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With everyone. We have all been operating in the weirdest world and we adjusted to it so like I did even think when we first made that plan, I think you're, the one that was like hey. We should record together now and it was like our we allowed. I was I was. I didn't even think too. Do it now we ve just been like it's been a slog that we ve gotten so used to that we stop realizing. It was still US law, yes and it still like mentally fucking taxing to live in this crazy new world. So taxing, let's find a little bit of happiness and brightness where we can, because we want forgotten where we can get it. Yeah, listen equal right, because unless it's like sitting in front of your television try. They discover some do norwegian police procedure of a personal example like I don't know something here: girl, woman, yeah. It's just that difference. It's almost like these real actual, a real exam

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you're just not going to get a lot of time with you, and I have never known you like fashion. Here's don't worry about it here, my suggestion. I think we can all the things, because, when I use or vengeance dresses in the early nineties on drugs variant or in part of never worry vintage shoe, because I have wide I've large wide fino vintage shoes were made to oppress women, young securely and sensible many cup current choose as well through so the whole thing of lake, a grandma press with combat below the child's right, as is made for me in a way I am or like high top converse off. Shore love it or the key issue were bring. It know what happened to you. It's not ever happening again, the only time everyone I'm heels is for it like a parade

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this video game, opening my gonna get murdered for saying that, probably for lots of in this area, because these are passionate cable, but I have almost none about to say about a real. You won't believe this is not a lot What do I don't like the opening titles Equant solely because skip it every time, because that's what I do watches opening titles in one does not have the option to skip, and if they don't have the up you just kept. Do I get angry? Yes, I do true. I agree with you and all that, but artistically you know I've always been open, then interested in opening title does not always just look at how and look at it and go. How would I do that if I d start tomorrow, I wouldn't where possible at first. I don't want that job, so I quit I just really,

That's how I watch all tv. Ok go ahead. Well, that's cause. You actually work in tv all feels like a job. I was supposed to get done two weeks ago and so, like I watch that opening tunnel sequence of like I can't do it, I don't know how it would work for you. Let it go Europe. But I know you no one, except that you are a career pine. And the relief I feel because I've always loved by getting sit out. You were those good ok. Now, let's walk ass through when you first turn down the episode one. What are you expecting and what did you see? Well, let me tell you: coming go pre that yeah. This is an important part of it, and I would love to thank everyone on Twitter because I'm ok without a town this. What passed we can do

Fuckin Wrestling Park ass. You thanks germ, we watch rustling, we want dressing. Please won't take a lesson. Please listen to it. So I was like this be great he's seen it before is not interested wherever our. So then, my Ere long Jimmy spend the night. I know you get scared along, like I wasn't scared of Should I like, I want him to feel useful, were you know it, Might I learn I so the gas within it so then I go on Twitter, like hey, everyone is The EP is old wine of game of bronze and ok showed awash with my dad is, I remember sums words like there's some sex stuff it at an I just guy four hundred comments of people, saying God, no, please don't watch it with Marty. Do not do it. I still can't look at my Father in law on the eye because we wash together just don't do it incest, everyone was like just don't fucking gets out. We watched, I only murders in the building. Is that an ogre, a great father daughter, shall self. Finally, Saturday, I can no plans.

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more maybe behind the times, and then say you can tell him that with that there I would make I'm turn around and look at you have to get that gave us a vague and the other thing. I text you personal you tax me, hey. I sent you. Basically all the research that's been ever dime about game of Brown serve me to follow, along which really appreciated that I was like. Oh shit, Karen's really invested. Unless I have to do this well, I'm indefinitely rested and that visual chart you'll like it was theirs. Pinterest. Visual charts of the different houses is when you don't. Actually any reference. Yeah, it's baffling it's like watching. You know is of our lives. Starting now. That's right! That's the other thing about it. Is you telling me last week that it's like a soap opera made me not? take it seriously, so I liked it better and their ways it and that's not how things like that happen and that so stupid and there's over acting above about other. I was like this is a fucking soap. Opera, yes loved it,

sent you a text of this bitch. I thought of a gift of what's his name, Jeffrey, that's right, less badge, and I am not you added like and then I like that I want to keep watching. I can't believe, I'm so glad. I can't believe it either. Can we talk for one moment about what a star turn this role is for petered includes she It is my favorite gonna love him. Love accuse like nice. John Snow that he is like cruel to other everyone else, which one do you believe about. Ham will have giants now that I am only fucking shit when he sat. He has these lines when he says things like I am. I have a soft spot for broke. Can and discarded things like it's just a beautiful there, some beautiful storytelling and character that he's such a little caught to I love it. Yes, yes, I'm test. It polycentric any like the most fun it's

you can learn about how to deal with high school by watching game a throw guy. If I could Is that why you don't use it gives a one year later. We all want to take big swings outward I needed it so bad and instead it's like have some dim college leg like self respect and then like turn the power and don't give em Selma. However, I wonder if it was his creative input that the first within the first EU law ends of him in that show. We acknowledge that he's got a big neck. Put that he was like a direct and writers commit. Can I get it? I couldn't get your ear. Well, I mean what sort of our power comes from? What anyways I wanna keep watching a level of eleven. I'm so glad now did any those charts hell the visual charts. Actually I did it look towards likeable area, but thank you

I don t I gonna need them all now like so I'm following everyone would like. I think I get this person and I personally, like I think I get it. They start like with the three the basic houses began when they start adding. When I started getting panicky and I swear to God every time they fuckin talk about status, bureaucracy and I'm like I don't know who that we don't know anyone's name which ones that person he's the guy- that it and he I don't know if you ve gotten to him any episodes with him yet cause. He comes in a tiny bit later. He's that he's the Head of the House of European, that is, with the red which that woman with the really cool hair who's the night is dark and full of tears. She keeps saying that I don't know what you're talking about our footwear I'm, but I'm only a couple

like you, so you're the beginning, a season one. I just started season three. I can catch up with slow it down for your hair and we would like you to start podcasting lie watcher. You know what I used to steal from I survived will now will just do with gave up ok, so this this week the story is about a horse warrior dragons lair, oh yeah, really it's all one of the most embarrassing conversation that ever had was when I tried to ask us smart friend of mine in private was gave instruments based on historical, whereas, like his any of this, de I should have known from like this. Story of Great Britain or something, and they are just like that- far the Knights and fuckin resolves and how and how stark that keeping the that far from lake It is it's totally based on what the human reference point is, so that you were not just like

weirdly in some and what we are second dragons didn't exist. They came from the moon according to the police, just new dinosaurs got than they were in a deep cube. It's like a car and they existed. We just haven't found prove yet I'm so happy that you like, I am too, and I appreciate you helping me like brought in my horizons- might get out and buy, like my prejudices, sure you know well because at this point in quarantine, let's just admit, were kind of still in it. In many ways we can't we have to break down? Are biases about the entertainment we want to see because then we'll Surprise, like that's the only way, because I really am at the end of Netflix. At this point like I am watching shit where I'm like fine, fine, I'll watch it right. If it's the first thing on, I click on it, so we can do deepening things that we know are good. They just take me

belonging to hook into. I just realized that when I said that about prejudices, I realise that I probably have always figured game of thrones was anti semitic and that maybe we some one of the reasons I ve never watched it goddamn drew Amerika there, either and yet a many Jews or in the middle ages alive. But it's not. Middle ages. It's totally free that will see the problem. I had missed its it's only you see this chain mail and then you're like so was there are big wall like northern scholar, guys it's a single person. Not why like? Can we get some diversity? You will have you well but there's not there's not a tunnel. Also have you have you got far enough in that you met the hound, the really talk. No, I have met the hound and I I know I know from in o ads or whatever that than that a fuckin dragon is coming for. Colleagues you, so I like writing Oh yeah, I heard a spread her wings

oh, my g is about ten. I know I'm a real away. I want just gonna ruin her brother, which is exciting. You want breaking news outlets, so well so we're coming, but we will revisit great game of towns later. I love that we actually did this, we didn't but further, and we talked about half an hour about level. What more does why not? Everyone is never seen it never well just stepped forward. I back this is here we are skipper: a g, o t skipper fair enough. This was it, we came in today. And this is from lords of our us on Twitter, who, let me know the candy corn, is Turkey dinner flavoured and eyes vile. Did you get these messages? I did. Each piece is a different flavour. The coffee in pie. Ones are pretty good, were ok. Last week, when I told you about right, chess rocks rocks fuckin disgusting, candy, aren't Thanksgiving dinner. We write that Campi Thanksgiving dinner. Everyone told us is actually

