« My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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2016-05-27 | 🔗
Karen and Georgia's favorite murders this week are creepazoids Lawrence Singleton and Franklin Delano Floyd, and boy, do they fucking suck. Plus lots of small (murder) talk and personal stories plus all the staying sexy and not getting murdered you've come to know and love. Enjoy, murderionos!

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but I'm busy laughing my ass up. So you look so uncomfortable. Get comfortable just be aware, I think you're. Fine, ok, guys! Has everyone happy, let's you say or we're. Gonna take that whole per off no Erna we're gonna. My favorite murderer behind the scenes behind the scenes behind the crime scene. It's the this is the directors cut of my favorite murder. Learn a minute ago I wrote something down and I was like cracking myself. Oh yeah, I want yes, because, oh I guess fishing, the show you just did it did. I did and they now running, I'm I'm Chemical Gara said that's the voice or listening to right now carry we are like, I think, you're a gravelly sexy, Boyce yeah is trying to make its own kind of Saxony. You stay sexy them. I try not to get murdered.
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dance towards the end of the world. Yes, okay. So, like none of the car start anymore, because they're all electronic and computerized, and so once that shit cuts out you're going to have to fucking hot wire, a seventy two Datsun, that's right and get the fuck out of there. Ain't no sweat it stick shift, stick shift, get on a hill. You don't have to wire it. You take that does a break off you throw it into some remedy, start rolling down the hill and you pop it into gear, and it will go. I used to drive a happy little Vespasian. You'd have to do all that right, like a give it a running start yet just terrifying luckier yeah! You got a standard shift Nobody is to learn at an end of the world podcast us, it's much easier. It's one of those things were like you know when you were little and you did not tell time. You're like this is impossible. I'm never gonna learner when I was little recently It just takes me an extra beat you Think earlier. You don't think about it, but yeah
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All of that should get cut out. Ok now, starting now, I welcome to my favorite imperfect were the worst people still bad ass people over there look. I just trying to help you and relax after a long day, sir of work yeah we're doing a. I don't work, but wording You do gonna work and therapy today at work. I was it great. My new therapists should not know anymore, but you know when you said that the times I'm MIKE my therapy is the best is when I go in there being like. I don't know what the fuck we're going to talk about today, I'm doing great yeah, I'm feeling good like I don't have a thing to like bring to her and then it's like the best day of Yes, she has a kind of lines I do have some comes out and then you're like holy shit, because it can lead anywhere but suppose like here This problem right out me walk through at right. It's like that. It's the background to what to do.
You do bring her problem, she's gonna be like here little thing, as I have already told me when we didn't have anything to talk about that, are better the reason. You're doing this fuckin thing off Things can dawn on you when you have days like that, where you're talking and then you go wait a second That's why I got so husband for real. Yes, you can it was sex star. So I'll tell you after about it, that porn, I'm India opening up, but I don't wanna talk about it- is our rated acts. We haven't really gone into Sexton much personally on this on this package, I feel like that is not enough everything that's not our area. I feel like there's, probably plenty of podcast that do that even hands. Joke was very often for us and there's gotta be high schoolers. Listening to this end, it already love hand our jokes, oh yeah, ok,
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and then he is, is her name flossy ears, the other girls than Flossy. I dont know one's name flossy in that I love that name so much as Jean it. Ok, One girl is the girl whose crossed if you can get stay sex. Don't get murdered either I can add, gain wine. Here's the thing fuck everyone which I clearly need to buy. She is killed. Cross, stitching, which Keller Killer with a keg cross with a k and then stitching on Etsy, go by shit she's, an Indianapolis which prove me wrong that I thought nobody live there anymore yeah. She does. She does and good for her, and when will you guys think you fuckin listeners Eve s her you're killing it, and then I think it's for if if ass, the church name is not flossy than Flossy sullen. That's making the metal stamp right hand in fright, who I don't think I'm at sea, but it was she's going to her, but she put a picture up on the facebook page in their hearts and ere. The best station
You don't get murdered right on your key chain or wherever you might want to put it right and they feel like yeah. That's gonna, be the next shirt to be gotta ya. Gotta be people are clamouring for now we are going to get an official design going in and release that mother, I'm feeling a little emotional recoil from telling my period story. I think it was a mistake. You can cut it out. So stop talking about it. Ok by me, there's gonna be no like recall of William. Actually, let's leave. That part is not that I don't know they fuckin a minimalist and they're gonna. What are you talking about, eyes, oh age, more piece of housekeeping the eye. Comedy show at the Improv LAB witches in Hollywood at the improv there's a they ever, a room next to the main room called the lab and say June aid at ten p m mine and
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You guys mister Grey Period story, shake disgusting. Should we get into the murder. I dont have thing, as I mentioned earlier, they didn't know that was guys I'm going versus wake. I think your first. I think I am I get cuddled in yes, I'm gonna have this half a glass away. He drank some of your risky. I wish I could. I drank all mine. Already forty earth, but it was up beyond ninety. Ninety seven, I had my love. She asked God get at it. My therapist Tommy that we're doing an experiment where I'm drinking two glasses, there's a day is just to see how it goes. So, I'm glad at last a busy day that's! No more! No less yeah we're just sing at viscose, it's almost like, and what are you don't feel like? Oh no than die still have
of course it down here- and this is clearly like this- was two glasses and whisky in one big cap. Hans fund does not count as one it does to me, Mary ago, if I was there, a pest hell, yeah girl who keep I have this realization but when I was trying to think of this week's kiss get very like when I look at the Facebook page there. So many good cases and their summit, people of your passion about the cases that are their stories or just ones they like or think are fascinating. There was a guy that treaty me a case his at is twitter. Handle was at or can so Isms like Arkansas lawyer, and it was a case of I think his name was Bobby Lee, Foster Bobby Joe Foster, who killed his own mother, Edna and decay. The data and put the head in the local church and then took the eye is an mailed them to Eisenhower and in actual fact yet it was crazy, but
