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I welcome to the rise podcast, I'm Rachel Hollis and I built a multi million dollar media company with a high school diploma, and a Google search bar each week will be sharing
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I am interviewing one of my favorite people, Jenna culture
you are not already familiar with general. She is an incredible podcast. Her educator teacher as one of the greatest Instagram feeds around and is based
the girl crash? We all have I dont even eat.
Introduce her more just, listen to today's episode and you will understand why she is the best
I feel like the fanciers podcast her on the planet, because Jenna Culture is my guest today,
which shows pretty fancy well
that is? Why? Should we not reading fancy, I mean I click my,
Squad is your slides. They are totally gonna know who you are, but on the off chance infidel, will you tell tales about yourself from what you do? Yeah swell?
sorry, I'm just so honoured I have
in my phone as the real Rachel Hall, because it just has been such a blessing to know you, but for those of you who do
know me. I am thirty years old. I live in small town Minnesota with my husband. We have a bay
the on the way, which has been quite a journey for eyes and about
eight years ago. I was too
three years old, I was working a corporate job at target and I just felt like there had to be more to life
very confusing a very confusing season for me, because I felt Gondis
gone to school. I done everything right. I got this awesome job with a salary and benefits and everything that I was supposed to want.
But I wanted more and I wasn't really sure like what does more look like
and so at the time we were planning our own wedding, and I decided I ve been invested a little camera. So I hopped down the Craigs list,
and I purchase a three hundred dollar camera and I had no idea how to use it. I'd never taken a single art class, but I fell in love and it is something that just made me remember like I am this creative human being
and so at the time I was seeking, vision of our lives of wedding planning drew is my model. We have various voters at that season of life and
hundred decided, like maniac dues and photo shoots, make a few bucks on the weekend help.
For our wedding, but shortly
I realize like. I can make this a real legit business, and so I started a blog back when blogs weren't as popular and I
it is share my photos than they had an awful filters on them, and I didn't notice you can manual and it was literally a mass but people
part of paying attention
so I'm totally bootstrap. This idea that if I could match my salary, I would have given myself the permission to put in a two weeks notice in the way my corporate job, and so
My parents were like what are you doing like you went to school for business and now you're a photographer, and this is so confusing and don't make a big mistake, but yet
they cheered me on and so within one year I booked twenty five weddings, just through the big
hustle of my life and I put in my notice in now, eight years later, my business looks
entirely different. For so many years. I had my identity in wedding photography I shot over a hunt.
In and thirty weddings and it's been
your blessing, but I think that true blessing was in realising like I was able to make a go at this and so many creative people, really
struggle at making a profitable, authentic, sustainable business- and I
I myself like what did I do differently? And so then I started teaching and so
today, as we stand by business links
entirely different. I am almost done with my wedding photography career the career that got me start in all of this.
Transitioning into a fully new season, which is all about education and serving our audience and being
a true influence, sir, and using that influence for good, and so we love to just teach other people through my podcast gold, Digger podcast, through courses
but really just showing up into the world, just as we are in showing you, but you can be successful, even if you work from home in your yoga bans which I'm guessing you- and I are both anyway- that right now I've got my cliff website. I actually have my most gigantic genes cause. I felt, like I asked sitting on the floor of our living room
I wish our lives are just amass year in Texas. Nothing is set up in the office so literally
after you know, we have two hardware entered your card, classic doesn't sound and I am like I'm a disaster. You know what I'm
about that. We get it right, we get it done and we moved rate around the same time as you. So I am in this with you, a hundred and ten percent. While
what I find really interesting, as you tell the story, I obviously knew that you're photography background, but I never really thought about the fact that both of us gotta start in weddings.
If time from Amazon, letting planner- and I do think, there's something very interesting- shouted anybody listening who works in the wedding industry, because that is a trial by fire
I speak of another industry that
You are starting your own shop whatever it is that you gotta hostile to get those
and you got to stay on the cutting edge of what's trending, what's beautiful and make sure that Europe doing other things that you should, but also I mean talk about.
