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Ep. #550: Michael Eric Dyson, Alex Wagner

2020-11-21 | 🔗

Bill’s guests are Michael Eric Dyson, Alex Wagner and Jon Meacham. (Originally aired 11/20/20)

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lastly populated paper bag- I now it's I last saw I appreciate that. Thank you very much simpler doing what you had to do to get in. There is our last year with the season, and it has been seventeen days them since the election trumpet still behaving like a psycho beauty.
pageant queen. Not let go of the d era. and this is also the last time I will see anybody publicly before How are they so merry and happy? Because it's been that not a year Mary Thanksgiving Thanksgiving was always when you picked out a tool in the afternoon just passed out on that Ouch now every day this year was that I, for now I am referring to this period in history, because we need a name for this. as the fattening, we had the great recession and then we had an economic expansion, and this is the pocketing that's what we aren't. I mean it. I was in a store, the other. It is depressing that the big hot novel,
toy item this year for the holiday, is, is Alfonso ventilator. This is I don't get this country the drum people. They don't want anybody to wear a mask because they say it's all about conformity. These are the same. People of one everyone to kneel nodded, fuck that joke in other people. They want to kick gather the country. If you weren't, you forget it, You get what I was trying to get there. It's the last euro disease, nine losing it, but but but they can all jumping alike, because, like now, because Democrats, who are always preaching wearing the masks like you're getting caught doing what were not allowed to do Nancy Pelosi did lorry Lightfoot did now Gavin Newsome. Here you see this. He was at some sort of birthday party into Ivan, eaten indoors.
Publicly citizens March, without a mask and at the table there were lobbyists from the cap. a your medical association, this like getting shit faced with mothers against drunk driving. Yes, let's keep it even, but you know they say there are two new vaccines that are coming and just in time for the holidays. This is this is big news. They say they are almost impossible to get. There is about a ninety percent chance of them working. Maybe I'm thinking of play station Oh, the President AOI Days Holiday Spirit. Here screening last night of his favorite holiday movie, how the Grinch stole Pennsylvania. This guy I mean it's just I mean. Did you see what team lunatic was
was putting forward this week. Ruddy Giuliani was out there, you have it quite a third act, but he's not look. Adverse dick and his bans he's out there is out there is trumps led lawyer goes all the regular lorries of great he's got a new theory about who fix the election. Venezuela Venezuela, apparently he says dominion. That's the voting machine company there actually out of Canada, but these as their own by another company, which is funded by the venezuelan associate of Hugo Chavez, who is dead. At this point, MSNBC just cut away to a cookie clock. Wait! Wait! That's not all Spain. Spain is involved here, but that is where they make the machines that
Zombie, Hugo Chavez. He begs that that within the vote got sent, he says to Barcelona, Spain, where they were fixed for binding and then sent back to the. U S at this point what are you just kneeled down like James Brown and two handlers, came out and put a strait jacket on and then the judge said order in the court, and would he said tanker ray and technically and then things got weird I'm gonna show your picture now, but warning the following may be disturbing to some viewers. Viewer suppression is advised.
This is what happens. This is what happens when Dracula gets out of the coffin too early. In the day I mean access, Herod Guy get other trumpery polarization. These colours don't run; sometimes they do they didn't even Jeffrey Tupid was, like God, that's embarrassing arrive. Every time we got a great show. I live here, God made seven Alex like here. First up my good friend he is. I distinguish, professor of african American studies and ethics at Vanderbilt University now and author of long time coming reckoning with race in America, Michael Eric Dyson. How are you doing, then? I'm pretty fervour squares this, my negative. We will things were going through all the stuff you have to do to you can just in time. I think we're closing down soon yea shutting down men on the curfew, so I just media think we're goin off the adjusted to the right of veto be better next year, but I wanted to ask about this year. First of all, I mean your book great book ready quickly. It's a great work, red, serious stuff, of course,
but we are twenty twenty I mean twenty seventeen, zero Barbie wine scene and then the meat to movement, and that seems, like everything, changed to a degree with gender stuff, Franco Right, district we had a look back at twenty twenty that way. with race there s a great parallel to yet I thanks. So in this sense that George Floyd open the mines and eyes of so many other people. Now those of us who have been victimized by it historically and consistently some among us said were dying. You mean, like the slavery, part and the Jim Crow part in Yemen, the other stuff, but I go whenever people wake up, they wake up whenever they become aware they become aware- and I think Look we're all at home, those of us who could afford stay at home with the pandemic and we're looking at our screens anyway, and when George Floyd's image flashes occur