So I was kind of India that thank you for sending out. I love it. I mean it I'm, but I had a realisation that when we Talking about our kick off murders, though the goddess kind of into it. I realized that factually and date wise at an earlier one then Diane towns, and it is because it in the Bay area, and it's this Lawrence Singleton Attack on Mary Vincent later? Murder of? allow just tell you about it. Lets unpack. Let's unpack This is happening. Nineteen, seventy eight! So I was eight years old and this was on the news. It was like in nineteen. Seventy nine is when he went to trial and all the stuff. And it was on the news every night. My parents,
four livid they talked about it all the time you must have just been. You are there to yes, because it was. We watch the news together as a family every night, before dinner, feathers, nothing more harmful for a kid you had. No one knew I now it was This is the late seventies, where no one knew what was good or bad for children's early. It was all just like eat. Your cereal go outside, try to survive, come home and then we'll watch the news together. I was a generation away from children, but factor children being coal, minors, sick I couldn't was: where was weird time in between coal mining and children being carried out. Entire lives until they get to call it. Drape essentially so I'm the last of the last, that generation I lived so Here- story. On September, twenty, ninth nineteen, seventy eight- a man named Lawrence Singleton, who was a merchant seamen always a job that Richard Speck was a merchant Siena who really yeah there. It's bad news. I think it's what happens when you're like super fast
up any, but you're. So fucked up you dont, want to join the army. Sear like all go out on a ship for awhile with budget deal here, so he picked up a general hitchhiker named Mary Events in Berkeley, California, honey, Mary had run away from home. She lived in LAS Vegas. Her parents are getting divorced, is all fucked up and she friends in the Bay area and relatives, so she made her way up to the barrier, but she was homesick she'd been on our own for a while. She had a boyfriend that was bad to her. She she left him ran away. She just wanted to get back home sweetie, so she is hitchhiking in Berkeley, and a van pulls up, and there are two p hitchhiking behind her. Now, just so, you know, there's Mary Vincent herself tell this story. On an episode of I survived. It was season for episode one way and it is epic
I know you don't like survivors. I thought him love survivors and things like that's where you get there first hand account of something this story is also insanely fucked. I guess, if their. If she's it's been that long, I Kyoto with it Ray and she's in it's one. They can tell their own story there. Now, You know that that their able in charge of this narrative They can tell you what happened and unlike when it's a grizzled fuckin bar tender like They waitress in she's like this. This is what I can happen in me. I can deal with it, but once like some, like college girl, his life, his royal end, now you will because here's the thing this sad as part about it but the truest part about it. Is it happens to a lot of people. So when you have one woman sitting there going to be the here's, what happened me ABC Andy? You not we get the don't fuckin hitchhike keep your eyes open, pick up on contact clues. You have all that, but you also have survived
and you can survive and you can't come out the other and I hope other view. Am it's? Ok, it's ok. To tell your story like you. Don't have to keep this huge secret, there's other people who have been through similar or worse yen and you have. To tell your story ass part, that's part of the healing right, so so a lot of what I have here basically her first hand accumulation, so the Van pulls up and there's too hitchhikers behind her Berkeley. Seventy eight and the guy that driving the Van says he only has room for one person and says it's Mary. While the two hits because behind her go, don't get not that because they can see into the back of the Van the whole thing's empty. There's. Every time, but a person saying he only has room for the young girl. They go. Don't take them, right, but she was so tired. She just wanted to get home she was there and he looked like a grandfather. Really, yes, he's a big part, though
can a grisly old guy he was like it is. Mid sixties at the time, so she's Ipod Zack, I gonna do so she gets in and she really tired: she's been walking in hitchhiking for a long time so she says, I'm I'm trying to go back home to LAS Vegas. He says all good you I'm going to Reno, but I'll give you a ride to LOS Angeles, which is that that right there, what that has made It doesn't make any sense way, so she settles in and she fell asleep. Don't do it don't do it she wakes up and they have gone east and not south she finally sees assign there somewhere out Patterson there somewhere out by Modesto there there on the others. Of the five there's lotta for people not from here those lot, especially so this latter no man's land. Yes, a lot of especially in the central Valley, which is where he drove her out to its just all em
a rural farmland, roads little hills were the oak tree on top there's nothing so so she is notices that they're going EAST chief freaks out confront some says what the hell you doing, He says, I'm sorry, I'm an honest man. I made an honest, honest mistake. Let me turn around, poles around. It turns around starts going down there only he says sorry I have to go. I have to relieve myself: he the Van over she's getting nervous, She realizes this is now about situation. It's it's nighttime, he's down relieving himself and she stout and realizes one of her shoes untied and she thanks to herself, if I have to run for some reason- and I could out round this old fat guy- but if I have to do it, hurt cheese I That's how my she says she gets out of until she benzel retire shoe and she blacks out. He hid her in the head with a sledgehammer she wakes up she's tied up in the back
of the van after sledgehammer hit. She wakes up. She wakes up, so you just cocksure out yeah. She doesn't like, thank God, Junior she's. When she wakes up she's, tied up and she's naked fuck. Any surgery bear he rapes, her all night and in the morning and the whole time. She's, of course, Christ. Fifteen you Old, crying whatever and saying just set me free, please, I won't tell anyone just set me free sometime in the morning when he finally done poles or out of the Van untie, Sir and says you wanna, be set free all set you free, picks up a hatchet now out of the back of the Van cuts off her left arm. She's screaming below the album she's screaming freaking out going crazy. She grabs him with her right.