he's giving them are so I corrected you, I'd, never even had it that I was like there's no way than candy Coralie Irae, there's no way. No way entirely wrong, three brilliant market, on their pyrite, because I ordered us some so in the next two to three weeks to when it arrives moving on even podcasting. It's just that you are not allowed to, but I think that this special occasion, maybe we'll safer for Thanksgiving yeah, that's a good idea. The special occasion you're gonna Harris chew, maybe Stephen commuted a little, but whatever you we want we'll try to chew away from might, but then give our reactions into my I am my mind is bull alone, Laura thank you and whoever else messages on any river. The our people. The now I'm excited that I was wrong. I realized you that there is a lot of those kinds of things where I just

what I am hearing and then I just go, that's not possible filter of. Can you imagine that there's no way what candy company would do themselves the disservice, but then thinking we're like brilliant and also how many flavors as Oreo have now, and they clearly don't care about now? Well, it tastes anymore, because many people who buy it down either also fuck Nabiscos activists girl and has gotta how fuckin unit is everyone. Workers, rights, FUCK Isaac, evaluing work, not fuck workers. Rights! Luck: corporations, Well, you can't if your company succeeded in quarantine, because your workers busted as and worked over time and then afterwards, you said were not paying you work in it. Take all that aware, you gonna give you a second living wage to begin where right like and if you unionized your fire, that Shit's bullshit lake, let let's take a real look at that and not support businesses who work that way. That's kind of the beauty to me

the beauty of these news stories that we keep saying where people are like guess what everybody at this drive your acquit yeah, I get your hamburger somewhere else, the power has always been with the workers in re, always that I have a news: article four YO, oh yeah, that I just that was really interesting- that I found on the UN's Andrews of mysteries, read it I don't know, just reaches the quick part of it, and here here's assaulted is old man. This is says in ninety ninety one, and vanishes after telling his family he's going on a business trip vanishes of address, twenty twenty one from just now. Car stops in front of this man's house and dropped him off like he's wearing the same clothes he disappear them and ninety ninety one. No you can't member, where he's been all these years, envying

yeah, I know, and it looks like he was well taken care of, and so it's the case of, Mr Georges GEO are GEO S so new family right hand, dementia that's an hour once the rising on rent. Someone shook him in case he was just lost and needed hell. No, that ain't, a secret fuckin family, losing his memory and dementia, probably an airline. Let's get rid of grandpa they know where to bring a or maybe he had dimension got in the coroner's like. Oh here's, my home, address things back to his old home address. They drive some other wise awareness enclose I only and wiser, keeping a piece of paper with his home address? Who has his train ticket from ninety ninety one when he was supposed to leave in his pocket? So he really was, must go on a business trip me. I think so, but like nobody can figure out what he ceiling and where he was yet. If we had a track this story here, that's it that's fascinate. I am mysterious right,

sign results. Yesterday. Does he currently have Alzheimer's, or I don't want it all it does. Is it can't remember where he's bed so My only Asia could be dementia, it could be lying. I mean that's one What's the Hoff challengers TAT, no one on tat, one victim captain the bar. No rather one word, what's the most obvious answer in Austria? Oh that's the that's the it's like that. Nice, though the sullen so's size. What a razor razor and knife razor hydrogen. Only I struck there's a little closer urinary. Drag drop me offer my old house please, citing lying is the economy. What I mean? also same clothes, same clothes. That's where that's it, we're in z, Twit sick it in his pocket lake. It makes it seem like he went hit his head. Was

possible for twenty years. I ought up and came home rate and the staff we lost another patient? That's a grating jump when I just it is a great example of outcomes, razor of that's the simplest explanation that admits notes and us and who would pay that fill the now they're, not in America there in a different country, so that research lies medicine, Romania, so it's like well we're not going to bankrupt you because you had to go to the hospital, da. We are getting political, then little Gina. We now care. I have an apology to make to my dog frank, I post, a without lacking on his eyes are doing any kind of privacy built ramble certificates, which He was very upset about her, but we got so excited supposed up sure I know you're right. We should I have in mind The amounts are less opportunity. Oh also in rural areas, many men,

people, male carriers- have to drive their own car. People, instead of being in an actual. U S, postal service, trucker! That's customer! so you are sending online sucked others Lahti. We talked about this and I crack did you guys. I was like that. The puzzle trucks you drive you're sitting on the right you can deliver Niagara. That's not true is true. Oh it's true and city areas in rural areas, whose main some postmen have to use or puzzle in EL carriers have to you. Their own cars, so they literally sit in the passenger seat with their foot. Now, yes, Dr from the past your seats, so they can do that. I know you make a joke about that. That's not safe people, Its, were also bears its leg way. The easier than doing an android. Ngos are used, as I do that with my sister to Iceland shift by sitting in the passenger shoot seed and she be like chief now should now. Yet

Well, I learned by my cousin Stevie yelling dead body and then slumping filed away over the snow but I had you jump over silk gown could actually gas it faster online. There I jump over his body and start steering it was and he would always go. I'm training you in case something that, oh, my god, I told you about how my brother was in a car with his best friend on the freeway and traffic. His friend, the fuckin seizure. He has my brother jumps over and fucking safely and like Russia not rush hour, but like fast rather pulls the fuckin car off the freeway fling saved their lives while Asher Asher kept, but I shall also, as the person being brother fuck him ask, we'll just turn on my Winchell wipers pull my second rate again with micro, termites, outdo thy keel, just fuck with evil Indus crack ethical tat like an asshole, EMU is so thank you

while the people who were representing rural merit, male carriers and. Now I guess I do know two books, Superfund ass. We go! No you up in a vast this book, ok by Caroline Johnstone, so J O H, I messed Yoni spoken. I just finished- Spooky twists and turns the like, when you shouted when you're listening, knew about no fuckin way. That's are the twins, one is missing, or is she isn't murder who murdered or new done it, but also in a bucket spooky house, in the middle of Scotland? Yes, so she's dislikes, scottish offer she's like I were I listen to it is of course have been listened to a scottish accent for a week which is ass. So fine, just saying- and this is her first and declares that her date you novel and it's like one of the best fucking books at listen into a nurse read some really excited and how, before her congratulations. Carol Johnstone is utter named Kara, Harold with any of the Euro, Eu Johnstone e yeah

It's a mirror: land mirror, Mirror land, moorland, narrower land and then the other one, and I can't not, I know everything about this case. So I think- and I can't not listen to a fucking book about the open county child- oh you, you ve covered. Yes very well. I listen like for books or, like you know, stories about it and this one. Called the snow killings by Marmee, Rich Keenan, and it's just as all yandah things The fucking caisson, while obsessed with that, I think is just How many fucking pedophiles we're going crazy? Z in the seventies everywhere, yet there so many suspects, because there are so many fucking bad if isles that are never locked up or if they are its like eight minds are stature to limitations, there's so many pedophile rings working and all sorts of fuckin different. Like levels of that fact. The industry? I don't want to. I think what

fascinating about true, crime as a trend is, I think it reflects the the continued steer and concern that Everyone has words like when they these things first started getting discovered. It was like John, gosh there's no They he disappeared and was taken by a pedophile rice, crazy quota. That's crazy, As time has passed, we ve learned over and over Nano Is it not crazy? The people are around and they probably know was it's. Maybe someone you know, maybe someone you trust, may be there in a position of trust. So they can access rides like it's all that the horror like awake, in discovering of like the eighties? Ninety two thousand is why, in my opinion, we have the true crime, the trend that we have now, because that's people who grew up in it and are like wake up, reboot, no stranger danger, it's fuckin.