What's the horizon of many of these devices, it was a stand, and many white brothers and sisters said wait. So black people live in. Making claims women like well, ok, you must have said something you must have acted or misbehave, but my guy, We can see here prostrate on the ground. A black man means, harm to no one being the recipient of. Eric Children's necked, his mortally depressed column, his neck beings. Queasiness fixated for no good reason- and I think that shook America to its core And not just America, people all over the world were responding, and you think this is more about racism and policing. What I think the two go hand in hand. I think it's about the persistence of what now here, become a term systemic racism, and I think it's about the fact that police people have way out of control for too long when it comes to african, american and latino beep
where a comparison of the Euro my age, Gimme, comparison of Eighteen? Eighty, two thousand, two thousand twenty I mean there's some difference or others Adele. Well, nineteen eighty you ve got the rise of Ronald Reagan Ray and here, anyone like with policing right well, but I'm saying so with regular, is in general, you get were right doesn't general right, you look, you got law and order stuff, you get nix, Twenty years before talk my law and order, then nineteen, eighty of the river, the risk, the restoration of an american society that had gone off the rails, people perceives Ronald Reagan, was there to police, I can to order you think about two thousand. What happens? You know. Jesse Jackson has run a couple times for the presidency. People have said a look their different avenue. there's an possibilities that are now await to us. But then you had the fight.
against affirmative action in the courts and then, when you think about even ten years ago into in ten. You know we're in the second year of the presidency, a Barack Obama, so that was a huge if that was the Gutenberg shift in the consciousness of american culture, that now this black man can be the face of a man. The avatar of american democracy, the embodiment of the noble aspiration James Madison and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson is now this Sunkist son of Amerika, who embodies best ideals and the noble aspirations, but at the same time, beneath it all, you have this undercurrent of the mistreatment ordinary, everyday black people and the police, and I can tell you bill. I didn't write about it in this book. I've written about another places. I've been victim of that kind of brutality for most of my life and it is become rooting for many of us ten into put your hands on their put your while it on the dashboard. You tell your kids be as look in a lot of
people have to do this to, but we have to have a special attention paid to that be extremely careful we deferential, because we want you to get out with your livelihood. What I'm asking you is the difference between like from now in twenty years ago. Right your answer, might be, there is none. I want to know that because, like I think look there is a difference. but there's a difference in awareness of people, seeing that the police have mistreated black people consistently look, we can trace it back. Seventeen hundreds when the slaves get started. The sleigh patrols in Virginia sense, that time, I'm telling you Martin Luther King Jr, talked about police brutality, nineteen sixty three in March and washing speech, so Things have shifted in terms of awareness, possibility of black, upward mobility, we're getting along better Rodney kings answer. Can't we all get along with some of us get along better in some places, but I'm saying the lethal persistence of anti blackness in this country has been a constant drumbeat that has accompanied the Social, Dan,
the black people in many areas in America, that's the reality. What s the hurt you I mean in an era when the last chap, if you're broke all white comfort, you haven't, you will write, you acknowledge that there this diversity and thought, no doubt in the black. minute. No doubt extra. I assume you are for that. Absolutely ok, So I mean I've heard a lot of I've had some of them on the show common use, noisier community philosopher John Mc Water, Professor, like you talks about the religion of anti racist We wouldn't agree with everything you're saying he says we never been less racist. Now that doesn't mean arisen, so races, my brain but what it? What is your view of that view? Look, I think, look german border. a friend of my birth, smart guy, our respect, all the people, talk about. They don't really
the masses of black people number one. They don't represent the basic believe, a black people and here's the plan most likely but want more policing, not less. I was about to say black people are culturally conservative their. Unlike look, I don't represent the mainstream if you will of black thought when it comes to things like that, as an ordeal bab as minister for forty years, I've seen some of the step that goes on in these churches. Now black community say look, we want people to protect us, we want What we call the cops, though the cops not to this not to fail to distinguish us from the criminals and the problem is black people. Although the cops anyway, if you want get down to who calls the cubs black people look Mama I told you, I want those biscuits butter, I'm calling the captain you right now, so the thing is- and you ain't that Iraq, but the point is that we want, when the cops show up, not to direct a common ordinary interchange, between two human beings into some. Unlike the what do I mean so when the cop step
