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Do you today by the one and only societies and on this I ain't, Haydn man, good em
I'm getting by chilling, you know getting by SAE is one of my best friends, but it's also a fantastic producer here at gimlet I eat a lot of interesting shows like conviction or uncivil
The reason that we talking here today right aid is because your vows
new short again about the ongoing black lives matter protest and it's called resistance
so the additional about people refusing to accept things as they are right, light ass, a tagline foreign but more
It's a show about black and brown,
people fighting for it
kind of change right yeah before I started working on it, I never knew I would be working on something like this. I never saw myself working on something like this. I just want to say that- and I say this with love, because I'm your friend and I
totally explain what I mean by this, but, like I did not see working on this show, I have to say
and the reason we must say. That is because this, of course, is a show about protest movement. Aha, an I dunno dude
this thinking back to like like when the George Floyd protest like first began right.
remember that we gave cause. I remember I tried to talk
about what was going on, and you want an absolutely no part of it like you did not want to talk about the predict movement at all yeah. I was like
actually I'm kind of depressed right now with everything that was happening in the world like it by people getting killed? I just felt like I needed
make like a conscious decision to disengage and take some time for myself and like
does not touch any other shit because the site it's too much yeah you basically just like looking at
yeah. I had to delete it twitter off. My phone and I wasn't watching anything- I wasn't really reading anything like you made sense to me because me, because you protecting yourself, but
So just remember thinking was gonna, be like futile talking about what work we're gonna be like that weak and Edison under realizing. Oh, my God, there is about to be a meeting. Some
our majority white workplace in which we're gonna have to like have ideas for stories, and
also at the same time, probably have to attend meetings and talk about everything. That's been going on, like with all of our colleagues- and I just remember I was just like that- is not something I want to do yeah I was
so dreading that I wasn't even dreading at me. I was just like that meeting is gonna be stupid yeah, which is why I feel like the next time he told off of that. I was like kind of surprised because
You called me and were like hey, so I'm gonna start a show. That is essentially gonna, be about the protests.
Want my money back.
Why did you go from from
man, I'm not going to talk about this at all. Really to that yeah I mean after a while, I re downloaded Twitter just seeing like
these headlines about. Some of the largest protests in the country were being led by like teenage girls or like people in their early twenties
That was interesting to me. That was super interesting to me, because I was around the age when I protest for them.
Time. Ever in my life, like I feel like, I see,
myself a little bit more like I can want to see, was going on over here. Yeah. Let me just say I feel like: what's a special about resistance is like we get to see you make this transition.
From not wanting to talk about any of this to being so inside of his movement in an incredibly intimate way like yeah, you you're with people whenever protesting, but your also with them like law, the cameras of last year in their homes, urinary favorite, bars your chronicling people making
of these life changing decisions feeling all of these conflicting emotions of fury triumph in frustration. You know your quantum um people, basically as they try to meet the magnitude of this moment with every labor, their being yeah. And it's I don't know it's really special, and so today on repliable we're going to feature one of these stories. It's one! That's really stuck of me since I first heard it so do you want to take
from here. I got you do this. You have been following this activists collective warriors in the garden. They mostly
black and brown folks in their s who got together during the George floored protest this summer and since then
they ve been grinding in New York City for the past five
once you couldn't really go to protest without seeing a warrior and after a while
point? They were marching every single day
ass to be rural myself.
There was no way I was gonna keep up.
Their events, I'm always always physically, physically and emotionally drained that I usually just fall asleep on the ride home and always me,
couple days to get myself back together again before I can. Even
fully recover. I see a post for another protests.
in police brutality, another vigil honouring black woman, another plan to keep the streets for, and the people fighting.
The warriors like they say we ve now here s a fact:
but always wonder how are they doing this?
have they been able to keep going so hard all summer
I was talking to one of the warriors about this. His name. Is
by Dereck and his answer was simple- was
it gets to be low too much they drink and lower east side. There's this spot that.
like five dollar martyr readers but they'd over poor dears.
As on nice off they like to get together
nice law bar and just kick it with a few drinks and he celimene.
This one night in August when they had endless cheap tequila, I had like a couple shots.
