Due to the graphic nature of this killers crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder, rape, assault and animal cruelty that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen on a crisp fall evening by the light of a work lamp. The farmer sharpened his knife in the barn before him hoisted up by its ankle. Hung his prey. Its blood had emptied onto the floor. Pooling around the farmers work boots. The man started his work. He moved with scale, he had butchered hundreds of pigs, but

For this, the motions were nearly automatic. At this point. He carefully removed the internal organs, leaving a clean slate. His face stared blankly, emotionless ass. He worked once done. He set down his knife and wiped his brow with his dirty flannel slave ass. He gazed upon his work. He couldn't help but feel a little accomplished for his first human. It didn't look too bad hi, I'm Gregg pulsing. This is serial killers. A parking regional. Every Monday we dive into the minds and madness of serial killers. Today we're going to take a deep dive into the life of Robert Willie picked him one of Canada's, most infamous sir killers, I'm here with my co host Vanessa Richardson high everyone at par cast, were grateful.

You are listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at PAR cast an twitter at PAR cast network, and if you enjoy today's episode, the best way to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you listening. It really does help. We also now have merchandise had to park ass dot com, slash, merge for more information, canadian police believe Robert Willie Picton operated from nineteen ninety one to two thousand two. However him it started as early as nineteen seventy nine when vulnerable women first yeah mysteriously disappearing in Vancouver by day really was a pig farmer by night, Willie Troll, Vancouver is notorious, Lee Seedy, downtown EAST side district for its victims, Lee preyed on sex workers, many of whom struggled with substance abuse who he could easily

look back to his home with the promise of drugs. Once back on his farm. Willie would rape the women then kill them feeding their remains to his pigs. Willie was ultimately convicted of murdering six women, though he was charged with twenty six total care things and would later confessed to forty nine murders, making him one of Canada's most prolific serial killers. This will dive into Willie's childhood learning about strange family and life on their farm, which may have contributed to his twisted career as a killer. Next week, discover more about the murders Willie committed, including how he managed to evade police detection. For years, Robert Willie Picton was born on October, twenty fourth, nineteen, forty, nine

Leonard and Helen Louise Pictor Willie was the middle of three children. Linda was the eldest. His younger brother was named David Willie's entrance into this world was a difficult one when he was born. His umbilical cord was wrapped firmly around his neck. Willie's family later wondered if this incident may have resulted in some sort of brain damage. At the time, however, will seem to develop relatively normally Willie in his family lived on a sprawling farm in port cook, Witless Canada about an hour EAST Vancouver. The pretty was a remote wooded area filled with streams and plenty of wildlife. In many ways it was an idyllic place to grow up. In other ways. It was a hard life for little boy, Willie's, earliest memories of living. In a converted chicken coop when winter, when he was about three, he cried too much for his mother Louise to handle. So she kept him in the coop for the better part of a year.

Until he had learned to stop crying at night, the only running water in this early home came in the form of a spring running under the floorboards. Young Willie would lift up a loose, floorboard and scoop up spring water to drink the idea of a toddler living in a chicken coop, what horrified most parents, but it's hardly the most disturbing of Willie's early memories. Picton later told police, he remembers receiving a severe beating at the age of three. After accidentally crashing his father's truck Willie claims. He was left alone in the driver's seat, while his father tended to pigs in the back of the truck. He accidentally put the truck in gear and drove it in My wall, most parents, in that situation, would blame themselves for leaving a toddler behind the wheel of a running vehicle, but the pittance weren't, your typical, loving parents, Willie's Father Leonard, was distant and

easy. Wanting little to do with the burden of raising children. Will his mother, who was sixteen years younger than Leonard, was a more involved parent but a highly eccentric. One Helen Louise Picton, like Husband Leonard, did not care all that much for standard hygiene practices, almost all of Louise's tee, had long rotted out, while the hair on her head extremely thin and wispy. She began going hair on her chin that eventually developed into thing resembling a goatee Louise's remembered by neighbors for her screeching high pitched voice, usually heard around the farm shouting for her boys to come in from the Barnes. In fact, Louise's obnoxious voice was sometimes the best way to tell Leonard, apart from Louise, both were the same outfit of ready, old t, shirts and men's genes, though Louie is always wore a house dress over her genes. Worst of all was the punch

