« My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

134 - Live at the Connor Palace in Cleveland

2018-08-16 | 🔗

Karen and Georgia cover Ed Edwards and the Kirtland cult killings.

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requirement anyone come I'm not going to list plays in the luxurious. You are young, shut up, steamer yeah. Let's hear it he's not here, Zaire Bags Yes, exactly very bare legged, Stevens, cookie, bays winner, explain this to its seamen. Well, it's it's perfectly Stephen behind Georgia. It we looked at it. I said it has his grabbing eyes. Let him see they look at those Stephen, your eyes always like do you need anything? Georgia sent him a picture of it and he responded. I wish my lips where that for that
Steve, that's our cv! Thank you, Daniele at EM case Swedes. She may now has a new right box of like all those cookies and one of them. I've never seen this before it. It was like a pink cute low, like beauty shopping, and it said finger basis. I'm fingers and favours lather lemme get inside joke. She isn't some phony cookie, making pseudo listener Sheena deep alive, show references like fingers and faces yeah making up the ones you just painted. I literally did this two minutes ago and then there's like we're sitting so the door- and I got georgia- can you fluff fluff my hereupon at Cancun in there right now? What with my fingers- and face it can't do it. I thought you were really gonna bust out was something right. There felt good. Do you want to sing them little mermaid again? No, I
when I tell you guys, but I forgot my soon this church, that's not my transparency sharing, I want her birth control. Are you might have no boundaries, I really do that you're going out- and I would like I've- looked so good a packing, and I put myself in my thing and then I hang up and then it's like everything is there and an electricity we now to my apartment before we like right as we were leaving the house in the ballots. Fine, that's its unplugging someday? I guess you can't go because he loves you so much much more than Stephen. Amazing is leaving and then Vinci like then says mistress like we have to. Right now for the airport sure then a good way cause I'm like we can get there. Twenty minutes before the thing fell, everything fell out of it. I picked it up in the dark. Doesn't it
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but I don't want to take your balls, someone rules, upload one was little boxes suitcases, I'm actually affects or wrap. Your doing. Business for our company. However Nine months from now I'm pregnant. This is that I got that. I held would immediately become a nun in our life. Your thing, you is it opposite thing that your parents to calling Islam yeah. I guess I am I. I was trying to think opposite of murder. They have it. Same Deb, it's us in or empty or a murderer right. I guess this is a good or just drag. I wish you could you guys can see it right
That's what you paid top dollar for those seats up. There will be selling replication that emerge table after the little else paths that this rag, really a levelling, oh by the. This is my favorite or a true. Commie rug Park, hath, that's caring, caldera and that's Georgia. Hard start and we're all here to talk about tragedy within within. A a gazebo of comedy. Let's say that, where the tragedy is not funny, but what we have a great time in this gazebo around it doesn't
to be a sad gazebo or a happy is evil that we're just there. It's it's. We contain multitude, and so does the gazebo and and really bottom line is, if you don't like it, get. The fuck people start storming happy, I'm not everyone who works are quits in this document. We now know what we need now, let's see it's real fucking cold. Here too, I don't know, I'm sure you know, but Do you guys know now ray? I feel it when we of delay was eighty. Two they tell us who we don't use aerosol were not responsible for the we didn't papers, position particular hole in the ozone. Sorry, I
like that? The reason they are giving us a spotlight is to recreate how adhering to allay visiting it's a boy Maybe seventy eight up here. Where Valley we, don't know how I well. I don't know how to address in cold. I understand Wings someone's like it's twenty, whatever I'm like. Why do know? That means a manoeuvre. This key trench go I'm just getting just keep on keeping on with what I have got going well, a guy and we it was again that thing where we step out of the body of the airplane. In that little gap between the airplane and the walkway. But, alas, it was snowball time. Our language is super on cool, but what we're doing did at an acute- hurts, fired a borrowed, a coat to do it. Do we love it? So I mean it any place to come and discuss. Try.
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You guys and bade him up anyone any airport. There is, as you know, is in your beautiful airport. It there's a Superman station where there Our Superman is holds his he's, holding Mr and then there's a story of Superman being broadcast, allow to everybody waiting for their bag, which is nice, they should do that in every city or not. Superman known another rip off, but what I do, but there was a little like probably two year old boy, that was so stoked that my Superman was in the airport, but I he was saying souvenirs and I was like that is the curious thing in the world that he wants to buy souvenir. Meanwhile, Superman was five feet away from me. Just just eight feet: tall and like a man's boys blast you like Superman's and learns Illinois, and I'm like always that souvenir listen. It's a tart,
that loves keepsakes, key chains, he's got a collection of creature and he's got little license. Plate spurs bicycle, but he kept screaming Superman and is that it would take get take him away from it. Put him down the keyboard fuckin around back over Superman amused going it in a way that, like may become a sad because I can make anything said. So when you don't have your cell jam Zachary over this where it was just like he was screaming Superman, unlike not understanding why the rest of us, who are like sad and old, understand what liven up like he was letting. We will now lies in any one likes, You guys he's going. Why are you facing that? Fucking luggage, rotunda they're just keeps spinning tearing at it like miles to a flaming. Superman is right there right. So a tragic to be a child shows
do bad re solo, anything I can stooping through it Wait a second. What is this? A new seventies draw, nevertheless, why this is at the last seven years dress I had that has kept here on it. It's the other seven erect sites and a new year on shit. Look at. That would mean it's just that I was excited about it. Oh I didn't cat here, though this is I'd have this before but either? This is sticking to my role of only wearing comfortable seventies and eighties dresses from now on, walking down we'll get down the rag. Look at her, oh yeah, let's start at here! Oh may, not to do it when you are propels knew that nothing to do. Teeny tiny scissors, there's a to G g. That's right! Let's talk about you, you haven't revelations,
Exclamation young couple when we I bought a new dress from, of course, the fashion retailer target and ran I'm always like twenty nine? Ninety nine hell? Yes, then, I'm sorry, as when you it says you can watch it, why should wash you can't so where were we last hoof, nor Orleans knowledge the first night I went out, address having had washed it, then afterwards people are so kind to post pictures of my middle aged ass on the stage and it looked like I had on a child's rampart of em like watch this absolutely fuckin malaria and then gone out on stage mortified. So
I do my back up I'll sit witches. I keep ending up in my back about fits. We can't go on that anymore. I, this is the front up out there. I just wanna like many of you just want aware pajamas and public so are we a new idea of a common EU, listen, he has showed thing right: come the way you listen do. What do you work out when you listen podcast do? Are you a doctor? Come near Scrubbs, put our? U clinic helper, bring us clinique where you are. Bring escalate clinic in your white clinic fake doctors. Outset you fake clinic That's how I that's all you find out. I'm land come hard guerrilla hard core land come till. I die placement product placement, product placement just
dollar bills falling from the ceiling Also- and this is your firewall tour of the south- are that's right, eminent burn this when I get home I also just can't find the time to make myself look nice so I'd overcome. Then say it with the hair. And then I see what happened. I dig it. It's fun bears great its tongue. I mean you think, like you're erratic historic theatre for them huge show with a ton of people a lot away where you're sweats, where you're sweating. Why even have this opportunity and power? If you can't abuse it terribly- If you show that you care, then they won't respected.