Sprint about like how much summer cans and all right now, you, like you said, had that twenty five weddings, unlike ok, so that was almost every weekend or maybe that was working
both weakens. How how much do you think that that,
like hustle, that hard work put your head down, get the job and how much do you think
starting your own business in that way has led to where you are too bad. You know, I think it's ever
thing in one of the biggest Miss
in substance about the wedding world, as we all love attending weddings, but when you're working a wedding, it is entirely different. The work you have this one day. You know these giant expectations. You want. Your cup also feel like they are the only couple in the entire world, and you know when I look back
what happened was my first season. I did twenty five weddings, the next season. I did twenty seven, then
season. I did thirty and on that thirty wedding wedding season which, if you're in
MID West, it was literally every single weekend between May in October. That are shooting. I hit
or burn out like it was impossible for me to feel authentic in telling a bride. The hour dress was the most beautiful dress, I'd ever seen when I
just seen one the night before that was equally as wonderful and beautiful, and when I look
get that season of life, you know I was believing a lot of wise united believing that more is better than that.
You know. These numbers were my worth and I felt like a
odd. I mean I legitimately felt like the biggest fraud and even to this day. After all, these awards and accolades, and all these things I still
like somebody is gonna help me on the shoulder and say you have no idea what you're doing because
I never took over the geography cars. I M, not a professionally trained photographer. I learned every
in all my own, and so even this past
we can now shooting one of my final weddings ever and I shot for
eleven hours, I'm almost twenty weeks, pregnant items
body was a whole new level of hurt, and yet I was so filled with joy because, like why in honour to do this, but the
adding industry. I'm let me tell you guys like it is no joke and I seriously still have nightmares like that. I hope to a wedding and there's a bunch of puppies running round and I've gotta get them into crates.
Before I can see the white emulate the craziest dreams ever, and so it definitely play
a giant role into where I am today, because it really taught me that I don't
simply in my life around weekends. I don't
a plan starting a family around weddings, but
also that I want to build something so much bigger than just serving one client at a time. That's great so,
we talk about this idea of education, which is actually how I first found out about you, if you're
no Jenna has the most more than one of the most spun instrument feeds that everybody should be following
but I actually found out about you because of your podcast, where
I tell everyone in fact I just updated.
You know when someone subscribes to email, and then you have your campaign. That goes after two days in three days and I think my foot,
stay is my favorite part Cason this morning I just updated to address and next holes like man, the earliest dues, because it's really it's from years ago. So I had it at my lady. You are and not a single cause round the phone. There is not another pied cast it exists for I know
four guys you, but for women in small business, especially that was newly breaks down tat
Google, how two's, like your says,
he and I cannot recommend it to listeners enough if you had not gone through there is year
worse- and I am not exaggerating year
worth as information on everything from like how to do it,
look at you how to use Pinterest two August
like anything at all and when I love is that you're interviewing experts in the field and sometimes a big fancy experts that we have all heard of, and sometimes you're like. Oh, this is Mary. She actually does Michaelsburg out, Sir she's gonna talk. I smell like how D Ye do sell unequal through Facebook at its really tangible advice
so tell me like: when did you start the part cast how'd it
tell me that process, because everything at super interesting. If we have new wireless me who want to do that but be
I'd love to hear how, like lots of people, want to educate and teach, but
You decide exactly what that would look like for your business yeah
first things. First, everyone needs to listen to episode, one forty six, which is your uppish ever area. I love you are ready to go good job. I got this
so you know it's so funny. I think that so many times in my four like. Why would I be the one to do this like? I am not qualified. No one wants to hear from me and I believe that for so long in the funniest part about it is, is I've never share this before, but my boy,
other actually gave me a microphone any said Jane. I really think you should do a podcast denies like. Oh, my goodness, like I don't know how I could talk for more than one episode, and here we are like almost two hundred episodes deep and I'm still coupling, and so I think
tat. I was really kind of like men like what do I have to offer, but when I started
look at my own user habits. I have learned so much from podcast in when I list
Nepal, yesterday sincerely feel like trusted friends.
Was in the shower one day, and I I listen about gas in the shower is actually listening to your show in the shower and
who is listening to our mutual friend Amy Porter fields. Pod guys- and I was like you know what anything Amy ever sold I would buy, because I trust her like she has been this voice in my ear. She doesn't even know exists on planet earth. You,
she has shown up and served me and anything
she had to salaried buying a heart be, and I started to think about you know we have these courses. We teach a lot of paid opportunities, but there wasn't a ton of free education
and so I got over the shower. The water was still running. I voice sex to my assisting Caitlin, and I said you know we have like a month of free time. I decided we're gonna, make a hardware store and within a day I had made a website. I had pretty much done everything, but actually recording, because, let's be honest, recording the first show is probably the most daunting thing you will ever do cause you're like what is it
and I don't want to mess year of the pot gas we. How do I to it afloat,
We had so many dear friends in the industry that I knew I just one.
