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today, I am sitting down with actress and now offer pre anchor copra weeds.
about creative ritual and routine and what it has felt like to be a creative person,
in the last ten months. How do you find your inspiration when you're
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Our conversations. This is information for the curious. This is the Rachel Hollis
podcast. I guess my question that I've been asking everybody. This year's how'd you do in how's it going.
a flight known hanging in their babe. How you doing guy
Twenty twenty was really freaking hard. I got my worst yeah
a rough ear. But honestly I started this year. I felt like enemy
in January, it was like the night before a new job like I just was like so excited fur. Possibility
I know we're still not.
words, and there is still so much pain and so much uncertainty, but I feel very hopeful, so I'm
who in great I know- and you know I thought that to another one we ve known
What is that
Debbie worth its downer- that yes
I was heartened reared speak American. Sometimes, but yes, I don't wanna. Tell me down with. I felt
you know New Year's Eve.
I'm in London. At the moment, though, I was at home with my family just like feeling super hopeful and feelingly
cited and ice- and I said
feel a sense of hope, but I also do feel a sense of dreams
a little bit, you know I'm going to work at this time. I started working as our filming back in October and
people are consuming so much entertainment right now that someone's gonna make it wrecking frail phrase. You gotta, we gotta go to work and ages,
It is now the vaccines come out, obviously, when we'll have access to it. Who knows, but I just do it
going on the said and as an actor, I'm the only one who's like taking off my mass, even though its really safe environment, everyone is so far away
especially from the actors, are very protected, but its soul
scary, and I have to say, I still feel like the sound of the burden of
what we went through in twenty twenty. Even now. Every time I go to set
So interesting about this is that I feel like even once, like you said, once we do
who have vaccines, and once I say, we ve moved through this
I think the emotional at risk
like the emotional fall out of what we ve all gone through is
thing: we won't even process for a while
No doubt they were you're absolutely right. I don't even think people realise how this is
going to affect us and quite specific, I you know,
He has been at home and not being able to meet friend
there be in school and even study. Actually so many kids have not been able to have access to online
education because they have computers,
you know and they don't have access to wifi around the world. So you know it's this
An unprecedented amount of uncertainty at my my best friend just had a son during court
dean, and she- and I were talking about how he's not seen anyone besides his parents
I guess I was going to be one
she's like whenever someone comes home and even if they are like outside and we need them, he starts crying and things strangers and
I know it's like, and I felt like my heart went out to him, but it's
it. We don't even realise that the mental trauma
think this year has probably had on people
absolutely or even just though Ike holding
those emotions right holding that fear holding that anxiety, Minos for your girlfriend and other women. I know who given birth in the last ten months, it's already so
freaking hard and then you have this added element of
for many of them there were moved from the community who would help them with this baby? Who would bring gas or all? Who would do the thing you know
everybody I it doesn't matter who you are. I think everybody will walk out of this experience. Having carried some trauma through it carried
hardship? And I'm curious? What have you done in the last? You know over the last ten months, other things that you ve done that have helped
you emotionally like moving your body or therapy, or is there anything that you ve done that you feel like tactically, really helped you, despite how stressful it was
for two or three things that I did and have been so helpful to me
one is randomly when we first quarantined in March, it was my husband
and my cousin and her family, and it was a bunch of us. We were about six of us who had quarantine for about four months. Together, we do this.
Thing where every night or whenever, through the day,
its walk up to someone or call someone and say I tell me the five things your grateful for today. Just today
tomorrow, not life? But what do you mean
sulphur right now in this moment and adjust brings you back to
saying right. I have this and there is some
many people around the world that don't right now, and you know I kept myself very, very aware of the different
between the haves and the have nots, and that kept me
A very grounded I've tried very much to help as much as I could. You know that kept me.
very soon to know that you know a sense of privilege
with having a home and you know a meal to eat and that
You know something that really kept me in a very same place and give me a sense of purpose. Second,
because I was very grateful for you know,
my family being safe of being able to have a house and being able to quarantine. You know where I felt
in care of, and maybe
the problem was bore them. You know,
I would like, in that world I also decide,
to find a sense of purpose.
So I really you know spun
creative minds. Actually, I finish driving my memoirs during quarantine
I developed a bunch of shows on zoo with flying
negative for my first love deal with Amazon. I shot two movies and released two movies.