Arm Goya breaking out. He takes the hatchet, search, hacking off her right. What about me? where the craziest is buildings. Alzheimer's, unlike remind myself that she survive, but it doesnt sound outline owing to. I know it's it's crazy, so she is holding onto him, but she falls backwards anyway. And that's when she realizes that her right hand has been our right arms. And chopped off so she's. All of course, in total shock confused losing blood. Looking and this is the most about that part of the warriors more in fact of the matter this is it go it peaks and fucked up ness right here who wish She sees him she's looking and like she can't understand what just happened and she's can't him, and he is looking his arm like this- is flicking his arm out. Yes, no, she looks and her right hand is still holding onto his r o, my fucking. You are just
I gave myself chosen. I know this story because you had your handed unlike ideology. I did it so She passes out. Are she liked kind of goes lamp. Sure, she's bleeding, obviously profusely losing blood lighthouse lying on the ground, so she just goes limp cause. She just doesn't know what to do now in the presence of monster. He thinks she's dying or dead. He dragged her body over to the railing and throws her over thirty front, cliff on the way down? She breaks for ribs and drives away now later on when the police catch him, which state I'll just let you off the hook. Now they please get police catch him. And they put together that the reason he did. That is because he thought she'd be dead and they did. He didn't want them to be able to guarantee fingerprints. What book
Ok, who found her? How did that she had found? I tell you now please so she's down in this fuckin ravine, and she's lying there and she's losing blood like crazy and she wants. Go to sleep but she said that There's a voice in hers head saying: you cannot go to sleep, you have to get up, so they can catch the sky, so she puts her bloody stumps in the dirt and them and me Some mud pack stops losing blood- oh my god, on both on both arms and then she starts crawling back up the ravine. Thirty feet it. Picture all night. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that was the morning he dumped her over in the morning, so she crawled back up their ravine it. If we take our all day, she finally gets up to the top of the ravine and back onto the road at night, and then she starts walking
naked covered in blood with to stump arms. She walked for three miles like the first car. The came up was to deeds. Convertible and they saw her now I fucking sped away. No, yet yes and she said herself in this I survived she. I looked like something out of horror movie she's like I didn't blame them at all, because she it was, I mean beyond something, you'd see an arm of the air and on an about a far away like a dead, deserted road in the middle of the night, where there's no it. This is out where there's no Treat lights? There's your eat, like she said she was walking by the light of the moon in my mind, you it's like these two decades, our married men and their gay lovers, and there like a chronic glands,
find me no romance thing and if they stopped to help her, they have to call the cops are going to get caught together. Let's just in my head, that's it that's very feel like. Hopefully, these aren't monsters here's what I'm sure of they carry with them this day yesterday imagine leave I personally and when they read the mate newspaper the next day and there lay like look what we did and she could have died. They will have saved her and then she could attire. But here's who did savour who she walks. A further a couple who was on our honeymoon on another who took the wrong exit, and is driving around trying to get back to the eye? Five o, which is close enough? That Mary heard the the ways of the eye on all day and was like. I just have to get back up because there will be. Someone if I walked toward that sound. So that's how she guided herself back toward
civilization. These. These people grab her put her in the back of a truck and say we're going. Get you help and she said she heard them speeding so far she could here the tile tyres screeching they get to a phone. Can, I say, rockwork yet half the people listening that their Marinos, yet during honeymoon exactly like What are you I'll see if I can play com Well, because imagine you you're, like oh I've, merit I love him, so my he's the man for me now, if the man for You was one of those guys in that convertible ray. You do like we to get out of here, you'd be like get out of my life forever. I bet they're still together, Hunters Here they get her, they get to that pay phone, they call and they left her to the hospital. I wasn't even an ambulance situation. There were like straight in so oh honey,
Furthermore, leave she must have thought oh my god I to be saved. So she sorry I'm on the next page. Already is yours by I won't ever now, you're like fuckin telling this you're not obligatory turnouts, because this because I remember this happening when I was little English. My I remember my mother so limit, and she would talk about Lawrence Singleton, this disgusting piece of shit? She would talk about him. All the time may cause I'll get into, I should have as all this was all these were all these details on the new. No, but it was. It was a man who raped a girl chow Their arms often threw her into a debt just, and that was plenty because you can't that's when it was like. Oh my That could happen, motorway, that's real, even word ray, don't even talk about like couples and in fucking sitcoms didn't sleep in the same bed right exactly
Well, I'm not from the fifties: Georgia. Only Ireland, the Brady Bunch, was the. God, so she lost over half the blood nor body how but it from her hospital bed. She described a picture of him so accurately to the peat police catch, artist that Lawrence Singleton next door, neighbor sigh immediately called the police haven. Oh, she was friends with him and like new him for years. She was like that's Lawrence. Singleton. That's my next morning, she's one of us. So if has exactly so- and I do have to say this in the local that I found that it a piece of information. For some reason in the line it said housewife. Bowling expert. Why I want your life. They really described her to a t I really what I want that life and, if that's pretty good lawyer, so they arrest losing learn Singleton nine days later, I liked com Larry Larry, and
