Reason most People- America, not worry about Polio Smallpox Measle months from rubella today, is because I see is the threat of. Delta virus remains real, but we are prepared. We have the tools. We can do this, That was President Biden tripling down and vaccines pushing for a third shot. Americans. Some covered nineteen Wigan be talking to the. U S, in general just ahead good morning and work in the morning, Joe Thursday August Nineteenth Meek, has the morning off Willie alive in the news, as usual, Lastly, in addition, a covert nineteen President Biden isn't reiterating his defence of history into withdraw american troops from Afghanistan. In a new interview with ABC News, the present argues some of their care we ve seen was inevitable. Adding troops stay in Afghanistan, till all

considerations are out of the country we ve got a pair of reports. First from envy Kelly, O Donnell and then from NBC Richard angle in Kabul. A shilling assessment, the! U S Military does not have sufficient forces too. You, Americans, who cannot get to the Kabul Airport evacuation point rejoinder. Will you go on collective large numbers of people in the EU? is relying on the Taliban to let Americans and afghan allies pass through checkpoints to reach the airport or whisky journey view with ABC News. President Biden He knew chaos, as was inevitable. We're gonna go by in hindsight look, but the idea it somehow There is a way to have got not without chaos. Suing I don't What happens? Pentagon says the pace of evacuations is improving. Still not adequate, pressed about

stranded Americans, the President said if necessary, troops would remain beyond the August. Thirty first withdrawal deadline of theirs Citizens left we're gonna stay get them all out the administration Said: U S? Intelligence consistently identified the risk of a rapid collapse, general Milly insisted. Those predictions were fool weeks or months? There was nothing Did I- or anyone else saw did indeed It had a collapse of this army and this government eleven days. The? U S: late. Evacuation is finally moving quickly and smoothly from the military side of Kabul Airport planes arriving in and departing around the clock. It's a far cry from the Bedlam Monday when thousands of Afghans broke into the airport so desperate to escape the Taliban, they clung onto deporting aircraft

Now more american troops have been brought in for security. Today, we watch troops, get ready for a patrol, their relax, U S forces may be doing this for several more days or even weeks group we met were no visa somebody Bromus ok? I will give you tomorrow day after tomorrow, so did they met with the State Department official who says they're working on getting flights for them and the others who work on the base. Along with their families, we saw hundreds of Afghans being processed to start new, but still on certain lives. While this base is now much more orderly, much more secure, the biggest problem is getting because outside the perimeter the Taliban are in control of the? U S, literary ask them to keep back the crowd, but the Taliban are doing it their way.

Firing in the air. Sometimes, beating Afghans who try to approach in Jalalabad Afghans demonstrated carrying try colored afghan flag, saying it represents them, not the Taliban black witnesses, say the Taliban opening fire killing ITALY three demonstrate Afghanistan's new I'm dead letter arrived in the country moving through the Taliban stronghold City of Kandahar, Hizbollah, Abdel honey but other he was deputy leader of the Taliban when it hosted and protected Osama Bin Laden, while, while he plodded nine eleven former secretary of state, might palm Pale signed a peace deal with him under President Trump Ideal Press. in Biden, implemented rapidly pulling out american troops triggering the rapid collapse of the afghan army and the Talibans rapid table. Richard angle, NBC News come

That's where the White House, in bringing NBC News, corresponding Josh, Letterman so Jack. We heard the President of George Step and yesterday that Americans, stay in Afghanistan as long as it took to get every American out of that country, even if it means staying longer than the August. Thirty first deadline we did get update overnight of just how many people have been actuated by the United States, thus far, how many is it and how far we have to go here?

into the White House. In the most recent twenty four hour period, Willie, they were able to get out another eighteen hundred people that brings the total since August, fourteenth to six thousand people. They ve been able to evacuate that are getting up to speed now several thousand per day that still short of what President Biden, other officials have spoken about in terms of being able to get out five thousand people a day, even more possibly seven thousand a day. President Biden Toil George Stephan Opposites, but look officials also acknowledge that this is really an hour to hour situation in their ability to be able to do. This really rests on whether they are going to get continued cooperation from the Taliban to let folks shoe the airport for these evaluations because, as you heard from Richard Angles report there, there have been no sporadic incidents, it's been difficult to figure out exactly minute two minute whether people are able to make safe passage to the airport, the? U S, military, clearly unable to really take on that task. In addition to securing the airport and running those evacuation flights, and amid all of this, you know continuing questions about how people are supposed to get to cobble if there in other parts of the country from which they also need to be evacuated. So that is all on the table, as even the solution tries to ramp up this effort, they are still facing increasing questions and concerns from capital, Helen elsewhere, with Republicans now demanding a classified grieving for the gang of eight, the president. He is here at the White House. We do expect that at ten a m today, he will meet with his national security in this situation to get an update not only on the military aspects of what's happening on the ground in Kabul, but also the political and diplomatic angles of what the? U S is continuing to try to do with the Taliban now firmly and control of Ghana stand. We do not expect the president to make any remarks during that meeting, so it's possible. We may not hear from him today on Afghanistan, Willie,

