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I heard radioactive apple pie cash or wherever you get your bud guests from your first ghosts and government cover. Ups histories, riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now learned stuff. They don't want you to know. I would welcome back. This is the show about the stuff they don't want you to know. My name is met I am then I know why I did that way. I those data before no no flows greet the eyes. Are you kill it I was telling you this earlier than have been listening three way too much. Yes, he may get it out. Listen just do it man I'm not going to do it as I would butcher anything no just the one part, no,

because a lot- and I quote a lot of the music in the rapid I've been listening to you lately. Thanks to you, sir, I can quote anything in listen to it loud the way I want to you in my car peace, peaceful, that's the best one that I can say that I saw your thunder authorities was so anyway. Today we are told About Ngos, yes, no, governmental organizations and front companies now front companies. This is a subject that we tackle before the video and it's something that happens all the time. Companies happen all the time and their designed, so that you would never know, that's the whole point of them and really, if you look around yeah, you're, probably looking at one right now somewhere.

One, there's a sign somewhere in your vision that maybe a front company for something right end its important for us to point out, of course, that not all front companies are elite. This is a time honoured business practice. You know I quite a few corporations own multiple a finger quote: competing brands from your local grocery. George, your local car dealers, shit and the a deal of this is that they can make money off either end of your decision Yan and give they can also make money at various points in the process of savings, factoring a product or and then selling a product or just if you think about the life cycle of something like a computer right massive corporation, could own parts of the software could own?

so the hardware could own even parts of the users experience that happens outside of either those, and that's that's really a point that is often called the more time Horizontal vertical integration right sure and offers the the trees I know that three yet I also remember that foreign companies come in all different sizes, the accurate, Have you no little bodega that lets say is a front company, for I don't know, selling drugs They could have thank for teaching me about that and then you know, you could have something like a non governmental organisation that functions. All over the world. That might be a front for an intelligence agency rights in that's where we get to the heart of it. That's where we get to the stuff. They don't want you to know about Ngos so by our definition, front companies, a subsidiary, Rochelle company that shields another company

did he from liability or scrutiny? One example I was thinking about this in the United States, would be a lot of people have a problem with the Coke Brothers right, but the COPE brothers own, a boat of companies, because we're a family show I'm seeing boat load of companies. I saw you in your head turned its outward. I got closer blight this, I'm not saying one thing, one where the other about their outfit, physically or morally, but I am saying that when you are a business of that level, There are also a lot of clever accountability and responsibility things you can get within their case a lot of it, probably taxation. What in the case of something like an intelligence agency, we're talking more about being able to have plausible deniability, and this takes us- do something that we

very interested in earlier when we did a video on Russia and Ngos, because the nuts one man in Russia and that their polls that prove that recently ruffle some international feathers right. That's right, he passed some laws requiring that foreign based Ngos and foreign sponsored Ngos register and submit themselves to it. Higher level of scrutiny that they weren't subject to before, because he suspects that their intelligence agencies working inside of them, maybe just small little bits, Megan Asian here and aided there sure. But, ah you know he seems to think that he's got some pretty good evidence, or at least you truly believes it. Now we had some comments on our video they came out of it.

Suzie, where one person in particular. I can't remember your name right now, but you said why are you calling these pro democracy? That's not cool. What I should have taken pains to do is say that that's how the West presents them. This is not an attempt by us to manipulate people, but that is that is held. The west presents these groups. Oh there. Just idealistic students banding together for vague words in the? U S, if you use that word democracy, it's one of those words that we ve talked about in the previous episode about. Perhaps thought was what is a thought terminating cliche, yet I mean you just use that word democracy here in the west and special in: U s it, Sir Edward

else around. That word seems: oh, it's totally. Fine, that's yeah! It's like hitting base in the great tat game of redder aching freedom, liberty, dignity, honour, I would say, with the exception of dignity. All three of those words are incredibly malleable and they ve been used to make a lot of strange things. I mean, let's forget that the official name of North Korea is the democratic People's Republic of Korea to deepen our k right yes, and before I get too far off topic, you thank you for writing in and telling us extra do want to clarify that also One of the big questions is- is lad, mere Putin crazy, I mean we're, not gonna, say it is an annual, but we do know that this question this concern of his eye. He's not the

to have it, and maybe it sounds crazy. Is it sounds? So that's the question view? Have Ngos been used this way before as covered? Yes? Yes, absolutely we have ok you're back in the day the CIA would secretly fund Sometimes they create often they would even run supposedly. Private Ngos and they make agenda. With these things they would provide cover cover for It's in operations all over the place at once people would the National endowment for democracy or ned. Ah, yes, the website describes them as a private non profit. Foundation dedicated to the growth and strengthening of democratic institutions around the world. That sounds great items beautiful yeah, but it turns out that this group came about in the way