That's exactly right. That's when they start using. You will like now. They say I've heard like on improv. It's like don't rescue, because that they don't be mad at you, so they want sheriff works like live, so unaddressed, cute overtime, yeah or big. It employs. There's always that yeah one girl on the team that we had to put on you didn't hear you can dress like you like, because now exactly you in your rules way? What are we really now this about? Now, there's a simple the team in the center of this honest there finally saying what I've always the Vonnegut is here and now she was alone. Thank you. Thank you. I, like amid height kind of high low chair, so be interesting. Usually proceeds appear and there's a lot of danger for me in getting into it
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images, but tonight and control. We can go. In June, the last I believe it was Nashville was not the one we were like. And so they Mary DIN, there's a picture of them as a couple and then two three, four five six and made very accommodate just to be like still up there. It still up their young out of assault, but this time that's not happening. Unless we Do it to ourselves, which we absolutely will who ok guys theirs? Can we said it so many people to choose from so many. So nay classics. But when I looked up this story, I couldn't not do it. I don't know if you know it, it's the young
Level story of serial killer, Ed Edward, soon there is now Edwards Edward Edwards, not his real name. If you can believe that so today in looking this up. Steve Stephen, sends us all of our links. He does a lot of like ground still does a lot of Greece for us, which is great but then, I stumbled there's a show and a lot of you probably have heard of it are watched it, but I never have guys I'm almost fifty it's on Youtube and it's called brain scratch. Have you watched it guys: ok, it's so good! It's guy! Okay! This is these are the guys it's a guy named John Lord and and he basically take shoe through these cases like he started this by reading the Wikipedia Patriots, I'm like that
a thing, but he bears please like pulls you through all the research, all that, like amazing, stuff form like oh these, people that hate our show like. Oh they care about Saxon dates, but it's. After portuguese there. It's not just this case he's got shows about All that all the true crime stories that interest you and there really cool so and because of the show I had a nervous breakdown round to Pierre. Has this story changed quite currently near them, it'll, and so let me just we'll just walk you through it. So did you think, like got this store? Everything's, fine it straight for it is a circular here we go yet and then found out some secret should about him. I think I know where the secret things are so exciting. I'm excited perspire This explains no, no, no,
there's a nine on page nine video favour. Ok, yeah mean that anyway, should we raffle this guys come on Oh there's just so. You know, there's not eight pages. Ok, look at page, eight is it. That was a mistake. Ok Edward Edwards? Who was on Charles Murray, isn't in one of his foreign, Charles, Charles Murray, Murray, don't worry. Edward Edwards is diagnosed Edwards born Bill Marie. Why I knew that I was suspicious, may give dropping in on everyone's wedding: ok, He was born in Akron. That's right. Groom June, Fourteenth nineteen thirty three. He was
illegitimate, and this is fucking horrible and really heavy when he was around five, he witnessed his mother's suicide glorifying so Years later he goes theirs. They sent him to an orphanage in Parma. I'm too, for these city pronouncements. I can't understand o stoked eleven it it's gonna fuck. We didn't ask anybody about that. It's no! Yes, with a sea. No, that's not right! Well done, so the people out there. You know all this sudden oil that's not there when we need it, but just pseudo everyone in the front just started naming cities they think we camp are now raise their hands. Whatever came to mind what I hope that everyone like that, anyone we become
the river owing to that one, that's not the same as the city you're talking about, I might have made up at work done. You didn't cities in mind to work in a pig One person you're, not helping. You said you just said. I hope I was the city we're trying to that's fucking insanity. I bet you're, not even from here who she has given me, the I know she's crying. Oh sorry, don't my glasses on. I bet you want to fight me. Sorry, when the time comes. I meant to ask you what the city name is: stop crying so that you don't like let the swelling go down its later on its around page five ok, so he get sent to this orphanage later on in life. He claims that the nuns their beat him first We and emotionally abused him which very easily believe, but then
he blames his later life of criminal insanity on that we oh bullshit, always on that. So no ed, so he the also claimed that when none asked him when he was little what we want to be when you grew up, he said: sister I wanna be a crook and I want to be a good one so nineteen forty eight, when it was fifteen with centre, forms a reform school in Pennsylvania, and Slater later. I think you pronounce that right think so. Two years later, he returned Akron any started committing burglaries them. He he basically got He got to switch out. He was in juvenile detention. They said if you join, the Marines you can leave here. Like sounds great. Almost immediately goes a wall from Camp Luzhin in North Carolina just pay
everywhere in the world have up our sprats really I heard a bears grants ok, You guys are fun, so in April. One. Fifty two, oh shit, it's on page one ok, show her you guys are going to say that city till the coffee like Goya, Hogarth, chill coffee, Chillicothe, hey! You guys thought that that was the one we could pronounce. Nobody can yell bearded. Ok, I'm sorry! She did.
Talking very bearings, even though I do a full conversational, ok, but she raised her aunt true. Yes, we need a system in place, ok, so the reason you to chill coffee, as if I've always known for two years- I guess he was impersonating Marine and he stole a car and went across state lines. So he answered, getting dishonorably discharge from the Marines. According to him, cause later on, you'll see he wrote and autobiography so great he. Yes, please, favorite thing here: describe himself as being ruggedly, handsome and equally cunning, which doesn't make sense, was either he's saying he's rugged running he's, like a mountain noisy equally handsome, it was equally handsome to a rugged king can cunning. He
claimed. Euro spent is twenties, hitchhiking forging checks and having sex all across the country. To oh, my you're. Twenty is when you George, that first challenge are like I myself. Finally, I know I am ok You may have seen this guy before I think that that right up nostrils what Dan sublime. Now that I look at it, this figure we marked they used to always you back in the sixties is probably jets are less. Is it an asian painted black with me, whereas he had full lips too he's stern, a little Stephen mustache. By arming he just as large upper lip surface area remember that face it's gonna come up later.
