Bill’s guests are John Kasich, Oliver Stone, Rev. Dr. William Barber II and Thomas Frank. (Originally aired 8/21/20)
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Welcome to reach me apart from the HBO real time. Thank you. Thank you, you're a fantastic audience. Thank you. I know. I know why I'm happy today, because this is our last show here from my bag cape going back to the studio, We can not a moment too soon, because you know it was hot boy without heat wave here in California.
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returning to the Jerry lowest telephone it like two in the morning, is a lot like that, but in accomplish what it had to accomplish. Joe Biden accepted the nomination this week in a high school library. Oh it gets worse. An old lady came out and church to Wednesday, night Obama spoke, he killed. It took the gloves off against trompe said. Trump has no interest in doing the work and Trump was so pissed about that but he must have to foot. Put us Joe. You know it's going after the youthful till he was interviewed by cardy, beak and yeah. She interviewed Biden said that his daughter gave him a nickname.
We beg- and he also has a rap me. You know that Joe Biden- yes, it's the french fresh, prince of smell hair, Joe S Party, you know, as as politicians, do you know what are the issues that are of interest to you that matter to you and shoots. Cardy said she wants three health care. She wants free college and Watch racial justice and Joe said: hey would ever get your pussy but tat it was. It was a very very nicely to beyond. It ended well at the end quote. He said this is why I will vote for you and Joe said This is why I picked you as my running late, but hey big nose out of the Senate. The Senate intelligence can vary this week, release their report on Trump and Russia and big surprise. Yes, there was quite a bit of collusion terms.
Campaign manager, poor man get, this was using different encrypted messaging apps like wicker Signal three, my fibre boxer hush mail. Little fishy. Thank God he wasn't using a private he may serve, but let me just reiterate. Finally, next week we are back in the studio. Now there are some tradeoffs there. Yes, there's a slightly greater risk of infection, but a lower risk of stepping in dogs should, after new rules, are a great shout. Oliver stone. John K, sick, the Reverend Doktor, William Barbara, the second and timely sprang to the moral yesterday. Let's get ok, my first guys the form republican governor from Ohio who spoke on the first nine of the Democratic Josh this week. I endorse Joe Biden for President our friend John K, sick governor
I know they say: politics makes strange bed, How did you ever think in your wildest dreams that you but be at a democratic convention. Opening for Bernie Sanders. Well it seems a little bit tab, you no kind of out of the ordinary bill, but you know my whole career. I've had great relations with people in the other party. One of them is a guy random see you might recall he was a very liberal, cried. He was a congressmen. He was the mayor of Oakland and He- and I became very very close. Indeed I did things were, to actually with Ralph Nadir on corporate welfare. With TIM penny on balancing the budgets so this is not even though its I would have never kind of imagine this. It's not that I'm uncomfortable seeing people The other party is somebody that I can work with them and help in some ways, but speaking at a democratic convention. Obviously it's something out of the gods and its that's a lot bigger auditing lot, bigger, read, but that we are but I gotta,
yet the time with some of the things I did with deadlines, which was the limit, the production of the bee to bomber, I mean I was, flea in a meeting with republican leadership and a guy there accused me of being a trader? I mean those were big things I mean I was I was big time when you start taken on major weapon systems and we limited the production of it, but this is big time. You know to be it at the convention. But when they asked me to do it, I have searched my conscience as you would expect in, and I I thought about it, and I thought this is the right thing to do and I hope you kind of felt as though it was a classy talk cuz, I you know I try to talk about what's in in our country. Yeah. I was got good reviews and it should have I'm saying this is endorsing telling people to vote for person who is not in your party. Let me ask you this a little but tougher question
you have done it. If you are still in office, because I see a lotta republicans doing this column. Powell spoke there in a number of our souls in MILAN. Airy make Whitman all retired. You, don't see it a lot from Republicans in office. The unjust and ambitions at a question. Only one motion, but you can But you can remember that I expanded Medicaid right there. It was very controversial at the time. I was the only major republican governor in the country that did that and I was heading into to re election and I went ahead and and did it because I thought it was the right thing to do, and not only did I hide from an island explain to people. Why was doing it so it open Life is so short, you know it's just so short and when you feel really compelled it's a matter of conscience. You gotta to do what you have to do and but I can't project back. I can just for example, of what I did that went against the grain and numb and I'm comfortable with what I've got.
