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Hey slow burn listeners we'll something special for you this week. It's an episode of broken record, a music.
Podcast from Pushkin industries, co hosted by Malcolm Gladwell, amusing producer, Rick Ruben.
In the episode, Malcolm and Rick,
quest love, he talks
but the music of his childhood and about his memories of the move police bombing in Philly. You lost
their quest, get behind the drums to show the evolution of his playing
a turns- the tables ass regrouping about his own hip, hop history, including working other debut albums from L, a coup J and the Beastie boys check out
episode so ascribed broken record. Where were you get your podcast
and you can see some amazing studio session photos on Instagram at the broken wreck
pod. I won't talk a lot about Philadelphia to greet your born in seventy one. Seventy one
You come of age in a very strange period in the history of Philadelphia, right, Frank Rizzo,
move me all kinds of strange, Teddy
Hendrick grass I mean, and I lived on Osage Avenue, v
may 13th nine
I'll, never forget
the sea for, for every other, philadelphian
They remember every detail of that day, because that was the move bombing. What I got dumped.
My first girlfriend them a ninth grade that they so for
all other reasons that was laid the worst day ever in my life,
just every detail of at night. I remember, like I remember,
Tony Orlando guessed at on the be show that was like the last episode season, one a murderer
the first time ever heard of
bustle in your head, growl,
the legend of backwards, masking of lead Zepplin every her. What's up
before them, but twenty twenty did. This report on, like,
our children being possessed by demons in additive number seem a quote.
This very weird funds, bustle in your head, growl
and then we got a note on the block that if that fight
continues in the next few hours worked to vacate our house by that point.
When I got home the bomb adjust went off a blocks away.
By the time,
twenty twenty was on around ten o clock. It was like maybe sixty five or six blocks.
So I suggest just so. People now move deserve a black national movement
the outcome of communal based in West.
Alpha right and they had a kind of run
with the city better run in with the city in nineteen? Seventy, seven vat!
Philadelphia know what it's like, etc.
If you were live at the time to be under the tutelage of Frank Rizzo
like all that we see now. Is current administrations no surprise to us cause Philadelphian lived?
It is a guy that, like routinely had a baton or his hip, even at light, you know black tie
dinner affairs and went not so he sector prototypical, modern American
yes, like he'd, I
within him said. You know we were always aware of that particular political figure
And thus I mean you know, I don't know that
that makes us more work than others or whatever, but
growing under mayor result. This prompts that
anyway, so new
move the organization.
I believe that its started over like a noise ordnance and then it concluded with you know.
All of them.
Coming out of the House naked August to humiliate them or what not. So it is really the spark started
nineteen, seventy seven and then cut too
eight years later on Osage Avenue, the black eyed report.
You know oftentimes people to saw them as radical. Like it's weird now, like you see people with locks, you see them. You know, like you,
like the person has knowledge or their dinner, but
back. Then it was just like you know.
Radical, like use, offers withdrawal accede to start like a like.
Especially if you like re southern Baptists. I christian you each startling out. These are heathens or whatever, and I know that
believe didn't they.
Like the first begins, I ever knew
They were self educated and that sort of thing like their kids, wait. You're you self teacher, kids at home and that
we're so sources like such a radical way. We just always looked at them at different as different amen.
I just remember like from May twelve
from four may eleventh want
may thirteenth like yours, does nothing but.
A city under siege. Would you know
Worryingly, mayor bombed
firebomb, not Rizzo, Wilson Good was are yeah. He
Yeah, I guess there, I don't know what thing is you have them? The Senate homes are connected.
Ro homes are connected similar to that like sums,
I've seen in Brooklyn what are
acted together, so we're not separate so would view bomb. One house, you basically gonna effect the
black and I I think they're logic was.
Quotas, but this law explosion.
Explosive device on top of their roof and then
scare them out of the house which they didn't they like we'll kill us. So I think of the thirteen
people there were in the house alive,
died and only to survive.
