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Morning Joe 8/27/21

2021-08-27 | 🔗

President Joe Biden vowed to respond "with force" to the terrorists who killed 13 U.S. service members and dozens of Afghans in suicide bombings outside the Kabul airport Thursday.

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The lies. We lost their lives given in the south. of Liberty, the Sir Security, the service of others. in the Service of America, like their fellow brothers and sisters in arms who died funded, our vision and our values, the against terrorism of the on this day are part of a great noble company american heroes. for those who carried out this attack. As well as anyone wishes America harm. No, this we will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay.
how defend our interests and our people with every measure at my command. Present by involving the United States will retaliate against the terrorists responsible. For yes, attacks in Afghanistan and what was the deadliest, day for the? U S military in more than a decade good morning. Welcome the morning Joe, I'm really guys did is Friday August twenty seven thirteen U S service members and, according to the Associated Press at least Five Afghans are dead, follow the terror attacks in Kabul? More than one? Forty people were wounded in the blasts, including eighteen. U S, service members Gunman into suicide bombers targeted the thousands of people waiting near humming cars. I international airport yesterday, who are hoping to escape at understand and the Taliban rule the first class. Just outside the airports gates and was followed by another explosion at a nearby hotel. Where would be avenged We were waiting, you are sufficient,
Play government also opened fire on those gathered near the airport, ISIS Kay, the Islamic State Our group's Afghanistan, affiliate has claimed burst. Its ability for the blast. And the killings. Yesterday, earlier, in the day, the? U S, embassy, warned Americans to stay away from the airport, citing a potential attack, the british Spreading government sent out similar messages, as we showed you. President Biden spoke at the White House yesterday, where he condemned the attacks and vowed to make these terrorist pay and news cheap it has correspondent. Peter Alex there has more days President Biden deadline to end America's longest war, the commander in chief, addressing what is now one of the deadliest days. For U S: troops in the entire twenty year conflict. Can service members who gave their lives We use word totally appropriate here were heroes, heroes engage in a dangerous selfless mission.
save the lives of others, but present laming, the carnage on the terror group. Isis K that he's been warning about four days we made aware fire this community the ices K, an arch enemy. The Taliban has one planet click set of attacks on the United States, personnel and others And saying this about whether he'll stick with his August thirty first time line to get all american forces out, we will not be deterred by terrorists. Will not let stop our mission. We will continue the evacuation its Mary scenario for the president, whose handling of the? U S, eggs. It has faced withering criticism and there by part and demands for change. Putting the? U S is reliance on the Taliban for security at the airport, top democratic Robin and saying we can't trust the Taliban with a working security and republic
their blasting, the president for sticking with a strategy based say, has failed. Pretending, like This could be a success like this could be savage, but that's it people at the president, making This bow who carried out this attack as well as anyone wishes America harm. No, this we will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay Peter Alexander reporting. There you heard the president say the evacuation mission will continue. Despite yesterday's attack and this morning it does continued. The state department says at least five hundred Americans were airlifted out of the country, yesterday and one thousand remain since it. A man entered cobble on August, fourteenth officials say more than
five thousand Americans and roughly one hundred thousand people, have been evacuated and total of the. U S citizens. Still there, the State Department says it has been in contact with most, if not all, of political, also, reporting. U S. this gave the Taliban a list of american and afghan names to evacuate in hopes of experts. The process. This, as you can imagine his pride some outrage from defence officials with one telling political quote, they just put all the Afghans on a kill list. Let's bring an hour reporters NBC News, corresponded Josh Letterman at the White House, NBC new correspondent, covering NASH, Security and the military Courtney Kubi, and we see news correspondent, Matt Bradley at rams- an air base in Germany, the destination for almost all evacuation flights out of Afghan US, good morning to you all Courtney? I want to begin with you and send com Commander General Kenneth Mackenzie. Yesterday morning,
that more attacks still could come. Let's listen right now, our focus, really, we have other active wretch rings extremely active breadthways, hence the airfield. We want to make sure that we and the steps we need to take a self that we believe it is their desire to continue those attacks, and we expect those attacks to contain and we're doing everything we can to be prepared for those attacks, so corny. How has the american posture change their around the airports of thirteen? U S, service members killed yesterday, eighteen of them injured or hearing more attacks, could be imminent. Now we heard from the scent com commander there. What does it look like at the airport right now. So over all the posture has not really changed that much there's still about fifty four hundred, fifty five hundred: U S, troops that are their securing the airport, and our continuing to screen civilians as they come into the airport. That's what Dear Willie, is there was a
group of primarily marines? They were at the Abbe Gait, which is on the southeast corner of the airport. It's a place where a lot of us chickens and some afghan civilians and other third country nationals as the british others have been coming through that gate over the last ten days or so, the Marines, where their screening individuals as they were coming through when someone exploited at some sort of an explosive device, the assumption is, it may have been some sort of a suicide vest, and then there was an insolent gun battle. The Marines and newest military are still conducting these searches even today, as we speak despite this, and there still are evacuation of rights that are coming and going that's one of the things that General Mackenzie just played a little bit of his sound from yesterday and other defence officials are stressing to us that, despite this horrible attack and and very deadly attack right that the evaluation mission continues, and you know it there's something else. You put a little bit of the sound from President Biden, vow
to retaliate here, you're that something that I've been in the defence officials, of course ever since this happened, because one of the big questions of immediately after an attack like this is the? U S going to respond. I think that our where's may be surprised to find out that ever since the? U S. Military began the withdraw really began in April or may of this year with the military withdraw comes, it withdrew of a lot of intelligence assets. So the you military has much less of a clear picture of where some of these fighters potential ices fighters may be, and the ability to strike back is cloudy or now than it was a six months or You're, a any only get Collyer include here as the. U S presence, there is completely gone, the: U S still maintains some overhead drones intelligence assets that are there, but since this evaluation mission mission began August, fourteenth most of those efforts are