And let me tell you this. I get a lot of heat for this too. I get praise and he all the same time, but I know it would come. That's life. Yeah. Now that you want people to go out its first. In Ohio at which is close this year very close You won't be able to go out and pull the lever for the Democrat Yemeni. Regrets about some, the things you did. Maybe when you work up in that really serve to suppress the votes democratic voters, the use it or lose it law which you push through, which says. If you haven't voted into elections in a row, they take you off the roles cutting down on early voting. I mean summit, stuff, is what Democrats worries rip, accusing republicans of doing which is the only saying. The only way you can win elections is basically by. Cutting down the number of people voting well bill. First of all, we if we have more,
early days of voting, it's easier to vote in Ohio than about any other state and Secondly, that whole eat, you know, use it or lose. It was something I I didn't pass that that was something that was in effect, but one the things that I did do was tell the legislature that I was not going to. Go along with the idea that people had to have a driver's license. I d, because I felt that that would be there. Very unfair and it would hurt people. So I am satisfied with with what I had to do And in terms of value, in terms of that that that early, voting again. I think we have like twenty nine days of early voting, it's more than what they I've been to York, so maybe people ought to catch up to rather than we worried about. You know how many days we have. We done a good job here with that: ok, what western I'm going to review you, the president, yesterday. I had to keep and I told you so on this year,
Trump said the only where we're gonna lose this election is if the election is rate, which is basically saying, and I went, tells you lose and then they Scully Makin any about it, and she said yeah, in other in the will see what happens mode, which is, of course not and so you want to hear from oppression it about. Will you accept the results of the election Donald Trump also said we're going to win former years after that will go for another for bigger, they spied on my campaign. We get a redo of four years. He's doing my act for me this guy. I still think people are not taking this. Obviously, as they should What do you say and what should we do bill? My concern is this, so you
a guy out here already setting it up saying. Well, you know, I think, there's we're going to be ripped off unless I win and the problem with it. The deep problem with it is, if you get like twenty or twenty five percent, people in this country that don't believe in the legitimacy of a presidential election you gotta, You have a real real problem and that's when I first I am talking about. That's went through with what went through my mind. You can have situation work that the President of the United States just think about it. There's precedents for this Richard Nixon felt that things are not going the right way. When you ran against Kennedy, he thought he had grounds of protest. He didn't do it Al Gore it. I know Oh very well, you know I was able to concede, he said, look for the good of the country, I'm not gonna fight this. So we have Republicans and Democrats who have helped the country first in which you see with these comments to me. It is it's it's beyond deeply troubling, because if you get that number,
people that don't believe in the legitimacy of the election, where do we? from there. So I just hope it's gotta be a sweeping three, but I think even with sweeping victory, you're still gonna have people to doubt the outcome, but the mess wherein and that's why I spoke at the convention as a things like. That cannot be tolerated. There are still around here. What were actually gonna, do and it's more than just. I think people who don't accept the election. It's that both sides, I use this word existential about. If the other guy wins America is over. When you have two camps like that, who think It's the end of the country, the end of our life, as we know it. If the other side which know in what world is Joe Biden, the end of America, I dont know, but that's where they are due really think. There's gonna be a peaceful transition of power well bill. I wouldn't I dont want to speculate that things could go a could go
negative there I dont want to die. Wanna, see that I don't have to be something you need to talk about, but I will tell you that that's another reason why I spoke because the hatred through clench teeth doesn't now exist. Just with politician it's now down and the families it's in the it's it's with neighbours sits with friends I mean I have never seen time it's been getting their getting it. Now it's been fed. You know like putting gasoline on fire where you know it used to be the politicians didn't like one another, but now when you have families being broken, people can't talk about this. This is what really troubles me and it's so ridiculous, because we're Americans and right that it's that everybody's, therein their own silos, its tribal, and I wrote a book about this. In fact, we talked about it before it's called it. It's up to us. If you can't you ve you, you fix every