Is so many dear friends in the industry that I knew I just wanted to give them this platform to use- and I were
to really make it like this workshop, like you feel like you're sitting down, and you could take notes and you get leave it and apply things and really see results in so since in its grip
tremendously, and now we have my sister who works for a full time, helping me
everything, but it issues. So
run. It isn't it awesome about pod gas that you get
get on the phone with people you might not actually have access to other wise, unlike pick their brains about things that you're just curious a hundred percent. I saw a stray that you interviewed sherry, saliva and acknowledge. Tat was like how did she get
she very like I am the most I heard Oprah like she is my my God
and I love her and I will come, and I know what I say all, but there
our goal, but over there is like a handful of people more than a handful people who watched
the upper shell for so long that they know exactly who she is and what she meant to the structure of that company? And I'm just like you
you're gonna. Do this get these people? This is so inspiring
Is that that thing where you,
yet to connect with someone and for aid to purchase
go ahead and say if you are where Jenna was where I was weird like still not sure how to open your new podcast that your building,
probably not gonna get Oprah as guest for
but there is, I did that. That's really interesting thing is like how
did you work up from there to here, because you do have this opportunity in every time you could have level that you get to speak to someone tat you maybe one
otherwise, but you didn't,
start there. I'm guessing you started with like who do. I actually know that has some was
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First, when I went to launch my show, I literally made a list of about thirty of my friends, and these are
people that at either worked with me in my business. They had been contractors for me from my copyright or to my web designer or
people that I had met at conferences that I actually personal relationship with my old theory was like. If I could
examined me like hey,
I'm doing this thing. There is no social proof, but will you jump on the bandwagon and give me your time and talent, those where the people that I was going after and I had a lot of confidence
like I knew that it could be something I just wasn't quite sure what it would. Look like
and so I can. I had this plan of how I wanted to launching in what episodes they wanted to do by
no eyes. We started to climb the charts eyes. We started to get more downloads and and now, especially as we have a fully dedicated team member, whose job
is to land, as these amazing gas that I dream up or that I follower that I admire you know we ve been,
well to say here is what we can offer you and I think one of the most beautiful things about podcasting. Is that you?
actually have this opportunity to offer. Somebody like I have this
audience. I have these avid listeners, and I want you
be the star of the show. I want you to.
Share, the things that you are so passionate about- and I want this to be the best interview of your life. What is it going to take for this to be the best interview of your life, and so it's me
such a process in learning it there are definitely benches. These include
edible gas and then there have been shows where I'm like well
this may be wasn't my favorite show, but they resonate with different people in our audience, and so you know
We continue to grow. It just really really cool to feel like I'm actually extending this true opportunity, whether you
a hundred downloads, are a hundred thousand downloads. You are giving people this plan
and if you allowed them, to show up in a way
that they ve never been invited to show up online before it is
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You, can find out more information outlets rise, Doc, CO, which has all of our event and foe, but I hope to see you there, it's gonna be so much fun. It's gonna be a chance for all of us to come together in community to see a movie with Oliver bases on it, which is so crazy, but also to experience. One of our conference is for the cost of a movie about thirteen bucks. I hope I will see you back
You are, I want people to know it's not just like. Sometimes you hear people saying these things. Are you see them on instruments like ITALY,
a bit of an act, and I feel like I have this incredible opportunity, because I can t.
Still in real life,
and so I feel like it's worth saying. I was singing this morning like why what is a powerful tool,
for us to discuss, alerting out this work
Tuesday, ok, so last week I
I was sitting at a meeting with my publisher, the publisher flew out to us then, and there,
the team and they wanted to talk about the next. Like she looks in publishing,
well I'll, be super honest is
feels very overwhelming. When I am, you know, editor do I'm an xbox and grow
her face all these things and it felt super overwhelming
as we're sitting there in this meeting. My publisher screams, like
and looked at his creator and his dreams.
Scares everybody and he's like number one number: wine, meaning
girl ass? Your faces a number one on your times list which it is just that
manners, and I have to tell you I lifelong dream to beyond the New York Times. Never I swear to you. It never occurred to me. I will be there for more than one week ever it now,
occurred to me that it would climates are never never, never one. That was just not a goal that our dream- I've, never even thought of it, and so
I was feeling super overwhelmed and
all the things- and I honestly
It was like all wow like a high five them, and I swear back
work right and then probably the next morning I was driving and for the second day of publisher meetings
David error in the car and I looked down, and I see that I have a voice memo from Vienna,
the most beautiful kind.
