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From you at those two psychic power since government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know a little will come back to the show. My name's MAX is nice until further than that makes this stuff, he don't want. Let's start today with a question You guys next now, because ever had an event that you, certain occurred and then later found out it didn't know where people you didn't. I had one really recently. I was positive there David Attenborough had died, and I positive that I have more and his death because I was a huge fan of is- and I thought

it was just something that I had dealt with already and then I saw a ready. Oh he added a new David. Amber thing is with him were discussing animals in the deep who have. By luminescence anyone where the wonder why they would do that higher, like caused more with that of no no, he never died. He never die. No, he still live. Let's hear Nazi, let's get for him for sure what value lousy ever so I had to say where I was convinced that there was this promo for a television show that was on him tv, I think, probably in the nineties, liquid television, and then there is the key on flax. Like can weird animals. There is weird clay measure in strange kind of already animation, stuff, I was convinced that this promo existed. Where it was guy running up and down stairs while a John Zone Track play John Zone. Is this weirdo saxophone player is unmistakable dislike blasted, crazy, wild sex point, and I

find it they I'd I'd better. With a friend of my about transforming, I was like tat. Liquid television promo right as when I first discovered Johns arm, it, doesn't exist? It just does not exist to man, but I've been on. It was part of the narrative that I assigned to covering this artists, and yet it is complete false, so there an interesting thing that occurs in the situations in these situations, where people say? Oh I could have sworn than this that the reality of what occurred was was event a and then the rest of the world says HO ho ho ho. No MAX, then, be and it has always been a then be Mary Orwellian right now build the way. I see it, it's it's almost details

of an event. A lot of time, like small things, details about a pop culture a car in a line and a film they're all things that are coming up, where it either is to be distorted slightly well, what is what This means there are. There are several possibilities right number, one, the one that hers most readily to most people is AU pair. Ass. We were mistaken, perhaps we perhaps you know, given the wash and erosion of time and minutes under the next, we our memories of blurred a little bit nets. Very common will look at that as well. The other one is what if people are lying, what are their gas lighting you? What, if this liquid television promo exists and for some reason everyone agreed that I'll Brown never hear this and never see it again. You know I could just get lost in the internet. They allow

times are things that happened is Reno prior, to a certain time of thousands, they just want documented, very well on the internet, specially video. The second point that I guess I just I've never not been able to find some thing that that you know connected. To some obscure clip that I wanted to find someone's rip dvd Hs of it. It's on Youtube in some anything, even like Wikipedia pages like I was. I try to cross reference, John Sore and tv promos and liquid television, and there was some weird action, where, like a guy who did about of cartoons, for liquid television had worked with John Zorn and a graphic design capacity, but that was the only connection and I was just totally tangential as for as we know, because this leads us to another possibility, and this is the topic of they show, which are you written to us, to request on Facebook, Twitter and well hope,

with you and and of course, email to people. Ladies and gentlemen, there is something more cosmic at work behind phenomenon what, if stead of ordinary human foibles. The past appears to be altered because We live in a world of intersecting, parallel universes of shifting histories of multiple mutable realities. What would we call this thing. Yes, this is known as the men Della effect. It was first proposed under by this name by this author Fiona Broom. It was a dragon con here, an Atlantic two thousand five she's, having just as pretty simple conversation in a green room hanging out and I think they're talking about Nelson Mandela in she, she realised that a lot of the people she was talking with, believe

that Nelson Mandela had died while he was in prison much in the same way that you believe the David Attenborough had died in the wilds of Africa in a yes and in she didn't she knew that he wasn't dead. At least she believed that he wasn't dead in her world. And you know they just discussed a little more, and I that this maybe me, we what you know and what I know are different because we're in some kind of different time stream, or we experienced at least a fraction of a different time stream yeah. These were these are mostly authors in the group, and I- realized, I think, is very daddy. I were there. I am sure that several felt that they did have a realization so Although the Mandela conversation launched

This launch this authors initial investigation, as many of you who have written into, I saw a twitter facebook, messages have read, instead a series of children's books, known as the baron, still bears, or should I say, the baron steam, I thought it was Bernstein. When I grow it was burned, bears or Bernstein bears. The that would maybe that was like a leak, acute kidding, no yeah. Maybe this is how I pronounced there, and when I saw the word that I heard you I guess I could see you guys. Remember those books, you ever read the music. I remember the books, I remember the cartoon and tune. They put. It's so there's a jungle, there's a song and they mostly baron, saying the baron steam bears that's how they say it. How do you remember that the way is there really This was a matter.

