Episode 37 - Dan (@schreiberland), James (@eggshaped), Andy (@andrewhunterm) and Anna (#getannaontwitter) discuss volcano cremation, the world's oldest spider web, prison newspapers, the emergency Olympic Games, and what happens if you kill the pope.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
We want to help you I see, is which was there's no such thing as fish seriously as the oxen dictionary of water like set it right now. Sixteen low welcomes you another episode of no such thing as a fish. A weekly thought has coming to you from the queue offices in covering darn, and my name is dan schreiber and sitting here with an adjacent ski Andy, Murray and james heart. In and once again, we gathered round the microphone with our fourth. They were, in fact from the last seven days and in no particular order. Eureka noting with back summer one that is designed ski yeah nice like this week, is that
Eighteen, seventy four there was a plan to transport dead bodies from all over europe to mount vesuvius and threw them in the form of a super villa. Well, maybe maybe so, as reported in a couple of these, they process goes from the time as one article in the daily gazette for middles bra
which describes how an american company has got some capital to erect railways or, like have trains running all over europe, and it takes people have died, he won't be permitted in mount vesuvius and it runs them up mount vesuvius and then it tosses them.
into the burning.
Other below, and
it's so. I can't find any
criminals, area on dry and the company ever happened seem strange that it would only be reported in the Middle east, where gazelles missiles are both in the new york times in the same year. Ok, so I just told you in, as the train passes, it just sort of tips the carriages over the edge of a vital back on what I think the train, for he stops it up as any other article. It mentions that there would be some sort of a chapel built at the top of mount vesuvius way could have a small funeral service before you reward tipping your family member and be better if the tracks, when actually over the caldeira and then just tip
now, as it were. Just like me, if the bottom just opened up here, you just drop them out. Is there always lover the bottom? No there's not see is that's. That's it we're thing that they always say with during people into volcanoes ally that this is what they always say. If there's an active volcano yeah, the few
from a volcano. Are enough to kill you, so anyone trying to arouse someone into a volcano would die immediate.
a purely just off the back of an energy even do at a certain point. So there was one more source which meeting seventy eight, which was just before vesuvius, had an eruption I think it was like vesuvius is getting ready from behind in a movie and future very european local papers. I think it was a public and waiting to erupt and ass the ideal moment. That's when you want to catch it, there's a really funny lesser that was written to the new york times around this time about this idea and is: has its recently occurred to certain forefront ingenious persons at the constant fire maintained in the crater. Vesuvius generates enormous amount of heat which is wholly wasted. Occasionally, a native italian has inadvertently slipped into the volcano and has vanished so suddenly and completely that not even a trace of garlic could be sent on nothing but a silent hand. Organ and the bereaved monkey remained to recall the fact that a citizen of free italy rushed into flame and dissipated in the gases.
It goes on, and this is just raises. The italians these are the new york times. Even the stout is british tourist who has toppled into the crater while searching for a good place to boil a t kettle:
disappeared before he could fairly mentioned his purpose of writing to the times newspaper in denouncing the neglect of the local authorities to rail in the crater well to be further got to attack us here, one bringing in whining pylos. Sometimes we think journalism is always getting worse, but I think that we have definite proof that it. So
let's get better and well. I didn't
I think it is quite amazing. The repulse garlic is going to tell him troop an italian phelan, not even his beget and stripy jersey remain of trademark. Bearing on this one will pass on this matter, which is good and which the needs a prosperous ports as well, which is one of the advantages of this service. This funeral service is that
nor does have seen the remains of their loved ones. Comfortably created in the finest natural furnace in europe, constraint,
distract them lies and delay their grief by enjoying the view from the summit of the mountain and making a subsequent visit to all points of interest in naples in the vicinity, and this newspaper reports that you'd get
the train right would come with a voucher to spend in Naples ones. You got eyeing. This is really cool. Speaking of my master,
there's a new project to jersey, if we can trail fathom withdrawal before into the earth and will see if we can get basically to that why the magma starts
Isn't it with that? The furthest we ve ever sent an object away from this earth is twenty billion miles. So now, I think, is the
voyage. I wasn't, there was sent on the seventies it's now twenty billion miles away the furthest we ve ever got into the earth and does not want or trying as twelve columbus's is really hot them.
