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2021-01-20 | 🔗

Job loss, addiction, a break up, the death of a loved one, illness… these are the kinds of struggles that have the potential to break us wide open. Oprah says that before you ask the question Why me, Why me? Realize that nothing is happening out of order. Your life is always speaking to you. When that wake-up call comes, understand that it’s your life trying to push you in another direction… onto the next leg of your journey. Don’t resist. Instead let the truth break you open. No experience is ever wasted. In this episode of Super Soul, Oprah sits down with acclaimed spiritual teachers: Elizabeth Lesser, Gabrielle Bernstein, Father Richard Rohr, Ali McGraw, Sarah Ban Breathnach, Caroline Myss, Lewellyn Vaughn Lee, Reverend Michael Beckwith, Elizabeth Gilbert, Glennon Doyle, Michael Singer, Iyanla Vanzant, Dr. Shefali Tsabary, Pema Chödrön, Cheryl Strayed, Deepak Chopra and Adyashanti to reveal the true meaning of what it means to be broken open and what to do when those life-challenges arise. Interviews with these talented writers, speakers and thought leaders are excerpted from Oprah’s Emmy Award-winning show Super Soul Sunday. You can also find this compilation and other insightful conversations, in Oprah’s best-selling book The Wisdom of Sundays.

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Really personal. My own answer to that question has taken a life to learn I've still, but with my weight for much of my adult life I now realize I didn't I asked myself about it for, It is long lying something I bore and lying to yourself is the worst the deepest part of myself. I think I always knew that. I was using food to repress my feelings in And discomfort or station that could lead to confrontation or region gin or anyone being upset with me would cause as beat eat and after talking to so many people on the upper Winfrey show and super so Sunday, I knew my emotional eating stem from a child but spent getting punished. Expressing my feelings after the weapons as they were called by day, I learned
quickly how to push my emotions down? I understood, even as a six year old and a five year old, afore euro that I feelings be validated. So even though I knew the route of my weight issues, I only recently discovered how to fix them. As a spiritual seeker. I understand that this journey requires you did not only embrace all. That is whole in good in your life, but also to continually examine the long buried wounds, hidden beneath your carefully craft. Surface. This is what I mean when I say turn your wounds into wisdom. It turned out when comes to my issues with wait. I needed to take a bit of my own advice. The freedom I felt in forgiving. Those who hurt me in the past I can be years and many supersede conversations,
stand that another unresolved issue existed under the extra weight. I was carrying. I realize now that, even though I've had the kind of career that brings with it an elm the power. Versions of my childhood abuser continue showed up in my life, the sky. As did other forms. This person might have been wearing a skirt or different pair pants. But the same relationship dynamic, was there I allowed abusers to cry, boundaries, other than confronting them. My childhood history of physical and sexual abuse. Dishes me to be silent in but bearing an uncomfortable situations. I pushed his feelings down with food you after I became known in the world, I found my health in my father's house, with one of the men who molested me, I couldn't fully explain it to myself at the time But there I was in the kitchen making eggs for him.