I have a right here. How do hold on they say that two different way they did the TWAIN Mo. Yes, there is the feeling? Is that twenty, He said Bernstein so like Byron Stain as someone from Tennessee, and I can verify that there might be its weighing there? That's that an excellent example. If you were like many people, ladies and gentlemen, you remember-

the series of books and shows, as the baron still bears. I, however, every a single example of the books you came. The worthy, the messaging you can find will bear the title. Baron stain, b e r e in s t a I n. Named after the creators of the book series. I you know I wonder if it if the the the baron steam baron staying crosses dialect lines. So I wonder if anyone who may be doesn't have an accident, a southern accident, no as Bernstein Justice. Why reading some of the Youtube comments on this video, when the hell did it become the baron Stayin bears Fruit imply the Monday a fact I am from the e universe. I remember when it was the baron steam bears. I remember it being spelled Baron

team but pronounced their stance, the administration. Is it a visual q? Is it like? It was for me I think, based on theme song, that's how I interpret it in London you hearing and pronounced, but now even that is a little bit off. A lot of different things that can go wrong with your memory and you can t really latch on to certain queues and feel like their infallible when in fact, they complete yet is a great example of the personal, that we put on all information that we take in right we the lens through which we experienced the world and then think we things: its oil through our own Linz. I think that's what we're seeing here and go to go further there. This dovetails into an example: a book a media analysed in a graphic designer Marshall, Mcluhan and winning Quinton Fury, who the book is called

what I thought it was called for a long long time was the median is the message an inventory of it. Sad, a copy. This will commercial for years and years and years- and I realized. Again years after owning this, but that the actual, the medium is the massage. No, yes the small it's a small, and in my. In my view, again, going back and access point about the subjective, nature observation. Maybe was that I was just wrong. I know that a lot of people don't like to admit that they are wrong, but maybe you didn't know all the facts about Nelson Mandela. That is really if we are applying the simplest explanation that would seem to be it but The fact is not limited to the two examples who popular examples mentioned in the end, the personal examples we other exam

Will touch on things like geography the number of: U S, state the size of Scotland, Wales, the arrangement of architecture, goes in South EAST Asia and Oceana. I can also see examples, a touch on chronology rights. There are people say while the Columbine Master did occur, but not now Ninety nine! Ninety six. You can go and There were more about brooms theory. The Mandela effect at the website. It has been maintained to list examples of this in an hour Equally asked questions page. She defined as real memories of a history that does not match with the documented history. In this reality, yeah could be yeah, maybe that's what it is and she drew her she also that doesnt claim to know why

this occurs, why this interpretation occurs. But there are several theories so first we have my personal favorite alternate realities, this idea that somehow so thus are experiencing parallel universes, where only Me little minutiae little detail are changed things that you would really really have to go super micro and even see difference serving like holding up two photographs and there's one little thing, that's different in one or the other, and you really have to focus and figure out what the thing is that it will read times that of a rent or even even small, in Miami leave. Maybe we way a shoe tie time like, as that, like a bar game, we have to do a matching. The pictures and sanctions different color is chartreuse exactly so boring. Staring. The Mandela fact occurs when a person has put