Sure it right now wearing glasses. Ok, homer! You stop talking about ok, so he can. So after being held on burglar charges in Akron nineteen, fifty five he broke out of prison by pushing I stood guard is being rude, we'll watch, while excuse owes me on that, lots of prisons work. It was honor base hinders honour system prison, like you promised you promised to stay here and not push Then he fled across the country holding up gas stations for money as he went, and he said that during that time he never wore a mass because he wanted to be famous you right So I would ask you to bear today about you. Hey, you
daughter: Series of Armed Robbery, nineteen, fifty six six- he was arrested in Montana and he was sentenced to the penitentiary and Dear Lodge ok. So he's. He's from their things clear, the cookie area. Thank you. He was released from their in July, nineteen, fifty nine, but then taken to Portland to stand trial for two armed robberies in nineteen fifty six, so they like we're like. Oh that's, the guy from our thing bring em over there. He gets there sentenced to five years probation. But while he's there No sorry, this different time. We, while he's there or another time this guy literally, did so many fucking crimes. The idea that he just kept getting paroled and getting out really is a reflection of the time and the or of his fucking scan I'll, tell you that because it so that's it just like. Oh you, you held up another gas station. You know what
we're gonna go and give Europe a slap on the rest get out of here you not so he you still trial in Portland for to arm robberies and fifty six. Then he brought out of jail in nineteen sixty in Portland. Where heed this good, this could be a serious Wikipedia mistake I made, but it says we're he'd, been arrested for pulling a false, spire alarm. The big deal back. Then I mean it wasn't like a flag and frankly, nerd stood. No. That was that you know why, because back, then you couldn't just reset ire alarm once you pull that it was broken forever. It's not true, ok about while they had him there for the false fire alarm. He was questioned in connection with the double murder of a young couple from Portland named Beverly, Island and Larry Peyton. But no charges were filed. They could only question him or they only question him so then so he's
out of jail in Portland they're. Looking for him he's traced to Colorado, were he oh? it just you don't seem like you mean it, so I don't know how I love there. They're here now they're, ok, childhood! I am happy to be here, and I am happy to be here the original thick for me. Ok here's how they traced him to Colorado. He had been cashing checks from the Ritalin Bowling Club, which he was a member of the land they had their own checks. Yeah, I guess, it, was the treasurer of the Portland Bowling Club. Or friends with the treasurer and apparently they had tens of thousands of dollars. Lady, do you now I'm just getting,
the boy with a bowling link young willingly, I'm on a joint boiling leaning, have money that would have been a pack of aesthetic correctly. Is you it's? a start, a boiling league where you make hard boiled eggs and spaghetti. Who I could do that top Roman, easy. Ok, Can someone right down the boiling leaned courtesy pitch, what we're gonna do they? When food network no, yes even get it, you don't worry about it: ok, cell because of all this, and I can't find him the bowling leg and all that shit in November nineteen sixty one the FBI places him, the ten most wanted list, what he wanted. It's all about sing state lines when he was confined. After Mary conviction is they got him on all the stuff, so he's come. For two months later in Atlanta, with his wife now. Is
if all this, how did he find time to date with whom the robberies and pushing prison guards that he had been doing so there was time for love and Edwards, Meda. You think he met on the bowling. We all he was like throw is hot on a by her a corn dogs, Z. Where this thing goes you you know, I do falling. Now you know of corn dogs. Oh hello I love to how do we hurried Larry, casting right. Now we can not theirs a bowling league. We can join around here oh, Everybody suddenly yell about tonight, lover, there's a bowling, leaving elbowing link game tonight.
True crime, Levin Bowling legally Lioness appeal. Yes, oh get so they send him when they kept finally capture him. When he's on the ten most wanted list, they send him to Leavenworth for sixteen years. Four or five years later. Of course, they just don't want him to stay So this is where s the con man takes over, so he gets out Leavenworth, and he claims that a benevolent art that he met in Leavenworth. I didn't that's a cut and paste word. I would never use it battle cook, a kind the guard and helped him. Reform. While he was in jail, and now he wrote a book on his life of being a lifelong Kramer. I called the metamorphosis of a criminal coal in the true life story of Ed Edwards, fake name true life story of a vague mania.
So that he releases that in nineteen seventy two and he based he starts. He goes on the circuit and becomes an inspirational bigger. Yes on the phone The Pham? Oh, he has just drawing up. Oh yeah, he beat that's him up there. Yeah some way. Let us not be critical what happens when you settle down? Look, she has my bangs alone: She kept those herself too she kept those herself after a couple white wine? You know me you they they end up having five kid, hopefully also yeah, and this is him as a family man right, oh and then we're going, and then we're just going to show you this. Since this was it's a recording of his inspirational speech called
says: they're Ed Edwards says build a fire in the person not under them build a fire in the person not under them. I feel like that was the first draft and you should have kept going yet at times when you're trying to pick a title, it's good to like spitballs, three four ten ideas here, that smile is so creepy. Anyone who looks at happy as a second monster, yes, it looks like he like he'd. Take, the bottom half of his face off at night. So weird by hiring, that's a weird. It's like all. He knows about smiling ass. He saw two scrunch your entire face and developmental yes, Mamma this part down these very still, we did it. We do. We really have so everybody gets. Bill inspired by his inspirational motivational speaking and he ends up going on
to television shows a nineteen. Seventy two, the to tell the truth, room, which I'm sure you loved back then and to show called. What's my line, he with others. This is to tell the truth, where a panel would have to figure out if you were lying about your lifetime, a serial killer. Yet liar omega. Ok, I I'm sorry. But I feel like that to tell the truth font AIDS to come back and then also those whatever those robots. Are they like penis robots, just what are they peanuts I didn't want to say the first time that penis robot allowed to my face, I just like,
things looked like this. When I was very small, so when I see it again it just like thinking, you're happy, it does a little bit, but then I also like also I'm alone re. Like someone put me in a room alone that takes you back to a time when Europe souvenirs, God, I remember when I loved souvenirs right, so basically If a pseudo celebrity everybody the idea that a man who was a lifelong criminal went into prison and a benevolent prison guard. Tim see, you know his way to living the a life lighting fires inside of people very inspired by that really rather story ended. It be a beautiful now and then he lit several people on phenomena, but not the axis of evil they legitimately. If the reform of the act would be a great story, the wire part would be fun to its its
idea that I feel like a lot of times when we talk about things like this, when you're like how did this person get away with this for so long? It's because other people want to be true, so then, when it starts to flee. The way of this is in no way true. You're, like a nobody is yet through here, He were, he lit a fire inside me, so the fame dries up, of course, as it always does- and I hope you remember that this is all we're all on a clock here, So he goes back to the scale that he learned in prison, which is carpentry me, I'm a handy man. He buys it. I was in eighteen, seventy four. He buys a house and Doyle Stan and Ohio, adding everyone hates it. No one fucking cheer him saying it wrong, Doyle since acts. The oil town,
no w and then feels good, not to be the one another ass I look back at once my guy, the w, I may have silent excitement like that. It's a silent, invisible doubling! Thank you. Finally, someone being helpful. Ok in oils town, he builds a house for his he remodels out for himself and his wife and five kids and then around town he becomes a family man and, of course, does the thing that all great psychopaths do. He begins to try to ingratiate himself with the police so hangs out. Although he's a big talker, not not big, drinker, buddy, hangs out and bars, listens gets me,
talk to him and then basically becomes a snitch. So He starts telling the police about local crimes that he's heard about and an teeth hangs out what the police they hang. They hang out at their house. Basically, He then they come home one night and their houses burning down. And the police and the fire department find evidence of arson and so the word cells as family that some a criminal formed on found out that he was niche and so that now we have to go on the run, and so He starts move. His family to a new state like every six months or so because it turns out, Ed Edwards Zena shock you. He was not reformed and Levin his record his boss. Even though the cover was beautiful, so real, quick,
Miss skip ahead to nineteen. Eighty to this call Kay, so in the army. Nineteen. Eighty in Jefferson County was content. A young couple, my cab seer. I why that's the Jefferson County bird collar and easier to night or she, women Mistletoe Karen okay so August nineteen. Eighty, a young couple named TIM Hack and Kelly, drew they go to a wedding reception at a place called the conquered. How which is this big place where they held. There is like two wedding receptions being held there that night there nineteen years old, they were Highschool sweethearts. They left the parties together, though perception together and they were never seen again the next day, I'm TIM's dad goes to the conquered house fines. Cars are still in the parking lot. Then,
Five days later, they start. Pieces of Kelly, drew's clothing like out in the country where the whole things out my country, but around so, then, the police have to go in an interview. Everybody. There was at the conquered House TAT night, all the gas from both weddings and they have end up with no leads. There's no clues and the case goes cold. Two months later, thereby were found, TIM Hack had been stabbed to death, Kelly drew had been strangled and that's when this case became known in is Wisconsin as the sweetheart murders, and it was called for decades, so, almost twenty nine years later, two thousand nine instead of Wisconsin, gets a cold case grant and they get to reopen five called cases and the sweetheart murders are one of them, so what they they go in, they get Kelly's clothing and they find D.