As you say, it's difficult just to get those people who want to evacuate to Kabul, given the fact that countries completely under Taliban control right now and MRS Josh Letterman. Thank you very much said Joe. We saw yesterday again President Biden Defiant and defend of its policy in the decisions he's made. Despite what we ve over the last four days right in the lie that really succour to a lot of people who watch that was when the president said. Chaos was inevitable. Lotta the entire community, or suggesting otherwise in spring and right now, Washington, advertising media, caddy, K and also columnist an associate editor of the Washington Post David Ignatius, hey David talk about that chaos, was inevitable line from the stuff Annapolis Interview yesterday and really the EL communities reaction to that, there seems to be back and forth between the entire community. The d o d right now and everybody I've spoken than they entail community over that over the last three days, say:

no way we're not going to be blamed for something that we ve been warning about all along joke cast as inevitable. If you start laid and you dont devote sufficient resources and then you have a cat situation were seeing a classic demonstration now of what the military can and cannot do once you pulled out garrison that she had heavily maintained, adultery for a day is able to keep water. Keep early flower planes and people in them Terry side of the airport, but when we talk about the gates and outside the gates, the most we re invasion of Afghanistan and this not surprising that no and sector defence. Austin say that's just not possible with their there. They are not in a position to reinvent the country and de the safe access might my

since, as I talk to people in the White House, watch these folks on tv is that really shall shocked. This is a kind of defeat while a reversal that these folks I have never known and their wives. These are people who ve never gotten a bad graven school and suddenly they find the world collapsing around them and it's been really really difficult for them. That's to deal with us, its overwhelming Every other issue for the White House. You call and ask what any other thing that was in processor are being planned, and no focus right now is on Afghanistan period that I think that that they hope that process of getting people out, of airlift. You know playin after plain running, that shutting down the runway, encourage people to freedom will give us a somewhat better taste one issue but there are struggling with his where these people gonna go on any law

term basis there trying to get allies to agree to take larger number of afghan refugees, but they're getting some push back on that a lot of our closest allies. Who basically say this? Isn't our problem with is a limited capacity to what we can do. We have to make political problems we take too many. Afghans are certainly true in Europe, so it's it's it's it's been a pain for you could see it with present by than this defensiveness, almost breathless he's trying to talk tough, the buck stops here it chaos was baked in hazardous farm presidential, wise leadership, but even when within the White House. After people wish, she was being more compassionate speaking, more the human suffering that he's seen around them than to live tat first and resolute. None of his own decision making more than a strategic loss militarily. What I'm hearing from elected leaders here

foreign leaders across the globe, diplomats, foreign policy leaders in Washington and Ghana, The world is This is more than a strategic defeat for the United States It is a diplomatic. Their fate is reputational defeat than I had one later from the Middle EAST yesterday, who had very little use for Donald Trump Presidency in the chaos that brought by saying asking me: do you really think that way? thinking America is back. Do you really think that that that so that America's reputation is any better. Now that was one year ago, making reference to win. Donald Trump was in office. Suggesting that that the United States reputation has suffered yet again,

I'll just you all use a word. A catastrophic globally among our allies, what a change from June and that G7 meeting Right Joe when there was a kind of triumphant re entry into the world by Joe Biden that he was welcomed with open arms so the European Union, at the G7 in Cornwall, and they rule delighted to see Biden back in America back in the game and what your hearing totally quickly. Now, from allies right across Europe Mps in the UK conservative Mps standing up in parliament saying that are ashamed, that the? U S commander in chief, is blaming Afghan. Some of they fought alongside and not taking any blame. this himself really spare urging comments in public from the NATO allies about the? U S, performance here and I think more brutal, The concern is an and I've lived here. For alone.

