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he's a man of many times less. Do shop, Do sharp this is difficult he's the philosopher, he's a philosopher and filmmaker he's been around just forever and worked closely with me on some other issues. We do without stuff, where an unending source of pre show banter care and yet so its Paul Paul, is Paul. You are you in that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know buddy right in and I wish Paul like having to deal with us. Yes, Sandy's do that, so we, in the past about the world's extensive network of military bases. These could be publicly acknowledged. These could be speculated speculative or they could be. Rumours on the dark were bright, exactly the empty, deep underground military bases. Episode still holds a special place in my heart, and

and we had an ice ice base episode. Yeah we, yes, this is sort of like this is like a trilogy. Can we call this the third part of a trilogy think there might even be more? Can we call the base God trilogy? Yes, ok us We don't get sued. So just a personal thing. I will take my personal stuff too much on the show, but I grew up on a series of military installations or any of them underwater, To my knowledge. You know they did have pools, probably got memory wiped near me. I did I I I was on a number of: U S military bases. Proven ones, public ones. Today, the? U S operates around eight hundred military bases, we know about and they're not not all the super nice bases like you- would see in South Korea or in Germany Brain on a lot of

are in places that are in the groups of tyrannical government right yeah, that's one thing to note here: many of the United States military bases earlier ones that they control are not inside the United States. Therein, countries with their operating in cooperation with another country and if you to see a very. Sobering map I would highly recommend you check out the matter. Any variety of man which will show you the number of? U S, military bases on foreign soil directly. Sir finding a rod, and how many people would you say typically, does a military base make a range as well last year ranges it could be agreed very small. That's an excellent question could be very, very small, and it could also the size of a city. You know and in many ways Some of the larger bases are built so that people who

live there either as support staff of military officers? Were family members never have to leave the base their multiple schools, multiple shops? There are different restaurants, Mars, bowling alleys, religious, buildings. I about an aircraft carrier essentially the size of a city with the number people in a small city roaming around in international waters, and it's a base. Do, I've only been the one accident such I was born on a military base, but I don't remember very well, but in my hometown thus to Georgia. There's a big one called Ford, Gordon and secondly, member about it is that it has a really big burger king nice, like a flash uranium burger King Sweet, the the largest who depends on how you measure, but as were according this, the largest military,

based on EU soil, is Fort Bragg it as a population just under two hundred and forty thousand people while and that's the lake active living their population. His huge. This number that we're we're around round eight hundred scattered across the globe doesn't ring We encapsulate everything because it count the number of honour. In training or non permanent exercises, some of which can last indefinitely the way, a lot of these things were work would be a situation where the? U S, Terry Partners with the military of aid, another nation with Afghanistan like there currently doing right and the train the country, military members too,

to learn how to use? U S military attack to learn how to use strategies and techniques and, despite being hauled non permanent. We ve seen that stuff can become a quagmire and we can have a de facto functioning military base. These are, without a doubt, They think you'll hear you see this on. Our own are earlier segments of our base, God trilogy these are, without a doubt, controversial organizations. U S. Leadership will claim that he's had numerous benefits. They'll say we have to have bases in Europe to protect our european allies, primarily from Russia night. The prize there will be is in the Middle EAST are often in town as containing iranian influence, which scurvy tricky term

ensuring the free flow of oil. So there's a pretty public acknowledgement that that is about ensuring access to resources. Then, of course you got bases, throughout Asia that a lot of times would be said as defending you, US allies from this rising et or perceived threat from a milk. We standpoint of China and possibly in unstable North Korea, which seems to be again every time we make one of these paragraphs, which need to be more news coming out once again, North Korea is a that is really on the radar of at least the press and the military here in the United States. Then it's on the it's on the reader of the western world. Evidently, on the radar of its patron state, China, a guy, I think I think, geopolitically it is very much becoming an unsustainable situation. Flashpoint

these military bases, regardless of which country owns or runs them, are multi functional their surveillance Hobbs, they gather all the intelligence raven. She knows people go back and forth with you about what counts the base like or the listening centres in? five eyes or the military installations, or are they just different branch of a base regardless of how they are categorized, often military bases, are home to surveillance Hobbs. They may be home to detain centres where in U S, law does not apply as much as it would to citizens like the ones where they strap you down to a chair and make you listen to Jefferson Starship at me. Now hundred fifty decibels, fur data time. He had a good all black site. That happened to me. What yeah? What's why, the way I am. Oh,