He told me he liked his eggs over easy, and I thought, oh, my god, I'm standing here King eggs for this man who abuse me- and I don't even know why I'm in the room looking back this was a seminal moment for me I reverted to the silence of my nine year old girl self, who thought that speaking up cause me to be blamed. It is finally click that this type of comply relationship has replayed oh an over and both my personal and professional life. If I were, came upset about something reddened speaking out. I reverse, to the silence of the nine year old girl. Just like I did years later, by making those eggs for a man who had meant. Stood me. I finally realized I was ever going to establish a healthy relationship with my weight key was to confront what were needed. Confrontation, instead,
suppressing and eating it making them. Connection feels like a light bulb, has finally been switched on a whole room full of them. Ah ha, not only broken open. I broken through getting the wait now isn't about meeting goals on the scale or fitting into address. It me allowing myself to tell the truth. And live in truth on every level especially when I'm not happy about something I have claimed my own free. By telling people what I really feel times, even if it means the If a relationship anyone living with layers of shame, suppression or secrecy certain triggers may force you to confront all of those. Wings. You ve kept at arm's length. How many school teachers have shared on super saw how our greatest Epiphanes
feel themselves in times of deep turmoil in despair lose the job addiction, a break up the death of a loved one illness, These are the types of struggles that can just break us wide, open best selling, author of e pray, love and frequent Superbowl Sunday Guess Elizabeth Guild, because these bathroom floor moments, others call them dark nights of the soul before you start looking outside yourself asking. Why me? Why me? Why me on this? then that nothing is happening out of order with you. Your life is always speaking to you just like my weight, was instantly, reminding me of what I thought I had resolved when they Reckoning comes for you. Remember it's really your life trying to push you in another direction, the universe
opening the door to your next great journey, this fisher, no experience you ever had is wasted challenges provide opportunities that force us to sir for a new centre of gravity dont resist resistance, only causes more struggle. You can't win if you're fighting the truth, dead persist in finding and letting it break you open we start with a list, with less you can either breakdown and a broken down and shut down or you can break open, and it's just vision, you make its commitment. I am going through a very hard time, I'm not going to waste this precious experience, this opportunity to become the best me so through
that experience of getting divorce and becoming a single mother, I lost everything. My financial security myself image, my support, my home, I was really a single mom and everything changed from me and in the depth of that loss. I found out who I really was. I began to trust, to I was I began to find a genuine me that could withstand anything and if we fight those times and fight the bird opening, we live sort of half of a life. But when we open into our broken this, that's when we blossom, Next, Gabriele Bernstein, sometimes when we wake up disperse reality- and you know this- you ve seen it everywhere. That way, you know what hit the fan and everything in part Those are the moments when we get to work not the moments when we drink, there's nothin!
when shall we go back to the addiction? Those are the moment when we get those words are showing up to help. You show up. Everything comes up, so it can be healed. Yeah must be healed, so this is willingness pay, mention to the assignments that are coming down and shall for that and now Father Richard Roar, Success is hardly ever your true sell, only your early window dressing, gives you some momentum for the journey, but it's now the real goal. So the real goal is. You do not know that. However, the moment just feels right in good necessary. Yes, It feels really good and is for us but while it doesn't It's you anything everything meanings I'm going to say up to the age of thirty. You need some success. The creator ego struck by its arbitrary number there are thirty. Everything I've learned has been from humiliation, sin failure, rejection, betrayal, yeah, that's it
called Times teacher so much that's when my soul expands. Now I don't like it and I dont Oh until afterwards, to you get rid of it, but then, two days later in the surrendering the accepting the seeing eye real I'm larger and larger. I just love that don't you know its listen to Ali Mcgraw. Didn't you have at sixty five we're talking about aging, gracefully being who you are because I things being spirit is about coming into who you really are. I think they re really meant to be. That's that's what the path looks like four May, when you turn sixty five was that scary moment. Was it a now? It's a moment of reckoning, its light it well. This is real. You know what I did was so funny. I keep a journal only when I travel- and I went to this place in their friend- owns in little corner of of Mexico, and I brought a book and brilliantly colored. Dublin depends
I locked myself in my room and I wrote the that today sixty five thing. And I said stuff: like am I We're gonna have sex again in red or We have to do something about the third Chin hideous electric green. So I couldn't like high behind the kind of truths, you talk about with your best girlfriend, told myself. Some other vanity scares, and I, and I cried and I wrote: I'm gonna gets bored with. It was like today's drinking tea. In writing, my true scary stuff and a lot of other things. Will you scared not to be called pretty anymore? I was scare about all the things that were taught. We should start getting scared about and I wrote and then I went now cannot set, and I felt like it's time. You got that one down, let's go on in live it, very jubilant day, so it was an exorcism absorb. It was a total acts with that. Well.