on cobble and particularly on the airport, because the biggest concern is making sure that where the american military and american civilians are headed that is the area that secure so it doesn't in the, U military doesn't have the ability to compete capability, the capacity to carry out strike. The question is: will they the intelligence to actually go after some of the people who may have carried out this attack yesterday. So called me from the Pentagon's perspective. What does all this mean for the August? Thirty first deadline, which is now four days away. On the one hand, many people who says yet this who say yes, we do have to get out and thirty first say this- is exactly why? Because of this, imminent threat from terrorist groups were moving in close to the airport. Now, on the other hand, by say what we ve gotta stay long enough to get every last American and our afghan wartime partners out of there because of all the threats country. What is that and thinking right now and the deadline
so, they are still full steam ahead for a complete withdrawal by August thirty, First Willie that doesn't, there has not been any change to the timeline. At this point, I was really struck yesterday by what we can tearing out of officials, primarily at the and I spent some one of the Pentagon as well about how, after August thirty first deadline that they would continue to work to get more people out who wanted to get out and particularly get Americans out. I would be you seem to know exactly how that's going to happen. I In only imagine that the State Department and the White House are working on some diplomatic means to try to make that happen. The use has been working categories with all: negotiations in the talks with the Taliban guitar, have a strong presence on the ground there in couple and they have been helping in some different cases already, so I imagine that they will have some sort of a role here, but accordingly, All sides and all defence visuals- I speak what they are, still working towards that argues, August thirty, first deadline and this
act does not have has not made any impact on that you have to get the military situation that their faced with right now. So cobble air, its surrounded by the city itself. only by a lot of civilians and surrounded by thousands of Taliban fighters. Most of these fighters are the most. Is the strongest most capable there they're more elite, like special forces kind of forces in the Taliban and now the strategic decision, it seems on the part of the Taliban to put them there. They wanted to make that they had their best people, who would listen to that a ban leadership about what they would be doing so we maintain this perimeter around that the airport, the fish four hundred or so? U S, troops or their that airport are completely surrounded so, and there also Almost in official you know, there's out in surrounding them the tunnel and have a rocket propelled grenades, have ways of shooting down helicopters and and potentially shooting down other aircraft there. A stronger fire power.
Controlling some of those gates. If the you. decides to stay past August. Thirty, first against any Sort of agreement that they have with the Taliban right now it- be the use would have this flow in more forces, and it would potentially be a very ugly fight, and I think, that's one thing- military planners are looking out right, how is the reality of what that will of just help, potentially bloody? How difficult that would be if they decided to state against any agreement with the Taliban. The clock is ticking toward that deadline. Courtney, coolby with a view from the Pentagon, Courtney thanks so much Matt Bradley. Let's go to you in Germany, where the evacuation flights continue to land the present valve yesterday. The evacuations would continue incredible. By the United States military, even as it mourns thirteen of its own eighteen, more wounded? What are you saying on your side of things and what is This mean for the evacuation. Now it's four days left.
You know really is a good question. I dont think it means anything but the evacuation. I think it just means that the whole thing has to go. Justice fast adds to the imperative to get these people out. what we ve seen all night here: the people who live around here and they said they ve, been hearing planes landing coming and going here at Ramstein. You can see it I mean this is one largest air bases in the world. it's an unusual site here. You can't really see it on your screen, but I can seem- civilian aircraft, Delta, United ATLAS Air landing here mixed among the seventh and the sea- seventeen, the sea, one thirty transport aircraft. Are all part of this enormous operation, and you can see here- is a huge tent city the houses as many as seventeen thousand afghan evacuees. This was a ten city that was built in just a matter of days and not just by uniformed: U S, soldiers, but
so by their family members, their spouses and their children. They all pitched in to bring together this huge Gee Evacuation effort space has been add capacity. I was told that yesterday by the matter runs it. Brigadier John Orson that this the population of the base has tripled or quadrupled in just the last week or two and now yesterday there in capacity they really can't take more there's now just about sex Nineteen thousand people who are living space out, they ve tried to ramp up the processing. Here they ve tried to increase the than up speed at which there getting people going, but it's clear how they can do that anymore. They're going to have to start routing planes to bases in ITALY and elsewhere in Europe, really so mad. Let's talk about ISIS Kay the group that claimed responsibility for the bombing yesterday, the two bombings. You ve done a lot of work covering ices over the years, what exact
We is ISIS K. I think it's new to most people are they in what are their objectives? ICES Kay the k, comes from Khorasan and that's a province in western, Afghanistan, a very rugged, remote province It comes from there. They ve been active actually in the east of Afghans. that's where most of the fire fighting was in all the tallow. and our enemies of ISIS K, they had a lot of firefights ever since ISIS K, first sort of showed itself back and twenty fifteen. I was a little bit after we saw ISIS sprouting up in Iraq and Syria. You remember that conflict they used to have in Iraq and Syria Caliphate. That was about the size of Britain at its height it since been beaten, and almost totally extinguish from that region, thanks to mostly kurdish. fighters arab fighters. In- U S air support now we're seeing ISIS once again in after
stand, and it wasn't only was only a little bit ago that the Taliban said that they too had extinguished ISIS in Afghanistan, ISIS K and Afghanistan, its actual more austere in terms of its islamic outlook. Then the Taliban, if you can believe that their more conservative, more violent with They came from other Taliban fighters. Is it's pretty clear that they have a lot of people in common? It seems like it's a lot of disgruntled Taliban fighters who have joined ISIS K because the Taliban wasn't extreme enough for some reason, and they do so. that. They are looking at more of a global outlook. The town bans. View is more. rooted in Afghanistan itself, they want to create. They want to govern afghanis whereas ices has a more global perspective, an that's why they? You saw affiliates throughout the Middle EAST throughout Africa and, of course, now in to understand, so ICES K is going to sound like they're, going to continue fighting, but you know this is