Nay on it and they send it to the lab to get tested- They can match it and they thought they do find dna from seamen on her pants and so once they know that they might be able to match it. They the police, make this announcement to the public anybody has any information about these two young people's murders. Anybody, if that was at the conquered house that night, any anything we want to hear from well. At the same time, twenty forty eight year old mother of two name April, Ash YO had been reading. Reading up on coal Since she read this article and when she sees the picture of the conquered house, she stops cold.
Because she remembers when her family lived in Jefferson County, and she remember that her father had been the handyman at the Concord House, and she remember that, two days after the cut, that's right, I'm building up to it so heavily two days after the couple disappeared. Their woke the family up in the middle of the night, put them all in a car and move to Pennsylvania. Her father was Ed Edward, that's right! he had my Beijing's. She had that's right. I think that was the mom That was the mom. This is the daughters of those babies either daughter had broken. They didn't. I thought you and mom over daughter, ok, forget it. I was looking that at that moms catholic, going like take me forever to blow drive out, make that work. Oh my god, ok anyway, this is so
here's how here's went down and she basically is business Blake. I feel like it's kind of what we're all in it for where you read an article and suddenly got cold chills. You're like I know that face I'm the witness that you need, or whatever did you see some girl. Did it today that the bachelor, what did you say, bachelor, some fucking girl like I'm missing, photo in a fuckin, humble humble times of like look at all these missing people and some girl, like some. Second, girls and ensure kind greatly, looking at me like that, girls are contesting the bad dominant insular, it's really her holy shit. You told her mind she was going to we're gonna Marijuana farm, but instead and tell her she's going beyond the bachelors or Mamma. We do a shame. Yeah yeah, but I thinking that maybe the bachelors affair for an hour farm work. I would explain, allows stuff on their work would have to the road
That is, I guess. It's just paint red bread painted, Oh yeah, that's how they traffic will you take. This across Dateline envy my bride oak. At our topic, any house we're back. So a couple years: after they moved to Pennsylvania. In nineteen eighty two. She then remembers that one that your mama's had been in the hospital for an injury, her dad took all the kids, camping and the night when they went home the next day, their house burned down because also who the fuck once lay kids your minds in the hospital really sick. Let's go campaign, your words! This had been the a time that their house had been burned down. Now it supported this theory that, or this story line that he was giving his family of bad guys are after us and they're trying to get me cause was a snatch. Well too,
April surprise, her three brothers went to the police I said we are the ones that burn the house down cuz our dad made us do it so in nineteen, eighty two at Edwards was arrested for arson and he was sentenced to two years in prison in Pennsylvania you bring your own house down. I don't care that you're fuckin, how's dont lights fire, but but you did. He got out one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven and then now he decides he's going to be the family man he's going to read dedicate himself to the family, so he Bag and one of the senses when after college, but he still has the four kids at home plus boy named Danny Lardner, who had is one Since friends, they all went to high school. Danny came from a really troubled family, but here in Cleveland, more trouble than your dad
I can, he thought he was going to the perfect family, so He starts hanging out. He becomes like a member of the family and these days with them for years. Actually Ed tried to adopt him, and the judges like no, he's nineteen by the did allow Danny to change his name from Ghana Glock nor to Danny Boy Edwards got so I don't like it either. So then, damning, joy after high school, Ed encouraged Anti to join the military, and so he hurt his ankle we have this fuckin story go he heard his ankle and he was gonna, get discharged and so He too, he was telling me about that problem and it was like
he basically was like that. It's it's such a disgrace. If you get discharge from the army, whatever so was dishonorably discharge, so he would now so Danny. Going AWOL two days before he was supposed to be medically discharged from the army. And he remains missing for a year and apparently Edward was obsessed with the fact that he is missing and he told the police you going to do everything it could to try to find the money, A year later, hunters find a shallow grave in the woods behind the cemetery in the city. It's Danny by Edwards and he'd been shot to death in the back of the head. Oh, I'm so Edwards is distraught. He's going crazy about it at dinner, funeral he is asking people. What do you think happens to Danny very appropriate so that
case ends up going called. The police can't find any leads about that. So years pass and all five of the Edwards it's our sitting there all grown up now April has around last name there all talking about Annie, murder and what they think could have happened, and one of the older kids brings up the fact you know mom and nineteen. Eighty two mom was in the hospital, but she, you remember why she was in the hospital dad stabbed her. They didn't not The kids knew this, so they all start like sharing this information apparently moment when kids, when fuckin citizens get high together shit count, that's right like it takes one thanks giving party where everyone has a little too much baileys nets like well. Guess that didn't happen. That way, I remember thinking Carol so well. This is even more worrying. Apparently, at Edward
came home one day and he want there was a bag, a potato chips. He wanted to eat and he found it. Half eaten. Does their spoken, ninety seven kids in their family, and that's all that happens when you have more than two children and the family in contest. He finds out that the bags been half eat Any stabs stabbed his wife over it. They still have lasts I mean also don't stab your wife alike no you're right, there's tons of problems tonnes a problem. This picture one. Would that reaction here? He really went really went straight to sixty didn't. Even there was no discussion, there's no did they sit down respecting people's potato chips, ok, but So what's the older kids going? This is what this is this and this is out, and then we came home and then there are houses burned down for them one million time, so we
starts to realise her. Father is not the person she remembers him to be and she was only eleven years old when the sweetheart martyrs happen in Wisconsin, but She did remember that her father was the handyman at the conquered house and she rumours that he came home that night, the night that the that they disappeared with a cut his nose and a black eye, and he told his wife had been in a fight, but then later when the police came to question him because he was the handyman, he told the police that from a hunting accidents. We changed historian April remembered that she's, and ass. She saw that picture and alike as the city name and the is where he work. It was all come. Together and she started having like what could these weird recovered memories and infirmities and yeah. So he tells the cops hunting accident and then too, later. They move away in the middle of the night, which is the
is a good time to move, because there's not a traffic is better hot. Oh yeah, you're not like boxes back and forth car sweating, re sunburns problems, not sure. What's next year, oh. I wanted you to see that jacket that he wore on to tell the truth. I don't know of his wife's soda for em off the couch or what the fuck happened, but like in own in evangelical Preacher, some feeling has actually he died in all american person. He looks like different, another kind of person that could light a fire inside you right, under the Lord. So sherry compared. I dont look
Why is where ok not or about it was? I know I know, and I have to hurry up because is taking too long, but essentially so April. Call those Jefferson County, shares apartment. She talks a detective Chad, Garcia and she's. Basically, like my dad fucking killed with response sweetheart murders. So this detective I'm love with. Of course, he he goes and looks up there. Is he reads the interview he sees where at Edward said that his injuries were from a hunting accident which is insane like clearly fight injuries needs. Like oh, I hit myself in the with the gun twice then he reads: Edwards Book the meadow offices of a criminal and sees that this bait guys basely fucking nuts out of his mind so two weeks later, he
April. Let her know that the dna that they took from Kelly drew's pant that sample that base it in to the lab- and they also got dna from Edwards, and it was a match extradited. Back to Wisconsin to charge them with the double murder or so at this point old Edwards a seventy. Seven he's got like permanent oxygen tank he's got diabetes, he's very overweight in very poor. Health? He knows. They have him for the sweetheart murders, but when you, in custody. He finds out. That was, content does not have the death penalty, so here rights, a letter to the Ohio authorities and says you're gonna wanna come talk to me, cause I got She had to say to you, and so the cops From Ohio come up and then he starts confessing to nineteen, seventy seven unsolved murder case of eighteen year, old, Judas, Stroud, on twenty one year old bill of Arco, who had both been.