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Today's episode is supported by copra. Your best, you is waiting inside well being, is journey, let opera and de facto Preppy your guide, For the past seven years, Oprah Antipater produced over three hundred meditations that will last a lifetime. Trance, on every aspect of your life, with a complete twenty one day, meditation collection from the pioneers and well being for many a time he will also get a year of the chopper app putting a. Comprehensive guy too well being in the palm of your hand, unlocked full twenty one day, meditation library now before it goes away forever visit, show we're dot com, slash, opera and start journey today. Sarah Bunbury Sonic. Was it a surprise to you The way the simple abundance was received, not just by my staff and by myself, but the way the well responded to netbook. Yes, you kind of lose your mind. Tried very hard, not to one minute I was
when the carpool and changing the kitty, litter and writing about gratitude and being told that no lifestyle based on our attitude, will is ever going to catch fire and then the next I was asked to do her. Yes, in a word I was, it blew upload. My my lawyer, mind and I would say I've been a person who practise gratitude and what simple abundance did for me is to ritual lies bring into my life on a daily basis the experience of practicing gratitude, but it's really difficult. I think when I just Honey but we're all wealth hits and you were not prepared. Ere it forward, even though everybody whose watching us right now, you know, would love to win the lottery. And everybody says you want it. When it comes, you have to really be ready for we have ready No, I was not, and you know that
such a completely head turning heart. Turning flip on Given what you can handle, so I tried I try my hardest, so you quickly rose to that lifestyle. Yes, yeah did you know what you could afford and couldn't afford at that time is now, I also didn't know, is I took on staff. I also didn't know how much that was all costs so you took on you had nine assistance, has nine assistance, nine assistance, their salaries, health insurance there near our Algeria or more years, every money mistake a woman could have personally and and and business, but their mistake. I did you, make those mistakes. I really thought it would continue. I really thought it would continue, because I was putting out the best that I could do. I did
you will like a rock star with a hit album hit book that I will just continue to make the hits and they had to keep on coming in go on tour and it'll, be here forever right, yeah, so you married again. I did after seven years The man that I had originally met in my twenties, and I thought this is it this is it and I thought it was my love story. You know believed very much in it, and it turned out it wasn't a love story. We were all right for the first couple of. Years, although he told me that I was no good with money, despite the fact that I may undermine made the money. I was no good at. And handling the money. You believed that, because there is a party that would have to the only but you could accept that is as a part of you that believe that that was true.
How could you allow yourself to be but re tuned for money that you had earned the first time it happens. You think that's a little that line seconds, I call those the whispers yes, TAT was always stress, should We talked to be that way. You guys rain and I also wanted disapproval and said, I had not accepted that simple abundance was phenomena for her sense, I thought it was a fluke. Maybe he was right, but then then you'd start to get beaten down so you. The next question is: why do you stay the first two years had been all right- I put it in quotes. You know I thought that it was that bad, because I love the way you say it wasn't that bad. You who wrote simple abundance, you're willing to now live with was tat bad, but I think all of us make compromises
I remember in my twenties being in a relationship with someone who didn't me, and that was my- that better. That was my bed You ever hear me I'm not gonna be hit, but you would allow yourself to be demeaned in other ways. I figured that out in my twenties think that's really the real lesson for everybody, the even though you had all of that trappings of success in you. Look like it didn't you walk like a ten year. The click of Europe must know low blocks on the pavement. Dead. I am successful that stuff oh somewhere inside. You must have not felt that in an authentic pure way. In order to put up with somebody parading you I'll accept that I accept that. But you get batter down, and you become very, very vulnerable.