You know. So I really like put myself into whatever
purpose I could find every day and those are too
things which is really a couple of things which really helped me not feel traumatized.
so interesting that you talk about creativity in this time, because I feel
like I also fell incredibly creative, and I think it was because I am so used to like pre covered. I travelled constantly for,
meat and greatly handling a luxury home and
Yeah could not write my book before that ices look at the computer and relax I'll try tomorrow by this
just having the luxury of
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are some of the things that you do that help with that creative process. You have any routines or rituals around I, whether it
acting or writing or anything that your creating as there are things that help you get closer to that place where your inflow, I do think.
Different for different things like when I was writing for me. I'm are released.
Oh Tiber, like a type and keep up with my thoughts.
Suddenly they have my pen and my journal with me sometimes are right and then, if I can't keep up with that- and I record my thoughts
I have to have liked
beverages. I have you no meals. I have to have my eyes so that my legs
to be outside and earn umbrella. If I can order
place which keeps my feet are open.
to be a sort of an environment, maybe some low five music playing in the background, but I mean
to create an environment for me to write
but when it comes even reading scripts, because when I'm but I'm working on credit,
creating characters in a new radio script. Multiple times in your right, like notes about, seems to think about what that is
even within that- I think we ve sometime
I walked around ceiling
need to have a space. I need to have a pen in my hands. I mean to like
is always something to drink and something to eat. I had the same way I like it's a joke. If you look at my desk right now, I have I do the harmony I've, a bottle of water. I don't know what that is, but there's no Lang, Juno's pomegranate, although they re offer you anything, can happen. I might need a stack move. Gonna got so we
I you know I'm trying to learn more
about adding ritual to sparking creativity, because I feel it.
For a lot of years
I am a high achiever. Unlike I will get the place, I will be the teachers pat. I will do I'll do all those things I'm really good at getting,
the job done, but as a move into this new phase in my life, I'm excited to play and export
and for me a lot of that comes in creative,
writing and writing things that maybe are different than what people have seen from me before, because I tend to
known for a very specific category, and so that's why I ask is I'm just curious about
tools that help us kind of tap into that place,
so that were more able to create. You touch them
something so interesting that its
also wanting to evolve and it sounds like you're, the kind of person who always one
to grow, and you are always willing to learn. You know
and I I
really believe in that that if you're a student of life and you're willing to every single day- like I don't know everything in l and now
rest on our laurels and look for the night
sing that introduces your excites you or I think that such a group
is to ban because
life is ever changing and changes almost constant thing in life and if we don't keep up, you're gonna be left behind absolute and evolution is such a large part of that. What has it been?
like for you. I feel, like you have this there
fluidity and that you have been part of so many cultures, you are a part of so many cultures. You have experienced bollywood even
parents, Hollywood you're in London, now you're married to an American like what are you
You, like your perspective, is on the world because you ve been able to sort of move through all of these culture as a kind of
absorb or learn from them
consider myself like a global citizen? I'm an indian members. You know America's my adopted country, but I see myself
like. I belong to the world because it suggests
place. Now you know it's such a. We can go anywhere at the drop of a hat.
Such enjoy and experiencing different people. I love
the adventure of experiencing different cultures. I'm curious about cultures and people, especially ones
one comes from a different country just because I ve traveled so much my whole life within India, within America and within the world. So I think you know I feel like
The one thing that I really think about is that we
become so did they say?
Sir divisive as human.
because we're so afraid.
something. That's different. You know something different comes along. You dont offend anyone. You d want to see the wrong thing. You don't sound ignorant, so you kind of just like don't
anything at all, and then there are those people who just like different and don't think different should exist. So you know, I think,
for those reasons we sort of created division than I think
I was raised in a home in a family where there was
Curiosity was encouraged to end eyes too. You know: walk
the people and go to different cities, and do you know my dad used to just hylas all into a car and we go for a road trip for like ten days and
sense of adventure in the sense of curiosity, especially about something that's different, will create
much more unity and sort of love and kindness. I think- and I
I'm floor, people whenever I mean meet them that unites it's all right. If you dont know everything about everything, no one can know everything about everything, but I
came to America. Like you said, I married an American, I don't know what
it's giving was going, I'm supposed to be how exciting but an excited. You know, I don't even know what are the things you do when on Christmas, like celebrate Christmas, but I didn't know those like
was the dinner and you know that
the day when you open the gifts and like all the things you know- and I
afraid to ask the questions, because
to bring my best put forward, and I was okay with not knowing because suggest
that you know I encourage people to ask questions and be curious, and
no educate yourself is that such enjoyed a live in such a diverse world with so much so many
and says: I'm gonna forget food cultures, languages, people, what a joy planet earth is, do you
feel a certain amount of pressure in
you are, I mean
I think one of the most followed social media accounts that exists
not mistaken, to fly on Instagram a huge following and deep.