In the neck while they in a car, it was another lover's lane situation their bodies had been left in a public park? Then he can. Says to the ninety ninety six murder of his own foster, son, Danny boy. That's right! He had So what really had happened was Ed had convinced, Annie to go a wall from the army. Come out of the woods, I want to show you how you get out of how you get out of military duty An Danny's thinking, he's gonna show some like shoot yourself in the pan whatever it is, and that's an Edwards shot him point blank and it turns out that Edward was planning to cash in Danny's. Two hundred fifty thousand dollar life insurance policy, which he never got to do. In the end, after all of that at Edwards plead guilty to five martyrs, he asked for the death penalty. They said nobody
stead. He got for life sentences, but don't get too excited because he was only in jail a month and then he died. A natural gas hall, stupid bastard. Okay, now detector chat, Garcia of the Jefferson Counter Sheriff's office says he is couldn't pretty confident that there are is five to seven more murders, Edwards committed, and he- gave a list of fifteen confirmed and suspected so they have all these murders that that took into the timeline of at Edward which brings me to the mental breakdown of the story because, as I'm watching brain scan your mental picture about his own, ok now he's gone now so remember the show, I think you did Nathan BAR Jonah on this, so we ve often recommended the tv show real detective where real detectives the story of cases that they had to work on and Andella closing and
on that show on the episode about Nathan BAR Jonah, they most hideous child killer of all time. That's a fucking contest yeah. I mean you really there. A lot of competition, but I went by me out incredibly badly. Nothing else bothers me on this, but it does so fun, but on that show the former, Detective. John Cameron is the detective. That's explaining that story and he's the one that close that Kate, so a John Cameron has written a book called. It's me Edward Wayne Edwards the serial killer, you ve never heard of and in the book he He tells the murders that it has been convicted of. Then he provides analysis and argument for a other murders that he thinks that word is could be responsible for including the murder of Adam Walsh. Nineteen one
the murder of Jean Monet Rams night, but he was older brother. He was invalid and look like Santa Claus. He looked like Santa Claus. I've I buy it. Ok, thank you you just have to say it twice and then you're convinced say I really like satellite, ok and then and the Robin Hood Hills, martyrs of Stevie Branch, Christopher Buyers and Michael more now. This is, of course all of this is like it's it's theory, conjecture but he's. So you know how and April says this in There's interview in interview of hers, worship, talks about remembering how her father, as we say ingratiate himself with the police, he was obsessed with police procedure of Go in and basically watching the crimes that were committed that other people are getting sent to jail for. He liked it. But when in kind of stand around, if you like interesting so in the dock,
now that we ve all seen of the West Memphis three theirs, very famous scene where These parents are at their sons, grave leave. This is Christopher buyers. Parents it's this That is thing in the world at this at the grave and then in background Zono isn't here that's. They say it's him now alive dudes like that, so it's like it does look like Santa on vacation. For sure money in his hand, I don't know what if you watch you can see it in the clip and it's just. The document are just cuts away. Like there's other people at the cemetery there will they believe If this is handled at the cemetery guess what else
making a murderer? That's him in the hallway behind the lawyer, certain they now it's that is hand because you'll see there's oh shit. I dont think I have pictures of him later, but The area is light years, big do as a real pointy kind of doubt. Word facing knows and anyway, the job Cameron theorize is that he set up Stephen Avery because he Ah, he lived in our away at the time. Trees, a hall backs, murder and disappeared on Holloway night and he can people on Holloway night, that's a bunch of they. They traced.
Philip. Now people are yelling. I don't like at all: it's not my fucking theory. It stress me out more than you don't like it. Imagine me at three o clock thinking. I was done with my homework and then this ship pops up and it's the most interesting theory I've ever heard of my life back there back there back and they look. Ok, ok, ok Basically, the XL leg of modern murder, but this man, but there's one more: oh, yes, that's right! Cameron, says that at Edward is the Zodiac killer, artery tat, crews, that's what I I got to this part of the story. I got it to this part at like what six o clock- and I was
that was passed. The pictures point look at Cancun, Stephen Pictures power, five, thirty or whenever it so this is where you would see a side by side of early Ed Edwards and that drawing of this of the Zodiac, where he has glasses along I'm. Seeing in my brain- and I can only has fucking plain white guy face, pointy knows, and if you just had some glass like I've, been lipped right, is that how do you think he, Vietnam? It's definitely have well here. Here's the here's, the thing he lived in northern California in the sixties. At the same time as each of the Zodiac murders and some claim He closely matches that original description. Other say fuck now, but April
at Edwards daughter says that he is to make the kids watch videos about the Zodiac Killer and while they watched it, he would scream that's not how it happened, I want her hometown murder. Froggy until she gets up and walks on steel Gimme that done So, essentially, to learn, or about this case. There's. So I Irene like I was going doorway insane. So basically If you want to see April about how her father is a serial killer. It two weeks ago on investigation, discovery, theirs Oh Paul people magazine, investigates and we all love people magazine. It's the truth, I'm Bible, murders are designed, as my fish
It was called my father, the serial killer away and its April telling this whole story. It super awesome. Also, on spike tv they produce a six part documentary call Documentary Series based on John TK Whence theories called it was him with, Edwards grandson, a guy named Wayne Wolf and they both go in and explore all John Cameron's theories about where he was and how he possibly could be involved in pretty much. Every famous murder of modern times that yeah? basically, that's the story of at Edward. There's lots! Sorry, that's so long! There might be one more picture on their ban on earlier. I don't want to show my earlier coaster, I've that was that was that
insanity like go onto brain scratches that com is, it has like all the research it has all this stuff. Like our research that this guy is collected and it's so crazy that was bananas. Yet. Now that I am piled up and ready to go. Ok, are you guys we're fucked up story. I had never fucking heard of this. Oh it's bananas, the Kirtland COLT killings, holy shit in others. I do not arise. Goddammit! I love a call. I know you do. I know you do This is a worse mass murder and the history of late county. That matters to you.
