Thao and the Get Down Stay Down released the album A Man Alive in March 2016. In this episode, Thao Nguyen breaks down the song "Astonished Man." Thao talks about working with Merrill Garbus of Tune-Yards, who produced the album, and she speaks candidly about her relationship with her estranged father, the subject of the song.
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is tat when the ban town they get down stay down. I was
reading Marilyn Robinson's novel?
Juliet, and there is this
character, who is
black sheep or an outcast of his family and his returned after several years of being completely,
out of touch in his
out to leave again and basically break his father's heart and
there's. This passage. Where he's asking forgiveness from a family friend, then he stopped
and looked at me and said you know:
I'm doing the worst possible thing again. Leaving now glory will never forgive me. This care
and the way that he's developed
and rendered
me so deeply in iran
I need me so much of my dad in this one
passage in particular, sort of bombing closer to understanding
my dad and gave me a kind of compassion and a curiosity about him that I hadn't entertained before wondering
what kind of person he had been all these years than I did it,
know him and
I just started weeping
yeah. I immediately started reading astonished man down the get down stay down, released the album a man alive in march, two thousand and sixteen coming up in this episode. Tao talks about working with merrill garbus of tune yards and why their friendship was so important to the production of the song, but first here's how talking a little bit more about the subject of the song astonishment, her father
He was very charismatic and he was around when I was a kid, but not necessarily a response
simple tenure
he actually was very reckless
a source of great
turmoil and turbulence for us, but I adore him and men.
Then he left. When I was a kid eleven,
over something and then he just kind of just kind of phased out
I named the record a man alive because he is alive and well and well,
tim and that I am and that worse you know that we could both physically be capable of being in touch boat, but we don't and is very, very
peculiar to me. I went up north. I live in san francisco and I I went up north outside of the city and I a friend of mine. Let me borrow his cabin that just trapped myself with a couple instruments and a notebook and
I demo as soon as I'm done with the lyrics
then used gazed, satisfied and then start to see, forgive
I sent it to Adam, are basest and merrill merrill airbus pretty
this record and she is tune yards.
and is a really great friend of mine.
I had an idea that this record would be very personal and a couldn't have done it without a very good friend at the helm, and she knows you know she knows me very well and knows my history of my dad and, and so that part was imperative and sonically
maryland bodies, this kind of fearlessness in this raw energy and that kind of fearlessness I wanted to tap into
in production meanings, I would say a mirror. The drum sounds that she had on her records. I loved, and I want to sound fucked up. I over
employed the term fucked up,
because there are very in a way it felt like it was. The most accurate thing to say is the that communicated at the most effectively
super blown out. I want it to you. Can you eat you up? I wanted the drums to be the first thing that was felt and the
the wind hook. You in
Jesus quotas are grammar,
one dimension that it acquired that I wasn't envisioning was a very simple
actual sent base part. You know it's like a pig
aware of the song and its also high in the mix, and it's one of the hooks of the song
uh, huh
yeah,
The hm hm
I remember just loving all the german bay sounds that those guys we're wrangling
I remember, sort of like doing that kind of weird dancing thing we're
just grouping with their, but you can adjust sync your body so low, because, like that kind of this,
all guttural provocation,
Thanks to this sad will both be satisfied with our had been living thing, how the
gates to decide. You know that's how that's jumped up. That was merrill's idea. She after we recorded it. She said just
to indulge me for a second them and I loved it and it felt exciting, but it didn't feel dishonest. The way that's chopped up, I think, is really
appreciate because it's you know what I'm lamenting as these decades of behaviour, this very cyclical circular behaviour that I'm disgusted with. I have disdain for theirs sadness in those lyrics that are in the first.
As you know there, you don't look for me, but I will look for you. You know.
for me, but I will look for you without a wish to see
but knew you don't look
Me how I looked for you with that. I wish to see nobody knew where
the sun. The first list,
I wrote it said the beginning and end of the song is. I must find and capture
in astonishment
capture and astonished man hold him till. He knows he is forgive him.
Which is in part inspired by Marilyn. Robertson's. Writing is one who
we'd, be astonished with the amount of forgiveness
that could be afforded him
a kind of astonishment that that an end people would so common.
King for him in and one you know-
and you know and he's convince settings undeserving of such I said we all love you, you know, and he laughed and said, you're all saints. He stopped in the door and lifted his hat and then he was gone. God bless him
No matter how
his family, loves him or tries to then can never keep him
for whatever his eye.
is about himself sapphire his ideas of what he deserves our when he's worth
I don't know if that's my dad's deal, but.
It certainly offered this different perspective in this
humanity that am, I guess I had denied
him, there's melt
colleagues, this song and there's some sadness and grief, but there's an optimism in
this kind of new found forgiveness or- and this idea at least in the song, but I I wanted to exist differently and I wanted to be better and I wanted to be embodied in the course
to have them be rousing
I still see.
The greatest service of this record was too,
grieve to
acknowledge the kind of pain I've felt
I guess I guess my whole life and to just admitted into play
to go in there and talk about it and write about it and sing about it and have it on record making this record
worst me to do that and am so grateful to it.
The.
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