Are you saying that you stayed because you felt depended upon him at that time? Are you felt were tied to him or didn't recognize by the now by the time that that you know- and it happened around our second anniversary- He'D- really changed its behaviour towards me and at some point I said the wire you treating me so me, I don't know, what's happened and he said because all the monies gone I realized all the monies gone, possibly Beecher. I get possibly have heard that Mr, what disturbed you, the mouse, the fact that all the money was gone or the fact that you didn't matter as much, because all the money was gone, all the fact that I did Matt. Ok, you know it was like why And so you are only here because I had the money yeah, that's it That was the realisation for you that, and then I was ashamed and then the voice
things that he was saying. I started to believe somebody hit you. You know that you're not gonna hit me yeah, that's right, but when it these angry vicious things that are said, and I want to admit that I had made a disastrous mistake, but I just I say this to anybody who is listening to us right now that it all bays always always- and you know this, it's always about you. It's always about you know body can speak to you in a way that demeans your spirit unless you are willing to be demeaned or feel that you deserve that incite. Would you agree with that? Yes, we just cannot. A cabin. Well, that's the same idea as you can only betray yourself. That's right. I was betraying myself on many levels, but then I mean that
story has a happy ending image. I left. Yes, they gave you courage, to get up and leave that my daughter came over. She was worried about me. She surprise me for Christmas and small. What's going on, the second life out of you- is not making you happy and I such she's right and then I said I dont know how to help myself. She said: mom, you help millions of white men while she said I'll help. You help yourself. While I said I don't. I I will begin civil will begin, so you ended up on your sisters, doorstep with your cat and one suitcase and went suitcase and divorce proceedings started worse proceedings. Is an amazing story from simple abundance. Abundance, real abundance,
thorough abundance too, on the doorstep. Was that good before you? Yes, yes, because I never wrote a book. I mean I was there. I was writing for my life. I was not I didn't make it had. This was my life that my life on the page, understanding money. Seeing how money my mistakes with money, how that had influenced off that's so introduced Asian. Have you read the place of serenity for yourself. You say in here that you wrote this book to save yourself right. Are you there of peace in the same way with the authenticity and simple abundance some days or more authentic than others. Some days more financially, serene I loved your chapter. That you did on. Tomorrow is another day Because of this as it is, you can get up you have a chance yellow. A famous line from Scarlet O Hara tomorrow
is another day, and I often take tomorrow's another, nay Scarlet, and we can t, try it again and the real truth is that how. Made mistakes, real He is the universe is way of pointing you in another direction. To say tomorrow is another day skull right yeah. I really felt that's one car pulled the driveway in England, even though I was leaving everything behind didn't know What would happen? I really felt that Heaven went she got it she got, Carolyn Maize, need you to be fully present just fully present and to approve all that is in your life right now just no matter where it is no matter where it is no matter what it is to appreciate fully and what
person does can't pay my bills. I lost my job. Ok, I'm in the depths of disease. You are in the depths of despair, and I still I need to say to you: you need to save me. You had your life focused. Something that didn't belong to you and a path that Well, aren't you? Yes, you did, or you wouldn't be here. You acting on something that did not belong to sell when they didn't belong to. You didn't like eleven yesterday that didn't Belides you, you hung onto a rage that did will want you, wouldn't let it go. You ll. US track of being here, and that is true This is what you do a track of being here. S now or something happened to you, and you said this: it shouldn't have and you never got over Those things happened and you it shouldn't have happened to me. I promise you that happen when someone finally said is,
My life, I don't know how I lost my purpose, knew you didn't. You did not lose your purpose. What you lost, The sense that you thought things. Shouldn't happened to you and they did as if were excluded from the ordinary everyday things of life, and you can't get over it. So to live with no judgment, no expert, and no expectation, no expectation in this sense think about this expectations. Are that sir? the thing should not happen to you that happened to ordinary people. I gotta people polled there. You have been ordinary an absolute contempt, please make me anything, but not ordinary ha. Why? Yes, yes, and because they do that, they feel like they should be protected from ordinary things. That's right! So when something happens like an illness, poverty, any kind of catastrophe. I can't believe this happened to me.