Quick? I feel like we should have explained as before to the people who are here tonight against their will and dont know about the people who work here, a partners of people who are like. I don't want you, but you did the thing with me. So I'll go to this with you. When you hear this cheering and is not cheering for death. No, sharing for that. It's more like we have all been sitting alone that, with this information for so long and now we get Do it together? Is that help so curtly? Cocoa is ok cut them, so let offers ok, fuckin, this deck Jeffrey longer he is born in. In May of nineteen fifteen Independence Missouri. Is the child of similar, no one cheer Nope no Mormons here. Ok child of strict super religious parents, their members of the reorganise church of Jesus Christ, the latter day saints it's a small offshoot of humanism. Ok,
like most religions, their open to the idea of modern day profits raised. So According to sources. He Jeffrey was severely abuses a child and he was a loner throughout high school, but ass he grew into adulthood. He became a religious fanatic. He was excellent, memorizing verses in the Bible and the Church of Mormon book. Yet the book of Mormon, you know from the church she wanted to know which he studied endlessly sues obsessed with religion. He goes to Central Central, Missouri State University and He spends nothing, but you don't like the city guy. He. He hangs out house per hour, odious youth any meets another student, their name Alice Killer. She
told by a church elder that she was destined to marry a great church leader, someone she finds Jeffrey longer in his like hey. What's up I'm a modern day. Profit here is listened to me spout all this second Bible. Should I memorized, you know college stuff, you know I mean yeah. I know that book from Mormon. What's that shit, like oh shit out its hand. This is it's him so but they start fooling around out of wedlock. Winston, unless you do know unacceptable rate and socialist, gets pregnant and then Jeffrey flunked out of college. Whatever the get married. Oh, I forgot that. That's the college that we care for his to who flunked out and flung Galaxy it can work. Do they get married and by nineteen eighty, they four children sterile
they'll super religious, and by this time he starts telling drivers are selling his wife that he had visions that he was at the crucifixion and then he was with Christ he died and he can see- and you can also see the future, just really cool. Just a point. Our people we're have visions. We're like I was at the crucifixion, but I was way in the back up as a tall die in front of me talked really loud. The whole time I didn't get arise at the crucifixion. There was for one of the other guy was it that those other criminals before going, there was the upside down eyes. It was not nothing to write home about that? Never happens. Everybody's Cleopatra, and Alice was like gray. She believes him. She better. She has more Galea. Ok here and told her that guy. Had told him that that they need to move to Kirtland. Ohio
It must be nice gods like hey, then it must be in place. God's, like there's this amazing for bedroom. How really good square foot there, a great room. So Oh that's where they are. The charter, the Mormon faith was, and it's a mecca for Mormons. So there are like move their unlike get more religious If you can try gave it a world. So in April, nineteen aid for the longer family moves from misery to Kirtland and Geoffrey Volunteers is a tour guide for the historic Kirtland Temple and he also worked as a Bible study teacher, but the church like one, the man do. What do they call on priests not in the elder. Yes, I don't know very well what Spain did, not God, he's the one hello, Gambia he's walk. He's the elder, the elder, I knew at first line of the huge help. The church elders is like walking by his Bible study thing and he and he hears Phoebe like forget everything,
they just say that the church what'd I mustn't me every and there's like spouting August negative shit like hell in stock, which I guess they're not stoked on well yeah children no to like the older people, ok, and so Elders are like Brown, can't do that and so they also suspected instilling twenty five to forty thousand dollars from Temple. The Temple store. And so a Temple Bowling league. So they kick his ass. The church of the Temple store like a souvenir, saw souvenir Agnes in enemy. Souvenirs like that book of woman or a big superman, a thought? What about a foam? Finger is, like God, pointing up yes,
okay, so this one is for one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven though he had already won over a small block of his stuff. Group, but it doesn't people flock and heat by claiming that he was upset following gods, orders and promising that they would see the face of God if they followed his teachings. So they believed him, so they left the church with him. And he began to prophesies that Kirk Kirtland would be the site of the second coming of Christ, wow Kirtland Ohio, who went on picture. Oh, I fear that a picture of the second coming across Europe gods. They see all ready for this So this is the London family. That's Allison asshole over he looks like a real fungi I just they look happy enough for this report.
So a longer and family and their for children and around eight of their followers. Move into our house together. What a bummer fifteen acre rental property. In Kirtland, it's got a century old house that they all live in and also a barn and they and the followers all call Jeffrey and Alice mom and dad know the red flag. No, no, no no amorous, unless you're on Mama's family down every night, intense scripture classes, topped by Geoffrey, of course he. Can do it for hours and hours on end and they just fuckin set there unless and preach his craziness. His negative bullshit heat This follows that everything they knew was wrong: the head of a race, their memories and start over with what he told them and they were allowed to pray without him to do tat
Tell I'm frank right now: you dont know can't tell me some it doesn t. Do it they turn over their paychecks click. Lay turnover, page oxenham and all their possessions to him Fuckin classic culture right here. He would eat drop on the court members and that made them believe that he could be they're mine. Now you not, I mean he's like the guy. A separate along caught members were better to talk amongst themselves, I can talk to each other what the upside of his cold, but does not having to think that monthly gonna high five, but one day what they talked around, They talked amongst each other. It was there was a sin and he called it murmuring, oh my god, and He made them all fast and he would like fucking eat all the food around them and share and
Ike threaten them, it was. He was psychotic person and he was really charismatic and I think we really good at speaking list, he was W. I hope Satellite go back, so another. Families have become devoted followers of Jeffrey, Lungren was the Avery is in nineteen, eighty seven Dennis Avery, who was an assistant at a bank in Missouri, move to Kirtland, with his wife Cheryl and their three daughters. Trina, who is fifteen Rebecca, was thirteen and Karen with seven. They were family of book. They were really passive. People and Geoffrey would complain about the Avery is because Dennis let Cheryl quote where the pants and affair, which he that was fun sacrilegious like it's a sin that you're letting your wife tell you to pick up your fuckin socks. Before you know, she's talking and that's not allow now she's, nothing subservient so well. Its assent Dennis
gave him ten thousand dollars from the sale of their Missouri home, but he kept on the money for himself and his family and he also wouldn't leave in the house with them, and so Jeffrey was pissed off about that too. Here's a picture of the eighties. Ah they're nice. We can all ok, ok, though, so so migrant began preaching about the end of days and planned a raid on the Temple that fuckin fired as ass. You mean the main Mormons Apple ha, ok, we're gonna rate at and that this time they started practicing military, maneuvers and stockpiling weapons and dressing in milk. I regard a bad sign at church here now what it's about now and all that we're like
this is a young like told I m sure, and also one of the coat members at this point having Currie who'd nineteen. Eighty eight was like I'm out of here. This is not what I fuckin signed up for He goes to the FBI and tells them about his plan to use lethal force to seize the Kirtland Temple. It was planned for May. Third, one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight, which was Lundgren's 30th birthday, which is like happy fucken birthday to me, he's one of those like it's my birthday alma and at the end for Marguerite S. And then we're gonna raid, the Temple Right so FBI passes info along the Kirtland Police Chief Dennis Yarborough and the day before they attack. There are like can you can talk to us for a minute at the police station and his acknowledge? I'm not gonna. Do that. I swear, but the human it's back home to his cold. He doesn't