I remember the show sliders oh yeah- I should have a quantum leap, a kind of thing rain. Yes, in sliders, they are a group. The pictures and sanctions different. What color is short truth exactly so boring you, this daring. The Mandela fact occurs when a purse Shuddering between or tease me sliding between alternate, realities in a quest to eventually slide back to their their home, their earth earth. Prime and on the way they have a series of adventures. So I think you're right. That's it much in the same vein as Quantum Leap, although really focusing more on this alternate. Reality idea right over ample one version of a sliders universe. Gyp but our might be called Nino Jiffy and

curious George, that's another one! Actually, the Jiffy Jeff thing I got you know. I got the advocates an example of confusing or conflicting jiffy pop with Jeff Peanut Butter, throne and thinking on always Jimmy the air jiffy, especially for a kid jiffy, is like one word to think about more than just an peanut butter is not very common outside of the: U S we're yeah your weirdly ended peanut butter. How indefinable so is so just like the thing with the number of? U S? States, if you are not in that area of the world, it's easier to make it easier to be confused about. Yes, indeed, I did notice that a lot of this is: U S. Centric loudly Dela Fact- and I wonder if you listen this in your international, you somewhere else in the world. If you have examples from Europe, we know either low

government local pop culture, ya. Think as it is it is it very much tied to a particular experience, a set of a language. Let's say with a social language of ok, we ve got these products, everyone knows about remembering them, certainly or another example might be an iconic cartoon character or a character from a book like the Bangety bears. Example and I will never not pronounce it that way. Curious, George, so maybe there's aversion and ultra reality were curious. George, you know had a premium. I'll tail, like all those people whose did Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, yeah or that George, and had wouldn t right right, all kinds of these things, We go to another theory, which is why we ve looked at in the show before in the past, and this is one always remember that you run a first next. Oh yes, that's the matrix, I'm no just kind of close to my name MAX. I feel I gets close to my heart, but when I saw the matrix it really

he told me, and then, when I was reading about this Mandela factor, realise oh wait! A second That would explain a lot of things here, though the river from here on out he's boilers yeah! You wouldn't want to spoil that. Ninety ninety six movie the matrix right right because well I realize oh wait a second that would explain a lot of things here over the river from here As regards the crux of that of the problem whereas you were saying so this theories. Is that what we are actually experience experiencing when we have these beliefs or thoughts that don't match up with the time line. That is, common to everyone else were actually experiencing some kind of bliss in the matrix. Some kind of little yes, something maybe a glitch, something that isn't quite right: the identical cat black cat walking by twice. But in this case you know,

swear or New Zealand is relative to Australia. When you, when you learn it in your geography class way back in the day so essentially we were living in this joint programme or hollow deck, or some kind of programmable entity. Thing that when it firmware update every once in a while. There are some errors and that's what death were experiencing in kind of like this theory I don't necessarily believe it, but I think it's cool feels responsible. Largely for this control is the Credible science fiction, writer, Philip K, deck, learn. A lot of his stories hinge on alternate realities and the linking of the whole idea of the matrix was entirely lifted from Frank Authority. Dick the idea that we are actually in some sort of trance, like state being found formation there we perceive to be our real life when in fact we are like being harvested or something like that, and we have no movement, we're just basically blobs, I'm another one of stories that was recently made into a pretty successful

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It's almost like this idea of a Mandela effect is sort of like a reverse deja vu kind of you know where it's like. You have the sense that you weren't you experience something back to the same. Only if the sense that it's it's different, almost hear an ovum from Saint Jacques Chirac earlier Familiar seemed suddenly unfamiliar right, disconcerting awaits illyrian, azure blue line- I don't speak French, ok Timeline gets a thing, war referred to in this phenomenon. It is very much a gut feeling you even then you can go only in an error in research materials and you can prove it. Of wrong pretty easily. So what we are talking about here is this I sense that this is how it was and then oh, no, it wasn't and what he when were you go from there? How do you use this information? Is a yeah there's, a subjective feeling

bit of a tangent, but there's a subjective feeling. You can expect, and where there is there something dissociative about it, which is close to break where, for instance, the poles of the people who meet and feel like they ve known each other forever, and there are some people who would propose in sum, all types they do, and the concept of a multi versus endlessly fascinating and has done wonderful things for fiction at this point. It's you who clearly at the rhetoric, thing no one has travelled to and back between universes in a pub he acknowledged reproducible way and you any of the stories that we're talking about are cautionary tales are moralistic tales. The major is travelling. That way through