Jerry Sandusky, danger in Jimmy Seville, danger, yeah. Alright, we resolved that that's a good one. Oh I'll, say a tv show. I surely stumbled on- and this is my this- what I live for in terms of finding a tv show. No recommended me, I didn't hear any carbon out, for I didn't nothing. Suddenly, there is a picture of a tv, Joe called Chapel wait stirring either. M Brodie? everyone's friend, Emily Hampshire, from shits Creek Stevie from ships Cree, oh yeah. It takes place in the early eighties hundred there are hauntings. There are people with typhoid there. Its loading weird thing of this small town and I believe I think it was mean they're kind of

and their inherent a mansion, but it will be and what a call it's called chap away. You know they do like chat. The bookshop await by whoever this fund should be called chopper wait for caring caldera, literally you could Do you have it Like someone went into my brain there like what we, discovered about use. You love a period piece. You love people in a house away from everybody. I am a hiding town being against the family raise issues because its bang, you know everything. There is a secret in the town that they don't want, no sighters to find out about its such it's. A really good show right now, there's only for episodes, but I think more coming and it's really good episodes are coming like winter is coming. In fact it looks so confused them just like the fucker. It I'm sorry what's this now that I wonder what I'm actually definitely go not actually definitely then watch that, should we Oh, should we ask everybody? We know you're gonna get mad.

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rose people as like? I send it in three times that I never get red. That's a different character as a different girl is a different character. We bear You too tried again and then just look back on what you sent in where there are no paragraph breaks. What Let it go on and on or was it like, succinct and like cause you're, so the Thank you. People start writing like they enjoy. Writing. Yeah adds some. At shirked her? No nothing! don't do it adds to the to the bulk. Aha. Though, make sure you're not from the fat. Do your own great editor be a great hometown writer design, her son. You know I've always loved hometown, writing design, and you know that about me just that would listen to a couple episodes before you start writing your own and then, when we go like the yield see that there is like a pattern of people who are like clever, but now The oak super, like you, know, cocky about our cleverness and know how

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aid from the bottom now here s forehead. So you do that for us, if you would don't be mad, we love you thanks so much. Ok, everybody is it time to tell some stories to each. I think so in your first right, where you hold on before we start, can you poked the dog, a key up, as you were just doing for and look at how offended he is he's. Like Frank is sleep is splatter asleep. In the middle of the day, I just poked him, They looked around like sorry. What he's like me when winces like yeah use, nor I'm horribly and that means he's lying. How dare you say such a thing? Francs, like I don't fuckin snore, actually rang sake. It is my right to eat and sleep and not to have a job. So you knowing your first dating someone and they tell you that you either use nor are far you're sleeping dislike this really jobs over, but I can never they see again when the one I always get is talking in my sleep. Currently I talk in my sleep tat. What do you say? Not sure? I think it's not true.

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yes and a journalist named Jasmine Kanak. Pertinacity, her hard work and her, like you know her, big hard and her care about this injustice. This brought this story to the public knows her website is called. I am Jasmine J S em why an e dot com and her social media accounts, like those too there were the reason this story got coverage and got the attention. It deserves amazing other sort just for the story include LOS Angeles as ABC seven NEWS, the Ella Times we hope Ville dot com which the website for West Hollywood, the guardian, the New York Times Wikipedia and PR and justice stock of all the good ones. All a great ok since the spring of twenty seventeen and Jamila more moves from LOS Angeles to Texas to live with his mom Latisha, Nixon Social,

Gmail had been living a very rough life and allay he was struggling with addiction and homelessness and he was trying to make money working as as an escort, but at all had done to be too much for him and luckily He gets long great with his mom Latisha, and he knows that moving back him with her would give him the new start that he so desperately needed. So she leaves LOS Angeles and most back home, couple months later, on July, twenty seventh, an old acquaintance, reaches out through text and mixture melon offer that can't resist here is going to pay for Jamal to fly back to LOS Angeles. Basically, at a party and later the same day is a genetic sum up on that offer. It made me think, and my heart broke Thinking about when I was relatively the same age, a little bit younger, moving back home to my hometown, yeah after flunking

out of college and there's no one. Like my age, there are literally hanging out with my parents going to. Therefore, and parties like it was Any time I had the chance to go back to Sacramento to visit my friend here to serve just go. I would take it because like you, just social wasteland at your back home, because you flunked out, like rate, you feel terrible You feel terrible and if she was trying to say get sober dynamic for months in were right when it's like the hard work of Uganda and someone's like he come back to allay. First like a glamorous sexy weekend, urban, accordingly. Okay, so that same day by day that he flies back to allay Jamal Morris found dead in a man named Ed Bucks, West Hollywood apartment. When the court arrives. Smells death is immediately ruled an accidental, crystal meth overdose. When

the males families, given the news, they immediately expressed their concern that there could possibly be foul play, but the surest apart, and makes a decision to not investigate Jamal's death. So there General overdose conclusion stands petition. Nixon, isn't ready to give up the fight, so she reaches out to local la sandals reporters hoping to get her son story out to the public she reaches. Border Dennis Romero, who then puts her in touch with a journalist, political strategist named Jasmine Kanak. He feels husband would be a great journalistic fit and he's right as jasmine starts, investigating she uncovers and truly disturbing information about Ed Buck and soon more young black gay men come forward with harrowing stories about being victimized by have so first will talk about who advocates because of course, no one had heard him before I heard of him before, but

this. Basically one this came to a head. It was near the end of twenty nineteen, and I think one of the main reasons this got. A ton of press was because at book was, he was a build. Basically are she capping mentioned as a democratic donor? kept being called. That enrich was, of course like in the height of the reelection re process, and it's all the news, so I think alike places ran with that, and it's the only way they described as yeah he's like fuel for democratic donor. Yeah right, you know, that's how it out there and whatever, whatever a check right so urgent. Edward Peter Buck. Melter was born on August, twenty fourth, nineteen, fifty foreign Ohio, mostly Robin Phoenix at age staying comes out, his gay and Africa Oh, she moves to Europe. He spent five years acting and modelling, and

nineteen eighty he was back to Arizona, gets a job working for US friends, company called rapid Inch information services. So, this business provides driver's license in photo insurance companies and its doing well, it's basically knocking on the door of bankruptcy, but Ed despite his lack of businesses, experience sees potential in it. So after a year and a half, he buys this business for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and rename it gopher courier and just five years later he sells the compass for more than a million dollars process at so he basically he's kind of made himself a bit, so he now tries other business ventures. He opens a restaurant. He dips into pave the pay, phone business goodness is. He loses money on both and the next year in nineteen? Eighty seven he now finds us footing in politics so The time there was a republican name, Evan Mitchum, who

whereas on his seventeenth governor- and he is a racist, he publicly calls black children. Pickaninny is, ah, he revokes m o K day as a paid holiday for state employees He blames the higher divorce rate of recent years on women, wanting jobs and he's allegedly misusing funds, including three hundred fifty thousand dollars in a campaign learned that he didn't disclose as legally recur. I heard so ed. Work is registered as a republic cannot this time, but he's very must much against Mitchum. He launches a campaign to impeach Mitchum the governor defenders try to tear down its efforts. Simply by saying he's gay, but in the end the The peach campaign is successful and this earns add some political so she wines of switching to the Democratic Party in nineteen. Eighty eight and then

the course of the next few years. He holds a couple of political fun, razors for gay and lesbian political campaign, funds and HIV. An aid services and then Ninety ninety one at the age of thirty seven, he most West Hollywood, where he continues participating in local politics, even right as for less Hollywood City Council in two thousand seven, but he doesn't when he still shows up to public council, when Chamber of commerce meetings to push back on the core quote establishment and refer foreign policy is that he feel strongly about he's. Also a big political donor, which is where this came in. So his donation records are long totalling more than half a million dollars to mostly democratic affiliated politicians and organizations, but bidding for gay rights, doesn't automatically make you a good person and add books political resume is not convincing Latisha, Nixon or Jasmine Kanak. That he's in anyway, innocence and the Ella shares Department, refuses to investigate Latisha calls up of.

