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here camera for your system that simply safe dot com site cricket. Welcome the pod, save America, I'm John. Never I'm sure of it. A tiny bit or on today show President Biden prepares to roll out an ambitious agenda head of his first addressed to a joint session of Congress. The petition, recall in California, gets more attention. Other Caitlin Jenner has declared her candidacy for governor and report. I tried out some truly ridiculous arguments against DC statehood. Then Tommy Huxta Hunter Biden about his, you book beautiful things. But first you don't have to. Watch wednesdays, joint session speech alone we're reviving the group thread yea,

group thread exciting. I missed it I missed it too so come follow along with us in some other folks, from the good media universe, the whole families gonna be here. You tube dot com, slash crooked media. On Wednesday night, nine pm eastern six, P M Pacific come join us it'll be fun. let's get the news on Wednesday evening Joe Biden will mark a hundred days in office with his very first addressed to a joint session of Congress will dig it speech in a second, but I do want to start with the political context. Virtually all the major news organisations released pulls over the weekend that give the press an average job approval of about fifty four percent: with forty. One percent disapproving based clearly mirror image of trumps pulling at this. In his presidency, nearly seventy percent of voters are pleased with this in handling of the pandemic, and majorities approve of both his covert rescue. plan and his infrastructure plan. But

he only gets around thirty percent for his handling of border security and immigration. That's his worst issue and his approval Among republican voters is around ten percent Austin they are to give you guys it chanced to react. Tommy. Anything in these numbers that you found surprising, or at least notable yeah. You know also you. I know we like per ten hundred days, is a big mark, but you'd think that these media outlets would talking space out there pulling since its very expensive and clearly redundant air, but I digress so just a pole dump it just we don't need all the same numbers. So what a couple think jumped out of me wine, Seventy eight percent of Republicans strongly disapprove of how Biden is handling the job that is higher than the equivalent number of Democrats who strongly disapproved of how Trump was doing at this point in its almost double The comparative number for Obama, two thousand nine to me. it just shows how deep in her Damaging the trump election lie really was that I think if

borders or anyone else. They want to ring their hands about polarization. Look no further. that number polarization is really the theme of this whole thing me dad made this point in his newsletter, but by his dine incredible job, paneling covert, he's gotten shots in arms faster and he mailed cash to millions of people. But his approval rating now is just barely over. his election number right, which speaks to how hard it is to move numbers these days. You also see it on the numbers within the economy, so fifth, Eight percent of Americans raided the economy negatively. That unchanged from a previous ABC Paul in September of twenty twenty and talked about the ABC Pool, but what thing here- is Democrat. Its views on the economy went from eighteen percent positive in September forty nine percent positive today, Republicans the economy pause.

Thirdly, I sixty nine percent of Republicans viewed the economy positively in September. In thirty, percent of them view apposite, Billy today, so the number stayed in the same place, but the parties completely flip their views of the economy, based on who in charge, so that just It's too how you know we're we're just being in the direction of whatever team were on. So good NEWS for Biden is that the cover rescue package remains popular, the industry you're spending he wants to do. Is why Thirdly, shockingly popular, even to raise taxes on businesses pay for its or a lot of good things for him. On terms of his agenda and the things he wants to do. The challenges just gonna be the fact that, like that, The country is just supporting. whenever teen there on and that's that's, that's a tough place to be what you're trying to move numbers. I do understand that for a second, because I think, as you said in his den pointed to polarization sort of- is the defining characteristic of politics today. I think it's being

Driven primarily by the different information ecosystems, we all inhabit right, like they did it, Eighty percent of the country approves of Principle Biden handling the pandemic and if the number one issue and voters minds and oddities poles, and yet it's driving the approval rating, necessarily the approve rating. Is it fifty four percent, which is just a couple points above his vote share in the twenty twenty election, which was fifty one percent? and also, even when you go to questions of ideology, more voters, still think that he's somewhere in the middle of rights that they forty two percent say he's moderately NBC Paul forty eight don't say his views are just about right in the Washington Post Paul. So it's not you got a bunch of voters that they're saying they don't like, because he's because of his ideology is too liberal or too conservative. Whatever it's it's partisanship, it's pure partisanship, driving these numbers, which eggs. You realize that Biden is playing on a very narrow, narrow field between now and twenty only two and now in twenty twenty four and there

many mines that he can convince or demo that's, can convince either way, no matter what they do. Good or bad luck what did you think? What did you think? I got any see it differently, then So I'm not disagreeing with what you're. striving when you call it polarization, but it's really not polar. Zation, I think what we are seeing is like a Fox news tax, the grace Poole He that a democratic president we get from Republicans republican President would get from Democrats just didn't happen even rock Obama in two thousand nine had higher approval rating numbers. Amongst Republicans, the beginning of its term, and I think what you saw over the course of the bomb administration over eight years. the rise of this Fox news ecosystem, which had always been there, obviously, with right wing talk and rightly radio, but like the rise of fate, but the rise of these closed information ecosystems. What you see is republican support

Brok Obama starts dropping from where it was low, thirty's high twenties, it starts to drop and drop and drop, and then it it crater stays around ten fifteen, whatever so low number and never comes back up into debt. never comes back up and Joe Biden has not been afforded the same grace period because the information ecosystems now so close. It there's no space for that to happen and, like you know, His approval, ready on independence, is in the sixties. Appropriating among Democrats is in the nineties his approval ready among people. it is very, very low and people will say. Oh like this is a mirror image of what happened under Trump by Independence under Trump stayed relatively low. They move between, like you, know the thirties and the forties. Well, it's a marriage. I mean it's like Trump's different, then sort of trumpets outside, though what you'd expect from typical polarization, because trumps appropriating rating shit at this point right, but that's like we use it. its purely because of independence? The Democrats and

publicans for each successive democratic and republican president you're seeing even more Democrats or approving of the democratic president and even more Republicans or approving of the republican president as we go onto successive president's with the in depth it's basically being the only group that sort of swings back and forth Rivah. What's it will it's interesting as in the numbers? Is the Democrats? Any independent move a little bit more together because their living more in reality than this, Corn, diverse group of Republican, and so when we call it polarization really, it is this. You know thirty two forty percent of the electorate that is now fully isolated itself and they will at zero for a Democrat and they will be in the nineties for Republican, and we just have to accept the, and I see I see some did say: oh you know Joe binds approval rating may be above fifty, but it's the lowest for any new president, but that's the tax stats like the Fox NEWS tax at their get that we're gonna have to accept and the like for it is behaving like election day is tomorrow the entire.