Did not have to. There was no reason to, but she just said in fact they should like find the voice. My word had them added at the end of it. She was just like
in this moment, like
this moment, because achievers tend to run off to the next thing and they don't acknowledge what a big deal. Something like this is and it's a big deal.
And of course only Bali.
The car Dave's crying the Cairo like his own eyes, but I,
just thought man what a legacy for you to be the person first of all, who
is the woman that she says that she is on theirs.
There's? Not a different like that is who you are you are this uplifting? You are this guy to people in
a life as you are on your part cast,
but also I thought, like man I,
when practice this more in my life, because I feel like I'm so living
in the space of em
a motivating or encouraging women on line that I
like sometimes so exhausted. I can't do that in in real life,
and then here's how this then piece of work sounds like man, Lord, I wouldn't be more intentional. I want to be more like Jenna,
and then yesterday my girlfriend Anna, whose really
successful author had
a movie coming out a base,
a book that she rose and
posted on her instagram. The chair like that drugs,
sure that said, like producer and a time- and I would just like this
banana like first of all, women are amazing, and women are taking over the world and so inspiring, but I
had never done a voice, my going my whole life, so first, so I had to figure out how to do that. But then I sent her voice memo exactly like you said to me, and I would just like to sit in this moment like please appreciate this moment. This is so incredible. I'm so proud of you like stare, and so I just wanted you to know
in this little way, how you encourage me every day online, but also as a friend
that little spark, and I know women are listening to right now that that
you are I'm just such
incredible leader and you are leading us well and that is,
something that's manifesting in my life and the now. I hope, unless you realise that they will see true
and beauty and other women, and they will speak it into name so I've. Finally,
Should I told you that I really really appreciate it? Can I give you: is
a strategy to total strategic
so the I've been doing this for proudly gosh, maybe three year
But I used to have like about a fifteen minute drive to the gym every morning and then work out Monday through Friday and now than in brakemen. That is not exactly the case during the vestry
but what I would do on that drivers. Our turn out a little worship, music, I think of three people, and I feel it
I've always had this. This sense of you know, like people randomly pop in your brain, any kind of just acknowledge in any kind of move on
realizing like no. These are just from God like I needs I'd, pay.
Tension, and so our candidate
open myself up out when we like. You know who I thinking about today or or
you know why are you putting someone on my heart and then I would say
in the gym parking lot out, voice sex, three people. Every day,
in just send them encourage. May I just say I'm thinking of you. I'm not exactly sure why, but I just want you to know, I'm praying for you this morning in it it's one.
I just a voice. Tax are my love language, so much easier than real tags,
sue, it was just like a really cool way to stay connected, because I just feel like online. You know so many of my friends are people that have literally just met on Instagram
because they understand this like world in this whacking us that were living in everyday trying to do all the things, and so you know
this false sense of connected niches, has become, can see in the fields in and when you posted what was going on. I knew you and I knew that tendency of like girl wash your face is so yesterday, even though just coming out for the world, because you wrote it so long ago and you planned the launch so long ago, and so now it's like your already. You know five steps ahead of it in so it
is one of those things words. I give your thinking about someone there's a reason I extend than that nudge
since then. That reminder, because I feel like there are no coincidence that good day I love that steal it
I don't even have a clever subway for their expression- is just a bigger really wanted. I am rather other so one of the things that I know about you, because I've been a long time with your dear podcast is, I don't know,
you ve done it forever or if it's a newer thing in your career, but you do masterminds
you do. I know you pack has episodes about this, where you could get it like. If people want to really understand, I think you're, homeless, Amanda Gucci, where you guys talk about how powerful was for your careers but
we love just personally. I would love to hear like what
made you decide to do the first one and then
made you decide to keep on as
by tracking, and that makes no sense, but when you didn't say that this was a really valuable use of finances,
you're level it at this level like this is not cheap. This is it
I still hiring and new play for a year or so.
