You're listening to song exploder, where musicians take apart their songs and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made. My name is Rishi case your way, song exploder is sponsored by Dave's killer, bread. I actually love Dave's killer bread, but they gave me a script. To read so period is attention shoppers we now have taste in the bread, Aisle Dave's killer, bread, that's right, an organic bread, that's no longer a sedative for your tastebuds Dave's killer. Bread is on a mission to make the most of the loaf. to rid the world of GMO Ce high fructose, corn syrup and artificial ingredients and plant the seeds of good in all that they bake, killer, taste, killer, texture, always organic Dave's killer, bread, bread, amplified song exploder is brought to you by progressive. Have you tried the name, your price tool? Yet it works just the way it sounds. You tell progressive how much you want to pay for car insurance and they'll show you coverage option.

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Though they may want to in only to see if they has. my name is Laura Marling. This is the longest I've ever taken to write a records you know, I started very young. I put out my first album when I was seventeen and I'm now thirty, when I was in a really wonderful way, and I think everybody experiences when they young your kind of a functioning narcissist in that's you- I have this experience of the world in which you are the central character, and I think that's wonderful, because I think that is full of color and vibrancy and it's very necessary experience when you're young, but

There was maybe an accumulation of events that led to this sort of next rite of passage as a person, I metabolize a few experiences that I'd. How does a younger women there were very common? eggs and in some ways them on digestible. The experience of somebody, dumpling a boundary that you but even aware needed to be policed and that sort of term attic effect of that experience can have the effect of taking you out of the naive space. It really pushes you out of that time where you ve felt at the centre of your own movie, and it makes you this

kind of vulnerable, you feel like there are no boundaries. There is nothing protecting you. You know it's all in your minds, any sense of safety, and I think I felt a tremendous sense of unity in those experiences because I think a lot of young women go through them, but I came to a point in my life, where the experiences had led up to me being able to cope with what they were. and move through them in a satisfying way about a year. So I made my last album. I was in France with my partner, and we were staying in a sort of cabin outside to lose he's, also musician, and he has this very strange habit of playing the same court sequence over and over

over and over again until he's kind of perfected. The playing of it and not chord sequence ended up seeping into my unconscious, and I ended up writing some with it without ever having asked him what the chord sequence is hm. So he's got a co writing credit on this track, which is nice. I couldn't Martin M thirty two and it said nineteen, eighty, six, brazilian rosewood guitar and it's my sort of pride and joy. I always take that with me. Wherever I go when a song comes easy. I feel like I'm surgically attached to the guitar until it's done. So I will go over and over and over I'll start singing nonsense over the top of it and

it will mutate into what will end up being the song. So it's it's not like. It comes out perfect, but it comes out in the course of twenty four. I'd, say: I've lately get in my group in honor of the Dawson she on the two. I do not have a dosa. I have no children like all people. I felt the kind of biological chemical urge to have children. I have got daughters and I have nephews and me no, this still every possibility that I might have chosen at some point, but my rational brain is very ambivalent about it. I think the inspiration for some fraud daughter, you know somewhere at the back of my mind

existed in my experience of having read by Maya, Angelou cooled letters to my daughter. It's a series of kind of essays written to a non existent daughter. that are an accumulation of her experiences in life and how they've contributed to how she conducts herself and the implied openness of I actually back that it could be read by me and the lessons could be for me and I can interpret them in any way. I can I find that, incredibly, I have been fortunate enough in the last couple of years to have a studio in my basement. So I spent a long time in my studio, experimenting with sounds trying to find things that she the emotional moments and indulging in Lushness Tibet.

said the demos all me playing everything He can remember what I say. The another kind of influence on the song is a very tragic story from sort of roman antiquity. It's called the rape of Lucretia, and it's about this young noble women who, the evening before her wedding is, is raped. And no one heaved her, and in that time they believed, if you'd been anyway kind of sullied your blood to turn black and so

he rode into court one morning and she stopped herself in the chest and of course her blood was black and she died. I came across our story and was kind of struck by its contemporary relevance all over contemporary culture. Is this very contentious meeting between experience and law and how difficult it is for traumatize women to correctly by in terms of the language of law, express their experience. It's just it's just not very well understood and that frustration is sound. The EU

You believe, with a damn. I like that, I kind of highly fleshed out demo. It's like painting, You know impostor whatever they say you no kind of very thick brush strokes and then you take it to a sort of man the Costco painter, and they do it in far more detail. So I sort of have a core musical team that I went with a lot the longest serving member physical team is, if I could Nick Pini he's an amazing jazz, bassist, Then we had this penis called Anna Cochrane, who had this beautiful taste. Taste is pretty unusual in what she chooses to play.