and he was questioned, Singleton told them please that Mary was a ten dollar whore that that he was passed out drunken his van and that his other front Larry is the one that attacked her and that there were two other hookers in the van at the time. What fucking? monster lunatic, so she tested as against him in court, get a girl with two prosthetic two prosthetic limbs on should already been fitted for them. She was still a teenager. I mean that, and that is a hard thing to do on its own analysis of this as she walks out after testifying against Hampshire. He whispered to her. If it's the last I do I'll finish. The job as happened. She'd, say mother, Fucker, something at him now poor she ran out so in March nineteen. Seventy nine is San, Diego jury, convicts him of kidnapping mayhem, attempted murder
forcible rape, sodomy enforced oral population And gives him with maximum sentence at the time. I guess you guys are items, keep interrupting no, no seven years, fourteen years for all of that, for all of those crimes combined maximum legal sentence was fourteen years. That's like almost how old she was Yes, that's exactly right, so the judge who had to Pass that certain said. If I had the power, I would send him present for the rest of his natural life. So, along with the particularly gruesome, callous aspects of the crime that case became tone the notorious because he was paroled, after serving a year. In prison. She asked can't. Ok, this is when is shit, went off because that's when it started on the new every night, this guy
upper old and it was like my parents- talked about it. People talked about in the grocery store. It was like. How is this happening, and you know what happened is a nineteen eighty? Three they passed away. Incentive law kind of quietly past it so that they could reduce Prince overcrowding where a day cut off your sentence for each day that the prisoner spent working at the jail, or you could Pot legal and get a bunch of fucking prisoners, out of jail exit. That's exactly like the murderers and rapists go. Therefore, fucking ever lie in God's name which have a work. Incentive law apply, tomb, attempted murder or rapists will. This is back when they were like rape, probably hurt she probably asked for it. She was hardly a ten dollar whore right mother fuckers, so they announce the his release day. This is Ed Martin, who is the associate warden of the California men's colony in San Luis Obispo, where he was on
serving his time his release date. Martin said, if there is continued good behaviour and work Change is programmes will be approved. Certainly April twenty Eightth, which was eight years four months of time. Every one of the barrier went banana, so here's what happened there, pearl him to Antioch California, the mayor, protests, the Department of Corrections and so acknowledging the public outcry, the department, a correction. Agrees, not released, Singleton Nanny Antioch, so they tried play. Some relatives and Temple Florida people right up and Temple Florida and the temperature the guardian angels, which was a big thing in the member them. They lead these protests and eventually Florida officials reject the probably say like he can't go backwards
camp and, if you're a fuckin, if the hell's, but as a health angels, no, the guardian angel Atwater, though they were this, they will be worth. I thought you mean thousand Hell's everyday were basically when the in the eighties, when crime was crazy, it was basically at the end of the recession. When thing What kind of shit like back when we York was a total dump, guardian angels, where this group of basically, what do you call them like like mothers against? driving type a thing. None are no. These were, I can't think of the term for It was time by the way which was not in any hurry. It will lick it just law and at just things, but nobody thinks Carter. What's wasn t your time, everything's like no but it was them they were like
you're, like a citizen, is taking want their own hands order. Those call like I am citizen taking on air, so they basically we're like we're taken back the streets, so they would go. They were red, berries and shirts, its guardian angels. They all knew karate, they all they're, all like muscled out dude and they would ride the subway at night, timid Joanna that lake vigilante bear it is there they were total vigilantes and they basically were like their own gang but a positive gang. So they just major like that. People, get attacked on the subway, and every city started popping up with their own group of the guardian angel has had a gun. Eventually, of course, they dispersed, because I think they, things a little too far, I as it usually happens, but anyway they did. They actually did some good stuff in them. Where people there were there weren't enough cops and there's a lot of crime. So
So he s to come back from Tampa. Florida, which is worse, family was the they Temple was like go fuck yourself, and you know Florida kicking out you're, probably a big, pretty big piece of shit. So then, he, where do you go so Then they try to release him in Martinez, California and which is also in contrast, the county, so the country can contract Mr County Board of Supervisors and force the council members when temporary restraining order from a superior court judge, barring the deeper corrections for placing Singleton anywhere, in contrast, accounting quit bringing that motherfucker, I he's not allowed. I ain't going to happen so so now they try to place them in San Francisco, but police chief police chief Frank, Jordan at the time he's told that that they're gonna brings gotten to sound just go for a cup. Weeks and several just go. That temporary, a restraining order barring
from San Francisco. So then they take him, redwood city secretly, but reporters find out that he's there in a hotel and pro Esther surround the hotel and the department, persons has to pull him out. Hotel and get him out or the protesters ripped apart. One of em are to be one of those cops and willing. I fucking hate that protect our now he's a share. So now the quarter appeals turn that restraining order saying that content ass, the county and scientists go couldn't have em they're. So then they try to play someone else Cerrito, but he's not in contrast county, that's a little bit further north. I think, but the Contra caustic Honey officials find out that they're gonna try to play some in El Dorado and they tell the Elsa Cerrito. They tell the press and also Cerrito. So then Prodi begin their. So basically now We ones telling everybody there trying to place this piece of shit in the North Bay and