Our time you know polarization spikes, poles, people move apart before presidential elections now that's just sticky- and that's continue right. I didn't Let me add a few great this, but like it to me, this validates bite strategy earliest. It explains by strategy so far, which is like do a lot of big Things pass a lot of your policies, which are popular without police, sizing them or at least to the extent that you can write like he's always talking about how his plans will help republicans- and you know the republican support his plans- to try to stay out of these cultural wars to the extent that he can, while still standing up for progressive values like it does seem the buying people understand that, with their with there, liberating rating among Republicans as low as it is, and they're not really gonna fix that they can afford to piss off Their independence or democratic- yeah me they in the CBS Ball they asked like. Do you want to see congressional republicans, try to compromise and find common ground by the wallet, but the seventy

Anna voters want to see the parties find common ground When then, you asked the same voters in this, you baseball and water. Republicans in Congress dine sixty percent of them said they oppose Joe Biden as much as possible, whereas fifty eight percent of them said Joe Biden is trying to compromise. So I think that absence, lately validates Leyden strategy, despite all the hand, wringing about like how does Joe Biden defined Bi partisanship, he's making the shit out of Republicans in Congress, when it comes to the exact metrics, I think you are ultimately like. I think we make too much of these by parties ship numbers in these pause? I sure people want to see Washington get along, and you now plain I but in reality I think, built they care much more. The end of the day about this policy things talking about the covert relief bill, Do you know tone I think I d like you can look back, ok, well, they deserve.

To pass the covert relief bill without a single republican vote. How is that affected? the approval rating right of the colored really felt it. Have they learn it? Does european ones have passed its past No, it's interesting. Is you see that the vigorous in areas that the the infrastructure plan, while popular, is less popular than the covert rescue plan part of that is its not because o Joe Biden has gone after Republicans on the infrastructure planets enough people no. What's in it, and also, I think that, with the american Rescue plan, he had the Czechs and people can understand they were gonna, get to check in the mail part of this fucking thing. Why drives me nuts that were to keep taking our infrastructure in how to define everything? Is infrastructure, as opposed to just jobs, is people into What's in this plan, for that, yeah, like the vital strategy, is very simple like let's do things people's lives better, that they can see is gonna, make their lives better and

polarization as it is we're going to go into two thousand and twenty two, knowing that we could be fucked in the midterms just because of the way polarisation is, but from now until then we're going to get everything done, that we possibly can to improve people's lives. To give us the give the most fighting chance. Possible, in the mid term, review that you see on the infrastructure. The industry proposal that too and people support, making major changes to get republican votes. But it's like well. If there's no understanding of what republican changes would be versus democratic changes. What actually are the ideological devise an issue, of course, yeah sure major changes that whatever yoga major changes to our voting about sounds good to me play acting. It is let's go about Wednesday night the president's first speech to Congress isn't technically a state of the union. It's just For two, as an addressed to a joint session, so there's that Biden is delivering his later than most President's and to a smaller in person audience because of covert protocols. Only two hundred people will be in attendance. Of Congress, can't bring guests, no cabinet members. Only chief judge

just Roberts from the Supreme Court and only the chairman of the joint cheese from the military, it will also mark the first time the two women calmly Harrison Nancy Policy have ever sat behind the president on the day s love it, Wanna talk about what you and I endured. While writing these monstrous peaches and what the goal is supposed to be. What we like every administration, starts out with a plan to deliver a shorter, tighter message, driven non laundry list version of this speech and then that plan it's the reality of all the different pieces of the agenda that need to be included and that they like these data, you near the joint dress, like becomes a deadline, everybody loves a deadline and it becomes a kind of organizing moment through which a bunch of different fights play out, but, of course, that internet, seen arguments over policy agenda items doesn't tend to read down to like excuse is. Writing.

Hit until now to the best rhetoric. It's tough We did you know, that's why you you try to keep it as short as possible. You tried inject moments of levity, which thank God, you were there for a long time in the White House in you helped with this. I think we have a clip of one of your Basically, this is this is none the less we got rid of one rule from forty years ago that for some dairy farmers to spend ten thousand dollars a year, proving that they could contain a spill because as milk was somehow classified as an oil. where the rule I bet. I guess it was worth crying over spilt milk, Confident a farmer can contain a milk spill. a federal agency looking over his shoulder now, let's be clear here, that was your joke.

Your job, but my joke, which, which was, I think, was deemed words you Eddie Two edgy for this data union. It wasn't it was to a different, worse joke, but my likewise I don't see why we're making such a big deal out of a problem that can be solved with areas that was my yeah you can see. I am that really would have room in a clean things up if we could just added that alert I just wish you know that was that was my jacket was fucking terrible. I will blame everyone else and everyone else in the federal government for seeing the speech and not one person flag that no one prison flight that awful joke, including Brac Obama. It worked where it was fine line. I thought I was going. I thought I was gonna quit the next day. Would it would tell me what you think that the small in person, audience and lack of guests does to the speech and also apparently, as others in punch both either day a bunch of Republicans in a house in the Senate have already said: they're not going to attend yeah so I mean I guess, if Congress the effect?

bring gas. That means that negates can't bring another holiday. Denying journalist, which is a thing that actually happened? totally get these covered protocols mean, especially if there are vaccinated, but whatever those you watch the Oscars. Last night probably got a decent dry run of how it might look and feel different, which is just smaller does little less energy in the crowd. You know, just like the room feels bigger. I wonder. Biden can bring ass. Because often the White Ass has a gaseous it's in there. In the box of the first lady and those individuals bring some of the biggest emotional moments in these speeches right, you can imagine Biden bring. A veteran had served multiple tours. Ghana sand to thank him or her offer their services in highlight that the war is ending in those red usually resident in sort of like a clip for the news again like if you Republicans no show. I think that it also. these not that big deal, but I do think that will add to bide in case that he is being more by partisan in a reasonable and then

Republicans just are like petulant brats, who know show that joint session, and that seems very silly me. I would note, in this speech, to try to fact that I would zoo in a very nice way, but if there's a bunch of them doesn't count be like and look I'm trying hardest to work. With Republicans on all these priorities, some of them didn't even want to show up tonight. I hope that can change sorry negative twist, another twist, the knife. Look, I don't know if you remember, but the in the Last year we did this Obama. Floated. You know it I think, one of the most annoying things about the state of the union is that, like one side gets up and collapse and the other do and then there's everyone's interact with applause, and maybe we should take Congress in advance. We should talk to Nancy and Harry and say you know, don't have stand up and no one should clap, and so it could just be like a shorter speech. That's like more emotional think immediately like accurate and gives areas like yeah. That's not a good idea, but when I think that here, because of their year where they were like, let's not sit, let's not

sit on opposite sides of the Isle. Let's each go with a rebellion, everyone, let everyone every Democrat Republican, like opposite members party the services like some fuckin performative theater, but by person bullshit. That was terrible, but I like, I think that the lack of people in their the fact he's not can be as much energy and applause speaks to the need to have an even shorter speeches. Usual, that's more thematic and less, and I include less pleasant which, by the way Biden has done this before he's practice. This, because his whole campaign, he was robbed, huge crowds that you should get during the presidential campaign. We give the convention speeches the way, give the election night speech, so he sort of practised in there. But I do wonder if it's gonna be shorter because of that. I think it could be more effective. That way, I do also think will first of all what I would- I hope is happening, as Republicans refused to go. Because he's saying ok, there was, be more applauding standing Democrats in this ass, yet I do think

it can be a shorter speech. It's also It is every time you see a space than usual, usually filled that spread out in remind everyone of the gravity of the moment and why he was elected and the task before him it. I think it is yeah I masks to outline age. Nonaligned Nancy will have mass on, I'm sure began its it's. It's SAM. It's, I think the last part of hope they were moving out of this pandemic, and if we are, this will be one of the last major events in which his the innovative defined by the reality, endemic and that will be infused in the speech and I think, only adds to the credibility he has gained on this issue. As somebody largely respected, even by a lot of Republicans for his leadership uncovered. I do think in terms of what he needs to achieve. I would spend less time on what we ve already achieved with the pandemic, like people understand that his prey,