Sandra blamed for a traffic signal or something on our car in it up she's in jail, hung two days later Walter Scott down in South Carolina. He stopped because his left turn signal was wrong and the guy ends up shooting them. So ordinary interactions that many why brothers and sisters can take for granted end up in death for black people so get a lot of black people. Dont want the police to be abolished but bill. And I know that that term Jim Kleiber others have said. Hey, that's the definition. You talk about abolition. Do you know that eighteen fifty most why people were not in favour of abolition of slavery, so things do change So the thing is: is that argue interested in the commercial other products, for whatever language gets us over, I'm not I'm, not a stickler for its abolition. in his verses reformers. I just want the fact that police, People seem to consistently and repeatedly murder kid maim harm and destroy black life with wants the abandonment without being held to account and when they do they have
Well, I didn't unity that protects them, but I have a member doing editorials about the police than I was sure was get me a separate on this show. Five years ago, even and and part of the point I was making was there is never any repercussions that now there have been now you go down the list and lots of police have been put in jail tried. and found guilty for stops I mean you. What did well a few more failure is not an ideal. Dynamic is not a tsunami. Ok used to be none, no doubt in that's pretty amalgamated. You can't put the knife in my back: nine just pull it out. Six inches in Cardiff Progress. Well, it has ever been announced. No, no! I'm I'm acknowledging that there has been some progress, but do you will the overwhelming majority of black people live in fear of the Brown James, whose a rich guy place where the l, a Laker says we live in terror, against what the police will do. to us. That's a reality that I think many wiper haven't seen until these snuff films. The pornography of black death is repay
in the cinema of of black existence in these found show us that nobody with hands up gets. Hands now get shot, speaks of the police. Saucy way, shut, don't say anything at all get shot, no matter what we do, the crime is not. What we do is who we are in The reality that we have to confront when it comes to police, brutal, Well, I think you always clear pushed back their amazing me, its banks. I wish we could have dinner. Is we use? It didn't work out a little bit next year in Jerusalem, glaring eyes? That's all there is the author on his truth is marching on Jean Louis in the power of hope. The occasion
The advice. Is President Elect Biden, John Major means over here John Major, chiefly contributing right for the Atlantic and the cost of executive producer of show times the circus Alex Wagner. Ok, so gotta start with my favorite topic drop, not leaving it. Seventeen seventeen days after the election and the leader of the ruling party keeps insisting very one. In a landslide against his opponent, the Joseph Biden shrank and the past courts it are. We still have courts that seem to be working right because they keep saying you. We can't allowed this claim of fraud because there's no fraud and little things about legality and evidence of that JANET Alice Jenna hours we had with protein.
employer. We had IRAN last week. She said with Rudy this week and great this Your question is fundamentally flawed when you're asking. Where is the evidence? Rudy said when I went to bed on election night, he was ahead and all those states. How is it they all turned around first of all ready, we know you sleep in the day unto my question to you: is we cut back on the show January five days? Where are we on January, fifty you're not gonna, have a concession, Donald Trump. Various, let's makes was it dies. Oils is trying to stage a coup right now. Gambling is trying to undermine the result of a democratic, free and fair election. I'm trying to throw out legally cast boats so that he can. When I mean, I think we need to be assessed is it about what we are undergoing as a country right now I see no future in which he concedes. I think you,
will probably avoid having to deal with the White House exit and turn over to Joe Biden some creative way, but you can bet there will be a rally. There will be some kind of public event. There will be probably some for some sort of trompe. Indeed, back to White House somewhere else in the country man is not going to say that he lost ever so. We'll have like to popes like the rumours to Pope's more Margo meets. Having your exact not have happened to write a good, that's what I think the future is key to how many of trumps Voters, all seventy million or so of them are going to follow that papers and I think the reason that so few relatively few republicans have spoken out about this. I mean a sort of the Marx brothers did a coup, and so it's easy because it's it seem so incompetent to make fun of it.