everybody. So then they try to put it enrichment, but the mayor, finds out and the officials are like fuck no get him out of here. Then try to bring him to up a city called Rodya which I've never even heard of boner doesn't even exist, but people now and a mob of five hundred people gathered around this apartment and they also have to take him out in a bullet proof vest and his escorted out town by the sheriffs department. So it was. This is kind of that thing were yes. This is the kind of the worst story ever, but also the greatest story. Ever warlike, just the citizens were like no dude like? Maybe that maybe legislature says what that you can get out of jail but say now, so they movement Gerda home. Seventy five people gather at the hotel where, keeping him there. Finally, the guy manoeuvres says, put a trailer
on the grounds of San Quentin and make a live there until his parole is over elaborate, Jerry Brown, George dude major, I M, so that but he has to do, is to live on the grounds of San Quentin until his one year. Parole is up then he's go where we want the feminine owning it will not even a track. Will then there's just kind of nothing they can do because nothing in this system about him. So he US back to Florida and when he gets. Ere they find out that is their people protest car dealer offered him five thousand dollars to leave the state and homemade bomb? Was detonated, merit the house that he was staying and even that, but no one was entered, unfortunately Papa, in ninety ninety seven, a neighbor calls police after seeing Lit Lawrence Singleton attacking a woman in his home please, sir. They find the body of thirty one year old mother of three rocks
behind she's also a sex workers, but I want to say the mother three part first, so that people care so that they now that she so hard up for money Financial problems made it so that she had to do this right and then she got stuff. Twelve times in the base impressed by this piece of shit and when he s the door. He answered the door to the cops with assured, open and blood Oliver's, just how they, how many called cases can be attributed to him like this Don't there's no way that it was one in seventy eight. Well, they say that the reason that he got parole the way he early like that was because he didn't have. He Didn'T- have priors up he didn't have no, which is not to say he didn't, do it re, but they didn't. You didn't have a record still, I think,
having offered girls, arms and leaving a road that is like worse than your prior for, like aggravated us all to remember, and I think you're right- it's not that's, not a first crime now that all especially when you're sixty INA liquor, starting in oh yeah, no way Also, if you're in the merchant Marines, God knows it and fucking Malaysia or someplace, where nobody, you know you can do whatever you why Vietnam bet that fuckin half of as killings over him. Ok, some merry Vincent goes. Two tampered to appear at his sentence. Saying that tells her her fucking story are all she describes are whole attack the whole. The the tone but the ordeal has taken on her whole life because of course it's been, you note to a terror and
she's. You know she's gotta, her life together a little bit, but of course you just lives in constant fear her when she was when he was parole that she was doing fine and going to art school in the Pacific Northwest Match, and then he got paroled and she fell apart, as he said, to her ass. She left the court room. I'm gonna finish this. If it takes it s, my life I'll finish the job like yeah. Isn't that considered when he's when they, you think he's going up her pearl? So the jury eight deliberated for one hour and he was sentenced to death because good old Florida good so Unfortunately, he died of cancer in the prison hospital. Instead of being fried, were very or very vision, and then we really are, and this one but apparently what he said in when he was sentenced. He said he did. He denied mutilating Mary Vincent he still denied it not killing her. Just me living
Mary events and is the girls arms he chopped off? Yes, he denies doing that, but he said about the stabbing of haze. I'm sorry about that death in this case I'll to carry it on my conscience. The rest of my life is the death To that end, the narcissistic move right. This is sad for me. The Diane Downs move, so just a rabbit Mary Vincent did when a two point: five six million dollar civil judgment against Singleton, but she can collect, because He was unemployed in poor health and only had two hundred dollars and saving course not. So he did eventually get married shooter
county. She has two sons and she started the Merry Vincent Foundation to help victims of dramatic crime, sweetie yeah poet, poor girl, I'm crazy that leg. She would have been better off stealing a car and getting a misdemeanor. Then, when hitchhiking, you can't asked old man that look like grandfathers and ears, and I think I was thinking about like when he she had a bad feeling. Stop to pee and get out of the thing about that is as like. If you have a bad feeling do what you need to do and apologize for it later like steel, the car and drive the fuck off apologize later. If it turns out, he wasn't, gonna kill you right treasure got yeah. If you have to
oh some guy off at a bar because he's giving me the creeps, but you dont want to be rude blow him off and apologize later. If it turns out that he wasn't agree, because if he's not a creep, it won't be a problem. I actually yeah. That's intense sino. Crazy and if you want to see, if you can, you can watch on. I survived Mary Vincent tell that story yourself. I might have to sort watching that thing is about Turkey she says that I really dont like reenactments, there's, no way it's the people telling the story and they do they start the as segment with a picture or where actually happen, yeah and it's all straight to camera storytelling. It's pretty brilliantly produced I got no idea back. Tell you that your proof gang that is a big one, consulting a collective breath anyone who use the bathroom go use it now.