And of Jamal's to dig deeper for herself. When she asks this friend, if he knows at book, he reacts with horror liked him all. This friend works as an escort, Annette had been one of his clients to, according to the friend, Edward, have Gmail com Go out to Santa Monica Boulevard, looking for young gay black eyes, so he could inject them with drugs, see their reaction and take pictures of the God, so the police hand over Jamal's recovered belongings, Latisha finds Jamal's journal in the stack an entries seem to confirm the bleak picture Jamal's friend had painted, in the countries which are dated back to the end of twenty sixteen and the beginning of twenty seventeen Jamal explicitly writes about his addiction issue, and about Ed backing the entries Reed But I honestly don't know what to do. I become addicted drugs and the worst wanted that Ed Buck is the one thank he gave me

my first injection of crystal meth. It was very painful, but after all the troubles I became addicted to the pain and the fetish. Slash fantasy my life, is at an all time high right now, and I mean that in all ways I ended up back at butts house again. And got manipulated into slamming, which means injecting drugs. Again, I even went to the where I was forced to doing to doing it for times with India to day period this man it's crazy and it's sad will. I ever get help my car, the Enquirer breaking yeah so with no other tools. Besides the power of public opinion available to her the tissue Nixon Posts, a video on social media on August, and twenty seventeen demands. Let the Ella Sheriffs Department look into her sons, death and investigate it as a murder to boost support. Jasmine publishes, Jamal's journal entries for days later on August Fourteenth twenty seventeen,

and as the new starts to spread more young black men start to come forward with similar stories, one of those men. Twenty eight year old Demur love, sits down Jasmine the allay times and ABC seven to tell his story, essentially at all Furthermore, a large sum of money to come to his West Hollywood apartment and quota quote hang out. On the evening of July. Third, twenty seventeen, because Denmark had been there before. He knew the drill. He expects Wanna take photos of him. He shows jasmine, some of the photos and videos of Ed Bucks apartment that he so had that further crop where it his story and Jamal's journal entries once to Mars there at the apartment had guessed. A glass of water and a more demur, almost immediately blacks out when he I'm too he realizes that his hands are tied. My God advocates standing over him holding a taser that has a flashlight on it

democracies, another taser near by and grabs to defend himself after a stand of democracy scapes the apartment he traced, to get help from local police, but they don't believe his story and they. Just assume he's a drug addict whose just really high, because he's been shot up withdrawal out other Demosthenes. We find some m tease who believe his story and he's taken to the hospital justice. You weeks later, on July, twenty seventh Jimmy Oh dies in at bucks apartment tomorrow, love thankful to be alive, assures jasmine. That Ed Buck is nothing short of a monster. Demarche where is published and that along the entries from Gmail Moors Journal make an impact Well, for the l, a county shares department to hide from the demand to take a serious look at Jamal's case and on August fifteenth twenty seventeen they finally launched a homicide investigation Eighteen days after Jamal's death, I mean that's quick fuckin work shit like that.

When the family and journalists have to get involved, can take years have already incredible like that. Their derive got out at that quick. In that way well yeah the action and what they were, what they were posting. They were like putting on social media and basically saying, Gmail was not the first victim, they dont have proof of anything else, except for This man victimized the perfect The voiceless contingent of people young lad, gay men who were either are potentially already did to drugs or that key was addicted to Crystal map out. I, which, as we know and we ve talked about on the spot cast, is the worst fucking drug immediately addicted to it like it's so fucked up so she yeah it's it's horrible, so as the police, begin, their investigation, relying almost solely on information witnesses, the Jasmine Kanak and Gmail Morse Families attorney nano jumpy

have found themselves, they stop reaching out to these surviving victims for official interviews but wisely. The survivors all refused to speak to the police without immunity. Many of them have use drugs and or engaged in sex work, both of which are technically illegal. So They want to make sure that their covered. The investigators claim that they don't have the authority to give them. Immunity which immediately makes me think of how the circular, family was just given immunity for bed sickly, being responsible for pushing oxy cotton on the nation ray. I am, though, the fuckin opium, the addiction issue that we have in this country, So if you're rich and your way and you made the drugs, you can have an you know, it's insane a vigil four Jamal more is held in Must Hollywood. On August eighteenth, that's aim day representative. Aaron Bass, who once received a donation from Ed Book issues. Estate

meant denouncing him and then tons, two hundred and fifty dollar donation and her statement reads. I am stunned by the news of Jamal's death and the tragic sad circumstances surrounding at nine years ago, I received a two hundred and fifty dollar contribution from Edward Book. I do not know him, but what hearing in reading about this conduct with Gmail is, deeply disturbing if there are other view terms they should come forward immediately. It is my hope that law enforcement is prepared to investigate and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. My thoughts are with the friends and family of Jamal this evening, what was her name? That's represent Karen Bass. You do it later after searching and publicly naming all political figures who have taken donations from Ed Buck. Jasmine cannot calls on all of them to return any money. They receive. Aid received only a and some of them do, of course, We call rationalize everything on August twenty

First, twenty seventeen Latisha asked the West Hollywood City Council to grant witnesses who come forward against at buck blanket immune some council members, like Lindsey Horror, bath, Agree the West Hollywood mare proton. John Doran disagrees. He says no investigators nor city officials can grant immunity stating quote transparent She doesn't always work with the criminal justice system, transport, and she can subject you to criminal arrest and prosecution. So before you do anything, you should seek legal counsel to advise you on how to proceed forward before, You speak to law enforcement. Now, interestingly, Doran received thousands of dollars and donations from Ed Buck over the years, I'll shoot and even represented at book as his lawyer. What a company and so on thirty, first, twenty seventeen, despite Durant's efforts and thanks your attorney nano Jonesy immunity.

It is finally granted to witnesses and victims who speak with the police. Out there encounters with Ed Buck. That's right, so it works Now more stories, role about young gay, black man, a mature we have them unhoused, who advocate tactic via dating absent websites offering to pay them to come to his. Hartman undue met with him while watching porn, one young man who publicly goes by Blake describes how Ed offered him money for quote Party, in play, unquote, which means doing math and having sex ed injects Blake. With far more method he can handle and forces them to model white underwear in his apartment, while Ed takes pictures many men recount Ed calling them. The end word Henry acting violently if they tried to leave the apartment before Ed, wanted them to, and they all describe the same Red Tool Box where Ed kept all of his drugs Coke

math heroin pipes, needles, you name it it's in the toolbox ie. So then September eighteen. Twenty seventeen had, books, lawyer, Seymour, AMP, stir who is actually the same attorney, who defended Lonnie Franklin, the grim sleeper wall, criminal, fancy attorney. He turns a West Hollywood City Council meeting to try and clear at bucks, nay. Aha, he claims that council member Lindsey Horror Bath is targeting at buck for character assassination, and that is good. Getting over the loss of his friend meaning Jima yeah, he announces his request for an ethics investigation on Lindsey Horrida wolfish. So he went all I mean he had two right, that's what they they do. The crazier shit when it's like it's the the evidences, piling up against their clients, and then there like none, let's, let's Oh look over here join me over here S guy, but two days later, on September twentieth, twenty seventeen away

he's going by the name of Brian comes for to say that on September, eleven twenty seventeen Edward shouted with him on the gay dating site Adam for Adam and sent an over to pick him up and bring him to adds apartment Ex messages show Ed, telling Brian that he's quote into watching porn kicking back blowing clouds showing often underwear and Jim clothes Lots of mirrors cop rings, pomps shit like that end quote all of which whore leads to previous witness statements, so Brian shows up. It adds apartment around twelve thirty at night, while he brings as on drugs and insist that they take his while. Brian refuses, Ed becomes angry and pushy red fuckin fly here, brains. I feel uncomfortable. The final straw comes when Ed asked spraying. If he can call him the inward

Ryan Muster up an excuse to leave and manages to make it out safely. But the whole scenario shows that not only is Ed but not greatly in glory for the law. Of his friend? He still do exactly what she did. The night Jamal more was murdered my eyes, So on July, twenty six, twenty eighteen despite incriminating text, conversations, photos, videos and more district attorney, Jackie Lacy declines to bring criminal charges against Edna, saying that there is insufficient evidence so of course. Jasmine panic is outraged by this announcement, so she takes to twitter and issue. A warning another young black, gay man, overdoses or worse, dies at democratic donor, Ed Bucks apartment, it's going to be the fault of the sheriffs Department and L, a district attorney for knots. Opting him when they had the opportunity to suggest. What happens now- journey six months later on,

