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just randomly on tv and uneven, even have PBS Act This would be a BBC. But, however, arrest me, but I'll tell you right now: I've the why don't? I always watch this antiques road shown by no longer in the UK where things are older than they are here much older and people act almost offended when their thing is worth a lot of money, they're kind of like put out by whereas, like You can tell the in the Americans are like yeah: go I didn't tell me, this is the only reason I'm here. I don't care about this. The history of this jar tags could but the British have. We talked about this already- probably been five million episodes yet trained ass, a teacher. I just love that that the British are very demure when they're like this Vox is worth three hundred them thousand pounds. Oh, there was a gross doubt by air

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about the repair shop, because when my dad came to visit me last year when he and I like binge them pair up in its the british show how ya I hear they take these treasured antiques. Oliver the great Britain and bring the men because it was like this. Was my father's try sick all- or this was my my mothers, precious China bowl that somebody drop. I smashed in a rage and now could you please? I do not believe ugly yeah. If I love when on eleven on antics roadshow, you could be like, and here you can tell it- someone tried to repair at, unlike that's totally be with my vented, shed just like a fuckin hammer and some guerrilla glue, and it's not like it's lab bags, oh man, don't just thinking about the myriad of beautiful vintage pieces,

that I so lovingly picks wherever I want that. One of my many cats have broken. Yeah just shattered yet, but I'm gonna let go and let God it's a tough one, ago, though I told you about that dream I had once when I was in a weird restore, didn't know where I was and suddenly I looked in the glass case you know are normally their watches through Historiae and it was all my old stuff childhood like high school, and I was like, doesn't that's mine and actually shit? You recognize! Oh, yes, in a dream. I recognized it, but then, when I woke up, I was sitting there trying to remember and Yazzi wisest Symbolism basically horse, but all of it such a freak out now, just like that, so Obviously what it is there at the bar. Above all that of that drift kind of treasure, hunting, letting things girl FARC in wanting waiting. I anticipate angry to justify my lad. I love

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because of the way it works you ingested anyway. I already know like who the killer or whatever completely have you got into the part where nets sharks wave. I can remember her first name, MRS Start, a home to visit her sister now ok, but I do love Nelson, MRS Stark alive especially ass, a strike that a mistake and that one of the key He is volcano areas, oh yeah, Maybe you're gonna Rewire dancing. Everyone gets my head over to everyone. Yes, and everyone gets that over in that show and in life also, so don't get too catch to anyone Yan, both ok, I made it. So I think it the second round com or everyone like end up together. I know it's like air, one turns on its like stuck in medieval times. Oh, my native people told us that its base on the actual,

story. War of the rose is from way way back when so you weren't wrong, and thinking like you know this is based. On an actual. It is Fourthly, the stairs so yeah it is real they did It's real royal staff ray and real wars are high, but to see I say this in the next ten sprinkled upon it with Gregg Sprinkles Array, do you have a surprise? as I told you last, as I told you before, right, here's how the epic tail starts. Ok, I told you about how I was really into a gross food. Read TAT. I showed you a thing for rocks. Thanks giving candy that was Thanksgiving flavoured. You said it there's no way it must be like the cornucopia of lakes, such sherry's, but not flavors. I was like here that makes way more sense than area

and told us that such words actually the flavors. then I go online and I can find member properly expired cause. I bet there from last year. Yes, no there's no way. Brock's doesn't role like that. They don't expire, they would never lie, didn't buy it from them about it like a suspicious third party, oh yeah, so they arrived last week spelled beer. CS. I ve learned slim now, where first of all like there's a giant turkey on the front. Yet there does. You know the. Let me say the flavors we're gonna have to post a photo, that's online, so the players are Turkey, dinner, apple pie, coffee, green beans cranberry sauce and stuffing. Ok. Can we do a thing?

like where we lay out lay, I am only amount. So we can each taste a thing. I've ever pick each fictitious, terrific, different lines or ship it the same low figure. Ok, here's what I think. I think Green beans is the Green one, cranberry sauce when a guess, thousands, coffee, nano balance, coffee, I think that's Turkey I bet that once the thing I touched yours, multiple, times than us, yet knowledge desolate, that's loose candy for you. I think we are with green, been ok, first of all, let so the listeners before the visual. This is

I assumed these candies would be shaped like the things they were flavoured as Iberia, just candy, corn, indifferent, color combination are triangle: Candy Corinth, indifferent color, so I think the Green one has to be or indian though we just start hard and they are art and heavy for thus disgusting, oh, no, no, no, no spit it out. one way. What a waste of time, why is there poor Brock's? I have to salute them. This is fucking Larry. I feel there dear doing like oh Mr Botz B, it's kind of oh yeah disgusting favours this is like the british If you can't stand your family and none of us can talk about their get along, yellow can get these Rollo in fry for Thanksgiving That's what I man, let's do cranberry negative, because I need something better than that yeah for real

anger among them. Cranberry. Ask, though, covering up that that peat words it granted Green being now, we get into some mysterious territory because I don't know which is which here again so there's really know visual thing on the back the bad. Now Maybe he's gonna find now, because I guess what what what what what no you're right, I'm just trying to cleanse my ballot that I like the cranberry. Ok, I'm guessing this one's coffee, so what's in it for a last, because little taste good the dark sooner pan yeah one is apple. Okay, so here we have left is apple pie, roasted Turkey method one of the ones we can eat, renounce it are apple pie stuffing or or turkey? which when you want like, should we just do that because this, other to actually look there's some ways out of the moment: the Yellow Bartleby. I carry.

oh, my god. It's nothing! Stuffing! Ok, whom I reject it. Oh, my God, bath, weird, it's the consistency of candy corn, but that the days of snow oh, my god, I think this round, one is gonna, be turkey lighter darker darker, whom figure that will buy Ah, it's gonna go, I kind of look of it, oh, It just feels insane to be doing this words like now that either stuffing our coffee, this is definitely stuff. don't you think he just for sure I mean we have to eat it, though, but Apple I just saved us from stuffing allow for turkey or coffee I am like I can. I can get through

this next one which I think is Turkey, because I know have coffee waiting for us at the end of that right. So here we go rendered forty bucks in Turkey, Candy Gorky, candy, corn,. Oh no. I can't We made the role which gets no half the Eba. That's not pardon you notice days like lifting chicken asylum. I got my raw many a packet of the flavor from IRAN, and that is oh, my god, that is, oh look at a girl has its turkey. I tried inside there it's right inside our brain through the coffee and going somewhere surges the poor down. It's like! who eats Turkey dinner, I mean Thanksgiving dinner. Those were is like eight six rights in Turkey and then can someone help when you have things even you can only eat the entirety of one side.

