« Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations


2020-09-02 | 🔗

In 2012, Oprah travelled to Rihanna's home on the island of Barbados for a rare, no-holds-barred conversation with the pop star about her career, her family, the passing of her grandmother and the price of fame. In an emotional discussion, Rihanna reveals how she really feels about Chris Brown and her relationship with him. Oprah and Rihanna drive through Rihanna's childhood neighborhood and meet Rihanna's mother, Monica Fenty.

This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Support for this episode comes from Apple news, plus the expert journalism and apple news Plus, is now easier than ever to enjoy. Now you can read and listen to popular magazines and newspapers anytime, anywhere on your Iphone with audio stories. Curate, by top editors here the weeks most thought provoking articles out loud from vanity, fair people, time and more turn in on your run in the car at the park or wherever you go start your free one month, trial of Apple NEWS plus today inside the Apple NEWS at noon. Subscribers only term supply.
Sorry, I'm late everyone, it's our! I mean just getting started. Are you in your closet? Yet the quietest place, not the room so getting closer with your closet. These days that dinosaur accosted mind you, let her containers, doorways custom closets ITALY's here to help with up to twenty five percent of closet systems and free virtual in home, closet design, one shot on the diner, really guys the containers door where space comes from imo. Winfrey welcome to supersede conversations the pod cast. I believe that one of the most valuable gives you can give yourself is time taking time to be more fully present. Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now. I just recently came back from Barbadoes but Rihanna. She was thoughtful ass, a man
thing. How long me you can feel she was very emotional. Do you think Chris Brown is a true love for you? Where does your relationship with stand today. She was vulnerable. You just shocked me from tool. Our own neighborhood in childhood. Home to the surprise She's wanted to give her mom, since she was a little girl. She was one hundred percent herself so. Do you mean you value? So my rhineland- yes, yes, it's gorgeous, ok, looks like you, ve been having quite summer. You look like you, haven't a life oblige ok yeah Rebellion Central Perry. I was also really had a great time floating down the Mediterranean. Yes, and I barely did anything. I stand on the board most of the time I wanted to get out and see everywhere, but it is for goods not to have any
You know from afar, looks like you aren't having. Are you I'm living the life of my dreams and way beyond what I dreamt up? I pass that a long time ago. Can you even wrap your brain around all that it means now artistically to be you. It is never going to be second nature. I don't. I don't think I can ever be normal, so you're, sixteen when you left sixteen Every time I think of one that is a little crazy, I don't know if I would ever be able to do that as a month we shouldn't did. She did. I don't know how sixteen I was not afraid at all.
Did you know what you wanted then and two percent? I only lack because things were working out the way in all in the door Action that I wanted to go, you done that audition, yes, J heard the audition yes and I had an audition with tee. What is the right been like, so you started out eight years ago. What's that rights being that wave of fame been lie, I guess I started off really. I was a clash of bad feeling a little bit. Yes, I feel like I was really Tat did really guard with myself. I felt like there were given me a blueprint and I couldn't get. Who is there? Will you say over the marketing?
people at the level. It was really the machine behind that a brand and that an idea of what they wanted me to be without figuring out who I was and then working with that I felt stifled, because I don't even know who I am and at sixteen and seventeen years nobody goes right, so I was uncomfortable with an annuity on where could rise by bursting out of it. I know that you were here not too long ago for the funeral of your grand Dolly yes, great Grand Dolly. What did she impart to you that you will have forever. She was a legend. She was well rounded, like she taught me. A lot about forgiveness, told me a lot about loving my enemies.
She taught me a lot about. You have been amazed. She taught me a lot of First volley strength as a woman, The one thing she wants me to do is marry someone who loves you more than that. I love them. Is that what you said says yes, because that a woman will always give the always give even more than they need to stop the spins, its maternal and. Even with a husband, she said, it'll, be that way with them as well and will only meet you half way. If they love you a little more. Advice, Grand grand good advice. We know you took some time off and you spent some of her final days with her. What does that mean to you.