Llewellyn VON Lee, you talk in transformation. The heart about the jury. Need to spirituality. Being for that? It is you talk, as we talked earlier by the crucifixion of the ego, and you. This was very painful, very, very painful, because no one eye my teacher and I was nineteen I was so arrogant to know I meditated for Yes, I don't have a yoga ride, had some experiences in meditation and I really thought I knew something about it. I don't want us to learn humility. You have to learn page you have to learn that it isn't about you, and those are all pain, lessons we don't learn them so easily human beings we wanted to. Easy, but it isn't, because why must be so painful because that has to break for the sushi? The heart has to break open. Most people are so closely oh contracted, it's all about me me me. I see and that's what you mean by the crucifix really ago, then that the hop
x, and then he says I am with those whose hearts are broken, for my sake, so by the crucifixion of the ego you mean the hard has to break. You have to get taken out of the The sense that everything is happening for you, that everything is about. You go that's right, yes, and so then you enter live you're alive. In alignment with the beloved and alignment with God, asking God constantly in a constant state of how can I, sir, but say when you are in alignment and you are in service to what God wants you to do also the most exhilarating the most stimulating? it is really I'm gonna cry was beautiful, it is It was nothing more. You want nothing just to be a service for the rest of your life. You do Michael back with when circumstances in situations are pressed, upon us
The only way we can overcome them is to go within. To actually begin to ask very empowering questions. With the awareness that this universal presence and in law will answer. The question that you ask So if you are in a situation that is pressing on you and you ask which try to emerge in my life. What is my gift to share? What is my purpose? Why am I here on the planet? Not just How can I pay my red? Not just? How can I stop the pain which are at question. Not just even what should I do not even what should I do not? What should I do, but the universal questions you ask, empowering questions the unit to answer these questions in a language and in a way that you can understand, they'll be inner, prompting there'll, be intuitive, hits nudges, fines, symbols, dreams, it'll, come in the language of individual soul and heart that this multi is that when people are in tough situations, they ask
disempowering questions. Will they say what's wrong? Who is to blame yeah? Why me? Yes, those are the disempowering questions, so the universal answer, those too pull on the database of human experience and say, you were born on the wrong side of the tracks. Are you were born on the right side of the tracks or if this happened or that happy to give you a bevy of excuses? But if you can empowering question you get an answer to rise above the mark. So it's all about the question. The sincerity of the question and then the deleting the willingness to to really listen to really be available, that's where the juices and that is available to every human being. Whether in individuals in prison whether individuals imprisoned by circumstance. Imprisoned in their own mind about an event that happened in their pass. It doesn't matter what you ask with sincerity the universal answer. That's the way it operates. Elizabeth Gilbert
Tell us about that moment of despair. Where were you in the bathroom I'm not to make really grow praying? We went to a very conservative protestant church where it really pray. Yet you know so I just started praying. I thought. Oh I've heard of this right when people are in despair, their sobbing and sometimes they pray salami, give that a shot. You know- and I just started speaking during We had no experience how to do it, but I just said to God: I need your help. I dont know what to do. Please me? What to do- and this decision I was struggling With- was do I stay in this marriage to I leave this marriage, and I just kept saying over and over again tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do and I waiting for the sort of Charlton Heston answer stir no none, but that's not how it so you know, and what happened was that all of a sudden, I fell into this pocket of stillness. Unlike anything, I had ever felt my line, this divine quiet envelope of peace, and I heard this voice that was
own voice, but not then in my head and it said very clearly go back to bed this, and that was the answer that God gave me that night, which was you don't need to know tonight on a Tuesday at four o clock in the morning. What to do you don't know, and you won't now until you do now, but in the meanwhile you need to sleep because you need to rest and you need your strength. Go back to bed I'll keep the watch tried again tomorrow tried again tomorrow and every night it can go back to bed we're getting there when you know you'll do reaching Linen Doyle. You say we, especially women, find out very early in life that there is a system to telling the truth that splits us in two weeks. Claim that this is clearly I felt split into My entire life there
is the part of me on the outside that saying the things that I'm supposed to say like I'm, fine, to plague fulfil yeah. Then there's the part on the inside of me. That's like. Scared and lonely and confused alot and what I think that happened as I really think that we are alters tellers. I think we are just made to tell the truth, and so I think that people who it is very hard for the world to hear the truth. From a woman, sheriff, and I want to hear the truth from a man. Yes, but since negative emotions are less acceptable from a woman right we end up sometimes telling our truth in different ways than words dangerous ways like this was the food. For me. The boost I think we tell them truth with something everybody tells the truth or something whether its they say.