January, seventh, twenty nineteen another black man, Timothy, my we'll age, fifty five is dead in a box apartment I Timothy had died from a math over all my God, but this time, because of of good trouble that Latisha Nixon started on behalf of her own son, a car, The jazz mechanic then took up ass her own this time the l, a county shares department, are investigating Timothy's death as Homicide and bucks, a toy and he makes a statement to the media that at this point and has not been charged with any crimes and claims that Timothy was just a friend of Ed's who had asked to come over that Ed had not invited him. Stories that he was reluctant to let Timothy come over, but when he did and he saw that Timothy was acting strangely, so he can all nine one one. But when the coroner report on Timothy Dean's death comes out on March, twenty fifth, it reveals the Timothy

died of a combination of alcohol and injected math and the at but waited at least fifty in minutes after the drug was administered to call nine one. Why? Oh shit science right? So it's true that Timothy dean and at buck were friendly over the years there, played in the same gay basketball, leagued together, but a friend and were made of Timothy's named a Tomyo Taddie told them there are times that cheese quote personally never seen Timothy using drugs and ever seen him in the apparent state of alteration caused by a form of drug back here, I want to say a quote: I consider this whole tragedy extremely controversial, and I do hope the police Department will dig into it This is timid. These roommate, going excuse me, I I I'm telling you this guide didn't do draw arise. If anyone knows like you coming home or whatever you're fucked up, it's your fuckin room. It's your roommate oak

so this time the police do dig into it Thanks to the hard work of jazz mechanic, Nano Jumpy and the team behind justice for Gmail, which advocated for the victims of at since twenty seventeen, so four days after timid, he deems death. Is becomes known its. On January, eleventh about a hundred. People gathered to protest outside of edible West Hollywood apart men and this time it gets covered by the news is so this is where I first heard about this whole thing going down, and I will never forget it because it was a big crowd. Outside of his apartment, building and but they were saying it was like

two men have died in this man's apartment and this second, I heard that in the new programmes like oh, this is so bad. It's going to be so many more like something super suspicious of fucked up and not being fucking address yes, not being addressed, and this is the first time we are hearing about it. Yet there is already a hundred people who have already been hearing a barrier have to protest because no one's doing the only way to get the attention ok, so Jamal's, mother, Latisha next and is in the crowd that night, she tells ABC seven news its like my son, has been killed all over again. How longer. Are you guys going to turn your head and act like you? Don't see anything until another dead black man is in here the crab, ants arrest at back their fear. Yes, the white man could have two black men dying, his some possibly more, but the authorities refuse to investigate stories and he's never fear. Is any charges and has been left free to do it again.

Scott, a member of L, a black pride who was also in the crowd that night tells the press. If it was one of us and a white person was found dead in our home, the common sense would be first that we would, go to jail, this guy has yet to feel the steel of handcuffs it is painful to us. So the media attention breaks the story internationally and eight months. Later on September, seventeen twenty Nineteen at book is fine. Only arrested and charged with three counts of battery causing serious injury. Administering math and maintaining a drug house and today, After that, the charge of distribution of methamphetamine resulting in death, is added for the day of Jamal more which was originally world. Accident, but is now world a homicide, hey awesome in an interview. Jasmine Kanak tells british Newspaper the guardian that authorities finally arrested at book because quote they report

by a community of people who are tired of seeing their people dying. This two years of the black algae Bt Q Community, in LOS Angeles, beyond not letting go. It was about damn time, yes, Sir appears before a federal grand jury on October. Second, twenty nineteen, where he's indicted on several narcotics distribution offences, including injecting Jamal more aunt em. They deal with math he's arraigned on October tents. Twenty nineteen and pleads not guilty His trial set for November twenty six same year, but due to covet nineteen, its two January twenty twenty one. So these charges carry a minimum of twenty years in prison, but an the opinion of the justice for Jamal legal team. They fail to illustrate at bucks intent to do harm. Like gmail more family one year after year, but the Danes death his family for else a civil suit for wrongful death? on January, seventh, twenty twenty a turn,

same Turk, a member of the justice for Jamal Team puts out this statement, quote the wrongful death lost its fill in the substantial gaps cream, did by the inadequate federal and state criminal complaints, neither of which directly addresses Ed bucks, racism or his alleged intentional killings of Jamal more and Timothy Dean. The civil law suits are important because they seek to hold at bucks specifically accountable, for engaging in racially and sexually motivated hate violence against Black amen. These cases are not just about furnishing drugs that resulted in deaths and grievous bodily injuries. These cases are color by the racial identities and social positions of the victims and the perpetrator. But didn't just hand out drugs that resulted in the death of MR more and Mr Dean at, but deliberately an exclusively use drugs to commit disgusting acts of race based

sexual violence against a specific demographic He was a predator and he had an m, oh yeah, and he's not being held accountable, further off yeah. So when RO court files are accessed. The testimony of ed bucks victims, give light too a picture that is truly horrifying. So this is partial quote from an article by journalists, SAM Levin, writing for the guardian, and at least some of the victims accounts. Victim said he learned about. But when she was homeless and living in a park and said you are that book was nickname, Doktor Kevorkian roof a rough. To the pathologist known for helping turmoil. Patients die this victim said it was part of bucks, quote role, playing and fantasy to inject people with me. They in fact quote and that all though the victim had never injected met before assured him that it would be fine, oh shit. He had now fuck and I'm of war or now this guy convinces him inject.

In drugs, it's like birds, zone, largely ignored this victims agreement to only do a small dose and he quote empty He then entire syringe into him. End quote the time buck injected this person any immediately lost consciousness and an awoke to discover his anus bleeding ethics, man, filming him. The complaint said another victim said, but one a conjecture him with a tranquilizer it made him quote naval to move, adding that one buck later, wanted the victim to leave his home, but they and frustrated and obtained a power saw from a closet, turned it on and approached the victim with it that victim eventually escaped the apartment in another case, but gave the victim with the victim thought was vodka, but he fell asleep or blacked out. After consuming at the complaint said this victim said he woke up to buck, injecting him with a syringe and panic, because he

did not use mass, but he couldn't move when, tried to get up now. Also felt quote is excuse. Proceeding pain and when you I'd to remove the metal clips fastened to his nipples buck. Just laughed the mushroom victim who overdoes but survives pulled authorities the buck solicited him for sex and distributed met, him quote near every day during approximately a one month period holy shit, keeping him prisoner yes, and also it's like you he's now hook right these men on these drugs, and now they have to come back to him for that. Ok. So in August, for Twenty twenty at buck is brought before a federal grand jury again and they add another for charges to his list, including the enticed victims to travel across straight state lions to engage in a situation, slash sex work, and this brings his total count to nine federal charges. Meanwhile,

idea Jackie Lazy or tries to rid herself of the blame by pointing thing, There is an l, a county shares department. She claims that they searched s books, infamous red toolbox illegally, thus making that evidence inadmissible. The social justice groups on the ground aren't buying it, though, and because of their organizing an informational efforts. Jackie Lazy is voted out of office on November twenty twenty West Hollywood mare protests. John Doran is also voted out of office after defending his long time, french head buck public. Yet it. How do you do looking happens. You noticed thinking to about evidence. Is that since in very beginning? They didn't get a search warrant because they thought it was just an accidental death and light just clearly ignored it than he had time to get rid of all this fucking that the evidence, the videos and photographs- oh yeah, that would have proven, but he was dead. Yeah, it's just yet perfect warning. Framer predator, like thy words like. Oh you, better, clean it up

for a little while and touch charges are filed. If ever with ongoing issues of a four around covered. Nineteen ebooks trial is once again pushed to April twentieth of this year. Several survivors of head: that's cruelty, testify against him in court, sharing their harrowing stories of being solicited for sexual gratification and having drugs forced upon them, sometimes even while unconscious, and when the tree EL ends on July, twenty, seventh, twenty twenty one had book is convict. It is all nine charges against him. His ended. Cindy hasn't been set yet, but the sixty seven year old faces anywhere from twenty years to life behind bars in it. I'm to delay at makes a motion for judgment of acquittal. The judge addresses on August thirtieth, twenty twenty one as just then Kanak reports, the twitter quote, bucks attorney constitutes the jury's verdict on the claim that the effort the trial was insufficient for conviction and quote at all

so complains that he hasn't had contact with his lawyers for a month which the lawyers come back and say that simply not true. The judge tentatively denies this motion, but grants add more time to confer with his legal team. Is legal team claims they are be briefed, add on everything he needed to know, but even still the hearing to make a final call on this motion is pushed to October. Eighteen, this year always shut it soon. But looking good for ever, but sentencing won't happen until this motion for judgment acquittal is dealt with as long as those guilty verdict stand which is likely had buckles and the rest of his life in prison. And while the harm he cause can never be undone, case serves as a reminder of why the work of journalists like Jasmine Kanak, need to be championed and protected without her compassion and dedication. It's likely that Gmail, more and Timothy Dean's deaths would have gone an unnoticed or would it then blamed on and explained away by people who want to point towards their

put on port lifestyles and away from cold hard facts, and it's likely that there would have been many many more victims as Jasmine Kara told NBC News quote, our stories aren't told and our lives are seen as expendable. It's very easy to write off someone who dies of drug overdose whose working as a sex worker, Benjamin it was as much a part of our community as the many other young men like him. It may not be pretty. White gay men, taking advantage of young black men in our community is not unusual. It's just not talked about mainstream America end quote, and is the disturbing story of Ed Buck and the murders of gmo more intimidating Wow harem rates are lacking bananas story. Yeah horrifying. I'm so glad you told that I mean that idea, like the people, the that that's

but he is such a predator find people who will not be listened to. They know for a fact yeah, it's just like a it's just like, pedophile targeting a kid that, with like divorce Parents are something where it's like: it's them strategizing and how they can do it. And they can get away with it. They do get away with it. I mean yeah, that's incredible, but it's also me using the people who rallied around two fucking take this predator down. Well, Anna. What I think is beautiful, too, is that West Hollywood, which is in a lot of people now, is the is the gay part of LOS Angeles, but is also a very fancy part of LOS Angeles. It's a very fun popular here, like a lot of people. Go there just at night. There is great bars, there's it's it's a wholesome It's like a hawk me, but it truly as a community, and I think one once there was like a protest words like sorry. What's going on, people knew they couldn't turn away any more and that you know