small target they only there thought to only have about a thousand two thousand three thousand fighters and they're going to beaten back by the Taliban themselves for the most part Willie member the outside Ramstein AIR Base in launched Old Germany. Thanks so much that we appreciate. Let's go to the White House, now: jobs, Letterman. Obviously the nightmare scenario for the country nightmare scenario for this present, losing thirteen. U S! Service members, eighteen more injured! Yesterday, scores of Afghans many more injured there as well the present, they're, holding fast to his decision to pull out of the country. Is there any reconsideration? Now from the White House point of view of the August? Thirty first deadline, not what however, whether we talk to my house officials who say that what took place yesterday, while devil creating an obviously very deadly for american troops serving their only re solidified. The president's belief that we have to get out of Afghanistan and we have to do it now-
The situation there in Kabul are reinforcing for President Biden. According to his aids, the fact that, no matter how long we state in Afghanistan we were so going to end up with this mix of extremist groups with an afghan, Terry. That was clearly not going to be able to stand up and defend the country against Taliban insurgents, but also even the Taliban, now putative leant control of Kabul and of Afghanistan unable to prevent extremist attacks from other groups from rival groups. Like the Khorasan group, the White House Press secretary, General Saki, said this was maybe the worst day of president violence as young presidency. So are, and certainly I can tell you that has been the mood here at the White House and mix of solemnity in light of these amounts
instead of died and also of the true chaos as the wires scrambling to figure out exactly what the situation is on the ground there. What the continuing threat is for potential additional. acts in the coming days, while also trying to do everything else on President binds agenda, including meeting with the israeli leader that was so as to be yesterday. It was quickly scrapped and moved to today, so will see that later today, after the president's starts as day at the White House at about eight thirty in the morning, in this situation, room with his national security advisers and according to officials were speaking to the key mission set at this point. Get every single american still in the country out by that August. Thirty, four, deadline. That is really the goal here, that aside the afghan allies. That is all important, but really in these few hours that we have left on the ground in Kabul they're trying to get these Amira.
That, according to the State Department, is about a thousand Americans there in touch with that are still in Afghanistan over the State Department says, since information is hard to get up to the minute data on its possible most of those american, one way or another have already gotten out of the country and in a sign of the true desperation on the ground there in Kabul, Willie, the State Department also said that in just the last twenty four hours, they heard from another five hundred people in Afghanistan who say their Americans and want to get out, but the U S government saying that, based on their experience, they believe many. If not most of those are actually not american citizens. There are simply asking Desperate for any final way to get out of the country will avoid how sticking to the deadline but saying it will continue to extract Americans after the deadline, which becomes very difficult, complicated, Josh, Letterman reporting for us from the White House Josh thanks. So much joint is now former NATO Supreme, Allied commander retired for starting
the Admiral James, every that sees the chief international security and diplomacy endless for NBC News and MSNBC also with us for aid to the George W Bush White House estate departments, at least Jordan and MSNBC contributor MIKE Barnacle. Morning to you all admiral. You are with us just two days ago you and Joe we're talking about the fear of exactly the kind of attack, against american troops yesterday, here's part of your conversation with Joe certainly want to get every last American out of there it seems to me if we stay in the past the end of the month. We would just inviting an attack by ices invited an attack by let's say even more radical elements of the Taliban. This is the sort of thing I I would Want our troops sitting there indefinitely in this sort of situation. I am very worried we're one c, seventeen crash one big bar one, fire fighting pet, the key,
yea corral away from this thing turning sideways, so bottom line. Let's, let's get this thing done, let's get out of here. If we still happy who won the ground. We ought to try and extend that deadline, but I think it like co bid diminishing returns? Kind of kicking in here? Let's get well, we can that was on Thursday morning admiral. Your worst fears came true in horrific fashion. Yesterday, how did it happened and how concerned are you about today and tomorrow and attacks we ve been told from sent com that could be imminent, isn't about Willie. It's kind of the big three one which has occurred on a big bomb potentially have after reserves, the thought of a truck bomb, which is what of course struck the Marines in Beirut and nineteen. Eighty three killing three hundred of them said is a sea seventeen gone down, perhaps,
stu shoulder fired weapon. There's no intel indication that the ice Kay have such weapons. You just Never now those borders are poorest. There are other groups around the world who would love to see that happen. Boys a dark sought and then a fire fight breaking. If the ices K try mean move All those remain dress, nightmarish scenarios, let stew by just saying there are thirteen. ways today who are having the worst day of their life american families, and we ought to remember them and then let's think about what comes next assuming we can get through what we just talked about and get out of here. I think depressed, and is absolutely right to say we will not for here we will not forget he's kind of echoing the border family from the renaissance, their lead
also remember another famous saying from that Euro, which is revenge, is a dish bestia cold. Mean by that is what stay for Sean this mission, let's get as men people out as we can. We create mechanisms for after we depart continuing through diplomatic means, clandestine means an underground rail road, whatever we need and then what GO find ISIS K in there Rama Way centred and tore a Bora where Bin Laden was and soon or later we find them and they can join Bin Laden at the bottom of the Indian Ocean role, Many people have said in the last twelve to twenty four hours. This is precisely why the United States needs to get out in the next four days because of the security risk to our troops, because security wrist Afghan civilians trying to get out of there? Do you believe the events of yesterday the tragic terrible
it's in your right? We are thinking about those thirteen families in America. getting the worst phone call of their life? Do you believe should change the american calculus at all? Should we stay longer to ensure every American gets out at every afghan wartime ally gets out, or does this make the case in your eyes to leave on August thirty, first There is a tactical case that is strengthened in terms of getting out, because the situation has become essentially on ten or more you ve got six thousand troops, mast people trying to get out it's it's just bullseye on a huge target. So tactically, we ve got it disengage from this situation and strategically juries out in the sense that