Who always really that hold in space yeah yeah, it's just Israel, stuff that the judges just saying who, in space you got no stuff people, I'd like it such a big deal, but actually mostly space or a couple of molecules per cubic metre in space strippers much much viewer than
in the ground loads of molecules, literally, every centimeter ass molly knew about the slight stock come official
will explain a question of the year for two thousand and seven was why don't we drop medical,
waste and nuclear waste into active volcanoes hay. And what was the answer, though, blow up nuclear waste all over southern italy? I will read out his lay sickly and put it in maastricht. It wouldn't is no hot enough to start pit from being radioactive, but it would just kind of fire it straight back into the atmosphere
So we have a nuclear volcanic eruption, I'm not going to question the cause. I think that's one of the silliest questions I've ever heard. I read, though, that one of the issues with a volcano eruption is that, obviously, over the months after it lava can just still travel towards towns, and they don't know how to stop it. They don't know what to do right. One of the things that they tried back long time ago was they bombed the lava
literally bombed the area where the love was going insane. George patented. That's the idea was to divert the erection of the. U can get a little in the channel, the yes, and so he launched the bombing attack on law.
Why is a volcanic island called ferdinand data which is off the coast of sicily, and it is only a
of sea level when its erupting so normally it's not so
not on very many maps and so nineteen, eighty six, the america? U S, efforts flew over embalmed thinking, it was a libyan submarine
really yeah. There's a volcano in tanzania isn't never erupts black lover
the only example of of evoking european citizens in the world,
This is made of a carbon tax incentive silicate silicon
materials. But I love is its curry.
I dont know: lush exactly can run about five hundred degrees celsius, which is not so much cool the normal over. This is ready. Ghouls Sicily
I used to use the slopes of mount etna to keep their food cold. Ok
because the snow all over the slaves of mount etna. So they used the caves in the side of the mountain to keep fruit called
I got lemons and yet the narrow
like snow down. There may like an ice cream kind of thing. He probably took credit for it
narrow tramples over intellectual property rights of others,
the lens speed record on a bicycle was set on aid on a volcano,
it was on the serum, negro witches in nicaragua. I think on the slide
can really steep slope, and so people go down that quite often for fun on this was done by a frenchman called Eric thereon known as the red baron.
And he reached a hundred and seven miles per hour before his carbon fiber mountain bike snapped into
sending him tumbling down the last section of the mountain he broke. Five ribs dislocates a shoulder on muscles and his hum.
But got. The record
worth it. Do we know
the thing I always sees when people trying to break spread records and that, for example, cycling is like a long but he's like, along with an enormous truck driving ahead of you really and you'll, really close behind it. All you have to have asked to speak like heavily
The governor the resistance safer, if your peddling rice guys,
going down. A massive miles is a very real and it s more, like plummeting greatly negotiating as true. I was actually unicycle speculation. The book us cause my facts about running, but running,
easier. Supposedly I read this earlier today. I can believe it running is easier at about twenty two
Please celsius when the emperor is there or higher, because there are few molly,
It was to get in your way as you
much easier in spain is much more difficult when you go through them. I don't believe that much different. I only lost that one can writing. There are a lot of molecules. My life was full of molecules time too, and that is harkin. Ok, my thought this week is that in two thousand and ten,
then wastewater treatment plants in baltimore was found to be homes,
an estimated one hundred and seven million spiders with the density of thirty five thousand one hundred and seventy six spiders per cubic metre? I feel sorry for the work experience boy who had to count the didn't have a fear of spiders before, but it does now. He, I wasn't estimated number they ve kind of extrapolated that to get the number and they were all alive there on libya.
greatly alarmed me can catch any fish have just found out. They found spiders comes by his father at least five species spider, which one of them is the dilemma. Despite which can catch fish, the fish are on average, twice their size and
ankara, their hind legs to like a stone in a lake or river, and then they grab the finnish with africa is amazing, is pretty
yeah, but is really cool. I read that they face,
I'm. Not long ago, the oldest spiderweb ever ok
it was in a sussex. I think it was initially it was an amber. It was you I was like from dinosaur days and there they were studying and tires.
It definitely very stupid question
by all means around the echo learning to ask
why are we not for the things that we want to preserve? Let's say for a long time the future just coating in amber like imagine. If dinosaurs cover themselves an amber, we might have a full dinosaur actually thing as Britain they yeah
Doesn't I don't know where we would get enough? Hamburgers, obviously, is the low quantities shall we have better ways of keeping things like I'm sure. I just want to know that I just from history. The only things survive through that are in perfect states are things and amber that,
just seems like an obvious time capsule over other thing,
on its own can simply waiting
why do spiders not get stuck on their own website? You know that they have some kind of lubrication around their legs. Well, nobody is a hundred such
but what it seems like his that they leave.