Ramon Africa, Birdie Africa thing Birdie just passed away, something of of
famine ashore. I didn't realize this is literally so that the cops firebomb the houses remove was living.
Fire spreads and you guys are literally a couple blocks.
Higher spreads and yeah. Like a sorrow for the eighth avenue I lived on fifty. Fifty second was like the epicenter of West Philadelphia,
and a minute appetite in field.
Even though there are therein
gunshots in everything like even like, like our lead, anchor
You know like when you cut me,
that people like send their people in danger like with, if there's a bat, whether something like
the blow in the wind and the attorney
that sort of thing like they're, sending out why Jack Jones, like he's
hide behind like cattle
I can do here in the background in sight, Beirut and
he's, given my cookies Jack Jones reporting I, from March with Avenue so
it was that type of action we did, we didn't take it, we didn t
seriously until maybe
a pm that we realise, like oh, the entire Blackburn down,
the entire next block burned down
and then the entire next blackbird. Now three city blocks is burnt down so
they finally contain the fire, but you know
three o clock in the morning. Every reach, my neighborhood,
Which would have been a different outcome? We still even I only we bring this up, because we keynote people always talk about how how much the racial antagonisms in places like allay fuelled rise of gangsters
that kind of stuff, the racial situation in Philadelphia made illegal, look like a picnic it did put.
You know that the one thing that we really didn't have that Ellie Head was, I mean we release
We swell start our gain culture.
Like now is that was.
Really over by the time I was born.
I'm in gangs were thing of course, in the fifties and Sixtys, but
by the time I was born.
You know my parents explained to me that Westphalia
of you at one point was
an integrated kind of neighbourhood
middle class neighbourhood
they once had like a fashion boutique, but that of course,
by the MID sixties, he kind of retired from
a mom sorted Britain,
from her print model days, Inn.
And they are
The fashion boutique, but you know they would go to New York at the
You know they were like.
Well to do high fashion boutique spot, but once and sixty eight after
the assassination of of Martin Luther King and rights,
throughout like a lot of other cities.
That basically said, like white flight started around like mighty
sixty nine or mid midnight in sixty eight, like suddenly
All the store or knows you were wages, fled to the suburbs. In kind of you know,
Left it, as is you know, dilapidated buildings, neglected building.
And that sort of thing, and then they
Sighed the closed their booty down and
by seventy, seventy one-
Had come full circle and the Clark
You know he's throwing these shows at
square garden in Philadelphia spectrum. That sort of thing- and so am I
By the time I was born.
The all these do out Nostalgia Loop, hedge,
start. So I
grew up. Thinking like Frank, you wanna teenagers white brand new, like that type of thing, sir,
Backstage vetoed God. I think there's a phone
Jackie Wilson hold me
I grew up backstage with you notice
all the all these do out legends yeah sitting your household, drawing up Europe to your dad is, is a has an extraordinary record collection? Yes,
So what are you? What are you listening to us as it as a kid? Are it so.
I grew up with three very distinct erect a collective
my dad- was into what I would
sort of joke only say, is the yacht rock of his day here.
And two matters,
Stress in local groups might hear pits
so you know it lit. It seemed tat. Sounds in my house as a kid I was like. Peace was whatever
Once I got older realise their harmony game is bar. None then add
it? Anybody like Flanton harm me to the next level, like my dad, was a one off
Was it the next level users?
like a napkin coal type,
More funky and hip, she would buy records like like a great digger,
or rhetoric. Lecter in my day does like you look the cover of a monkey Gabby. Some like that's how she collective MECCA famous, I of players
so funny. You say that because I get a car,
b of honey
when I'm six years old.
And a quarter
it's like is this January twentieth
nineteen. Seventy six,
happy fifth birthday, a mere. We love you very much mommy and daddy em white.