I'm and to some extent, I have always bore the argument that the? U S: intelligence, community, military performance nationals, purity operation writ large could do what it needed to do around the world that it was effective, that it was powerful that it was competent, and I think for those of to believe that the world is better off when Erika is strong and healthy and engaged to see level of incompetence that we saw in the very first stages this operation will really worrying, because if they got there so wrong. What else might get wrong around the world and those are the kinds of questions and conversations I'm having with diplomat, some of whom are Lee had already being questioning the national security team of this White House. earlier. Earlier than they were in the Biden presidency, I was surprised to hear a couple of european Amber

sit, as here in Washington, say to me. You know it's interesting. They also really smart and they ve all got. The right grades is David, says, but listen to their allies on an issue like IRAN, for example, where one ambassador I spoke to has an awful lot of background on this. He says I can't get them too gauge a tool that not interested a tall in what allies have to say- and I kind of so well that doesn't really jive with competence with seeing the vaccine roll out, but I'm I'm listening again to those conversations now think you will. Maybe that was already something there, but I think it's the lack of competence. it must carry operation and how it was handled. The whole withdrawal from from coal that is really shaken America's allies at the moment. So David reason, so the President saying that this chaos was inevitable, saying that it George definite was Yesterday we also General Milly, the chairman of the joint chief saying it was Idly estimated in his words that the two

a ban, would roll back through the country. He said we didn't think would happen and eleven days, but estimates range from weeks on two may be even year. So it sounds like from the very top of the government. There was a concession that this was and it happened at some point. So was there no consideration of preventing that for thing by keeping a small force in the country, or do they just say, look when Her we leave. This is going to happen, so we might as well leave now there was consideration of it, but that's precisely the option that the President Biden in the end rejected he pretty strenuous advice from general away from Sir a general Scott Miller whose are commander in Kabul. Knowers words, I've told were, if, if you pull these twenty five hundred troops out, it's gonna be there, and it's gonna be fast. You don't want to. or the fast meant. You know what

two weeks or six weeks, but that's not the point relates is the point: is that by told what the consequences of this action would be significant And that there is every likelihood that the cobbler government would fall, it was weak. It was currently divided and increasingly that the predictions were there in that it wouldn't survive. Biden decided to go ahead anyway, felt so strongly that there's time then this mission- and he wanted to be the tough present, the boy stocks with them and he's gonna make the decision that no other president had been prepared to make so keep saying gonna pasts onto a fifth president? But but I d Thank the military and other other parts of the government were able to To get him, the focus of the Vienna see to focus on the realities of getting Americans out the only way to keep this withdrawal, something that Americans can be proud of this to take the people who depended on us out with us. Everybody knew that it was repeated,

in the weeks and months, but both before this, and they more unable to one. When I shall gonna came to Washington several months oh. He said please, please don't make early preparations for withdrawal of Americans and and the people who depended on euro caused panic. Please don't do that. Officials, Insisted that the that didn't determine their policy, but it always she had some effect because there because they were slow slowly getting this organised and now I think this is crushing sense of having one country down having left these afghan people who depend on sit down and they know how this plays in the database see the whole world is watching the same images, adding for white Ass, the prize itself, one being Smart being competent, getting things done, this isn't trump anymore. This is the guys have come in this is a crushing week. I think. A lot of military leaders have said keeping burger.

Air base under american control until everyone was out of country, would have been an important yeah, but we left that base we're gonna come back to Afghanistan in just a moment. We do want to turn to another crisis. here at home with a delta variant, stunting progress against the pandemic. By the administration is employing new strategies to fight the virus like encouraging booster shots for most vaccinated Americans and now mandating vaccines for nursing homes, staff and b C news. Correspondent, Miguel Armagh AIR has the latest making it official the first booster shots for the general public will go the armed September, twenty after the FDA, CDC sign off most adult fully vaccine for at least eight months, will qualify a top priority. Protecting health. or workers, nursing home residents and sinners who were vaccinated first, the booster shot a third dose of the same for me an vaccine for those

fully inoculated with Pfizer or Madonna. It will be easy to show vaccination, cardio gotta booster, for though vaccinated with Johnson in jobs in a booster will likely be needed, but for now they are simply not enough. Data citing multiple study, with a variety of date, ranges the CDC release, complex charts and bar grass containing vaccine data on Pfizer and Madonna, but the take away is simple overtime, vaccine efficacy against infection has declined, meaning your chances of catching the virus increase, still effectiveness against hospitalization, while slightly decreasing remains relatively high. Perhaps the biggest concern the threat. delta this graph showing a significant drop in efficacy. We are concerned that this pattern, It's fine we're seeing will continue in the months ahead which could lead to reduce protection against it.