makes a sum that the the blacks, maybe a little bit different because they were hands off the exactly Hagnonic Li Mu, Bai, other kinds of black site that exists in cyber early. It's more of a grace integrated Europe. It never happened, It can also be really important, refueling or re equipping laws. They can be links or vertebrae in the supply chain of an operation and, of course, much more it is, as we said, enormously controversial, because, U S military bases count as you are soil, regardless a country in which their situated the birth certificate. It says name citizen born abroad. Yes born aim american model, we base in Germany while you could you not ever

your present like no recently, but I think I was accounts because of the resolution, because I just because we would then decided by an old man. Go soil. These are also, of course, a huge troop in action rain, and whenever we see than fiction there there Quite nor, boring bases supersecret, they don't have Burger King Saito. They don't have burger case any there, often where they might have as a product tyrant No, they might, but if they do have a product tyrant and it's gonna be better than the average burger king live like a super whopper, they may have awesome theme song like see about underneath low her spoilers man does report What's a great is censuses naughty issue were I wish we could tell you friends, neighbours that not

did the most endearing look around after you did the right of a genial, and I now also I saw you know we think of these military bases in fiction they're, all doing amazing stuff there they're pretty much always privy to technology. That's beyond the grasp of the public or opposed apocalyptic scenario where there, the last bastion of humanity, but still somehow terrifically the other as a reason Urien this extreme place inside a base? It's not like you just build that base there, because it was idea? So we would have known what been a safe face, maybe save based face you do! It's like you in the extreme place when you're in this base, our one I feel safe. Now, I'm doing a look around

man I'm in outer space. I think we I we all care about space Space Brown These are the things we are all familiar with right. I've is: is this idea of these ignore sleep advanced and secretive basis, Well, what are some infection that you all remember from? I always think of the floating basis in superhero comic fiction like shield new ventures, the thing is so cool: oh yeah, me it's Austin powers and doktor evil. Here several bases. Some underwater summoned volcanoes in future, we will talk about like the ice bases do not underwater bases in the mountain we think of the moon basins with James Bond is what I think, but actually there isn't exactly an ice. Ace in James Bond movies. I was like. Surely there absolutely is, but

there. There was one kind of from one of the later movies, but it was really like a secret military installations, are, like I don't know yet That alone, that is, changed my movies of the king of weird basis, through her absolute All your base are belong to us yet was at about, though I think, those about poor translation services. Ray. Is that where it goes back to its correct and then there is also a very interesting subject- Sandra rain fiction. Where on your water research facilities. Bessie, I remember, the abbess yeah. There is also Sawyer. Their sphere of these particular deep blue sea together river that yeah evil shark here was that do not boy loses. The listeners of this need to watch that movie. Ok, absolutely

Perhaps a better word is experiencing stay out of my head, like a sharks nobody said those they Ella cool J. That was the deep blue sea theme. The deep blue sea theme, memories saga, sober, here's, the big question: what's up, could any of these things that are represented in Hollywood represented you know and animation? Could any of these be actually real? We anytime, I seek west, we didn't as I see lab, see lab mentioned it right. The call back to your sort of like yeah Julie, Le Sealer. They had all those pods. There were built up down, there's really interesting, but that show was making fun of like a absurdly common trope, whether it's like do not seek West or the James Bond thing or any like the abyss, all that stuff and Nunez. This sense like this is with scientists like: do there

dirty work. Yeah. Did you work on sea lab, hey write to us? Let us know what a just tell us the secrets of the shock as we love it, and I love it. Ok and the most immediate example of a secret base in environment. I feel we have to give it an honourable mention is area fifty one absolutely totally it wasn't, you know, was an official evening knowledge until twenty thirteen four years ago- and that was the add some classified documents from the National Security archive. So fifty one beast officially is was it in a remote part of the divine Desert, where the testing of highly classified aircraft was able take place beyond the prying eyes of the public it relatively relatively short

you why you can see a list of over sixty declassified documents on the site if you to search for every area, fifty one file- an essay archive so that some some reading material, its rate, it goes in all different kinds of aspects going into this biplanes, some of the stealth aircraft, the high velocity aircraft. We were able to digest the testing of over the years in what works. What didn't somebody here? So many the problems that they ran into with being discovered, essentially a reported as ufos, yeah right, really interesting, yea, and I think you had no nudes method. The single that single instance true, docks could make for its own episode, absolutely and so again. Honourable mention four area. Fifty one aside cleaning of this strange stuff out of fiction, be you no real? Yet? Where does it get crazy? Is it it soon right,

