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need to. We wanted to take time to do something a little bit different. I guess. First, we should
We should talk about this episode of the sweet kids that we were a while back. You guys Matt. No, we we didn't
on prophecy predictions impressions
This episode came out on January. First, twenty sixteen and sixteen
naive summer, children back, though how things have changed
Yes, we like everybody,
listening did not reach
we understand or is
our friends say sake rock what the future will hold and
to be completely transparent now, which is
what this shows about of
You are a personal lives to varying degrees in the course of our explorations together,
November of this year, my mother
Susan Bowling passed away unexpectedly like allow
people listening in the crowd today
not my first rodeo with death and like every,
buddy List New won't be my last I've seen a lot of people go. I've been there. Unfortunately,
and this was a peaceful passing as peaceful as these
these can be, but I bring this up only because it's it's a matter of family
and we have all lost people.
More so now,
than we. We thought we might have in twenty sixteen. You know
this show is to me at least, not to speak, for
you guys man know, but this is one of the most important things have ever done and when we say that you are you're, the most import
part of the show, sometimes, if may feel like we say it like a cliche, but what that really means is that
in a very real way, you are our family to that and no were kind enough to be able to make it to the funeral service. For my mother, we had to sit-
were terrible: Stadler Brothers, song alone,
as outrage?
so wanted to thank everybody and, more importantly, just to say you, we can't find any proof of predictions.
and prophecies the really come to pass spoiler alert, but what we can do is be here for each other. So if you are going through some
if you need someone to talk to the least on my end, I want you to know you can reach out to me
Personally, I am terrified of fallen, so please don't call me, but if you get
you can find me anywhere on the internet. You can find our show on the internet as
and I wanted to thank you- you guys know, and that for us giving me this,
is to say this and for our fellow conspiracy real is seriously. Take me up. If you ever need someone to talk to Benbow in each,
stubby on Twitter happen born on Instagram. But that's that's my bit. That's my TED talk. What about you guys into your statements
myeyedr the same thing, but you'll never find me on social media. So tell he's changing enough. This guy handle every week you like the kids on Instagram, and I mean is this it's hard to pin you down
Can we can find me on at how down all Brown on Instagram and just one echo this family sentiment? I mean you can't spend it
much time with two of the best deeds in the universe and not feel like brother.
I'm only child and I've never really had a brother, he now at least biologically, but gadget
the thing that I have had or ever will have, and I love you both dealing yeah yeah
and I would actually extend
two mission control Paul jacket?
whose need I'm looking at his face right now on earth. Green he's always there always in the background always listening. Never judging
usually the huge enemies, makes a face. You see a mega face both in Alexis Code, name dark. It's the same. It we're all.
When big family here- and it goes back to through you know when
Nor was a producer when we had Alex around here. We ve get Seth Johnson every once in a while, just like our
since coming to visit or something and you don t.
go away. The research like we do and
and come in here and have these conversations and universal worry. We try me very careful with our thoughts and words were in here. It is because
Have you in mind? We are aware
imagine you
in speaking with you, and you know it
We don't take thou lightly and we very much
regime. The time that you spend with us to think
you and I would just say no happy new year.
try and make this next one not sock as much. I know we said that about twenty twenty one,
no you're right, you're right man, that's what,
that's all we can bring in this classic up, so we thought would be interesting to to share with every one, because we talk about famous
let's profits, Nostradamus EDGAR, Casey Bob of anger, and we talk about something that people have been true
to do for a long long time, which is to have some sort of perspective on or even control over there.
Ass uncertainty that the coming years,
days will bring. One thing we can say for certain is that we
being so immensely fortunate to be part of this show
We all wish that we
no predictions are little silly.
Nobody, you guys, but when we, if we talked of before about making a prediction episode and it's just playing with live fire,
but I think we can safely say
nonetheless things. My mom actually said to me, which is we'll get through this together here.
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If we are, the last show recording for the year twenty fifteen we're on the cusp gentlemen, that is
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Well, this is this is the one time here we're ball. Dropping is not only cool but a television event, so happy new year to you guys. So today,
whether or not we are the last pike ass, the twenty fifth here we are definitely the first package for stuff they want. You know twenty sixteen entered
We are talking about something that somewhat apropos is a correct. Yes, we're talking about profits
and the seeing into the future and predicting things that are to come. Maybe perhaps yes, an idea that goes back
to the earliest days of religion. Right. The Oracle of Delphi, aware wherein these priests
safe, would sticks over a fisher in earth
Tripod turn a stool and breathe in the future
from this Fisher and Whisper predictions about what was to come. I, that is a very good
image land. I wish I could have seen that right, love funny story about the famous oracles Adele fires that the
Predictions mutterings of these priestess is were interpreted, lie there
there is real right. This is a common reality, the wheel, seen among different profits, and they should know that the people who were
performing these axes divination. Those with is specifically the oracles, so the English were proud.