Disease, Hospitalization India, while the fully backs We still have a layer of protection. The CDC estimates likely near the eighth month mark after inoculation, antibody levels decline, saying a booster increases them by at least ten fold. Like meantime, the present using federal leverage to mandate nursing homes to vaccinate staff amid a rash of new infections he's also ready to fight governors who were banning mask mandates in school? I am directing the sector education educator himself to take additional staff to protect our children. This thing glued using all of his oversight, authorities and legal action, if appropriate, with the country still struggling give even the first stone to some eighty five million Americans Authority say the booster roll out will be much smoother than the original rushed to get shots, never mentioning the need. For me,

vaccination sites, the White House, says eighty thousand locations nation wide will be ready, including forty thousand local farmers, This is no time to let our guard down. We just need finish the job our nation planning for tomorrow, as we all face an uncertain future Caddy, almost two hundred million people have been vaccinated. We see the results of that in its it is I think there are break through cases, but still a small percentage of breakthrough cases. The small print just side effects. It really is a pretty good. The White House is moving forward the way they are here, but it still surprising at this late date. With that two very going around that the Gulf still hasn't required vaccines for We working in nursing homes and glad the president's moving that direction for everybody,

working in a hospital. She looked states like Florida and taxes, their war zones around the hospital side. Me it's it's it's really. It's it's gotten more just crazy by the day and in those two states in a lot of lot of hospitals, lot of emergency rooms were, there aren't bad. Some people are trying to get in that they want Have these vaccine requirements for pilots for flight attendants for people on aeroplanes just wonder why the White House, why leave don't move forward and just go ahead and make that a nation wide requirement. It's not like their purse, labels left here. It's it's going to be. Those mandate set are going to get enough people vaccinated that will find lay at the end of the day, drive down the covert numbers.

yeah and they are moving in that direction. With things like the nursing homes in the nursing homes historically have actually had a surprising. high number of employees who are not vaccinated, even though their working with vulnerable In the end, the healthcare industry, but you're right on the question of hospitals, why should somebody have to go to hospital? I'm up again somebody's not vaccinated. We anecdotally We are hearing reports of paramedics, for example, of turning up in saying. Well, no, I believe in God, but I don't think and- and I pray my faith and I It's gonna, be enough for me and my family, and it's it's you're not going to work in a healthcare sitting where you got vulnerable people coming in already right on the persuadable and the truck with a boost. The thing is: we know that everybody who, is vaccinated is can we happen to get the boost and you- and I will be totally queuing up tomorrow morning if we need to be to get that booster. It still not gonna help you with that a huge number of the population that is non vaccinated. What there is one example

in France, they started mandating that you had to have vaccines and the two access, cinemas, restaurants, any kind of transport you had to be show proof of vaccine and they sort of uptake in numbers of people. They have quite a high rate of vaccine hesitancy. actually in a couple of weeks after that they suddenly had a surge of people wanting to get vaccinated, so does work if you give people that incentive. If you You can't work. Carry you can't traveller you can go to the cinema is that there are risks on your life, if you don't get a vaccine, then it does seem to work there. Examples around the world of working that it gets people over that hesitancy threshold that they gonna to move something because if we still carry on just with the people who even having the booster, those people being vaccinated, you're gonna have this split tree. What you ve got a pandemic amongst them vaccinated and those people who are vaccinated are ok. one thing that should be made clear is: what's the goal? Is the goal to keep people out a hospital or is the goal to stop positive cases?

because at the moment the vaccines are keeping people out of hospital and that's the question that the debate show and other countries have about. Should America, giving this booster. Now when it still, people are still being kept out of hospital when there are so many people around the world who haven't had a chance to have even their first show, let's break the conversation Doktor Peter Hotels, he is dean of the National school of tropical medicine, bail or college of Medicine and CO, director of the Texas children Hospital Centre for vaccine development. He also was the author of the book preventing the next panda vaccine diplomacy in a time of anti signs, Doc hotels good morning, it's great to have you with us. Let me start with the booster. This is something that you and other experts have said, was coming. What have we learned about this virus and about this vaccine that now requires a boost. Your shot at this point while overseeing Willie is a decline in ineffectiveness of the vaccine, and a lot of the studies are coming out of Israel, one out of the Mayo clinic showing that it