I have like two or three of those and I was slammed slammed had it fun like we were just
king outside, like we will have enough a blast, they dance, they try not to talk politics, they failed.
The point is they got the finally cheerful, once there told me
He drank so much tat night when he got home. He tried the cook a whole stake at three in the morning. The witch who can't really
either in going to bed till around four, but
he couldn't really enjoy his sleep because around seven in the morning he wakes up. What do you here at seven fifteen and knocked at the door boom boom boom? Dick drags himself out of bed to go see who it is?
I have like the chain the devil chain on. I look at my people short
I he asked like the
as I told my address
ass, my name and I told him my name a he is like
a warrant for your ass, the wholesome.
Derek's been protesting alongside the rest of the warriors. They've marched together, they've party together,
They poured milk onto each other's pepper, sprayed eyes and all do that Derek seen friends get arrested.
And he seen them beaten by cops, but on today's episode, Derek finds out what it's like on the full.
Wars of Nypd comes right to your front door
when there is no one to link arms with no
to hide behind when things get violet? What is it like when it's just you
the largest police department in the country from Gimblet, I'm sayin
John Thomas Jr, and this is Resistance- a show about review
to accept things as they are even with the hangover,
so at seven, a m and there's a carpet Derek's door
I have a warrant for your arrest and I was like okay slide it on the door. Derek looks down at the floor for the warrant, but he doesn't see anything
I just keep saying he's there to arrest him.
hung over. I was fed up another guy, I'm not I'm not dealing with this right now.
They'll just go away, so I went back
be called Kiara. I was the first person he actually called dusk
R Williams, another member of warriors in the garden. She was out with Derek the night before
to have a hangover and deal with what the situation was was like. Are you dress re? Now I told there
in that moment, Taiwan and group right now. This is serious.
I woke up because my friend was going off, Buzz, Buzz, Buzz, Buzz Buzz. I have been being being being binging. Pimping thing. Does I wait was happening there had his crape, you know when you hear about the police showing about a black person star, you know,
they're there to kill some of the warriors start checking their own windows and they start looking through holes to see
The cops are: their houses to
scared for him, I was scared for myself. They coming to my house
next. You knock at my door like this going to end.
When the rest of the warriors don't see cops at their doors, they star strategies,
about? How to Hell Derek
some of them, went ahead to his apartment, but others say what did the cops
expecting us to do that, and once we show up they just arrested
from the last episode comes up with another. I knew she instantly was like Alaska
I've come alive. Go live, everybody said, go live doc.
That, should I mean, if they're banging on your door lying about a warrant. People need to see it Derek agrees:
so he logged into the warriors Instagram Account, which are
following of over forty thousand people and he goes life here
sitting down in his living right next to his front door
wearing the same clothes he wore the night before a leather baseball cap and they
blue button down and a silver ring. It shines whenever he touches face, trying to figure out what to do.
I don't know what the fuck is going on. I look like
I have no idea what I did. So you get a mile and you know you get this
see the stress and panic on his face. Look like fear. I live
myself. This is scary like time to stop your game that'll accessory good morning,
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comes from the tradition of giving a peach to someone you like try it out with a friend it's true or not a leg, Warmandfuzzy Alexa. Thank you. Derek Alexis
things. It's a normal Friday and besides the of his door,
It could have been a normal Friday. His plan was asleep in this matter,
ass, the day cleaning his apartment. I was so
I was on fucking. Life felt like my apartment was dirty like I had a sink full of dishes. I smell like fucking tequila, it's
secondary committed to realise that the things that would normally matter on a Friday morning after a night of drinking don't really mean shit right now
The people watching on live already get that they not
about his dirty dishes. They worried about the cop of his door in the comments his friends tell him to go back to the door and ask for the warrant officer
going on? Do you have the war
now. What's the probable cost, sir, that was developed by the north? That's
investigation. He said
don't have a warm, but I have probably cause now that damn it here we go.