See appears in Europe and the maid twelve hundreds, twelve twelve twenty ash
it comes from the French, the twelfth century word for they. She could see whether connected this goes all the way back to the Greek
comes from a word: that's Prof Emma, which means to say beforehand to to foretell. I saw one
What we see is that even before then people had been making predictions right boy
it's a funding to do right to just for every day. Human being all
sitting in your cars or whatever you're doing running it's kind of fun to think what is going to happen in the next five years? Maybe the next hundred years
just for somebody, you doesn't even have any kind of powers, or you know, is in touch with some greater thing. I like to do it,
I'd like to sit around ago. Oh man, I can see this happening with the next world war. Since there is, there
connection between the word prophecy idea of prophecy for telling
sure am the idea like professing something or speak out about something or being a professor, for example, like someone who teaches you know, that's that's an interesting question, because the idea of a profit, none Sally Prophecy, but profit itself is sort of one who speaks for the gods, so it does have the tooth
big for right eye. So professor would be more like declare publicly. If that makes sense, it does
so there is a relationship there, but I dont know if a professors, necessarily speaking for God or by divine instead
nation and I've ever seen a prophetic professor, like on the streets walkin around in the city.
Yet there is a will. There is a group of people now who are pamphlet in the streets regarding cellphone,
some cancer, w H or World Health organisation. But what.
Can you see those? I dont want to Michael? I? U listeners by thinking prophecies of western thing,
should go without saying, but we're going to say it anyway to be fair, the prophecy exist near probably pre day.
Writing because one of the earliest things that man tried to do or humankind tried to do rather would be to forecast the movements of the Heavens.
And to see if there were any correlation between the movements of the sky and the movements on the ground,
most of the earliest civilizations, many of which have been lost. The time were all traditions, so this had to exist before
the western world. I mean we can't be that you, western centric, but the stuff we're gonna hear about usually concerns the western world and we'd like to take a look at several world famous
profits today. This is our. This is kind of a prediction. Show too, I guess I was getting
how you know, speaking of not being rejected in the west,
and where the salient I was thinking about town, the idea like casting bones are like looking it here
trails and things like that features, and I was looking up work or bones fairly backers as far back as like the Shanghai Nasty Ma Am, which was around to live in twenty two b c, and so they found examples of his work. Abounds that were used,
the kind of like see into the future earlier looking into flames in our or, for example, yeah. That's divination rituals, that's that
I wonder if that we also make almost a separate
on its own to because you re
in the liver, wary and trails of go to the tea leaves me Letty leave
Of course I end
There are so many other different methods and one of which, if you live in the? U S, you may be surprised to find
is still practised today in the modern age. Can anyone guess what it is listeners will give a chance? You guys are our fingers, the palms, the white reading of palms or tariff. Oh, it's good!
holiday. Everyone participates in the ass funny, even though it's completely bunk never die of.
Several members of my family who lived and thank stony? No, you didn't leave you here today, so complex
only film or do they tell you. I am a new name. I don't like the Georgia Bulldogs Bull dog when the dies give at a number two it like. I'm pretty sure
ok. Well, I'm gonna. I might be completely incorrect. The last time I was there was still points, a tiny ville and it was not the original break, the athlete them.
Our bureau man rain exactly or zeros I so, let's, let's get a few things out of the way before we
of into this. If you ve already checked out our video and prophecy, then you know some of what we're going to talk about
dimension some specific alleged profits, war would be profits. People thought they were profits
we are also going to look at some of the stuff they said or again, allegedly said
and whether it measures up as the first things first, one of the big questions that you might have is well if there are true profits and if there are true.