smell of manure that seem to be permanently attached to the family, a smell that hit passers by in the back of the throat and seem to sustain their clothing wherever the Pickens went, the foul stench always lingered behind them, much to the chagrin of the townspeople, while its clear that the pig in family did not make personal hygiene a priority. This smell was more than just body odor, as it turns out Louis, a rather relaxed attitude when it came to the animals on the farm, meaning they were allowed to come and go through the house ass. They pleased the house was constantly full of dogs ducks chickens. Pigs with the animals came mud and manure, both of which were dragged across the floors and rarely cleaned up. The children would get a bath about once a week. If that, but the smell never entirely went away, it didn't help that will

he despised showers and had an irrational fear of getting water on his face. This lack of hygiene was so noticeable that local children were taught Willie, calling him piggy. Not only did he smell but really had a learning disability by third grade he was placed in Spain, health education, which only served to exacerbate the bullying he was already experiencing. The tv from his classmates stuck with Willie teasing, can have lasting detriment until effects to one psyche. Dns is going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode. Please note: Vanessa is not a licence psychologist your psychiatrist, but she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks. Gregg bullying has profoundly lasting effect on children who experience at some time even shaping our choices as adults. Research conducted by doktor, my

Gee Turner, a professor at the University of North Carolina Charlotte, concluded that those who are chronically bullied in their youth are more likely to be convicted of a crime, as an adult really was a very withdrawn and quiet boy. Rarely speaking at all, however, when he did speak, he fumbled his words and spoke much too fast. The result speech impediment it didn't help that most of the kids at Willie's elementary school, where the children of doctors and other upper middle class professionals, his classmates, were all incredibly well dressed and well spoken. The result of a privileged wealthy upbringing Willie and his elder brother Dave stuck out like source. In their dirty hand, me downs and shabby haircuts which Harkin's to obey, gave Europe Sciences study done by the FBI. Seventy one percent, the murderers profiled in the study experienced some sort of sense of isolation in their childhood icily.

She was a feeling. Willie was no doubt familiar with between the frequent bullying and the lonely. Life lead on a large family farm. It's possible. This shall isolation led to Willie's, bizarre and disgusting behaviour as a child, or perhaps it's his desire and disgusting behaviour influenced by his dysfunctional parents that led to his social isolation. Willie's neighbours often told stories about how Willie allegedly used to crawl inside the warm hollowed out carcasses of freshly gutted pigs when he wanted to hide from people. That's not the kind of habit that attracts friend neither Willie nor the Picton family ever confirmed this story, but it is a seemingly plausible one considering how the family was anyway. In addition, www strong bond with the animals on the farm, while Willie had few or no friends at school. He at least heavy animals on the farm in nineteen sixty one.

When will he was twelve. He took thirty five dollars. He had carefully saved up and bought himself a calf that livestock auction Willie quickly bonded with the animal and would rush home after school to take care of it. This calf meant everything to Willie Being is isolated, as he was both socially due to bullies and literally due to the large farm land. His family lived on. Willie was likely yearning for companionship. This calf was a huge source of happiness and comfort to him. One day, Willie rushed home from school and went straight to feed his calf, as he did every day accept this time the calf was gone. Willie frantically searched the property looking for his lost calf, then he realized the door to its inclosure, had been locked, No way I could have gotten out some one had to have let it out Willie's father, seeing how distraught he was suggested. He checked them

burn Willie immediately ran over and threw open the large barn doors. The right inside with scar him for life there being upside down by its hind legs was Willie's beloved calf. It had been butchered, the carcass was already hollowed out the pig carcasses. Some say Willie like to hide in Willie, looked into the cap's black lifeless eyes. He looked down and Eliza he was standing in a pool of his calf's blood. Willie refused speak to anyone for four days after this incident. Leonard made matters even worse by suggesting that Willie might feel better. If he ate some of the meat from his pet calf, the boy raged he felt like nobody in his family understood him. His calf had understood him, but now his calf was gone.

