I'm over Winfrey welcome to supersede conversations the podcast. I believe that one of the most valuable gives you can give yourself is time taking time to be more fully present. Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starkness right now yeah. I'm events that was born in Brooklyn in nineteen fifty three. Actually, she was born with the name Rhonda Harris more on that. A little later, her mother and alcoholic die when she was too and He was sent to live with her grandmother. Yama says her childhood was filled with fear. She was rated aged nine. She gave birth at aged fourteen and was a mother of three by the times is twenty one, but after she saw an ad for local college while writing a bus she enrolled and lay

ended up going to law school. But after three years as a public defender in Philadelphia, young LE felt a higher costs, she became an ordain minister and published her first book starting a new career. As an author, a relationship expert and spiritual teacher, you know what we're trying to do with this network is, actually the heart and soul of what supersede Sunday is all about, and I am so honoured to have you to be a part of that, because from day one you, stood, that's what I was trying to do. They want. I had every tv and a house on said I'm going to try to help you birth, this baby and don't you think it's were too it is that at this time, in our lives, we come together. So let me just referred. Everybody Yonah was on our show,

nine ease, yonder and Doktor Phil started about the same time. A yawn le decided to do her own show and she laughed she come to us and wanted to do is show I wasn't. She was ready, you went and did your own show. I went into the wonderfulness every time I think about you and I speak a lot about you with our friend my Angelou. She just says that it divine order that God was ready at this particular time. For this to happen with you and I and I think, had it not happen the way it happens, it wouldn't be so sweet right now. The many healing the many lessons the girl had not happened. The way it happens. We don't know if this could have happened. That's why it's a

All things the lessons that God would have us do so at the lessons that I learned by going to do television with another network. Another producer woke me up yeah it was it shook me to my core yeah. And I had no let's break down, though what you're talking about basically, is you went to do another show yes, and so you all now in that gets caught up in that and, if I can say, hurt and guilty about the way I left you. I have to say it hurt that I didn't understand what I had done and guilty because my drug of choice, my story, is, I always do the wrong thing. So when you said

ass. You go forward. Yes, that's not what I heard when I heard was you did the wrong thing in your being punish wow, so I'm going off now to do a new show. Would a vision feeling guilty thinking. I had hurt, you disappointed you, let you down there and then when over here would folk who had a whole another agenda that I didn't know about, so I wasn't a weakened state and didn't realize it. If I would have had any sense, I wouldn't went and sat in a court what yes. But how do you take that lesson and up I had to everyone else, because most people are going to have people offering them television. It doesn't matter if it's a marriage, if it's a ham sandwich with cheese, I would cheat on solid, no bread, yet lots of mayonnaise and a pickle it doesn't. I know what it is. Here's the lesson we

and you find yourself in a new situation and new circumstance in life. Experience or everything that requires healing is gonna rushed to the surface and if you don't take a minute to breathe, to gather yourself to pray you will do what you ve always done. So you ve got be clear, love ground. Did enough sent enough to say how am I gonna handle it this time, that's right, so the lesson is we go from being twenty to thirty without a pause. Thirty to forty. Without a pause, we go from one job to the next one, one bed to the next from one every possible, take a breath pots, and that's particularly where in particular make this mistake over and over and over again with relationships, and men, too,

get out of wine and you go into the next and you are now into the next one, because it looks different or looks bigger or the Japan and you think that your different and you bring all your old stuff too. It took me forty years to realise that I was trying to get my father's approval and except one man, forty years and I kept Rien living, my issues with my father. Over and over and over one day, my soul just opened up and the Holy Spirit said, you can't get your daddy to love. You like what you me novel. So that's when I had to take a pause and look at it and it's the truth. Oprah its facing the truth is hard. It is painful, as EL gives me Sunday school,

superstar children will set you free, but you have to endure the labour panes of birthing it. One of the reasons why I wanted to have you here on this Sunday is because the fact that we have come together and this new show that you have created. I will tell you when I saw the first episode. I said to Myself- that's the best thing I have ever seen on television, and that includes my twenty five years of doing it and that saying alive, because I've had some moments that you now I've saw. That is there's something about this new show that actually takes, in my opinion, but you do what we are trying to do at this network and just the whole vision of lifting people and allowing them to step into the possibilities of takes it to another level where it's it's doing the work out loud

during the work out loud making it practical, yes and its hard work. The spiritual and making a practical taking intellectual concept in bring- to the everyday purse. As I say, I want people to live, better lie: yeah yeah, you out there early in the street, helping them do it well and doing it based on what I know to be Yeah cause you have lived most of it, a million limbed eyes yeah. You had every conversation imagined, so you laid the foundation for twenty five years. Now you giving the platform to the world an outing me to say now. Let's make this talk operational, ass. At a time when people are looking Oh, my god, not our people. Just looking wanting want yeah?