against infection. The f, the effectiveness of the vaccine, is gone down from over ninety percent to forty to fifty percent so far, its key being a pretty well in terms of peace, keeping people out of the hospital. But I think the word is that what that decline from ninety to forty percent, which is pretty significant decline that that's a tip the spear we'll start seeing a pretty precipitous the rise in hospitalizations among vaccinated individuals, nor even hearing anecdotes from physicians, that ten twenty percent of their hospitalized patients are vaccinated. So you know it's not too surprising, given the fact that when we rolled out these vaccines, they were Given our three d, week interval between first and second dose. That's how the face three trials were done, and that was done for a very good reason. If you remember back in December and January, we're losing three thousand american lives a day and and the crisis, and so we had to get people fully immunized in his quick, a time as possible that it made sense and it actually

a lot of lies, but the trade off was by doing that short interval, three to four weeks, you get a big declining durability and length of protection, and so in some ways that kind of seal that that this is going to be a three three immunization vaccine and we ve got a large population in this country, people under twelve children who were even eligible for the first shot of the vaccine, you ve been sounding the alarm about what may be ahead this far, because of that. What should we expect as we look toward this. Here are some of the countries back to school. A lot of it is not yet. What do you see on the road ahead?. Well right here in the south, where I am things are looking pretty grim in a interweave even before, who has opened and, for instance, Houston, independent school district, opens in a few days on August. Twenty third were already seeing a lot of kids. Now lessons and young people go into the hospital in even pediatric intensive care units, but you ve never seen before, and the fact that in a week with the law

the leaders of the executive leaders of states here, if you know, have blocked blocked. Had a mass mandates, and certainly nobody is talking about a vaccine mandate for the twelve enough, which is ridiculous, and course we should do that. So we really set up our kids to fail so we're already seeing schools open. You know that just ignore all that stuff, we're gonna be fine, and then they close up a few days later, because there's so much cove it- and I know I don't see how things good differently, unfortunately in the south, so nobody put policies in place to ensure that our kids could successfully complete in person learning this fallen and all they did was stamped their feet and say no mandates without putting policies in place to protect our kids and quickly. Doktor hope how far aware we from that vaccine for children, twelve and under, I think we'll definitely had their later in the fall I don't know that will have a by the by the by the end of this year, I'm hoping we do and that will

things a little easier as well. But again, if you look in here in the south, fewer than twenty five percent of the adolescent twelve to seventeen year olds, I have been vaccinated and I would imagine one of the younger kids. It's going to be even worse, so essentially none of the adolescence or are vaccinated here in the southern part of the United States that we have the sun even balkanization, it's too big for that it's the whole. The whole southern part of the United States is in defiance against vaccines, and it's having such a self defeating affect Dr Hotel, sailor College of Medicine Doctor who has always great having the show thanks so much Joe, You know I David Ignatius. Facts don't seem to matter to a lot of people. I talk to hear of you. You can listen to him talking about vaccine mandates on American, its unconstitutional. This is not who we are. You then

the fact that sad factors, eggs vaccine mandates before they were allowed to go to school. You remind them that their children, all four or five of their children, had five or six vaccines and that they had to have their vaccine quote past to get in the school and Are you again you just wonder why we just do that as a country. We ve done it time and again and curious about what went: your hearing about the military and its requirement, because I have a example of a family whose vaccine hesitant there from the south there trumped supporters, and there's one member that family, whose vaccine and he's in the United States military there is a lot of squawking beforehand and I'm gonna quit now not get away to get it. Ok, he get them, saying because is laudable. that's will tell you they had to get a ton of vaccines before they, whatever see so

I wondering about the Pentagon roll out and if that is it a good example, for This government to take with the rest of the country joy. I share your view that mandating vaccine use. It is just that the basics of public health. We do it for children, with polio with moms with measles. For the longest time the military was reluctant to mandate to vaccination. I can remember talking with sent comp commanders in the in the heart of the battle space and surprisingly, small percentage of them were vaccinated, even even though they were. I do with wire to be there stated for anthrax, which is really a worse vaccination, they were, they were blocking it. vaccinated fur for four covered

now seems to be changing. The most unaltered takes the lead in this, as so often in our country. Other parts Saudi may fall along, I hope so the strange thing to me Joe? Is that somehow resisted to vaccination, got tied up with our american tradition, which adds some with a phrase, don't tread on me. Tread on me? Don't vaccinate me, don't matter Me me. They all became expressions of american individualism in a way that was especially counterproductive and dangerous to our health. How that happened. I am still going to understand, but I think that's a part of it is our american character for some people, especially in the south Little South, cited that I'm I'm an american and I'm not gonna get vaccinated we had actually dieters its.