reading is very high on that, and you know what to do. I think the american Rescue plan was able to pass. easily. Is they sold bill really well, including what with what was in that bill really well, and everyone understood that, and I don't people know that about you that the american jobs Planet, american families plan- and I would spend a lot of time, just really making sure that every single person at home now what they were going to get out of these bills and how their life was going to change. That would be my main goal. I don't know if you guys think there's anything else they should be. You should be trying to do I like the? U S arm, still lobbying fur for short speeches and less work from retirement. I respect that very much that the other videos or time about tone I mean like this- is my personal. Take based on no data, now focus groups like literally what I want to hear. I think over the last year plus, like isn't, is an amazing job. Consoling the nation through covert, read that the cliche up a bill Clinton was. He felt your pain

the reality we Joe Biden is that he has endured more pain and all this genuine heartbreak and in more than one should have to endure in what's admiral bout him as a human being seized the way you choose, no bad into empathy for others, but I would really like that serve what level of saying I would love to see the balanced heavily on the side of optimism here, and I don't think so. Be blind optimism or like lofty He rhetoric about how we ve always Dino succeeded, but you like it be contingent optimism, meaning you- can say we ve gotten to undermine shots and arms. We pass a covert relief bell. People could stay in their homes because we set them checks will defer mortgage payments. I am so optimistic about the future of this country and the economy, but we, to pass this infrastructure bill to get to that either better place re like, but I just don't want to see

wallowing in how awful things have been, because I think people are pretty well aware of how shitty yeah last year and a half has been at this point, and I think These I am just desperate, for whatever like reality, the new are getting back to like a sort of new reality. I just could not Furthermore, I may I was feeling it watching the beginning of the Oscars last night right, it's like you, know, ratings for Is it a ring for all these workers have been weighed down? And you know my own completely untested theory is part of it. Is everyone has suffered this past year? many people, far more than others. People have grieved and everyone's dealing with that in their own lives and when you're too tuning into some public of antlike. There is a to how much I think we all want to be reminded of that all the time right, yes, appropriate to have a moment of silence for those we ve lost and to talk about the people who live in the grief were going through this absolutely moment for that,

but then, like. You really do have to lift people up at some point, because it is it's just tough to watch and it's up to keep reminding yourself over and over. I also. You did there's this: some of the pulling around use. Approval of Biden has like started this conversation about Logistic, the transformative, nature and surprisingly, transformative nature of these first one hundred days and a lot of people of all. So noted this that that maybe Joe Biden, NHS one of his superpowers is, he makes repositioning take seem like a moderate consensus view. It's just it. It is infused as part of its history. Its part of his age as part of his fact that he's an old white guy, but this is, So an opportunity, I think you like to moderate, an expansive progressive definition of politics like to make an argument for that the scope of what he's doing in a large way, ass taught by the policies talk about what they do but like now that I think

has the kind of now full backing of dammit. at and a lot of respect from progress. As we move into the next phase of training in infrastructure, on trying to get this family planned on, like I think it's an opera you make a larger case like this? Is my philosophy? This is my ideology, and claim like for this new democratic consensus in front? biggest audience will have for a very long time. I'm sure he'll do that when he almost certainly will talk about his american jobs plan in his new american families plan, which reportedly calls for as much as one point eight trillion dollars in spending on national child care. Universal pre k to wishes Community college pay Family medical leave bigger, will correct subsidies in a four year extension of the child tax credit that would cut child poverty in half by and will also reportedly financed the plan by proposing higher taxes on the wealthy spaces, Finally, a higher capital gains tax and a higher top marginal income tax rate. This sound like a lot of great stuff in one bill, but just to give you an idea of how challenging this will be forbidden. He already gotta

from seventeen democratic senators asking him to add healthcare reform to the american families plan, including expansion of Medicaid lowering the eligibility age for Medicare. Go shading, lower drug prices, love at what you think pros and cons are adding all that to the american families plant, like should Biden, add healthcare, and why do you think he wouldn't it's not that the health care ballots, the it's a different set of policies like I I I do those things too, but there's are uniting side. talked about this, the rigour and that that this bill isn't that isn't the sum total of all the administrations priorities. If the, if the view is should be doing these healthcare pieces first, like that. There is an urgent need for that, but on the other hand, at the same time, you have Joe Mansion saying he's not ready to do all kinds of things to paper. This he's not sure about the expands, like there abounds on both sides of this issue. I get pushing to make him expansive and turning them into a kind of more omnibus healthcare bill to, but like getting this giant,

massive change to the way in which we do family leave medical leave childcare. It's a big giant proposal and like we can make it even bigger, but like I don't know it just seems like likewise it does. Everything is like it is, is tough to justify. It is tough because I think you know the genocide, it's not the end of his agenda, but sort of is the last train leaving the station before I mean right. We only have two more reconciliation bells. We have the american jobs plan, there's gotta go in one, and then you We have the american families plan go in the other and then That's all. She wrote unless again, where, like hoping for, though the miracle of getting rid of the filibuster for just any old legislation, but they're not gonna, be able to probably do another budget bill there might be one more than you getting right before the mid term, but it's hard to do it in a mid term year re. You could do it at the beginning. You could look. I dont totally understand why the beginning of

when twenty two is a period of time or Democrats feel like they can't legislate yeah. Looking at the american families plan, I think that the american families plan reconciliation bill might be stealing it from the beginning of twenty twenty. Two: that's why? How you get an extra? When will we got one product? One, the parliament, the parliamentarians like you, can do any either we're on we're. Unlimited, we get all the reconciliation bills, we want changes every. It's really tough and I think that looked abiden people are thinking Bay problem. you know, learned another lesson from from the Obama administration as they learn many like. Do we really want to dive into a big healthcare fight on top of everything else, if we're going to shore up and expand the affordable care act with all these extra subsidies, that said, expansion eradicate, lowering, yellow, really age for Medicare. In negotiating Lord bread prices. Incredible. incredibly popular things. Super important would change alot of lives, but that's not to say that, of course, all the things are going to do in the american families plan would also change lies. I mean this is some some pretty big stuff,

universal prepay tuition, free community college, the child tax care credit alone. Basically, social security for kids, making a permanent would be a huge, huge legacy item so it's tough, its relative, so Tommy Republicans our freaking out about the higher taxes on the wealthy, of course, which access referred to as I popping are. These tax hikes. I popping hush Hush Biden handled the becoming tax attack on this. I think that you should lead into this fight. So the fact it Biden wants pay for this infrastructure plan by increasing tax, his on businesses, is actually more popular than the plan itself, and so what we're talking about here is Trump cut their corporate tax rate from thirty five percent to twenty percent Biden is saying: what's raise the corporate tax rate backup twenty eight percent? I don't think anyone thinks this guy's going to that. I don't think that's. I popping voters are also broadly supportive of increasing taxes on the very wealthy, and so what Biden wants to do? Is