I think West Hollywood, as a community started to rally wasn't just about a different groups. It wasn't just about. You know somebody else. It's like it's happening here. Everyone we need to start paying attention, yeah yeah, what great job! Thank you. I bet there's so much everyone out there, MRS about dating in the before nines, but it isn't even just the normal dates themselves at them. Ass right, I m guessing that what they misses. The unexpected thrill of meeting someone new when they weren't even looking in the first place, the awkwardness of a blind date, picking up the check when they forget their wallets code on quotas and that first kiss when they don't. You know the little things. Vaccination is the most effective way to help prevent covet nineteen and get back in the dating game. Find your covered nineteen vaccine location near you, add vaccines, DOT, Gov, goodbye.

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who find drowning victims? Oh so it's a couple. Cod gene and sandy aroused him. Ok aroused and some and tell you all about them. Ok, am I also got some info from the Ralph stands website. Sonar reflections, dot com and an organ live article by Samantha Swindler and then a little bit a little bit off of Montana right now, dotcom. So with start here Aaron when a body needs to be found in a body of water. There are many different ways to try to locate them, and this is a quote: they'll be quoting Doug Homer article in the guardian a little bit. I'm quote theirs, Ruby divers, an underwater cameras dogs train to detect the gases released by a body underwater button These are good at searching large areas or probing deep water, so divers who to do it for body.

Often face dangerous conditions and most police departments don't have a ton of technology or the equipment. To search large areas or deep water and those areas are often obstructed. By said, a man there's like trees. Underwater all these crazy things It makes me think of some unknown something that's right. The first season, a seminar, something excellent podcast ever unchecked about yes, and so it just theirs. In times when divers just have to feel around in the darkness so or sometimes divers just have to feel around in the darkness, sounds terrify orphan, so somebody's will surface on their own depends on the water if it's called. If it's all it's cold water, whatever I'm in in warm shallow water. A body can surface within two to three days, because the gases, of course, played the body will rise to the top, but in cold utter a deep water body, sometimes never surface, because the weight of the water holds the body down like fuckin nightmare stuff.

If the body never surfaces and there isn't any suspicion of foul play, most authorities will only spend about a week or two searching for the by I do not have the resources, and then, after that is up to the victim's family, to try to find the body themselves. Some are forced thousands of dollars a day for commercial, diving services and others try to fight the bodies themselves and most often they are forced to give up due to lack of resources. Horrifying ya, think you would be forced to go, look for yourself, heartily hats off and then to give up, and you can just look at this lake or whatever, and no your loved ones in there and there's nothing you can do about it. It's heartbreaking an all hope of finding a missing body is lost this, is worse sandy and Jean aroused in step in their considered summit. Best underwater searching recovery specialists in North America. So now I'm up tell you about them. Look a great.

They just they were budget was TAT all my god and it's gonna end to quickly appeal. Georgia does use George, my dog as a desk. She didn't react, she doesn't care she's down sleeping on me as long as you. Let me stay in here. I laid my paper done. Hearn wrote some late, I laid my paper downturn wrote something, and then I did. The whole like but sitting when you take a paper and you tap tap tap to eat then up all the way up the deeper. Oh, I'm, your daughter is that of animals not at all. In that your phone, I will use I just telling them they mean that John who the hell were you I will vote tomorrow about cassettes, just ridiculous around nineteen, seventy gene and Sandy Ralston, and though they of course now this adorable wait a couple that are so cute together. You love them, so they meet

on a two month- trip to Mexico that had been organised by the College of Idaho's biology programme which they're both part of and they start data, on the trip and Mary, two years later, on top of a mountain in Idaho, which happens to be called Heavens gate. Oh by nineteen. Seventy nine Jean has a masters of science in biology and zoology genes, the man by the way- ok, not sometimes now, let's go and sandy has a master of science in Biochemistry so fuckin smartest people smarties, Smarty smarts, the couples, Start, their own environmental, consulting firm, which turns They survey, waterways for fish and evaluate the environmental impacts of proposed dam projects, so smart science yeah nineteen. Eighty three gene is asked by the Boise Sheriff too. Help find a woman who jumped off a bridge into the Boise River there They are successful in finding the woman's body and gmo.

Air tells organ live close. The thank you. We got from the family really brought home to us what it means to how someone missing and not be able to find them from the four sixteen years, the couple volunteers for Idaho's search and rescue operation wow, in the spring of nineteen Amy Iron Jean hears about the search for a man who drowned after his rowboat capsized on the Wolf Creek Reservoir in Oregon. Hence family had hired a search team who borrowed military equipment. That was well a hundred percent effective finding drowning victims. Jean one to see the equipment, so he asks if he can tag along the. A hundred percent effective equipment is a side scan sonar which has been around since the early nineteenth sixties and according to the guardian, the sonar equipment is code behind the boat close to the bottom. By the water and the sooner and that's pulses of sound which try

More easily through the water, reflecting back off solid objects, science, so wrong. Human bodies sunken treasures. Software error, then translates those reflections into images displayed on a computer aboard the boat, so it's basically like medical sonar. Since then, simply like getting an altar. Sound like me, baby or whatever so about this piece of equipment, in the seventies, Jack bestow leaves the technology to find shipwrecks and I'm trying to capture an image of the Loch Ness monster. He did tripe Jacques Cousteau yeah what separate this separate about how delighted I am that we had some one, so legitimacy of parliament on the Nessie team. Look that's why I concluded unless clearly it, but as a luxury for me, thank you I am also a nineteen. Eighty. Five. The side scan sonar, helped to locate the tape.

Annex on, but we are in the second eightys it was located. People know like no that's crazy right. I thought it was located right after the movie Titanic came out and it was all kind of, but bundled together as a promotional to all I shouldn't. They use some kind of technology to actually go Emma, unlike see it better. Yes, there is a whole movie that goddamn enery James Cameron made hopefully or the same director yeah give no yeah yeah. I know it's really good, I'm so the tight hammock is about three hundred and seventy miles. South EAST Newfoundland, Canada, more then two miles below the surface on the Atlantic. By the way I haven't do a lot of research, because in the guardian article he uses like meters and shit, and I had to be like. Well, we don't know how many fuckin feet, We're translates younger light. All we need the translation for America, the only country in the world that will not do the metrics assent uses the antiquated as fuck

no wonder where, where we are today truly deeply can't change. Jus genus super impressed with this side scan sonar equipment that he is an impressed with the people operating at noon. The team. He went with to see how it works. He says that the first day he was able to see an image of the missing man on the a floor of the lake, but the tea, members he was with your operating at didn't fuckin spot it, even though he did on their fourth day. The team finds the body and it's the one he saw the one he saw and they charge the family. Thirty three and I'll arousing. They purposely not find the bodies of the five because they have more money. I don't know that is that's a jury I mean like how do you silly yeah? I'm you look but my costs a lot of money- it's really expensive and ran. Also you I'm getting out right, that's true! That's not true