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may I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your broadcasts, here's where it gets crazy. I know every time the. U S really may have some bases and strange environments. We cannot see whether there is anything permanent on the moon, no effort. We just can't say wish for nothing. No there's nothing on the moon. We just can't. We don't know who you are very careful that we and the international space station- or I access- is more like a jointly rang laboratory, We know the: U S and other countries, I'm so Khartoum, usually proud of this, have flowed. Oh boy get it it's written downright your folks idea of building bases underwater. I was up too late.

No, that the? U S has been experimenting with concept of undersea habitats, since at least the nineteen sixty say. Remember that show see lab. It was an actual thing. You might not remember this it. Call the sea lab in any jump the sea shark Talkin about downloads, early that I'll take the Baltic the fall for that one guys! No, but there was see lab one Irish just see lab the original than there was too and see lab three. The sea leavening. Yet We go. I like that. Yet was this a series of experiments meant to prove the viability of. Adoration, diving and having humans living isolation in small groups for an extended period of I'm, which reminds me won't talk about people stuck in research centres in Antarctica. Do you think they had any frogmen on staff I would, I would hope so these would have to be very.

Sperience divers, so I will not be surprised. I there was in this political environment in the sixties, Othello named See F Austin. China Lake Naval Ordnance tests station propose something he called the rock site concepts? Ok, I'm ready these would be manned undersea installations that were built into the rock of see which sounds kind of crazy, but there were already well understood principles. You, by the mining industry for decades and decades. So often essentially said: why don't we use this mining technology, these mining techniques and make large basis anywhere. There suitable bedrock in The ocean at any depth that ok, I got some I get some issues in some stuff to go in here. So first time mining operations where their building those are they're sending drills deep down.

Into the ocean is having to build infrastructure to maintain those large pipes and everything that are going down there in the pumps and all that so that makes sense understand that, as in the sixties,. I'm just turn around my head around any depth Is there such issues with creating an environment with prattle sure the I mean just sending people down there? Man? I don't know I love it in the sixties. This gentleman sea of arson- and you know a whole host of other people- thought that this was a viable idea and it makes me think where are we now? If in the sixties site, we could have done that yeah, You could lower a tunnel boring machine into mine, shaft shaft in the ocean floor into

is, and then you assemble it inside the tunnel to make more tunnels. I you know we talk before about camps Century in Antarctica, where, they built a tunnel for small nuclear reactor which already Few are uncomfortable with the ocean. You have a few, drowning, I think, being next door to the nuclear reactor tunnel is case. An ice. No us is extra bit of icing on the crippling phobia cake. You ever tried to think about whether we feel like to drown yeah sucks here. I am Having met this just occurred to you do not know, just thought about it for the first time- and I did not like worth listening to realise what would it feel like do not exist in future, a camera head around like that yeah would lose your regular around in a tariff.

It feels like it would be an easier way to go. Then say that the I guess the opposite will be burning alive. If a choice to choose one yeah drown me all day. How asked the girl Salem which test you guys for it, I'm gonna stay over here on land and breathing air within two morbid met. No it's great. A worker, Holly fry who we talk about. Sometimes she, will not buy a car that doesn't have manual windows in case, however, we know, goes off a bridge in her car. Then the other windows don't work, and then you can escape yeah about a specific tool that I keep next to me at all, tat smasher near its civics, with a little blade to cut the smaller elsewhere. Anything you need time. They want to hang out with you in there. No, you don't. I've got a tiny little container of seeds and nothing and that's it in a machete

a much better yeah. That's that tool is it's all there. I strongly recommend everybody keeping their car along with a duffel bag. That can sustain you close your view for twenty four hours ago, bag. If you are losing the show. You probably already know about these. One. So we took a turn for the morbid Matt, especially because I'm gonna squeeze on one side fact those even more morbid here in the? U S, we! I have no idea how many cars to Holly Fries Point have fallen into lakes only too discovered years later, when weather patterns change or win, though dry up and there are hundreds and they have corpses in them. I just want you to think about that. That's I'm DR violate DR very carefully. Don't be a statistic great or if you

Be a statistic be like a cool statistic? I escaped yeah. Yeah, it's a good without a great one ice and saved some people yeah. We have really great hair and electoral see, and I can lower my body temperature. Whenever I want, with your mind with my mind, you want to know as I have a since, I feel like. If somebody didn't know, matinee just saw him on the street. They would think he was the type to do that in a guy controls, his body absolutely, to escape from the morbidity? Let's let slip it Some of us play a thought experiment. If, if we were building a permanent undersea base, we'd have some forty compelling. Advantages. If we could pull it off. We have some very high stakes. Dangerous obstacles. What consequences advantages, seabed or seek you ve got an extra layer of security. It's in excess.