I read the minutes. Are you can't mix them together? That would actually like, because mixing them together is the job. Oh, my god, I'm on a young all about a perfect by like that's. My thing is like the perfect piled by an honor fork yet in Mumbai. I was disgusting hearing, our coffee. Hardly anyone measure the whole bag of this. On my gun right it was all coffee novel by the hope I make this shit. Do you remember which will now? But I was gonna one another on laugh, but I love that got them. No, I'm so so thrilling to get immediate gratification. I'll find that when I thought of that I have, I did like an evil. Laugh like a more ha ha ha you and then I found it. May Twont may twenty twenty two so that your lover in the clear for a while I mean I truly like I'm going to vomit. I mean I don't know why we had to use my now, I'm a little hungry and say that I have made an oil. So I'm also like you know that disgusting sugar, you just say something you ate pie

I need a protein, but instead I can tell you that Turkey, at dinner the nice, but then yeah that big cup of coffee or not gonna go to sleep tonight, sleeping for gas not even slavery. Broadcasts can save me from rocks copy that this made me think because getting into holiday s things here, LOS Angeles. We don't have any type of whether it's always ninety degrees, apparently lately so it doesn't. This is the first holiday ish feeling thing but hollowing right around the corner, as we all know that twelve skeletons or back at home deep, our young people are dead, them their posting them their own. It made me think so. Friend of the podcast, our friend Jason Lopez. Ain't told me that he was he and on a chip and that his friendship. Talking about going to I can't remember, was not very farm or universal studios, but they had

like the Halloween horror name is not very far. step airy farm Stephen. What well universal, those horrid knights and not very firm, does not scary farm, even which one do you know this year, there's one day of eight haunted: corn maize is a hot and hunted maize, is I believe whore nights will have their like a hollowing. She for seemed amaze. I think there's a house on haunted hill maize as well to so they had a bunch yeah. They have a button so I wonder why one is great why one is plenty and they have difficulty of different themes and he was leg. You know one One was the saw movie now, I'm like sorry, so what you walk in you don't know how to get out and the guy from saw there are absolutely no. I don't want to watch that movie you know a man just a night were like a, but this is the way it's like. This is how we mark time now. This is an area that were eating we're.

candy flavoured like stuffing will even torture ourselves for us, because we live in L a so there's no other way than no time period. This is how you other people are like of the leaves are turning and people are using. Their wood burning stoves cause it's starting to get coal ray and were like. I as the saw haunted corn maize's garner over another so go out there in your ninety degree, whether clothes and celebrate. Oh, I just wanna tell you last night, I did my classic move of falling asleep kind of earlier, watching something foreign that course immediately, because I had read now my god and so I woke up like a three in the morning, but myself, bad, could not go to sleep and then I decided I was gonna start the new than theirs show that I then it has been

advertise. So much, and I thought it was the newest season of the last man on earth the will. Forty and christian shelter, but it's nice. It's called why the last man- and it's actually be its demographic novel, and it starring, Diane Lane a bunch of other people and it so that I ended up binging like four episode, so I watched it from four in the morning until leg it got. it outside my maid coffee, but are ok from, I mean probably not have been in this house too much. I mean, I wonder what the sounds amazing, but like the thought of, like the light coming, about sigh, I know, but I have to say it's just just nerve racking enough because of what this subject manner is kept me alert and awake, and then I saw

to this day, when I stay up late and quote, unquote, do what I wanna get such an believable huge charge out of it when I just The dogs and, unlike I'm in go, make coffee, I'm as well just get up, and it's so early that it's weird I get, I think, that's great legacy like grownups, can't tell you what to do. No one can tell me what to deal you never get over that feeling, like when you go in the candy, islets, add or ice I'll at the grass reassuring, like I can buy. Would ever I fucking why I might This will be yelling. Yes, I can't mom out loud as I do that started that, yes, I can just Novi inflection where they second grade and I'm, but I guess I can now do it has drunk Karen yeah man. I can't you. I watch beetle. It was great a class classic such a ghost.

king of meeting a home costume. That is like do something there. That's a great one. I think that might be one: Alec Baldwin's most charming roles. How Curacy incredibly good looking man almost like yacht club, good looking where it gets a little bit like an eye, but he plays a nerd and at which is so charming and q? Yes, at such a great movie. Its Lydia's dad with his tail. Now, where is he now there are no now Lydia time? I just kept going to hurt you May I also like how do they? Let us watch this timber. You scared the shit out of us as children, but he did it in that way like when they go to the waiting Room Area Hersant the tiny smoking ed I laughed so hard. I felt like a and there is so funny to me tat. I love it's so much. It was just the best visual isn't

Should you network you hadn, it's like nightmare foot like nightmare MIRA, but so called fodder. Thank you yeah, except for that, it's almost like saying. We all have nightmares, and this is what nightmares look like it. It's fine like em times things aren't scary. What you like ghosts are not scary, and sometimes scary. Stuff is scary up. first and then you get used to it yeah. You know. If we're gonna talk That's him Burton, and I m wrong in saying he he directed at would yeah Amre now or am I think, you're right I do he directed at when he addressed, that were sucking, that's another one to revisit leg. I feel a bit. they'll juices on me like if you're feeling like you, need an upswing yeah but Edward is it. I love that movie. I love how it's based on a true story. It's this. liberation of this Hollywood, when it takes life here and it's real and it's hilarious yeah. So it's all

TIM things, but it really happened totally totally love. I love it It's like a biotech is FUCK Edward says our hands. We could go on. I just think of like their ina. We have eighteen year old, young women who listen to this part Caston unlike, but can't you should we go along with them like their dad would like. Have you watch beetle juice and wanted an unreliable? You should work? Aren't you, though, we had such a good idea that such good art. followed, is busy but Heller fresh recipe. Save time you other. I spend meal planning, shopping and chopping sea can get back to what matters and hello freshest family friendly menu is a big when for back to school season, with easy, delicious recipes for a drama, free dinners, hello, fresh offer, sticky menu and market items to choose from every week from vegetarian meals and calorie smart choices to extra special courts. May options, there's something:

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heard of Breckinridge Colorado. No, ok, it's a former mining town dating back to the gold rush. It's the basin, rocky mountains about eighty miles from Denver, so like a cute little quaint ski runs, or tat lots of beautiful old buildings breweries, you know like nice, restaurants, art seen small cool level town, so on the evening of January six, nineteen, eighty two twenty nine year old, barber oh Ober Holt, Sir. His nickname is Bobby over that from now on she it is at a Breckinridge bar with some friends celebrating a promotion at work, a little before eight p m, I'm she decides to leave early and head back to her husband named Jeff. Instead of getting right back with her friends who are leaving a little later. She decides to hitchhike, which of course is totally normal time. Everyone hedgehogs around town and

didn't areas known for being a popular ski resort. So there's a lot a rich tourists by the people who live in town alarm them can't afford their own car, so hitchhiking is the norm. Bobby has a couple role. She followed when she hedge hikes she doesn't go the cars with two men in there and she won't get into Van so hitching a super normal, but everyone still little aware of that. It's dangerous and are still careful about it, but by next morning: she's, not home and so chaff. Her husband tries to file a missing persons report, but you know, as it was in the eighties. You can't file on for an adult. It's too early sprawly, just fuckin spent the night at a friends house sort of thing, however, in so he goes out with his friends trying to find her. They can't tracker down, but the next day, at around three p m, a farmer who lives thirty miles outside of Breckinridge fines bodies, licence gets hold of Jeff and he comes out too, the licence and on his way he spot something.

and a snowy field, and he finds its Bobby's backpack his wife's backpack. So he asked so. Fines of blood, spattered, wool, glove and some tissues are also covered in blood, and also found. There is a woman's orange booty like our orange sock, like snow booty that doesn't belong to Bobby Jeff and his friends start searching for Bobby and two hours later ten miles south of Brecker. They find her body fifteen miles from where her backpack was. recover. It's almost like someone scattered her in our possessions, after leaving the body We must find a pair of eighteen inches if ties tied to one of Bobby's rests, meaning They think someone had tried to find her, but she may be got away before they were able to find both rests in the parking lot out of the bar that body had been in that night police find her curying there's. Also this, like metal hook

on the key ring that her husband and made her as I could defensive tool just in case, you ever gotten any trouble and it looks like maybe she had pulled it out till I try to use it, so they think maybe it gotten in the in the car with you know who ever picked her up realized. Something was mess. He tried to supply her. She took out her tool and ran and was able to escape the car, and then they think that she ran down hill. They get away and there the killer caught up with her, and so she had been shot twice. So they think that that's how she was how she was stopped when she was running away and then she d I had a short distance away of blood loss. Then law enforcement gets word that that very same day, the day before that Bobby had gone. Sing. Another young woman had also disappeared from Breckenridge, and this is a small town about a thousand residents. So this is like to women, and one day that has very odd, and so it are unfair forty five that day

Twenty one year old woman named NASH, Knee was a cocktail waitress had and came home after running some errands, but and that didn't make it home. There's no trace of her and health six months later on July. Third, when her body is found by what is called like a year. boy or a use, always this terrible gets while he fishing is an isolated mountain area where she sat down and was called Sacramento, Creek twenty miles south of record bridge and that's body had been well preserved because of it. Freezing temperatures and the medical amateurs able to determine the end that died from a gunshot same as Bobby she's wearing both shoes and on whenever fee is an orange booty. the same as the one found a Bobby seen so clearly are connected police speculate that be had murdered and at first and then out, whereas later picked up Bobby and murdered her than discarded the belongings between the two scenes,

and so the orange sock must have some have been mixed up by the killer and suddenly discarded us oh internets, possession is one of Bobby S, husband, Jeff's business cards, own right yeah, so Of course, Jeff immediately becomes tops aspect one force, questions, him about a net, so I first he denies knowing her at all, but then he sees it sure, run the news later and goes back to law enforcement is like yeah. I actually do know her. I've met her once he said he had picked up. at once. While she was hitchhiking and given her his and card of his appliance repair shop after she mentioned needing something fixed like fucking coincidence with a capital see right where's. He denies any involvement and her disappearance or in his wife's death, takes a polygraph test. I'm pass is apparent as an alibi for the night, but it sketchy

and, of course, law enforcement. Consider him the tops aspect, but are unable to collect enough evidence to charge him. The case goes: Well then, becomes the areas like big s most and cold case toward about seven years, retired Denver. Homicide. Detective, Charlie, Mccormick he gets burnt out on the Denver rarer homicide I'd seen. Its true stress offer him, so he finally retires and moves to reckon here's about the mysterious double murder. I've been on the same day in his new home town and because he's a homicide detective at heart. His interest is p. over time, you becomes more and more involved in the case, until nineteen, eighty nine family, hires him as a private investigator on the case he chases some leads throughout the years of serial killers in Montana, Idaho, other suspects as well later. Here

on tears for the district attorney's task force. That's opened. He continues to work on the case almost every day for the next three decades and guess how She charges for his detective services, private detective services for an family, nothing, dollar a year, and I know so he's like I want to do in like dealers lets us imbalance. You know what I like about that is is that he could We wanted to be a homicide, does actually out like that. The culture shit you know like was part of that way you can do in re, but he can do by himself tunnel evidently and separately, and he still work. it's to be a person. That's helping. Yeah click like saw those crimes and there are those cases yeah like as soon as you heard about it in his new small hometown, he's not just gonna be like, while, whatever that is by his yeah, They want it sake like

we want us who would hear about that and have the interests would be like. I need to know what happened. Yeah he's somebody who could actually, who has thus the skills in the Availability of the genome means ya to it done so Eric only the blood on the glove and tissue found near Bobby's belongings were thought to be her blood, but in the nineties the blood is tested and results show that that blood actually belongs to a man so that El Dna is tested against Jeff's, the husband of Bobby. It's not his dna, oh well! and so, as a result of this and other evidence, including several alibi, witnesses he's eventually cleared a suspect. So the fact that his wife doc, that's killed on one day and another woman gets killed on the same day and happens to have his fucking business card in her. While it is all that is just the coincidence, literally and truly just going have fucking bananas is that's the horrifying

again you imagine like so many years, every one in town think she fuckin dead willingness what's that thing of that is in those cases the it's one thing like that that it, even if it's not enough evidence threat. Are it just as enough evidence to change everyone's mind about how delay totally, and it would be Could you explain that word yeah, it's not out of this round the possibility that everyone thing he's guilty totally make sense young, so, unfortunately The male dna is not in the criminal database, so the case goes called again in the nineties, police look into several different suspects in the case as a cab driver named Thomas Edward Luther who, in February nineteen eighty two inbred courage had picked up a hitchhiker henriot than assaulted her. and while in jail, he allegedly brag about being responsible for the murders and accordingly girlfriend you didn't come home on the night of the murders. and then another suspect, named Tracy

I trust Sally, murdered his fiance in eighteen, eighty one and went on a multi state crime spree and during this crime spree he stayed at the holiday Inn where a networked, oh well, so another fuckin crazy coincidence. Neither suspects dna matches the evidence from the crime scene All right. So twenty years later and twenty eighteen authorities decide to go the friends of geology Route and hopes DNA Match Summit Company united Data connect fines, twelve thousand people who are possible matched to the dna profile. That's on the glass. then the tissue and private investigator, Charlie Mccormick, whose now eighty years old and still on the case and he's like the photo of him. sex all earth. Grandpa sure am.

