am hearing still today from Athens in Kabul, the airport, that commercial site is still hey, I've and it still not under control. So I'm so concerned that, even if we can get white exactly, why are people to evacuate our allies? How are they even going to be able to take off if we have a small force there and we expect three thousand marine, to control a crowd that is simply out of control. So janitors. You watch that each from the president yesterday, as I said he stood firm. He made the case,

again that is making actually from ten years ago, when it was vice president again in the campaign and now as president, that it was time to go people like General Day, betray us and said: do you think having thirty five hundred troops amount and troops in Afghanistan would not be preferable to the scenes were seen play out right now. Is there any question? Is there any backroom talk about changing the approach? We are different from we heard from the president yesterday so really over the last twenty four hours? I talk to some of the president's starches allies in a number of the defend the decision to leave Afghanistan. No one has to transition how we're leaving Afghans, leaving this tumult, chaos and violence in our wake without question the biggest foreign policy crisis? This president's admittedly young term, and to this point

the age that I've talked. You suggest there is no course Gresham come. Yes, they did at a set, they have set more troops and other additional thousand yesterday Bring told her about seven thousand or so will be there to help with the evacuation of american personnel. And yes, the Afghans who have we ve helped us whose lives are now in danger. Those translators other citizens there who were cited with Americans over the Taliban, whose lives are now very much at risk. But beyond that, there is not at least not yet any suggestion of a permanent presence there in the president was extreme forceful about this. Yesterday winning the decision and he and his Aids have made this point repeatedly that the? U S has spent twenty years and trillions of dollars putting the afghan security force like this. What good would it a further six months or a year or two, obviously, that's a point that others have taken question what they think. They have said that, even if it is a minimal, presents to help safeguard things, that's worth doing at least for now the present,

hasn't indicated he would want to do so as a final point as one of his top Alan said to me just last day, Europe into surprise, even dismay. president, whose from hallmark is empathy, He is someone who we talked about this there's no american president who's ever been able to talk about grief and empathy like Joe Biden and theirs. very little about yesterday for the afghan people, which came as a surprise and certainly now, this is playing the White Ass, a huge challenge in the days and weeks ahead, as they wonder. What's come next, including of course, the worst case scenario that Afghanistan becomes a safe harbour for terrorist yet again, and we heard make of the frustration from President Biden with the afghan military yesterday, some eighty in dollars of american taxpayers, money spent and the Afghan, military stepping aside now that didn't surprise, actually a lot of military american military commanders that we spoke to, but again those weapons. Now, falling into the hands of the Taliban

as for those who need to be evacuated, the White House, it is saying the flights resumed last night about two thousand people have been flow now so far and we can get more and those numbers from Admiral Kirby. Coming up later on CIAO Jonathan ITALY's stay with us. There's some serious whether to watch in the southeast today, even as a Second system turns further south. Let's go to build herons for the latest on that bill. Good morning to you make it we're still watching what is now tropical depression. Fred and in Haiti is still dealing with grace. So, let's get with fright. Firstly, retorted Why should the Atlantic area that will continue through one o clock? The storm is done with Laura. Now it's moving through Georgia with a high risk of flash flooding today especially the mountainous areas of southern appellations North Georgia, Tennessee Tennesseeans procurement, ash. North Carolina. So here's the late

Hurricane Centre, it's a depression. The winds are likely to cause any more problems. They really cause many problems. Anyways the storm is moving about fourteen miles per hour. It's just slow enough to cause some significance. Having problems as it moves over the southern appellations notice. There's the forecast path to the right of that is where the heavy rains will be. We have millions of people under flash floods. just as you would expect from Atlanta all the way through the Mountain North Carolina in Virginia here's, the rain forecastle locally could be at this. Seven inches of rain today in the mountains tonight, heads into West Virginia and then tomorrow into Thursday, that heavy rain and move from Washington DC through Pennsylvania. Some of it could be around New York City and the Hudson Valley, as we go through Wednesday night into Thursday morning system will work its way right up the EAST coast and, as far as grace goes, Haiti is still under a tropical storm. What we will be watching historic, pulling away from Haiti, but same areas that are dealing with a recovery in the devil, she's not earthquake our seeing terms