Oh, I was sorry well. I was just going to say that we have for the Republican Party for conservatives, there's always ban The individual and the state and this is this given take between the individual and the state. Conservatives, believing that this step should be smaller than individual rights would be stronger than Willie. For the past twenty thirty years we have seen, this hyper individualism move to such a degree that there's there's no balance Xo balance between individual with with freedoms guaranteed by the constitution. And being selfish and and this hyper individualism, we see it in in every phase of American Debate, and It is. It is balkan rising our country, everybody focusing

on themselves individually, you can say that also parts of the illiberal laughed as well There is still there still is an american community that the epidermis Yoda means out of many one we'll get everybody hyper focused on the many I'm the one of of of three hundred twenty million? Would not getting to the second part of that? Where out of many wine, and that I for individualism, really doesn't work when you're talking, but a pandemic, and when you're talking about public health and one weren't you argue about what you're doing by not getting acceleration because of some some, you conceived view on a hyper individualism and and getting had information day after day after day on these vaccines. What you're doing. Is

you're lying down your community, your letting down your country, your letting down your friends, your letting down your neighbours, because the friends and neighbors, whom You go to the hospital who may need to go to the emergency room who may need to get a bad, and I see you across a lot of states. I grew up in Georgia Alabama Mississippi, Northwest Florida those. I say you beds are fall. and their filled with on vaccinated American. So this lie. this lie, that is, it is. It is burned by hyper individualism. That I can do what I want to do and it doesn't effect anybody, but me shut. Not true it's affecting your neighbors. It's a fact in your community, its affecting your friends and loved ones who are sick? Who need go to the hospital they can't in many cases, because

I see you, birds and the emergency rooms are jammed, packed with envy native Americans case leaders have tried to make matches government leaders or public health officials, but trusted leaders in a lot of these states in communities is actually the vaccination and actually the mask are the path to freedom. Contra to the argument that their abridging, your freedom, if we get through this thing, then you get back to work. Kids get back to school, you get to Philip College Football stadiums again all the things you wanna be doing, but unfortunately, as you have said many times, that argument those arguments even from people who are trusted are drowned out by what they see a lot of guys bridge on wine and a lot of what they hear on. innovation and on the radio we're gonna put some of these questions to the United States. Surgeon general vivid Murphy, as the binding administration pushes new strategies to get Americans vaccinated against corona virus, but first Parents has a check on some severe weather bill good morning when you look at it.

Good morning, where lay the big headline is New England, has a chance to get hit by a hurricane on Sunday. For the first time, in thirty years, it's not edged installed, but its possibilities, let's get into it. First, with what we're dealing with. What's left with friends, doesnt heavy rain, pushing through the North EAST and new women when morning came from Harvard the bottom is going to be very slow because of the heavy rain. There is still some flash flooding from this storm in the central portions of New York near Syracusan Cortland in Utica. We could seize medicinal flash flooding, in areas of remind New Hampshire during the day, maybe one two three inches of rainfall from what's left of red, and then this all be exiting this evening's and now, let's get to on re this store now is safely harmlessly over. The open waters of the Atlantic came between Bermuda in Florida, Windsor at seventy miles per hour. So it's almost a hurricane. This is the new forecast, the hurricanes are safely off. The coasts of the Carolinas then on Sunday becoming dangerously close to Nantucket Cape COD, martyrs vineyard and then kind of you lifting there in the gulf of me. They do have it going up to it

the gray one hurricane Saturday and Sunday then slowly weakening as it approaches this close in New England, Boston, Portland and the coast of main is in the kind of uncertainty, and these squiggly white lines will watch them over the next couple days. These are our computer models, different computers, showing us where they think this where was going to go notice. Some of them are even in to Rhode, Island and Connecticut. A few of them are right. Over areas like Nantucket so obviously will watch his closely in the days ahead. Three days away from the possibility of a hurricane in New England, the last one. By the way, nineteen Ninety one hurricane Bob! that was a long time ago, what a beautiful sunrise this morning in Washington DC after a rainy stormy day yesterday here in for a treat today,

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our alone on top of the wild card, standing at incredible to play by the last case from the Bronx grace by raising their to end the game. Five to Yankee went so they are alone. The aid also lost last night, so you believe at New York Yankees one game up on both the aids in the Red Sox and moving Pass come up the standards all of it, the razor so strong with the Yankees are right. There I ve been right. These deals in zero illegal line up who taught This was coming well, it was like lamp or room. I had my I'd put my mirror up about a month ago. I told you this day was coming. Did I not You did all, though you I would remind you, are tied to still be in the wild card. You are in the playoffs right now so zone despair too much We are working on a road that my Vill Red Sox, where the mud ville Red Sox, there's no joy in Boston.