of some dirty revelations about the CIA. Someone finally got into that dusty closet survived to tell the tale We learned about attempted assassination on heads of state actions. Thus land unsuccessful at destabilizing foreign governments illegal spying way, before Anybody know about the level of spying that we would have today. Yelled way before there were concerns about any of that stuff in ITALY. The formation of the select committee to supervise the agency, the CIA and the Rex Committee on intelligence is purpose, was to oversee the federal, diligence stuff like that, all of their activities sure and while oversight instability came in, it seemed to signal that the CIA, at least there are there either there having over their assassinating people and all kinds of tools and lots that they were forming

like it was over. It seemed that way. Ah, but here's where the problems with this, the the idea of intervening in the affairs of a foreign government outside a deck Missions of war has always been very, very sticky. It's one of those rules that many governments seem to break some more than others, but I you know, there's no secret, that most countries, even allies, have have a couple back up. And in case something goes wrong, and they always want to have more information. Right, we want an asymmetrical information. You mean they want to know more than even their free, No, I am they don't want to tell other people so spying, part of the game, so they did we stopped by now, though they started in G, owes like, as you said, that

sure endowment for democracy was meant to be a party. U S, foreign policy from the jump, the guy who made it was named. Alan wine sting. He worked at Brown in Georgia, beforehand the Washington Post, the Washington quarterly. The George shall centre for certain. Can international studies, and he also had some ties with Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger in nineteen eighty. Ninety one met this guy says a lot of what we do today was done covertly five years ago by the CIA, so he admitted analogies well there you go the guy who ran one of these Ngos talking about it and emitting to today's absurd, is brought to you by IP. For businesses around the world. Today is a restart, it's a rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM retailers are keeping theirs up as millions of orders move on mine

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such a large definition right there, millions of them less in the? U S right so. We're just talking about the ones that you could think of as the squeaky wheels. You could say that we're just talking. The bad ones, or you could say that we're just talking about the ones they got caught yeah both of those would be true. Thank you hecuba caviar when we're safe, so there other places where Ngos were accused of being clandestine, like in Egypt, where these? U S proxies into two thousand twelve were based looked answer. They said, hey some fishing, on here like who specifically Wall Salon as in Luanda COM, specifically list these centre for international private enterprise see IP, the International Republican Institute

and the National Democratic Institute, there's democratic in their again here and also the fell Ceos Free Trade Union Institute, which this one had a long history of working closely with the CIA no. Ladies and gentlemen, listening to the show you'll start to notice a pattern, a water. These names are just vague, kind of dry sounding? How could you argue with them as positive that steer, really vague, yeah It would be like the sound western Association for good things right. But how would you disagree with that? Were the international coalition for fun times? You know. I know I'm being loaded, cynical, but the thing of the past. Is that there are so many institute like the statues, think tanks right? I we know that think tanks play an instrumental role in policy, especially in the west, but the

they're all around us in many ways for the average person, We see the United States. These are unknown factors. Better moving the world and in ways we don't really imagine yeah and you can't see it most of the time No, it's like, oh what I see tee said about muse You remember that allow time and a place is a matter that how does it work for you and your work? yeah right now. I know probably got some listeners, you are saying hey guys. I volunteered and GEO or I have worked with an NGO, I was in the peace corps, for instance, or something like that and we not at all, saying that you were involved in some sort of skull degree. Nor are we saying that many of these Innovations are inherently bad. The peace corps actually because of concerns about this they have a pretty strong

stance on anyone with military experts trying to join the core. They can't let it happen because of it, if in any way there and is seen as a first seen as a threat or a compromise? tool of. U S policy, then a lot of innocent people die. Frankly. We are unaware of their good work that they do wouldn't be able to be dont Gazeta, get kicked out places rapidly. So what do you think they'll this one? They favorite parts of the children? What what do you think about a lot of air pollutants claim? I think I don't think he's very I think he's paying attention. I mean you gotta, remember every country does this not just the? U S, putting people and Ngos and intelligence companies who sure he is done in a during his decades with the KGB? Oh yeah? Well, I'm sure he knows things, I'm sure there, tell it is that he has.