actual rain right now it's been pouring there about the last twenty four hours. The pictures that There will not be pretty when we get them in the store, we'll be pulling over Jamaica later today and thankfully we will not have to worry about grace in the United States. The storm is here, take a solely track towards can't, could and then towards Tampico Mexico. Avoiding areas of Texas Award with bread, and they will see later today, just how bad it is in Haiti after grace, exit out we'll watch sad and still I had right here on morning, Joe former national security adviser, a term at master will join. As two way and on the Talibans takeover of Afghan Stan and how it impacts? U S interests all this morning that a real health experts are coalescing around the idea that moves Americans will need covert, Brewster shops plus pediatric infections, cunt and you to rise of thirteen

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Ella died and after more than seventy five students and love and staff members tested positive, recovered the school changed course and required. Masks Mikhail us teach others say she was loved by all. She was an honour student and played in the school banned the day before her death, Mississippi Governor, Tate, Reeves downplayed, the impact of the virus on children. If you look at those individuals under the age of twelve, what you find is that It is very rare. Their kids under the age of twelve have anything other than the sniffles. Does it happen from time to time sure does Cervantes that's on him coming up Pentagon press secretary, John Kirby standing by he joins us to discuss. What's next for afghan partners in Kabul morning, Joe is cut back in a moment.

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this is why flag they put their flock. Everybody is absent especially women. Let me say with all respect that that I understand- and we all understand the the anxiety in the fear and the pain that you're feeling its its clear and its evident, and nobody here the Pentagon is happy about the images that we ve seen coming out three days and we're all mindful of the governs governance that the Taliban is capable of afghan reporter. Looking for answers from the Pentagon spoke, person after the. U S withdrew from that country and the Taliban took over and joining us now Pentagon, press secretary, John Kirby, thank you so much for me this morning that no thank you so much for being with us this morning,

Obviously you you saw that Afghan reporter, who is upset. I know you have also heard from a lot of men and women in the military. Former have been upset. A quote this morning from the New York Times from a sergeant. First, class it's a pain I thought I'd get used to. I sacrificed a lot saw death every year, as I served with, we knew would probably come to an end like this, but decided in chaos makes us angry after everything we gave. I just wish there had been a way to leave with honour what what do you say to all the men and women and uniform your band of brothers and sisters. It served alongside with through the years who feel betrayed this morning by administration on the first, We would says to thank them for their years of service and sacrifice in the

danger. They were willing to put themselves in at to improve conditions in Afghanistan and prevent that place from becoming a terrorist safe haven. The second thing that we say is that we understand that we all understand, but don't do four minutes hit me personally either? It is absolutely I lost a friend there, the wheel, I understand that the each of you each veteran is gonna have to process this in their own way, and we respect that some to be angry. Some we're gonna be said there is a range of emotions that that all of us are going through as we watch these images and as we put finnish pulling out. A country, but what's important here for so the Pentagon, and this is what I would say not only to veterans but to the rest. The american people is it we. We remain committed to completing this, draw down in a safe and orderly way and to doing what we and to get as many of our can citizens out, as well as as many of those interpreters and translators who helped You do your jobs on the battlefield work we know. We have an obligation to them and we're going.

really hard in the coming weeks to get as many of them out of the country as we can. We're gonna ask about that in a minute, but First Leon, Panada, former secretary of defence, former dry. The CIA said it struck me that they were just crossing their fingers and hoping chaos would not result. It doesn't work that way. Is that a fair assessment? Given the amount of chaos and Americans and people across the world have seen over the past twenty four hours. It does not seem that every contingency was planned for doesn't seem. Hardly as if hardly any contingencies were we were playing for. What would you the Secretary Panada and all those who thought the Bite administration was caught. Flight, footed What I can say Joe, is that we ve been planning for non combatants. Evacuation duration, since, as far back as May, right after the president made it

ouch meant that he was going to withdraw its troops back in April. In fact, we held a big drill here. The Pentagon downstairs in the in the joint racial centre with the entire area interagency to walk through what the retrograde was. Gonna. Look like the withdraw, as well as including the possibility for These kinds of evacuation operations are just as recently as two weeks ago, we held a table topic says here the Pentagon too, to walk through what it would look like to do exactly what we're doing now, which is a non combatants evacuation operation from how cars are international airport. Now, look we plan for also, every continues year, the Pentagon, but as it is an old military maxim, says no plans to rise. First contact so obviously how do I just in the moment, and it would have been difficult to pay. for the level of mayhem and chaos we saw there were mindful of the images of the geographic nature of them. Certainly, nobody wanted to see it result like it did over them twenty four hours, but now we have more force.