As to whether outcome on my YO light new
guys realize what you gave me why we like it or not. It is a very beautiful, very, very naked woman,
but they were just like. We saw it as high art, it must have been. Even I didn't see it s, laces like oh, my God, whose is why are you know, just saw a theme of ok red or how players I'm cover looks like black playboy
blending in with her eyes middle school friends and eventually her high school friends. Because
sir, ever to adapt their taste.
She's bring it home
she's bringing home bogey
bring it home fall cat like so all that stuff.
In the main role in the household was don't touch my stereo, so
I'm not allowed to.
Choose what I wanna hear so to be forced to listen to what they want to hear. So
I really am adults,
vocabulary with music? By the time I was ten? How would we
Rick, how similar is this to your musical childhood
I was just an obsessive music thine own hang on record stores all day, and I remember that that used to be a thing
I can remember the first time I was in a record storing. I saw an end sort of its laws
for this, because the record came out much earlier, but I remain.
Finding the aims.
First seeing that first album cover
and then listening to it and thinking well, Missus during Punk Rock times like. While this is
it's kind of like punk rock but its old, but it has,
that energy has a frantic energy and that really excited me and then I can remember. Ok
Like the empty phrases like whilst not exactly like them. But then it leads you to examine the stooges in.
I can just remember these.
revelation of hearing a new remember the first time I heard their moans and just like didn't have
The point of reference for it do
I was like invested in it to me.
I hate to say this
finally, listen to the entire remains album from start to finish.
Eight days ago and I'm so mad that it took me so long to do it, what to do
Ok, this is the way Miss thing ever
added at a creative.
Kind of fork in a row right now as far as digging is concerned, because
Why lot of collected music, I played appeal so specific audience,
I'm trying to figure out more creative ways to bring them out. Cuz. Of course, like you know, the people that, like the music that I like are older, they have kids
come down to three in the morning
I'll, say my last year so I've been doing.
Saturday afternoon, Dj Sunday afternoon, Jean DJ, so that its family friendly parrot skin
Come on, you know relieve their club days in the kids. Given you know what you know, it's it's
it's mine. It's my version of rain, reinventing hypocrisy, hop hip to be a community based.
Afternoon, sort of thing that sort of thing
and I did and ice skating link.
Of which I didn't have
I knew it would be a lot of kids there and I was like I will
Let me make sure that I'm playing kid friendly stuff, twenty nine that just happened to just look on the internet. I was like alright adult music. That kids seem to like as well and, of course briskly I can't pronounce.
The authorities gang, but
was listed as
As always, we met at sports sports events.
I didn't have it so I downloaded it and
Charlotte. All the songs are under two minutes and thirty seconds humanism, thirty seconds and
as a songwriter. As I spoke to you before, like not focusing one singles
I'm now obsessed with people that I've had successful singles under three minutes, because
It's one thing to you know: do these well thought out
introspective eleven minute, free jazz, stuff
the routers such artist, but it's like.
Can we do in our duties a punk. Can we,
Make an effective song with bare minimum
and in three minutes, can we be just as effective. So now I'm trying to study
Minimalist effectiveness, interest and so Eric
as a writer. It's why I'm obsessed with commercials always been assessed the commercials because they tell us toy in thirty seconds
you know and if you are a writer- and you know how hard it is to tell a story, you are you put the person who writes everything commercial at the
the list. The only reason I'm obsessed with this is because now that I work at the two might show, we have to write eight second jingles,
of which you had to have narrative of what the title is
some verse about you know
Writing. Eight. Second songs is sort of our version of commercials. So how often this is a question about you as producers. How often do you say to the artist you working with make it shorter
I never do unless, unless it's boring, it's like it's really. Every every piece
has the link that it wants to be.
I have a question for you: ok,.
Don't fight for you, write a party I'll say the last four years are the original demo version with.
Extra verses in it and yadda yadda yadda. So.
What do you know that a masculine,
mainly because I just read the Beastie boy book so.
In your head.