an early men. Well I'm in me and will and when one and willing to go there. This is what so great I read all of your facebook posts and people are a bid saying on Facebook You know I love super so Sunday I get this, but how How do I make it real in my own life and something the shared on a life class recently rom a course in miracles, all less, things. The lessons that God would have you learned now. Don't you think that that is fundamental in people being able to take the spiritual and making it operational yeah, and you realize that there is nothing happening that God isn't in that God isn't in everything you

right down when Bubu yeah. You know. Ok, ok, let's start here. What is your definition of God, then, because all there is that's my definite all there is everything all do. It took me a long time to learn the lesson that I had God but when you act an ugly you'd have not one of those people. I am one of them. I grew up even that I was wretched, born in sin. And I was headed straight for Hell. Yes, because I wanted to polish my finger. Yes and all of the do. No, yes, but you know my sister who discovered just last year. She was telling me the story that when she was taken to her home and finally adopted, this makes me want to weep that the very first day she arrives on this step. As a seven year old girl, a little girl comes from next door and wants to play with her takes it. Your house, in pink european fingernail,

and she was beaten by her adoptive mother that day, because her fingernails repainted, I don't know a God and wants to beat you because your fingernails Well, I don't know a god that wants you to suffer and be wretched. I don't know a god that doesn't forgive that's more like it and have an age where important right though, but they didn't know any better. I pallid got in a bar yet got into by Turkey Amity Georgiana doing. What is that? It's when you go to the church and you you do all of the religious ceremonies and rituals and everything- and you think that is what's gonna, build your intimate your relationship a guy and then you go home and you mean it in a wet cat. You miserable in your spirit. You knew the prayer, you do the everything in charge and try to bring church home, but church wears off around six p m on Tuesday

and let me say I love the Lord, I loved church, but there's a truth here. That's not being toll is just not being too, which is, God wants an intimate relationship with you, whether you do it at First Amy or Saint Mark is whether you do with in your heart. God wants you to smile and other people, because that's a demonstration of love. If you ve, never opened the Bible. God wants you to be good in your soul, in your spirit and trust God for every step, whether or not you think acquire yeah. Now, on page one, thirty six, my relationship with God was hit and miss at best, my marriage was on the verge of being a mess. My relationship myself was a complete disaster and I was slated to appear on open to talk about things that I was still trying to mess

I myself the reason I love this. So much is because when your relationship with God is hit amiss yet so, is your life. That's right and I had become Spurgeon lazy- and I talk about that. I had let the is of the world so occupied me, I gotta be up at six. Are gonna be here I gotta do this. I got to do that and I may time for everything that has been the kids whenever and that's ok, pray tomorrow in our ok. I don't have time right now to read description. The humiliation. Otto. I can't be sure, like a game to ya yeah, you know and then I realized- and this happened to me on the playing coming here- yes, the plane pull back back, though pulled into the runway, got to the end of the runway to take off, and you know what I did it stopped. I said even this great big ol playing takes a pause before it takes a while on

why I love guy goes gotta bring stuff like that. Never has the deep lesson I'm on the plane. Just a week, old guy get Berea Paul Bobo. Do you know how the lesson came to me? It came to me several years ago. I had gotten three golden retrievers at one time and I had Luke, Leyla, embracing and Gracie Dog, who never pause. She was always you know we were all. As always the courage it where's Gracie, whereas greater visibility and

grace you went out and the caretaker for grace. He was playing ball greasy. The ball got stuck ungracious mouth and Gracie down the instant. I saw Gracie and I come running. Oh Miss winfried something's happened, one does the instant I saw Gracie lying on the ground. I knew that that would be me if I didn't know that when you get older playing racy book, grace grace brought it to you. Yes, gracing was a moment of great. I just the instant I saw the dog. I thought. That's gonna be you and seeds. That is how life operates when you are willing and when you are open. Who would have thought that you're dead dog would be a message to you.