Not fine with a credit card or they say I'm not fine with over eating or they say I'm not fine with booze or Cyrus unkindness or whatever it is, which is why powerful when you can integrate this to ourselves and to tell the truth. The story of what's going on in your inside with your words Michael sooner So we should look at our disturbances and see what our disturbances are trying to tell us about ourselves body started to her illness is shut up. A war, one what's wrong is trying to talk to me. That is wrong I'm telling you something's wrong inside of me, you want to get it out, and so you just appreciate life as your teacher and then Ultima just we get it out. How do you get it out? You relax and it will work itself out. That is my experience You re lad, you relax and don't touch it and rules behind it and it will come. Push its own way out is all just as if your heart doesn't want that inside yeah I, and when you
that you will start to feel something open up inside it? I guarantee you, the courts. Air quality. We want. It was or to feel a strength power behind and you're not in front of you were the forms are behind. And you were you been leaning back into the end, it will support you and strengthen you in did you and the rest of stuff will just fall away, Iyanla Levant aunt, therefore primal fears. Number one, the fear of losing someone's love or having your love rejected human mine- just tat even handled by the fear of being powerless or hopeless before you not safe in your being, so the fear of being on, say, the third fear is really the number one human addiction, the number one human addiction is not chocolate its control, so that third fear is the fear, losing control control of yourself
control of others, control of what will happen, how it happened when it will happen, sends the human ego into total meltdown and then the other fear is just not being seen as valuable worthy necessary So anger is really the manifestation of one of those fears that you love is being rejected, or that is going to be taken away. That you're going to be seen as helpless, hopeless, therefore vulnerable hand. You noted Eagle, can't stand for me, ok involved, because vulnerable means we too the eagles. I think you're, a perceived is week- and you must do something to protect yourself as show yourself to be in order not to be vulnerable, you want to maintain control. So you can't control how somebody's doing what they do and there is a fear there and that takes us into an here's. Thing about anger, that I hope everyone can get that you never angry for the reason you think you are ever,
because you're not born with angry. You were not born with it, so something happened and you had that huh plus hopeless, vulnerable, powerless lack of control response, and that made an impression you see the experience made the emperor, The thing happen and then on the sole there's, an impression, an impression and time. Anything that looks like sounds like smells like is related to that. First impression raises those feelings up in new the anger. Data, so you thank you. Angry because Bobo left you now. That is really not the or Jim, the cord, so clever ways to trigger booby. What's a trigger rabbit, Madame trigger death, come in India alive to remind you that this hunt them down me that you need to handle right beneath the anger. There was a well of hers
and we stay at the hangar because it gives us control, because we, afraid to go into her because right the herd is the love. This is what I want you to do. I want you to drop your as to your side out, also want you to disconnect your brain. That means closure, I'm ok, does it take a breath, blew it won't, kill you an invite. The hurt for this invited form. Doctor should folly Silbury with every kind with your child, with every argument with every eye role that your child engages in. You have an opportunity to either step into your ego, control in power and dominance and hierarchy or you have and to look within, ask what me is being triggered? Why am I reacting with this confused helplessness, this desire to see control and the mirror inward ask. What about me is my child, triggering right now.