thing from the bottom up, not the top down, and when the public is divided, you can't get anything done and that its so upset about that. Could I see it every single day will listen. I commend you for thinking of this. Invention and endorsing Biden. I think that was a really great thing you did and for those people or hostile to hear you say you're getting a lot of heat. You know, I know that sometimes comes from the left, and I just want to say to those people look in this three you're always going to be sharing it with some people, a lot of people who have just don't see the world the way you do, and you have to accept that what seems like. In this place. We on each other, obliterate each other, no one wants to compromise and that something that you and your I didn't have in common, two guys? You know you know who accept that he will have differences, you can't own them. You have to work with them. We have to co exist,
anyway. I don't have any more time, but I'll say one point more thing. You know why you and I probably disagree on this and maybe in time. I could come on and talk about it, but the fact that we have eroded religion and what I mean by that is, I mean not the doubts and religion, but the dews love your name, we're all made in the image of God. You see. If we actually, there people thought about it, then they wouldn't be able to cancel people out. They wouldn't be able to express all this bitterness anger, because under that scenario, you must respect and care for your neighbor you, must realise that when people are made in the image of our creator, they deserve respect and you can not cancel them This is something that we need to talk about. I know it's. It's tough because we ve seen a lot of people who are preachers have given religion a bad name but for those best people who were of the faith, jewish Christian, whatever the is most
whatever it is there is an elm there of respect an element their of accountability and so It is something that some point. I hope that we can talk about remind me of the dentist who says something provocative just as he sticks that thing in my mouth and again, because I have to go up it's a lot. I would like to say to that, and you are right. We don't agree, but I appreciate your coming out in doing what you're doing. Thank you governor here that you thank you. EL very, very much. Ok aright. He has the president of repairs of the breach and co chair of the poor peoples campaign is latest book. Is we are called to be a move. The Reverend Doktor William Barbara. The second great to see you arrive and he's there are people know a brief history of anti populism. Thomas, Frank, ok, you guys the new to have a lot in common. I think you're, both very well known for trying to convince the Democratic party. Maybe that day
have gone in the wrong direction. Abandoning me their traditional demographic of the the working poor, in favour of what we would call the whole food voters. Whole foods voters you think the convention so far has done and winning back those voters. Achieving your gulls man, who's gonna go first workshop of it. So if you'd ass, a couple days ago. I'd say that Biden is doing a superficially good job he at least understands what went wrong in two thousand. Sixteen in some way and One of the reasons is the candidate is because this is a guy like that that has a really good chance of winning back Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, etc. But I want it you know you when you watch this convention, one of them
really bugs me about it- is that they do it This is a society that it is. You know what is Heaven on earth for the kind of people that you just described the whole Foods Democrats. I live among these people, they're very affluent they're doing great and it's a wonder for them for the rest of us for, like the veto, the vast majority of Americans. This is a failed, eight. This is a society that is crumbling. I made the eviction. We're about to face a mass wave of you know: foreclosures the opium crisis. Just You know now this pandemic medical bankruptcies, de industrialization on and on and on, and it it gets worse. Of this is not. This is not being discussed at the democratic and and should basically at all you know this and this is the kind of thing that was the bread and butter of the Democratic Party not all
long ago bill MAR I mean within our lifetime. This is the kind of thing Democrats would talk. They would talk about nothing else. Now they don't mention it at all, but if you're one of those people I'm sorry! I ok I'll shut up. No, I just wanted to jump to say and here's the problem bill. It's not this. This convention I want do something: John Lewis: did he simply support Kennedy, but he criticised it before we go the cold. We had before me a people living in poverty, lower sixty two million people, making lessened giving way just sixty six million white people living in poverty lower. We have eighty someday the people understood sure The study just before the convention started. He said if you just had once a nineteen percent increase where people have already screens and covers such rapid who, both on an agenda, an agenda that was clearly and talked about them in the issue. You could change