Conventional forces here you can't just had on down there in a boat or a plane. A car or anything like that. You have to have specific gear to get down to that debt yeah. You probably are not able to just jump in and swim, not swim over there, sir. Question. Is there like a limit for how long submarines will staying completely submerged? People will go out on ships for a long time, but if you're on a sub, are you like underwater like all the time There are. There are limits, the very on the class of a brain drain? But there are, there are both Psychological limits, hands high resource lithuanian latest recreate the conditions of like a sub but like in some that somehow anchored to the ocean floor like whether its chained to this floor Orban like you'd like like the? U made through some kind of Rob Brok, outcropping, isn't them yet

That's one of the most compelling arguments, because we know that submarines can already exist at least approximately at these deaths, the big question is whether humans can exist for an indefinite time there without running out of air, were food or, frankly, candy. I noticed disturbing and each other, like John Carbon, your movie diversionary, exactly like, like a bottle a sort of a sitcom gone wrong? You know linear, depending on where this basis can did like events. Deep ground in some kind of calves. Or something you could escape all kinds of natural disasters. All kinds of whether just hundred Ike. There the things you could get away from just because your deep inside the earth inside the water. This idea is really starting to appeal to you, as it really is starting to it.

We are, however, there are some problems, our its enormously expensive, not just to build it yeah, but To keep people alive in it is financially, it is a challenge, costs that I cannot fathom fathom theirs let's we also worst, not true. We have a lot of research on the long term effects of similar permanent life in the debt sore in isolation, but we Don't have a solid enough case to know what would happen if we built a base that was supposed to last for a hundred years ago, really have to be in a league of its own. And you'd probably have to set it up where personnel base are only there in new increments of Sure I got a sobering exactly you have to set it up that way, so

The other question, let's say the worst possible thing, I would say: there's supersecret undersea military base and is somehow doing some sketchy stuff in violation of international law right and everything's, humming along quite nicely until a catastrophe occurs, maybe a cavern lapses. Bringing that is dark in there for some reason explodes there is a fire that damages air recycling stuff, unexpected volcanic activity. Unexpected, that's a great when yeah, unexpected volcanic geothermal activity, could the people base be saved, and how because this would still be sort of an off the books, yeah structure, book structure and trying to get. You know the pale, how many people you have their getting enough of those people safe We too the surface without causing

near the effects that you get from surfacing too quickly. Here you know there are so many problems right hands, even if they're in pressure it. I guess it would be a little easier, but just some crazy things to think about soup. With those things in mind, why? What sort of stuff would people build or what have they built in? perhaps most importantly, why? Why do this? You know. One thing I was thinking just before the Bay of any secret undersea base is Navy. Frogmen, I'm telling you those Navy frogmen hoping holding their yeah right there. Men torpedoes will Do you know that there are of their multiple non military experiments with the viability of life under C and D. U S Navy actually, as a small scale version They underwater military

operation right here in the good old. U s away! It's something! We had never heard about before. It's called the I did states Navy Acoustic research detachment or a r d. Ok, that's that's a long one is located in lake penned, Oreo Oreo in maybe you Idaho, in this Lake is the largest one in Idaho. It's also the deepest in the quietest. Its surface area of a hundred and forty eight square miles and the the highest deaths depths or the lowest depths. I guess are up to eleven hundred feet It has an almost constant surface, temperature of thirty nine point, five degrees, Fahrenheit and, most importantly, for this base most of the shore line on this lake is not populated. It consists of mostly national forests that are owned by the government a couple of little pockets

of humanity and civilization that live there in these little resort areas. Yeah, that's it! So what what are they doing? What kind of stuff or the up to their night? Oh well, there Are they are building and testing unmanned scaled down submarines that sounds cool right, so think about the drone technology that you are aware of, that we ve seen in the news with the the aeroplanes right there do. That, with submarines there about a quarter of the length of a full size sub in their testing. Brand new state of the art, acoustic technology and probably lots of other revolutionary tech that we don't know about? testing when this lake, specifically because it so quiet and because it so calm and Just no other interference? Other tests can come out almost pristine sue, one order, the length of a full size sub would make that up to eighty eight feet feed is kind of an average for what you would see their because you know