turn the top marginal income tax rate of thirty nine point: six percent. Where was before the Trump tax caught, and then he wants to fix part of the text. That is just clearly unfair. That says money you make from investments will be acts at a lower rate than money earned from work It's a millionaire who sells a stock that they vote for more than a year, pays it twenty and federal rate. That's not so, and will basically make that tax are the same as what that person would pan income and they'll get rid of the loopholes that allow rich people save tons of money on taxes. When die and they pass on assets like art, work or like stocks to there it's like, I think the whole thing is is pretty logical Someone who, just passively owns and asset shouldn't pay less tax on income derived from that thing, Dan DE vigil visit, construction, worker or doktor or some other job, and then like to that. I popping description. I mean that hot marginal tax rates were

in these seventy percent bracket and seventy they were in the there is high. Ninety four percent right after world war, two, like those are I hopping numbers. I think what most people think is that they really I popping up it's a thing about: U S! its policy and in what it is allowed to happen in this country, is the economic. inequality saw. It's funny, like Republicans, you can tell their dislike desperate, to call and you know, sir of attacks and spend liberal. But when you look at the Democrats, tax cuts, including the March stimulus fanatics, is to drive down. Tax rates are low and middle income people so much so this year that earning less than seventy. Five thousand dollars on average will owe nothing in federal income taxes. That's where we want to be as a party cutting taxes for we'll make it less than seventy five grand raising taxes on billionaires were passing along our work to their kids to fill again no brainer. I would have a huge

ocean of the speech Wednesday night taking on this tax issue? I be running adds about it. I would be goading Republicans outta this fight. It is the most Popular issue that we could fight on You said Tom it through the corporate tax increases more popular than the infrastructure plan and the tax increase on wealthy individuals and capital gains taxes is even more popular. The corporate tax increase, because you know, brazen sale if you raise taxes on us, will pass them on to consumers and sometimes people by that's if, like that, but raising on wealthy individuals on the top one percent or in the case of the capital gains like the top point. Four percent is like a seventy percent issue, Donald Duck, tromp, was least popular times in his presidency two times of all the bad should he did the insurrection, the caging children, everything the two times it was the least popular was when you try to. As that tax cuts for the rich and region hey People's health care way, that's when he was less popular and so like. If

publicans do not want to have a fight of the least the smart Republicans do not want to have a fight about taxes and Biden should take it to them. single day from now until the midterms, I wonder, I assume the reason he starting with the cap. you, re ultimately include like the Obama surcharge above the top marginal rate is cause, he's actually negotiate with Democrats from from from like wealthier states like that where this negotiation will largely take place. Yeah me like the republican position is Oh taxes on inheritance, no tax on wealth, lower tax and corporations and the ability- for families to perpetually pass on assets will never paying. Taxes as those assets gain in value like it's a workers party. Now it's a workers party like that, is like the republican position, that the official position is war. That is oligarchy like that's what that does, that creates a giant pool of basically permanent

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any day now, when election officials, finnish verifying the signatures Jenner, is one of several Republicans running, including John Coxe, who lost and use them by almost twenty four points in twenty eight ten and a bunch of other goobers and potentially run including trumped The troll Rick Grenelle in adult film actress Mary carry who ran against Great Davis in the two thousand and three recall I first time How commoner recall actions? How do they work? and why would a recall, be potentially more challenging for Newsome than just a regular election? So one thing they voted. No is that this recall could cost state up to four hundred million dollars and then but Gavin is of, but given is up in twenty joined to France, or we might drop four hundred million dollars to recall a guy you early, that is so stupid, also use it like. You can recall apart, four, basically anything in California, it's not like impeachment were there. Somebody needs to reach. You basically need to get signatures from twelve percent of the voters who voted in the last election or about one point: five million people how foreign is a huge state

Probably recall Gavin Newsome, with I just Q and non believers and anti vaccines, which is basically what's happening as John noted, its especially easy this year, because the order users got this extra hundred twenty days to collect signatures, so It's likely that we will go forward recall in voters will ultimately be asked to vote on two things: one should Gavin Newsome be recalled and two, if he's recalled, who should replace him now The whole fight is over part wine. But the thing you know about question too about like who gets on the ballot, is its again absurdly easy to get on a daily basis to pay like four grand into that Three there were huh, in thirty five candidates on the ballot, and you could see exponentially bought more this time and so, like The reason this is such a bad and dumb process is you just have to win the plurality, so you could see a Rick or now or Caitlin Jenner win with. Like fifteen percent of the vote, so the Good NEWS for gathering is

it seems very unlikely that this will work, that you have not money is pouring in from billionaires in and in like you national powers go parties but you're going, Davis was recalled in two thousand three. great Avis was way less popular and the Democrats registration advantage in this state. today is triple what it was then, so. The way the time and he's really annoying for Gavin in his folks. But we do need to pay attention because, like you out there, another variant. There could be a bad fire season like you, never know what could happen in People behind this effort are like some dark dark, weird crazy people like the guy, leading the recall effort you file. The petition is a retired cop who posted on Facebook her chip illegal aliens. It works just ask animal control, like that's the kind of the caliber person that is behind, and so it is worth watching

Girls are circuses, yeah, now a circus yet likes a great avis. Much less popular state was less democratic and it got to fifty five percent. On the first question of, do you want to recall, and even though their autonomy on about the weather they're about like forty eight percent, so it like a girl, electrons, worse error, because he was somebody would actually it was library obviously was incredibly well known. Also had some involvement in politics, man, you know This was to be a crank thing and independent happened: I will say it, they do have the votes and it seems like they do. For the recall, this will be the most expensive french laundry visits expensive, rather on meal and like human fucking history, because they did like. It turned some that was about right wing politics, bigs visa, real estate donors who have found this shit every time into, like a larger question about his pandemic response, which bummer.

just to underline some of the facts? Tommy was given us, so you couple pole so far, basically recall. Do you want? recalled. Newsome is pulling at around forty percent in the last couple poles recently his approval, is currently fifty two percent. By contrast, Great Davis approval ratings when he was recalled in two dozen three, the only other governor to ever be recalled in California history. He was in the load amid twenties afflicting the twenties of course, he was recalled. So Newsome is still you know it's down from nuisance approval rating earlier in the pandemic and earlier in his turn in his term when he was up at five thousand seven hundred and sixty, but he still at forty two and is Tommy pointed out on the registration Democrat, for forty six percent of the registered voters versus just twenty four percent. For Republicans, that's just that this shit of the state. The shape of the electric just makes it really really were also sitting by the way right now, with the lowest per capita covert infection rate of anything.

in the continental. U S right now, I think only Hawaii is doing better than yellow look. Look governing any state during covered was really hard like ice. We still have a handle on why in and when these waves came back. So I some simply there, like, I do think we were particularly pest about reopening, little too early and then some of the questions around schools by do that by the time this vote actually occurs like that should all be solves, but yet It's like the thing to underscore like twelve percent, in its signatures from twelve percent of equivalent of the people who voted last election, that just means that, like everyone governor could be recalled at any time because as always like twelve percent, of your opponents base that hates you enough to decide. When these signatures- and if you have some billionaire asking a direct mail campaigner or an effort to organise it is very easy to do, and then the judge gives them another hundred twenty days me this very so it's a mess. Situation, but boy these. for new rules are stupid,.