How did you have that? Much discipline to know
what to reduce like you're, famous for reducing stuff
in taking elements away, so that it does not suit, and in that case I dont remember ever being longer them. What
there's like an extra versa mare that
is taken away. So I wonder:
love to hear it, because I have no recollection of it ever being longer absolutely days. It would be unusual for us to shorten anything really.
So even then you weren't thinking like ok, three minutes and thirty seconds and never in my life, and I thought that
So you don't have Clive Davis years and not in the least.
When I'm with you so balls, I with it like,
It's my you literally. It has to do with growing up where I grew up and listening to the Beatles so that the first
formative music for me was the Beatles and those.
Short pop songs. So I had that.
Of goodness in me, for
the time it was a little kid that was just
All. I knew that
good and when I would hear something that felt like
It's too long, but some you know I like
It was too long, but
you know I like ten minutes.
I mean why has gone. It must be one of my people,
Groups is trouble funk and if you listen to music and dry goes forever right what heat
being seriously modest right now, but like he literally
mother rose revolutionary thing that he brought to the world of hip hop
Was he literally invented the Vive three minute song?
White before him
even a song is as as sticky and friendly as the message by Graham S request.
That was still eight minutes planet.
Because you're thinking of the club in keeping the groove last a long time. That sort of thing you know,
L, l wigwam, we got aloes record had.
The old, besides a four minutes, long like we never even fathom that
You can have an effect of hip, hop record or song to be three.
And it's in fifty seconds
why just see in those times ordered the deaf to him.
Thing or such like this is what
like, what's going on it, but
to you. That was just like
the anyone else like resist that and on it was just based on grown up with the Beatles that was it wasn't. It was not at all a pre
meditated in any way it was natural to me and when I would get
You know, I collected twelve inch,
twelve into line with that times, every hip hop record, came out twelve and pretty much. That was the main format of the day right. So I would get these see. No Jimmy spice records that were nine minutes long and be or twelve minutes long and
always seemed like they were made.
Weren't made to listen to. They were made to dance to right. They weren't, you know they weren't, it wasn't
they weren't long in service to the song right
and I've always why
did to work in service to the song, whatever that is in, and sometimes it's poolside of an album. Sometimes
our mid that you know
oh, what a papa was. None of that stuff until.
It wasn't until I started DJ like me: look throughout history every
Has done a lot of ours dj somewhere Rick Study.
Jimmy JAM that.
Doktor Dray like his situation. The reason why he so good
because if you played the wrong song, the club might get sat up so imagine the Mdgs under those those tints conditions,
It's almost like you have to have a winner out the gate up version of that famous statement. The prospect of a hanging in the morning concentrates the mind wonderfully in this case.
Of shooting in the club. Yes, Hyacinthia hits the dj wonderfully. We can you. This is
you don't think I've always been obsessed with, and that is that when you get immersed, as the two of you are in music.
What happens when you listen to music? That's not your own! Can you turn the critic off and appreciate it with your with a kind of
passing judgment, or are you actually?
do sing a song in your head? Is you listen
much anything I here, I'm always thinking of
it was more like this or like. I just imagine it sounding different and it's hard to em hard to
turn off the producer brain. I it's one of the reasons I really like us in classical music and jazz, because I don't I don't
that same feeling. Listening to that music, but listening to her Barbara listening to rock music or more often than not, I'm
Producing in my head, there's there's one example, which would be fun to talk about costs
you involved is
the De Angela Voodoo Album to me
absolutely perfect. It's it's the
It's the first time I can remember listening through to an album.
King. I had something to do with it because it was so good. Just like my oh, my god. This is this,
everything I want an album to be, and it was
Unlike anything I've ever heard before
it's scary time period, man because
virgin reports, which it did that
man, there you know
there is a lot of.
Ok! When will you guys actually start? The real record now stop messing around and we're look at each other like this is the right
you want me to tell us how you got involved with the actual another.
the Angelo and Eric about do, coincidentally, on em
April fool's one, ninety six on one toward the Fugees and the Goody mob
is the sole train awards weaken.