The different models of the submarines vary in real. Cool thing about utilizing these models, rather than full size submarines in this lake, is that it saves anybody listening, including the four of us who is a citizen of the United States, a lot of money. I think the time when the article we reading for this was written, which is years and years, ago, the court was save billions of dollars in development costs, so I can only imagine that's exponentially increased in savings over time and first blush there doesn't seem to be anything nefarious about this. This is just a testing centre and their hoping to save money in probably ultimately save lives, and I mean on the surface absolutely true You guys, let's see the year, you know an underwater military scientists. Do you ve been working on yours, in experiments in your secret underwater base lab whatever

wanna take a little break. We what's at once scientists like that to do for a little respite. Well, tell you, you gonna! One of the world's many underwater hotels thirty cause that savagely spend all your time toiling awaken an underwater lab. You wanna go in occasion and in an underwater thing, where you gonna write that same feeling that you ve had you just want to make it more pass exactly nine I'm kidding, but there are others that this is a thing underwater hotels and at first there was the British have been my head was I, didn't even doing these underwater hotels things into buying key west forever, and then I look it up and it's like a being twenty feet below the ocean surface. Not nearly as impressive or talking. I still stale Oh sure, cooler than is one gallon lantern said the palm in Dubai. Very opulent, when in key west, the planet Ocean underwater hotel straight up looks like see, lab wickedness

its heartlessly rightly I guess a series of paths definitely is, but it's pretty cool, so maybe we'll take a group where a group vacation to one of those one. Yes, please we'll have a conspiracy adventure all our own right? Yes, in just two, we quickly jumped back over to tee. Stick the Navy, acoustic research detachment just to give some history. We have a quote from in early times article here, and it says that the Navy's acoustic research detachment, plays a key role in the quest for ever quieter submarines. It's the only of duty remnant of the former Farragut. EVIL training centre, which was there and it was established during world war, two in nineteen forty six most of that centres, four thousand acres became a state park, but they kept along a lot a couple other parts of this basin. They built it out to do this whole drone submarine testing for the acoustics

its relatively small to just like twenty two acres right, yeah, twenty acres along a week, south end and there's a resort community of three hundred people near it. So, like your now, they do not dealing with a ton about a ton of people on the water. You are if you're walking along the shore, maybe on vague Have you you do have hence the sea, remote control model submarines their house. They sheds built over the lake. The models are not arms smiles. We could find there not testing weaponry daily sufficiently or not in one weird thing is that they have their people protesting. Nuclear power there, does any nuclear facilities? Yes, true there. There are a lot of people thinking that there was a nuclear facility that was going to be built there. And we'll get it. There are a lot of rumours and interesting things going on there at this lake, lake penned Oriel were or you

Somebody correct me tell me how to say it correctly. There was another quotation that you found met there I thought was pretty Stealing? It says over the years The bases mission is sport, rumours and dark fantasies, some Luke I believe a secret underwater river provides the gateway for full size. Subs from the Pacific Ocean, about three miles away and for cryptic fans. There's one more fun. Facts limit smile oh yeah. What is it now at another legend links the base, and a mythical underwater beast named party, so yeah, your listing big fans, I mean I had never heard of binding undisturbed fan in theory, I lovely highly so here's the deal. I think party exists this just my takes a locust things been around, there's been there's been seeing here since world war, two right and if you like, its grown up there who go on the lake now most of the testing they say occurs in deepest areas of the lake kind of towards the centre areas, and it now

when the service wins. Bees are at their lowest, so most of acoustic stuff, the pool all that Stuff is wrong in the water at night when you know maybe you're a kid down by the dock? Maybe you jumped in the water. For second, isn't your lamb roiling, yours like white pond, must be positive in that Scamp. I can totally see that he's gotta be like Cecil from the Beanie and Cecil show inelegant friendly, Canna Goofball Sea monster, who has a little buddy women with a beanie hat. Yet it That makes sense to me that checks out. I think I saw the mystery of party right up Here's the thing we're we're doing this, because this is one of the most public acknowledged basis. Type, but we don't know what else is out there and turns out