There's still bad they're so stupid. What are we doing here? We spent he's got he's up worthy they're fucking year. What are we it's ridiculous, ridiculous? That's so there stupid we are living with them. Unfortunately, we cannot get rid of the rules were facing this. What if you're love if you're, Gavin Newsome and you see Kalen Jenner, enter the race? Are you happy? Are you not happy like? What's it what's your strategy, if you're Gavin Museum in this in this recall action, which he will likely face I don't think anybody happy. Aren't they happy, but any of this, I will say, like I do see a bunch of different people kind of like casting out for what to say around Caitlin Jenner, like I saw Karen Bass, talking about the fact that she did think Republicans would get behind a trans candidate. I do think like The fact that Caitlin Jenner is a former trumps supporter who is now meeting with Trump

Trump campaign manager, former campaign manner, Brad per scale, and that here strategy, seems to be entirely rooted in like xenophobia. And the same kind of trump politics death penalty attacking the d is blaming Gavin New Sum for the decisions of separately elected district attorney's, I think, is like where I would be. focused on like this is a republican backs. Tromp money backs real estate in speck efforts and I would be attacking the whole, Bert and then Caitlin Jenner, as the face of it for being a right wing trump back. Like I see people concave agenda, the Republic, Canada, I would think about calling the trunk candidate, given how much trump interests is now behind her, and I would be fully hang on that Tommy what Think what it already think about Caitlin generous entrance of the race, and how would you haven't you run against her eyes? Looked Kalen Jenner jumped the race and immediately diminished

why shouldn't be running and does know anything about politics like leverage is mentioned, she tat Governor Newsome for decisions made by the San Francisco district attorney, but in a foreign yeah, we vote for our DA's Gavin, doesn't appoint that rights are like come on. Get your shit together, I would like that the real the campaign on this first question of, should Gavin Newsome be recalled in if I'm his team, I'm gonna talk about all the things I did well, I'm gonna keep serve like doing the job. Well, get shots at arms, get schools or open, relic, show competence and then just say the way. This works is, if you vote to recall me, there's a serious chance that you're gonna get some hard core mogg up her. and whether its Caitlin, Jenner or Rick Ranal, one of them like unhinged assholes to ever. You come out of republican politics, so, like yeah, that's It could be like that. The downside risks recalling Gavin Newsome is so high, given how much these votes gets split in the fact that you can win

the plurality that, like your you shouldn't brisket, be my message yeah, I think you're right. I did exactly right. It's it's it's he gave a new some verses trompe in chaos, because if it, if, if, if you ve, in the end, the recall happens. Any any one of these fucking nutcases could end up being your governor and by the way, like years, our state Lois covert infection rates. All of the public health restrictions will be lifted on June. Fifteen needs to make sure that all kids are back in school by the fall as well, because, as you know, in any other issues, but of all those issues are solved right like if the pandemic sort of starts faded, in people's minds or at least some of the public health restrictions. Part of the pandemic and people are vaccine. Things are going well in the states got surplus budget. Now two, then he can tell the job here and say it's either me or chaos and a bunch of magna people nets that so, but it's not it's not great.

a great. There are going to deal with the whole that Kalen Jenner Show for the next. How many, I think of you asked cat like if you talk to gabions people off the record, This is very annoying. They feel like there. Well positioned to beat question one which is, should we be recalled, but don't know you don't know like we not saw pandemic coming a little over a year ago. Re like bad things can happen in the stated here. blamed for it in so there too We had very seriously. They brought a new staff to bring an eye, but it just at this time is, like so close to ungovernable the you throw a Fuckin recall election on top of that in its just its absurd as carefully burden. And then there is the question of whether or not you wants some kind of democratic stocking horse down the candidates and like I like it gonna, be enough.

We gave a nuisance vision that you don't want that aid on introduce the yeah? Oh they no longer. They don't want that at all. You dont want to eat, but by one of the lessons from two thousand three, as you don't want that to all of a sudden. You wish you really rally behind one person. Yeah, oh three: their crews boost the Monti on on the ticket and just shorts Nigger mopped up so yet I dont see like someone look celebrity in name. Ideas is everything we ve learned that the hard way recently, but I dont know if Caitlin Generous the one to do it like what's a nigger was certainly next level in terms of fame, but yet this distinction. got a million different ways. Yet that's why Gavin is vacuuming up endorsements as fast as we possibly can from Democrats that no one else runs on the other side. Kalen Jenner has not received many endorsements, including not a single endorsement. From not a single word spoken from a car dashi, an aura Jenner, Chloe candle court me. stop none of them None of them have interprets the Philippines indoor determined. Yet it's something it is

it is a sad state that what we want to say, is this is, of course ridiculous and there's nothing to worry about We start we all of us that we are just waiting some time ago. We all disdain for the driver. If you want to help stop the the recall efforts, there is a website. Stop the Republican, recall, dot com. You can find ways to volunteer and donate to make sure this this nightmare doesn't happen. One more thing to mention before we get to Tommy's interview with Hunter Biden. Pass legislation on Thursday that would make the district of Columbia. The fifty first state grants two senators and appropriate representation in the house. Puzzle is now in front of the Senate, and Republicans are often quite a few reasons, but they're not happy with it and love it. I believe you ve prepared a game for the UK, in the District of Columbia, the museums or free, but the people are not. The house is now past a bill to make Deasey the nations fifty first state which We called Washington Douglas Commonwealth named after, of course, Douglas

half the bill had citizens. In other words, Democrats will either change set of rules and pass the bill with fifty votes. Are Joe Mansion leaves the powers of kill grave to find ten Republicans and support the addition of one beautiful New started, the stars and Stripes Republicans. scrambling to justify their opposition to granting full and equal citizenship to one of them. diverse regions of the country without saying that they just don't want to create two democratic senators in perpetuity with a dash of its pretty blind Natchez bugs us this is lead, some pretty ornate justifications for opposing statehood. So, let's John and Atomic until the real quotes from the fake ones in a game were calling DC is a state of, Are you ready, John Tommy, so ready

Some of these are real. Some of them are fake. Here we go, there's no, I mean, obviously there all fake, but some of them are really said. There is no question that Deasey residents already impact the national debate for the members here today. How many of you saw Dc Statehood yard signs, are bumper stickers or banners on your way to the hearing today I certainly did where else in the nation could such a simple action reach. So many members of Congress, Tommy www real, that's real that Zack Smith from there. This foundation. Next quote: look if you're, not racking you're, not estate, it's as simple as that, but I am here today to talk about the border crisis John Shit real No, it's bake. I made a good. That's good was the twisted land, the twisted the end gave it its em. Some, the rang out totally sounds like something Tommy over to you. D C, wouldn't even qualify as a singular congressional district because of its low population

real and set in front of lives Janey where there was a lower population. I believe yes, that's correct. As from Congresswoman Nancy May Stacy wouldn't even be the smallest state, it would be I had a Vermont and yes, why arming John over to you why arming has three times as many workers in mining logging in construction and ten times as many workers in manufacturing? Why only as a well rounded working class state, fake, That's real Senator Tom cotton You put it through the Google translator. Well, rounded does mean white, that's how you translate a close. Tommy, you're, absolutely crushing and ironing over you enough with power grab there are only eight Starbucks locations. Fake because others Waymore Starbucks in that.

that's that's correct here. There are only aids to her books in Vermont, Ike Alaska has around twenty Deasey has ninety one. It's also wouldn't be a good reason. John back to you found fathers never intended for Washington DC to be estate Yes, that's real from senator my grounds of South Dakota, which is one of the smaller states in the country, because we made to Dakotas Fun facts. When President Harrison sign the papers granting statehood to the Dakotas. There was a rivalry of which one got to become a state first, so they shuffled the papers, and it's not record, we don't know which state became state first, South North Dakota, that interesting. Failing that, I like that as well. damn it's combined, that's combined em. Tommy to you Deasey would be the only state without an airport, without a car dealership without a landfill real that is real. Those congressmen Jody Heights of Georgia, of course he does have cardio ships and well may not have a landfill. It does have a repository of trash called the Heritage Foundation.