tell them about that. He was like. I had a conversation with God who told me we're not generate the church. Ok, you now in their cause. Then he with the news like nervous that they weren't gonna believe in him anymore, because he didn't follow through with it. But he's like that. Don't worry, we're still gonna fuckin do something violent and there great, that's all we want as followers of this religion, So, oh Papa, instead of focusing on the church, he turned his attention to his own flock, but she says as evil in it, and they need to quote cleanse sin from the group. He says that tax and is the Avery. Is it gets worse? Always if you know every time, I look over here to tell you something and then look back. I can't see the words because my retinas are burned the sis I let takes a minute. He tells his at the end of days are approaching something that I love to. I can say that, but I am don't kill people
and he promised other followers would get salvation if they sacrifice the Avery families insanity. Yes, so they had been at this one is whole flock, which are normal people there, like husbands and wives and people who have normal jobs and we're just really into their faith. Had been so whipped up into a religious frenzy that they were ready to do whatever he told them to do because of the return of Jesus Christ. So an ape seventeenth, nineteen, eighty nine, the Avery are called to the lingering residence and, when get there in the evening. One of the members of the called Tabby calaveras said she thought it must God's will that this was going to happen and they knew what was going to happen and they all go along with it. In fact, some of one of the member This one you do now the world said. Yes, I just I just remembered issue. I never heard of it before the thing to do them to the barn. Ok, just
Episodes yelling about me ass, an american justice about. Listen, you guys here. What's his name, Sl Courtesies Voice near him, that's right, but they ve not going to go to the letter jacket for no reason Ok, so they bring the family to the House and Denis Avery is asked to come and go and at the barn, for whatever reason he's walk there he's rendered unconscious of the stun gun he's gagged, and this is other and dragged it to a pre Doug pit where he shot Jeff? shoot him in the back of the head twice and he dies next. Are all the wife is lower when she told that was at her husband needed help, She is bound and Lord in the pit and she shot three times and eyes. And after that He daughters, Trina, fifteen Becky, thirteen and Karen seven are also shot and killed in place next to their parents in the pit its and all these
fucking members are there and they knew it was. It happened and they all go along with it. In fact, so of one of the members stood outside the barn. While this happen in ran a chainsaw, so the neighbors wouldn't have a gun. Male off will be there are indeed bloodier all of their humanity was stripped away. That's the whole thing of of cults. You'd lose yourself entirely in it all becomes about this person. You're following and you just don't you just what they say. That's the craziest! That's why they're so fascinating is. How does that a person. That's manages a bank, Gordon it does anything that you think. Oh you would know not to do this, but it's that its, In total, there was one woman who was Jeffreys Cousin who like join the culture, is like a single mom and later in interviews she's. Just like I want someone to make all the decisions for me. I was scared and didn't you know. I didn't want to live my life, and so it was nice to have some
decisions for Miss our plenary than you'd like no, I mean you hope it would be this point, but the out but also it is that thing to the idea of the promise of say like it, whatever the promise ends up being like Jesus, returning that become so real and that ideas you're salvation, so you're going to do anything. It takes to make sure that that happened. Right of criticism real sacrilegious, but I'm not I mean what, if what, if What, if it's, not that great? when you go to Heaven, You did all of La Russa, like, I guess it's cool What are you sure, like a shitty diner, you like us who alone before this for this for this
so we D Zalm, sorry, I'm jewish, I dont have to apologize Boop. I just have to call my aunt is a nun everything that we did tonight and I'll be fine that, during the Ferber love we were ok then the neighbors did say that only her chainsaws running that my God, which is a horrible, hoping to here at night, you're, not cutting what it now not safe. The body is, though, that the Avery family are covered in line and buried in the pit than currently they just six our trash all over it, and then they go back to the farmhouse and hold a prayer meeting the very Next morning, the FBI cop show up to the house to kind of do a welfare check and because of the complaints from the neighbours who are sick of nighttime chains all year,
so imagine this fuckin flock is like shit like the next morning: yeah but they're. Just there, they don't you no what's going on yet so that the FBI interviews, everyone make sure they all want to be there in our by choice, and one of the police members like well what about there's a family called the Avery assuming an area them and they said no, because they weren't deemed important because they warrant is active in the court, so they never sought to find them sought to find them. Maybe sought them South amounts. Cannot them out? Ok, seven! so later that day there like that, I was a close call. Let's get the fuck out of here they they get the fuck out of there. And lay go to a remote campsite and West Virginia where they lived in the upper guys. Where they live in the fucking wilderness wilderness. Four
there is a strong booing section that I'm into right here they go and live in the wilderness for seven months. What why asking bomber male wouldn't be in the whole time they were like? Do you told us that they use come to Kirtland and raise a wire? We hear quickly, your plan. It is still my birthday I want to camp and after all these months. The fuckin Lungren families are like just kidding, it's going, it's going to happen in southern California and they look and take off and leave everyone behind the family really, so Everyone is suddenly like. Oh shit, we might have made a huge mistake. So by December 31st, one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine. This cult, member, Larry Johnson and his wife had left him to take up with a longer in Stew, Sonny Southern California was like
So this was a bad idea and he contacts eightieth agents in Kansas City, he's Does the beans tells them fuckin everything, including details of his own involvement in the murders and gives the agents a hand, drug map, of the barrier of the barn? Where the pit is where they can find the body January. Third, I guess they wait till after nears There are just trying to arrange schedules, China, they couldn't get older, the judge from the scientists, their search warrant out of the judges just plastered out of his affairs. I mean you never know when making sure that could be true. They search the burial pet base on the drawings and after clearing away at large amounts of garbage debris, they get. They begin digging in with by the time it's dark out, find the first set of human remains they find Dennis. Then they find the rest of the bodies and there are horrified. This is like a nice.
Lino Suburban town with water, religious people in it. And some arrest warrants are issued for Lungren and twelve his followers, including Alice his wife and their nineteen year old Son Damon, Endanger KIT Damon, its close to Damien, which is satanic or Demon Richard Brand, as one of the key member injured, Branson, a Virgin Airlines sharing Blanche, shilly Catherine Johnson, dangle craft pommels, Baron VON Chile, by Sharon, blunt ski, financially, Ronald lapses in left, Deborah Calaveras Dennis Patrick Tanya, Patrick and Gregory Win ship. So here's I think, I'm a photo all of us I mean at one story here we go So these are the people that fled to allay. No, these are all of em. Oh it's everybody. I call he's just good and see. Look at that
dead eyes. This was: was this a lens? Crafted colt rough stuff number. So the charges the twelve accomplices ranged from conspiracy to commit aggravated, murdered, complicity to aggravate and murdering kidnapping by inside of one week. All suspects are in police custody. Some of the members had charges dropped, not many due to non involvement, are only given obstruction of justice charges, but the rest of them get some slack and hard ass time should as one of them Richard Brand is A six years old when he was arrested in connection with the murderers of the Avery, is he's a cop loses. They explain, he's a fucking college graduate Green Civil engineering and he participated to avoid
life sentence, he agrees to plead guilty to five counts, of complicity to aggravated murder in exchange for testimony against Jeffrey Lungren and other called members. He was. In the barn, in the night, when the areas or murdered and heat Jeffrey Lungren is the trigger men, but but but but He says they were all willing accomplices, though his job was to help binding gang rape victims before they were shot insane so run. Laugh. He is a key and planning and facilitating the murderous with Jeffrey, a sentence. Two hundred and seventy years and life to Life Alice Lundgren, Who was trying to say that in our she wasn't really part of it? She was just a subservient wife in that he was abusive. Ever the jury was like health now she sentence you a hundred and fifty years to life in prison.
