In this special episode, David and Thomas Moore reflect on their search for justice and what they’ve learned in the years since their investigation into the 1964 Klan murders of Henry Dee and Thomas’ brother Charles Moore.
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The crime and later died in prison in episode, some of which was recorded during a lie. Presentation in June, David and Thomas reflect on their search for justice and what they ve learned in the years. Since this is a season. Three bonus returned. Two Mississippi you're talking about You talk about people are bound to arise, all day All my days, I very much welcome everybody, so many people, you know, I'm usually in the dark talking on my own into a MIKE, I'm not usually in front of a whole bunch of people like this, but a kind of like it People always is asking the question: what made you get into investigation
The seeking of honesty became one of my lifetime driving forces, and I speak here in a way that makes it appears if I know we're a bean and I, where I'm going, but I'm not. Pretend my opinion is that we never really know why we do most things: everything else is the story filling in the space between to me, the empty space always filling the space, the story, the this basis, what drives everything human, how we fill it, how we make it make meaning for us and the definition of honesty in truth well problematic, But let us agree that seeking honesty starts with being honest about ourselves starts with understanding that the act of telling others truth can offer a kind of release. Some people bran themselves authenticity to make money, because anticipates cells, but it's not the same as truth. Authenticity is the blush of truth. What do you find it? You know it and it will change you. I was changed by working on this case with Thomas more the nineteen sixty four murder of Henry Dee and Charles Moore by the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in Mississippi
and today we are fortunate to have Thomas here with us, one of my greatest friends and one of the smartest people. I've ever met Thomas Moore, Our beggar war for coming here and over there. I wish I had the time to tell you how I feel over him and he had to put up with me. Bye. I return on the motor and I will never a good life, comfortable taken about job more.
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bought that far more time. But I'd better go home. Told me. I gotta have a bad day. Something about what they were and I was able to do they turn around. Often urge master when I told him David amid a minute what ill. But they were asked me to go to MRS until done what ill I said no Mr Livin, in pay. What about us how will understand him. Because I'm free just
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then without war war. Untrue. Remember job more every day A certain way there, so many peoples, well. I didn't want to come to the realization. So we will have a memorial. For a long time until two thousand and sub, though the principle of every day Family just split up. What do I value would be present for referral. Allow me speeches to people than out until you do. I tell them of the memorial day without bearded, not which are more numerous d. Is you. To remind you ever done, repairs butter spot that discussion. Copyright here. Another forever two months ago, invited me or tool And the civil Right Museum Montgomery see Work so hard.
To get a state the more bill, The other jobs more heavily and will replace Right bought one a day without poodle, this this is decide whether memorial is where and radiant Charles more were hitchhiking on maids, Two months ago, invited me sixty four Charles and hundred, were murdered by members of the White Knights of the complex kind of my second my feeling is that some of the sort of more insidious aspects of racism still exist. In the South and in the north. I don't know if you feel says this changed much since we left. I think there has been some chain. The paper that warning to change their may sometimes we're, not know them up but David. I will go run around over twenty times the Mississippi, noble don't bother those to L a hamburger light,
They wanted to stay away. I begged us the affair. Amateur look. If we look at him rather right now, we're still separate. The other. Blacks will reveal the otherwise over here. After you have no small cup that moment used to pull a purse. Then, when the meal, the distant water from about their worries, red color, why they don't have the now With their steel, separate. And we know tat
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So from working on this to be Mississippi case, the Thomas I developed all the hallmarks that would become part of my later work in investigating murder. I learned. Much of what I know from this case, Europe It's really and after I started any the other work about for US chaos, so first family must form the main pillar of any investigation integra meaningful family involvement can be proof against exploitation, because its often levelled at podcast like me that you're just exploding cases to make millions tell her to my sardines. I brought my trip with me:
And, to some extent, I see family and their confrontation of darkness and potential healing that make him out of this is the main reason to do this on a really doing is true crime or whatever I core and justice can only take you so far, once your suspect is convicted and everyone goes home still have that empty space. The mill right. How do you feel about the experience working with me. The songs, astronomer carcinogen. I mean I'm not really plan this question. I never will be able to express the friendship. That we are now back I told him that he just place, job more.
What is more, these more bursting deal is amazed at that time that we came down near never were peaceful man enough to hear a modern version is a valuable piece of amazing be completion. Now you can visit to the morgue and worse than death. Died paths not read a lot worse, they were normal, David, no what is there and when they were kept this principle job more school for years after we met I tell you, will come back.
But I had made a chain. They were made sure that we want the Mississippi and had a territory twelve gay saga- they were, nobody will go to the port of prison. Real snatching are an avenue without into report of president today, I'll see you I was there, they tell you I'll put you helped produce however, may find a shoe, you produced herself the difficult
Would you like that current hunting, but otherwise our most pressing? The fact that we were able to come in here? Let people know we're too common in a bid to do a thing like this telecoms, always good girl, she's more or be about how do how people find justice untruth for themselves, but a different kind of way of looking at allegedly true and the air was not able to deal with it in this day and you get more comfortable like Doktor King GEO have available have. So how does it feel Alabama will say this to those stalls, but I learned how to do so. You don't get over. Please try. We talk about meaning you bob what we will be able to go out and do experience novice carpet. Does all that, but we never talk about. You will no doubt about what that case for your post grow. Wild live nobody. Nobody talks about. The most important thing for me is just as I was able to make something happen, that there was something that I did had some ripple effects beyond us as well, right also with other cases, other people, other journalists. Other families made me feel like there was a wave that we had formed a kind of splashed against the law to different shores. That's what's important to me, and people wanted me to do more. True crime. That's for sure the personal satisfaction of actually helping people like yourself and other family members is what makes me interested in these cases, even though they are taxing, as you know, for your own reasons, but for my reasons there taxing as well, because in every kind of Andrei remission with no just a continuous day, but we do whatever, but it has been a great job, but it does have a sense of finality to this driven got the flowers back we're coming into this grave error. It many times we are living through data would Ribby had he mumbled Brad.
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