through different universes. Anything the matrix itself, we can agree is in it as real as the physical world again spoil, and take you to say that I would have totally forgotten, but we haven't, we have another, we have another, theory to write, one of the more kind of Buzz Killy down to earth theories. Regarding the middle effect- is that the internet self has just started, though our the way. We remember things because anytime, you see me more. A troop I can play on a piece of pop culture, for instance, boiler alerts, Star wars, episode for get ready off european gas view here is when and I Karnak Line What how does he go? Look, I'm your father. That's not how goes it is no I am your father

yet also like Ricky Ricardo, never said Lucy, you got some splain into. Do me at once. Did that line appear and I love Lucy, but but that is what we associate yes, but you'll see a meme with let's say that online somewhere you'll see someone talking about remembering it in a blog or something you'll, see little pieces ran up, and it seems that in reading these things. It's almost like. Looking at a photo, of yourself as a child or something family photos of yourself. You may not truly have the memory of being. Time when you're a little kid and you're playing outside with your mom or something. But you can, by seeing the sandbox or seeing the playground or the backyard. You can kind of your own memory of what that day was like even though you did experience if you dont have a a vivid memory of it, seeing the image and a jog something and then create yourself. So this

here he states that when you read these things online, these means is tropes your kind of distorting your own memory of. What's the, what the actual thing was and our memories, don't even really need me, help screwing this up because they kind of shock I mean about any like courtroom scenario like a tv courtroom drama. Where are you a witness on the stand who swears they saw person in the lineup commit this crime, and then there are mediately three or four other witnesses that say no way it was this person enemy. I actually one of the best examples of this in the movie my cousin Veni think, but there is a great sequence where it highlights the foul ability of memory. You know as far as I witnessed testimony which has been determined to be pretty unreliable right. We can also see that you, frankly Hariri, horrific numbers about people who ve been falsely convicted of a crime or

or who have confess to a crime. They did not commit an believed that they did because of this ecological manipulation that occurred during the interrogation process. I almost said interview, but that's not quite correct. Is it in half see. I know it sounds crazy, but it happens because The reason memories, one of the most inefficient processes in the human mind, is that. Every single one of us when we remember an event whatever it is inside the Barents bears a moment where you fell in love and you're still so in love that you feel like a piece of you. Is there that's beautiful every time. You remember that you're not remembering what you think you're remembering maybe so consciously associated with emotions, you're feeling now or emotions you felt at the time. Were you MIKE pleaded with things

occurred in the interim some time between the creation of the memory. But before you remembered so, let's say one of your favorite moments ever was: watching the matrix in you remember seeing it in a movie theater and you can save yourself. I had a meme sprite. I had a necessary crunch and I got the big popcorn, but that might be. Correct, you might just be remembering the stuff that like eating might be hungry when you're, remembering it in the further away you get from that moment in time, the less reliable is because every time you are remembering a memory which are act? doing is remembering the last time you thought about it. Take making a copy of a copy of a copy. It just degrades every time you recall it's inside yes, sometimes as things some tracks things grades artifacts, that's agreed put it

the time you remember something were essentially playing telephone with past versions of yourself and connect is nowhere near as good as it might appear a. We know that this is true because there's something amusing or depending implications disturbing that you can watch right now. Why there's a mental list, his name is there in Brown, you probably know who he is he's he's put out. A video is a tv series or I know he did have a tv series does different television specials in the UK and in the end one. Oh, you don't alive. I think we talked about one where he created a mentor even candidate, allegedly at least on the television show heated yeah attempted to, and then also aware is the guy who Can't socially engineer people into accepting blank,

currency sized pieces of paper as money just by talking to him, but usually only if their native speakers of the same language, he speaks even one where he was to convince serving quotation, fingers a roomful of atheists that they believe in God yeah. It's always a thing. It's intense, that's crazy and others. On the whole, there just stood before even get into what it actually is, there's a whole host of psychological things that occur when you are a part. Television production in the audience, though, you know they all this stuff for free its levels of manipulation right the view of the tv, so they yes icily since they may not necessarily have the same results. A man on the street or woman in the street thing bite on what one on one week, then some weird stuff? That's happened, ring yeah, oh yes, there is,