I didn't know home in those days. I just didn't know what to do. Trust offered a making, but I didn't know what else to do. I was in a lot of good things in a week. We knew she was sick for a long time, so we were grieving. Her ass. She was alive In the end, a carbon- and we ended up just cancelling a week ten days actually week and have to london- and I ended up- spend time with her in the yard. I didn't like it was the end, but I saw her you just taken every moment because thank you.
Grieving her ass, she was alive solely in the end, a carbon, and we ended up just cancelling a week ten days actually we're gonna have to London, and I ended up in the time of her New York. I didn't like it was the end, but I saw her you just taken every moment because thank you Alas, instead I spent my deafening or through there, and I went to the hospital when she didn't know what I was coming saw a short open. She was just sake I mean she does broke down. We were talking Elles, hugging dismay. It is a party she's as a priority, which means is a party like.
As a not grant grant will party before my good annexes laugh and is kept thinking. You really are my grandma. Well, it was just so cute that she was so excited and and thus Salt lake, she was trying to say her Goin away was party to the celebration of celebration of this ledge lying. Why don't you think it's great? You can cry about it thanks. That's a tribute to her. That's a tribute to a life, well moved into a life. Well, ok! So, let's talk about. I just want to say this.
As for our magazine, namely the sexes, woman alive call you the indisputable champion of carnal pop, and they went on to say that you are the essence of the word that rhymes with puck you're. The essence of that word because I didn't want to be- Do you know what I'm saying? What does that mean too? I don't even know what that means. That's why I'm about to say what does that mean that you are the essence of the F word now? I really do not think about things like that. Ok that's not that's! Not a tidal wave all has not gone. My gosh. I did a great. I had a great achievement here. With this title I mean I don't really even understand, but one day, namely the sexes. Woman alive was at least you felt, like flattering fluttering. Yes, inaccurate of flattery believes I definitely with acceptable photos cute. When did you get to be?
or how did you get to be so comfortable in your own sexual skin? You wear that very well. Thank you. I had to figure out tat I may as well. I have to add to pretend that I was as comfortable. I really was not. You were not We know we know with no or videos are very proud to that. I just like I had to think he had to just go for it in Barbados. We have a very sexual sexiest woman alive Esquire magazine allow on the cover you, the sexiest woman alive was not comfortable now, but you do you have to overcome certain things, and you know I can. I can do that now now again,
parliament and I can try things like a bigger myself. All you no more of this conversation in just a moment today. Episode is supported by better help online counselling. If you think you may be depressed or you're feeling anxious stressed or overwhelmed better help offers online licensed professional councillors, who are trained to listen and help too. With your councillor in a safe and private online environment, or convenience for more ever you're comfortable, better, help. Councillors have expertise in a broad range of areas, such as anxiety, grief, difficulty, sleeping anger, family conflicts and more better I can give you access to help that may not be available in your area is simple. Fill out a questionnaire to help assess your specific needs and get matched with a councillor in under forty eight hours. Easily schedules, secure videophone sessions with her therapist plus exchange, unlimited messages, everything you share as confidential. You can request a new counselor at any time at no additional charge.
Join the one million plus people seeing an experienced better health professional in Back so many people are using better help that their currently recruiting additional councillors and all fifty states that help is an affordable option and our listeners get ten percent off your first month with a discount code, super saw gets already today, I'd better help, dot com slashed super saw better eighty lp dot com, Slash super saw talk to it. There best online and get help. Don't go anywhere or to come after this short break support, for today's episode comes from. Indeed, resilience is the capacity to recover quickly from difficulties and when it comes to hiring it's an essential quality companies are looking for, and potential candidates so whether you're ready to make your next important higher or need some rehiring tips indeed, is here to help. Indeed, dot. Com is the number one job site in the world because indeed gets you the best people fast
like other sites indeed gives you full control and payment flexibility over your hiring you we pay for what you need. You can pause your account at any time and there are no long term contracts plus, indeed provides powerful tools to make your search, that much easier like sponsor jobs, which are shown to be three and a half times more likely to result in higher with so when three percent of online job seekers visiting indeed each month indeed is going to get you the important hire you need just like they have for over three million businesses. Right now, indeed, is offering our listeners a free. Seventy five dollar credit to boost job posts, which means more quality candidates, will see it fast try out, indeed with a free. Seventy five dollar credit at indeed dot com slash super solve this is their best offer available anywhere. Go right now How to indeed dot com, slash, superstar terms and conditions apply, offer valid through September thirtieth. I know you have a very personal relationship with your fan.