Louise attempting to coax Willie out of his anger, offered him twenty dollars to buy replacement calf, but to Willie that calf, with special he had intended to keep it for the rest of its life. There was no replacing it every kid raised on. A farm has to cope with the knowledge that most of the farms animals are destined for the dinner plate, but when will his parents cruelly surprised him with the body of his butchered pet? He learned a different lesson. Young really learned that empathy was a dangerous weak spot to expose. He learned that if he dared to become attached to anything or any one that this vulnerability would be used against him. He became even more socially isolated. Well, Willie did not have many friends growing up. He left the impression on one young girl thinking

on her memories of young Willie. Lisa yelled referred to him as a sweet boy. Lisa first met Willie in nineteen. Sixty two LISA was just five years old Willie was thirteen. Lisa was visiting a store in Port Cook Whitlow, where the Picton sold their meat Willie frequently helped out at the store with his mother. He was working that day when LISA came in with her grandparents, LISA remembers, Willie sneaking her a bag of hot dogs ass a present just like Willie LISA experienced bullying as a child, so this gift stood out as a rare example of kindness from her peers. They wouldn't we connect for more than three decades, but the moment stuck with LISA for life, The next year in nineteen, sixty three Willie's parents purchased forty acres of land on the

far eastern side of port cook. Whitlocke Willie sister, Linda, decided not to come with the family Linda, was miserable between her families, poor hygiene, cruel behaviour and the overall mess that came with life on the farm Linda could not wait to escape, and so after the family relocated. She moved in with relatives and Vancouver at aged twelve. She focused on academics and cut off all ties with her parents and siblings she'd never felt close to them any which didn't seem to bother Louise, who preferred her sons anyway. Besides, she needed them to work on a new forty acre farm. After hearing the news of the acreage sail, the neighbors probably thought the pittance were suckers

local to the area, new, that a good majority of the land was below the water table and rather swampy. Therefore, it was nearly useless as farmland, because crops didn't have a chance of growing there, but the Picton did not care for crops. They were interested in pigs, the family intended to expand their meat business by raising more pigs and chickens. Slaughtering them themselves storing the meat on the farm in huge freezers from which they could sell it to wholesalers or passers by alike. This cut out the cost of hiring a butcher and allowed for higher profit margins by selling the meat directly from the farm. The family had roughly seven hundred pigs on the farm and just like before, victims allowed them free range of the property, including inside the family home. Louise put her boys to work forcing them to take care of the pigs. They were required to feed the

eggs three times a day once very early in the morning, once after school and once late at night, sometimes the workload was so intense tat. The boys missed school altogether. Clearly, Willie missed out on childhood. He was not only isolated socially due to his learned lack of hygiene, a practice that was made acceptable by his parents. He spent most of his time on the farm, a huge expanse of land that kept him away from every one else. Instead of frolic and playing with friends, Willie's free time was spent doing hard physical labour. Not only that, but his living environs was extremely unhygienic. He was surrounded by slaughtered animals and spent his days covered in blood and excrement in nineteen. Sixty four at age. Fourteen Willie dropped out of school Louis saw this as a bonus. Now he would be available full time for work.

The first job Louise wanted Willie to learn as a high school dropout was slaughtering the pigs but will initially refused. He didn't want to do it. Willie adored, Louise, in spite of her poor parenting. So when she referred to drop the issue, Willie unwillingly began shadowing a local butcher. Bob Corrick this arranged soon turned into an apprenticeship for Willie. As a meat cutter Willie wasn't just surrounded by dead animals. He was the one butchering them research published in two thousand nine by sociology and criminology researchers, Amy Fitzgerald, Linda K, Laugh and Thomas Dietz suggests that slaughterhouse employment increases total arrest rates, arrests for violent crimes, arrests for rape, arrests for other sex offences in comparison with other industries. The study examined crime communities with and without slaughterhouses, even after

controlling for other factors such as rates of poverty and unemployment, slaughterhouses vastly outside all other industries in their effect on crime, in particular, communities with slaughterhouse saw a significant increase in violence and sexual crimes really wasn't working at a slaughterhouse, but his work. Conditions were similar to those experienced by slaughterhouse employs all farmers who raise livestock for meat must eventually contend with slaughter, but it's unusual for a family farm to require quite so much year round, Butch, He has really had to do many farmers send their animals away to a butcher or hire a traveling butcher to come to their farm rather than slaughtering animals themselves. Because the two thousand nine study on slaughterhouse workers the arises that D sensitive Asian to animal slaughter, creates a spill over effect, reducing

psychological barriers to violence against humans. One slaughterhouse worker interviewed for the study said quote: I've had ideas hanging my foreman upside down on the line and sticking him end quote, in other words this worker fantasized about butchering his boss. In the same way, he butchered animals. Not everyone response in the same way to the same psychological pressures, for instance, will assist Linda, was able to move away in pursuing education and Willie's brother Dave initially seemed to cope well with his family's unusual parenting style. He stayed in school longer than Willie and even had a few girlfriends Dave seem to be transforming into a well rounded young, adult but unbeknownst to the rest of the pittance Dave was already on a dark road that would soon led him to be