feel a certain amount of pressure in that the sole
people know you and that your representing that culture and how to
I have nowhere near the number that you haven't. It feels like a lot of pressure, or is that something that you would have liked, but over here I feel
I'm not I had a state. You know I just to have a lot of people that, like my work, so I'm just saying
I hope you like rebellion that Belarus five. I just doesn't give myself that kind. Do you no import?
I guess I do give importance to my job. I am as a girl and the pictures I put
those, thereby opinions or whatever you know that
a sight of me, which is very, might my own. You know no one's put me there, but when it comes
my work. Everyone has the right to have an opinion on it because that's my job, I'm in a public job
I'm creating media creating entertainments. I've made peace with basic
meeting the pressure. I should
I definitely think pressure on my job. I went
he's coming out, like my book is coming out of terrified. I've done it for the future. I got my movie came out. I'm terrifying,
People are gonna. Think because it's my first big you know
p job and my first like dramatic role or whatever in America,
a lot of pressure and myself to excel at my job, but I don't know
Excel at life right. You know,
every human being
cry I get hurt. I laugh, I feel pain,
so don't take social media seriously. I take it as a way of connecting
people directly. I've had so much support.
well wishers and fans who have supported me in pushed me into all of it.
Ethical choices that are taking decisions to permit
career in different parts of the world start all over again
but I've always had like rock solid fans
people behind me and
Just use it as a way of like interacting with them. I really don't put the pressure.
My career on my socialist, I put the pressure of Michael
online you know
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so when you and this probably gonna sonic such a dumb question that I don't know the answer to
coming. We just have to battle by re coming from
Where are you started acting in Bali? What is that correct? Yes,
we felt in the streets colloquially called boy? Would I usually don't prefer that term, but the
Zaza me too of Hollywood, but yes, they leave of industry, and so in an it forget,
if I'm wrong, but massively successful in that space. Is that correct?
what kind of done our guy used every now and then
coming to the! U S, like you just said,
this line where you said you know having to start all over again, I thought wow, that's wild and fascinating. Is that what it felt like two to try and make a transition into the? U S market did it feel like you have to start fresh? You have to let a whole new group of people know who you are you gotta do the pr
I feel like kind of starting again absolutely I didn't come with the entitlement of the fact that you know the Hindi film Industries, the largest film industry in the world. We make a thousand movies a yours, you know. What's in every country,
and I think that I was just looking at transitioning into english language, entertainment as well, because big
in the English are both my first languages. I grew up in you know, speaking
In the end, English, I grew up thinking in whom the English and I want to just evolve
now suddenly my thirties, I was like we're gonna start goodwill
your country attempt to complete
new things. I didn't think
about sort of the repercussions of it, but I
with music initially and the same is recording artist with inner scope and
a transition from that I can do you know.
Find my sound
the way I wanted to and I'm pivoted from that into acting. It was such a hard place to come into being
I wanted to be a part of mainstream entertainment. I didn't want to be a jack in the box,
I didn't want to be a diversity higher and you know there was a lot of
That sort of work coming to me, and I have to give credit to my first tv show, which was Quantico. We know one
when I mention back Kelly Lee at the time the BP of Costly for ABC said to me that you know I said I don't wanna do ashore witches.
My ethnicity and where I come from an explanation of the fact that I deserve a seat on the table, I'm an artist,
am I have something to say as just being an actor
and I remember her saying that you know that's my promise to you and
when I signed on Quantico and all the other speakers that they gave to me none of them.