And you know the food jeez or just
and you know
the food, jeez or Jes.
Beginning buried there. There cresson to the stars
the score album. So there is a lot of playful sort of tension between the two groups
and come in
this point you know the roots become like such a well oiled. Machine live like
we. I keep their estimate tonight, we're we gotta, do it and-
Getting on my drum set and seeing
I didn't know who Erika was I assume at the time I was his girlfriend. You know she had the tall head rapporteur,
but I knew the Angelo silhouette cause. He was like front. I could see his silhouette frightened,
behind the lights?
and I remembered that
I dismissive Lee
myself out of playing on brown sugar, his previous album
because of the time I was asleep so singers in the nineties. Whatever link on that to us than aren't be guys like nothing about soul,
seeing had moved me,
from any nineties, offering the same way that they wouldn't Otis riding Stevie wondered in Lieu Rawls, like soul, music.
They will I get, he wants you to German is reckoned, looked at him like I'll pass
and then I got round pseudonyms like, oh, my god, this
I could be the one and so
I've been trying to figure out how to get back
Good graces suddenly be there for round to
now. The thing is: is that
because it is rival, we think we have the food geez
was a certain way, but when I saw the Angelo
I decided to call an audible,
Basically, we have
have a conversation with Jes him, which,
meant that I was now about to
throw my entire band off.
Because what I would normally do for a particular into or of a song,
I am now saying,
I am a do this very obscure, Prince drawn, won't see if he gets it some
when the Prince Drum Roll instead and my bans looking at me like you, don't just trying to impress the edge
right, but they don't get that and you know I'm dumped as with it go along with it. So there
they're. Looking at me like you're, thwarting and throwing off the entire show, but the
only person that matter to me in the room at night
was and when he heard that intro he's
It was now and I want to see that actually got Elvis.
And then like that whole show, was the
first time that
the drumming I'm known for now
to come to life
again through my band off like why you plainly good. Like a drunk three earl, my, why are you playing off rhythm? Why you I come
the EU, and the thing was I had to put the
on the hook and throw it out there and once he grabbed it. I was like
not leg, but like bizarre minute drum from now on. So he got it. They were mad as hell at me that night, but he
Got an awful good because then the food, the other food, these records, skipped
so they had a bad form that night, so we want yeah, yeah
after that, then he knew like that was the bears,
african communication thing like I used my drummed tell him. Ok, we
speak the same language.
a song or album is the last day of recording
and we have like seven hours left, so we discuss continued.
To play and there's like will combine next week, come on.
We commend the fourth time. I met
Lady studios for what will be a five year tutorial.
An education in problem
the greatest creative periods of that was. That was my becoming an adult. You know
Just every day like I was Youtube,
cuz I was still doing these mammoth
Grateful dead like towards with the roots.
Spending all my off days at electric lady with him,
but mostly traveling the world collecting any and every videotape performance of some vintage
You know Al Green and one thousand nine hundred and
Would you dont? None are given a play, the rhythm,
back to electric lady
We could study
and after we watch it like two or three times.
When we come in play what we just watched.
And after four hours of messing around suddenly you know him
change the keen
what you don't know given away the rhythm
just a minute and then suddenly.
The morphing of a new song starts and pretty much. Why vote
took five years to make those
Twelve songs, because that was the
slow, arduous price.
As of digging
digging in morphing in digging and morphing him in coming up with China,
we we had to go. We had a similar experience with them,
with them. The first
the boys album, which took I think three years to make.
And it was the same reason. It was like gum, really it wasn't yeah.
looking for these
separation, jumping off points,
messing with those in the studio to make it an interest,
and then we would write to it. But but that would happen.
It happened over a long period of time can remember. I met a totally destroyed before Malcolm, but I can remember being added
front session in May,
He called me really upset. I come or albums not done yet. That's like you can't Russia
it's like you, kids, that it's not it.