I'd love to hear and I'm not gonna mastermind and I've just always wondered like man. What's it all about some ice
I'd. Masterminds are almost like these secret clubs. Like the term
its thrown around him. He warlike wait. Why did even is that so? First things, first
mastermind is basically a group of people committed to each other's success for an extended period of time and you can
you on line masterminds, you could do over the phone masterminds or you can do in person and basically what
looks like, as it looks like a group of entrepreneurs, usually who are
playing a kind of a similar level that are coming together to share you know: what's work
this I some way to have
support each other. How can we an for me each other? I know just like
awesome way to have community at the level you're at and for me- and you know, I know just like you, race could be a millionaire whatever that aside and yet I felt like I
a thirty year old girl from small time in a soda could be a millionaire whatever that aside and yet
felt like I was just kind of in a dark building with only a flashlight, and I could literally only see what was right ahead of me, and so I just feel
like a little bit lost on like what is a five year plan
I've a kid what's gonna happen
and so I had heard about masterminds- and I wasn't quite body into the ice-
yeah, because I
that, while the community over competition movement is such a beautiful thing, I think that our hearts really
I'll go with that idea in
I've done so much work to figure out like how can each
Will he be joyful for other people's success?
measure it up against the things that I'm doing and so little,
how's is an amazing man who is now like a very very dear friend of mine, and I was on his email list, and I got this email is that you know I'm doing this masterminding
It was like, oh my gosh, this secrets out like. Finally, I can see like summit
he's doing this and there is an invasion that application in an all.
These other ones just felt like these, like underground railroads of success, that nobody could figure out where people were, and so I apply
to be in his, and it is a giant amount of money like tens of thousands of dollars for a year, commitment
for me, I had done one eye one coaching. I had done courses
And I knew I needed to like level up and be held accountable for an extended period of time. In
Oh I joined his last year. It was
such an amazing experience, the people that I met in that group there are twenty five of us from all over the world.
Who all have very different businesses, and I wanted to join one where I wanted to feel like the dumbest person in the room
but also I was the only creative entrepreneur in that group. There are tons of bitterness, professionals and people that had these giant conferences and in all these different things and so
we met three times over the year for three days. Louis would bring indifferent experts to teach us things. We
Really, I'm just going to sit down and brainstorm things together and then
would just have accountability with that and so
the best things that Louis ever did was he brought in an expert on how to run mastermind and again it was one of those. Why would I ever do this? Why am I qualified, but I feel
this knowledge- and so I ended up
launching masterminded idly inside my man and so on
so? I am twenty five incredible women from all over. We have one Canadian and then all over the country
and I my biggest hang up, was like. I do not want a plan in person. Events like I've never done my own in person, event issues, not my cup of see. I'm super introverted
and so I actually ended up hiring. My ma am
and my mom is my vent plan and urges the whole family work and that they are is working in this bit is again does so. My mom runs mastermind in terms of the events of the catering and we
Meet three times a year, so we met in Waco in January. We just met in Minneapolis in June and that our me,
looking at this amazing camp in Wisconsin in September
Basically, I mentoring these women and their mentoring each other, and it is
span- it's been probably the most emotional experience in my business career because I'm seeing first hand the impacts,
and feeling the struggles so much more intimately and I'm you know
communicating with these women almost daily,
I just knew that, like I can't do wanna one coaching, I don't have the bandwidth for that, but what, if I could get the right people into the right room and I could teach
the things I know and really help them to create systems that guy
the more freedom and more profits and just bring people together to feel less alone. So is
I've never been just like the craziest thing ever, but there is so much power in group learning and in
sharing your talents with the world, and there are so many experts within the mastermind that I led you know we have
copyright, or we have an attorney, we have photographers, we have authors we have could but greater than you have everything. It is a good idea, because I think something that I have really struggled with in my career is mentorship. Everyone
gotta conferences, environment or find image like is
going on it's like where is disappearing, and you also hear all of that
other information about in a year that you're a combination of the five people that use round or self worth. And if you want to level up, then you have to make sure that you're, not the smartest person inner circle of friends but like where are these awesome new frowns that I'm supposed to find? So I just think that that is such an incredible idea for anybody whose at this place in their career to them.
Wants to take the next step. Do you have any thoughts were, and if you're not dare you, if you don't maybe have
financing. How can
you create something like this in your town without having to pay someone else, do it for you absolutely I mean here
the course thing is genuinely stated, a mastermind like right,
to me, you and Amy Porter filled could start a master. My hundred line as where we had I want to remind, but I do want to go to work a spar weakened with you guys. I sounds good.