What about me? What about my childhood? What about my unmothered self is my child, acting backers, that's what your children will do. They bring up all he had our stock. Yes, p, my children. Self improvement means that I'm gonna be different than I am now. So, if The view instead is that there is nothing wrong here. I haven't done anything wrong, but there's thing that are obstructing me from really fully feeling that then, let's just look at those things and no them completely and utterly. Let's know our raves, let's know our fear. Let's no are resentment it too soon. I got it and thy knowing it listening to what you say about yourself and learning. Some of that negative self talk go, you know, then the funds another thing? Is there like? The sun is always shining, but there's clouds the gas directive
Cheryl strayed. What did the trail? Teach you if you had to sum it up acceptance. I really so often had to accept, except the fact of the hour the fact of the mile, the fact of the summer, the facts, life and over and over again I found that if I could do that, everything else sort of gave way, and it led me to the next step. The next thing that was going to be bill itself and I think that that is such a powerful, an important thing. We also we all have heartbreak. We all have difficult things, that's part of life, and that was a really profound thing for me to to accept that and to come to grips with that and the pc t that that journey that sir,
taught me. It gave me that that really grand sense of humility that I think you have to have to keep blocking and ways both literally metaphorical departure, Oprah. What you can do in any situation, any situation, no matter what the challenges you can always go to your stage of being, and how do you go to a state of being you stop, No matter what the challenges you stop, you take a few deep breaths, his smile everywhere in your body. Ok, you observe what is happening in your body in your mind and then you proceed with loving kindness and compassion. Stop S. Stop t. Take three d: brats observe p proceed with kindness
enjoy and love. That's the state of being is the highest form of human intelligence. Audio shanty, we're not taught that difficult taken. Of a profound and meaningful transformative, its effect on us, you know we might be. Taught that in a way, some one might say that, but What do I do what do I do when I'm suffering what I do when I really overwhelmed, how do I work with the minutiae of my experience so that its transformative and not just another, episode of suffering in a lifetime of suffering What what is the answer to that question? What do I do with it? I think the first thing is, you have to be Billy unconditionally open to it and take responsibility. How have I got myself right here
the question is where my willing to see I got that I got here: choice by choice by choice by choice. That's a hard won It's it's it's real hard and it also has other side. Doesn't it not because it? So if you want to blame other people, you want to say what they had done, that if they should that matter, I was so busy. Yes, but if we look at it this way, If somebody else was fully to blame for my currents whatever that is, then that's it done? I have no hope right. They are the real blame. I can't go back and change anything. It's ever happened right right. If that's the way- yes, I'm stuck that's hopeless, but when we realise that, may it certainly Affected how I experienced this moment, there is a link Then there is usually things about it that we don't want to own up to and its both difficult. And it's also once you start
to realize it's very liberating because the keys to you, happiness are no longer in somebody else's pocket from the past there in yours, and that's that's empowering the presidency and that powerful, that's birthright powerful and I'm talking about people I've seen do this that have. Horrendously difficult pass Rawdon airily trauma dramatic, violent pass that can really come to see How am I sustaining that trauma? How my traumatized myself continuing, if not in the sense of bees, to blame for it? You know not that I'm to blame for it, but since the past isn't here now, how is it that I'm keeping alive what's the dynamics. What actually happened?
What is it about us? We think we have to continue to live for, our history, instead of stepping up and out of our history, which is what you were saying that definition of awakening, is when that happens to you literally it lifts up, and out of you, that's right, yeah, that's what I felt at the time, an insight that came to me was at the time course as a human being, I am history, but, as my essence, I realized I have no history. Eternity knows no history. Eternity is the eternal present so when you or I became that we have arisen. Hoddan mom, gutters, dear hadn't eternity knows no really No, because eternity is always right now that any of us can check that statement out. We were completely present with anything
All the sudden at that moment for how long last, there's no yesterday There's no ten years ago does not even a minute ago, it's all gone, All it knows is this instant four Winfrey and you ve been listening to supersede conversations the pod cast. You can follow super soul on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook if you haven't yet go to apple pod, CAS unsubscribe rate and review of this plant gas join me next week for another supersede conversation. Thank you for listening.
Transcript generated on 2021-01-21.