does show us the potential for Afghanistan becoming an uncover and space, it makes you question the Talibans ability to contain the islamic State K and other groups, including Al Qaeda, so The bottom line, William tactically finished, smashing get out? operational and strategically. We need to be thinking about. What are our Were the horizon capabilities? Long range insertion of power of CIA clandestine operations coming in from a variety of ways in cyber we need to be. king through those options, because I think there is trouble ahead in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, police who worked in Afghanistan. You know the country. Well, you know people inside the country now after yesterday's horrific attack. What is it? for the afghan people on September first, once the american troops leave and what is it
in four America's. What looks like now at work to go back in from TAT the time is the admiral says to chase groups like ISIS Kay. Well, it's an even more broom outward were in allies who were hoping to get out who had gone through the visa process. The labour Intensive Europe sometimes in years, long process that an unresolved the State Department, is unwilling under the Trump administration, because they basically just stop processing bases of our allies and then You know I just didn't ramp up at last, I just the handle the capacity the sheer volume in you know the six month Joe Biden has been present in, and I guess now. My question bore the admiral is do we prosecute ISIS K if we have no, since in Afghanistan, where even going to happen in the and a marine presence at the embassy
the usual. How are we going to do this in eastern Afghanistan, without any kind of on the ground presence at all were in face were begin by looking at assets. Regionally, Elise, so work from the inside out. Unfortunately, we have no basis on the borders of Afghanistan itself. Your point, however, we have a friendly arab nations in the gulf under thousand miles away. That's a long distance operation, but we can fly not a drones, but in moments of real targeting, we can bring in man strikes from that distance as well. We our british allies and friends who have the ito. Full of deer were Garcia to the south about twelve hundred miles away, so there are bases, long distance. It's not mission impossible. Its mission really hard
we're going to use our overhead sensors to generate the intelligence. Cyber will play a part here, the both the Taliban Al Qaeda in the islamic state- are active on social media, their active on cyber. We have capabilities, collect intelligence, as you know very well through a variety of means and then Finally, despite the fact that there won't be a bit visible? U S presence there among quite com. and the CIA will be able to maintain networks, they will gather intelligence, they have ass. It's on the ground? I am absolutely certain who will genuine look. We gather intelligence in North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, IRAN and other place. We don't have embassies. We can do here as well, it just won't be as crisp as the kind of operation that killed been line which was launched from Afghanistan. We ve lost those basis, my
this, as I said, is the nightmare. President Biden was trying to avoid hoping to avoid by getting out by August thirty. First, with thirteen Americans killed, thirteen phone calls he'll have to make to new goals, star families, but he did stick yesterday during his press conference to his arm meant that it is time to get out of Afghanistan. Despite everything we ve been seen over the last two weeks. Here's what he said so should hundred too Terrorism is metastasized around the world. We have greater threat coming out of other countries, Hecuba firstly, the United States, we note military encampments there. We don't keep people there. We have over the rising capability to keep them from going. After Ladies and gentlemen, it was time to end a twenty year, one by one think, as you heard the president yesterday, he was asked repeatedly about his decision to get out about setting this deadline. Where some people said is an artificial deadline
didn't waiver off his argument, despite the horror of yesterday, well- I was thinking I think the same. the thing that many people in the Pentagon many people- who have had their hands on Afghanistan policy over the twenty years past we're thinking- and that is it was always going to end this way. It was always going to end in chaos and death. I think the important thing, for us as Americans to consider today, and with all reference to this morning, Admiral Street, has just mentioned it as well as you did today. They are I shorty offices of the United States military visiting thirteen homes in this country today this morning, there's a playing in the year somewhere in the world. Coming across the Pacific, with thirty,
bodies in that plane the plane will land at Dover AIR Force Base in Delaware, families will be fractured for ever the families of the the fallen. This is histories long list of casualties arriving at Dover AIR Force base. We are there on a mission to save people to help people that mission will continue until thirty first but mission in Afghanistan for us as a country is over as well as it ought to be. an animal services. Exactly correct. I think Probably right now, as we are speaking here on going as well as with speaking here, they are in, origins, efforts under way, I think Probably the pakistani intelligence service is going to have to be twisted. To finally help in America in
turning against American behind our backs. Other countries are gonna, be used as assets. We will get justice here, and justice will mean death for those who tried to do this, and did this accomplish this horrific acts yesterday. But this mission is over, because the capacity of the enemy on the ground there. This is not walking through an airport through metal detectors. This is an enormous crowd of danger, filled with danger and if they, rocketing the runway at the cobble airport Making it impossible for planes to leave or take off then we're truly horrific position but sadly This was always the way it was going to end. At most, a red ass. We ve heard that from President Biden as well that this was inevitable. That's been rejected by some people who said yes, there might have been chaos, but we
We have seen the level of chaos we ve seen around the airport in the last couple of days live pictures at three o clock in the afternoon by the way from Kabul Airport. As us, accusations continue. So from your point of view as a commander did it happen this way really was this really inevitable? That tactic all situation you see unfolding was not inevitable. I think strategically. Might barnacle is exactly right. in writing has been on the wall here. For quite some time. Tactically, Look we say in the Navy. The mark of a great ship handler is we're getting in a situation that requires great ship handling and a number of factors contributing to where we are in this punch ball at home in cars. I international airport concluding the class of will and leadership on the part of the Afghans. as well Miss steps by the? U S military. I include myself in that number in how
train. The Afghans security forces are intelligence did not indicate, would see this massive sudden collapse. Taliban over performed. I don't think anybody thought they could still but here again so swiftly all those factors, together will aim to create a very difficult practical situation on the ground. Unfortunately, as mike- and I were talking just a few days ago, I would escorted well better than even we were gonna see something like this. Let us all pray we can get sit down and get out of there over the next few days, and I want to read before we go admiral, a tweet from a friend of mine Marines poor Jake would who started the veterans Relief Organization team Rubicon. He wrote those marine stood at that, while, despite knowing a suicide attack was imminent. Let that sink in they did it as those men, women and children needed their security to reach safety. I wish more american.