Is there a reason they haven't called me about this investigation? Is it active? It's active? Yes, so the cop says. Yes, it's active it's for
Salt, but Eric has no idea what he's talking about. Ok, that's, why
to detect me the be arrested, yes, how
If it's an ongoing investigation and I haven't been charged well, you get charged, you have to be arrested. Okay, oh Jesus
so there's that sitting back down in front of the camera Derek takes the cap off the gallon of water and start chugging. It Derek was sitting at his table. Looking stressed, this is Jay another
he's forty six years old and he's been protesting since since before some other members were born and huge
just days out the way, so the younger folks can lead, but the second
He's there can trouble. He knows yes, Steppin sounded like people were banging on his door,
That was all I had to see at that point. I shut off my phone and I think I washed up really quick.
We just put on whatever I had on and got on a city bike and went up. There
and when J shows up, he sees it
way more costs outside than just the one that there was talk into. I got there.
I was watching the general
and in the suits coming in and out in and out of the building. The uniformed officers had not gotten out of their police vehicle. Yet it was just
wearing clothes detectives and maybe people from the warm squad who, in those unmarked minivans
pulls out his phone
obvious way he can he starts filming
and then before you know it more police officers was showing up in more cars in more soon was showing up and people and military gear, James
the cops and know that someone is there to watch what they're doing any sending his video. So the good chat inside there,
in those people the fact became bag
They're like hiding down my hallway.
My my window, and there was like a,
up there he's a curse right across him
Hartman there was an officer and a window staring right back Adam. There was surrounding him.
Literally, they had a black officer.
Fire escape leg bro
Like you, black, come on like I'll, make
nothing happens to you and my yeah takes it and then another point
is like come on d come on. I got a
let me in what is
he's like come on man calling you d, like we
Some kind of like report
like he was gonna go report. How are you reacting to it? Not at all. I was
I had too much going on. I couldn't even process their like intimidation tactics and I thought the black thing was kind of funny. I was like. Are you
You really think, I'm that dumb that come come, come piss yeah, we're home. I got you at this point
Derek realizes that his parents don't even know what's going on, so he the first time my dad
because he doesn't know how to use energy. His first reaction was called the cops outside our use. Serious right now I was
You want me to cal the police on the police. What are they going to do like? He was dead ass? He was like no like bring a captain out. I was like
now it s? Not a word merit our man. This that's really interesting as, like my man, sir, but like that's, what does
parents. Tell you to do your Xilai, wait some bad avenant cortical. Unlike yet there's like an I'm sure, my darling. Yet there
three out of my window right now, one in my balcony, coupled with a billion across the street. He said- oh, my god, so now,
officers in the hallway officers with guys officer in empty apartments in it
ass for me there being it on my door there
peaking my curtains. I had to put up a sheet like there's over thirty officers here. I didn't know what to do at that point, so I felt like I can get rid of with bullets. If I open this fucking door, but I was,
thinking about fuck it I'm gonna put my body on the line is gonna, make a difference like I'm just open this door if they fucked me up like that, was a thought too. Like the short, the short is done,
for the car or getting her was definitely a thought briefly. Where do you think that came from that is
values. Mc Carol was their childhood friends,
together in Saint Louis, and it would want
charge can't blame pranks together, especially young girls.
Eric tells me that Thaddeus was such a goofy kid. He would blow
not bubbles with his nose
made, everyone laugh and disgusted
same time. He would do that
it. All. The time like in front of girls, we thought were attractive: bugger bubbles, the girls and middle daring,
daddy has lost touch for a while, but linked up years later after high school, it was twenty fourteen
the same year, Michael Brown, was killed by police and a suburb not too far from where they grew up. Derek says
Tadius wasn't really goofy anymore
now, when he and dare got together, wasn't pull pranks was to protest. We
winter protests together. I remember seeing those huge like military trucks
hang down street
and it was really bizarre because this is my home. I knew Ferguson its black
class in to see, tear gas and smoke and trucks and
alarms going off with
was insane values with was with me there the whole time unfortunate
He was struggling with, like
after the Ferguson Protests and twenty fifteen Thaddeus was at home when he started having an episode.
Locked himself in his house with a knife, and
is his mom did what Derek's dad has suggested? She called the cops after a long standoff. Daddy has open the door.
they came storm in outside and he was shot several times riddled with bullets, and that's how I felt like I felt like
was barricaded in here and if I surrendered the that I could have have met the same fate so yeah, that's
that's why I thought of him
coming up after the break a plan to save Derek.
