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the school dot com or just on my main website critical about I come out here. We are on a Thursday. At least this is a Thursday. The data episodes going out number twelve, thirty, seven, twenty one may any segments on Thursdays. We call them. You know throwback Thursday, Slash where are they now we take an in depth. Look at someone who story has evolved considerably, since we first feature that today, in our latest feature will hear from Julia Kelly. Who was one of our very very first case studies. I believe she was episode, fifteen or something on site us will school, which is no twelve hundred and fifteen or twenty twenty five episodes ago. Something like that, so that's amazing. First week of January, two thousand and seventeen or second week we heard from her so Julia is a digital caricature artist, who also owns another full time accounting business. Both of these businesses are very profitable, but how has the global pandemic affected her work? She got some thoughts about that, both as it relates to her business.

And perhaps some advice for you are right. I really push our sponsors allowing this programme to be completely free you. So here's it's on their behalf and then we will keep rolling My name is Julia Tele. If I'm from San, Diego California, I am a caricature artist near my company is J K. Expressions and I was featured in episode. Fifteen my side, hustle is drawing digital. Caricature is for trade, Europe's convention I wanted to be a caricature artist. Ever since I was a little kid, I didn't think I could make a living so I studied accounted in college while in college I applied on a whim to draw caricatures and later land here in San Diego, I got the job I spent a summer. Drawing caricatures at the park started freelancing not fall down

Here we are before I started. Making money from doing caricature is, I was a part time, graphic designer at a nonprofit, and I was also going to college will time. My current gay job is running rigid, bookkeeping and accounting, which is a company. I started with a friend of mine and Sixteen I knew I wanted to have a big company allies Thirty miles of the kinds of company is that you can grow big if you're doing corporate entertainment like caricatures. It turns that that just wasn't the type of company that I wanted to grow. So a friend and I started originates which serve small businesses who need remote, bookkeeping and accounting. We now have for employees and serve over fifty small businesses.

The country before code that I was kind of running around like a chicken with my head cut off, I was still doing caricature gigs, while running rigid, and specifically now I was gearing up UR spring trade shows. These enriches really busy burn Jacob expressions and it requires a lot of travel. But now it's gonna get stuck cancelled and have been able to focus. A hundred per cent on budgets have obviously been really enjoy, I think I'll always do caricatures on side, but they shut down. His maybe realise that splitting my focus the way that I was pretty counterproductive, specifically for caricatures, If you want to do live characters, you have to get in front of people and start drawing, while as soon as you possibly can no matter how did you get or how much you practice at home? If you can't, parties are on the spot with a dozen people looking over his shoulder, you're not going to be a good event artist, so do free gigs, if you have to, but as quickly as possible, get comfortable withdrawing. Why

and on the clock, I'm really glad I'm not a backup business that allows me to keep bringing an income even in a pandemic. I'm also really glad that rigid didn't specialised and only Sir coffee shops, restaurants, which we had planned on doing. Originally. We were thinking of me she down into those areas. So it's kind of hard to plan for a once in a century pandemic, and I kind of looked into being prepared to weather the storm, maybe think about how to make your business an gradual and or have a backup plan again. I didn't planet that I'm really glad it worked out this way. Thank you. So much Julia really appreciate that detailed and honest update I've been following her work for, as I said, several years now actually told her story more detail in the side of a book, so I guess two or three books ago now. I just think it's interesting how she has been able to build two businesses at the same, time essentially so, as you heard running to businesses at the same time got a little bit stressful earlier this year,

and perhaps it was a silver lining when she could no longer focused too much on those events and now she's doing more of the accounting in her where'd. She said I M really gotta had a backup business that allows me to keep bringing an income even in a pandemic. Now, of course, not everybody out, there's gonna be able to start to businesses at once I think this is more of a long term goal like she's been doing this a long time. So, if you're listening and you like- I haven't even started my first idea. Well, that's ok! look to people like Julia. As you know, the ultimate outcome of where you want to be- and, of course I'm sure sure they would be the first to say that she still on a journey she's got a lot to learn. Just like me and everybody, but the point is we all start from somewhere, so the goal is to build something to protect yourself in the event of something unexpected, even something tremendously. Unexpected are unpredictable like the age that we have been in for a while now, and I also like what Julia, said about anti fragile unlucky, miss that just mentioned very briefly. That was my word at the year either last year.

Before this concept of anti fragility. It's it's. A word coined by now seem to love another writer who is also expert in probability, theory and possible. Stop the idea of anti fragile. Is that any english language? There's no word for the opposite of fragile. We often think of something being resilient in a lot of people, talk about like resilience and the power of resilience, but if something is resilient, it just means it holds up under stress. She put some stress, restrain on a person, for example, and are able to hold up that's resilient, but to be anti fragile means you actually get better. You actually improve under stress and strain it once I started understanding this more in thinking about it. I was like wow, that's what I want for my life, and so I think about that, not just with my business, but my life in general. Still, if you're thinking about how do I get my side also, how do I turn this into a business? I think White Julia has done me. She used the word herself, but I think what she has done as it is a living example of the concept of if one businesses is gonna, take a hit.

Other one is poised to do well, because small businesses still need accounting services even now in particular, they need creative solutions. They need help any her expertise, so well done again, Julia and listeners. Let's all work on our plan to be anti fragile. Twenty two, Is our Europe interaction? Last year's aunt I fragile that was just me. European action for everybody this year. If you have a question, if you'd like to update About your site, also, if you like a free caricature drawing actually for that, you need to do in yourself because you don't want one for me. Come decided on Godaddy COM, slash questions later, but first thanks we featuring them throughout the year along with updates mother listeners as they launch their projects. Thank you. So much take care of yourself wherever you are I'll, be back again to Morrow with another episode. My name is crystal about. This is cycles. Grow up.

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