I mean for that. But I mean really, if you can find a few people who are experts in something that really want to share that expertise and to create this type of relationship like you can start a free quote mastermind, I think the biggest thing
as this is what I ve learned in business is those who pay pay attention, and so the problem with free masterminds is, if you and I committed you no one's month, we're gonna get all the call and it's free for going to help each other out it so easy to back out when you have no skin in the game. You know, and people's commitment levels can totally Wayne so easily and so
What I would recommend is like having some sort of buying or some sort of thing at stake
everyone pool their money in the person who shows up every single time, gets it at the end of the year, or something like that, so that you are incurred
to show up
but there are just so many different ways that you can support other people and learn from other people, and I think that
finding those individuals that will truly
We be an open book, you that will truly how you like it is that won't withhold information.
Can do that and- and I would say you know a group of five people that commit to once a month getting sick.
Other or meeting or walking through different things are having each other led. Something that there really passionate about is an incredible way to learn, and I think the biggest piece of it is just accountability like can you be accountable,
for the things that you say you're going to do, are you really going to do them? Can you show up and say guys? I did what I said I was going to do, even if it didn't work out the way you thought it was, and I think that's that is something that's so many entrepreneurs are
sing, is accountability in community on the idea of a mastermind? Why
there are some things that you have done. Let's say in the last eighteen months, because I feel like
we work in media, it's moving so fast. So what about you five years ago, maybe doesn't help him today, but in the last eighteen months. Why are some of the things that you have done? You feel like have been the most beneficial for where businesses today, absolutely so one of the things that I think has been the most men
fish on. I want everyone. That's listening to really here. This is people
Rachel and I were always like what is next for us. What is it? What is the next thing we're going to create? What is next extreme we're gonna write, what is our next products and
the beginning of the year. I plan to create this giant new course, and it was just going to be this big big big undertaking.
And all of a sudden I got pregnant, and I was super sick and, like three months totally down for the count. Wasn't planning that into my editorial calendar and so.
We had the pivot in change and what I think is the most beautiful thing that came of. Is you
I always have to be creating new things. Look at once already working for you go back and tweaked
Where can you analyze the data working? You change things.
In so instead of creating this giant brand new course we said you know are automated things are doing great. How can we make them even better and so
that has absolutely change things and really given us products that we are so proud of
another thing that I think has just totally made a difference is outsourcing. I could
do the things I do at the level that I do them without this incredible scheme.
I look at this year and the last year. It's really
in building this team up so that they can keep things running either while I'm gone while I'm sick, while I'm on maternity leave or while I'm creating the new things are only. I can create an ass
entrepreneurs as human beings, there are very few things that you are a pro add that that you are passionate about
your excited about, and yet we ended.
Our days with, like the ninety nine other things that we drag, that we still got that take us too long and
really getting honest about. Where do I best serve this business? Where do I best serve my community and audience, and what are things that I can get off my plate so that I can get back to that? Good stuff has totally changed things.
Then I would say the last bit issues automating
what can you automate in your business? What are things at your spending time doing every single day that could be Ottoman?
I know it takes time to set those things that, but once you do it and they are right
for you. They can give you results even while you're resting, and I think that busy as such
badge of honor these days as entrepreneurs we're just I'm just so
oh busy under so overwhelmed and so stress, and we have to stop
making that something that we glorify like something we praise, and so I am all about, like automation and figuring out how we can all work more rest into our lives that were showing up everyday excited about it as you so stinkin good. I am. I think that such a great point, two and and probably something that lessons need to be taken for a second, especially if there are those who are building
scaling are growing or whenever you're doing your business making sure they
just spending all day on to do list, but not actually seeing any results
So often we're like excited a czech things off the list that we do
sit back and look at it and think like mandatory skinny anywhere closer to Michael.
I goal was to write a book gray and I spent all day researching and laying it out and dry
getting ideas and talking to my girlfriend over coffee, but did you write?
anything like it.
I am sure that you are not summoning all your time, hustling hustling hustling, but there's nothing to show for it. So I'd like that
such a set, your great piece of advice, I love the idea of looking.
Your content. I think, especially for people like us.
Came from the blogging world. We have so much content.