All right, my favorite murder, or so I was scrolling through the Wikipedia page of mysterious appearance as one does before bed shoe. Wouldn't you have insomnia and I came across a really interesting case. I had never heard about and there are so many twists and turns and will weirdness about this- that I was treatment really excited, tell us a little bit out of order. I'm gonna leave the exciting thing to the end because they began the whole thing is fucked up to begin with, so the murder of Sharon Marshall by Franklin, Delano, Franklin Delano, Roosevelt, the Loi, which is like no wonder, you're a murderer parents so close. It's almost like making show your kids a narcissist by naming him almost after a president yeah right. So contained
sixty two, the sky Franklin Delano I was nineteen years old is the worst name. It's the worse! Now, let's call him. Floyd was convicted of adapting sexually molesting a four year old girl in Georgia, piece of shit, disgust, He received a lengthy prison sentence and with one you within one year it escaped the present, robbed bank was arrested, he served ten years released on parole occurs, appear before is not young enough to be a second in prison forever in one month of freedom, he was charged with assaulting a woman and He got away so nineteen nine, be his wife Sharon Marshal was found, dad and a suspicious hit and run right. So this is where it starts and he had sent. His wife Sharon on a late night shopping trips.
Baby items said a child's gather, oh good the child with the baby rape as a threat. I don't know if she knew that are an iota. So she was murdered on her way back to the hotel they were spent in the night ass. She appeared to be hit by a car. Yet there was a blunt force trauma to the back of her had enough to cause the death unrelated to the car accident. So after she dies. Her child Michael he which floor was a clear suspect in kidnapped the kid he was cheap IRAN, son Michael Hughes, I'm sorry that centre he put their two year old son into foster care and fuck and highly hi tailed it out of their because he was a suspect. The kid goes and I foster care the foster care parents, love him and and decide to start adoption proceedings front for him. He like thrived there where he got there. He was
like so developmental it'll, delayed because this guy was piece of shit. Floyd was arrested on parole violation and then, as but the adoption process, the kid was how did dna test and it was compared Floyd's and it turns out that Floyd is not the rule. Other than Islamic. Had well so when he is released from jail, he tries to regain custody and he can't because he's not the bad. Then, on September, twelve nineteen, eighty four, this indeed comes in to the elementary school where this kid s day holds that has a gun takes the kid by force, gets him the fact there are still some kid. You should see this thing's photos on him he's such a creep, not the kids back and forth. So two months later, Floyd rested in Kentucky, and the kid is not with him hasn't been seen. Sense. Floyd report Writ tells like
differing story, a sum that he had drowned the kid in the motel bathroom after the kidnapping, others say that he told them many murder the kid in the same manner, so heat had admitted that took up a people, have a person claims he saw Floyd Berry, Michael's body and a cemetery which is like? How do you witness that? Never than you don't tell anyone till the cops, I don't know in its most recent contact with the FBI, floods and minutes a killing Michael by shooting twice in the back of the head. I'm he told him where to find Michael's remains, but and two decades since then, and they haven't found anything. So that's the story. Of sharing the mom and Michael the kid ok superseding around yes and so the third in That is the murderer of I'm see your first name shit, first name O Cheryl, an Camacho at the time of her hit and run death,
Sharon is a stripper, but I mean before us that I want to say that she went to college was gonna, be an engineer, she's, a very smart person. I think something happened with her crazy husband, she's making money stripping in outsmart like nothing wrong with fucking making money stripping that's your career, but anyways, nineteen, eighty, nine one of shit. Thanks, coworkers disappears. She's eighteen years old, Cheryl on some one had witnessed a angry confrontation, confrontation with Lloyd and the co worker. The our aid and the co worker comments. Comments, Camacho, Cheryl Culture so Cheryl disappears in ninety nine Floyd. An sharing get the fuck out of town. It remain and solve and tell her skeletal remains were found by landscaper,
Florida in nineteen. Ninety five and she was a citizen, Jane DOE. No one knew she was when the remains were identified and then in March, a year in the same year, a mechanic in Kansas finds a large envelope stuff between the truck bed and the top of the gas tank of a truck he had recently purchased at auction, which was like here s gap, he finds out. Don't I mean just finding stuffed in places my Irian Jaya pressure, like you know where I think you can find them, is when you go into a weird Thurman, there's this seat, the toilet, seat, holder, young people's, like shoved drugs and money for drugs in those as like. I'm gonna go in the bathroom and shut the drugs in there. Come out. You're gonna put the money in their, but I'm not a pause. I've heard that before you remained in the toilet tank where the water is no, that too, but in the weather, will you pull the toilets cover? oh, yes,