Well me another. Some mouse gonna Joe we gotta talk about on the West Coast, show hey O tiny, who is taken baseball by storm this year Jane his major League leading fortieth home run of the seas, and last night in Detroit is the first tat. An hitter enfranchise history to reach forty home runs. Passing Reggie J since total and eighty two, but that's not all the two way sensation returned to the mound completed eight prominent earnings to lead the way to a three one: win autonomy continues build his case for the American. we again Bp Award and frankly, who else could it be said Joe? He hits forty home runs incompletely shuts down the tiger Is it just? It's never been done before people talk about Babe Ruth. He did this for a while. Now. standard at the level of Chinese. Do it this year now, I was going to say you did say we ve never seen this before

certainly in our lifetime is an understatement. Nobody's seen it since I guess Babe Ruth was doing it in the tens in the early twenties but, like you said, even bay Ruth wasn't doing it at this level. Just ass, an extraordinary achievement that every time that guy goes on the mound every time he swings is bad, it's a boy and in some that's really energized baseball to Jack, whose a big red Sox fan, all year has as written following o tawny and new ones. It wants to be a pitcher and and any good hit, or now it's really. He is what story of four major League baseball yeah. A great magnetic star has jerseys the number one seller and what it takes to be a pitch that level and major league baseball is almost impossible and then to be a hitter of that level. Simultaneously, it's impossible, but he's doing it

I'm not going to turn back to our big story overseas, the associate editor for the financial times at loose joins. With his latest peace, Afghanistan and the tragic word. On post nine eleven America and will explain when morning, joke comes right back but the next morning, Joe Journeys now Wall Street Journal report covering foreign affairs and national Security, Jessica, Donati she's, author of the book, Eagle down the last special forces fighting me forever war. Also with us. You, national edited the financial times at least good morning to you about that. I want to start with your latest peace, title Afghanistan and the tragic verdict on Post nine. Eleven American the peace you write. This quote rarely have so many lives and so much Cashman spent and so little it would be nice to think. U S, politics will learn from this debacle, and both parties are complicit, but the story

far from over America may have quit this forever. but it will go on. There will be little time Post mortem says we come to grips with the implications of a rebooted Taliban at each point: host nine, eleven story- big. U S! Decisions have been based on conditions on the ground. The ground in Washington that is, after nine lead, each. U S party chose one country as their target Nation building Republicans picked. A rack. Democrats chose Afghanistan. This point was settled by domestic politics rather than conditions abroad. The tragedy is that history will continue with or without America So ed you call this tragedy what's happening. There is no question. These images we ve been saying for the last four or five days are just that What are the long term and short term implications of what's happening right now? Pay one. It's true mainly MSNBC corresponded and host the podcast into America.

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being behind its resurgence in the last few weeks and months and sustaining it out over the last twenty years, a terrible, these are increasingly talent but eyes. Pakistan is a deep concern national security is concerned by the United States, but is also one. Its allies and partners in the region and in Europe. I think that if you look the withdrawal from Iraq, Two thousand and eleven the Obama administration, the vacuum that that left, which, has led to the rise of ice and then sucked the United States. I came to the region into Iraq and to Syria isn't anything is kind. As a parallel, if anything, a better situation than what we face today, because Iraq at least had a sovereign. table. Semi legitimate government afghan Taliban

to behave in this way. International actor norms that we seem from Iraq. So I think The situation and the potential vacuum is worse, Jessica, question forty from David Ignatius David, just guy. Why, when I asked you about the eagle down your your new book and the special forces. Fighting the forever worry measure is your title subtitle tell us a little bit about what what these worsened men for the special forces they bore the brunt of so much of the difficult fighting. Didn't they didn't currently damaged when you think they're feeling. Now, as they look at this tragic ending in Afghanistan, I mean I think the problem is that all of this was avoidable. In the special up nations community, its well known that this?