So. He and his team start going through the twelve thousand people like you now. Genealogy can only get you so far. You still have to do the groundwork groundwork for work, but work in I met the same. Your feet on the ground that have to be picked one so the chain, reaches out to a ton of people who, like makes sense in those twelve thousand people, and they all agree to give dna, and so finally, after a year, searching, the team finds a direct matched, whoever the killer as though a relative of the killer. Am I right. So I'm in a pivot, real, quick burned. our story that made It is in the area at the same time as the missing women on January Sixth, nineteen. Eighty two they at the women went missing, as before midnight Sheriff Harold E Bray, is on a United Airlines flights to California as the plane

is flying over the Grenelle. Pass in Colorado over these mountain ranges thousands of feet above sheriff sees headlights the king, the Morse code Signal for us so ass. I like her happens to be looking at the window. He happens to be a sheriff, so I was also ass. A fucking c is blinking. Also ass online, you. She going. I gotta lengthened chills like what what did he do. I know the share of tells the flight crew and they radio the affair, the Federal Aviation Administration, the country or for the author A asks, a close by plane to investigate the plane circles that area spots, a car that had blown linking us so ass clashes is lighter. the driver know that he's been located and then the A contacts, clear Creek, County fire Chief David Montoya she's, like can't fucking, believe

What he's hearing a sheriff in an airplane saw a car on the ground using headlights to sing I also ass. His later He says he tells nine is I thought it was the crane this thing I ever heard of so Dave drives at the top of the gun. Ella Pass, which has an elevation over eleven thousand feet. Is widely known to be unpalatable during the winter got its January day finds a truck stuck in a snowdrift and inside as a thirty year old local mechanic name, Alan Lee Phillips, Abe says sure, as Hell very was in his little pick up, and he saw me and said: oh, my god, I'm saved it small town sheriff like this shit like this doesn't happen, main em, so the fire chief Dave asks. Alan. What he's doing in the Gwen Ella pass when its twenty below freezing and has been snowing heavily and he doesn't have chains on his tyres like kind of every one in the area knows not to be. driving there. He said he'd been

drinking at a bar with some friends and had decided to drive home, which you know over the pass an he'd been drinking, so I thought I was a good idea at the time. You know the eighties. When drinking and driving were an excuse, you could tell the sheriff. I'm gonna be ok right. Balance says that, as he travelled over the past, his truck got stuck. He tried to dig the truck out, didn't work. Sorry, you walk into a nearby nearby ski area, but really it was called so he got back in his truck covered with an emergency blanket and then thought about but to do he heard the airplane Flashed ass well, ass, an so that you know you're a fucking save you would have frozen to death and has struck ya like quickly for driving Alan Home Dave, the fire chief noticed is that Alan has a quote sizeable bruise on the side of his face on us, about the various Alan says. While he was waiting for help, he got out of his truck the p Maloney. Try

to get back any. He was blinded by this now endless and slammed had first into the corner of the track the story of this crazy rescue of a man who otherwise would have frozen to death, becomes huge news. Most forty years later, forty there from the day that the two women had been murdered and the sky had been found on the pass. The dna from the I've been tissue belong, turns out none other than that man who had been this closing of an that's body after he had gone over the pass. So these two fuckin separate stories. Just in twenty eighteen turned out to be related, holy shit yeah. So am I a philips as he's man to the dna via discarded, fast food wrapper,

had traces of his saliva on. You note still took a while for them to track him down and to match the dna it is an until his man shot is shown on local television news at the now retired fire Chief day of our friends. my recognise This is him as the guy who, forty almost forty years ago, he had saved from the mountain pass, and so they had not put it together, yet that it was the same. dude and that's exactly. He had been fucking disposing of Annette Spotty J now right Dave says quote: we ended up picking up the dye straight out of hell. as it turns out Alan, haven't been driving home from the bar that night he was heading home after killing, Bobby and Annette. Alan is now seven years old and the father of three and since nineteen eighty two he had been a still living in the Breckinridge area. On February twenty fourth twenty twenty one police, arrest, Alan without incident at a traffic, stop in clear Creek county he's charge a kidney.

Having first degree assault and first to re murder of both and naturally and Bobby Joe overhauled. Sir. Today Monday, the thirteenth was his eliminating hearing oh yeah, and as of this recording, we don't have much info about him. I did the best I could about who he is and what he did. He might like be connected more murderous, so I'll keep everyone posted here. We also on his way to court might be found innocent, oh right, elected, important matter. I follow legit and sell. Alleged bodies has been Jas, who at one time was a suspect released statement, saying that he praise the arrest quote, will finally, after all these decades, bring closure and peace to this hideous nightmare. After her Phillips arrest and that's mother, I lean who is now eighty eight years old, says family has endured thirty nine years of how she said quote: a for years. I thought Maybe-

be gone before, I had closure in this case and she said I am ready to go when it's my time now and then Is the story of and naturally and Bobby Joe overhauled, sir? I mean holy shit, yeah, that's it The craziest most round about a first of all, I can't leave Evan were never heard that, because a chest it just happened. They were just connected as too cold cases you haven't heard about. It was one guy driving over a fuckin mountain pass. You haven't heard about and then it turns out there connected yeah. I mean that Mountain pass story feels like that. and a weird news story that you agreed separately and anyway yeah the idea that there All the same story line in out of chronological order is mine blow, and it's not entirely this guy seize him on the news that he puts it altogether fuckin. Forty years later, I can't recognise someone I met last weekend, but it must

the ban, well, is. It was weird enough, as was, but it must have and very I mean it matter- news yeah, yeah the event itself, but I'm saying I wonder if that fire chief justice, I'm kind of a vibe like hell. This is interesting and weird and off here and what everybody is also not a cop, so he's just like irate. Let's just get you out of here. That's that part isn't really now. a nightingale suspicious, except for the bruise, but that does make sense, have how he would get a rare wall absolutely in that much as the business art in a dead woman's possessions. You know you you and right that off or you would have to anyone can ever Bruce for any reason heartily. However, one you don't even remember like yeah violets, that's a mind, that's blowing. Seventy then comes up all allocate everyone. Oh.