fortunately in the restaurants, They already know that the Russians are too really aware that people who are desperate to find the body of a love- one, that's drown, will fuckin pay anything the deuce worse, and so they are charged that that's why? When the couple buys a hundred thousand dollars worth of their own side scans sonar equipment- and this is in this way, two thousand. They decide to work for free, charge anything. Oh man, victims families who are desperate a finer fuck, his largest fully discussed, deadlock. We have to make a different yeah, it's our did like they feel called to it like it's their duty. They do charge trap expenses, but they travel by Motor Home what a lovely is mostly dead under Earl, modest bucking people is the eat their absolute

should be a biotech about this guardian. Article is Greg's, I'm so glad and introduce me to them the couples. First, search with their new equipment, takes place in the of two thousand there searching for twenty four. For Europe Brandon Larsson, whose six weeks earlier had brown last swimming off his friends boat in bed. Like you, tar and from the article, its basic glee, the sky, who is this prank stern, joke stories with Alice friends? So in that he signals that he's drowning. They think he's Joe I now it's my job. Within a few hours of searching for a brand its body, the rostovs Fang him about a hundred and forty five feet below the surface so like immediately. I am within two weeks of finding branded the couple stretch receiving calls from families who heard about them on the radio. You didn't radio interview the first one from a mother of an eighteen year old girl whose body had been found

and already after she'd been abducted and murdered about a dozen years earlier, but law enforcement was still trying to bring like the known killer to just s, but they didn't have enough evidence said the mother asks the ralstons to help by finding the girls car which they believe to be in a lake and Wyoming. Oh well, yeah, I'm hoping that would provide enough evidence, so oh Jean, says quote. I could hear a lot of pain and her voice. It affected. That's a lie. I couldn't wait ticket out there in the end Fortunately, there are unable to find the car, but it only. Strengthen their belief that would they were needed and doing the right thing. They didn't even understand that detail with which they could be need. Yeah yeah, like us, not just body, is its important things like evidence aroused insert taking on his many cases they can lost operating their environmental, consulting firm Melick. I used only to make money, yet

during their first year. The Redskins participate in sixteen searches spanning from California to Maryland. How about you and for the couples receiving so many causes they have to stop promoting their business because quoted interferes with how quickly they can respond to search requests. Yeah, Jean later tells the guardian quote, I would have. I would have to tell a family that we couldn't I'm for two or three weeks, and that bothered me so pure of our will, because every person calling them is in crisis and in an emergency dire need that have yeah in two thousand Five, the Russians shut down the consulting business and conduct searches full time, the cat. We'll spends the majority of their time travelling around in a motor home which toes their boat when they are on the road there living outside of Boise, Idaho, because they work for try. My expenses, only the couple doesn't have a lot of money, but their frugal with what they do have Jean tells the guardian cos,

What better use for what money you have than to have somebody else out when everybody else has given up on helping them their modest boat is named Cathy G, which they named after a young woman whose body the rostovs found in a lake in Alaska and you as an eight and then the family of Cathy, I don't money that the used to buy a much needed new motor. So according to the guardian, aroused since our quote, modest, unassuming people, but they bring a relentlessness to their often monotonous work. So they're looking for a body. They do what they call mowing the lawn. They told their sonar equipment back and forth through the water sandy pilots, the boat and slow overlapping strips it takes a long fucking time. It is likes very slow, monotonous work. They had both doesn't go faster than you

the point five miles per hour, which is slower than walking home. So they're, just like for weeks on the fucking water going back and forth. Looking for this little but think about like yeah, there retired couple whose essentially driving around like they're kind of quoting corn on vacation yeah and that's what is that? he was a fisherman right. They would be doing the exact same thing orderly, so they're, like these people are unbelievable. I now I can't it's so amazing. They search rob to ten hours a day and some searches. Last four weeks Jean tells the guardian quote after the fifth or sixth day of searching you get almost zombie, like and then he also says: quote: searches consist of long periods of boredom interrupted by brief moments of terror. I too suddenly fucking come upon what you're looking for you're looking for it. But you actually want to find out exactly so once they find them.

Are you, then a local dive, Jean comes in and recovers the body and other time the ralstons help assist, died, teemed with their remote operated vehicle. So that said that that its there not just good at what they do, because it here It meant they also interview witnesses in order to try to pinpoint search areas. So it's not just this back slake there looking. They have an idea of where to look like They were the only people who thought to look at the GPS data of the House boat and a man named Michael Mc Cutchen jumped off before he disappeared in June. Twenty nineteen move because they checked the gps, the roused and were able to find his body over three hundred feet down in Utah Lake Power. I now so like some like that teaching themselves how to get good, what their due heartily or they're. Just like. I guess it's me because professionals, are able to think outside the box and just have some more basic idea of how to find

body and maybe because they're, not professionals, it does its now the thing they have to deal with gay and now they're, not he said, the ties each case be comes there like there personal them. He adds really personal, and so there like. How are we gonna? How do we solve this lack and they're not hurry to so their able to kind of like slow down and guess? What are these thing? Yeah. According to Jean, the quote point of last seen is Chris told you a search because a person will sink to the bottom of a lake within a radius equal to the depth of the water. Oh there's there's an actual formulas: lower wages and yet lamb, sometimes gene and Sandy are able to pinpoint a search area so accurately that they lower their sonar equipment almost directly on top of the body. Well, I know Wendy two thousand and one in Idaho is hidden lake. A couple. Over there sonar equipment down on the bodies of two men one drowned nineteen months earlier, the other drowned the previous week.

There are actually only looking for one of them and they found can't you well. So let me tell you a couple: am I can obviously cover all of it. This is so. Let me tell you a couple of note that I found interesting in Our two thousand and two, the ralstons are tasked with finding their first homicide. Victims are recruited by the FBI I mean to find for people who had been kidnapped for ransom by a group sought to be connected to the russian Mafia, who the families of the victims, I'm paid, the ransom one point, two million, but the victims were still held. The victims are thought, to be at the bottom of the new lowness reservoir. Witches east of Yosemite National Park. There are systems, are a bit apprehensive. They wonder if they're gonna be targeted by the russian mafia if they try to help out on this day, yeah. So Jean reaches out to his cousin, whose a recently retired FBI agent and his

as in tells him that the Russians quote aren't really in the murdering people, so you don't really have to worry about them doing anything in retaliation. If you go ahead with this search you aren't into murdering people, I M Althea, it's not their style and keep them alive and do other stuff. I gather they send them to jail. That's the russian mafia has very Xray their basically like bounty hunters, the russian MA got you got to him so that take the case, knowing the or murder victims will look different on sonar than a drowning victim, maybe because there weighted down or like rolled in the fuckin rogerson, like that, you know totally different. There's somebody just naturally drowns you him. It still takes two weeks define offer victims and as suspected there at the bottom of the reservoir, but because the reservoir is close to three hundred feet deep in some areas. It's not safe for divers to reach the bottom, the FBI has to fly. Ok, so you know when you see on a tv show or like a crime

the drama like the diver, goes down. He picked. He finds it comes up in it like, founded or whatever, that that doesn't actually happened, because divers can't go down that it ok What really happens is something like As for the F, the FBI has to fly. I am a small unmanned submarine from their dive team headquarters and the submarine has a mechanical arm that hook the bodies and bring them up to within thirty feet of the surface. Then divers. Go down and recover the bodies and they had been weighed down with Jim weights. And are able to use the evidence that is found to tie up the bodies to find the kidnappers and actually there's another murder and the same, but by the same people with kidnapping and murder by the same group, then they find that are not fuckin russian mafia at all, and the group had kidnap a total of five people held them hostage and then killed them, regardless of the ransom was paid in. Cities are bad

yeah and they dump their body and the new Maloney S. Reservoir, Indians, Six people are sentence for their roles to them, receiving the death penalty in January has been three Jean helps: police search for Lacy Petersen, oh wow, yeah in San Francisco, and on the eighteenth he finds what he thinks is a large plastic bag, but he hears its anchored to them bottom of the bay, so he's not sure and he's the recover the bag any dismisses. It is not being her body based on some other evidence, so it then in March he goes back to help the search again and on the thirteenth. He finds an object. That look like a body, but unfortunately, The winds are super strong that AIDS or divers can't go into recover the object, when he returns and next day he can't find that objects and Base on wireless. His body is found in May. He believes that this object was lazy body, second one that he found yeah incur. So he,