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the mistake of asking me why I was headed to Boston and then I think I vomited anxiety and excitement at you nonstop. For two hours. I thank you exactly. You know like yeah, I remember it the major uncle yet. yeah I was it was a political reaction and then- and I about two hours like an hour, fifty nine to the flight. I said: You know I realize I forgot to ask you what you're doing here and you just said to me. I think you know my dad speaking. You know you didn't really getting into it anyway, didn't big time, maybe just like I got you may now as Israel following. I absolutely remember that they really did it got there a long time ago. So within. Thank you for doing this that the book again is beautiful things. It I felt like two separate books that are that are inextricably connected right. There. There's the part about the loss of of your rather bow in the stories about,

the love and resiliency of your family, and then there the count boughs with addiction and the journey to sobriety in I was hoping could start by just you're talking about. Oh because we know what became clear to me from reading the book why's that You guys were more than just brothers. You know you often talked about yourself in bow or or yourself, and your dad and bow is all like one entity that was bound together by love and by tragedy in these connections that we're just unbelievably strong as well if we start by by talking about him in that bond, you share it with your family, because I do think it so important understanding you I locked up about today, so we need new number. He was special person. To everybody who met him by everybody managed in four. Maybe I think the vote I would have been its causes. We were by them major, my family, in the way that we were

Here today, a part been in We were the first for me, my family of that generation and so we're. Gonna everybody's plaything. Snow causing I want. My mom says your died it was even closer together in the sense that we want a focus of everyone's love? It might family for a very long period of time, make us whole again and and I often talk about this in the book. I felt I feel a sense of guilt almost in In talking about that, you told my life is any as as a true, because when I remember most, what is at the forefront in my mind, is

just the incredible amount of love that was given to us, but in particular the incredible amount of love. Tat White is that there was my brother period we will together constantly and we were with my dad trusted me this We could go there with my dad wherever we However, we want it and knowledge, if only turkish take advantage of it a little too much sometimes, but so we were would be undertaken within down. These sheep were around the horse, was set at going tat, train back and forth every day, and then on that point, existed until the day he died. We we literally spoke I think, people somebody the thing like: oh my god, of the President, that's it

call it soon every day like that must be a burden that is called me every day since the day I left for college in there his life easier again touch with bigger than it was at times, but am opposed. It was my rock and always kept still has two sides of the same coin and he was as proud of me as I was here been there, and it was a year In essence, the data has had a very started here because well in view of the book is really a love story. A love letter. To those. Do the people back. They never gave up on me. and it's a lot of families ethical understand, because so many people are going through a great it yeah the book. The book is like a love story about your family and I feel, like I learned a lot about who you are as a group, the carriage if your father, you known it in its beautiful in that sense, It also includes

incredibly raw descriptions of tough times in your life included when both SEC and hard to read by there. As part of me, they came This thinking like it's good for people, to read this, because when my, died from cancer. I could- help a notice. How often I saw uplifting stories about people beating it or it described Euphemistically right is like this person fought valiantly against the disease and at times it it made me mad because my Experience was like fucking hell. You know they mean watching someone like deal is the how cruel disease can be and how painful can be have traumatized thing experience was in. You know. You said in the book- and you said here like you referred, to give yourself the excuse of trauma our tragedy leading to addiction? but it is hard not to read that interest. Just feel, like the accumulation of why you had experienced or to see how that could read led to turning down or a relapse down the road, and I don't know

wondering like you're you're, so you're almost hard on yourself to rule that out in a kind of wondered why the other thing is I don't? I don't ruled out, but I never want to use it as an excuse, and I also don't ask anyone who come away with the impression which they walk if they reached a block of that money. speeches it anyway, I mean you at the mouth. I mean it. You got your dad in in we need to go through that is, is. Is too often a story there I don't know any that that has not touched someone in some way whether its grief and loss, when dying at of kids. or whether it is a tragic laws like the loss of my mother. My sister

relax it and with the book is really. I hope, say, the people is you're, not alone and by the way, is it not alone in the fact that the year Other your dad, your daughter lost the battle to cancer. Wasn't because they didn't try hard. I know them I used to do that frustration you have, I would get really angry too, the agri forestry. Confusing I've been out with too many. words did contravened possibly describe that field. Maybe there's no way they can fully described the feeling of shame or frightened to like what was until you Talkin about make threats and an end racism is really funny say I know a way to.

There was called the answer to all things for attics. There's someone it suffers from addiction would, I believe, is ultimately brain disease is. Are you That's why you do drugs well, because they work and a work until they don't its the fastest way. I know of ever erasing that p it the fastest way to do it to hold different help. For me, it's a lotta memoirs alot of books is actually like you're, not up politician, but yours ominous are like come from that world often stand off the edge, is or omit the worst details. You clearly did not do that. You talk in great detail about alcohol and drug abuse, including extended periods of like serve nonstop crack use Why did you decide to just lay at all? I was at a tough decision now. I wasn't because, when I I decided to write write a book. I knew that

with that, I wanted to raise with the whole state that the full story of the depths of my nation, because I know that I I think it is the value of the story, The reason I am so vivid about it. It was too People know that are suffering sick in the same way that I was in its millions of people. Is that there not alone is it, I was I was truly. There are interesting and by the way you take the stigma. Take the shamrock, wrote it with fully of the fact that my tabs at that, when I wrote the book, the former vice, representation that dominates fora. was denominator, but by the time I finished but a lot of people didn t want to be a well before. I finish up like that:

point is that I wanted to let people know that that I was there. I was one of those people in the room, someone's, what's enemies revolving around in which ah and when He couldn't tie in with the IMF, that is a report that takes that we're not proud of in addition, and sometimes not even the protection in which I will to let people know that I was in this room to it. I got out and made it out, so there's appear in the book You know when you're you, you can get back to allay end user. I think you write a: u essentially decided to succumb to addiction and in turn give up on you know. Like sense of self. You once had this past life in. that's when they're, like the Giuliani attacks about bereavement and everything else, really start a ramp up. You're, obviously like Europe's using heavily that

What were you monitoring these things in real time like what? What was that to see the shutters pop up so either the truth is that, in a way I completely enjoying myself from it, because I was so focused on migration, so focused when you're in that, at least at the level of Dixon. I found myself it in which I was, Working in literally every fifteen to thirty minutes, yet, if I wasn't, smoking was looking for dinner. away to replenish by our supply in and they would be messages in from from people who care about the love you got it. You know addressed together. The stories bigger it end. It just compounded my

determination that you know I am I'm the lost cause. Did I d given up and myself had given up on it? I didn't at last, though my daughter's desperately desperately desperately were constantly trying to save me renewed their most customer by my dad in my life, but I decided to Justice ends enough. What happened was it isn't it administers was New Yorker writer got in touch with a friend of mine. Who is that my my lawyer, but also my brother's oldest ready when a what's fence and die such I'd, like that The reason I dogs is because you up, I was it.