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you. Ah yes, I did, he ask you are, and you did and you well. We took our thanksgiving candy raw tastes. Tester. That's why I was like that. You know you. Could you please remember to bring? It is if you don't own accidents, can you please remember to bring that candy? I'm really excited about it. When I was actually gonna forget it like all she's, a clear and unequivocal I mean I was doubling side of you have rightly stress, but then I just knew that bombshell Boom Mason amazing. So the sources for this story are a website called criminal element. I've never seen it before and theirs Article on their called the unwrapping, the disappearance of Helen Brok by Philip jet on shoe tv dot com. There was an article called Helen Brok down, but not forgotten by mark driven there is tons of great information from ABC Chicago dot com and the agency- seven I witnessed his tons of lake updated articles then, of course

There was Wikipedia case law that fine lot outcome and this story, so this starts on Thursday February seventeen nineteen, seventy seven sixty five year old, widowed heiress to the Brok Candy Company for General Helen Brok, known around the Chicago area, as the candy lady is visiting the male clinic in Rochester Minnesota for routine check up when you Well done. She finds out that she's in good health everything's normal. So after her a point and she walks through one of those tunnels that runs from the clinic over to her her hotel for the Non Snow base. People. These are very common, yet fascinating structures in the mid best and in the EAST eastern Seaboard were basically it helps protect pedestrians from from a harsh winters, especially like the ones in Minnesota. They'd, basically, look like you

hamster tubes for people, so she was Cross that she stopped in the hotel gift shop to buy a few centuries before she leaves to catch her flight from our Chester back home to Chicago and as she's checking out, she tells them Kashmir please hurry and finish wrapping. My housman is waiting how Span Housman Her husband is a man named jack. Matlock here energy hellenes, seven acres state in Glenville, you Ellen. I do you know how big an acre is. Not really I live in L a so when you are like, about in the country and the average fields that you see here. You know I mean like not gigantic. of course there, but it just lake My dear I, a rough before houses would fit in about an acre okay, so

she lives on a seven acre estate and armor sprawling play. I think, as soon as you call it an estate, I have an idea and I'm gonna win. So when Helen, when Hellenes and Glenview this man Jack matters lives and works at the estate. When you not in town. He and his wife live in another one of Hellenes properties property. In Sharm Illinois, so in fact jacket with Helen in Rochester like she's, making the lady at the hotel gift shop, think my housman, is waiting for me, she me he's waiting at o Hare airport to pick her up wench. When her flight were essentially yoga. she's just trying to like she's, is the original care and essentially isolate it yet hurry up with the wrapping Here's the reason I'm rich! Ok, so one hellenes flight does arrive by Jack's account. He picked her up in a jeep which

makes her mad because she wanted to be picked up in her pink Lincoln Continental. I mean she had a pink Can continental and a lavender rolls Royce, Bs Pink, Lavender are the Brock's company colors I'd want to be picked up in that shit to oh yeah, right, yeah, sure at o hare you want the people it! Oh here to see. You have spoken re. So instead Jack, shows up in a jeep she's passed here claims. He was running errands and I didn't have time to swap cars. takes her home to the estate. The two of them stay that way. As for the next four days on and on fourth day, which is Monday. Every twenty first jack, allegedly takes Helen back to o Hare betweens around six and seven in the morning to catch a flight to Fort Lauderdale Florida to visit her frightened Richard Bailey, but for the next two weeks, no one reports, seeing or hearing from Helen Brok, either in Florida where she goes to vacation all the time or back home.

Chicago area. So about two weeks. He drops her off at the airport and then doesn't hear anything around March Second, one thousand seven, that's when Jack Matlock finally goes to the police and reports Helen Brok as being missing, so let me tell you a little bit about Helen. Please she was or in November tents. Nineteen eleven, her the same was Vorhees. Her maiden name was Vorhees just like Jason, Voorhees and it was raised working class family in Union port Ohio when she said, team, she married your high school sweetheart. They got to force just four years later. So and eventually moves away from a family and gets a job as a goat, czech girl at the Palm Beach country club input Each Florida fancy fancy- and I bet she had fun and There's a redhead sociology shit turn of fun, that's trip! So years later, she still there it's nineteen

fifty she's thirty nine years old and she meets a regular patron of the country club. man named Frank Brok, whose fifty nine years old and they just retired air of the box, candy company above so let talk about the Bronx Candy Company, a little back, ok, so Egypt, the brok and sons. Candy company was sounded Nineteen o four by Emil J Brok using his entire life savings of one thousand dollar. While it started out as a small can He stand in Chicago called Brock's palace of Swedes real secret from making better quality karma was that he baked it rather than broiled it. So she changed the recipe and everybody loved it so that the store gets attention because lair candy taste a little bit different on a little bit better. However, then, the meals,

on Frank, takes over the business and really starts expanding, so Frank invests in updated in innovative equipment and that enable the Brok family to get their production costs, under twenty cents per pound and for We very often the candy business. It's fifty cents a pound occur, so they can put our quality candy at a cheap. Price sales, go through the roof and at its peak rock candy. is ran the largest candy manufacturing plant in the world's oil and was responsible for selling two thirds of all bagged candy in the United States Share said they were beasts, and they really corner the market on holiday, and so there one of the first kite candy companies that gets it Ray and does individually pact, candy and that so the selling you saw hollowing better now, and then they were the first with false seemed candy like candy corn, which people

loved when it came out, always happens. Legendary nineteen fifty eight there so hit on another popular innovation, which is with thing called pick and mix. So this is the thing and in some people know about this, I dont know if it was national or not, but at the end of the grocery store. Aisle there there is like floor to top of I'll bins filled with different kinds of candy. So there's like Carmen and there's hard candies and there's this in that rate, and then you go through like the bulk pins and you fill up a plastic as with all the different kinds of candies, and then you pay for it by the patent. Yes- and this was The kind of thing where that was the first time I saw my mom in my eyes sharply: eight. She would always eat a pick and mix, and she we owe stop anything just one. It's a sample then at are the store they put. A little thing like sample could put money

this little thing for a sample. I give you one example put a penny Anderson, my god. Pat it said path. If you are a sample, we know you're, stealing tat. She had always ruler eyes, Rebecca Bonnet City, where you raising me catholic Giver, knock it off by these rule of it. So in nineteen sixty six. When Frank was ready to retire. He sells the company to American Home Products Corporation for her. he thirty, six million dollar only shit so their set for life? They did it so when Helen and for first need Frank is still married to his second wife, the marriages on the rocks it ends shortly after and when his divorces finalized, he proposes to Helen, and they get buried soon after that assistance that

do you think he shoved the ring inside five chewed up Karmu, ah slick do want prepare into the wrapper. Do you want this? Oh my god, it's like when I told you you can't spit out. The and he car is like. Will you never split this out, never turned out as a symbol of your love to me and you, like it, tastes like fucking stuffing, actually getting awaiting what in time ring in my stuffing handling a thing Ok, so this marriage launches Helen from lower middle class life into the life of the extraordinarily wealthy that girl, so they have their estate and Glenview just just north of Chicago than they rent a home and palm Beach, so they can get out of those midwestern winter and out of the Amsterdam Treaty Of course, Helen indulges in the finer things she was gorgeous outfits.

tons of jewelry. She loves a fur, even though she is all about donating to animal causes. That's for big philanthropy thing, but she also absolute, He loves a ferko. I also thank the two made were intertwine back then let it not at all like not, but not for foxes. Only for like me, ass an die. He hasn't, it wasn't the concept of animals. It was re these dogs here in front of me, total and other than that. You need to watch me flax and see how truly rich I am because not only am I wear a fox fur, I'm wearing a dead folks around my neck with its face. With little weird eyes, yeah have chinchilla go for it Helen, oh Heavens, also very generous with her family society. The shares money you know His first F buys both her parents and her brother houses in back in a they still have nice.