Video wherein daring Brown asked I'm in Peg Leah, the actual writer to write down a childhood gift like just right they think the child you get! That he's always wanted, write it down. Put in Oslo seal it with the day with the time and keep your eyes person and then they go meet meat, daring, brown and. Why does it knows the entire time he's I await a medium his entire day beforehand, here being manipulated, rose memory, is being in fact affected almost infected, maybe Maybe it's virtuous word as a result, so dear How could one does is? Does

thing, he asked spoil a too much touching him at certain times rise, directing attention to certain places in the room which people call priming night purposeful fraud, slips, for instance, and the Result is that he tells in peg, she turned around. An open. His present, some big box, any imposes Is this what you wanted in his amazed? How did you know he says this? Is this was exactly where one ok sure is this threatens IKEA everything. It's exactly. I pictured it surrender area and then ok, I want you. Do I'm glad you like your present. What should you one last thing when you take out their own below, show the Cameroon, the seal, everything away to open it? I want you need what it says and he opens in regions like that's weird, that's fine it somewhere.

Because what we originally wrote down with something different, but the experiences again between the creation that memory and the active remembering changed so past, is much more. Good conversation. I guess there then the solid process, we believe it to be at this point there is not any? Will I dont know what you guys found: there's not any solid reproducible proof of the mandate In fact, there are many many people who believe they ve seen and we all have is inexplicable moments, but as far as History, changing. That's a whole other store. All that has occurred. Shears weary gets crazy, so the idea that were exploring here alternate realities, alternate universes

massive rewriting of history. It turns out east, at least a few distances that actually happens in one of the big ones, we'd be retro active censorship, You may have heard of something like the kid stays in the picture. Under the stalling regime during these political perches and stuff, they would actually go back and Aris people from history from official records from photographs. Game is this idea of revising history to suit your particular, and you know, and this phenomenon we're talking about it- concerned, be capitalize down, because our minds do gravitate towards these patterns. We see something enough times. You know: why not just accept that's how it happened and most people will yeah we, because most people again are creatures that

arrive on consensus. That's how this at how this gout single species has been able to spread around the world, so you can the experiments wherein a group of fortune people are assembled in, and thirteen them know. What's gonna happen, and they're just the simple math problem is displayed, for instance, or two lines. There are of different lengths and people say they're the same length, or they may say so, means outright wrong, and in many cases, unlucky person, fourteen number, twelve or whatever eventually in it, surprisingly short amount of time. But leave it because they are outnumbered happens and then I would like to think this any coupled with the power of a state agency to censor something like, for instance,

linen gave a speech on nature, winning only gave the speeches tightness soviet troops in Moscow. There was a photograph taken in the foreground, was Leon, Trotzky and lead. Common ev and then later the photo was altered and again this is nineteen. Twenty they don't have Photoshop. This is tat your photos, altered, nay, removed. Trotzky and they remove less common. Have is this: I heard the waterfront, I think Never seeing this nature the body watering next to him and then there's like this In addition, in a lot of this happened, so much of this happened that you can fine entries on censorship of images in the Soviet Union. Either in endless continue for decades. For instance, there was a cosmic, not Valentine bordering and he died in nineteen

sixty one in a training accident, because the cosmonaut programme at the time was brutal, It was a numbers game. Good luck, right, let's just the euro, the emphasis was, let's get someone to space. And so once have or are they gonna make it back and they said the other being. It wasn't even situation where they cut someone loose because it would have jeopardized, equipment or something my daughter so many new. What we should do, a lost cause, not think they're, so there are so many interesting trysting wrinkles to the story, but yeah Valentine died in nineteen sixty one and the soviet government. Airbus ten out of photographs of the first group of cosmonauts, and so he had already been avail here already appeared and publicly available photographs you I mean the matter was out of the bag sue

the leading the government controlled stuff, just if anything fed. Stories of lost cosmonauts and this death and that his death, as well as his life became secret until the meat Nineteen eighties, these are just. These are specific examples for a country, and I don't mean to pick on the Soviet Union. Theirs Nothing else, then I think we all No, I mean that's Niles Latrine guys we old enough now that we, text books have changed, especially history textbooks threat which which the good thing right, because we gain more knowledge ass, a species we change. Our textbooks we alter them sign