The was the New York remedies, Mr Prizes, like I'm, gonna talk the disk right right. Let me not because I always wanted to reach with new represents sixteen years arm itself, everything to save. My life is really the Julian today than ever. The intention that is really interesting, like open, open, purchased crack enough to up was yet you really waded out to him. It resulted in this eleven thousand word peace that came out next July, twenty nineteen putting on my life political hack, hat for a second inadvertent, was brilliant right because, as you said in the book, no one's call it up saying like hey, were hearing rumours the daily mail in teams year reporting you just fuckin laid out there, but did you? far from the campaign. Those like hey up his is gonna. Tell me you guys. Will it kills me utilise window? This is no way that Europe the state.

You would have shut it down so fast like I needed by the way right professional, whether an end I've had enough sense in Irish had been around this long enough to go, get it I'm told anybody inside the camp David by the way, I'm talking adamant about all these issuing any accusations, but I decided also to get into a full description of the level of my private actions. I think people would literally and back in fairness and in all the players when it did, become evident that what I have done. They were fully supportive of some of us. Of speaking, the truth is ultimately the other day. When I realise this is it you know what? we need much different than anybody else. Measure fayaway brightly

here I don't know any family that doesnt have someone that they love. The respect that we believe is Why is it that has struggled with addiction. In addition, I include the most addictive trouble. In my opinion, it was destructive, I don't know anybody did when it came out I think everybody was a little bit shocked because they think would release. George people tell me is crack yeah. More than anything, it it carry sexual, which is such a loaded, work in it there, things that are not necessarily true, but it really can sharks shocks the a little bit, but anyway, I think a lot of people saw him in me:

in our family, saw their families saw themselves yeah. I do to end like I've worked in politics, for while you ve been around politics or whole life, neither of us expects to be gentle are always high minded that said liked you, point about every family experiences. Some sort of level of addiction, Donald Trump Brother, Fred died at forty three because of alcoholism. Don Trump said that had a profound impact on him, but they didn't just go after your business dealings. They went after your substance abuse problems right like that. Little prick, Don Junior likes me jokes about a relic, didn't that level of viciousness, so price you would all these. It surprised me, I know he's a human being devoid of empathy that, like it still, it surprised me on a human level and on a political level, because I I just thought to myself attacking come on for an addiction seems like a fucking crazy thing to do they just such a budget

Peter for waste that I think about it. I think you do to you put on your political and you wonder: What the hell are they doing this work, because it seems so vindictive small mean by poorly appealing to write by doing this, and you just try to figure out that part, which is, to figure out, because I dont think most Americans are small vindictive in in mean spirited. Then he put, on the other hand, is what's the energy is. What is the Europe was the what's the greater grants, tragic illustration of? Instead they are just small vindictive in me. But on a personal level I I've been my dad's been a senator, since I was two years he's been in there in the middle of national politics. My entire life,

when he had the highest levels with you guys in the administration and and I'll never these days, the witness to know any time in the history of which there has been a did it did that level of meanness. I don't know I mean funny if Europe is up, but this I don't know, I don't think there has been some from soup tonight's with me is finally figured out what it was really do believe they consciously understood that the most important thing to my dad was me and my shit, my fear not just me, but me, my sister, my brother and his family, and if they could if they good attack me in keeping it locked in my prison of addiction or or do worse to me that

to his one remaining so that it would be almost impossible for him to in some way, but the moment they will be the last and what they do. Kepler was that that is all just made us stronger, it is if we were still, we were stealer, reinforced still by the end of escaping well, speaking as a guy who's. Dagon me and by Mean tweet. I have enormous respect for your resilience airing your father's resilience to me. I guess you know for your fer you for dad for your family, I mean it must have just been agony watching. Someone they love, so much must be the subject of these attacks like, whereas Hunter like what what did the end game of the where's Hunter attack like you're like your head out of some like bank in ukraine- oh you're, like with what the fuck did, they think they're fine she's my legs the best thing is that, as I said, the boy come readier in army they don't really good job of

continuously harassing personal. I mean you don't bore his outside the house, which was pregnant in Vienna did text is very obviously, observers broke out like that that, like some gimme, a person, Ceta harassing text, her far have we followed that someone would do that here that that's kind of almost constant, and particularly during back in a carefree bench. Those rights is really crazy. The actual story of it is. it's hard to help us win joy. Rooms at these attacks, which he clearly is doing this deal in Ukraine, which why did he appeasement and background? then all the personal attacks start in that by then the new Yorker cleaner? It's out I've. I've felt incredibly, not violated by the fact that, like us,

you need a laptop, you have a book right and in that that was when I met and she started the hard work and I started the hard work of getting clean so little All that pay the term when you think that it was like the way to the world that is it. I know I only had to do. One thing right: every day in that was left to pick up a trigger drug when you have that level of focus, and you realize how close she worked gap in how awful appear existence was then you get to wake up next to someone that loves you and reconnect with all of the people that so care about you and I Literally it's that is my brother gave me the key to my own. The prison of my own making, which was beautiful banks to the title of the book

You I get the wake up every and I started this practice adjust bitterly. through my head. All of the things I have to be grateful, for it there were so many dead least what I would set the table that way with all the beautiful things that I have in my life, all the other stuff just became a back the oyster bilaterally. Didn't breakthroughs, approach wasn't fun, but it was a mere. Was it It was a beautiful moment. My life at centre, right right I'm an attack, whether recovery elements, because I found it I found a really interesting really helpful do so. I can understand it better, be his look. I've a lot about Alex my family, you, my father, was an alcoholic, but he was, over before I was kind of old enough to be aware of it, and I would like it like you, always struck me as almost surprising used like a guy flew fighter Jetsam like drove a new motors re like he felt funding. Did someone in your life can feel so in control and then to now

that there is this other thing where they have no control. So you know I never sat down with him said like what are the basics? I wonder if we could do that like what for so what is it? What is the twelve step program like? How does that work and how does that help someone who's battling addiction. For me I think I could talk about it. The way who helped me in number one, to realize that the biggest thing walking into a room of other people, the razor say, I'm not a hologram tonight- is the to realize that Did you not only one and then to hear specificity of what it was. For what is like now, what you're doing to get better is a is such an incredibly liberating thing, because many attics feel when there were trapped in their diction. Does it no one could possibly I understand what it's like

or have their problems are greater than the problems that anybody else asked. So unique, that'll take care. Pisa, and would you realize in those those groups was forwards, in whatever form, but their j I and many others that are out there The first thing you realize you know and what addiction was for you is for you to enable it wants to be the only answer that start to realise that there may be another issue just desire, isn't it. Hopefully deliberating fury and only hang onto it. Yeah So in you also tried some wars or the intense approaches lights are taking other powerful drugs like I began or are Ketamine D help reduce addiction that experience help at all? What was that, like I think that every but every piece of up, every time I come,