It comes when it comes. You know it's not a.
It's not automatic,
its. It reminds me of that that experience of that what's what's
the jam session process like for that time period.
Who's the person, that's like hey, let's
Programme, something on this particular win backwards. Mascot in.
Or or even like this starts and stops in. Unlike the new style or just
I bet, that's another life changing album from me. By the way
waste is still my life changing being stopping lifesaving
But it was done with the same sort of precision you're talking about an end, then it would have been more often than not. It would ve been mean and engineering in a room working on the music fur
long time into I had something that was exciting enough to to
and feel calm
double playing for the band. You know like it had to them.
Really had to be wrecked first, and so many of the drops in things didn't
up until late. It was all rooted in the vocal, so we would fall
There would be that the basic track
which would be.
Either samples or was really loops, then because there was no sampler, yet it was either loops or direct dj in parts.
play rudimentary like guitar stuff, if it, if it needed to be there,
We get the tracks to that point, then we would usually right the words which would
have been over a while.
And then we were always collecting lyrics. Like them mean item harvests would go out to dance Syria pretty much every night and just.
Guph around and try to make each other laugh and if the other person laughed it was usually usable line and
just always like little tiny pieces of paper with script,
notes on them almost like an immediate, that's crazy,
It very much was like that. An end it was, I would say that we were is inspired by Monday, Python and Steve Martin, as we were by anybody doing music. It was
it really was about inside jokes and making each other laugh. Why pricked we have any am. I am conscious of the fact that we have time. I do have one request, though, and that is you mention way back when that you played the Angelo that little bit at lower him in
you can you play that we have jumped over there? Could you can you reproduce that? Do you hear
We are giving sample is their jumping up. Yes, there is ok, so so so the thing is is that by that point in nineteen eighty six, I was very guarded of my kind,
Strict discipline quantifies drumming because I don't want anyone to think of the routes as lesser than a hip, hop group. So for me, I had spent five years to that point being the most discipline like lifeless drummer, so my version of drumming was just enough to play the most disciplined
like no dynamics, no none of those things for from some so and so on. But the difference is
And seeing the Angelo and knowing what language he spoke, I wanted him to know. I spoke that language too. So previous previously, like you know, I was speaking the language of hip hop, which was just light
but once you see the Angelo an audience
we believe this slightly becomes like somewhere,
We fought for meter
twelve, a meter.
And if I really want it
If I really want to exaggerate it like you, you fluctuate like
It's kind of like my version of the loneliness monks, talking about like the the
saw a town all like the notes and between the notes.
And like a broken drum machine, yes, envy would be worse. I played the more excited he got and that's a thing
To do this, like you, have to put the eagle side because
Every German was about evil Knievel like Gospel chaps. That's the thing with generous this. If you gotta gospel chaps that calm, you see some of the most amazing John players that would put NEO purchasing like that sort of thing.
Playing with him there, there was a song on his first sound call eyes of mine, in which.
You know at the time I asked is producer Bob Power I was like. Okay, did you guys like break the drum machine or something because the way that it was programmed
this is out that song sounded, which may be new that he spoke that drunk language. His drumming was like his
programming was like
which you know once Bob convinced me that no we did that purpose.
Then I was like ok. I think it is saying that, but then once our Wooten clan and which
There is a sort of does that with his production, but I kind of feel like it's the accidental tours like diabetic out like I just I programmed it off the light. You know that sort of thing once once we got to that place in that level, then then I just ok. This visit the new anguish, I'm gonna, throw away everything that my mom and dad put me in school for an I'm, just gonna John, like a five year old from now on, but really Sis being human. That's
it's all. I consider a wee wee you when you were plain that way for De Angelo, so you he's anybody's and you're watching and while you're doing this, he stood up a point it. He stood up point, and I saw I even you point out gaming like the black powerfully. Sunlight YO
And he said, like the sentence was YO.