But this is administration ministries in whose fundamental incompetence has led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the most significant weakening of institutions that, however, flawed have produced by and large, more perfect union, given the most dress and strains is the eighty sixties. So it's a it's easy, be amused by by Rudy, but we're just lucky that our authoritarian or so incompetent- I remember everybody's incompetent. It wasn't just trump that lead to those debts. He certainly did his part right word, incompetent country. Well, that's true unhealthy one eye to say, though I spent a considerable amount of time with these local election officials, especially those in Pennsylvania. These are civil servants who spent a lot of time a lot of energy and a lot of others trying to make sure that this election came off,
they hit ended a dead, it's our one further in our camp, but that I mean that matters, because if tromp had been able to find any opportunity to say there's right here, even without it, but here's the problem rubies said in his statement What we are seeing is a massive influence of communist money from Venezuela, Cuba and like, we China. These are just buzzwords that his people here, ok, so there. the mega march on Saturday. Ok, I mean it some people interviewed there. They think fit to a person. They think he won the election. That there will be a miracle where he will still Stayin Office, if not it stolen, because he is the rightful each of the seven kingdoms. Here are the stats. Eighty eighty eight percent of Trump voters DINKY won the election for fifty percent of Republicans all Republicans. What what do these people
this is over this like, seventy million Americans, which sounds to me like a if they dont think that president, whose called? Is real? That's a fifth column. That's a large fifth column in America What did they do? How does a country talk about not house not being able to survive in us? God Spanish cannot stand the. I think this is the key question for all of us, because what we, done is we have managed to as a country. Consign reason to the sidelines we dont think anymore. We feel and that's a large part of a pandemic tragedy is, I don't feel like wearing a mask. I don't feel like listening to a doctor. I don't feel like listening to experts. Well, we don't really care, and indeed the purpose of the enlightenment.
is that your faults and data in fact would at least have a chance against feelings and emotions and passions and appetites and ambitions, and we ve done pretty well long time with that, not great, which basically happened. I think broadly is that you know nineteen sixty four historian, Richard half Stutter, wrote a book ass. I call the paranoid style in american politics. It is this recurring Suspicion, as you laid out there, is a larger conspiracy out there of unseen forces, because people have fundamental human need to believe that there are these secret forces that are arrayed against them. and every moment is Armageddon every mode is existential, and so therefore, compromise is not possible and What's happened is the paranoid style, which was the John mergers in,
Sixty four has widened to a huge swathes of the country and the big task for all of us- and I think it's a task of citizenship and talk. India, neighbours and chest actually trying to say look there is such a thing is backed, but it's been aided and abetted by a conservative media. the chamber that has only internet John Birch has to come to your house with a pamphlet. the memory it out I mean I spent the entire fall talking to trunk voters. They lie a parallel universe. They do have alternative facts. They are fed. Those facts are fed them in a systematic for profit way by the Murdoch family by right, media outlets and by the unleashed concern primitive echo chamber online. I mean that putting that Jimmy back in the bottle is going to the actual, I would say the only person in this country who has the power to really change the direction of this country is Rupert Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch
because you know Trump is already trying to peel people away, because Fox NEWS is kind of divided about him, but there have certainly been critical and some people have called the election for four Biden. If and it looks like Murdoch is doing, it looks like he is, throwing his lot in with reality right for a change. a lot of the Fox viewers will stick with thought. They'll be divided but ice. I think Rupert Murdoch, more than any one else, holds the fate of this country in his hand, and rarely have in Australia, fucking the war here now I feel about Australian always slightly on your couch and trying to steal your girlbride world. The world is flat, speaking for myself here, not not for any, but transition or anything, but we do have is a shot here. If the guy
remain, and the private sector under a President Biden, can take care of the pandemic. There is actually a case study here, I'm not saying it's gonna be a panacea, but if there is competence, if if there are any of them, vaccine timetable works. You may have a moment where people will be able to look at the institutions which theirs skeptical right now and say well, things are getting a little better. This election was now that far outside the historical mainstream in terms of the margin, I think, when things that well amazing my amaze you're right it resembles need to get over- that. I think right, liberal about then, to look at why they ve. So many people consider that detoxified. That was my editorial last week. We would get back into, but there are many reasons. Biden comes in with a larger percentage of the popular vote. Then Truman Kennedy Nixon in sixty eight one in seventy six Reagan, eighty.