Glue on the webs in only little blobs all the way around, and they just simply tiptoe around it. So they don't stand on their own bits of clue and if they do stand on it, then it's a little bit of a pang like getting. You know, chewing gum on your shoe or whatever, but it's not that bad, but when a fly comes in sweat, he hits like fifty blobs at once, and so
What makes some sort of such a big amount, so it's kind of like a bond filmore, something we have to avoid the lasers. If you're a fly like proposes a change in the film creep around them.
Maze of blue interminable share of a grateful, the ogre faced by the court as such has massive eyes, which may the congo and day like as much upright for it anyway. It is pretty ugly and it does this really clever things. They reminded me when you said, despite his drops, little drop us on their web. First of all, it spends a web between its front legs, so acts as a sort of like a
The fly capture will hang down from his back legs above wherever it wants to state cuts the flies and then swings this web or net. This microfinance front legs ass, its prey unconscious,
and the way that it knows when to swing. Is it grace target by doing a little white who on the ground, and it leads to the white? Bravo feces is the target and as soon as is in the dark assumes, it sees an insect of some. So across this bit of pooh drops down upon it gets in its net.
seems a very clever what european the lifespan of a spider is.
Surely ten is ten years so
I know the answer come. What I do know is, I know the the as far as we know, the oldest living spider, so that, in spite of the longest lifespan, ok, twenty eight years then makes it
add one that was captured in nineteen, thirty, five, the world's oldest spider and its twenty
I was actually does it drink a lot of milk or bird eating bird.
You saying: okay, I eat foods. I smoke twenty cigarettes a day. I don't exercise, I dunno. How I do it I was. I was reading about the oldest recall
the person who lived beyond and twenty two sided. Ninety ninety shadow over yeah yeah she quit smoking. I think, five years before she died. She was a hundred and seventy seven ok, honest. I enjoyed I've put Deborah this until the other day she was born in the year. The edison made the first sound
transmission and she died in the other hansen released
What did for in the end she was lonely said I only have one wrinkle and I'm sitting on a transfer cracking so just put the original fighting.
Context, which is that there are a hundred seven million spiders here with the density of thirty five thousand per cubic metre. The standard amounts of spiders that we think are in, like a british failed, would be about forty nine per square.
that's got a lotta is still quite a lot about. Was a study done in nineteen. Fifty eight in a six meadow in the ninety nine lays, if you look at photos, they want she over whelmd. Who is always film has whether one's got our mouths shut in early photographs is to stop the spider getting. So is this the case of year when they say if you leave rats and they breed in the region,
the rate or any is. Is this a case of just a total isolated sort of airline earnest farm? I think that just small all day, the baltimore want yeah yeah, that's basically they had no predators there. They were allowed to just creates as much they wanted and eventually those
hundreds of millions of them its extraordinary meeting massive glass with new to put that out issue. What have they done with doing? The way was, why did I think I got the rascal days said they, the people at the bottom and waste water treatment plant, put out a cool for extreme spider hell,
is an understatement. Fatima grammars diff extremist right wing extremism, airline help. Do they spied about everybody. False calls of people want
just get rid of guys, I'm feeling with some proper growing here that none of that same thing, sir yeah catwoman there still not married that's my backed my back this week- is that, according to the vatican, the greatest pop out on the whole time is revolver by the beatles. I would have
but what use are be rude personally but trouble. I know it is created with the devotional. How many would, according to the vatican, boys, the vatican newspaper, who today, they published a list of what they consider to be the best albums of all time? Is the vatican, these medical propriety mail id go laws
Laos, avatar, review conference
mary learning han in italian. The weird thing is first off the beetle,
were the ones who more famous in
I'd be banned in the world for having association with a fight with the charge. When John Lennon said that the beatles were bigger, yeah
and christianity always argument either. But I saw this as our than Jesus anybody else's. Christianity would shrink and fade away. In that very same, and I thought he said it despairingly hide think it wasn't. I didn't think he was celebrating the fact that they have the decency was deleted or adding that it was the very notion of what is I mean it lead to people with burning their records in the streets, throwing all their merchandise. It was a huge by huge backlash. It was one of the biggest sort of moments.
The career that they have to recover from wow, but so it's it's interesting they've. Given him a pardon now, they've pardoned him for saying what he said. They they said the beatles were satanic music, but the list is just I mean it's pretty. It's just a mismatch. You don't expect the vatican to be saying the beatles David, crosby, pink, floyd, fleetwood
mac, donald fagin, donald fagin, as the lead singer, steely dance and even a steely dan album
this is all over now, yes, Spinoza, it's like the equivalent of like nominating a jump on jovi solo, album and not upon jovi album like it's just a very obscure choice.
so I think this newspaper is trying to hit up. Isn't it I've read there
as a basque and thought it was getting a bit days it all this. We still love the hens,
When we like our big long robes and across necklaces. I think there was a movement in within this newspaper to say: let whip with a guy's answer now
The report is that the review harry potter, which is again at issues with the church and I said to the half the prince- was good because it showed a clear line of demarcation between good and evil.