Nineteen. Seventy at the age of seventy nine Frank Brok passes away Helen Frank never had kids in their twenty years of marriage. So now on finds herself a lot of money and a lot of time on our hands she's alive. I flung lover of animals, so she gets really involved in animal welfare charities and she establishes the Helen brought foundation which gives a grandma need to animal rights case organization. Thank you animal rights organizations to welfare causes at one point she even charters. Plain flies in the Bahamas and returns with a sick animal so that it can be he did in Chicago by her favorite that how can just donates a significant amount of money to the Chicago zeal. They actually the naming the primate House after Helen Brow of it still like that to this day Let us now Chicago murdering us, so Helen is what some

might call Corky. Others might call newly rich in Stoke sure. So she loves you money for animal rights and fight for animal rights. even though she wears furs, she has two dogs that she loves. Candy and sugar I it's a candy company. when they die, there are buried in a pink marble, mausoleum that frankest then also later buried in that half a million dollars money, Ma Money, Helen Chief detailed journals, she's also into automatic writing, which you may I've heard of it it it's the spiritual writing practice where the writer entrant enters a trance like state and lead the spiritual world guide, their writing associates teenagers in this just interesting, kooky shit like that which is very well like she's, very popular, very social. She has lots of friends who she talks.

on the phone all the time and that come over all the time. So she is living her life to the fullest, automatic writing charting caring about animals, hobbes of the rich and famous right, and now suddenly she's, just disappeared, no ones from heard unkind and no one knows where she is, she hasn't talk to anybody. So when Jack Matlock goes to the Glenview, These department to report Helen missing there turn away, saying that he's not a family member, so he has to call up hellenes brother. Charles were he's the whose down in Ohio to come up to glow the EU and help him out, and so Charles immediately does, but before they go to the police They meet at Hellenes state to reportedly look for any clues as to where she might be, and then they not ain't anything, but they do decide. to burn all of Hellenes journals claiming later that she left behind instructions telling them to do that quote. If anything ever happened,

I am sorry, the liberals spare sketch so in instigator start looking into how spin Jack Matlock story, They ask airline workers who were on the February seventeenth Flight from Russia, Esther to Chicago they Recall seeing Helen on board, but nobody does buddy, and then more than four weeks, so it it wasn't, they weren't really reliable account. The please try to figure of Helen could have Seen or spoken to anyone over the weekend when she was at home and Glenview, but the phone records show she took him. Oh calls during that time. Between Thursday February seventeen and Monday the twenty first Jack Matlock claims that Helen did go out to dinner one night with friends of hers, but he don't know who they are, and no one ever comes forward corroborating his story. So unnamed friends mentioned, do authorities that they had dropped by the estate to visit Helen during at time, but when they got there jack

seldom. That Helen was too busy getting ready for her upcoming trip to Florida and she was available, but this is where things get fishing is the one thing hellenes friends know about her is that she is like a hyper prepared traveller. So the idea that Besides she hadn't booked a ticket to Florida fur, February Twenty first, nor had she pact any of her bags. for the trip right. He idea that she would just go to the airport and show up and take it all take care of it all when she got there is makes no sense for her, and on top of that, she wasn't known to be a morning. Person at all sounds very out of character for her or to want to be at the airport around six. There are seven in the morning you man, Russian, especially when the first flight out of Chicago to Florida that day didn't leave until ten. I am now and when your riches fuck, you don't have to be at the airport. or hours earlier, remember, the fact know your first class or we should

he had so much money. She could be chartering a private j. I would thing sure, get a big can lavender JANET arouse candy company. What agent, when please Jack, talons friend in Florida, Richard Bailey, he tells the police but he was at the colony hotel in Palm Beach that weekend with the young woman here said he knew Helen was coming into town, because Jack Matlock called him called him that she would be arriving on Monday, the twenty first, but when she didn't arrive before Lauderdale. That Monday, Richard Bailey called the estate, but he claims the Jack Matt answered and told him TAT, Helen, wasn't N Bailey told police Then he tried to contact Helen a few more times, but she was never available to talk so he gave up because figured she dropped him for another bow. So then Jack like informs the police officers that, before her departure, Helen had written in a couple of tax totalling more than fifteen thousand dollars so

then they bring in handwriting experts for these checks and they can pair them to Helen Brock's handwriting and it does not match and then so. This makes Jackleg insanely suspicious, although why would he bring it up right like it? Does it's crazy but they're not going you're guilty that use and has just oh you ever talk, cry like spoil her explaining and possibly were if you're innocent you go. Why wouldn't I tell you this? You fail everything and then it's like. Why would you be saying that so them when they say this, writing isn't Ellen Brock's Jack Matlock says she had injured her right hand and had to write the cheques with her left he's gonna. server everything he would mean he does either that or its what happened. It's but its both its either rang. What's going on so the play You have no way of proving or disproving prehistory about Hellenes hand, injury, because their nor Helen Helen is when they tell Jack's, hang handwriting against the raw handwritings on the Czechs there. It appears

to not be a match, but they never tests any other handwritings eyes. Then the authorities are told the during the weekend of February, seventeenth through the twenty first Jack Matlock had the rooms in Hellas estate, re carpeted and repainted ok on top of that receipt show that he had purchased a small meet grinder attack hunt for a blunder that seem weekend Oh now, ok, so these facts you leave, please, is to develop this theory. The Jack Matlock killed Helen at the estate and then dispose of her body using that me growing our cause. I would take forever yes for real. When investigators examined the meek render it's completely clean, there's no trace of any human anywhere on it. It's also play too small to grind human remains. It just doesn't make sense when they quest in the contractors who read did the room in the house. They all say that their

nothing out of the ordinary in the room. There's no blood, and there were no signs of foul play, Oh, then Hellenes gardener tells detectives that he'd seen Matlock inside Hellenes House with two strangers that weaken and that One of the strangers was a young woman who was wearing a bit I need, and a wig similar to hellenes are now then. Please find in Matt Possession a receipt dated February twenty first, which was the Monday that he's taken her. Therefore, for a toll exit near a farm. owned by Helen in distant Ohio, so Jack Matlock become the primary says backward may question: extensively, and they make recount his story. Over and over and over, but it never changes. He swear. up and down that he had nothing to do with hellenes disappearance. He had no apparent motive, he and Helen always got along well any clans. It he's not in her will, so he does stand to gain any money from her death. He says