also one more clear neither time he did, but he didn't but finds that fifty one percent, so just you, and we can look back on that one we are, I got if we are honest with fifty one considering what they had to look out for viewers. I bet you, you look yeah. I know you love this image preaching to the choir here. I get that, but it is a fifty one percent country we killed seven hundred and fifty thousand people to abolish slavery. It does not occur. We didn't have a conference of the nineteen entry, Brookings institution and say hey, I think I'll, do that without a substantial percentage of the whole country at that time. Yes, I grew up. Region where, until fifty two years ago, we lived under legalised apartheid at the ballot box, in our water, not so
about so here. Let's, therefore, let these folks let this stuff go, but let's have some sense of proportion I do now. I think you know we have a battle right now against an unseen enemy and one side has no interest in fighting it for completely partisan reasons. I mean that is a craven this than the inability be an action that the dismissal of covert nineteen as a deadly virus is just tells you the ends to which there are. A book party and Donald Trump will go to preserve a sort of partisan worldview and that it You know I mean, maybe the bid, the distribution of the vaccine and the veto getting out a masks next year will help things, but I Donald Trump as can be on the sidelines, eight claiming credit for it. The entire time from his followers were believe that, and I have a hard time imagining they're gonna come back into the fold of institutional democracy, despite the fact that institutional democracy will have saved their lives
I mean if there's going to go around everywhere. Let's go find us on some parts everywhere, amazing. How many people have been trying to be lately? I can't wait till two thousand and twenty is over as if, when the calendar turns over that is how the virus will still be here. Trump will still be here. Ok he's he could be worse. Pissing outside the tent in I mean just for one thing: he's going to have he's going to be the ultimate kingmaker he's got You have a veto power if we get em out, if you could have a veto power over every single republican candidate, but almost everyone, if you get the Donald Trump treatment you know you're not gonna get it devotes. That's a scary proposition America held hostage yeah. Well, I Donald Trump is the Republican Party. We should stop separated, he is the Republican Party, but I don't think
ever Brad someone who could do that any. This is our last show of this Amis horrible and you know it so funny they, the parrot, I always think of you and Elizabeth. The second welcome to the crown- and I was thinking of you when I use a Latin, for it- is not that off yet back, but abolition amazed that people said to me and I had the kind of agree or like out what a terrible year. Then they got up and went so fast and a kind of did, and I and I thought to myself yeah. You know what I'm a hundred. If Live that long want to remember this year. It was terrible, but it was me verbal and it was not like anything else, so I I mean Oh a video to myself to future me because heavier born one, I'm a hundred other knows so, I'm for myself to remind myself of what this year was when I'm a hundred, but I think it I'd show a deal
what would you like to see it? I said okay, but a little video I made to my hundred year old self. Hey their future me if you're watching this congratulations are making it to a hundred soon you'll be old enough to watch Fox news anyway, I'm reaching out to you because I figure at a hundred. After all the pot we smoke. mine was be like. Soup You probably have Zobeide your shirt right now, Look if there ever was a year that people are going to want to hear about it. it was Plague Europe, twenty twenty and bell. You live, throw it here. I said you're going to want to remember some of this, because it was a pretty special type. The in March we have one inside everybody all the time
because we may not have had toilet paper, but we They raw determination to get back on the air and your intrepid produced which came through and put Mahomet home back and on box office. Thank you. for back yards and man caves,
You used every square inch of your home, your own home adverse shooting the whole show on nothing, but an Iphone interviewed senators, congressmen and mayors from a chair in front of a cut out of tromp, giving the figure to fade away from us preferable. This really happen. There were lots of challenges, nickel, whether doing your own make up, but always wearing a fresh. It's what you always had in the studio, so people out there with no what view virus, but the big one. How do you do model on company when you have no audience bill? You, son of a bitch, you got superhighway night, figured it out. Finally, after five months to get back to the just in time to see Joe Biden get away with something the hundred said. No one could have predicted. I don't see him leaving willingly. I dont see him leaving. He is not going to leave. No I'm the guy says anything he's not gonna leave. Even if we lose is, I don't think he's leaving he's not going to leave these not leaving. I don't think he's leaving I'm right and you won't leave these not leaving he's not going away he's not leaving he's not going to leave well old timer, I hope the Trump or even more dreadfully when I was asked whether he is president of your watch and most of all, I hope you remember a grateful. You were to the entire intrepid unbreakable staff in real time for pulling miracles out of their ass every week into the folks at home, for letting us do what we do here. Both sides honest in good times and even when the audience was really there, they were there were there for them. Whenever we have a break, we are born in December. We have one in the summer. We really do future headlines