This is because there, the Vatican's, exorcist, really didn't like it.
No no, the atomic yak videos,
things that yogurt attack
I think many sir. He needs to get with. It is eighty nine
He lay there was a big feature about this paper, the guardian, and it said that until two thousand and seven this was done at the old days for loss of authority, there were two kinds of articles: the first one was
those in which a Vatican department had definitely direct
intervened in, and they had a code for that which was three asterisks
east above or near the article. Four. The other kind of commerce didn't have the astrid somewhat those which have been written by Lhasa vittorio stuff, but they were so careful note about any one of these articles were totally unreadable. Boring. Snow territories are really the propaganda tedium,
this kind of sage that they believe they shaken up about business. It's not the it's, not exactly. The official voice of the church, as it is now in place between YAP, official and unofficial, is its allowed. Its allowed in the vast again it's a paper, that's kind of seen as a daily paper there, and it seems to have a lot of its the place where, if, if the pope has something to say they'll, be the people to publish I so much they middles, but does that fact that back? Do you guys know about the apostolic penitentiary system? Throughout my thoughts on the total investment parquet, Lithuania is in no. What is it so? It's this tribunal as the eldest as the oldest established
of the holy see as citizens. Eleven seventy nine and is where you go when you come, is destined to heinous to be forgiven by priests. If you ve got a confession, lingered confession that breaches like woe out of my pay grade
you go to the apostolic penitentiary tribunal- and there are five since to evil issue- guess what
go on go for murder on I met as easy genocide.
As you can get genocide forgiven by astounded, priest people happened here you what your local wholly hell, berries, you have to say for the link. It takes a couple of weeks, slicing in your so three of them analysing the pope was cool
Europe is bump me
democracy, his ring so much as a vague about killing the pope. You can kill the type that is understandable and there are three ways just apply to people who want to work for the church, serve your priests and even in any way involving an abortion than you have to go here to confess to directly to the pope and if you're priests tooth and confessed to, and then you ve broken your oath, not to say a convention and then the only other one that normal people like us can commit and we'd have to be sent to ask and is if we d face the eucharist, what you mean
local church. If I get body of christ and drop it
Don't call me that dropper play the high second rule as more three day rule. It is
if you're doing it intensely. There was a scientist in america recently friend since you drove a rusty now for a bit of communion with, then I think the church is pretty pissed off with him about that. I, like the just like the idea of the pope listening support music. I don't think he does it's. Obviously,
this paper that saying that there are a lot of like when you read about people who are in high power positions and they admitted liking certain things.
With the dalai lama is very good mates with the red, hot chili peppers and the beastie boys, which is just such
weird mismatch, but he recognised that he could put free to conference on use the power of these pop stars and realise that the people who spoke to people say became very good made for them.
David Cameron, you noticed favour album, is commonly copa now he's he said that it was dark side of the moon, piping, lloyd. I am button. He everyone knows that. That's a lie because everyone knows his favorite album is the queen is dead by the smiths, but he can't say that now that he's prime minister, though he had constantly said that
for becoming private. Then when he did say he loves the smith, both marcy and johnny mar came out
hang, you are not allowed to like ban and David year. Does ridiculous anomaly up to them. I don't I just like them coming I'd say it's ours are allowed to live.
Both organisations come out and ban politicians from liking their music. After suddenly, you should never favour, should have a favorite symphony whatsoever symphony
raised that asia beethoven- seven- that is my favorite album on
at least newspapers yeah. I tell you about my favour. One which is jail mail, which is a
Politically, you magazine and its full everyone in the present system. They are there to others which go
inside time and converse as in convict and verse. So converse
I think the jail data would have been better, but, I think
the wicked anyway.
But anyway it was. It was hugely popular and is set to double its programme for us for us next edition and yeah, it's
The EU has a vice on what to do when you are on the whole, the governor and details of reading projects and how to fund
parliament has risen guy people and by personally I think a lot of it is normal use. The welcome I am lodge unlisted. I just think that's good
Can I just on the beatles yeah? I didn't realize that panting their consciences old, just smelled of urine and if
around the aisles you saw women's pay and bob geldof, as attested to this zero, because women used to turn up in what themselves so exciting these days of rolling stones. Gig smell of yours is absolutely vital. That is andrew hunter murray. My fact is that for the first fifty years of the olympics, the only event was the to attribute to spread.
must have made the two weeks of the competition, extremely boring and the votes, and that this is the modern olympics. No, this is the age of greek olympics high. So this is from a book. I've just got called eureka everything. You always wanted to know about the ancient greeks, but were afraid to ask by computer jones, and it looks like it's full of good things, and it basically has for the first fifty years it was the olympic games.