specific prognostications whatever of future events, then why do these future events occur if they're still disasters? If someone says the Titanic is going to sink yes,
What he's gonna stop that from happening right, because now we know right or do we
and why is why? Is it what's the old quotation we see through the glass door,
oh you're, something why why it is so much of what is called prophecy seem to be kind of vague, we're, not dimension like time travel troops in books and television. I mean you can't do it. You can't keep Hitler from being born. You know you can't keep Kennedy from being assessed, there's never gonna work, something's, always gonna crop up against you and you're gonna failed. Madame yeah like that desert. That's a perfect point to your. What is the nature of the present relation.
she put the future right. Is it? Is it possible there's a grating in on a Stephen king, but can I know Stephen King is divisive for some people, but he wrote this book about. Someone tries to go back in time and start the Kennedy assess what has mentioned reparation
Yeah great line and areas is the past is obdurate, which show which means that this guy's going back in time.
he's trying to change certain things, but even the little things really really hard to change stubborn again, Wilma it's there will not be changed. We ve been resists changing because it-
this is the only time probably my life had been able to use this statement crackly. It is what it is true that it is the only that so far it. So, let's less, I welcome those problems of prophecy
sceptics like James Randi will tell us that moose prophecies only become predictive in the eyes of people
Looking back in reference to something that already happened. We mean, as some kind of post diction
some retroactive divination right, the other
translated in a way that makes sense to the recent events around them exactly exactly so with with that in mind, when we hope I, what we hope to explore today is
whether there are prophecies that clearly delineated, something that happened in future, whether they were profits did so, whether the least in the cases were looking at and whether the other part is true
whether the fans were the advocates of the believers in these prophecies said years after an event o totally you predicted worldwide.
do I it's a lot of it too has to do with the language of the prophecy, and one of the first ones are gonna get into a very well known, a profit Nostradamus. His were almost written like in the form of
We are little aphorisms, latino sort of like the fortune cookies he, nor can you could apply it to something. If you choose,
see an event in user or you know, there's a thing is gonna blame you can make a jump, a leap and get there if you want to some of my weirder than others as will discuss. But again, it's all about the language and profit. See prophecies do tend not to be. This thing is gonna happen on this day is gonna, be just like
they usually much more vague and open ended. So Sir
the ever should a funny. Well, it's not
wasn't funny to me, but it might give everybody a chuckle I've. A funny story about Mr Dimas, when I was a wee young, take one of my uncle's, who has always been in the fringe Kenneth theories. We saw still hard pressed
the red, she would occasionally just any books out of the blue and one in the books that I received from him was a book about. Nostradamus is prophecies for the end of the world, and this was probably book. There was over my head at the time and it was also the cost of the ninety ninety six Atlanta Olympics. So I read this one pajamas and had this strange strange phrasing, but it was something like in nineteen hundred ninety six build your house.
Rocking sticks. War in fire was sweep over the land and they d, like oh apostrophe, are wishing to me with super like super legit at the time,
I was convinced that the end of the world or the end of the sitting,
would occur in during the nineteen eighty six Olympics and I was an being dead serious you guys. I was terrified to go into the city. I was certain that this mass market paperback had accurately per day
did you journey. My mom made me go to one thing in the rest of the time. I stayed home soon the bomb went off right. Yes,
exactly and then the other was a bombing at the at the Olympic Set Year, what our civilization soldiers on animals when creepy for you at the time to see on the news or somebody here somebody talking about it. I was convinced that the ancient wisdom of no Sir Dinas had saved my life for Anna was for a couple of couple years,
But then we start to look at the interpretations and in a lot of people, are aware of Nostradamus sceptics and believers alike. So, let's get into a guys who, who is this dude?
so his full name was Michel demonstrate dogma and by that the street name, I suppose you could say Nostradamus where my favorite hip hop names of all times is fostered Armas, yes, but I'm so, according to my sources, he was born in December of fifteen of
free and died in eighteen, sixty six, he middle living as liquor, but apothecary sort of either a farmer sally exactly a precursor to pharmacists. About today is
more well known, regarded as a soothsayer or profit. I'm fifty fifty five he published a book called lay poverties, which remains relatively popular even to this day, has been translated, numerous languages I am today you can find the full copyright free pdf this in the public domain. I can get him archive org
courtesy of the Library of Congress, though it should be noted- and this was a nerd something else. Gonna bring up. We're tired.