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or wherever you get your pack so it is not just the United States Guinean on the underwater secret base, or maybe not so, secret base, just cool underwater this game. We ve also got China, China, China, yes, the country of China, China, China, China, We agree, I you wanna www issues, one of those words that when you say enough times, to lose all meaning Emily we're making fun of someone a little bit. That's There is a real term for that's called semantic situation the joy out of how does that I wanted to be mystical. You named the unbelievable were exactly I kid real, there's a base that China plans to build and its real. This is made up. This is

actual thing with a budget with people with of with is there at there are people working on this right now it would be located ten thousand feet below the ocean surface and it's going to say: for valuable mineral deposits and I'm sure that's all it's going to do yet, even though it is on coast of South China Sea, one of the most heavily disputed areas in the world, maritime speaking. What are you implying then, that there are some terrier motive for this underwater clan, Stein facility. Dare I dare I imply such I think, he's in playing multi faceted chain claims is fluid its China glimpse of over this huge swathes of ocean in the area and disk

as multiple other countries in the region. New small amount of distress, because they want to be regional. Hedge, a mine in Vietnam, is say: well, hey we own part of this, and then the Philippines are saying: hey well, we'll part of that pretty much every other country in the area is saying calm down you? Don't own entire c and they're saying I wanna get to off topic here. But their argument is that it is historically chinese territory based. To some degree on this document, written by a fisherman a long time ago, in one too, none of those other countries by the way agreed you know that ok, just like our fishermen. Yet now the head. Fishermen learn where one signal. Now. I can dig up tat. I can do up some more on that. If we want to explore it but the

the problem here is, as as we saw. He could say it's. A mineral scouting lace. All the live long day and people are still going to treat it with the same scepticism that you are treated country, saying we're refining nuclear material. Just just for a power purposes. We're not do anything else where we promise either though these steps to refine nuclear material for a power plant are indistinguishable for a lie, blisters, eventually indistinguishable from the refinement needed to make a weapon, and we have a quote here from the president of the People's Republic of China, she jinping the deed. It contains treasures that remain undiscovered and undeveloped in order to obtain these treasures We have to control key technologies in getting

the deep sea discover deep sea and developing the deep sea gonna get that deep sea. The man was. The air was speechwriter paid by how many times they used the phrase deep sea they humming. Perhaps we we also have a quote here when we look at it from the: U S in, like our house, you know states viewing this from a strategic standpoint. When you know we talk women's mentioning all these different, used therein. I come up, we know in international politics Sue of German in brain clerk of the Washington strategic in budgetary assessments, says having this kind of long term inhabited station has not been attempted this deep, but it certainly is possible. Man submersibles have gone to these steps for almost fifty years. The challenge is operating it forum for months. The time which is the same thing, we ve been talking about this whole time and time again, an undersea time again, oats guinea, deep sea time again,

how does lower they want to control it, they want to into it. They want to discover it they want to develop it. That's that's true So how serious is this because we know that over the decades, numerous military, so proposed some pretty cockamamie stuff and with varying degrees of seriousness or intention. Will we know that, at least from the perspective of the our sea from China is perspective. This is A real thing is happening in spite of the five year economic plan. They release the march of twenty sixteen and its ranked number two on a list of the government's top hundred science and technology priority You can imagine if you could gain access to anyone end of mineral deposits that were before this point inaccessible. Especially in large quantities or if you can get there may be some rare.

Earth minerals down there may be some stuff that has been dormant for years and years and years centuries millennia. That could be huge economically fortune and let's go ahead and up the stakes further, because it turns out that the tray government is already operating and and ground military base for naval force. It's called a European naval base, its bills. Nuclear submarines, it's on the southern coast of high on the islands and it's been room. Spooky thing is yeah people outside of the chinese government learned about this because other governments, intelligence agencies were reporting it and it was just gonna, probably let this one slight yeah dude According to the EU cognizance this point. It's like it is right that the idea of its YAP Caverns you can store up to twenty nuclear subs

Large enough to accommodate there's a harbour and the surface is large enough to accommodate aircraft carriers to the government is actively building and I don't I don't particularly care. When we hear alarm- is about another country, doing things that other countries have been doing for a while and I think a lot of people a lot of full, can agree when I say that often times at least in the U S, son, things like this come about jobs. Right moment to distract people from a different issue. China, perfect. I wish you guys can signals face right, how he does it just like. Look around he trotted enacted in at least that is how I was the question you face emerging. I saw it as super producer. Tristan