Two months later, their son Damon is sentenced to four consecutive lap terms without per all four hundred and twenty years and then sell it a free London's trial starts and ninety ninety, and it only takes two hours for the jury, to find him guilty of five pounds, each of aggravated, murdering kidnapping, but on his ETA sentencing he's alive. To give like talk whatever what Fuckin hours he preaches is no fuckin. Shit, for five hours he's like stands at this pulpit, like he's giving a fuckin sermon. And goes on, and on and everyone in the current like we could see how fucking insane he was. My egg just seem so crazy tat, one more life sentence our efforts The thought of him asked when he was arrested is like a lower it. You owe me out here.
I don't know if you are that jacket headless, nobody had to say I know white track suit. Who are you so that did that the Blah blah blah hold on two hours? Then he he gets sentenced to dine the electric chair, oh shit, pleaded deals are reached a because of that surfing cancel that cancel that order Please deals are rich with six defendants who agreed to provide testimony exchange priority sentences. All those defendants have been poor old, six of I'm five of those people spent about Twenty years behind bars before going free five, now in prison after having served their we favour now out of prison? or are still serving time, including Alice Lundgren and she's not
eligible for parole, Intel and then there's a period at the end of that. What Georgia I believe you liked whiny. Ninety, eight, ok, ok, that's a great number then October, twenty for its two thousand and six with this, the head Lastly, the appeals are exhausted. Jeffrey Lungren is executed by lethal injection at the southern Ohio Correctional Facility, sixteen years after he murdered the Avery family he's mattering of polite applause for lethal. Jackson, he died with no family or friends among the witnesses and no one claimed his body and he was buried in a prison grass roots shit. However, Missouri Church community raised thousands of dollars now
I'm on a map to pay for the burial of the Avery family and misery. Of course they dame that's real church does that's what real search does and they launched a children's charity in memory of Trina, Rebecca and Karen Avery, and that is the fucking hurtling call you guys, and this is a heavy episode- it's heavy I would have another breakdown. Stevens beautiful face. Wasn't that its Anti Stevens Cookie Fazio, uniting us through the since then having who in the loft. It's just like brushing your hair with his moustache step. That gets you through the hard times. Do we have
we always have time for a home town. Ok, you hardly Geneva your hand and that by now facing oranges, lights, look beautiful, you have to listen to rules. Because there are crucial crucial roars or else here we go balcony. It's not happening, sorry, I'm! So sorry! This is a union theatre. We have to leave at a certain time, but we cannot wait for you to haul your ass down head ok, here's the rules, we want it to be a local story, don't come up
here and tell some fucking Florida story. We are while my eye Cleveland anywhere near by also, as you know, you can't be so drunk that you can't tell your own story. Does this fine, but you have to keep it moving at. This is the crucial role that we realise in the last couple shows please remember: ass the story, teller and as the home town teller tonight, everyone else in the audience hates your guts. I wouldn't shout out a friend you got here. I wouldn't be kissing, fingers and pointing to people. I would tell your story quickly. Factually make sure you know the names you know sure that you got it on in hand, but not, but you can't Eureka we're so was Ernie other was what rules o obviously can't real peace paper. People know how to do at this point.
So when you said my name of ours there saying your name, don't be a sap now she's crying there's also be other rules, there's no crying or there's only crying look. Now, that's a manner that is here tonight, What's your name my dear and curly member here you have to let em look into Harley currently with the sea gas empathy anyway, Where are you from here I have, but where are you from? I am from?
thank you argue there get up on I'm from Cleveland. That's what we're talking about all your friends matching sure they were pointing. He made them shouts adorable. What is really gets, its essence Eugene and with the murderous in beautiful the forest, they were pointing out you furiously. Where is it because of a great hometown? It's pretty good, it's pretty good! I like it humble unlucky. All of you. I am very turned about being respectful towards involved. We I'm not gonna directly, name name, ok, ok, Ok. So in about two thousand eleven, I guess I was working as a substitute english teacher at my old, school had just strange in itself, where
I met some pretty awesome new, English teachers and one was this young woman research. Can we just take a moment to clap for english teacher God bless them they're all also goober drivers, I've been paying half of my sister's mortgage four year so anyways. I met this young woman who was fresh out of college. You know still living at home. Really passionate about our job and anyway, the matter, I'm sitting in the office and the head of the departmental oxen she's, like young, bad as teacher I'm not naming your name of her. What are we going Let's call any grand, ok she's, like Annie. Have you heard anything about your mom like where you know I heard shoe com link, dude,
hurry from wish. Where is she you know anything, and I was like anyways and Annie was all like. You know she left a few weeks ago when you know we're not that concern. My dad said just like you know, met up with this group and gives you now air. Eventually, I am favourably with kind of like we're. Ok anyway, A few weeks later, I get an email from the school saying. Is mom did not join a cold. Ass. She was murdered by her husband, Annie's, dad who is, as the story goes wearing
I think it's nervousness added nervous. No sooner is Annie is Annie. Apparently suspicious of what was going on our house, apparently a foul. Stand and from her garage and you know have asnore down what is that? What is that? Apparently they kept ends in their backyard and he was claiming that one of the chickens had died and he just hadn't cleaned up the body or whatever so clearly, Annie smarter than and eventually it was very disturbed by air and called the police and The police showed up turns out her his body was in the garage. Apparently she was had a stuffed enough
sleeping bag with a plastic bag overhead that really penny stuck in her mouth and a tarp over her body that was duck taped bag of why bleach everything all right there apparently, when the police showed up, the dad was trying to leg block. I'm sorry side, no dad was an ex cop. Here we go living in the town that he worked for when the police showed up. I am assuming he was not happy to see. Is old colleagues trying to break into their garage and he had to be teased, ordered in use where they found this terrible c o my anyway is I guess, the Germans, the anti again to worry. She did not come back to her work as I know, and then, but now she is back at the school
apparently living an awesome life- and you know I'm not from her anymore was Mormon acquaintance type thing, but it was. Those things that was like, oh, my god, I know this person that this happened do and so obvious dynamic, saying, oh, my god, I can't believe I regard she gets. You gives hence my or carrying oh, you can give its now she has a job, great job, curly, apparently o awesome whereabouts, really fast, you got them so sweaty. Thank you so much for
everything you are it's so crazy that we say that every so yeah, but we're so thrilled that we get to do this. We have the best working time we love coming out and and actually meeting the people that listen to our insane podcast and the fact that you guys turn up the way you do. The way you sell out theatres this size for us is thank you so much so amazing where so throughout our so happy, I feel so lucky we gotta be a part of this. I think you guys for supporting us and we will area, we love you and stay sexy and likely
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