hopefully the he showed the Glenview police, a copy of hellenes well to prove that he's not in it, but the police claim they have never seen hellenes well, but I would even have it like that something her brother or her parents would have under the hour her lawyer or yet entire business staff or yeah yeah. Exactly as that is that the kind of thing that she would keep around the house yeah so Jack, agree to take a light, attacked or test. He actually agrees on multiple occasions. He takes multiple tests. Each time there were caught, the results come back inconclusive, he's fired from his post at the estate and he and his wife for forced to move out of the schomburgh residents without Hellenes body or any hard evidence indicating foul play or any harm done on jocks part. The police have to eventually dropped Jack is a suspect, and the case goes called so with Ellen, still missing and not be so unable to be legally declared dead. Her trust just valued somewhere between a hunter

twenty two hundred and thirty million dollars is left in limbo. So someone has to manage it in her absence and our long time account and ever more claims that he he should be that person, but because the trust is set up with Helen in the Continental Illinois Banking, equal, co trustees. The bank wants to manage a horse so to settle this dispute. Adjudge rules that an independent third party has to investigate the matter to determine if you should get to control Hellenes estate until she found either alive or dead, so if she's still alive, of course, shall resume control and if she is found dead, they'll have to refer to her, will and distribute the accordingly. So this third party investigator is a former Chicago BAR Association Head named John CAD Walter Mank. So did determine how Helen Wooden on her money spent Mank asks her law. They are if he can see, are well, but the lawyer says no, you can't it's attorney client privilege

No one can see it until she is declared legally dead with that make moves Don T question Jack Matt like again, story remains the same. He says that, according to the will, he once saw the money and hellenes estate is most to go to various animal, why A fair charities and to her brother else Charles's question next he's cooperative. He has very little insight and he doesn't seem to be especially interested in Hellenes money, the third person man questions is the friend that Helen Brok was allegedly travelling to see on Monday February Twenty First Richard Bailey, the bow. So Richard. Bailey is a shovel Horse dealer in Chicago is known to have business dealings with Chicago's organised crime. Families he shows up Manx Office with his lawyer and refuses to answer any mengs questions, including confirming whether or not his name is should Bailey

so later mink meets with ever more to find out how Helen had been spending her money before she vanished and that's when they find out that most of her spending was against it in the horse trading business all true, so she had spent in only a couple years up to and may be more than a quarter million dollars on horses and show show horses coming of rich people, do thou Ray and yes fishes cause well because the horses as pets are so expensive. Like you buy them, then you have to board them. You have to train them. You have to do all this stuff, so it's like so much money is part of it. So all of this, in it I'll points back to Richard Bailey Witches, the man who is here I the middle of that horse business, and why would she

be interested in and or spending money on this route. So of course, they start wondering whether which Bailey it could have been involved in hellenes disappearance, but since its Manx job to figure How hellenes money should be managed and not to criminal, we investigate her disappearance, there's nothing! You can do what this findings so after a three year investigation Mank, goes to the judge in nineteen eighty whose presided over the matter of Hellenes Trust and says his investigations inconclusive. The judge puts hellenes it out and ever more in charge of her trust and says. If she hasn't turn up in the next four years, then they can return to the court and petition Tavern declared dead, which is what they end up having to do on May twenty. Fourth, nineteen, eighty four, which allows for her well to finally be executed and her brother to collect overt two hundred thousand dollars and interest from her trust, but much the remaining money in that trust. Ngos goes to charities. So, oddly

not even though he claimed not to be included in Helen Brock's, will Jack Matt Leg is also given fifty thousand dollars which, later on in ninety ninety three he ends up having to give back because of all that stuff. What the check, we are basically Charles where he's an Alan's estate starting do bring civil law suit against him, no car. If he doesn't give up that that claim Disease basely taken more than that. So that's what he does in the whole thing gets dropped so then in nineteen, eighty, nine after supper, women report being victims of an interstate wire fraud. U s the attorney start investigating and they led to the ship I'll go horse business and whose name comes first and overnight here again, but Richard Baileys, so on the surface. Richard Bailey looks like a successful honest business man who makes us, but money buying and selling, show horses he owns Bay,

Lee Stables and Country Club Stables, Annie established himself as a well known figure in the Chicago equestrian market, but their investigation quickly reveals that allow on time, criminal organisation called the Jane gang had by a man named Silas Jane is essentially running all horse business in Chicago and Richard Bailey. it is one of his closest business partners. So what it really It turns out to be is that Richard Belly is like a lonely hearts con man you're, just like the lowest of the lower so and Ellen Brok wasn't his first or last victim. So say Richard Bailey would romance rich older widows, introduce this them to his horse business, bring him down to the stables GINO yeah and have been mixed in with all of those people convince them. They should also by horses and be involved in that scene, and then

fleece them for everything that he could take basic. Is normal corn was that she would say I have these horses I've I've located some horses that you should buy and basically selling these women grade F horses at a greater price, but he also did a bunch of other stuff. This is actually a quote from the true tv dot com article by Mark, driven, it says quote, executing his schemes, Bailey was not averse to taking advantage of his victims weaknesses he plight, Alcoholic with champagne and cocktails, while she her daughter visited the stables he schemes, defraud, gravely ill women by obtaining their powers of attorney. When he visited them in the hospital Jesus, when Valium and as much money as he could from the women he did the relationship, Occasionally he passed the woman onto his co conspirators forts for them to further defraud the women

God. Victims were often left, broken, hearted and destitute. So these were rich. We that's when he met them yeah and he basely took them for all their worth. So scheme. This recurring of his errand him, the nickname the galloping gigolo in eighteen, seventy three, should Bailey met Helen Brok in the Chicago suburb of Morton Grove. While there are having lunch. a very soon after started dating in ninety. Seven five Helen mentions two Richard that she to buy some horses of her own and he casually mentions that his brother Pga Bailey as a jockey who could sell her. A few his horses. She answered by three horses from PJ's at spending the eight thousand dollars they were worth altogether less than twenty thousand dollars some reckoning, of course it is what wanting missing from their release

to ship continues through New year's eve of nineteen seventy seven, so they actually went to New York City together and party that the world of restoring on New year's Eve Fritz Badass, but soon after Richard Bailey and another man set up a horse showing for Helen and try to convince her to buy like to spend basically a hundred fifty thousand dollars on more horses and and horse showing Helen. She starts getting this weird feeling she feels like something fishy is going on. She has leaving this showing up after, like less than an hour, so now she's optical about Richard Bailey. So she gets a third party appraiser to take a look, could be worse now and so she had been told basically George Bailey put her in touch her than appraiser I, and that man told her. Or by these horses, but you also need to train them, and so she was like all signed up to have these horses trained in all that her third parties. razor comes in and as like, not dont train these horses.