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only four hours since the police officer showed up at Derek's door, claiming he had a warrant for his arrest and since then they still haven't shown him a warrant. They've just been knocking and trying to make him come out, so they can arrest him and a pretty sir
Harry Scene has started to form outside his apartment, building
cars and fans have pulled up a chopper is hovering overhead and is around thirty officers surrounding Derek's building in Hell's kitchen.
The lawyers calling me speaking inside
it's on the phone with a lawyer. She tells him since
Please don't have a war, you can ask them to leave, so he goes back to the door.
How does this king? He knew almost
and once you have a warrant or you just gonna stay there, because I don't think that's an option right for why you don't have a warrant. You have people work
okay, but until you have a don't, have a right to be here,
yeah. It's not a public space.
So why don't you just return until you have more at this point there
you know why they want to warrant a wise
Many of them have shown up in the first place,
all they told them is that its foreign assault,
he tells his lawyer. He thinks he just being targeted for filing complain.
Against police officers at their protest. A few weeks earlier,
it's all the result of me filing see. Our beef
this is all that is because
I've never threatened anybody never put my hands and they want,
Do you think I'm going to surrender with fifty cops? Are you crazy I'm about to get shot
They might have been helicopters closing in on Derek, but there were tons
people watching him on Instagram too, and at this point a lot of them had seen enough
and they decided it was time to make a move. She was one of those people
call it the very first train he could from Brooklyn to Manhattan. It was right in between high street and full on street, and that's like under the
Brooklyn the city on the on a train from where she is? It takes about forty minutes to get to Derek's apartment and for forty
she is glued to his phone. Trying,
make sure he doesn't miss a moment of Derek's live, but he can only watch it when he's dock to the station and their self in
Every time the train pulls off into the tunnel again,
she loses signal and a feed cuts out
I thought like each time. I was in the tunnel that that was like the moment that they were gonna break through his door and like
humbling to him. The knocking was getting crazier like they were increasing the frequency of it and the noise and the strength and everything. Why do you think constitution negotiation is here? Postgres crazy is getting crazy, they're peeking into my apartment. This is fucking crazy me, a God.
The train is running.
On the way there she gets a call from another warrior who tells him the decks.
but they're, not letting anyone near the building. In fact, the street's been blocked off on both sides, but she still wants to get close. So he comes up with a plan. She stops at a bodega and buys a jug of milk when he gets to Derek's block
he walks out some one of the copse at the barricade. I said what's going on here there.
There's an incident over here. We're closing the street off of I'm subletting like one forty six like right over there. I have my milk, I don't want it to get spoiled. They're,
sorry, Sir blah blah that I like drop, my milk. The plan fails, but across the street from Derek's apartment, a small group of protesters have gathered in a park. It's not exactly as close as she would like.
B but is within shouting distance of Derek. She runs over there and he starts getting updates on what they seem. So far. Here is one of the people in the park: Johnny Costa,
what I saw that kind of baffled me that let me know that oh shit they're treating him like a terrorist. Wasn't I seen the canines when I seen the dogs I said yeah, they got him like he's a fucking terrorist
Remember seeing police officers on the roof. Remember seeing the helicopters in the sky
This is Marvin Volumes, another warrior.
number seem more officers, keep coming more officers, keep coming more officers, keep coming. No one knows whether there as their ex friends
try to figure out how they can help they keep their eyes on the cops outside back inside their trial.
Distract himself on? What's going on with the perfect song for this moment, let's play some post moke. How about that top small founder? Do I feel safe, no ma'am, but I'll be okay. Alexa connect to the bull juice searching.
so is there.
Its ilusha mean his chair
and he still looks very stressed, but is a slight smile.
On his face now. He's
we trying his best to keep it altogether? The things just keep falling apart.