had that selfless courage. That's for me marine sniper name Jake was talking about those men and women. Those Americans did what they risk, knowing what was coming to help fellow our kids and Afghans get out of that country, Admiral Jane Data breeders. Thanking so let me just say one more thing, which is simply too, all the afghan veterans to all who served in this war over twenty years, each of them stood on that wall in one way or another. guarded this country so to the question was it all worth it. I would say there was terror attack during those twenty years. You can take some measure of satisfaction in that because you served and stood on that wall and protected the country. Thanks for reading that quote and that mission ends in four days. Admiral. Thank you very much. Michael Elise will stay with us. We have much more had on the deadly attack against american Service members in Afghanistan. We will be joined by democratic congressmen and milk.
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Welcome back to morning, Joe beautiful Friday morning, six hundred and thirty eight a dot m in New York City, not so beautiful along the Gulf Coast as tropical Storm IDA, could become a powerful hurricane. This weekend, threatening several state along the the National Hurricane Centre has issued hurricane and storm surge, watches proportion- of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. Let's bring em meteorologist Bill Karen's build a morning how bad the swing it to me. could be as bad as any that we had in awhile Willie. We were talking about a major hurricane landfall, the Northern Gulf Coast, in once again importing Louisiana. So let me show you the latest forty five miles, Winston Hurricanes and after the storm has slowly increase, but we really think as we go through its use. Saturday into Sunday, it could really intensify, maybe even rapid intensification, you'll notice, Category to one I am Sunday hundred mile power
it's just south of the mouth of the Mississippi River, so the land fall forecast, and this is just in from the hurricane Centre. There are now saying TAT forty three major hurricane Joseph, the New Orleans somewhere, making landfall close to home or Morgan City, this would put new Orleans on the dirty right side of the storm storm served to be gives, along with rainfall impossibility. Even some strong winds is far EAST, as well as with the wind threat, could go right up through batten route and then the storm rain itself out as we go in Sunday night in Monday and even the Tuesday throughout the south. So how confident are we were the hours away from land for the black line is came centre all the other. Eyes or computer models there's excellent agreement where the storm is going. The only question is how a strong will it be, it has sixty hours over a very warm water and, as I said, rapid intensification is possible and expected Saturday and Sunday Hurricane watches extend all the way through the Mississippi coastline.
New Orleans area, although back to camp repairs Louisiana- and this is the You did you water, there's gonna, be a ton of water heading for South EAST, Louisiana, storm surge of seven to eleven feed, expected late you're just to the east, I new Orleans with lay parts, a train, forty, seven feet of water and then on top of that, at the same exact time we think there's is any a possibility of up to twelve Inches of rain and sound he's Louisiana ass. You can imagine the stress on the palms to keep all that water out of new and ass? We go throughout Sunday night into my day Willie. This could be anywhere from occurring Every two even strong is a category four landfall bizarre the wines that are most concerned with its all of the water had it for south Louisiana Water by far kills the most people and hurricanes, and this is a very danger
situation in a time of animals to feed a brain in some parts of your look in a bill. Karen's will keep a close eye on that bill thanks so much too that the latest developments now in the fight against corona virus right now, more than one hundred thousand people are hospitalized in the country with covert nineteen. That's the highest number of possible sanctions at America since January in Alabama Florida, Louisiana and the state of Washington new admissions of co Nineteen patients are at the highest level since the pandemic began across the country. children are hospitalized covert. Nineteen now than at any other points in the pandemic join, is now presidency of university hospital in Newark, New Jersey, Doktor Sharif. Elena doktor allow it's great to have you back on the show, want to talk about what you're doing your hospital and how things look there, but, let's start more broadly with what's happening in the country more than one hundred thousand hospitalizations and we're seeing record highs for pandemic in a number of states? Is this all about the non vaccinated
That's the primary reason, and thanks so much for having me. Of course, the unboxing aided throughout the country are the main vectors now for spread of this disease and, as we see back, seen effectiveness waning overtime for folks who did take the right step, and it back made over the last eight nine ten months breakthrough? factions increasing spreading to other family members who may also be vulnerable, is a big problem, and I think again that really the problem really centres on folks war on backs it's a we're doing as much as we can in our community here it, is paying informs across the country to encourage vaccination. Even though vaccine effectiveness is waning, there are boosters on the horizon, but it is better to get the vaccine by far than to nod, and we're really try to spread that message as much as possible. Doktor on how what's going on with kids, we were told a year ago, and there, the height of this, that kids were relatively safe, that schools, where the safest place that they kids, could be
that they tolerated the that's very well, but now we're seeing, as you know, when you're seeing, I think in your own hospital to an uptake young patients, what is going on with children. Is it just the fact that they are the only group of people now who are not eligible for a vaccine eleven and younger what what says it's concerning to me that it still seems to be a debate in this country about whether kids are vulnerable to this virus, with average over twelve hundred hospitalizations for children with cuban maintaining this country. For the last couple of weeks, I we're seeing more kids in our emergency room, and these debates are even in places you and expect like right here in New Jersey, we have a governor toil candidate, who recently said that children are honorable to this virus is inexcusable and its false information. The commission's who see kids in our hospital, the family members of those kids with covered nineteen, certainly wouldn't agree with that in its against science and against the truth, and we have to make