There's one German, that's my brother, like I just
had let him know I get you
It s made you I'm sorry, I'm trying to be down. I speak the same language too, and he got he got him at home. Here,
I think if you, if you didn't, have the training that he had in
Couldn't do the drunk stylist as well? As you did your I don't. I don't recommend people in units.
Crazy. You say that cuz even now, young drummers are on Youtube going to the top of Mount Fuji to learn the fancies thing, and I tell them all the time like you got to start. You got to go to first grade. First, like you don't start off getting your doctorate and my dad was a notorious like he loved that hole
was brown, I'm finding you fight and ours, without role in my dad's known only serves a basically obviously is all the same. I and my head, you know I'm doing is at work as well and
I'm having a conversation with myself, like ok
I do a clean bill, maybe he won't. Finally, twenty bucks
I got away with it and then, when the brisk comes, then I'm like damages sunlight and already ten twenty I'm back here.
My father, didn't hesitate ever to just
you don't even look at me. You just look at his right hand and if he plans to fly five ten fifteen twenty like so
that's. That's where I really got my my disciplined chops room like not wanting to have my salary at the end.
How is your taste in music changed from a time your little kid?
Lately I've been exploring the
duff I should have that should have been listening to.
What it's like! Ok, I'm! A member of a Columbia House record Club like.
Why did I get Debbie Gibsons out of the blue album? You know
why I'm thinking of you know.
What happened? The critic me now like once I discovered rolling stone and suddenly I became like over of rock snob critic, and I know why
biogas record guides went not, but I'm like yeah like
Christine sixteen was the.
Kiss forty five ever Broughton, you know
love, kiss, meets the phantom and then only regional later that, like that, that was their jumped the shark moment or that sort of thing in and
I mean, I know all opinions are subjective critically about action one, but
As far as like.
How I listen to it.
It's weird now like I wish I wish
I could, amid the waiver describing getting an orgasm from music that excitement.
It doesn't happen so much now, because I believe that.
Pardon me knows better. So it's like a kid. You know that,
sorry that you consider good signs that you consider bad then, unlike, but then there's songs that you nor effective and not effective.
And especially as a dj, that world always conflict with me. So, sir,
that I would normally used
my spare time. I know
And work for me well at dj gigs point:
Now I'm interested in and telling stories when a dj, so I plan bees law
at a plan these
meticulous scientifically proven, like
a beautiful man like I'm doing these math graphics of the citizen is key in a cave, isn't he fled and the Beatles modulate to deem and put human week after that, and so that's how I craft my visa gigs out
I did the gig of my wife a six hour, Deasey GIG and Central Park for the
ready for the Tony's.
So from eleven p M to five in the morning
Some of these peoples at I was God every song was perfectly segue Wade was in there
a key. It told a story. People write me letters,
I'm a guy. There is most life changing display of music. You went from
with the frog to, and I did everything anything would- music from Binny Goodman, worn down to drink from nineteen thirty, I covered
And they ate it up like nerds,
I did the same shit at the White House
two days later for Obama's last night in the White House. That famous party fail. Oh yeah, it is.
Ok, so two hours into it
it s me on the shoulder,
don't worry about that. I love you. I love the data, someone else whip up in German, but look at him
but they will not want to,
and he's point to his kids. They are having to sit in their having to sit in ever like looking at me like
nah, not as it works and man. So then I became a dj. I hated unlike googling,
when we go to spot. If I see what kids illicit into that sort of thing, so I became that guy, the guy I hate the most amidst
Midnight became animal health.
By it was the most the batteries the most.
And then I could describe it smells like team spirit, video that give you, but it was like
they consider the best knight we ever had wives and I'm having some.
I heard some story, possibly apocryphal, that involves
you're getting into her getting it.
The dance floor with who ok, that's what the rat Obama like they're, they're, they're, they're, dancing like
He's coming up to me like player the Deference Montana,
sounds like sir
I don't have a clean versions of it
these are going well, don't you got
sir. I'm not gonna play path. Pussy boots what you working with you know. It literally lay I'm like you must greatly all these presidency. Like look at me, I'm a holler president's lay shaking her head like whatever at I will say that jail Carter
everyone was doing it at one point.