Time I try to make an outgoing call is going to the police department, some sketch stuff, going on
every time I made call and call and went to the police department and then my phone completely just frozen,
I wouldn't work. My phone is now working. The literally
the serious. I now like my phone
My wifi is no longer like working well
So I don't know what the fuck that was about. It was scary
warriors have told me before that they are worried about the police hacking into their phones. But, to be honest, I thought they would use being
of intense about the whole thing, and then we talked to an expert, and he told us it's entirely possible that while the cops were Derek's house, they could have tap into his phone using something called a sting ring.
The sting raise. A divisive sends out a cell tower signal throughout eastern area. Phones,
next to the signal and from their cops can access
the information you have stored on your phone and it's highly likely.
They can pull your messages, your photos and your contacts. When we contacted them
Then, why pitied in confirm or deny using anything like a sting re derricks,
but they wouldn't even be able to tell us if they did, because an
to get this x military attack from the federal government. Then why people
Sign Ndas, Derek was still getting. Some calls
and he was broadcasting live on his Ipad, but it was
starting to feel like the cops are closing closing in on there's dogs, there's dogs,
I hear they literally cover my people that had a battering ram. So all of this stuff on my wall is falling. I hear that you're, the one that even typical we're just trying to get you come outside. So you understand: what's
Bro I hostility you're. The one ST I'm not being hostile, I'm calm, I'm calling
come now. I am not being
he called me hostile. I am calm. I am child
like they were,
hit off my social media, and it was like trying to make me emotional, Derek says the started, bringing up his up his grandma
would cook him. Plantains and Cole rings for his birthday, who would up to surprise him at school to make him feel special,
the woman who always told them
see him in the morning. If its God's will she passed away a few years ago. Her name was Dolores,
and they were like what would delors thank and then at another point,
This is called on camera. They were like
Surely the worry you say you are
It seemed like the council willing to do just about anything to get them to come out and they are allowed
you just about anything
Bang on his goal for hours lie to him. Mock him even bring up is dead grandmother
How much did they pull their goal
as two options stay inside opened the door and as a ramp up the pressure
it's getting harder and harder to know which one to choose. There gets back on the phone with one of his lawyers. I'm trying to buy you time here. Okay, I'm working on getting your getting you out there ultimately you're going to do your
he says ultimately, Derek has to make the decision
You are now lay down.
felt overwhelmed like telling me? I just want to get this over with, and it's too much too much.
one wrong wrong move. They will probably him him down is Kiara.
she's watching on live and she can see Derek pacing back and forth. She knows
that's what he does when he's anxious and she's. What
he's ready to give in use in the fight for different?
where's at the time, and two of them are like surrender surrender. So she calls a moat. She tells him I feel like the cops are trying to say,
you to come out and say that this is what we are fighting against surrender
is giving them that power for you
and I was like what are we fighting for you? Surrender to Kiara opening
Doyle is not really an option. The way she sees. It then
I pity is trying to send a message. The fact that a cop,
up at one of their doors at seven in the morning in full force. Without a warrant, it's not just about scaring Derek it's to intimidate, intimidate all protesters she to him. This is what we are fighting against and
If you surrender, we are letting them win outside.
The warriors and their supporters, are ramping up the fight here. She if there is a reason for his arrest, they would have arrested him by now. It's been five hours, where's the warrant where's the warrant like what the hell it's. What new
You've been here since seven, you saying you have a warrant and you're not in his apartment. Yet there is something deeply wrong with that. They are struggling to get the warrant. This is a waste of taxpayer dollars. It's insane how far they go. They're such shitty people, so
this is so fucked in it
one hand like I could hear my friends. I can hear some of the protesters
chanting for my windows
so where's your where's, your art and it was cheap and that just like encouraged me. This is a waste of money. This is a waste of taxpayer dollars. Absolutely insane
knowing that his friends were outside supporting him and seeing all
The people who live there are kind of started to feel safe. I felt protective
because there were so many eyes on me. I felt like they're, not gonna, carry
may I love that might hurt me. They might do some fucked up shit, but I feel protected like this. Have I no cops kill people in front of an audience of all
time. It may be thinking that you're safe just because
friends or outside, and there's people watching on Instagram live. Maybe that's an irrational
out for someone, who's been protesting, police brutality all summer, but what was Derek supposed to do
There was nothing rational about dogs at his door. For that,
offer overhead street being blocked off the first thing that
since the dark all day was hearing his friends voices through his window? He had to trust,
that would keep him safe. So there,
starts getting ready. You, man,
you can't go to the hospital or jail. If, like dirty underwear, I brushed my teeth. Took a bath
change. Clothes like I was like I'm going to jail.