We gave this is a nice way of putting it and then, after fifty years that the four hundred meteorites particle thing is, if you wanted, the entire unimpaired was named after you like for years become the cabinet limping sort of that was instead of the athens olympics, gray, reveal the u same, bolsa limping yeah, and then they started. Having funky things like two, like boxing rustling chariot racing africa,
of the two hundred years that a recent armor yeah- that's great.
I read that that was the race in alma. The only body coverings was a helmet attention gods,
was what the recent unrest is completely naked was eventually when it's all I was thinking big heavy.
It's a virus. So it's a challenge like american football hope of a further two hundred metres wasn't even two hundred metres. Does it think one hundred? Ninety two
It's true did they call it? The two hundred pages of we just called it that we ve does that approximation. It was called stadium, live together what stadium from, and that was the measurement of a state based on that
other games as well as well as this there was the pythian games, adelphi, ready shortcomings,
the libyan games, and if you wanted the games it Dorothy, you got laurel of stateless mixing olive at these three engage. You got pine and other me and games a salary which you one, five replacing where the olympics are held in two thousand and twelve
Then that burma new m is the most physically in active burrow in the whole of the uk. Kid the assets worthless,
I live. I live and hackneyed. I'm literally I'm ten minutes away from stratford. Thirty nine point, one seven percent of people in you and take no exercise its whole ways. Do my bit strafford,
youth is surrounded away from where you live yeah. I have heard any on ngos in the
eighteen. Thirty, two olympic three thousand meters steeple chase. It was actually run over three thousand four hundred metres because an official lost council
number of lapse so goods yeah, you see, I believe, you'd be
You realize sooner
you ve forgotten. I don't know how many
I wonder if anyone else would spargo all the poor guy or the runners is coming in at the guy you, the pioneer looking at union jose require. Not only would we will you just try buffet, I wouldn't you cause, you know. If you try, if you stop into early, you think I'd definite able to start to get really know, but if I may,
do another lap it look like is therefore being slow. Data was the winning person you cross the boundary at the right time when the person you finished at the wrong and enjoy the same person, but it would have been at the end when like because you must ask everyone- must have put on a real best to get to the finishing line. Then again, wessel crowds chairing just really a great limping grace the we're not telling you how many lives
hasn't brilliant. Sometimes it's one sometimes is
yet as a really good idea. I guess a battle
and then we put them all and amber. This is a really good, so there's no adequate training for it go with. That is the spirit of amateurism which they would want,
They would they want. They want amateurs from the start, the dilemma they weren't. They got loads of money. Didn't they on the ancient greek limits. I think someone's worked out that guy as a police. Dietaries is extremely good at winning money. I think in his limpet games and he won a lot of events and the world.
Now that he won what would be the equipment today of over fifteen billion dollars in modern day, while fifteen billion just zoomed enabling events, I think they work out on the percentage against like say, for instance, some one in the army. Yet in that
Yes, is really hard, so that there are three or four different ways of calculating anyway, so he was now. Who is there was enough to have a study and enough to pay the entire salary of the whole roman army for northern team on which he didn't do they? Could I ask the classic? What are you gonna do? What are you doing here and limits the joke?
let please marcus, was so slow and raises the grounds were locked him for the night because they thought it was a statue
this court, is from some ancient intentions athletic stroke.
Oh. I was because in nineteen o eight when we hosted the london and pics west, but we did so that those of us I'm interested in and we want supposed to hosted the reason,
in fact, fitting minutes, because that we didn't was because I think someone actually disposed to host
the emphasis is europe's in nineteen o six, so they could it so we stepped in
here is that we are. We then comes up in a number of ways, so
we included. We had all the funds up on poles around the stadium, as you do, that was the first year that became tradition. We have
chinese and japanese flag up, neither of which countries can pieces. We forgot to include the
swedish and american flags which work on pacing. So always
if we are really play about that and like oh, no, don't worry about it, so I just never mind and america brought there
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Some momentum has emerged on the way. Ok, that's that's all of our backs, thanks so much for listening everyone. If you wanna get in contact with any of us about the things we ve said over the course of this podcast, we can all be got on twitter, either at q, ipod, castor individually on shriver land. For me, james, I checked Andy them and I can be out on deepening output cost you into account, and if you go, do no such thing as a fish, don't come with all of our previous episodes there and we'll be back again next week with another episode see then.
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