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from the dirty smelly, pig farm for long stretches of time he especially loved being free to attend parties whenever and wherever he pleased. One night toper, sixteenth nineteen. Sixty seven Dave took the family truck out for a joy ride. After having some fun Dave turned around and headed home along Dominion Avenue he drove fast, enjoying the crisp fall air walking along Dominion Avenue that night was Timothy, bear it an eighth greater whose family had just moved to the area. About a year prior Timothy Adjust left his friends house and was walking back home by seven thirty. He had nearly reached this house hours later, Timothy's Father Philip Bear. It was still awake waiting up for a son who would never make it home at around eleven o Clock, Philip phone Timothy's friend, to see if Timothy was still there. The friends said that Timothy had left

hours ago after a night of calling the police with no leads Philip frantically search for a son the next morning. The first thing he discovered was why of Timothy's shoes on the side of the road ass he glanced over into the swamp. He slew off the road near by found the body of his son crumpled in the mud. At some point. During sixteen year old Dave, Picton Joy ride that night he came, ass, Timothy Barrett, walking along the road by the time Dave saw him. It was too late, Dave's truck hit Timothy from behind bring him to fly through the air and land on the side of the road. A few feet away. Dave got out of his truck and looked to see what he had hit when he saw Timothy's lifeless body. He got back into his truck and fled the scene, panicked, Dave,

home and confessed to his parents. Louise and Leonard, told Dave not to worry. They knew what to do. They ordered Dave to scrub all evidence from the truck, including the blood and dense on the hood of they ve got to work. Louise Weiss, the scene of the crime and found Timothy still lying on the road calmly. She rolled him off the side of the road and into the nearby muddy slew. Meanwhile, damage to the truck was more than Dave could repair alone. He went to a local panic around eight thirty at night and insisted that the truck needed to be fixed immediately, Dave's insistence and his nerve. This behaviour raised a red flag and the mechanic refused the next

morning has the mechanic listen to the radio. He heard not a local boy had been killed in a hidden run the night before he immediately thought of Dave and his truck with the suspicious dance and its front end. The mechanic phoned the police, who soon showed up at the picked and farm with a search warrant. Investigators searched the family truck finding damage to the hood and scratches and paint police took samples, paint and were able to match it to samples found on the body of Timothy Barrett. Meanwhile, back at the Corners office, the autopsy revealed that the blow from the truck had not killed Timothy. He drown in two feet of muddy water and slew. If David Louise had called the ambulance, Timothy bear it might work have survived, but Luis Picton was, as always, worried only about her pig farm. She couldn't let a vehicular homicide trial affect your sons of aid.

Ability to serve as free farm labour on December nineteenth nineteen sixty seven a little over two months after the incident, Dave was charged in juvenile court with failing to remain at the scene of an accident. There was no mention of the Hitler manslaughter and its unclear or why no charges were ever brought. The murder of Timothy Bear. It never came to light in court clear exactly why Louise was never charged with a crime, but it's possible that prosecutors didn't think they had enough evidence to secure a conviction. However, the story with spark neighbourhood gossip for decades to come Louise's role. Timothy berets death revealed a sinister side to an already widely disliked women. It was clear that she was protective of her family willing to cover up a cry, I'm in order to save her son, but at the same time

I'm she showed an utter disregard for human life by dumping, the body into a slew Louis treated Timothy, more, like a wounded pig than a human being. It was stream example of the same kind of callous cruelty. The Picton parents displayed towards their own son years earlier when they surprised him with the slaughtered body of his pet calf. If Willie was desensitized too islands by his work slaughtering animals, the same could be true of his parents, who did that job themselves before their sons were old enough to take over, according to Michael LAB wall. Writing for the Yale Global Health Review, its possible that slaughter animals over and over may induce a psychological disorder known as perpetration induced traumatic stress or pits individuals suffering from pits sperience symptom, similar to those seen with post traumatic stress disorder such as anxiety, depression,

an dissociation from reality, but pits patients develop these symptoms after perpetrating trauma not receiving it really looked up to his mother and loved her. In sleep he would later describe himself and Louise as to peace in a pod, especially because Leonard was so distant with his children, Louise became rich role model. Unfortunately, she wasn't it actually modeling healthy behaviour for her kids, Louise's role and attempting to cover up the crime, along with the rather relaxed sentencing that Dave received in court, taught her sons a horribly immoral lesson. It was possible to take a human life and no way with it by the early nineteenth seventies. Willie was the farms primary hog and cattle butcher, sometimes butchering up to two dozen animals a day.