is very different. Have may or may not have happened right on the textbook we have. That could be an issue but also details. Let's say of about the molecular structure of certain things or need the atomic after we're understanding that more and more- and you know when my parents were in high school in college, the knowledge we have very different than we had so that's a good thing. The problem is: when you look at it story right. You know some some of the things that are supposed to be set in stone that can't really change because they happened. The outlets like one of those two, the victors go the spoils and one of his was being able to write the story right. Wingers, write, history, books and ended in that That's a great point because we did. We would this earlier in a video? Why dont tech what's in different countries. Agree! like the next book written by Japan and the textbook written by China

chinese and japanese governments is to differ widely, even though those countries are comparatively a stone's throw away from one another, I you know what to do. To say about World WAR two, and what do people believe and if there is If there is absolute truth, how do individuals, find it surrounded in a world like wait? What is what is sanity? What is history, how do we find these things surrounded by people who are believe something else? It's frightening to wonder. If, one of our Europe whether you listen, you show your roommate now, if just one of the people this entire stuff. They want you nothing. New something to be true and no one else agreed with them.

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link, my hair. All I see look over. There is culture guys, Lascaux journeys does Ding Dong last Algeria's does call MRS, not Rogers, and this is Berwin Yang and you might know it's from shared credits, including us. An owl game show shrill nor from claims and broad city, so yeah. What those credits you can tell these people must know what they're talking about and here's the thing we do. If you listen to this pop culture podcast and we Satan opinion about culture, it is henceforth law and actually it will maybe even be signed into the rules of culture, which is a whole list of cultural items that are cannon and every episode we get into the formative culture that made our guest say. Culture was for them, it's so edifying, so informative. You get a sense of who these people are and what influence them. It's really beautiful. I would say I mean here, is a list of gas or we have had on the show Joe Kimball, Michael URI, eighty Brian ECHO, Wolden, Lauren lap, guess: Color Scala Nathan, Lee Gram, Patty areas in Nepal, buyer gave led men, Jimmy Valley, and so many more every episode. We do a sixty seconds long said MC called, I don't think so, honey where we pick something and pop culture that will help us not liking lately and we rail against it. We are where we are and chew it garage. Well that sounds interesting. Do you and you want to keep it in the eye her radio family? Listen to last pulcheria tells me: I heard a radio app apple pie casts or wherever you get her podcast. That's disturbing question

discuss amongst yourselves and while you're discussing this amongst yourselves, I go back and think about some of the personal moments that you may have had with this there's really really interesting book by Gaining Neil Stevenson called an at them. And in an item again, is a work of fiction, but I think it applies here in Adam. This is somewhat of a smaller, but not really. There is a group of people called. Raters and what they do Is they changed the pass by Altering records, using using techniques of writer. To essentially daring brown people and frightening thing about this. Is that it

can happen. It has happened in history, it is happening now. Since we can see the slow erosion in some cases of historical facts like very few people talk about the fact that Martin Luther King is documented arguing for a war on inequality, arguing four things that would be typify characterized as socialists shortly before his death and you'd be hard pressed to find those speeches being quoted. In the media right or being quoted in textbooks, and to honestly look at it. Just because there is not scientifically accepted proof of this Mandela effects, which may be in another world. The moon dollar effect. That doesn't mean at its automatically now

true and that's a clever way for it to be constructed because If there is not a way to disprove. A thing then we're kind of that new, a standstill. So I have to, see I still jubilee even the concept of parallel universes. Do you think that somewhere There is another version of us: a multiple or infinite versions, I think, we'll find out even within our lifetimes- maybe if are truly alternate, The first is that we can test for, depending on how far we and go with the alleged see in a couple of other large scale, scientific tests that are going on the sea. You can look there. A lot of things are exploring are now as it as a human race to test the very, very tiny

and also the very, very large and of any on how deep we can go into some of that research through? I think we may be over. That alternate reality exist. I dont think that particular thing. Personally now I dont think that this Mandela effect is a case of alternate realities. I think it's perception via seas, and just remembering, wrong. I wonder to it. One thing strengthen the case, for it would be there were things that were a little bit. Less because these are gonna grouped into things right, chronology, well known events yeah. There is also a lot of celebrity and then also a lot of you ethical, south rain and small changes like to know point with the with the shoelaces right