Put me in a box and I did Quantico and I was the first. You know
of Asian, which is crazy to think about
do. A network tv show and, like twenty fifteen, to lead a net,
It was mine, blowing that it was so late, but it was happening. So I have my own sort of
in our doors to break down at that point, but because of the credibility that I had built, that's my
work in India and the career that I've
the privilege of having their you know my colleagues,
what overtime eventually in in America was a sort of set of giving credence for that, and you know I have
Amazon first look deal as a producer of a second deal with CBS Invite com is a producer and
creating content now,
which is all
Asian or you know female or minority centric, and I didn't have that when I
started doing this, but I think credit given too,
of really wonderful, not a lot of, but few amazing, wonderful, south asian leaders that we have in in Hollywood,
I would say, like some of them are my friends, windy, killing Aziz and sorry hasn't menage commercial risk,
you know who are demanding being a part of mainstream pop culture
and you know creating content for themselves and pushing the bar and pushing the goalposts for I think
presentation and it's a great time and I'm really happy the sort of be at the press of that, but it does not easy to.
Don't do that honestly? I know. I know that you ve done so many things and you are so encamp accomplish, but I personally I
and think of anything more inspiring than the fact that you began again because
people are afraid to leave their lives. Being a third grade teacher,
mean, like people are afraid to leave lives that haven't achieved massive success and my gut
as you could have stayed. You could have done that you could have had this.
Glory is amazing career where you are beloved and your kill any you're, making all the money- and it's all but two like to have the guts to dream that
you could open in a new market and
only one that is so badly. That is social and desire. It was terrified. I remember, I think I told
story, I think in the book, but I'll tell you which will give you an example of how
failed, I remember when I first came to have started.
Working in early and music and stuff, like that,
you know. A lot of magazines were uncovering me and I remember walking into this one magazine and I've been under Indian cover five times
walked in and I was like hi guys. I've been on your indian version like five times, but this is land. This is the kind of work I'm looking for an
and introduce myself in spite of the fact that you know that
what I had done there and I remember I was invited to this big.
music party ones that I was very excited about, it knows like, oh, my god, all the a listers are gonna, be there and I walked in
his party- and I was like all you get into the party, but you don't
get in at eleven
because all the poor kids hair out bears very
themselves and I was like-
ok- and I remember my manager looked at me and she was like baby.
You know. I know what you ve built and I know who you are, but
I also know what you want, and you know it
you used to
you had down and walk into that
and I remember not knowing anyone and I was like don't
anybody. You walk into back, but you know
if you want
thing: there's no free lunch in the world. You got a swallow that bitter pill and work in that direction. Nothing came out of that party at that point, as it does in all of these Hollywood parties uses me people and nothing what becomes of it, but you know I had a great time. It was great for my sense of confidence, because then you know nothing could determine if I could just
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was watching an interview recently was interviewing lady Gaga and she was talking about a star is born and the interviewer asked her. You know
Oh, they made you audition, you would do audition for that raw like how did you feel about avenue audition and she was like, I loved it, because
nothing's better than people doubting me.
And it made me go like ok, you want to see what I can do now, I'm in a show you what I can do. This
thing really magical about having to having to
go through that when you haven't got
through in a while. I'm quoting her. Do you
like you had that sort of, like I'm gonna, prove you wrong, or did you have that, like I free
you know what I am.
capable of I know I can do this and I'm just going to keep falling that I didn't have it I'm going to prove you wrong, because then my whole life would have been about
I've had naysayers my whole life,
cause I've always from myself and decision.
This means that I didn't know anything about when I ll
the pageants that I one I've come from high school, I've never been imagined girl, I've, never modeled in my life, don't even know how to walk in the meadows and sorry and gowns. Like I learned
the job when I was thrown into the indian film industry. I didn't know how to run your marking
You learn your lines and the things, but I learnt really quick eye. It was, I think you know when you pushed him
the deep and you either sink or swim, and when you have that choice, you gotta just swim,
and having I learned how to do that.