all fifteen battleground states and even the south changing the Senate is their request. Me is how do you have continued? I have convention convention I would even say the word represent forty three percent of a nation have over because it before it can be over fifty percent of the nation. Now, how do you do that? So so super fish like we were to have something to be seen, but everyone knows candidate promised Eric at a conference that we get a twenty nineteen that they were going to call for full debate on poverty and low well, and it will call for a full debate on what pacific racism really is. Starting with race of suppression. They said that the poor people and preachers once they get a convention. They go right back to the same man, Republicans racial, our positive impression run from poverty, get stuck in the NEO liberal market and we leave out millions of people. Thirty, two million people
who could vote were porno wealth and get less time and we have what big step in Michigan was Carson and Pennsylvania. From one by seven thousand plus vote to want one looking for and low wealth people in those areas that need info, and when I visit there, I go to Appalachia and the alabama- they say a lot of them say you haven't voted the last two years is because nobody talks to us. We never hear. Is you and it just looks like it's going to be the same. Now. They're starting to say, but we don't stop, make it out there we're not going to wait on them anymore. That's why we're organizing? What is ridiculous and we could do so much better. We could expand the elected at change the calculus out. Otherwise, what we do is we asked to keep the door open for trial because it dropped as well
here's the southern states. He went ahead and sixty eight electoral term, just seventy one thought about what people living supplement. The rough awakened live in the sun. If you just raise nineteen percent of poor people in the south who have voted to go around each other extremist can't win in this country two points here. If you don't talk about this stuff trump, will we saw that in two thousand? Sixteen is that, like Gonna do anything about it, he's a demagogue right, but he would pretty well pretend to care and did a you know a fairly decent job of that in two thousand and sixteen for all his folly and his you know his buffoonery, and here again, if you give him this chance now that the larger I think that we should be asking it I, and I hope that you will ask if bill, why, why Doktor Democrats, what to do
like whatsoever and Barbara was was saying just now. If you heard it in my new book, I write a lot about the things are Democrats did in the nineteen thirty's during the great depression which are like you, don't mind boggling today, we can't even believe they get it, but the governor of Minnesota, for example, the moratorium on on foreclosures and evictions. What if Joe Biden did that today? What if he actually didn't just promise it. He actually some. How did it contrived to do it as president? You would have those voters for a generation, why don't they do stuff? Like ok, What is your imagination, rail them less than having a badge, and they showed a video about a woman. Speaking in Spanish saying she came with the country illegally because she needed health care for a party that's already being painted. As for open borders, which is not true, but blood People believe that is that in opposition to the people that very people you're talking about that, the guy who's had a work can't pay is rent.
Mortgage, can't even visit his mother. Now because it covered that guy you're saying you have a what my problems, there will be, if you dont, missed it all up, and if you don't show that person who came as all immigrants have come to this country. Looking for work for away up and the two for a man is what some people call illegal today. If they had Thank you for the great grandmothers will have any legal too. If you dont, explaining that have a Roma compensation, but there go further and say: let us deal with the fact that the people, for instance, who gets immigration, fixing immigration, before. I guess what they are: the same: people their put, puss border, subtraction and gas will postpone suppression, toilet black brown people when they get elected, they used to steal
not just get and guess what IRAN numbers. They heard more white people, they actually Aren't you so that lady is natural in? We should be fixed, I embrace, but you can't do that if you don't put a face of poverty on the screen. If you don't talk about these issues and say, if we get elected if we get elected, we're not going to give eighty three percent of all this money to corporations and banks. Why we don't give two essential workers, the essentials that they need? I mean, will people be able to say
yeah like they are going to their own mass murder as what is it because we are being forced to go to work in lethal situation, we got. People gave us a name change will service worker to such a workers. They gave us a hand to every six o clock at night, but they didn't give us the wages, the sick leave that the unemployment rate, forgiveness and more modest will get his end of water on on you till they cut off that we need. So if you just do your exact right, you just one star. Old score? If we have a grown up conversation about power and what it is doing to us across the board and how thirty forty three percent of this country and then, if we understand what can happen HANS Handed, it just came up with a book and he said we have been full into imagining supported as a poor white person when it's just not.