Who would have thought that sit net? They ended a roadway and what's happening in our world. Is people are having more and more of these aha moment? More and more of these realization, I think people. The reason we have this kind of forum is so that people can begin to trust the messages and no at happening, and you must trust them. You must pay attention. You must pay attention. Who was Rhonda Harris? That is who I wasn't my former life. She is a survivor. She is a very resourceful, broken wounded, sorrowful some Rhonda Harris is a young man. Dance birthnight! She renamed herself beyond lay in relate twenties as a symbol,

letting were also go in order to be born a new, but Rhonda Harris was never forgotten. She is the reason I am sitting here today because had it not been for her that aspect of me, would never some via the abuse, the abandonment, the rejection, Rhonda Harris was wit me when my father be the skin off my back. She was there when my grandmother abuse. We win my uncle raped me when my brother abandoned me. She was there when I got pregnant at fourteen. She was there when I got on the subway in New York to ride to Manhattan, to identify my dead chiles body. When I was fifteen, she was there. She was there when nobody else was there and then, as young LE emerged, Rhonda. No longer

they are, but not in the ground, hating her hiding her diminishing her but bury her down. Ok, boo, you, you don't get to run this. Bidding her diminishing her but bury her down. Ok, boo, you, you don't get to run this anymore. Does our come a time when the that aspect of ourselves, that is no longer working, needs to be better. Oh, yes, absolutely not buried, get not thrown down in the gown and cast off, because you must must be grateful but you had that in order to get through all absolutely yeah absolutely did you actually see it as indifferent personality in different sign? I see it as a different side, an aspect of why rendezvous cheese,

you know probably suckin Huntington Roland believe in that any this is real and that I don't deserve any of it, but since she's in her place now Yom looking just say to her, it's alright blue. I got that. When did you bury her? I must have been about twenty eight twenty When I realized that the life that I was living was not the truth of who I was why, when I was in. Sorrow and suffering. Why, when I was an attorney but still live in paycheck to paycheck, and what is that that course in miracles, quote than if you're, not at peace, I must have decided wrongly, because I am not a peace because

it is in all things: universal Energy, the divine force of law. I want the best for me once the best for love. That is no way that I came out of the project's off wealthy to go to college and law school end to end up in the house with no furniture when my children eating fast food off the floor wow. I had to go through that to get here, but when I was there, I had to look at that and said this need not be. This need not be and the reason you know, you're completely out of alignment is because you're not it pays a masterpiece, peace, United PETE, that's two key page after page I checked the pages offering welfare the challenge with a million dollar life get out welfare, Montana,

I was making a million dollars and still had that mentality of living, paycheck two pages and my beloved teacher, it said to me: have you notice That we have to have no Johnny in order to get money. My daughter, Jimmy yeah beyond those old, is daughter. Jimmy was her confidant, her rock and she says her greatest teacher Jimmy a diet of cancer, it just three years old building on the says that during her short life, her daughter opened her eyes her heart and her mind like no one else. Have you noticed that we have to have no money in order to get money? She said what that about- and I said I don't know but an end today- that was rhonda- really

barging in my life and showing me that old way of adding way of being so, I had to say to her beloved. We can have it all you had a born again moment moment and had to go to the labour panes of facing the true and the truth. Is You are not living the life, that's an alignment with who you are today: you're living the law. The generational patterns, the generational pathology of who you used to be. Let's talk about the generational pathology, most people are not even aware of cages. Carry it forward, you do what was done. You do what you saw you do.