a very young and live at a very young age, and
I realise that you know it's only
self that stops you it's your fear and that doesn't necessarily mean that I do
feel. Like you know, I I didn't
feel pressure and I didn't feelings the cure, and I didn't feel
isolated or some sort of solitary in my desire and attempt to grow, but I think the way
what I did was instead of taking the pressure
an approval role,
What I did was, I know my job and I know
if I am thrown on a film, said
no, I can deliver because I come from ten years of that experience of having worked in so many
different genres of moving laid. So many various
kinds of roles which I haven't even started doing in America, early just played my first dramatic part
in the: U S you know and after having,
some fifty sixty movies there. I had faith in my ability had faith in what I bring
The table- and that gave me confidence to sort of had my eye on the prize instead of the noise, but so get. I love that
Tom. Tell us about the book because it feels like there's a lot of wisdom in the words that you ve, written down, that are gonna inspire listener. So can you tell us why you wanted to write it and what we
find in the pages
we started writing and it was. I thought it would be the easiest way to write a book. I always wanted to write a book. I've written
birds and I was always afraid of
you're, driving like novel or like a screenplay so like I am.
Approaching twenty years in the entertainment business. You know in twenty Twond unease that I'm gonna write a book and
If I remember rightly be easy, because I know my life, so you know I didn't understand the gravity of what I was taking on when I sat down to write it. I was so overwhelmed with the fact that
You know I didn't have any memories. I've been running so fast for such a long time since I was a child
moving around. My parents were in the military every two years old,
that I never had time to really remember things, so I really had to sit back right United made my milestones and sort of divine
around that. But I really started writing the book in quarantine. When I have the luxury of time and then became like a journal, I just
so the flawed out of me and I realized
given myself time to introspective realise how I've
gotten where I have. There were so many things I hadn't dealt with emotionally. That made this book
personal and if Fit was another time in my life. I don't think this book would have been what it is right now.
Before I could stop the press as it was printed. So now is
or already, but its it's very,
vulnerable and raw and personal and I've never
spoken about a lot of these things in life passed, and I probably never will in the future. The boycott me at a very soft
time in my life, but I'm proud of it. I'm proud of the girl that you know has been through all the same.
I have mentioned in the book and when I finished reading
The first time I remember AL
proud of my young yourselves, and you know I was for the four
This time I wasn't hard on her, and I said you know good job, you navigated aloud and you got out of
You know the other side, okay, and that certainly something and
I want to acknowledge that for you, because having personally,
in about a lot of vulnerable
on hard things very few people understand what that feels like it's like cutting
when a vein
putting it on a page, is an and not only that, but then a world of people get to consumer and have an opinion on what it, what it is windows it.
Amounts now I don't even think about that. I'm like wasted at combating them even more February, nine o clock. This is why I said that this way said this,
because any time that we put words like that down,
Certainly, there are going to be people who have opinions that aren't great, but what you will find I promise is the people
Who will be forever change because of a line that you rode on a page and
I just think that books have this way of affecting people that very few mediums can
because it just a lives forever and it
truly was like your heart, honest
age at a moment in history, five years from now
or ten years from now you would have written a different book and there's somebody
so beautiful about having the courage to put it out there, because I promise,
You you! All! You will be blown away by the people who come back and say like this.
Made me feel less alone. I thought I was the only one me to thank you sit like so just cling to the people who do get something out of it
because I think when I'm writing, my prayer is always God give me just one
give me one person that gets
anything out of this, even if it was just a laugh on a hard day, because then it will be worth it because, if you think of the millions, its
too overwhelming interest. I
want to honour you, because lots of people have stories and lots of people dream
writing a book, and very few people have the courage to actually do it, especially with a platform as big as yours
Thank you Rachel. Those are wise words from someone with experience.
To hear that. Thank you. It's gonna be great. It's gonna, be it's gonna, be category. I probably you weren't, always gonna be out of what is the title of the book and where can people find it just cause? I know they're gonna wanna go grab after listening. The title of the book is called
finished and you can find it on various platforms, online, Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, and it's called unfinished because
That's what I feel I am. I feel
there's a lot I want to do and by gods grace. If I get the opportunity to, I would love to keep doing at fair, add. Ah my gosh. Thank you so much
taking the time and talking to me
all the things. I just think that there's something so special about the willing
to be vulnerable. It kind of goes back to that, leaving
this world that you knew leaving
Moreover, you have answered of oh come and go back to the base of a mountain and start again and you're doing it again. You could have done
had the Instagram baby imagine have and the willingness to speak. Your truth is just super inspiring. So thank you, the rate
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