folks are aware, especially as school starts about everything related to school safety. They need to wear masks and, of course, to vaccinate be minors who are eligible so that we can stop when everyone expects, which is an even more of an increase in pediatric hospitalizations. You said boosters cannot come fast enough that it's already time for a lot of people in this country as new is the vaccine is to get a boost or shot. What is that look like? How soon might we see those and how soon should people start thinking about getting them? Recent news is that Pfizer and Madonna have submitted evidence that seems to suggest that six months after the initial round a backs, a nation would be the right time to get a booster, that's an update, and also that gathers a consideration of ass. I will tell you silly approving or
the rising I should say, boosters for folks who got J J as well. So we see in the coming weeks. I do think there is ample evidence, unfortunately, that vaccine effectiveness wanes overtime, certainly less than a year between sixteen months, and I think boosters can't come soon enough in euro compromise people already can benefit by reaching out to everybody and our liver transplant programmer cancer programme folks were particularly amino compromised and were already administering those folks, stir. So we hope to see more news on. That's you, you ve been talking, and we ve been talking about you, how you ve handled this inside you're on hospital about getting your employees vaccinated. In that case, to those even nurses and die. those who are sceptical of why that's important you put in a mandate at your hospital. You went from fifty five percent vaccination rate among employees now up to ninety three percent. After that mandate went in How was that been going since the mandate and what has been the response from your employees was
mention that Willie that vaccination effort has been very successful were now well over. Ninety percent of people coming to this camp is to work. The rest either have a religious or medical exemption. We only had to terminate just a couple of employees for non compliance with the policy is, ultimately people realised. We just can't abide by the risk of spreading this deadly disease through the most vulnerable people in the community. The people with health conditions that for ten for a poor outcome with Kovac nineteen, and so we ve, had overall broad acceptance among our employees. People understand the rationale and I certainly think every hospital and healthcare institution and more and more employers more generally, should be mandate.
This vaccine, we are starting to see that across the country Doktor Sharif Alcohol, university hospital in New York, New Jersey, Doktor on the whole thanks, as always your time, we appreciate it coming up here what we know about the group, they claimed responsibility for yesterday's attack in Kabul that killed thirteen. U S, service members and injured eighteen, more NBC needs chief foreign affairs corresponded andor. Mitchell joins us with her latest reporting, plus present binds explanation for why the United States abandoned by Roma Airbags, a decision that come under heavy criticism and congressmen and marine veteran Seth Molten joins the table. After seeing the withdrawal operation in Kabul first hand earlier this week joins us next morning, job
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She basically said you squarely stand by your decision to pull out. Yes, I do because look at it this way. I have another meeting for real, but imagine where we'd be If I didn't indicated May the first. He's not going to renegotiate evacuation date, we really must stay there One alternative or thousands more troops back into Afghanistan fight a war that had already one relatives of why the reason we went in the first place. I've never been of the view that we should be set,
facing american lives to try to establish a democratic government in Afghanistan? If Osama Bin Laden as well Al Qaeda had chosen to launch an attack, left Saudi Arabia out of Yemen. Would we have ever gone to have even though the Taliban completely control Afghanistan can at the time, we have ever gone present by Speaking at the White House, yesterday joining us now here in New York, Marine veteran and member of the House Armed Services Committee democratic cognisance. molten of Massachusetts, he and Republican Congress and Peter Meyer Michigan made an unarmed approved
to cobble earlier this week to witness the evaluations on the ground congressmen, it's great to have you with US bureau and their couldn't be a better voice, someone who serve as United States marine someone who is a sitting United States congressmen who had seen with his own eyes, what's happening in Kabul. What did you see? When you got there the most stronger thing. I've ever seen in my life. Willie was what was happening right. It Abigail, where these were these troops were killed. Isn't it impossible ass. We have given them to literally sift through a sea of humanity. thousands and thousands of asking us to try to pluck out Our allies are friend and their families. husbands are wise through little girls and boys and an inn. for their kids in their back and hold their hands and literally literally From the freedom, so this I expected to see a gate
with brains on one side and Afghans on the other, but not the way. This can work, because waited so long to start this evacuation. We have to go out the crowd So these Marines were were out there, from Taliban with their with their horse whips a tremendous risk. Literally saving lives there a lot of Both men and women who die protect our country and saving lies in the abstract. Every one of US These moraines, who gave their lives, legacy that they weave thousands. Thousands of Afghans for of ours people who trusted us who were alive today. I have seen a lot I've never been more proud to be an American that that their navigate yeah. I think that's an important point to make because, as we talk about
african standing on the wall. That implies so there are sort of providing security, but the picture, you paint it is its Marines waiting out into the crowd, relying on the Taliban for security, the very people who have been fighting for twenty years. What was that like for you to see as a veteran of several tours to see he United States were lying on the Taliban and effectively working with a terrorist group mean it was the most bizarre thing. I could ever imagined and these marine to grew up. Knowing that the Taliban harboured, the people who attacked us on nine eleven were now has to work with these terrorists. but we have to save lives and one of the most important things we learn by being there on the ground is the day crazy relationship with the Taliban is actually going to be really important going forward because, no matter Even if we extend the deadline to September eleven,