Like my husband wanting to shake my
Can you by the shoulder so my teeth rule because he's like Rachel
We use the star like to take it
pictures the content still so great it's from two years ago. You have to
thousand more followers now than you did. Then they haven't seen this thing, which
owe it to them in a different way, rather than you trying to reinvent the wheel over and over again so often piece of ass, a piece of advice
How are you feeling about been workin? Mom
is that scary? Is that exciting like what? What does life
like in the next year,
It is all the thing. So if you
follow me. We ve had quite the journey. We ve been very, very open about it, but in the last two and a half years we had two miscarriages
I made it to ten weeks both times and it was just Devon,
saving, and it was one of those things that just really year,
kind of me: stop dreaming about life in a really made me dive, headfirst into work, probably not them
healthy way, but-
Do you know my hasn't? I've been married for seven years and we always kind of jokes, like maybe one we're thirty one gets mainly under thirty, while I turned thirty this year
and after just a lot of changes in our lives and a lot of praying and in a lot of just
really saying are we ready to try? This again
You know we got pregnant in an age
has been just such a roller coaster, I'm about halfway through my pregnancy, and it's just been a very there
blasted season, because we are so
so think for, but is also a terrifying like after you
been through law like that, like you don't relax ever, and you know I was so disconnected from this pregnancy from the very beginning, because I was just so protecting myself like if this is to happen again, what is going to happen to us, but in
site which everything is ours: twenty twenty
seeing the way that God has like prepared us further. This exact sees in if we would have had a baby.
Two and a half years ago, when we first got pregnant our law,
were so different. Drew was slinging wine from ninety five in it
bring grocery stores. I had no team. I was burning the candle on every single and the like.
That we led back then are so different since I feel like with each laws like losses, the best teacher ever it's the hardest.
Nature, but it is the best teacher and so over the last two and a half years we really created this life that will support this journey.
The parenthood, and so it so funny, because
for so many years. I like I'm in it
This work, in my eye, one alike, have the corner
Office and where powers you can high heels? I want to come home, my husband's going to have dinner ready and the kids are going to be all cute and whatever in and now I'm just in this season, where I'm like. I want to prepare so that if I have this chow
then I decide I want to take a year of just totally laying low that I can do that.
My business, can support that. I saw it.
This is totally different head space and, of course, its share vying or laughing now cause we're like. Oh I'm never going to do this and I'm apparent and we're like you need to write these things down, because in about four months we're gonna be doing all the things you said we would never do, but you know I
that for so long my business was my baby and I wasn't ready to give that up in an hour.
Giving that, but I am giving it time, Sudan,
I can really do the best work, which I think will be being a mom, and so I am really
cited, I'm nervous, but I think we're just ready for a worlds we rocks and I think to as entrepreneurs
I was almost my biggest fear. This is so funny about. My biggest fear was that I would have this baby and I would say that all the work I had done for all these years. It was so insignificant compared to this child, and now
the legitimate fear of mine, and I think
now I realize it wasn't for nothing I've
and so many things
I'm about to do the best thing I ever aims, as I did I honestly the day that you announced to uninstall Brown.
Girls in our office screamed like our sister was pregnant, like we were silver like nobody knows you, it felt like we're so excited you guys are so incredible taken everybody
long on this sterner this journey and be so vulnerable and talk about the heart there
yes and I'm sure I can even imagine how many women have reached out to you
similar stories and and talked about how you helped and again you talked about this in the programme
so I think if anybody is listening in and you will have a similar story, you wanna hear how Jenna Process TAT when it looked like you gotta go: listen to the gold airport cask as its there, I recorded in up its sewed Polly. I think those like a week or two after we lost her second
be in it is the most raw thing. I've ever hit pub
gene and an eye, it's really hard for me to go back and listen to that. Just goes in such a hard place. But honestly, I was the most honest look inside of that pain
die. I'm really glad that I did that existing. So often we want a kind of avoid those seasons by I'm kind of glad that I-
had aunt JANET
if you so much for always leading the way for always being the one who will hold her hand up and be vulnerable
be a leader and show the rest of us what it looks like to live a good life
I think that you are the person that you are on social media and,
afraid. Your women are really good life and I hope that it just keeps getting richer
and more beautiful- and you know I m Fraid so hard for
baby, which I am positive, that girl and you can just name her Rachel. I put that thing.
Look at me,
but thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us and to share your wisdom and just your light with
related am super grateful to have you as a gas and have you as a friend thank you Rachel. This was so much fun.
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Twenty lies that I once believed that were keeping me in my own way. I have written this
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at lands that I'm talking about the ways that I was getting in my own way and I think in
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