To the door. I literally have my hands on the door and I see a message says: don't open it direct, don't it's a trick
and I'm thinking they're just telling me that start to offer the door. So I'm still probably
at the door and then like now,
your cheering outside shared leg. They are.
So I didn't open the door and you see all these hearts going up on the live and
I hear boom boom boom, unlike oh my god, hello.
Is giant lever to bro
I don't know if they like what
hold. It John has he's gonna manipulate me at a record of his voice at a ran, a very might up a van or to see during those machines. Good I was happy is for John came sweat and screaming.
If I may, to anything, and at the time I was in shock, you still worried because it was those still
the forgotten in the window. Just watch me.
No, I was rubbing my as his face once he something got set for you, Dungy balls and shit, doing stupid shit that I do. Maybe I antagonize is my fuckers. I was like
please check my roof and just look
My my building, like I don't know, if still here still here, the roof we check the roof roof was clipped
with no warning, no obvious reason an almost ass suddenly,
they had shown up the cops packed up their shit and bounced just like that. After more than five hours,
the other seeing that moment that they laughed with no explanation
could see the sham and there and their faces there's a part in the matrix.
where everyone things like old man, this impending doom is coming, so they just.
I gathered the round and before you know,
would they realize all were saved? You know everything is gonna, be ok and they start like,
and it's like raining on them and they dancing and people are just feeling themselves and it, and you see the souls and the passion and that's what it felt like
I have not seen that matrix movie is talking about. It's got to be one of the sequels
the same? What he's getting it
the people on the live and the people on the streets. They needed this one,
It had been over two months of protesting in New York,
ass time. They had a major victory was all the way back and at the height of the protests,
governor Andrew Como repealed fifty eight making police
supplementary records open to the public for the four
time and nearly forty years, but since then
protesters, haven't really gotten much else. They will hold me
Four billion dollar cut to the Nypd's budget.
It didn't really happen in the way they wanted it to. They were calling for.
And the qualified immunity to make it easier for people to sue cops, but they weren't hurt.
some of the warriors told me that they were starting to have doubts about what protests in can actually change, but then
random Friday morning in August outside Nepal,
my building and health kitchen, a small
Group of them got together to stage a protest for one of their own, not knowing if this,
would turn out to be another loss.
that was later the cops drive off empty handed and therefore
walks out into their arms. She gave them hope again.
I don't think anybody expects chanting to solve anything immediately but
this moment. It actually did.
re like it actually had a direct impact
result that you saw right there and that must have felt like really satisfying yeah. It was really satisfying in a summer of LS
and pain and violence. It was,
When you don't mean, and you don't get alot of wines,
We still don't know why they had to fight this fight in the first place,
and why the Nypd went all out for this one. Guy, they won't tell us why, but can his lawyer decided
The best thing he could do is just turn himself in the figured. It would be safer that way they wouldn't have to worry
if or when the cops might turn up again and what would happen if they did so the next day,
He went with his lawyer to the precinct. There was charged with a sort of a police office.
for allegedly shouting into a cops ear with a megaphone at a protest. They also
I saw him with obstructing governmental administration, which basically
means getting in the way of a cop doing their job at first. He was faced
up to seven years in prison, but at a recent hearing,
One of the charges was downgraded the prosecuted.
Leave the the door open to to bumping the charges back up again lawyer thing
is just more intimidation tactics to keep him from protesting, but because of
breathing that happened, Derek
even more support than before from black.
eyes matter and Amnesty International,
and a whole bunch of celebrities who saw him alive ceiling
happened was like they tried
intimidate, you and, and it didn't work
actually did was made you even more entrenched in the movement and leverage to literally bring
attention to what they did, which was abusing power, misappropriating funds and intimidating unarmed black feeble.
that's literally that's what this whole movement is about and that's what they did to me publicly.
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