the negotiated original date with the Taliban, we cannot possibly save all these people. Their win, Tens of thousands that we leave behind in the only way to get about the future is. If we have a proactive They should ship with the Taliban we thought that being there would give us the best on earth to advocate like most friends across the country believe in extending the deadline What we learn from being on the ground is that, sadly, we gotta stick with and we have figured out we're gonna get people out in the future. You talked about accusations and how they should have started much earlier. That's been one of the central criticisms here from both the Ebner Republicans and Democrats, which is that, let's get all the people out before guys with guns get out. Do you think we ve gone about this backwards? Yes, but you know It is now time that political debates about this. You know that there are people who will hot troops we still gotta get home safely and ask of you
The next few days are gonna be really hard. we're gonna have to rely on the Taliban. Just to get out of their safely then we ve got to figure out how to get all the people out there we left behind. So Without a lot of work ahead of us, we went afterwards to see the refugee camps. Were sending These families, His many young families that were that were literally pulling to freedom how they're in places where we don't even have enough food and water to stay alive. So there's a lot of work that we still have to do on the ground to save people. we gotta be firmly focused. He had a white house, and the president said again yesterday were sticking to the August thirty first deadline or getting out, but we're committed to getting Americans out after that date. What does Amber. First, look like this what you saw yesterday. American fighting forces have left
but we still want to get Americans out. We still want to get some afghan wartime allies out. How do we go about that? look? Here's the blood answer Willie, I dont know because we don't have time, everything that is happening right now. These ordinary numbers of people that were bringing out it's because of these heroic efforts by troops and our state department diplomat caught young consular officers trying to sort through emigrate paperwork. It's because of air heroism on the ground that were saving so many people, not because anyone Washington gave him a plan and the sadly reminds me of when I was a marine Iraq in Falcon We abandoned by Washington because Many people in Washington were making decisions. Did our lives and they had no clue. What was going on the ground- and I just found, if I ever get to Congress.
I'm not going to repeat that mistake. I'm here for the troops, I'm here for the people were trying to save that's what matters now people in Washington. So what do we do? we have four days left to get american troops out. What woody, Good plan? Look like it's pretty late in the game, but what would a good plan look like that? Would secure american troops. So we don't see any more Marines killed outside the gates of that airport and so that afghan allies in the afghan families that you're telling me about are not brutalized by the Taliban Again, this is it this isn't a ridiculous situation at the end, but we actually have to negotiate with the Taliban. We have to keep a good, really check with them to ensure safe, withdraw and then to ensure that we have some diplomacy with them to get people out after we go So the present right, we need heal the people who organise the attack, the killed
These you servicemen women, but we also have to work with this. There's other this other terrorist organization to get our second, we ve got take care of all these people that we got out do the airman on the ground and in Qatar were thousand upon. Thousands of these refugees are coming every day are also about two thousand troops. On top of that, and they literally don't even have enough water to give people. The state, more beneficial said that administration lawyers were preventing donations where we're trying to get to the bottom of that, but that can stop because more people are gonna die. just stay with us. We are at the top of the hour. Thirteen U S, service members and accordingly, the Associated Press. At least ninety five Afghans are dead following the terror attacks. We ve been talking about in Kabul and meeting these. She foreign correspondent, Richard Angle, reports on what happened, yesterday on the ground. It was
Ray soldier and marine and cobbles worst fear an attack whether most exposed as troops were sitting down at evacuees at a cobble airport gate searching for a bomb he or she that still unclear detonated want. This is closer or the breadth of the and you're searching is only while we have over watch in place. We still have to touch the close of the person is coming. Ultimately, Americans have got to be in danger to do these circuits. It is really no other way to do it. Another bomb exploded a few hundred yards from the first, as ices fighters sprayed gunfire Afghans, tumbled, dead and injured into a sewage, ditch we drove through this exact spot a few days ago, a corridor flanked by concrete blast walls that leads right to an airport gate. The? U S is relying on the Taliban to pre school. in the crowd pushing to get into the airport hoping for a flight out of Afghanistan patting them down before their checked? Again,
by: U S, troops, this staggeringly new and bizarre security cooperation broke down. Clearly, if the rain we get up to the rays of the screen at the entry point of the base is a failure somewhere, it was a failure by Will you tell a man operate with varying degrees of canvas? Some those guys are very scrupulously good. Some of them are not just a few weeks ago, the? U S was bombing the Taliban, but when you s, troops pulled out triggering the collapse of the afghan army. Now, there's no one left, but the Taliban to protect american forces as they leave ISIS K and ISIS offshoot claimed responsibility. Many of their fighters and other extremists, including Al Qaeda members, were in afghan jails. But when you s backed afghan forces, melted away the prisoners escaped and for the past few weeks have been on the loose, they have one clear target: the key
believe Airport, where nearly all the Americans in Afghanistan are gathered and are still gathering until they leave Richard angle, reporting for Sarah continually congressmen and marine? and Seth Molten here with us in New York ups congressmen there's been this big question that some people have asked. Was it worth it and I've heard from veteran friends. Hoof wondered same thing from from time to time, where the last two decades worth it ass, he watched the wayward leaving that country and watching more Americans die yesterday, thirteen of them and eighteen injured. As you pause to think about it, she paused to think about what you ve seen on the ground just in the last few days. What are your thoughts about the last two decades we're not gonna sit here and try to argue that it was worth it not the hardest question that I regard as a as a young,