All these things are interpreted there also translated, literally, quite literally because the original version was written in French, their profits
and the one that you can find that we mention a pdf is completely in French and you can
imagine the little nuances they get lost as it gets changed over the English were to Spanish. I mean you know
in the romance languages. It might be even more similar, then imagine if its translated. Let's say I don't know too
Mandarin or something like that, and people are using these prophecies as in trying to translate them.
men have a bit of the college game for a minute. It I'd only recently occurred to me again how important changes
These are for only works philosophy. How you become like the pre eminent voice here in terms of translating a particular writer,
aiming as you are literally creating Lee interpretation of this work that is going to be consumed and taught and passed around.
And a lot of times that were interpretation definitely applies. I mean it has to end it goes. It goes back. The cylinder seem because it goes back to what we're talking about with oracles right
the priest who, through the civil war in the interpreter,
intermittently earlier, so that this is. This is great that we're getting to this part, because it's not just modern French, its French from the fifth.
hundreds of like, like Middle English, or something may be difficult to it. It would be very, very difficult, although I do love wanting a love about spoken. French, at least, is that everything rhymes you guys everything about how easy it must be to wrap in french
interesting, rapid, yeah you're right. I didn't think about that, but it flows we're nice, a flu it flows.
Enzo Nostradamus predictions are written, as he said in this french and their grouped in a peculiar way.
Grouped in four lines: stanzas quatrains that
observe or maybe warn about vague, then sir,
very simplistic the standards themselves regrouped,
Do you have a hundred called centuries and
as we said it's all about the entire
rotation. So let's talk about some of these specific prophecies that Nostradamus.
Should we go ahead and jump right in to the or September eleventh two thousand one attacks
Why not? Men are not an eight and a half the arts, Canada, ok,
That's where we're going. Let's, let's get in
the english translation that all my frederick here, oh L, apostrophe mackerel.
Her. However, you want to translate our lay methods limit, Frederick get on with it all our area. Volcanic fire from the centre of the earth will
pause trembling around the new city to great rock swimming
war for a long time then
sir, will read in a new river yeah.
Refer side no is a nymph who turned into a fountain her story. So that's one translation
this is the same wine. I found another version of fairly. There were quite a few oh yeah folks, Toby around about. I live in this one as some similar ideas, but it's in the city of God. There will be a great thunder two brothers torn apart by chaos. While the fortress endures, the great leader, will become the third big war, will begin
when the big city is burning, that is an interesting one actually, because I've seen the imagery and their matches up really well with what
he saw in the news and what kind of happened. What I'm saying if the fortune,
humans and fitted, and you can totally box it and if you think wow, this is a big
burly images that he's talking about and like you can connect them with. You know to the twins. The two buildings
fortress gone, which still stands also, the qualification of posting something on the internet is entirely the ability to have an internet connection. Of course, owe him- and I remember this when this was this- was right when everything went down with documents of nationalist reactions from was totally doctored MS made out, but you may remember this: it was Tuesday
birds will fall from the sky on metropolis. The sky will burn at forty five degrees lad.
To fire is the great new city immediately a huge scattered flame leads up within month. Rivers work well with blood. The undead will round the earth for a little time, totally barricaded. Someone just took the flavour of Noster dollars an hour. Maybe a couple:
from one of the quatrains and dump this out and it was making around. I remember seeing this to steal, birds and it didn't, has Steel Sea ice
I think we still birds line, is actually taken from another profit that we're going to speak about a little later can definitely attributed it s, rooms at the time completely bunk and that's yeah. That's another thing:
Nostradamus. Also, I too, we know
that there are some bunk translations. We know that there are people who said just signal
New York and hears what the internet of things and that's where we have knows, you're dead.
Is this guy writing in the fifteen hundred.
Actually, according to the internet, saint stuff, like New York, the eleventh day of the ninth month,
again, not the way any of these were laid out. Ok, I'm gonna play ominously devils advocate here. For a moment,
the design of someone who perhaps can see beyond the veil for a moment in a fleeting glance of something yeah
Imagine that you have no context for what New York City looks like or for what a city.
or a building or anything that you're looking at. It looks like
Imagine you're getting a glimpse of a future sixty hundreds of years from Now- and you
no idea what anything. As you know, the names are, but you see two things that looks similar to a plane for sure attacking. So I mean
it's interesting to me, the imagining
how I would write down on a piece of paper what I was seeing, if I could somehow see their income and potential
a very cool literary device. I can't pick pick it out right now, but I feel like I've seen that before a movie or in like a novel, whether someone has had a prophecy and they describe it in these kind of like
very rudimentary terms, something that will happen in the future, with, like the great
turtle will rise from the sea and Nina things like a worthless. Maybe it's like a war she up or something you know if they cargo courts, then that we ve talked about before yet cargo calliope will recall. Where is it's a term that
be somewhat rider. Tories can be of four people were living
isolated areas in the Pacific Ocean, isolated islands, and they would see cargo dropped and see airplanes for the first time in an servicemen
there's a various wars. There is otherwise, within your lifetimes listener,
there was a act of cargo called that worship Prince Philip and they would build towers.