Doubt it's not worth it like that. It's a complete scam, so earth such as onto them, she's tone we are too rich, Yeah he's, as she knows, he's the one doing it she's her. In she's angry, so, She confides in her friend that she thinks that she's being conned by this man who she thought was her boyfriend near the friend, is connected to the state prosecutor's. Helen, agrees to set up a meeting with the state attorney's office about this when she gets back from her appointment at them. El Clinic in Rochester now, but of course that Meeting with the sad attorney's office never takes place because Helen is never seen again So now must one years later assistant: U S attorney Stephen Miller is working on the case and he will continue to work on this case for the next five years. Doing everything he can and to find out if Richard He was involved in Hellenes disappearance, and it is an easy because anyone who could

suppose Richard Bailey is too fearful of the Jane Gang back to talk they are known for, violent retribution. You dont mass by July nineteen. Eighty four Miller finally has enough for a twenty nine count indictment against Richard Bailey, including racketeers fraud, conspiracy to murder, soliciting murder and cause the murder of Helen Bra Richard Bailey decides to plead guilty the fraud and racketeering charges, but please not guilty to every charges, says added with Helen Brock's, murder and disappearance his trial. But the conspiracy charges begins nation. Eighty five at last two weeks and attitude I'll Miller reveals Helen Brok told Richard Bailey that she would be going to the district attorney about him to fraud, her. So she did tell him here and while his victims had threatened to see him before Bailey had only ever faced small time. Civil suits summits,

Going directly to the d would bring a whole new level of difficulty and basically expose this com that involved lol, some people and the mafia and all the shadow he'd be he became over like he'd, be Cairo his snatch, the James Gang too, and why right yeah. Then to everyone's surprise. Another con man named Joe Clemens testifies it just two weeks before Helen went missing. Richard Bailey had offered him five thousand dollars to kill Helen Brok according to plan, men's. There were a whole group of co conspirators involving hellenes murder. her unnamed witness who is granted immunity wrote a statement explaining that Helen was picked up by car in Rochester, then brought back to Chicago where she was either beaten or strangled by plemons accounts,

he was forced to shoot Helen, so he basically admits had beaten her and then they had cut put her in in like a bag, they thought she was dead, but they were positive. So they made him go and shoot twice in the bag. So they knew for a fact that she was dead. Then they accord, to witness testimony transferred the body to Jerry Indiana, wear it was destroyed in a steel furnace. Ah my so fuckin tragic, yes,. maybe night, like nice, normal woman just wanted a fuckin liver got em rate in there just cut they just can disappear, pure her, so they can continue to scam, elderly, sad lonely, rich women. It's just my stirs yeah the it's against Bailey becomes very convincing, but there's no hard, conclusive evidence to tie him or any of the apparent

oh conspirators to her death. Even so the judge tells the court quote: it is more pro the bull than not Richard Bailey did commit the affair. Says of conspiring to murder and soliciting the murder of Helen Brok and with that based on the paper, Hundreds of evidence sixty six year old, Richard Bailey is handed a life sentence that is there reduced to a thirty year sentence Additionally, the investigation into the fraudulent horse business dealings and the apparent murder of Helen Brok leads indictment of nineteen other people for various crime while and of those one sixteen entered guilty, please, the others are guilty on their respective crimes at their trials. Basically, the work on Helen, rocks case leads a thought please assault several murder cases dating back to nineteen. Fifty five holy shit yeah. Oh him so

the aftermath of all. This is basically the Jack Matt lick after leaving the brow, house in Schomberg him and his wife moved Butler Pennsylvania and oh, when Richard Bailey went on trial, the media found Jack Matt like again and questioned him about hellenes death. He early tells them quote. I dont know who killed Helen Brok and I've. No, I what happened to her Jack Matlock dies natural causes in twenty eleven in two thousand five new information comes to light, revealing the possibility that it was not George Bailey who ordered the head against Helen Brok, but another member of the criminal Cohort Baileys fence team files, an appeal for a sentence reduction, but on March twenty first, two thousand five, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, adamantly rejects it? Saying the quote: new evidence, This does not establish by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant

the actually innocent of conspiring to murder Helen Brok weight. so, do we now and they look you're getting to this are always at times, but the so that the house boy have nothing to do with it. Yeah there's no evidence that he had anything to do with it. But why did you lie about taking her to the airport? I don't We don't know how he did we. Dont know where she disappear, but this SIRI has become when she was at the veil clinic that that they went to Minnesota their Rochester Minnesota and women like picked her up there. I did that doesn't explain why he, be telling people she's going to Florida she's packing. You can't see her right now like it feels like he might have gotten caught up in it as well, but there's no evidence to Linkum. That is ask me saying what I said after reading other people, yeah fishing does that there is no conclusive he each year they just

but in Lincoln, and there is that thing of like his story, never changes right which so it's like some yes somewhere in there they're just so much suspicious Ray behaviour in facts and things that just kind of don't add up or be great getting answers on that we are not going to Sir Richard Bailey here, spends it basically, he it's out of prison. When he's ninety years old to hunt, he serves almost all of his thirty year sentence. What what up to be a thirty year sentence and when he gets out here Claims that he and Helen were quote madly in over these other and they were quote going to get married It maintains that he had no involvement whatsoever with the disappearance and or the murder of Helen Brok. So my My question about that is that when the police first talked to hurry

did he say I will. I met a hotel with young lady here. If he's in love with Pelon yeah, of course, the Ets. he has to tell the boys look. Here's my alibi was re sleeping. With the woman that I let the widow that I love that's sixty five this year. There is so as frustrating is the mystery of her death. Is the memory of Helen Brok lives on through her philanthropy? organization, the Helen Brok Foundation, so she's issues syn It started basically, since she was declared dead, that foundation has been giving money to fund Chicago area causes like, as we said, the animal rights. Causes are animal wellness causes, but also its given grants for schools, it's locked funding to help the homeless and tons of funds. For the arts. Ah, but to this day

case of Helen Brock's. Disappearance remains unsolved and that is the story of the mysterious disappearance of the candy Lady Helen Bra wow great job. Thank you have it so sad and tragic and mysterious, but clearly so we're near this was. This is one of those ones it's been done on, so many true crime shows that their I feel like it similar to the golden secular, were there was when they, when it got reopened in the nineties. There were update shows about this case because it because the first version of it- if I remember this crackly, first version was basically it's the house, when her, how fry settle everyone thought and then oh here's, some nefarious, shaggy actually going out and everyone else. Yes, hats, tragic, but that idea

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