True merit why people are not go in and not voting, because we, the border suppression issues like sitting suggested, but most because the issue, if we talk to their decided talking about and if we get him all the same, nor what scampering wicked poor lights in the same way with black reboot, the keynote with with with indigenous people with gaping, would stay people with our leader. I think this is what's going on this is he's policies that are destroying all of us. In my book I promise how we might call the movement. What we say is rejected. The Volga rejected people come together. Those who reject, because there that the race to cover their sexuality, probably up they form a power base. Poor people are not one percent of the electorate and seven had people happy what that every day before
Oh the carnatic enough speak too there. Let me out about the last day of changes this this they. Let me ask you a question about the convention. Elsie was given ninety seconds and speak. I just talked to John case. Echo gave a long. Longer speech? Some people are not happy with that. It's obviously based on a decision The party made that see. Yes, she gets us a lot, but we are making the calculation that showing her showcasing her. We lose more than we get in this election. Now I see the trumps support has not change like that. Forty two percent. It's a bad number for a president, but it is steady. It steady is almost any pressure has had in decades there. Switching, which tells me ok. That means they really going to switch because John case it is is talking to them. Are they gonna go we
you John case. Nice try but staying with my tribe, does argue more for the Irish Sea why won't my arbitrary I'd Colin Powell, you know the architect of the Iraq war. You know that's going to persuade alot of people right. I mean the The strategy would be the alleged let's excite arm sauce, I don't know- I'm said the reverse- to account now politics with very complicated. Where are the ideal enamel drums of frightened Israel complicated were worth something's. Another couple You have an african american woman on the Tipp of a vice president, you Talkin about bringing the african american banks, and you know the only place you can expand. The pace is my poor lower people. You know if you do by less than twenty percent.
You changed fifty states and you bring as somebody who's about suppression not just case. It will not do the bonus oppression against black and brown people who also pass the worst welfare reform it hurt poor white people, more IRAN, members in a herd might be that makes no sense and didn't usage. You get aids see. Sixty sector hedge and some people try to argument that extreme. What was extreme about healthcare higher education- living wages and labour rights for all in addressing colonization repaired to the man. Is we brought here? The extreme case yes, yes to be kind of a long way off brings nothing but have you we don't know where you gonna hold. It met with a view to its day. Well, we'll say, will follow the other day. The answer: why don't they wanted there they're not interested in you're, not interested in doing that? Look in some way They are trying the same in the same state
they used in two thousand, sixteen with a few nations. You know Joe Biden is obviously a more lovable guy. Then Hillary Clinton was a thing in the cohesion a guy and Trump is such a scoundrel and Trump seems like even more of a scoundrel this year, but again there not really offering it, I'd have positive vision of the sort that the Reverend Barber just described, and they don't want to do that. Ok, look at this! going on for a long time in the Democratic Party bill where the centrist basically came out on top of. Liberal wing and they're, not ever gonna. Look back, you know they. They they want, they won the game and there you know they're not going to let these people have the time of day when a Bernie Sanders runs for president they're gonna see to it that he gets defeated. The very same sort of opinion cartel but today is saluting Joe Biden for his brilliant in his wisdom, and you know, and then last week, every single up at ever single day was about trumpet his folly and stupidity, these same people,
years ago were women. Same unanimity were at either be raining, anybody who criticise Barrack, above all from the left for Bingley Liberal Whiners, had how can you expect him to do anything when he has to deal with the Republican? You know Congress Bob unless they remember this, they will never end but less Africa. Can I help you, Sir Galahad, didn't one hope for peace to happen. If Democrats would what contacting Heaven election vision, the boy people stamping we went in there, we organised three years from the whole. Apart from the who to out with the comments in the same room, a vast worked Louis. We showed them. They were being played off against each other fat beyond one about training. We showed importer suppression and we showed him everybody who support of suppression and then we connected down a method. Its politicians were blocking a here. Here for the poor man is taken a good right. When I got up and say what hobble preposterous he sat there player