We indicate exclusively with that emerging do we have we mention that on the air before we ve dimension, that is emerging game is ongoing. Yes, it is a point I so we we wanted to provide some examples of how this is actually happening. Why would be important and the secrecy surrounding it because at this point as well, for this. We have to conclude that it may never be possible to know exactly how many military installations exist. Ass the surface much less under it, but It is almost entirely certain that there are more on the way, possibly being built now, possibly with money from your taxes to pay on which country live in and definitely without your knowledge, oh yeah, and, as you know, our space programmes continue to prosper, the private ones were working with Militaries

Moon Base is not far away. You guys, I think our lifetimes Moon base. I would totally live on a moon base. I would real I'm. I don't know about you, but I'm when those people who, if I got a one way ticket to Space- and I guess we're just gonna shoot you off- can't come back. Gonna die on the ship. I would be all about it. I just wanna go to sample that famous moon cuisine. So the temporary like Phooey drip. Freeze, freeze, dried everything, ok yeah! Instead just ice cream anymore near had moon cheese. Oh no, I hear moon refrain. Beans are exquisite possessing an alibi when it comes like it looks like a rice krispies treat probably one of the reasons I was so disappointing totally do there were three. I was soon the point when I learned the truth about moon pies that they're just like manufactory tenancy, just regular olfactory pies, I was not a clever childcare. Is me.

Like ninety percent palm oil, so did the Navy ever actually pursue this concept, this rock site concept at point, sir or elsewhere, Do you know that was nineteen? Seventy one study that discuss the various methods of C4 excavation, but by that point, Nineteen, seventeen in the? U S, more of that sort of development was classes So we don't know it. Who was happening now on the ocean floor, We do know it remains the stuff. They don't want you to know o n I have no, of course, we'd, be remiss if we didn't mention their multiple non military efforts to build sustainable underwear habitats and I think it is for pure research does it it would be like living in space in many ways you know, so it's not every same not. Every underwater installation is

I too secretly deploy submarines attack people exactly something This is about what happens when a bunch People live in deep underwater start. Stop being. Listen, Starvin! Real! Have you seen the episode of Planet earth about the deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep ocean is all play added? Oh my god! It's like a nightmare escaping imagine open up your window every morning in there's like an anglerfish, does like dangling it's weird little lure. I thought I saw all the only reassuring thing about that part of the planet. Due to tremendous pressure? The vast majority of animals are so tiny living, makes me feel safe if, though, if they were even I'd afoot longer, it would be too much love craft for me.

It goes on there too there so shout out to the Marine LAB underwater laboratory it's one of the longest serving C4 habitats in history. I think it is the longest serving in that is in key Largo Florida. It's been around since nineteen eighty, four, it's in sinner too. If you wanna go yet that's that's. Because I think we also go there were instead of going to the underwater hotel. Let's just go to the marine lap. Let's do all of them. Ok, you go to the rock sightings. That sounds like a dope party at the rocks. I scare you appoint sermon also it is a dream of my own or, if any of you out, their friends and neighbours have ever done this, but it's completely possible to travel by cargo ship. She the girl, that's what I was trying to remember the term for let go we're all over the place, a levy Gus my friends statement of our dearest friends. Thou holy cow has been

since we ve done, I'm sure had gone, asked our First, a shout out today comes from Jacob Jacob says: High Matt, Nolan Ben I've been listening to your show for a while. Now it's a wonderful way to help keep me seeing while working in a metal shop. I would no. If you know what we know and what we know, we don't know about area fifty one but hey you just throughout the Jacob. I think we got you covered. I grew up in southern Nevada and lived there for ten years. My dad was in the military, relatively high, ranking too, and still I heard almost nothing about it other than one of my friends. Dad's work there, but couldn't say what he was doing. Also read this on air or on podcast. Candy, I guess, could I get it stay shout out for my very special wife, Kelsey guess what Kelsey down down down down down down the shutter or you can now gives a happy birthday. Kelsey