Four Willie killing and butchering a living being was normalized daily behaviour. This is not to suggest that all farmers and butchers are desensitized violence against humans course. Most farmers are law. Abiding people who voluntary He chose a career focused around producing food for others. In fact, not very long ago, most people were farmers in nineteen hundred less than fifty years before, Willie was born. Sixty three percent of Canadians lived on farms, but there were key differences between the pittance lifestyle and the lives of earlier farmers, the pickings raised pigs almost exclusively before the era of industrialized agriculture, family farms typically raised. Variety of livestock species, as well as growing crops. There was also an important shift in sight: apology of animal agriculture during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, historic

and James Mc Williams. Writing for the Atlantic says that before eighteen, fifty most farm start of their livestock as sentient creatures, farmers concern themselves with the comfort and happiness of their animals and sought to me slaughter as painless as possible, but over the next century, from eighteen, fifty two nineteen fifty industrial agriculture took shape. An agricultural manuals began warning farmers against affection for livestock, with some texts going so far as to describe pigs as machines. This was the same lesson depicting taught their son when they killed his pet calf without so much as an attempt to prepare a mentally for that outcome. Willie was shown that if he dared to empathize with an animal this vulnerability we used to torture. Him lay Willie learned another hard lesson about bonding with animals that they wouldn't always return. His affection at some point. In his

lessons, Willie was mauled by an Angus bull. By the time he told the story really didn't remember how old he was when it happened, but he recalled fearing the he might lose a limb and the attack. On another occasion, Willie was forced to break up to bores vicious the fighting over a sow and heat with well fed adult pigs off weighing up to seven hundred seventy pounds. This must have been a terrifying task for a young man. His leg was lacerated by the Boers tusks after receiving stitches in his leg, the young Willie went right back to work on his family's farm slaughtering pigs like the ones that had me old him. This work consumed his days and left him exhausted at night. Willie had no time and apparently no desire for a social life with people his own age, while Willie spend even more time on the farm, Dave, spend time working on construction

sites and even got himself a girlfriend sandy fail. Our was seventy you're old who soon move to the family farm. When she became pregnant in nineteen. Seventy four sandy gave birth to a girl Tammy, followed by a boy Douglas John a year and a half later Sandy became a farm hand working twelve hour days, helping with the animals and various chores. For a few years. His life proceeded as normal on the farm, which was becoming a full house. In addition to the Fore Pickens Sandy and her and dates to children, there were two elderly hired hands who lived on the property ass for Willie. He

actually kept to himself. His life almost entirely revolved around his work on the farm he rarely left, but when he did, he went far sometimes taking road trips all the way south to the United States to do temporary work. Willie did not have any traditional vices, he never drank or smoked and never had any girlfriends. Instead, Willie kept many female pen pals, some of whom you met during his trips to the states. There was even a brief moment where Willie thought he might marry one of his closest pen, pals Conny Anderson, in an unusual departure from his isolated life. Will he agreed to spend five weeks with the tall heavyset blonde in Pontiac Michigan? At the end of the visit he proposed Conny accepted the proposal, but refuse to relocate to Canada. Willie decided he couldn't leave the farm, and so that was that their relationship fizzled by

nineteen. Seventy eight life on the farm took a rather devastating turn. First Leonard became gravely ill with cancer and passed away on January. First nineteen, seventy eight at the age of ninety one he had long Ben Senile and has helped declined rapidly. During his last year's that same year, Dave's nation ship with Sandy was falling apart. It turns out that he had another girlfriend Sandy was sick of it. She finally took the kids and left the next year in nineteen. Seventy nine things didn't let up one bit Louise was diagnosed with cancer. Willie help to take care of his mother S. She quickly lost her strength, feeding, bathing and dressing her Louise Picton died April for first nineteen. Seventy nine at the age of sixty seven Willie was grief. Stricken Dave on the other,

and felt no sorrow whatsoever. Despite the loyalty is mother showed to him after the accident involving Timothy, Barrett Dave was ready to make a fresh start. By the early nineteen eightys, with Louise no longer around Dave started to make some huge changes to his image, as well as life on the farm among the first moving in with his new girlfriend, Vicki Evans Dave also began to fraternize, with the bikers in town who had thriving social seem Dave became infatuated with the notorious biker gang, the Hell's angels, the Hell's angels frequently dealt in mental activity around town through wild parties. He dreamed of joining their circle. Willie stood by and lead Dave make all the business decisions, keeping mostly to himself. He continued to do the work he had done when his parents were alive, including attend. Livestock auctions and maintaining clients. Willie dedicated much