What you heard and some of it, even though you say I'm not gonna. Do that! That's why I'm not gonna be like, while I'm gonna be like my daddy, I'm never going to do that. To my kids. I have ever going to that. You do it! You do because it's in your dna, that's what you know my my mother was the other woman. She was the other woman. She lived with my father in his mother's house, and my father and his wife lived around the corner. He had two children with a married man. He denied her. He he I hid her heed honor to her and she loved him she loved

and then you too, how did you take that on? I learned it in warm marinated in a toxic low. I took it on her sorrow, her sadness, her guilt guilt was my drug of choice I said to you. I did something wrong. I did the bad thing it was playing in my head. All of the time all of my life, it was wrong. Does mantra I'm bad, I'm wrong, I'm guilty so unconsciously, unknowingly. I constantly did things becoming pregnant at fourteen. You know stealing lying the people that I what's around myself with, so that, ultimately I would feel guilty and I would be bad. It was the way the energy lived in my body so far,

people who are on the path to trying to discover why they are where they are trying to come to some sense of self awareness trying to move forward. It's important to understand what the past empty as much as you can, but the way you can tell what and then, as set out in the EU, is looking at your patterns. Look at what you do you not the look and your mama just meekly about what you do, pause and pay attention, and now here was the real chicken for me. Is my mother, my natural birth mother was dead and nobody bothered to tell me so I didn't have the portion of my history and my stepmother was the traditional quiet. You know, don't talk about that kind of thing and some I didn't even know. The two sides living a lie for so long and that's what I did in my own life and live many live. I'm happy, I feel good.

Oh everything is wonderful of lemon alive and that is why you are so able to call it out. My belgian valley it. Yes, I can smell You say that you are. I read this that you are not a clairvoyant, but your clear here and Clare audience. I do here. Goddamn it when you say that you are? I read this that you are not a clairvoyant, but your clear here and Clare audience. I do here I hear beneath the world and in its times. I noticed robbing it in life class with that woman who was sitting right over there, what it yeah- You said what I hear you saying arousing out what you just said. What I hear, what I am hearing you there are some money. The issue is- and I was Shame on the working mother, it's hard, sometimes because it's like I say it's, the Holy Spirit will hit me in the back of my heads. They say that, and it just comes out and I'm sorry,

mom, Shotwell Self, I'm like ok, now what you gonna do with this figure and people here it if they willing in the heart is open and God is on their side, they will receive it and I know they receive it. They'll do one of two things Laughter cry when you are out on the road with a young, the fix my life before you are you you see, to be in every circumstance, and I think I've seen one two three four episodes You seem to be prayed up when you walk baby. I have to be it's not me. This is my gift. This is for this reason I was born. I get that it's not me and I'm so afraid I will say afraid of the drug of celebrity fame and fortune I'm worried about. You are because I know that This is of the ego, I know the ruthlessness of the EU, but you have already been there yeah, but it doesn't. He wants to get me.

You know why, because if he gets me it will look like God didn't win because God save me for their God. Save me Is that so strongly? I want to share the last email you sent to me that made me weep. Ok, ok! This is stated July. Sixteen And it's an email from you, all the new awareness and then a shared parts of it. You say Milady, oh please forgive me if I Rambo I'm just back from Miami. Are we shot a long long day with Evelyn, Lozada, star Basketball, wives and the wife of Bed Way Chad by goal

ass. I sat holding Evelyn in my arms. She who was portrayed herself to be a file mouth ill tempered raging maniac. I finally got there's something bigger than we could have ever imagine going on here. I'm not sure what to call it or if it has a name. Or for that matter, when I know for sure, is that what the world is about to see in a young fix my life. Is so enormous that I can hardly contain my humble gratitude for the grace and which I stand on indeed has a vision and a direction to facilitate healing the world. Oh my god, you right for this moment I was born. I only wish to me. I was here to see it to be in it with me. I know she is with me in spirit. So now I weep, I know, has not been an easy road. I know you taken a lot of

That there are many, many may sayers, not to mention haters. What I really want to say is this is not about me at all. This may not even be about you. This is women, all women, particularly women of african descent, bringing a depth and power humanity and healing into the world. In a way that is sure to have a ripple effect. When I was the other day before we started the shoot, I was led to the same scripture, was given to me when I was ordained sixteen years ago I say a sixty one. The Spirit and the sovereign Lord is upon me by the Lord, has anointed me to bring good. Thank you really thank you for that. I think that I guess they d have to stay there. I left the ego you have to stay, but I have to stay right there.