just have been all that has really held Afghanistan together for the past few years and that's very much the subjective but come looking closely at what these soldiers have been doing on the ground, starting from the first. Operation to save the city of Kunduz, which fell in twenty fifteen cents? and these soldiers have been constantly out there on the front lines they haven't received any credit where an acknowledgment, the government- and this has been frustrating for them for two reasons one of them is because season, Washington have not really reflected the realities that these people have experienced and, second of all, their fight a war that the rest of the nation at knows nothing about. There These are increasingly isolated because in there today lives. The average American has no idea what family members are doing, and widows often describe their husbands dying in wars that people had barely nowhere even still going on.

and indeed designations really quickly back to you, you, you went and and and love and reported on the special forces in Syria. who were holding back, the Iranians who are holding back the Syrians who were holding back ISIS who were holding back the Russians who, doing an extraordinary job with a small footprint and you said that they were all in, believed in their mission. Extraordinary what an incredible job they were doing but, as you know, As an aside, we shall we the democratic president pulling everybody out of Iraq. Isis goes in there. We have a republican present pulling these some forces who are doing extraordinary job in Syria with a light footprint There now we have a democratic president, pulling link special forces and pulling the these men and women out of Afghanistan that people,

were doing an extraordinary job with a light. Footprint and being a doubt in creating this stating void so joy. I think one of the lessons of this period is contrary to what we're feeling right now is that the application of power through small sustainable smell forces missions like what we saw in Syria, northeast were the special forces working Small evaded allies took part. Ice is just just took it down forces working with the Iraqi counter Terrorism service took ice, down and more so tough fighting just a real battle. So we see the Afghan unaltered. the vanishing not fighting, but but the heads trust of special forces

in Afghanistan, obscure Jessica's book tells us that that story, you ve done a job, so we should not lose sight of some sick. Second advances, I think, and our ability to project power with few people and of relatively limited loss of life, it's one of the legacies of this peer, though autumn negative ones, but that to me would be a positive one and an caddy K. That is extraordinary legacy over the past twenty years for all the tragedy. we have seen in the EU s foreign policy Twenty years ago, we thought we had sent a hundred and fifty thousand two hundred thousand troops in the country. to maintain order now we're learning how to do it with a light footprint. The biggest problem is because conditions on the ground in Washington. As Ed says, these light footprints. The these small numbers of forces were making a huge difference in in pushing back the bad guys

are being yanked out for political purposes. The argument about whether to leave all stay in Afghanistan is a nuanced one and there are valid arguments to be made on both sides of that unfortunate. We live in a time that allows for much nuance. Everything is either in a black or white some of that President Biden vote last night when he was, as you put it Joe pretty brittle in his defence of what done really doubling down. He doesn't want to allow for any wants. Me doesn't want to Here as a sudden, not at the moment, the argument that leaving two and a half thousand or perhaps even four thousand residual forces in Afghanistan could have held off the Taliban for while but when you hear it to you, argument about the credibility that this blow, that this has been to the? U s. I've been really surprised by how outspoken

political leaders are in Germany in the UK and in other places in Europe about what a fiasco this has been Do you think it does longer term and perhaps more broadly beyond Afghanistan. It is a problem for the United States. The degree to which, America's allies are not happy with how this has happened and the how little they were consulted why have you remember, I'm catchy, you know the anytime. Nato is in fact article five after nine eleven in supporting The states and european I stepped up? Then the worry, eight and a half thousand those known Rachel Treat left in Afghanistan this summer. could have continued their operations, and some, including the British, were quite keen on doing so.

Which would have relied on American, ass, a poet and thereby administration just wasn't prepared to discuss that with them, and it didn't really give them much. Heads up on the timing and nature of its withdrawal said there is a lot of that. Is it age, a boost those in Europe, including the French who are arguing for more european defence autonomy. Not is not a great moment for the alliance- and it is pretty good moment for those seeking to undermine that. They don't see this. This America is back by going for it, as being anything more than than hollow at this adds new pay. It is in the financial times at loose. Thank you very much. Thank you, Jessica Donati, as well. Just cause but is Eagle down the last special forces fighting be forever war still had on morning, Joe pressure growing for a coordinated response to the humanitarian crisis unfolding in Haiti, the lake

found the slow moving relief effort following this weekend's massive earthquake plastic? Surgeon general vivid Murphy joins the conversation at the top of the hour. When morning Joe comes right back in the make of the nine eleven attacks. Hundreds of people recorded their stories, building was bleeding into the sky, cried to achieve this, and I asked him to just help me. Twenty years later, the same, We shall return, time doesn't kill, it doesn't fix things, but time makes the trauma less sharp memory, but a ghost nine alone a feature documentary Wednesday's timber, ten p m eastern Anonymous uneasy and screaming exclusively on peacock.