I I co produced the struggled with Ethan, and he played drums on this track. One of my favorite dramas. I The last verse the very unexpected entrance of some very straightforward, drumming well then, to me it feels like it could live out. Entire course being a kind of validating song and then Suddenly, there's this drive added at the last moment and it's unexpected It's kind of just what you need to keep you interested in their instruments when there.

A place feel like that holding me up and I feel like the drums are doing that in this, in this circumstance, that kind of offering, at a tactile suppose you remember what I said. you left, since the very first recording I have it is. I ve never accorded vocals in Qatar separately, so I always play my keys to Qatar and sing same time, because to me the important relationship is happening. There is my bodily relationship to the Qatar, because the resident part of my chest is touching the qatar- and I sort of seems in saying to me

that you would have to take those two things apart, that one thing so much to the annoyance of every engineer, I've ever wet with that's how I record though they may want only to see if this, as I get older, the kind of increasing responsibility to a younger generation to protect their innocence and their freedom in the most vibrant time of their lives, where they will be the mode creative and the most interested in the world and have the most interesting ideas, the idea that that can be cut short by a sort of cultural injustice.

I find that a very sad thing. It's all something that children and young people deserve to be protected from and if we could change the culture from our perspective of our time in life, what would we change? That was diesel of overriding feeling, that I felt dirty and may want to take your clothes. Whatever said action Expo EU with your clothes on the flow. There again advise for some all he'll ask yourself I said we were recording your Wales about five hours away from where I live.

I come home at the weekends and put backing vocals and everything that we did during the week we'll see there and then bring them back. On my laptop, I find that backing vocals the most embarrassing thing to do in front of other people. So I I really don't like to teach him and in proper studios. And oh, I think it's a huge waste of time or money to do them. Procedures because they're so easily done at home, so part of the joy of having a room of my own, as I have got now for the first time in my life, is that I can do all that kind of embarrassing stuff without fear of humiliation. The book that and I like close weird harmonies,

the harmonies sound like they're, possibly going to be out of tune, and then they sort of resolve in a nice way. The I know so there's a line that I took from a rubbish. Sam Davis book he's canadian writer He had a lineup about one of his character is dying from a kiss from God and what he meant by that was flight, beautiful, excessive curiosity, it killed her, Yes, it is your excessive curiosity. Is this beautiful, passive, being useful and no matter how much one might want,

tat the youth from letting that curacy put them in the path of danger. There is no way you can protect them from that do you put kids. The if you're looking to flesh out said of emotional points of a song, a fury in my genre of music. You either do that with backing vocals or with strings. So there's a lot of choral backing vocals and beautiful strings by Rob Moose, and he is a very familiar sound to lots of

people now, because he's done bon Iver a none Paul Simon. So I had put these kind of re elementary string pads on the demo as the kind of point of reference of where I might imagine strings coming in and then sort of where they might be useful. And then I sent it to robe and I said oh we're on a bit of a tight deadline, as we always are on a tight budget as we always are, and what you do this in the cheapest quickest way possibly can, and he sent back to us a message saying I hope you don't mind, but but the Who that I took was embodying the daughter, the character of the daughter I sort of ambition to rising up. Above even being this effective presence in the song

the done Ethan. incredibly empathetic job. Just I listen to it. You know when those huge speakers at the desk and studio and I burst into floods and lots of tears, I couldn't believe it. I've always been interested in the feminine relationship to creativity and why, in no kind of societal sense it might have been inhibited over time and I think to matic experience answers.

but of those questions, because I think it takes a long time to get back to a space. That's very good for writing locomotives in any kind way. You feel safe enough to be vulnerable. For me, I wanted to end the song with a kind of triumphant and hopeful idea that you will cut that down whatever those seeds bare can be cut down and started and I said you know this is all staff that I wish I had known.

and I I don't feel like, I learnt it the hard way I feel like I learnt it the way the people let me pass, but I certainly wish I had had more of a sense of only

They prefer my bound. She said I wish I'd, stood off myself in certain situations or confronted certain situations in a different way, and I wish that the culture had been there to on a foundational level prepare me for that. I just things in the song as if they were things to be prepared, for, I guess, but the sentiment really is that the experiences are inevitable, but how you handle them is up to you and now here song, for our daughter by Laura modeling in its entirety.

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