this is what we did in June. I just wanted to show you, because sometimes they really come true. So we're gonna put that up online this year that we their shortly ok. So let me ask you about Georgia, because Georgia seems be the proxy war for all the marbles, but sent even go into Why Georgia's having this run off? But they are there, is Fifty two republican senators right now, forty eight Democrat. If the epidemic- that's when those two seats and the run off his on January fifth, then they get the Senate because the ties broken by vice president com Loris. drunk calls a communist monster and he is not given to hyperbole. So this like super important. This is what Is this? Why someone either
Applicants will not break with him because it's about the Senate, because if you don't win the Senate, the whole thing is almost pointless. Putting Biden in their Mitch. Mcconnell. Just going to want to make him a one term. President he's gonna want to attack. The economy is going to rediscover the deficit Georgia all about getting those two seats in Georgia and other and missed investment opportunity was buying a tv station in Atlanta. So you can see the adult going forward as you could you could do it did not another problem, Georgia's the new floored, it's the pivot point, its really interesting state. The north part is tat you can in country from the way back and ninety two were dead. Collins came from, you have the pet. How much poetry is, as you have the pastor of ebony, Baptist Church in kings, pulpit in John Louis's district standing,
in a year where more people voted and without that turn out without by the way, the most police, the Democrat run again and the most important person of twenty, twenty, I would argue, is Jim Kleiber. Definitely without Jim out within five endorsing Joe Biden. Donald Trump would be president for real, not just in his own mind The living about the Georgia raises: it's gonna, be an uphill climb for Democrats that if you look at the numbers from the election in a vampire Biden, one the stay by amassing a really broad coalition, not just of the democratic base, but of peeling off moderate Republicans who just want to drop out of office, but that same group of Republicans did not vote for down ballot. Democrats- John Ass, if when the Democrats who is going into this run off race, got a hundred thousand fewer votes than Joe Biden right and that
the people are saying get Trump out, but bind doesn't get at the two Republicans running or both criminal activity. I mean I or maybe criminalize word that they were the objective, but everyone is: is this per do David producer who used to run dollar general and the other one was Kelly Laughter who hunt whose husband owns the stock exchange it, sounds like a joke about rich people in an item removing that's a real thing. The owns the stock exchange other to regular down folks anyway, they were both privy in January to the reports coming out of the government how bad corona virus who's gonna be, and they were.
Therein told the suckers that it was all ok and then dump their stock in stuff. That was going to be effected like casinos that we're going to shut down that sank into effect, devote at meaning it didn't in and in the first half ass I mean I think there is a real appetite on some parts of the moderate base. That's gonna be critical and this race not to the democratically controlled Senate and White House, and it's gonna, be a very hard k, Brujon ASA and Raphael Warnock. To make that this event handing Joe Biden the keys to the king- that we all know, it's really important, hundreds of others, the Republican Party, function with this coalition now of q and on which Europe is really the force, that's where the energy is, and they Charles coax. You don't Charles the court brothers. He said last week he's very rueful about his past supportive of reports. apparently now he's like boy. We made a big mistake because apparently you know
Frankenstein monster got out of control there a little bit how these two going to co exist, the greedy Traditional republic, it and the Democrats a baby's repulse, it's a fabulous question, because you have the sort of the respectable republican view and awaited the justified. I think I bet the Georgia Republicans did this over their world. I bet there were more than a few Georgia. Republicans hoop We voted for Biden and then voted for the Republicans down the Senate on this idea that somehow another Joe Biden who, by the way is about as much of a socialist as my Springer spaniels a meeting is there actually mania tendencies that day they are more communist than than Joe Biden is. But this is a respectable thing we what divided government, because we want- I you know I just think once every man, a nation, comes a moment to decide- and this is an existential moment in American Democratic Lowercase de history and we have one more shots
this the voters of Georgia have one more shot to get this right. By sending these democrats to this- and this is the inner Biden ran on you're hurting help is on the way and Trump ran on other things great, and yet, I'm reading the as the returns back and we get the more detailed analysis of what happened in the election Trump one in places where people are suffering and by and one in places where things are going great. It should be the opposite. That's fucked up this country is I dont think policy matters anyway. I don't think they should ask that question. Are you better off than you were four years ago? Doesn't matter to them? Well, it's just what their voting I mean. People are voting on money, though everything. That's when you asked a question about what is the Republican Party, this sort of polite establishment, Republicans who are still in bed with a party that hosts q and on supporters there there, because they think they're they're going to be able to hold on to me