a radio towers and an attempt to summon these things from the sky again, oh, he is kind of dreamy
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Is he here, however, just the idea that there's nothing out of context, for
for that group of of people who have scenes
that is beyond their understanding? That has done something good for no totally agree. I think that's a great argument. Gliding make it, because we ve heard arguments about that in biblical tax ray. I can't member. If it's, I think it's old testament yea schedule testament. Where is he?
Europe has a vision of what he said
learning charioteers radiator fire like the wheels within wheels, and that description is
clearly someone trying to be very specific about some bizarre spectacle, but maybe not why? Knowing what it is, which has led
your ancient alien people to say that it some sort of visitation, extra terrestrial, but that's a server differently and if it is
it is, but I just have grown vehement us. That's what
cool things. The idea,
the fine ships from indian Tax Ancient nuclear warhead added the Nazis believed there is also interesting to their the way you even sort of divide prophets up into the into two camps. When you have these religious leader,
offered Leonard communicating with said deities that are in charge of whatever faith they represent, and then you have these Nostradamus soothsayer type profits that are more about. Looking at the big picture there on a surly saying they got a message from gathered, a saying they can see. You know beyond and seen the future and their both kind of yelp. Consider
profits where they have their own little game go right, will in the end, in Maastricht, Nostradamus this time it was a past this year, the denial of religion. Technically, it's like this huge crimes, so it ain't. You know it's it's strange. We think about the two, because most of the profits we see have or people believe their profits have some sort of spiritual nature, and sometimes it's I'll say it sometimes: label
They discovered it independently who at the destination way to say it, there's another one, since we started nine eleven, oh yeah, an answer:
As you said, the Nazis did believe perhaps in the ancient nuclear war. Yes, I did know store down. This predict the rise of Hitler and the beginning of world
two in the place very near not far from Venus, the two greatest ones of Asia and Africa, from the Rhine and history, they will be said to have come, cries tears at Malta and the like
who inside his stir, sounds pretty close to have. But I don't think I don't think that's what they're overhead? Ok,
It is a river write. History is a river. The Rhine is a river, they are
in Germany or least on the western sky of the rain. Is there and then the history? I don't know exactly where its latin name filling the lower stretch of the Danube? Ok, ok, I so yet so that that's
here's here, just as show everybody how different these translations can be got the original french which, unlike
butcher, but then someone else translated to remember
I will we just
for no earlier so now says: Beast wild with hunger shall crossed the rivers. Most of the fighting shall be closed by the history
It should result in a great one being dragged in an iron cage, while the German shall be watching over the infants Rhine. What vast
We took a valuable, unfair, didn't yeah yeah it's over. What part of that is fabricated right so
You can read various interpretations of this, especially with no
freedom is mind because there are so many some agent
nations that are people actually
trying to trans literate Tommy. The original is so innocuous death. It's like in a place not have
our from Venus wicked slab was more vague. Can you be in that it gives it gets more specific and they will be said to have come, cries tears at Malta and the luxuriances, it's just so open ended
You can just shoehorn whatever idea you wanted to that. If you do know, is that, will you
things happening. I think it's what's happening, this other translation that you're talking about anything like you say it's, it's Youtube. If you get excited about the idea,
that may be. This guy really did hassling. Your brain starts to make all these leaps in Lille, in the gaps and in a kind of like I was a kid
Mason, biased kind of earlier this. This makes me think about.