and so it makes me. It makes you wonder if the guy, should be strengthened by say having the rain friend of amino acids he different or some or maybe there's a US in a world where light. Is it a slightly faster, slightly slower speed? You know what I mean, a universal, what's accepted, to be a universal concept Did we already talked about how our brains are storing information differently now than they have ever in the past human brains, we Of the internet, I don't I don't If we have, I know we all talk about it off. Air, ok. Will this. I think this may also be the culprit for why this stuff is cropping up more and more dynamic for me, it's almost like why bother remembering things when I can just find it on the internet? If I need you, you know I can devote their part of my brain to other things. Gardeners wide, but you Don T said the other day is the sort of like in here

sense that there is a safety net like I don't remember, phone numbers anymore, never again, because they're always gonna be on my phone by whatever I get, my car dies on the highway and my phone is dead and you know that I am utterly alone, because I don't have information. My brain, the more evident like bill, said: if, if we're remembering things like If we're not costly, remembering things and storing them in and replacing them, then what is going on in our heads like. What's a what information is left their rights as the access to this information turn the white dead over rebellion people with internet access, as turn their brains into something more like audience. Members rather than creators, a wonder, An extreme example of eight not too distant. There were? This might happen? Is another black mere episode called the entire history of you wear

Everyone who is anyone is fitted with this lends connects implant. That allows you to record everything all the time and you can access these memories, like you would a folder of of video files, and you can you know even security and airport security check points are done by playing back for the big the person in charge of security, the last forty eight hours of your life and therefore you don't have. They can see how he didn't pack, a bond. Jim Pack, a bomb whatever in that future again, two different from we're talking about with being do recall things on Facebook, for example, being able to recall things on Youtube, not that far removed? What does and your memory. Banks will have a better term atrophy you know: do we lose part of ourselves and and can we then peace complete? this objective to being duped by false him?

nation being out there because we have lost our ability to actually fall These memories for cells is yet another example of evolution by me in a negative way where we are devolving are mine from being able to create these married because we are so used to them being available, forcing the touch of a mouse or cognitive leave becoming cyborgs, and it is true that we are losing death information. So there's like an x y axis we're increasingly knowing a little bit about a lot of stuff right when you're, like the equivalent of the paragraph of Wikipedia article about a quite a few things, but that depth of knowledge is the that depth of knowledge is increasingly being Larsson. People and encouraged to learn that way, both in the things we watch you know and the fact that where we essentially outsourcing our brain

to an external thing which not a which is scary but may be hard. The evolution will your we taught. I think it was several months ago, and I dont member, if we're on the air about it. But we talked about the I mean idea that made humanity itself is just a temporary staff, in the evolution of a life form that is capable of going to the stars and spanning galaxies in a meaningful way or even alternate universes, you know it would have to be not so squishy. As humanity. I think, all of these things are excellent, fodder for a whole, had up a certain themselves, so we should probably scoot for today S yeah. Unfortunately, in this time line it is time to go, let's, let's and on question. Do you want there to be alternative universes? Does the idea

he'll do you move. So why lead slow. You can reaches directly at Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. We are conspiracy, stuff. You can find an instagram at the ever so awkward accurate STD w. Why t care? But it's ok, you get used to hopefully will do and In the meantime course, you can check out our website, which is being updated, as we speak speaking spoiler alert or maybe has already been updated in your time line right. His we're already doing kind of time. Travel for new and alive show her yeah we're. Finally, gonna get some pictures of Niles upon the site right, so seating visit stuff. They don't want you to know dot com if you really into this stuff. I usually do this, but I want to make a recommendation. If you have Hulu checking eleven twenty two sixty three it's this year,

is about the J F K, assassination and its more time travel, but it's kind of a little hole to an alternate dimension and away, and it deals with the affair. The time, travel so yeah No, the book is very too, but this is available and you can consume it, because that We consume things now sitting in watching the word. Consumers needs so uncomfortable can you home- and this is how I can soon content for we do- men There's one more thing. If you would like to write to us directly with your answer about your experiences with our perspective on the the phenomenon known as the Della effect, or perhaps again, women dollar effective, where Europe

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