On the ground and we have begun to secure the the tarmac The north side of the airport is back up and running again with military aircraft, purely seems to be better at the southern side, although we will be working on that throughout the day? So look we plan. a lotta contingencies, but no plan is ever perfect and no plan can be perfectly predictive in terms of what friction. What what unknown aspects and factors you're going to deal with on the backside, Admiral Kirby good morning. It's really guys a lot of people have taken issue with that idea that the Pentagon plan all contingencies as something that President Biden said yesterday in his remarks from the White House. When you look at those scenes yesterday, planning for that contingency to most people would have looked like Getting our allies getting those interpreters out before, say. We left Margaret Airborne Base a couple of months ago before the american troops, should we not have secured all those people who helped America over the last twenty years before our troops left, we

work on this issue of special armor, get visas with the state Department from a very early part, the spring. As you know, that is a that is a process that can be fairly lengthy, but we ve been here with the state department. We stood up. A taskforce shared the Pentagon in early July to help feed into the state department processes is something that we ve been focused on the Pentagon, for a while, but it is in there. There are a lot of them and there's a vetting since it has to occur. As I said, we are working really are now to make sure we get as many of them out as we can. We ve already taken out of the country more than two thousand some of those have been placed here at Fort Lyon. Virginia others are going straight in two to relocate. in centres are around the country to do that. Non governmental organisations are helping them open and place them in the country. I guess the question people have is: why not take care of that

you're all these people and ensure their safety before american troops lap, even if it meant keeping that small footprint of american troops there for a little bit longer. Well, look A small footprint that we had, you know really was due to be out by May first and if we didn't get it out by May first to tell them made it clear that they were going to start attacking. group so that the choice for the current or achieve was either. I plus the troops because they're going to come under fire, so we have to do and increase, or we observe the agreement and get out What we got to do was get out, but on an extended time line, and we had to do their quickly and we will go back to your question on speed, speed with safety We had to move our troops out as fast as possible because we had to assume that this draw down was be contested by the Taliban at any given moment. Admiral still seems feels jarring and hard to understand and what was the worsening situation in Afghanistan? How many troops were there that it

still not enough and not stable, because the White House, explaining this saying we would have had to engage more. and that was something that President Biden was not going to do doesn't seem to merit what we saw yesterday, chaos at the airport, people hanging off planes falling to their deaths Yet look it's again those images or are disturbing and heartbreaking. No question about that and you know I'd be, and if I said we perfectly predicted the level of panic that was happen. At the airport we had a small footprint on around twenty five hundred women restoration came into office and they were doing a very good job at helping with stable stability and security and advising in assisting Afghan national. Harry forces, but they weren't coming under attack by the Taliban because it Doha agreement. If we had boasted that agreement, we couldn't have counted on that after May. First vote

would have been very much in harm's way, much more than they already were, and we believe that that would have required a plus up of troops. Look in you could you could argue that you could plus up troops for ever and just stay in Afghanistan forever, but the commander in chief determine that that was not sustainable, that that was not acceptable, and so we, And to draw down, we had to do it in a quick way, because again we couldn't trust the Taliban. Would you couldn't trust it there? that they wouldn't attack us. So we move quickly to get those troops drawn down Pentagon press second, John Kirby. Thank you very much for being on this mornin explaining this in the way the nine eleven attacks, hundreds of people recorded their stories Building was bleeding into the sky, cried out to choose and I asked him to just help me. Twenty years later, the same voices return time doesn't kill, doesn't fix things, but time makes the trauma less sharp memory, but a ghost nine eleven

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