It is time to work, including slaughtering animals, rather than shoot. The animal with a captive bolt gun to kill it, as is typical, and does Israel Slaughterhouses Willie, preferred to slid its throat. Then he would hope the animal by inserting a large hook into its ankle and raising at high off the ground. This man, that of slaughter, removes blood from the animals body quickly, making at ease you're too later butcher it into cuts of meat. The entire operation was very graphic and incredibly, hands on Willie had become extremely familiar with death and, at some point, death became a welcome friend in a moment will learn about Willie's earliest possible kills high its Gregson Vanessa, and we have some great news for all of our incredible cults listeners as it. Thank you for your wavering dedication and support. We re released

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Willie Picton worked long hours almost every day of the week on his family farm laundering and butchering animals, Willie was all responsible for packaging. The meat foresail like Louise, had when she was alive. He stored maiden large freezers on the property until it was sold, while the farm was Willie's biggest interest. He also developed a growing interest in cars, and the contacts taking apart cars was an all that different from taking apart a pig. He realized really had a knack for both soon Willie hobby, became aside job. The Picton brothers began running a chop shop out of the family farm, along with some by Hers, David, become close with the property, was vast and perfect for hiding, stolen cars or parts Willie would later claim they bought their vehicles legally, mostly from auctions, but its clear from later investigations that the pickings were helping their biker friends

cover up a huge number of Otto tests by shopping the cars up and selling them for parts in nineteen. Eighty one Willie hired a few teenage boys to help on the farm while he oversaw the chopped shop and Dave tended to his own site business in demolition. The boys considered Willie to be strange guy who seemed to constantly beyond edge one of the boys offered some frozen ham from one of lilies freezers. After a particularly long shift, the boy felt he deserved the bonus after spending many hours doing hard physical farm labour. He accepted, even though one of the pittance other young farmhands advised him not to. When Willie handed the boy a large piece of frozen meet, it looked wrong. It was dark and a strange texture, more stringy than any pork. It definitely wasn't the fact marbled ham, the pittance pigs produced, while the boy did not know why the mystery meat was. It definitely was

anything that was being raised on the picked in farm. He never looked at the picked and brothers quite the same way and he never accepted food from them again. There's no way to be sure what was in the frozen package. However, we do now a little bit about the appearance and texture of human meet thanks to early twentieth century explorers like William, see Brook who wrote it meeting cannibals during his travels, though he later recount, this story he did claimed to have cooked human flesh. He acquired from a hospital sea broke rights regarding a meal of human flesh quote the stake was slightly tougher than prime veal alone stringy, but not too tough or stringy to be agreeably edible. The roast from which I cut and ate a central slice was tender and in color texture smell as well taste strengthened my certainty, that of all the meets we habitually no veal

is the one meat to which this meat is accurately comparable. There is no clear evidence that Willie picked it as already killing in eighteen. Eighty one when he offered is far man that strange looking ham, butt in comparison to the tender whitish meet that typically comes from pigs. Darkened stringy would be an app description of human flesh. At this time, the Picton brothers were still morning, both their parents as well as managing the family, Farm Willie and Dave dealt quite differently with these stresses, Willie turned inward becoming more and more socially isolated, while Dave got increasingly involved what the Hell's angels Biker gang people began, gossiping about this range happenings on the picked in family farm from bikers who would roar up to the pig farms at all hours of the night to the cars that arrived suspicious circumstances and left the brothers chop shop in pieces.