You and I don't have it. Oh and it's it's also this weird thing, because it just the facts: and intelligence agency works with energy, or does it mean if bad, because they get tell just needs to be gathered by no the good guys. Whatever. That means, right by the side that you know that is represented by you. It's a great thing. If you're country or your whatever it is that you live under is gathering intelligence. Can keep you safer theoretically, theoretically the bad thing is when its abused- and you know that's that's a tough subject- is war tough thing to really about how do you abuse and intelligence agency? Well, assassinations seems to be an abuse right. Yes, that's I think. That's well said in their defence. Could we do want to show both sides of the argument? The CIA? We found some quotations from their website regarding

Ngos, they have a fairly extensive, thorough exe, nation. Their stance and one of their big concern seems to be how share information with Ngos. What sort of information they share a right in here is that quote information sharing is part of a larger story of the rise of Ngos in their growing competence of the need for form of intelligence culture. Government analyser rewarded for integrating all available source material into their work and engaging with non governmental experts. Of globalization we're out Partnerships between formal state structures and civil society are constantly emerging there. Need to share is recognised by governments and Ngos in already curs in many places between professionals, who have learned to cross this cultural divide working from home conference calls.

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Hayley around here from the goal of birds confess about being on bumble close? Did you know that Kane Brown has built a painful calls in haste? yeah. Well, you see and hear all of the stories on stray at a national make. She listen, I'm I heart radio app on apple pot, cats or wherever he listened to your favorite podcast Ah, there we go that last sentence may be the most important. They are met. The cultural divide, right it already occurs. I think, to an already occurs between professionals who have learned to cross the cultural divide. So what their implying here, of course, is that the CIA and various Ngos have already worked together extensively and that's that's understood. So no that other intelligence these and other countries, are doing this as well. But what it really says to me is there

CIA isn't necessarily inside lot of these Ngos, or at least the little tendrils of these Ngos, there just gather the information from the people who not maybe not officially, CIA operatives or on the payroll, maybe just assets yeah they're just They are Their sharing this information between cultural divides. Will it seems they could also be moonlighting once remembered, perhaps because the best sort of covert intelligence operative one that nobody knows about right. I know this, I know this sounds so paranoid and end so much like a cold war mentality. But it is true that this stuff came from the cold war and its also true that it still happens so one of my

concerns or something I'd like people to think about after you listened to the show. Is that when you hear about protest rise in countries know the so called arab Spring friends, and when you hear about protest in Eastern Europe, their hot spots around the world. It's important! Ask yourself: why? How did these come Where did these groups come from? Where today, I derive their income in you, even in the case of terrorist groups. The fourth Laker one thing was really interesting about their eyes. This video we did what we found out that people claim there. Their funding from robbing a central bank year. Then we are destroying said really sure that happened right yeah, so we have access

so much information now that it's very easy to get us of over wound, but ask yourself the next time that you here The students union for a better republic of Democratic Freedom has started proto then, and the government is reacting violently. You know and insert country here, maybe one up and see, see where they come from and who finds them and they ve been around and what they want. You know you look at leaflets. It's so interesting to look at small groups, organizing in say they were, mention the arab spring Boom in Egypt in thing. When you look at the materials that are handed out and then also

Remember when the occupy protests were going on here. In the United States- and you would have to meet two reports that there were people planted in the crowd who were trying to incite violence, was there ever proven agent for market, worse, yeah, so difficult to prove an asian provocateur. One thing that I have found through various says studying a video eyes. Look at the boots. Look at the shoes, yeah yeah because they're specifically issued shoes for police officers and if you, if you suspect and major provocateur, look at issues that so that so strange though, because you think there is some overdue.

Something like that. They would have also raise it or their outfit. You would think that the best evidence that I've seen that you that's how you prove it, but not in a court of law. Just too, you know the hearts and minds of people that want to believe that that was an agent provocateur, so now it's time for us to hear what you guys think we're really fascinated by this, this concept of these protests. Maybe not being quite what they seem because did something that I don't know about you, but reminds me that propaganda book you know- oh yeah, fermenting descent, yes against us, thing. But then you can manipulate that descent. If you, if you can steer the group Raw yeah, by written by the Father of public relations, we received it continually returned to on the show button, about us. Let us know what you think about the idea of

he's, a foreign Ngos, Raven protests groups being something more than they appear to be. Have you ever worked at an NGO? Tell us about it. I d ever seen. Weird or maybe can't tell us about it, we'd love to hear either way. Yeah. That's really good point. We'd all love to hear any ideas you have. Four upcoming topics were episodes that we should cover and, oh, I wish Take a moment to say thank you so much for writing to us about the ghost story. We owe you appreciate that we will have doing that more right, super producer and not to give it our super producer? No, he just raised raised a hand solid They're, ok also sees any species.

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