or of their money at the end of the day, and they are willing to basically make a deal with the devil on literally every other front, because they think they're tax rates gonna stay well, I mean, I truly think that is the title lines at this point between the establishment, upper class, educated Republicans and the base of people who have John. So far down the conspiracy, rabbit holder, they can see that we know about taxes here and go for it. No, I would say we were under tat. This is not an original point to me, but I think in this could be a cause for you partisanship as this If we become religious right, we have structural parts, you have your own holy books, you have your own, saviours? You have your own view: the world drone cosmology. You have people who were hard hard core, yet people show up on Christmas, Easter, no tax day and water and so does the sea in Christian? Is the tax day both from an
therefore rationality, that is, that that is working through the data, is then shoved to the side, and I think is. I think this is much more about culture and identity. Then economy and health right now. Well, there's also demographic change and I think we're at a hinge point demographically right where one tribe point patriarchy is on the down slope and an ascendant brown tribe, it's at the gates- and I think tromp has six so we stopped a lot of fear around that change, which is happening which is existential, witches, darwinian and a lot of respects, and this is the after effects of that fear and that anxiety about you know a change in what it means to be an American and what this country actually looks like yeah he's question is whether it is the last gasp right of the patriarchate or is there more to come? And here is more to come, but so how
how long and what happens to this broad anxiety. How does it manifests Anne and what about just the structural problems? We have that. I would just like to start with the top drew in my book. the Electoral College and the Senate where's. We seem to be consigned because of what we were just talking about the way the demographics are changing, I mean by it's going to win this by seven million popular, but I don't see the republican presidential candidate, winning the popular vote ever again and the Senate, of course, is run by Republicans that they have it took about rigged. You know cause again. My pet pave the Dakota territory gets four and California, with forty million people had to admit it is so we're going let it be consigned to this. At least some. My minority rule that structural
problem number one and the other is just Eddie accuracy that people just get dumber and dumb Tommy I mean there's a guy Tommy to Brazil. He just got elect The Senate in Alabama does not know the three branches, of government. This is like the most fundamental question. You can ask anybody, immigrants who take the test or, like me, I'm I'm not asking the next week. was the house, the Senate and the executive. I mean and then the killing on lady and did the baby eaters that are coming in to power. I dont know how, if the teachers are stupid, how the kids gets me You know, I just don't know how we overcome structural changes may be handing out not only that minority robots minority rule by a party that has shown itself to have no governing agenda
other then obviously, asian intransigence stonewalling liberals cross their words. What is the Republican Party, and yet we need to reckon how would it what it is, because it is going to play the dominant role in american bias in the forthcoming future? I mean, I think it I don't mean to be told only the most negative person in the world but know President Obama was talking this week about why people turned to America and its not just because we export all these wonderful cultural ideas, but it's also because we are the litmus test for self governance, and in this moment this is what it looks like we're. Not experiment and self governance begins to fail make their phone, but this is what this is where you, but we are self govern It is only as good as we are, and so this structure itself is relevant, but politicians is the honest politicians are mirrors of who we are. They are much more than they are right and that
I'm scared one minute left tell me something hopeful dumping, optimistic someone, optimistic hopeful thing and then I'll say mine. I thought of it, now. This is the great question and the season with tell me something hopeful. John. The the end of the year is coming where we like. I think that the fact that Joe Biden. One the same for some popular vote, more Ronald Reagan, more than Clinton, more than Truman, more than Jack Kennedy suggests that we are a fifty one percent country and where they may just be fifty one percent, but he is president and tromp is only president. Is an Rudy smile, big thing. Actually, I think we ve lost sight of this trial. He might at the beginning,
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and finally know we're by its last show of the rules, tonight. I would like to tell you- and I would like to tell you a tale of Doktor, William Miller. The american preacher was teaching spawned these seventh day adventures religion up today in the nineteen century Miller grown enormous following by telling anyone had listen that he could by really the Bible and then applying his own math. predict the exact date for the second coming. Jesus is big return to show business which good news, bad news also meant the world. coming to an end,
Picking in the early 1840s forties, William Miller's rallies attracted thousands of people all focused on this. One idea that the world is going to end on his predicted date of October, twenty second eighteen, forty four- that is four- that the world would Come to an end, smaller alert, it didn't Christ totally blew them off. This goes to show up and just flaked. typical. Now, when you stick your whole religion on one all important prophecy, that doesn't come true. The logical react. from Follerin should be back, as that was a bunch of bullshit. No, no. This sect double down and to this day refers to October twenty second eighteen, forty four as the great disappointment