At my eye was really depressed because I had planned to
My grand statement
They were to declare a national holiday after me, because I must say I am I'm defunct way dj met light. I knew I was gonna, get a Macarthur genes grant with sit and
at one point.
You know and again on light look in on the internet, some kids like an
Springsteen walks in
and I'm telling you it's you
can't imagine a wilder, like think of you, think of the Eagles backs.
Stories. Think of
queens as release our partied tales. Think of animal house. Think of think of it like that
And that's how, while their party was an Springsteen walks in an insolent panties like we're gonna Party Wolden, any looks at me.
He gives me look.
And six his head a little bit like.
I know you know better than this
and I felt the same like
I'm sorry! I sold out like we. Why does
What is the world's greatest set list? Not work at the White House? What went wrong
So here were his words, so you know it and
I was on the verge of tears because I
built this up to be like this, when we my grand statement about wait for eight years at this moment,
and whenever you build something up in your head and it doesn't go in your favour,
here you can have a nervous Prodi even
the panic at it- and I knew I was gonna- have a panic attacks. I was like China Light
exit stage left and get out of? There is another comment:
because you know there are like play more and I gotta go now. Okay, thanks thanks. So afterwards, I'm walking he's like so you have to get up
Did you ever a good
It was cool because
then I don't want to make it about me like MRS last night.
His night to get loose in everything thereof, everyone's crazy drunken other stuff, like
This was his night, so, like airs cool is. I was wrong.
As you know, on here, uncle, took dummy.
And his. I let me guess you,
yeah you're, like an artist, and I
you planned a year, your grand artistic vision.
Of how you thought the night you go and then work out.
And you're over thinking than thinking met up. Didn't I sucked.
And I was like well yeah there.
So he tells me story, he says
Do, I remember,
he talks about Charleston Medellin, roof situation with mascot
he said he knew that thirty
seconds after thirty
and after that, the shooter
happen that he was gonna have to speak at that fuel. So here
for after he instantly new is Gaga. I gotta go
the speech my career, there's gonna, be my profiles, encourage you know, that's not what you're going to get so he says he has the speech of his life like ready to go, he's been workin on it perfect in it,
And he goes down the track,
since alkaline and
He knew three minutes into that speech.
It wasn't gonna work and so he's lying
go in his haze, I'm not I'm not reaching the people when he's like at those people.
We to warn him in some sort of baseball signal that I'm gonna go. Rogan and Freestyle Morgan them said their light. How are you you're the worse when you go on your own without us
proven script and he said,
Some just told me bears start singing amazing grace, so
then he starts thinking amazing, grace, livable, right and he's like
and everything turned around. He says you know what I did. His ass
I serve the people
I saw that sometimes I figured.
How can I fix this? I took a moment I breathed collect myself and asked.
The people who say in what you did tonight, you saw
the sun was off.
And you serve the people.
Is again, there's this there's otter? Let you do that
I think we had the time or less you serve. The people
You should be proud of you so now do you feel better?
Why don't you let him, anyway,
as as the way
I really must be up
I told my man I stopped
a majority of two thousand sixteen ad,
rejected. Like eighty percent of the gigs like I was, I was depressed
I was just like if you feel it records like what what good is your lifelike?
a that's when I started my thing like one stop dj at night clubs and just do a for the kids and hopefully
like when these paths bring their three year old. Kids here they'll see me do the same way that I was doing on the block party, and I want to do that. That's
that was my mission, but now up his wife asked me to cure rate her.
Her book becoming so
and again they asked me to a put like thirty seconds to go and I want the pudding
one thousand four hundred fourteen under songs.
They like a mere weeded asked where the story of my life, but we'll take it anyways dinner, as I had to redeem myself,
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