Nineteen eighty one after the son of a bitch petition was arrested for stealing cars police found out that law, gold teens were being hired by the pic tends to commit the crimes when police came to investigate the farm they recovered. Some of the stolen vehicles, they also observed the strange behaviour of the two brothers Lee they noted was almost devoid of any emotion. He hardly even blinked and was incredibly submissive. One possible explanation for his behaviour is the psychological coping mechanism known as doubling according to level all some people whose jobs require the mechanical repetition of morally dubious and psychologically stressful actions cope by separating themselves into a good and bad self. The bad self goes to work today, necessarily leaving any sense of empathy at the door after work. The good self reappears, of course, Willie

I've just been putting on a show of obedience and harmlessness for the police and after losing both of his parents, so close together here might still have been emotionally subdued because of grief, but perhaps he was in aid, manifesting a good self to talk to the police, separate it in his mind from the bad self who committed crimes. The police continued for a time to get the boys and their chop shop, but ultimately abandoned the case with the police constantly coming to the property and the two brothers frequently arguing with each other

Dave's long time. Girlfriend of eleven years, Vicki found life on the farm intolerable. She laughed Dave quickly replaced Vicki by taking up with another woman named Cathy Way in Burg. Without Vicki, around two discourages partying Dave got either wilder and focused even more on his friendship with the hell's angels, just like when he was a teenager with his first driver's license. Dave never the chance to attend or host a party. Meanwhile Willie was exploring some disturbing passions of his own. He made the drive into Vancouver regularly with a particularly infamous neighbourhood as his destination in the early nineteenth he's. At the same time, the picked in boys were running their chop shop, throwing biker parties and dodging the long arm of the law. Strange thing were happening in Vancouver, is notorious seedy downtown aside district whim

and we're going missing most were never to return the down on each side. District had all the makings of a crime riddled urban area, dark alleys at every block, scalded needles littering the ground and shadowy figures who slink by at night running rampant with evident on each side district where summit specks of society that many consider upsetting and often get swept out at the rug, poverty, drug abuse, disease and sex work, which is why, when sex workers started disappearing from the downtown aside, district law enforcement. Large Lee ignored the issue. At the time law enforcement considered, these cases to be throwaway is appropriate. Named, because that was how society at large viewed sex workers. It was as if these women workers, Nothing more than trash on the street, and their disappearance was almost convenient for police officers. Whenever a sex work or disappeared,

the police no longer have to worry about going to the effort of finding in prosecuting them for prostitution. Then Coover Mayor Gordon Campbell told reporters that, while the orders of these sex workers were unfortunate, their deaths were ultimately for the best, because citizens wanted them off the streets. Its unthinkable today that apply petition could describe any murder as justifiable or within the public's best interest, without causing a career, ending scandal, but at the time sex workers were widely viewed as criminals another factor in the lack of empathy for Vancouver Sex workers, was that many, the impoverished women turning to sex work were members of Canada's first nations. Community indigenous canadian suffer from poverty and addiction at far higher rates and other Canadians. Conditions continue to present challenges for first nations people today, like

did in the early nineteen eighties, when women began disappearing from Vancouver downtown. He sighed indigenous Canadian still face the harshest poverty and worst housing conditions of any ethnic group in Canada. These economic disadvantages contribute to what's now known, to be a horrific five decade and counting trend of violence against indigenous canadian women. The canadian Broadcasting Company CBC maintains a list that currently details one hundred ninety two murders of first nations women and one hundred sixteen disappearance, the vast majority of which are unresolved indigenous Canadians, often referred to in Canada as aboriginal people are more than twice as likely as other Canadians, too victims of violent crime. According to a two thousand fourteen study, aboriginal females had a rate of violent victimization that was close to triple

that of non aboriginal females. Audrey Huntley, a journalist on Ben where's, downtown side has accused pull these media and politicians of wilful indifference towards indigenous murder. Victims says women who disappeared in the area. Have been described as drug addicted prostitutes, even when there was no evidence of either not all of the women who disappeared or work killed in the string of downtown he sighed crimes were indigenous and not all were sex workers, but it seems like the mere pray sense of indigenous women and sex workers in the area was enough to diminish empathy for all missing and murdered women. When Louise Alan, a thirty four year old woman, is thought to be one of the first in a long chain of disappearances in the downtown he sighed District Wendy disappeared on March Thirtieth, nineteen, seventy nine she was found decades later alive and living under a different name and Ontario.