gets each other. So what are you gonna do about so they started organised, never endorsed a candle restarted, pushing issue. The democratic candidate did started, pushing of issues and hearing them aside talking about any sort of going to the house and he went to the who want democratic governorship off in contact and in the first week he kept his word or healthcare and fell into an ending founded disenfranchised. So this is talking hypothetical. If you want to change the american politics, you cannot ignore forty three, which is gonna, be now over fifty percent laser forever barber. When you go into these places, I mean you're talking about Kentucky Appalachia West Virginia. This is the typical trump voter, most people. Think of that and Trump did very well in those states. Certainly West Virginia. I think it's his best day and
Do you find it the way? You think that the white people are racist because for years what concerned Epps complain. Most about liberals was, you say, were racist about we're all races and, like I did many jokes up like that so a mechanism was to say I and an look. My honest opinion is that most of these Republicans racist, they're, just very blind. They think racism has been solved. They want to think even John Robert snags that so that's kind of where they are, but what I feel like it become a kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. Cars were in this land of white fragility. That book that, at the time of the book charts the liberals are embracing, which seems to be saying to white people. You have two choices here: either racist or your races- and you don't know here and I'm not an hour, you know this or you may like use, turn left and right Lucan. So that's a whole
I'll, say, because I think we got up most of them arson and I don T believe the son. You do more for the constitution. I think every piece of public policy oughta be asked this question: does it establish justice has issued a master and quality? Does it provide for the common defence? Does it get is to promote the general? Where does this give peak protection under the law and not Dennis faster Snake assistant, small indefensible and economic may say, but what I can tell you from my laptop to the Mississippi demand from Appalache element is a white rose overestimate the racism afore. Why people and they underestimate their all the reality has happened. What do you need to do is just hair.
Perception with full and showed him the connection. Firstly, you gotta stop talking about racism as individual acts mean. Are you not even candy has helped the Sunday he said the best back. Then we have to say systemic racism sustained stopped with you don't understand. It's really is the gun. Racism is always there. About structure and not just about individual and then with the issue of whether mathematical raises in their heart is a waste of time because planet, let me tell you about raising the keel, George LAW, which believe that raising you bookkeeper beside. It does not deal erases racism yet and look at the policy that you support and wasted despair. What we, If it were we going to be like the move that we have that people in the community agenda with a second hanukkah? We teach I say this unit about border suppression. Is they give people told ya? This out is powerful.
Brought wrought yet would let us show you something and we show people? The other those who do the border suppression. Anyway, sacred, you know Those are the same. People that are blocking your healthcare and taking a living wage had been raised Racism is targeted at black people and brown people. An indigenous people Ultimately, racism is anti democracy Maybe racism is alive and then some my grandmother taught me: Bearded argues in politics. I didn't get it from doing all these other school. She said If you scratch lagging found a feat when you can shop for white people, racism is alive and would you scratch racist he was ass about steal your health care as steel, living wages. Ass, the Argo Environmental Protection and steal
clean water. That changes the whole conversation. You don't have to talk about racism, you have to talk about it, the right way and didn't have the connected to the interlocking injustices system, evasively, systemic, partly ecological devastation, but war economy and the false narrative of religious nationalism. And when you connect our father, you can organise that twenty percent of brown people walk all over around the old merchant who, when they vote, I can fundamentalist he's got. So that's what we do not sit on discredited mention of how people say we gotta be heard one one final thing I want to bring up here at Tom, you wrote the book what about it with Kansas, I thought maybe this would be interesting for you steam bandit rested. Today I saw the Reimer he had an organization called we build the want. Of course we remember the beginning. Mexico is going to pay for the wall and then when they did- and it was like,