because of course is disappointing when the world doesn't then, but the important thing is that you didn't let your faith be shaken in the guy who got it did wrong by now you're saying bill what the fuck does this have to do with what's going on in the world today, Well recently, there has been another large group of people who had a great disappointment. there are long, and the challenge for us is: how do you get people out of a cold, especially when every time you present evidence of what is obvious reality? They take it as proof of this being in on a conspiracy to destroy them and for The answer to that question we must here to, I am sure many of your body. guess who I'm going say now. Catherine oxen Burke
yes, Catherine, auction Burg, actress, star of Dynasty european royalty and lady in front of you at whole food Catherine auction very because she's got somebody out of a cult, and I know about seventy million other Americans. I'd like to talk to. Now, if you don't know what I'm referring to Catherine Oxen Burg was recently featured in not one but two documentaries about occult called next year, that brainwashed, her daughter, India next to him was led why a con man now serving a hundred and twenty years name: Keith, Granary, a vanguard. The name he gave himself Vanguard and, as such watching this documentary. I couldn't stop thinking that Rainier. It I mean Vanguard. reminded me of someone, but I couldn't let my finger run, who, for example, like most caught leaders, then
had an extraordinary need to be surrounded by asked liquors telling them how Grady was has your a part of my life in it's my life. I dont have words to tell you how much it has a heartfelt tribute to vanguard. You mean it possible for us to grow ourselves every day into the people that we want to be a very amazing man in many many many ways who did that remark? probably standing next to thank you, President Tromp, for allowing us to have you, as our president you're living up to every everything I thought you would your one heck of a leader, oh yeah, that guy
the one who is also always bragging about what ingenious ie is, but I'm smarter than I'm smarter than anybody. I'm, a very stable genius, Donald trumps, there very large, a brain, we'll get this vanguard. Followers believed he was demonstrably single smartest person in the world because he told them He told them you spoken full sentences. Wanting was one and also then he invented his own math. Just like Factor William Miller and both trumps, vanguard status as cult leader, sprang from their creation myths as off the charge business of when in reality, then its consumer byline business was apparent,
scheme shut down by the state of New York and about successful as the three casinos trump drove into bankruptcy in the nineties. both started fake schools and then there The fact that both men were such unrepentant sex creeps, they literally could not stop themselves from bragging about it. If we conquer, a woman. If we grab the thing we want to fuck whatever it is and fuck it, and if we do whenever we want, and they like it, your star, they let you do it. You can do anything whatever you grab by the pussy. yeah you didn't notice that seem rather parallel to me and, like all called leaders, they had to have that one queen bee around them who they deputized to recruit others into their sick games, Vanguard, had small Vill actress, Alison MAC Trump has Linsey ground,
and you know when you're fighting a called you're, not just fighting the leaders, but all the enablers. who's to you as an enemy. Truth is a threat to them. That's why? What after an auction burg did was so instructive. I've heard The phrase hate the sin love the centre. Will she practice hate the called love the contest She didn't scream at her daughter. She was stupid, The cut arrive. She just kept. I remind her of who she used to be. I think we're Try that on cue went on you know the ones who believe that rich liberals are running a massive pedophile ring at eight babies and in some cases, are really lizard people, where human mask
and they were a sure, the trump was going to win reelection- is doctor. Miller's followers were that the world was going to end in eighteen, forty four. They were told to trust the plan. The Trump get a second term devoted to busting democratic sex trafficking ring. But now message boards we can see. They have doubt and despondency. One of them wrote my faith is shaken. I followed the plan. Trump lost. What now? What now opportunity to lift the scales from their eyes, but it's not going to from mocking them, calling them stupid or makings. Remarks like a couple of hours really is a lizard person. Why didn't you
that's? Why I'm MIKE Pence's head? Don't care that I'm saying don't do that? The really one more and then, rather, if you have Trump relatives over for Thanksgiving understand, they have been through a traumatic event. Their savior their strongest smart martyrs, manliest hunk of a leader rubber lived, just got, has asked kick I need two thousand year old man. Don't gloat, don't even try to argue, because arguing with called people only makes it worse if there is hope, it's not in any of the words that were communicated its in here.
and so it is for me to all of you in the audience. Thank you so much to put up with so much just to be here all the folks who helped make this possible during this trying time through role with it. So well, my brilliant staff. Thank you all want, especially everyone at home here is open for a better next year, couldn't have got through this one without you. Thank you. Very much. Thank you. John MIKE Tyson went back January, gave me necessary having Friday night watch him any more information, not behind each bio dot com,
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