yeah, I'm saying yes behind the paper cover sacrificing. They met at a price In a private that agreement does not think the pink furry cut that, like your grandma, puts on that matter back, you know when you go into a gas station on, they have the pink for it. Cover or like unknown is Lubber Brent. You know those fund, but those fund gas station Kiki, so the mechanic fines fucking amazing fine inside he finds ninety seven photos in the envelope, including many a woman who is bound and severely beaten. They trace the place, traced, the truck back to Floyd a course and the emphasis investigators. Compare the photos of the injured woman with capacity as well as evidence down with her remains, and the clothing a similar to what she was wearing. There is also. I turn belongings and the photos that were identified as Floyd's and the medical examined.
Compare the injuries he in the photograph to the cheekbone that they have found of this deal with army. In the same this, the remain Jane DOE. So they were consistent. She had died from beating and two gunshots to the head again to gunshots. Looking at a patter, it kills ha. That's the m Was eating army? Oh really, kill shot? I don't know about that two shots to the back of an that's the thing, then that's how you just take someone out the inflaming. Look at them in the face and while it also does that's for sure, that's one one, there is a possibility. Some good weirdly live now to know the right. Ok, so. He a Florida's, try to convicted for this girl's murderer. Thank God, commences. Murder, on that, based on the photographic evidenced in the truck- their photos found in the truck, though, show such
we'll, be use of martial? Who was his wife who died in the hen run right? I mean Linnea, this weird thing, his wife, but the picture start, and this is where it goes thunder the pictures of marshal and being sexually abused, start at a very early age when she's in her childhood land right, ok, sexual explicit poses various ages starting around four of his wife age, four of his dead, now dead, wife, what the going on turns out. Floyd man a divorced woman with three daughters and Sun son in nineteen. Seventy four: when Sharon is like four in the lead spring of seventy five sandy. The mom is arrested in Dallas for rating a bad check for diapers and people on the internet like haven't, that happened, did Floyd it got all the money from the account and sent her on the shopping trip in the check you now
like meaning and sat set up when she she's in prison for Sir EL for thirty days, while she's their second Floyd disappears with all Ray sisters and the infant brother. He had fled and left to care which don't ever leave your children in the hands of a boy for an hour care how fuckin policing was no doll, John, no one with the name. Floyd metal? Our last help. Please when she is released. She sees that the second children are gone he had, but to the door earth and foster care. She finds them there, but the butts but Suzanne Sharon and the little boy argon and shoe she tries to file a kidnapping charge. We ok, here's the Maastricht that part of the whole fucking thing. The local authority said that
the step. Father Floyd had a right to take the children high nineteen. Seventy four losing money is a shared as a whole. So Floyd raised Sharon as his daughter early childhood, and if you go online, you can find a photo like a portrait of him with her as a four year old on his lap, dna testing to determine her paternity went after she died and covered that she was not his daughter and he gave a number of inconsistent statements regarding hush came into custody. She he told everyone that he had rescued her when she was abandoned by her about biological parents, which is probably what he told her as well. But the problem is, that the little boy was never no one knows what happened to him. So it's not likely that he's doing well,
So the earliest known record of her after that, if of Sharon was when she was registered in nineteen, seventy five and Oklahoma City High school, and if you look at her high school photo she's, clearly not high school age. I think he was kind of trying to fudge some stuff and they choose to old. She's very young. She looks, may two young shocks junior high. If so, I think he is like trying to throw some on offer. Something like that virtue established as being eighteen is responsible and registering her under an alias that they had a ton of aliases nazis. They are suspect that marshal was born. That Sharon is born in a late sixties, kidnapped between seventy three. Seventy five then they leave town again she becomes his fucking. Why, then, I mean it's not even like cool that she gets too. Like then figure out who she is. He fucking hits and runs her and kills where the car
and wait. Sorry was that. Did he do that because she was there some over reason. We don't know. Maybe he found out that her son wasn't his because go back to that that was in foster care who he could not tell Ray. I'm right right right up the dna testing to prove that it wasn't even his kids, chinamen sleeping with some centrally cheated on re, this person that she didn't even want to be with rivers, and maybe he was even horning her out like in making money So we don't know what happened, but that wasn't his kid. That sounds like a pretty get mad at me. Yeah! That's in Saint wait what happened to him? so he still lie no yeah he's, but creepy other factors in jail. Though plea he's on death row bucking Jesus Christ. I now he's on throw for the murder of they I'm Camacho area. So,
oh cause. They found her body in this picture. Razor lank, I'd like they weren't like, which shows a strip are so he only gets four years like she's out he's on death row. I'm here still under investigation into the kidnapping of her son and the mother. Sharon yeah, unlike after stuff, Sharon die. They did dna testing on her and found out that she was the missing child that this poor fucking woman who data a piece of shit. Oh my god help her rays for children that she was dealing with on her bucking on and then are yeah. I what, in the I have never heard of this before its reason. He's still alive.