The call in the same way as you say they, those wrongs of multitudes of people, have helped you get through difficult times. How two wrongs of people help you get through difficult times. It's amazing how long me you can feel and, like nobody understands and the moment
reach out and put your guard down in your vulnerable somebody always reaches out and and knows that you know that you're not alone. They got to the same thing and I put a lot of importance in that relationship with my aunt s. What do you want them to know? I want them to feel comfortable, knowing that I have laws as well. I want them to know those flaws, because I'm afraid of the pedestal well super duper afraid of the pedestal that comes with fame and and being a celebrity, so keep myself as close to the ground as possible. I wanna be appear to my friends and I,
I want to be above them were think that, because their fans- and not one of them, are not one of us raw people. We have because we all want love my new framework We all want true. This is all looking for. The same thing is very true, so are you comfortable with the title role model? No, because of what society has made, that title is becoming title of faction. That is something that nobody can achieve and I can say that I'll get it right,
every time. I absolutely. I wish your still theory it out for your absolutely absolutely I'm a work in progress really, okay. So, whereas who question somebody ass, we recently through me so might take your second. But maybe who are you. That's a really good question, because you never think about this. Since nobody ass, I should look I'll. Tell you something I love to have fun. I love to be spontaneous. I'm inch rigged by things that are a little adventurous things. Unknown, I'm very black and white when it comes to my business, but I do allow
a grey area in my personal life. I want people to feel good people around me. Whatever that means whenever can do for them. I don't know what you think I am ass. I tell you those things, but those of some things about me. What's the hardest and the loneliest being you mean we all see the glam, we see the centrepiece receive the bears willing. We see the parties visit but what is the hardest and the loneliness side of this fame this time hardest is being lonely, ass, the harnessed the loneliest and Zalm from me as an individual. I have a thing where our people think I'm weaker economies of victims. I don't like to tell
People on some when I'm going to something because its human nature, to always keep that in mind. When you see the person, you can see them two years from now, and you always remember that problem that they went through in his heart ass, he passed them does meet my own ego, my own pride. I want people to look at that aside. Share that not even with my friend sometimes in the early morning, hours of February, two thousand nine Chris Brown and Rihanna left Clive Davis's annual pre Grammy Party, the court. Police reports while driving home the two got into a heated argument which escalated into a vicious and violent attack. Chris And was arrested for assault and plead guilty. He would it'll be sentenced to one hundred eighty days of community service and five years probation. I was thinking. Maybe you are aware.
Of the velocity of feelings that people had when the incident when he was arrested in two thousand, I. I think it's kind of like this. The reason why lotta women choose not to let their family and friends now, if there and abuse relationship, because once you tell your mother, once you tell your friend, that's all they remember. Yes, I think that when the world saw that two thousand nine that's what stuck with so many people absolutely absolutely, but nobody could feel that more than me, I was hurt the most nobody felts, why felt link saw it was
the most because it happened, happened happened to me and they happened to me in front of the world. It was embarrassing, was humiliating. It was all in all. It is not easy. I lost my best friend like everything and new switched switched in a night, and I couldn't control that saw I have to do with that and does not. Now is not easy for me to understand or interpret as and is not easy to interpret and not with the world. What a shame so hard for me to even pay attention to my mind and figuring things help, because now it became a circus, and I felt
active, like I felt like the only person to hit right now is him it was. It was a weird. It was a weird confusing space to be in cuz. I'm angry as I was angry and hurt and betrayed. I just fell He made a mistake because he needed help. Who's gonna help him. Nobody's gonna say he needs help. Everybody's gonna say he's he's a monster with without looking at the source. I was more concerned about him that is really powerful. That's really powerful that in that moment I would never thought that
You just shot me in tat moment. I would have never thought that what you were thinking about is protecting him. So where does your relationship with him stand today? You know, there's you can't believe what you read. Well, what do you want the world to know about your relationship with them? We ve been working on our friendship again and now we're very, very close friends. We built a trust again and ass. They like we love each other and we probably always will now. Anything that we're gonna try to change is not something you could shut off. If you ve ever been in love, are we just going to be using each other again, no he's relationship of his own, I'm single, but we have maintained a very close friendship ever since the restraining order has been dropped, just worked on it little by little and it has not been easy in.