twenty something rain officer in Iraq was pacer. Why are we here. A haunting question in the end Only good answer I could come up with was so no has to be our place in that, not an adequate answer. It's true then I think that applies to those rules were out there today we can debate for a long time they got into that place, when I say I've never been proud to be an American is because these- Young men and women are out there willing to do for the rest of us and for these and for these afghan kids, You know when you see a: U S Reign crap Little girl by the hand that reminds you of your own daughter,
That's that's what american law that they represent the absolute best of America. And we ve seen so many images in the last couple of weeks of United States, Marine service members holding afghan children, carrying them over the wall, to freedom and hopefully to a better life, and that's exactly the kind of honour and selflessness and the sacrifice, sadly, that we saw yesterday congressmen MIKE barnacles here with a question for you MIKE congressman as we said here today, the Marines around the way the Dover AIR Force, base, casualty offices or not. At the doors of their homes, and Strangely enough in power simply enough the mirror continues because those Marines those dead Marines have been replaced by other Marines, who are doing the same thing today, the costumes
thirteen their lives two days ago, so my question to you is: we live in countries with no draft. lorens, you spoke of just a few seconds ago in Iraq, the Marines and the airborne who are there the carrier couple airport because they volunteered to be there. You on the ground for a very brief period of time a few days ago, so that change your view of. What's going on? What did you learn to the change? Anything in you thinking about? What's going on the change a lot like, but let's start with the fact that Washington put them in this place, what the meanness impossible place, miss possible situation with it nearly impossible mission, at the Marines on the ground are so committed to saving these Afghans that's because they know that American made them a promise,
they want to stay there as long as it takes unit how many marine said so let us find a way to extend this deadline so that we can keep doing this, because if more people we can say that's how committed they are you're right as soon as those Marines were killed. There are the Marines who said send me up there. Let me go I'll, go next, one of the most important things I learned from being. There, though, was that we, extend this deadline because we have to bring people home after we leave and without getting it details the negotiations. That's not a tenable position. If we beyond August, the reverse we ve to negotiate that with the Taliban it's not gonna work. We put our cells people washed and put these troops in a place where they need the Talibans help. I learned it the most difficult things the
Organizers of this evacuation on the ground are dealing with is actually was of Congress and members administration who were beating down their doors, trying to get their particular friends out. That's why things distracted them from the mission. There's been no system no plan I've been trying to which we have a list of about two thousand Afghans just in my office- that we Trying to get out last week I stayed up all night focused on a for families. Just families, hundreds and hundreds of text watch out messages between troops. I happen to know on the ground in these families trying to convince the Paris I know your kids are starving in their crying stale the longer because her someone who's coming to get you trying to get there and at the end of that night, I'd say, but one one out of four families. a picture of them on the other side, the gate
RO, a journalist, his wife and an end to girls about the same age is mine. I said you know what it is worth it and if I can get on a plane, and figure out how to save a few more, but about do that. Crime is and what does that process look like right now, if you're a family in Kabul or way outside Kabul, which is a whole other Jason. What does it look like great now? How do you get to the airport humming Check points: are you going through the family for families you're talking about what is that says, look like it, it looks chaotic. Is it his case? because it seems that looks hopeless to a lot of people to get through all those checkpoints, especially if you are trying to pass through the Taliban and have worked with America some time over the last twenty years? What
these say: there's no plan in place, and sadly, let's true. So what is the process? As someone like you try to get a family to safety? What let me describe it for a family that I know well, they were out in a sea. Well, outside and first they had to make the decision, the weather to even leave their house to travel all these roads with Taliban checkpoint, knowing that they were on the target list to get to Kabul, convince them, I don't know you could die in the way, but my instinct is go. Try get to the airport, so they and leave in the morning that night the Taliban came to their house and made them serve dinner to them. these families literally making dinner for Taliban soldiers. Before they leave the next morning to try to escape them, they got to cobble They somehow made it to the airport by showing some semblance of paperwork that convinced the Taliban that we call. Try to get out.
and then they sat for days at the airport, eight without food and water, watching their kids whether in the sun. Why was on the phone them trying to convince them stay longer, because I've got someone who can come and we finally got the heroic airman. The common literally pull them over the wall and night because ice sort of exactly with pictures and grid family was. And carried them the safety now there in a refugee camp. Neither in Europe Gee camp where they still don't have enough food and water gonna fix from next, so you literally reached out to someone. You knew an active duty service. Member said here's where these people are that's not a process. That's a favor for a body! and pulled them over the wall, that's the only reason this there's one family safe and we ve been
watching, as you been talking, the evacuation continue. The work of the United States military goes on flight. Her flight today, three forty one in the afternoon, despite the trauma, That is, its military. The tragedy the horror suffered yesterday, thirteen service member killed eighteen injured? The work can he's Congress. I know you have to get back to work or so for your service to the country and so grateful that you have given us witness what's happening on the ground for the work. You continue do thanks for being here this morning. Thank you, like this Wake up the nine eleven attacks, hundreds of people recorded their stories. building was bleeding into the sky. Cried to achieve this, and I asked him to just help me. Twenty years later, the same voices return time doesn't kill, it doesn't fix things bites. Time makes the trauma less sharp.
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