Let me just tell you what that moment did for me. This has not been an easy climb, but I have to to hold on to the vision? I've had to expand a vision to some things, and I didn't think I whenever do but trying just to hold onto the vision and literally this show we're doing right now, superstar Sunday is the heart of that vision. And the work that you are doing is the soul of that vision. In is the manifestation of what I had in mind when I said all right, I'm going to say yes to the network. So getting this letter from you on July, sixteen was it was like it was like a voice of God. It was literally God speaking through you saying you're doing it you're doing it.

Doing exactly what you set out to do, and then I saw those shows I mean I I saw those shows that you that We are doing and have done and that you know I read Why is that? It is bigger than maids bigger than you and that to be able to offer that in such a way that people can see it and that's really what it is. It's an operator. Super Sol Sunday does what I know we all love fixed. My life is gonna. Do it's gonna validate people stories, people who have been seen who, having been and again at the fix my life, but I don't do the fixing the people do to fix. In God does the you know, Marian Williamsons Prayer wheel. Would you have me go yes? What would you have me do? What would you have me say to whom do you think that everything that has happened to you, that you write so beautifully and eloquently?

bowed and I can feel you're the beating of your heart and peaceful, unbroken pieces. Do you think all of that was to bring you to the space? You can aren't you going to be here for the people in a way from large before all things lessens, the God would have me and you know how I write about it and book. I say every Sunday morning- God has a jazz brunch for so yeah coming human and they go to bed branching guy, reads out all of the life assignment of humans that are going to be born on her and the souls pick an assignment meaning they pick a life that they're going to come into body. To manifest and God, when he has a really hard tat, he winked fell virtue and says you know like this is the assignment. I want you to tell you so the soul,

was going to become Rhonda? Harris was sittin there at the Jas brought in God winked at and then he brought up and he told you going to be born a black female in a time when being black or female isn't really you're gonna be born to an alcoholic mother and a womanizing father you gonna, be born in a situation where you may be physically abused got tells us, he tells us yes, I want you to know that you gotta, learn, forgiveness and and and when I got abandoned in and treated badly in home. I didn't remember: I want you to know that you gotta, learn forgiveness and an end when, that abandoned in and treated Sadly, in home I didn't remember that I could always reach out to go, but at some point you know this- those things that God: whispered in your ear, kick in an you get to choose.

Either. I'm gonna do this as hard as it is, or I'm going to do that, I'm going to pick up a needle, I'm going to stay ignorant, I'm going to drink, I'm going to cuss, I'm going to stay angry I'm gonna stay father and debate that commitment, my soul, my life and that's what I do. Is understanding, thus surrender and that that really is all there there needs to be is even see, render people's hunting cement and looks like this. Yes and it looks like and that it does it does. It looks like that. I surrender yeah

Oh good thing is, and I know that was my greatest lesson- surrender. Let me tell you, let me confess yak, I always supported on from day one and everybody was saying to me: you need to go get on. You need to go get on, but I've learned that would God has for me. It is for me we had not yet had our conversational and one day my son said to me:

MA. Am you haven't called on you? You need to call up like you know, like we ve school girls, you need to call over. You need to go to some non own good. You know what they trying to do and I said to him: Damon eyeing call and nobody has dead when it's time they gonna call three days later. No three days later, Amy call me to come to our hard conversation show. I promise you three days later surrender what God has for me. It is for me, and I knew even that conversation we needed to happen, but it wasn't for us. It was for the world show that you can have a break down. You can have

A misunderstanding and they are steps in the process and people, but we had planned it. People thought we talked about it afterwards. We never see. Another word on another word never said, never said another word and then what. And so astonishing. You say that which was good to see that whole show after this, but Maya says that all the time you think he did it for yourself but you did it for every bags I wouldn't be to show the rest of you know why you grandmother did the work for us to have. She picked cod She knows baby she scrub floors. I know it was. I wept my little hot out like a full when I saw it and make an all, but I could feel you spirit. You know I would still you move your grandmother work for them Opera, she did not bring up. She worked for this,

so did mine stop right. The second. Let me explain myself Bob go. I'm over Winfrey and you ve been listening to supersede conversations the pod cast. You can follow super soul on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook if you haven't yet go to apple pod, CAS unsubscribe rate and review of this plant gas join me next week for another supersede conversation. Thank you for listening.

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