It's not easy, but you know there were rumours that you, Simon Central Pay, did you? Yes, I did. I meant to mutual friends party on a yacht and what happens when you see him it's
is occur because I love him. Does your heart do this? Does not do that thing? My stomach jobs, yes, and they have to maintain this poker face and not let it get to the outer have to maintain and suppressing, but interpreted, understand it and send a that's not going to go away. That is peaceful. You know you have! No, you don't understand those feelings you can. You can make a lot of mistakes do think. Chris Brown is a true love for you absolutely. I think he was the love of my life. He was the first love and I see that he loved me the same way. We were very young and very spontaneous that we rent free run wild. We were falling in love and going on a really rapid pace that we forgot about.
Cells as individuals. We forgot about a personal discipline. We needed something to so completely shocked that often show us what we were missing, what we were taken for granted and if we really care about each other care about their each other's happening. So it's not even about us being together, absolutely love them, so that the main thing for me is that he is at peace. You know I'm not a peace. If he's a little unhappy or he still homey. Aren't you know that that's a care they actually matters that he finds that peace. A lot of people thought that giving you was unforgivable. Have you forgotten her? I have forgiven it took a long time. I was angry long time. I felt this is not my fault. There's not me doing this and laughed
Worry, and in all of those things I was, I was resentful out gradually dark. I was angry and was coming on. My music was coming on my treatment clause coming out my attitude, and I don't like that feeling it was heavy heavy. Would you do to get over here? They come again repaired. My release My dad, I was so angry. I am, and I am angry about luck, things for which are certainly. I couldn't separate him as a husband from him as a father. He was a bad husband. He was about that because you watched him do some bad things, your mom
I witnessed the law as it as a child in my household and went on ass. He was, and you know my family broke up because of your diction, his addiction, but I remember just one daily thinking. Why can't I come to a place where I met somebody in what can only love like love that could get to play some get far enough talk. The guy is not like them in a minute such really like bans like don't even called Donnie. No change talk. Don't even my address
Never seen them again taught them again, you would do the f B. I wanted to know why I wanted to know why, and I would think what is my idea of what suppose happen link and those, because I wasn't haven't relationship my father, it's more like a completely. I was unable to connect with a man and in spite of certain points in the minute I was able to realizing. My father was probably one of the best fathers in the world. He taught me a rebate and is awful as he was so my mom at times it didn't come here to how Writ he was a father, and I had to come to terms with that and I was able to
that gap with him all kinds of emotion started. Looking after that, a kind of things done in making sense. A lot of I thought I headed Chris, and I realized it was. It was love that was tarnished looked like he causes of leaves angry was inflamed. It was ten t and I realise that what it was as I had to free, forgive him because I cared about him still. And the many I let go of that study started living again. You make peace with your father and then you re able to make peace with press. Yes,. You realize the connection between what your father had done and what Chris. Because you know in all Father daughter relationships. It's the first way. Any girl
child learns what it means to be loved by a man. I swear. I got the connection between the two and then I had to go source. Like way more of this episode. After a short break, these episodes supported by tissue buddy, the world scrambling to get their hands an cheeks on toilet paper, but guess what there's something better, there's something healthier! There's something cheaper: introducing the touchy buddy, the modern Biddy attachment that sense of fresh and precise dream of clean water straight to your bottom, leaving your Heine parts immaculate even after the most intense poops touch He attaches to any standard toilet in under ten minutes with everything you need right there in the box, the till she is so simple to hook up you'll be pooping in luxury in no time and get this it's only seventy nine dollars. That's right! You can have that sleek, modern, booty cleaning magic of a day in your bathroom, for only seventy nine dollars. When you see.