We shall first solution a reach out for and I a helping hand I think it. it had a hopefully a cumulative effect. I think that my it is all about. The level of attention is put into it Experience with the game, was very powerful, but it now something that it necessarily would recommend everybody, but I know the science behind it I know the science behind how it is particularly affected. Entry people were PTSD, in particular, as relates to opiate addiction. I know the sides behind the way in which that we effusions therapies is helping people severe drought, traumatic experiences and I think that there are so many things that we have explored dead and that they could be

useful, but the one thing I do not choose to do any summer boy. I think and I do know this is ultimately at the end of the day, the matter why it's a It is a decision that you have to make it. Day by day. Sometimes something minute by minute, because ill, as I said before, the Mai, the drug Lisbon, the most damaging to me. I think damaging to our society is completely Its ubiquitous in front of you all the time what shop, yeah yeah is marketed in everything whether you know not. Did there there's really starck line in the book rewrite there's a popular theory that inadequate hit bottom before here. She can be helped. The attics I know who had bottom are dead that, like,

terrible conventional wisdom. I thought was a good reminder that there is no instruction manual that I've seen for life to help someone you know or you love that you see dealing addiction in it book you describe allow different it attempts to get sober, including yours, prize intervention by your family, that that just it does not go well. It's really heartbreaking. Do of advice, for folks who might be listening, who maybe have inadequate in their life in the world. help them before they hit that rock bottom point like it is anything you'd suggested like how did you get this number one? Don't give up hope. I know. How often is it the dead, the pain and an attic can cause I'm not talking about when attics act out in ways that are vital and in the end, any right daddy, and that is something that I think that is obviously we have to protect yourself No matter what

But if you have someone that you love, that is just not getting any keep reaching up to help them and they keep rejecting that help is just know this. it's not about you. It's not that love is enough: it's not that you know that you're not enough for them. It's not about you. It is it is a disease of the brain is literally there. The neurons are firing in there. What is being told to the attic is, is it yeah there is only one answer to their pay: there's only one answer which is to continue to reach for the drugs they become physically ends then in any way psychologically depended. What I say is this is did I know this when I was in the middle of that too? in their was not light on either side

the chances of made finding my way out unless someone came into the tunnel with the ladder to guide me out, we're Zira, and so I just stay- to all those people that have someone that they love and that they was worth saving is just never never, stop Troy, never stop true, and I would ask you in a minute about the person who helped you get out of that tunnel, but just one more question like theirs: juxtaposition in the book. I think I'm sort of of yours The situation is like about the private age and money you made through consulting including the Breeze MC contract. And the reality of the typical user or crack seller, and this with the communities in America we're together that the druggist ravaged your experience is obviously I pretty atypical right. Like them, money allowed you to fall off the grid, it allows you to buy huge quantities of drugs, It is time to to protect EU, because no one, Sir

users or an ordeal over coming in and out of hotel rooms and allay or when the staffing paraphernalia right, their reaction isn't have him arrested, it's your politely, kick him out to look back? I wonder how you viewed sorted. The money you made through Europe, your clients that enable that addiction and also maybe the ways protected you from consequences that might have landed a lot of other people in jail completely unfair and I think that the there One hundred percent they were still here today and not in a jail cell or in an institution because of my privilege, and not just the privilege of a family? That love me, the privilege, half the fact that I had been very successful it up into the point that I wasn't in that had the ability to make a choice

they respect of staying in a motel. Eighty nine dollars appeal a night, I'm in here in the longer eighty five genetic or at a three hundred dollar like you're, sweet in ally, and what I would say is that what we have to do- this is a conversation. I'm I'm all in four is addition drug use. Is a mental health problem. is a it's a problem. can be addressed and they need to be able to start scattered as a mental health problem within the council within the structure of our health system, and it is not a criminal. Travel, it is, it is not a is not a problem. that cannot be solved or addressed by their

The criminal justice system we know what do we have to listen and to save lives and Whenever censored, the criminal justice system has done nothing to be able to solve our addiction epidemic that we are now beginning. and now I just got worse, particularly with the attack and you I had the opportunity a fiery has an alternative treatments when ninety nine percent of people they get in there. the knowledge that they have is jail or an institution. Have you like lobby, your dad or like D, o j or logic, is on until these the needed decriminalizing things like I agree with you. It seems like a conversation that starting, but as is not picking up steam fast enough sometimes well.

I understand the question but, as you know, I don't lobby with that in mind. I, but I'd like by advocating Maria less I mean I wrote them, and I know what I would I leave I'm ready to engage in the discussion in it, in a public way with you. I know that I take it that you just have to start up. You take it. I think one of the people there s bed, Thank you said. I know knows more about this. from a personal level, but also from a policy level, is Patrick, to start an enormous amount of work when he was a congress. Head still continues to do, and I think Don't do that. It's really opportune time to begin to really look at this because, as I said. right now I don't have you seen the numbers and she D C. S relates to

and nobody knows not just as relates to obey but across the floor during this time. The pandemic- and it is just staggered- snagging yeah yeah, last question. So you know you you miraculous, Will you met your wife Melissa anyway, you fellas love. You forgot away get sober. I can t tell the story of how this happened, how it's going uses pretty it. It is it's a truly miraculous ending to tell the story yeah Now I'm gonna red book too, so that the people there, it actually works, but the as it is a good seems, miraculous were one of the things. I exaggerate the book in telling the story but found it up. I am not the first person they never love at first sight and and I ended up. I don't know why I should ever be this lucky

I know that I have my guardian angel submit my brother and sister, my mom. It there and I'd love to think they have had a hand in it. but what I always say about policies this is it She did the the. and she was a stranger in a way that had a familiar saw. It looked felt like coming home, but I knew that I already rejected that love so many times they took someone out there didn't have all of that. My mediate region like a little like I talk about at the intervention like every year. ITALY ran away, and whatever was My heart was resulting just enough

For me to allow Melissa, do start hard work, and then it was hard to tell you what I mean accordingly. I get day slogan of drugs, Anything else would I could put my body to do No myself and in Europe what is my cheap. Mr Monti, its little it could lead to the house. Did she had to do their work for longer view? I've ends up in the appropriate place, well, tat his arm. The great book book is beautiful things. I think everyone should read it because its rhetoric on account of of addiction and of recovery ends of humans. Worry about a family in love. I think, is very much worth your time. So thank you for writing. It thanks for talk today.

it's great to see you again, you do. It's been a long time, see a unified, the Boston and a couple weeks ago. Exactly thank you. Thank you too. Hunter button for joining us today will see as Wednesday night, a group thread and ran. I didn't. I will have a pot on Thursday about the big joint address by rule pod, save America is a cricket media production, the exit, producer is Michael Martinez are Your producer is flabby causes, are so producers are Jordan, Waller, Jazzy, Marine and Bolivia, Martinez, its mixed in edited by Andrew Chadwick, Kyle said is our sounded junior. two tiny simulator, Katy Long, Roman Papa Dimitrios, Caroline Rustin ingesting how for production support into our digital team, illogical, normal cognac,

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