may your donation us give us very donations, and it was a complex game. Well, actually was not complex. It all was like you give me your donations, I dont build the wall and I buy yachts This is there's a long history of this in conservative land. You know about this whole nobody's erect whale schemes in the in the eighties when a comedian, his tall, ok, don't say these people are stupid, a man may give up this market lies about with it. What does your advice to Wikipedia who can say? Ok, that's fucking, stupid wait that without individual act is stupid, just don't call my cans stupid. That alliance, can, I say, But the last question is hurry. What Barber is doing is, is, is, is absolutely in a critically important trying to build a mass movement of working class people across racial barriers and from
money, that's the movement for economic democracy and for my money. That is that that's what populism was about this movement and eighty nine is that I've been right about that's what I was ass. It were unsuccessful for this country in the nineteen thirty cents for Doktor king wanted to do and when you talk about the other in a white for joy, but he whatever what would whatever it was that is idea that is obviously extremely corrupt. Have to solidarity, extremely corrosive and and deadly if you're, trying to assemble eel and electoral majority, but there This, and this is what absolutely fascinates me there's a large number of Democrats that dont care about those things and what interests them is what I call the my term, for which you know is the youth, opium of scolding where they get to live in this happy little world and they got a whole foods and they live in the really nice suburban. They have a professional why our job and
in their spare time they get to shake their finger, people lower in the social hierarchy, none for their. You know their vulgarity in there and air there tasteless in their bigotry and that enormously satisfying. I got ended there. You guys were you guys are both going away. I want. I want to hear what he is. What why can't? I got a job I gotta get. It's not gonna. Keep this TED words thank you guys are imperative. Morn you're, a great game- and I appreciate you do this right was the observer. Take it So there's a new voting demographic out there they're calling them rage. Mom you heard of security, moms and hockey moms soccer moms. These are moms, who think America is going to Hell in a handcart which it is and they're pissed about it and not getting any help if tired of being parents and caregivers
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month made her love Ellen, more You ask where babies come from. She says bad choices. our ideas, the ask winning director and screenwriter, or whose new memories chasing the light. Writing directing and surviving platoon midnight Express, Scarface Salvador and the movie game. Oliver stone and I was saying to you before I could probably do about another great movies. You ve made me you one of my favorite directors, and what I learned from this book is boy making movies is hard which seven them always that you know they were mainstream big movies and you were still fighting budget. Getting the money on the day you were shooting shit like that. Here's my question to you: what movie Could you not get grain? Let today that you made back well, I think,
it very hard to get a movie made today? I think this Jack Matter has to be kosher politically correct. Ass to my movies railways ruffian and they were personal points of view. You know they were pretty controversial, so I dont think that I would be doing very well today. If I were out there is young person at the book is about you know. The book is about those first, forty years of life right in her heart. I struggled to make her tune and Salvador, sadly, no one made in the same back to back. In the same year, eighty five, eighty six and vague It got me back in the game. I had already been successful. We ve been, I express and scarface, but I've I've. I then I fell out of favor and then I I come with those two films, but you member bill that those two films were not financed by american studios at all. They were not touched. The subject of the civil war in Salvador or no interest the subject of a realistic,
Vietnam, no movie, no interest, it was so frustrating during those years, and I think why motivated to write a book to get it out to talk to tell fellow Young film students and young people how difficult it is to get things moving. He didn't done period and to think for yourself and I worry. I wonder if you do also about what will these? not being made today has waited. Nothing and know what movies are made makers. We don't see them, it seems like based, what you're saying that we're missing out on a lot of stuff what movies, when you make today, if you could, if somebody gave you an unlimited budget in just said. Yes, Oliver, I'm here fan you go make it. What would you make I've had so many movies, it went through the pipeline and didn't get made. I just, I guess almost ten years of my life wasted, I mean I spent a lot of them.