Statistics. You reduce your teepee usage of up to eighty percent, less tp Means less money out of your pocket. Every month and also means a cleaner booty, you around make the switch it hello, tissue dot, com, Slash super saw, that's hallowed tissue dot com. Slash super saw. The bottom line is you have moved on from that incident in two thousand nine, where you were abused and he was arrested, even though you know that, Follow, probably both of you for the rest of your life in is that what you want that world and I have moved on, I mean I have to move on and in
As I said it happened to me, so I can't tell people how to feel about it. They are entitled to feel angry because it's not it was a good thing to happen. You have forgiven. I have I have enough my personal and you're forgiving. Him does not mean that you or weak or that you are a victim or that you are that's what I had to realise, because I felt like that. I felt like, if I forgive him, I just become a statistic: I've become this week victim who was heard for me, and I never know so. I just strong. They put up a guard and never pay attention. I just slept under the rug until it sort of picking out and it even was coming out in your songs. Having areas like you, I don't wanna be a victor, my one above so yes it. How my what
rock star one awhile knows that you did a great job faced with the one hundred percent saw your awesome. I felt yourself banking. We happily. Driving went with rod in Barbados. One thing is clear: we are. Loves her Island of Barbados, lad. She I didn't mean to check out her childhood home where she lived until aged sixteen This is how you know who somebody really is. You tell people We act when one of the biggest pop stars in the world comes home,
My God is secure. Hi. How are you I'm glad to see you don't macro Shoddy Ireland. Array by sea also has awesome I love. I love that, even as were driving through the neighbourhood, everybody shouting Robin so Rob Robin the name, this is. We honour and or two younger brothers worry and reside lived with their parents in this bungalow lives are now
somebody's home. We're going, I need less, is never never hear. How long is it? Ok, if we have a look around this, I just want to show her went home that a growing So what is your living room? These windows? We would hang out others when and where is your bedroom man me. Rather my mom said- and here I saw how long cook- and I learned everything and over the kitchen right here right here over this story right here on this on bad. So well, how do you. I was between the ages of five and sixteen when I left.
Did you know this? Was reactors old house every lotta people come it's really some of my name just come to take a picture of a house system, goes much good, that's good! That's nice!. Well thanks for letting us come in. Oh baby. Having its own laws. Banking cipher dropping like that. You, ok I was some fine riding with Israel We on the it's coming here to this beautiful occasion, lovely lovely daughter, a big surprise. They're coming.
Round is about to go her mother, this house, such a pretty area. Do you get up here often? Yes, I want to try to see the pool. So. I was so happy that you came to do this interview with me. Yes, my pleasure, but let me just say, you're lovely daughter, has something she wanted to share with you. Can you not pregnant. What is it. This for you for a very long time. You have been such an amazing mother example. Oh the soldier and you get so walk away with the key to this house
yes, look around, you is hussy, you is life. You have a picture of you hanging the wall, my first gases, we used your grandmother's China as inspiration to decorate the living room in this stunning five bedroom house. She s chairs, so then we can go good daughter Daughter, good do utter, so let me just ask a couple questions: what are you protestant right now? all because she has remained so humble and so close. Her family.
Since these can robin to she's ravishes now Robin demand that you know that's what I'm very very proud of you. Don't parishioner work to find the guy or you not yet They make a toast close to one. Your first trip to my home, now to her home affairs houses. The family man, to confide in having ass to everybody. The family good.
I say goodbye, thank you! Goodwives! I move ruined free and you ve been listening to supersede conversations podcast, you can follow superficial on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook if you haven't yet go to apple podcast, unsubscribe rate and review. This plugins join me next week for another superbowl conversation. Thank you for listening.
Transcript generated on 2020-09-08.