simply to a help: try to locate Natalie Holloway, oh hi, now into for the rest, in search priest lake in Idaho, for the body of fifty three old fire fire David Louis, its believed she thought of his and drowned in the lake and because no one saw him drown. They have to search the a large area of the lake while searching they do find a body, but it's not David's The body has been in the lake for as long as a hundred years. Why? Oh yeah creepy you haven't like DR by bodies of water and lakes, and can go further, Are you the man well The current I've never thought about the fact that Obviously pure love drowned throughout history and obviously they would just, he's sitting young there, especially hundred years ago, a hundred years ago, and if its super cold, there might be hers. I didn't know that yeah, that's it. I think chew as they don't. Fuck indicators have right well, g of effect, an echo

lake had bodies and at one time when it was when it was emptied I bet how about the. If he be judge, this is criminal episode where they put a diver into the l, a laborious, her parents rye nets. You haven't heard the episode of criminal. Were they to about they talk to the the LAPD dived. Aim, which is like one guy who had to go down and search in the tar. It's on. It's unbelievable look it up. When I was a kid, my grandmother was my grandma neighbourhood and socialist. She should take me that liberated targets all the time which I wouldn't go. Fucking mere, even as a little KEDO like this. Is it's bizarre? Maybe this Will it also has a little kid you're. Looking at that woolly Mammy S summer s day, the bay, the woolly mammoth is drowning in the tar and the baby is upset. Why are they all children like? We went there for fuckin field trips, yeah yeah. I bet you. I bet you that's all things built in nineteen, seventy seven, it was like the peak of

we do not care about. Kids thinking we from the sixties, the EU is still one was alive Brad Harp had created, will illustrate the executives alien eighty billion busy in the medieval times Stevens Rang waste even Ivan nineteen sixty four. Ah, I should have made a friendly way german, but could I would want by now I just love losing in winning money. I have very little figure thing: we're gonna do more from you. Later on the spot. Yes, we do. Venetian are always both wrong piano for for real. We should also get an envelope with EC with some places college kitty ahead in it. It's like we have a hundred, our friendly wager money and then we build up from their the eye and then at the end of the year somebody ones that's a great idea.

And left whoever rights, the best hometown of the air dollars or more are haven't. Monsieur ran up to two hundred dollar three spill in they call it? Yes, that's your, maybe but aren't you know that? Come ok back to this horrible story so a hundred year old body to this day the oldest body. The Austrians have recovered, but sadly they did not find David's body engine, she has to be so disappointing, and when do you say like when do you stop saying one more day, one more day you now right, I mean like What can you I won't? I wonder if that something base preset with the reality of like we will look for days and I have like they're, probably totally backed up on their schedule, so they have to export the other thing that's really sad about all these stories is the family. There are always waiting at the shore? Klingon whose families come every day they horse down by the shore hopeful, but also in our dreading. What's if it's going to be

it's just so sad in June, two thousand and three it or else genes are asked to search. I'm gonna call it Francois Lake in British Columbia for the body of this, said never said, is peace, Jim dead after a storm struck. While he was fishing on June seventh and as the couple is searching, they they find a body again, someone else this body, it's the body of thirty three year old, John Mower and he'd, been missing since July of nineteen. Eighty four well and has abandoned boat was found in the water. His but he's found at almost six hundred feet deep well, so deep yeah, their deepest fine and they go back to the France. While aching continue looking for said never and they find the original body, they were looking for all two hundred and six hundred feet, the oh, so in August twenty sixth arouses- are asked to search for this, a ninety, your old man named Blake's Backer Blake, an amateur stunt, motorcycle writer, oh and on July, twenty third, he planned to perform a stunt were here,

it's a motorcycle which he had designed and modified himself. He's gonna write it Montana Canyon Fairy Reservoir? So this fuckin jump across the lake yeah classic motorcycles that yeah he done it before its remind job only this time, he's gonna, do it at night. I now so unfortunately have we across the lake the motor on his back, seizes up and here would have survived this, but there's some complication where his when he hit the water. He doesn't realised that a call he had like snapped accord that was on his bike in his life preserver like clasps, so he couldn't get out of his life get off the motorcycle he will icicles attached to it and in his panic, he's not able to realise that in the weight of sinks and the way the motorcycle forearm sinks into the bottom of the lake he's the only victim the rostovs ever recovered. That was wearing a life jacket,

I don't just search for people in two thousand and three. They help NASA fine remnants of the Columbia Space Shuttle after a broke up upon its return to earth and in two thousand and four, they helped the. U S military find the wreckage of two S. Eighteen fighters that collide over organs: Columbia, River. They also ones help for a person, look for their prosthetic legs in Idaho, Wake, Lowell that they were unable to find a ah. Those things are expensive. Have a guy was like a Hagen. You please help me I'm. Today there all are in their seventies and they continue to dedicate their time and resources the helping find victims in the. U S and Canada. I won name may see. Lapis say who's aunt and uncle the Russians help find after they had drowned on the in the Sacramento Reverend twenty thirteen said about them quote

don't save lives, but they save us from wondering and from the hurt from the pain like families, all these people and, of course, all the families of the people they found keep in touch but then they talk to them regularly. They spend Christmas cards. I bet they're, like indebted them yeah Jean said quote But I really don't like the word closure, it's terribly over used because things are never closed. The pain goes on forever, the trying to come up with a better word resolution Perhaps the people seem to think that there's closure we can move on with their lives and forget about all this stuff that happened in the past, there's, no forgetting its always. There entwined two thousand and twenty Jean told Ory alive quote, my body is telling me: yes, we need a slow down in other in their seventy year. We need to think about not ourselves through all of this, the mental stress and physical stress, but my and mine, says you can't say now and that is the story of gene and Sandy Ralston retired couple who find drowning

amazing, wow. I love that, amidst via its it's fun! It's like there's, it's so nice to tell stories about the good people world. You know ass. These there's these people that are out there with it with, you know very little credit and very little attention. Just getting this work done and quietly and also there's, you know, cause a lot of people have re issues around death and loss, like that, where they just won't go near people who go through it and that's you know, that's another aspect of it. It's really brave yeah. Is there going into those Situations of you know last and tat, a Judea and just trying to make a different bodily the other seeing trauma all the time and they talk about it in the guardian article about like how do you compartmentalize, unlike Sandy's, better rather than gene,

to see so much grief all the time. Yet, how do you? How do you make it? Ok, but it's like well you're doing something to help your not now hidden away, still there the crystal there, the Greece there, but what you are doing is cause it. Isn't your grief right? It's you we're not so delicate that we can't handle other pupils greet rights. It doesn't actually taken not much, but you have to do it because the store you and I am, of course right now the thinking of my experiences where, when something in horrible happens like in your family or with relatives or whatever their our debt. The there are real actions to go like leave them alone, which is very self serving reaction. Is you just don't want to be in a difficult scenario with someone else. If it makes you uncomfortable and say you don't do it and of course it does because it makes everyone uncomfortable, but that idea

But there are those people who know and have learned or maybe because of their own losses or whatever they know that going in and sitting next to the person is not hard on it, certainly not his heart is what that person's going Tralee and see even do anything to lift that burden uniform, beautiful work especially for some retirees in a motor alone. There is an acute and white haired, unlike adorable, and there is packing getting it dad. He had laughed at them, a bio pit, let's see who play them. Well, of course, Dame Judy Dan and then who broken beyond camera with her, not mine's yeah, I, like you, didn't I'm thinking like what's what's Indiana Jones is an all that's her.

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That's not only Nick an abortion illegal, but actually making allowing people citizens to report. Other citizens for any kind of bullshit and services. It is there's a lousy on women's head. There was founded on women's heads and there's a bounty on any kind of abortion service worker said the doctors, the people that work get clinics, the janitor area they can, it is it Truly insane and lots of things have to happen and change and were all very upset about it. We didn't wanna start the show off this worry because enough of us live in this stress. We all, heard this story, we all free doubt as as a woman who prey

fertilizers choice. You would, of course, naturally just be like. Oh it's end times. This is absolutely in saying this barbaric, it's fucking unconscionable and it's a war on women and we will not fucking stand by ITALY and and let this happen no and here's what's interesting- is over a majority of Americans believe in choice for when a woman's right to choose this idea that this is somehow in any way a majority is absolutely incorrect. Over the it's like eighty percent, of Americans believe that it is a woman's right to choose what happens to her body right and nobody intends to go backwards or not going to do that. So because of that George and I are going to donate ten thousand dollars to the Fun Texas Choice Organization, which is very hands on active organization in taxes that in name

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