I'm working on the meal I massacre for pink, fill in two thousand and seven we almost made it. It was cancelled because of the finance. Your guts got scared I work done Martin Luther King and Ill CHE for twice and then they both didn't make it through, because again it was controversial. I showed you, sir, not only his wisdom. And his love of God in his religious side, but also his sexy side is the love of women, and that touched on for sure I tried to make changes. Christ I tried to make was, I will be scarcely a dozen of them. You cannot make. A movie now after two thousand and one you then the trouble you know very well first hand. Oh making a movie critical of the EU s foreign policy,
military is off limits. You can t can I, the CIA, has, as we know, operating with more than eight hundred films. They give detailed instructions again we're equipment, it's a form of money. They give men. Sometimes so everybody, it's made- I wore film, a war related to has had to deal with that problem. So what did you this week on the report from the Senate Intelligence- can many that came out and put a kind of abide, partisan, That wave of your hand, is that your answer I made what kind of a bipartisan stamp on the idea that there was extensive coordination, but- and this is a republican saying this- between the report between the Trump campaign and Russia. I mean this guy constituting Colombo, who we heard about now they are naming him as a russian intelligence officer. Gee, are you he is. He was coordinating with terms pay manage? Your man afford
and your namesake Roger Stone Org, eyes they wiki leagues, dump thirty minutes after the holly. The access Hollywood tape came out. You can't really think that a russian president one. That's in there now should be able to read fuck our elections like this. Can you bill figure? I know you love too long. I think you're sophisticated enough to know that we have to question everything that comes out of our intent, sensation, since, if you learned that by now. You got a long way in those still be clear. So they're agencies are not reliable. They ve been screwing with America and going back to Vietnam WAR going back to where the Iraq war is the animal afghani wars, it's very hard to find out the truth from them. We they published the rumours on and all the
the anonymous sources that think tanks. The anti russian all adds up into this ball of wax it comes enormous and then They have you. People, like you, were sceptical generally believe in it. I would really triple check everything every one of those sources. I, when I read obey, wasn't that specific. It wasn't that specific and man. If what you know that it's Then they whence they went. They went after man afford awaited. It was. It was bizarre, nor the fact is it. He wasn't bad intelligent and he didn't have that much to say or do about. This, he was trying to make some money in your brain. What about the fact that this week, Do they Alexey now about me he's one of in opposition leaders, and Russia was poisoned, will see. Also, this requires investigation wherein
we're in a moment in time when anything anything against about China or Russia is being broadcast loudly today to the american people. We were very effective western media. That does this all the time you to go back and you have been sceptical in the past and ask why do we need enemies? Why do we need these enemies when we want to make this into an issue? Why well by some people using Paypal? people and associated your name with conspiracy? I've never seen you that way. I mean the conspiracy. Very really with J F K is, I think, The Americans would agree that it was not a loan gunman, that's the can spare see as the Warren Report but we seem to be in a place now where the conspiracies hide in plain sight, with Trump I mean he's too. To take this election, you know even bond villains, only tell their plot
James Bond, this guy announces the whole world. He said the other day. Basically, I'm screwing with the post office, so the people can't mail in their balance. Listen, I'm not going me, I'm not voting for trumpet, and I he is a necessary figure and he was the wrong choice to be president. Can handle the job, gin and where I think people are seen through his personality, but to make our foreign policy dependent on attacking trump to get rid of trump And- and Creating a cold war environment with China and with Russia and with other countries is crazy, and this it's still Innovation is not a policy, so they're looking for everything possible to build up this. Russia James Bond doctor, no scenario, you think the Russians.
So I've been over there a lot. Do you think they sit around think about America's all the time they don't care, they got their own problems, they have a country that is fibre and they want to make it. They have a lot of issues like we do there they're, not thinking about our election, as you think we are we ourselves self obsessed with our own issues that we can understand that other people don't look at it the same way I think about it. But meanwhile keep in mind Billy, you know damn well how many elections have we interfered with yet how many countries in the world feared with with money and all kinds of dirty tricks, Well, I was just a double standard here. You are here, you are always one of the most fascinating Paypal I get to talk to and just Are you kidding I with it? You can't go with a group in group. Think No, I understand believe managing for yourself. Ok, I'm trying are,
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There is really on a Tuesday it's that they tried that trick every time, in fact, this November really want your voice heard boycott the election not voting at all. In fact, remind you of the key instructions for election day that I gave you two years ago. Leave your house on November. Sixth, for any reason, even to buy vape juice. If you have a basement, go there or better get in the trunk of your car, close it and don't leave for whatever reason just stay in the trunk of your car. Until you hear from me, stay in the trunk J in the trauma J in the triangle. Do somehow get the poles. My fellow q and honours, of course go with pride and pull the lever for the one man that can make America great again Conway West.
Ok, that's how shall I want to thank my guess. John casing rub the rubber active William, Barbara, the second Thomas, Frank and Oliver Stone we'll be back next week from the studio. Hi tone, new episode of real time with Bill Maher every Friday night at ten or watching any time on HBO on demand for more information log on to HBO dot com,
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