Which one is so sorry ones like, when did she get hit by a car she got hit by a car? He hid her with a car right and a sledgehammer exactly he. It was a hidden run in April. Nineteen. Ninety o far yeah so like Reese Reese, I mean I guess I was For some reason was picturing the dislike the fifties re. These would seem like the kind of time you could get away. That's in Santo nineteen nineties hit and run took the kid by gunpoint these poor. You know this poor foster parents who were trying to this poor kid who was thriving in their home? They were fostering him and it wanted to adopt and because they cared about him so much and they are stuck Will it also this piece of shit takes him and then eventually kills them like just leave him with the foster.
Here. Unless I mean that's like that, it that's the monstrosity of whatever that guy in earnest assigning nurses, but just like the at that violent pedophile. It's like that, the highest strata of in Hell. Sickly of violence in saying pedophile, it's so crazy. What I mean it's oh hard to think of a brain and a thought process and a mine that deviates that far from your own, like I can't even picture it, it makes you I mean, can they picture being normal is like Are we normal? Is it what is more more? Well, it's not that guy I'll. Tell you that right now, yeah That makes you want to start up a vigil, Anti club called the guardian, no barriers- that's not clever! Lorries are stupid used What about we made it sale upsetting it's actually findings, so
I'm listening to this book on tape, audio books like deal forever like stone unturned about macro search, huge uncovers, clandestine graves, it's a great book about these people who who find buried bodies. When I'm driving in the car cuz. I get stressed out when I drive. I put that on or put a murder podcast on, and then, when I forget my book or don't listen, don't have time to listen to podcast I put on like NPR and then, or the news and like immediately and like I can't this is so Let me deal with like are even for sleep. Sometimes too, that's like murders. The minutes. I think I wrote that I think that's part of realising why, I love murder and the story. So much is that the real world and what's really happening and what I have absolutely no control over.
Is so terrifying and there's no control, but you can not walk alone at night. You can, you know, carry pepper spray with you, you can make sure you keep door's locked my doors and not locked right. Now I just looked over we'll, but every it's because, every murder story that you read and all that information you gather forms you so that you know a little bit more next time right, but you can't do anything like that. China is is, is being arm, but no They are weapons. You can't be like well next time, I'm not gonna yet I would China now think they ve always had nuclear weapon right, but by what he can do about that, rightly right, that's just posturing. That's the thing is what and you about that: nothing, no, never
but in this you can be like. If I ever get into a situation right, you know you you it's, let's just being able to have your lake, your guard up better every single time, yeah, and if something does happen, you know you were you at least tried for had some control over it. Somehow right, you're informed so crazy. I now that guy they should kill him tomorrow, Franklin Delano, Floyd, piece of shit peace. This My favorite murder piece of shit, serious where even Larry was an open and frank on down. Floyd we didn't mean to do a theme at ought to yeah. That's that's a magical theme here. We are well aware, matching up on like wavelengths of shit, crazy. I was allowed rhyme Well anything
but when a no go by a t, yeah that'll make you feel better after that shit show. That should be that it is plunder, t shirts and at the end of its like an awful thing. What do we do? We have now? I'll keep sending us you're I want a murders, even though we have read them the number, the numbers game on that one is much more narrow, because now we Sometimes don't even read them, but we are starting to make many ease and having fun with them their sir you will get to them, were making the episodes of your hometown murders, I have to say in reading them once a day do when they have a really good subject line when it's not just hometown murder, it's like fucker gets bury you don't like it, I'm funny who hang a more likely to click on it,
when their short and sinks, yet just get to the point that he be as it yeah, and it's like an any good story like that. Just include the facts that matter so be it quickly and funny, and almost like an surprised and be yourself, but I would say if you are passing up the six paragraph Maria work. That's gonna, be it or in our tough time idea. Here we can give people guidelines, Gatt I like com, guideline tagline guidelines together like yeah, but we love them and we're gonna make. I think, we're trying to many episode, many so each week. You know about my mind is that there are just so many and people are just so excited. Just tell them. I know no one ever acts the acts axiom of work, there will also be you realize, like you done, I've asked friends
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