things for writing to his Jacob. We do have do you have some other? I think we talked about everything one in some earlier episodes to it continually comes up. We have some videos of about it on Youtube that we definitely recommend you check out now we ve got one from Helen. She says: hey guys, I just want to say you're awesome, thanks Helen. We think you're awesome too I have never been much any conspiracy, but I've enjoyed learning from you all. I respect very deeply that you start with the facts. And then- and I say that with the court's quote- fingers Then talk about your own opinions? The sign of a great intellectual is that he can present facts and opinions as separate. I've been so as barbaric. Working with four to every episode Athens. I don't know if you travel up that way. Much, but I'd always have a free place to stay a man. How now so nice, I re? Ok, I'm embarrassed that I was the one to read it. I thought I'd die, I'm blushing all over and I live

friends- and I think these guys due to live their further while in the end and miss very much so yeah, My question is: will this this email goes on re? What is she buttering us up for something I'm mad you're right bed there there is more I was so enraptured by that that the compliments being lavished upon is that I didn't even noticed. There is the point of all this I've been wanting to request a shoutout for ever since you first started them. Yes, I'm listening that long awesome. But want to have a show idea to include now I have to one the hollow moon. Talking about Moon cuisine, space ship. I just heard this theory on history channel the eyes. The moon hollow and is it a spaceship? Was it a spaceship, an ancient relic of annex? terrestrial yeah? Did humans? yet here on the moon, I'm gonna say no well. We should look in

Ok, I guess we can do that mad. The moon is relatively unexplored there's. That was very true, so it is possible that there are things it certain that there are things there that we are not yet aware of one hundred percent. It is very tall milkshake to sip to think that it could be a right. Of a space where I would say that we must be implying. I seriously if it's how I was thing like Zambians like a proper something like a piece of space scenery. So yet I mean, I think it's definitely worth looking two. I didn't know that their history channel was looking at that stuff engine aliens. Ok, We will. We will dig in and see if we can give it a go, let's see what's out, because it also be interested in finding out just what what we say spectres on the moon, but hasn't been discovered. Yet you should check Our sister podcast stuff, you few MRS histories, to pour episode on the guy

moon hoax. If you Some some moon, tomfoolery, there's some good stuff in there all kinds of wacky ideas the people had in their heads about what was on the mountains, a check those out from HOLLAND Tracy. And then Helen goes on to have a second idea, Gmos there's been or to experiments proving their terrible for you. What's up with that, likely modified organisms proving that Ok, I am then stood in there because I dont, while more suggesting yeah yeah. I have. I am not personally of familiar with a lot of studies or experiments pertaining to this. A personal level. I will say that I don't see anything wrong with Lee Baleen food fraud labeling food is containing Gmos. I completely

don't see why somebody would have a bug on their Butkus about it, but the idea of the studies. We would really need to look into those yeah too ready to do it happen The only issue I could see arm plants that are so civically modified to withstand certain pesticides. Are insecticides I can only imagine that that's the only place that I would be worried I even at all about genetically model issues there how I can cause them like soup, bugs and stuff that I make that I know That's it! That's a good point because we know with large gale agriculture, agri business. We know. Been a trend towards a hum. Dennis I will address agricultural products like you. It's very real possibility that, as we recall listen. If you listen to this now, the banana

as we know, it may be extinct within our lifetimes because it says Finally, just there I think there's been cloned and this will be the first time humanity lost the most popular banana, which is I banana flavoured candy tastes different. Think about listen to the modern Banana Cavendish V Gross Michelle. The Lessingham says is that she is a book on the subject called altered genes, twisted truths and ass. She says she's She says she love for us to have it by the studio if we wanted it. So please help me out so much love thanks so much Helen and, as you know, shoot us an email. Maybe we can now can arrange a visit. The next goes to Samuel. He wrote us an email, he says hello, I'm an artist, and I want to send a gift to you. Guys think you may appreciate, but I dont know who, how to address it so that in Berlin and no and Paul will receive it

please tell me what addressed to send it to thank. You will first of all Samuel as an artist good on you, sir. It is. Not easy to to do that you have some kind of influence. Money from the art the you create and if not, I hope you are doing something else fulfilling in your life. That is, you know, buddy you pay rent, Catherine. Could game ok, but I'm just saying you know it's cool your creating art and science that you want to send it to us agreed our address. Is everybody right this down? If you are not scary, and you don't want to hurt us. Please write this down. Definitely no Unabomber, I'm ok with a scary, scary, male right on my dismay. Possessed her watching the man Hunt Series yeah, it's very, very good! Well, If you're on a man hunt fur, then mad, and no here's where you go. It's EC seven five:

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