Wendy has never explained what caused her to flee her family, friends and old life, so suddenly, upon being located, Wendy Express to him two gaiters that she still does not want to see her family and did not, and her new name published before she was found. Wendy's family believed she might have been among Pickens victims, its power simple. She had a run in with picked in that frightened, her out of Vancouver, but if so, she hasn't anything about it to police, but even if she never met Picton Wendy story is part of the picked in case. In that her disappear and was the earliest sign of Vancouver, is missing. Women crisis following Wendy was Rebecca Goo, no, twenty, three old woman who disappeared on June twenty second nineteen. Eighty three she was never found next to this here were Yvonne Marleen ABBA ghosts who disappeared after telling family she planned Unmoved,

Hungary and Sherry rail, both in January of nineteen. Eighty four, neither was ever located. Police did later test. Human remains found at Willie Pittance Farm against a dna sample from VON sister Valerie. There were no matches but valley. We still wonder as if her sister was among pittance victims, its unclear. If Willie Picture was involved in these disappearances because of his usual methods of body disposal will probably never know exactly how many women Picton killed or who they were well. We do know is long before his first recorded murder. There were multiple stories about strange, so called pork coming from the Picton PIG farms and the disturbing rumours about Willie's visits to the downtown east side. According to a woman quoted anonymously in the book on the farm Robert, William, picked in and the tragic story

and covers missing women, police ignored rumours about Picton, beating kidnapping and even murdering sex curse in the early nineteen eighties. According the same woman, Picton allegedly attack young teen run away, who was living on the streets in Vancouver around nineteen. Eighty four, the girl had left home to escape sexual abuse by her own father, her while homeless in Vancouver, she ran into Picton, who beat her and attempted to pull her into his vehicle. She barely escaped when the tin girl reported this crime to Vancouver police, the anonymous Francis they didn't investigate, Picton instead giving the victim a choice between being returned home to her abuse of family or being sent to a juvenile detentions. She agreed to go home decades later, when she retrieved her childhood records from the Department of children and family services. The former teen runaway was shocked to discover the

tempted kidnapper named in her long ago, police report, Robert Picton. By that time he was a household name in Canada. Like many of the story hold about Willie Picton early years. It's hard to say if these claims are true because of Pickens later infamy. People seeking the spy like could certainly have invented stories about close encounters with him, but this anecdote certainly does fit with Picton later pattern of preying on the vulnerable. Meanwhile, home under picked in farm Davis, getting more and more involved with the House angels who loved you throw huge raging, part he's really was always a guest at these parties and even hosted big parties himself despite his overall identity. As a socially isolated loner Willie like to cut loose his parties and turned into wild sex orgies according to psychology researcher Doktor Nicholls Davies, Willie's

Social activities were not as out of character, surprising as they seem. She writes. The parties and orgies were away to release the chaotic thoughts, feelings and emotions that were side, a man wearing a quiet mask words in town that, if you wanted a party, the Picton PIG Farm was the place to be the Hell's angels kept drugs and liquor fly wing freely in an otherwise sleepy rural area. These wild occasions became an important part of the social counter for people who, like to partaken group, sex and illicit substances. In nineteen eighty six, a woman named Karen Kaufman, was invited by her sister to attend such an occasion. Karen met Dave, Picton and hit it off with him right away. They began a close friendship that found her visiting the Picton Farm, often Karen

Notice of Willie, strange behavior, but she more or less shrugged off. She recognized TIM to be a loner who was always off doing his own, usually in his own room in the basement. She saw Willie as an unfortunate piece of baggage that came with Dating Dave and avoided him entirely. That was just fine by Willy Willie, much preferred to be ignored by Dave's many girlfriends because he hated when people went into his room having his privacy invaded, sent him into rage. One night Dave for some unknown reason took Karen and Cathy down to the basement to see Willie's room. While they were inside Willie came home and saw them. He became enraged and spitten Cathy's face threatening to kill her. If it happened again, the encounter changed Cathy and Karen's view of Willie forever. No longer was he just the reclusive weirdo in Dave's basement

the more the women hung around the farm, the more they became afraid of Willie one night at dinner he became upset and through an entire glass of milk at Karen Face, Willie wasn't the only one the women feared the Picton brothers had a german Shepherd Guard dog that was incredibly violent. Willie would feed it raw meat from the farm and allowed the dog to be horribly aggressive. Karen recall that at one pig rose dinner the brothers held Willie didn't use the normal pig meat. The farm, claiming the pigs had been sick. She remembered seeing the raw meat Willie gave his dog instead and noticed it looked really strange. It was dark and stringy after that, Karen and Cathy would no longer eat meat from the picked in farm next week will discuss. Robert Willie picked up

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