So many other things we ve looked at the psycho, chronic studies in the USSR in the aftermath
will work to the various in K, alter type experiments. People tried to contact with IRAN,
STAR Gate with Ngos, one yes, where people were trained
access what they were. Certain was an x
Sensory ability are not here to say that that stuff conclusively doesn't exist there
It is true that governments have spent a lot of money on things that ultimately didn
Oh yeah, that's why we had to do right. Retard rose by weight
the reason why the United States government had to do research into this. This this subject
is because he was being done by the other side and if the other side somehow unlocked psychic powers- or these you know ways to use,
see through buildings and perhaps even moved through them, and we didn't have it
in trouble. If they ve got x men and we don't leave it, ok a while. I get that
Also somewhat disingenuous. Ngos is a bit of a different topic. It's just
ingenuous, at least on the part of some members of the military, the bureaucracy, because clearly its war is good for the winners economy. Right I saw it
no way to rationalize more spending. All watch out the sweet thing I may remember: we live in
Three! Where, mere decades ago, someone said what, if we could make a bomb, there were just turn people gay.
Yeah, whatever happened, why don't you just try that and will spend a couple, spend a couple mill on it and just see if that a real thing, so we should mention, though
one common misinterpretation about Nostradamus? Is that he created all of his work independently? That is not true. He pulled this pretty convincing evidence that he pulled from existing literature of his time histories. Things like that so alive.
this work is referential, but not necessarily referring to feed
sure events its refer.
ring to or allude
into existing works in his time in the fifteen hundred
to the way that she has only
it's the wasteland refer
so heavily in his soul elusive. I, in turn,
of it, how it leans on other existing works. So
Some of these prophecies,
translations.
more amalgamating of other things. You didn't write this all independently and he didn't
the end of the world. The mayan cycle which itself is
based on a mistranslation in twenty twelve. Instead, he said his prophecies extend from now to the year.
Thirty, seven, ninety seven or something like that. There is a long time from now
a really long time from fifteen fifty five, but his major astrological source of the time, richer, Russo. I said that twenty to forty two- maybe a date for the end of the world
where I don't remember the arcane logic, the use and three seven nine seven minus fifteen. Fifty five when he published a book is twenty.
you, forty two, I remain. I was gonna say twenty to forty one, that's probably a better per year!
it just so funny, because when you
It doesn't matter who you are. I don't care how
popular. You are among any circles. If you just throw out a number like that, I don't know who else through our throughout a number for you why I can't. I know this is weird, because I can't tell you much about the person you told me this, but I am convinced by the source.
the world is ending for someone or some group of people like every every day and every year there are between fifty and two hundred apocalyptic groups who believe that this is. It is a big finnish and without without
being disrespectful or dismissing these people's beliefs. I will say that there is something
currently narcissistic and self centered.
Soon that a thing that existed for thousands of years is gonna. Stop that and you showed up just in time like civilization itself right here.
If there's something inherently, not selfish but self important about that, and so far
the one thing that all apocalypse groups have in common is that they have not accurately predicted the end of the world. You know my favorite into the world. Prophecies was there. Are you guys familiar with the church of the sub genius?
here. They celebrate this holiday every year in July of called next day, and initially Ex day was supposed to be. The end of the world. News was to be on July. Third. Ninety ninety eight
at which point them an alien race, known as the access or men from planet x, would come to earth and destroy the world and rid the world of the quote normally or pinks or globes, which are the non sub Junior that inhabit the planet.
but the EU has, as you haven't time time happens, everyone makes mistakes. The creators of the tragedy of genius
The calendar date wrong and apparently looked at upside down there actually going to take place in the year. Eighty sixty one
her whole, so that gives them play a padding, really had never Urbino their parties up until the new into the.
What kinds of my love, I love some genius because it takes all the wind out of these kind of into the world death conspiracy. Is you know in the third like very tongue in cheek and a big man will yet I again? Yes, no there ever fascination with alternative religious beliefs. I guess is most fair way to dance around the word cults.
But the thing it fascinates me is that there are so many instances where someone predicts the end of the world in apocalypse. Urban apocalyptic event does not necessarily mean the end of the world. We use it away in English
The what it means at heart is the revealing of hidden things so
that revelation right. The end of the world it's become conflated are synonymous a modern speech, but a lot of these groups are able to.
More in terms of a great spirit revelation and when they are wrong. If the date comes in it passes, then there's a wealth of on
a plethora than I am using. That word correctly of reasons that there, the thing will have to be adjusted recruiters to the subjects,
church move in a given themselves, a little bit of a buffer. I hope they make it to the eight hundred eight thousands, ok,
next is someone who might be a deep cuts for
some listeners is actually might be new to some of you out there. We hope you enjoy it. Let's talk about the news to damage of the Balkans as she is sometimes called: you're gonna have fair name. Bob
like body yoga, the russian which folklore but Papa longer born.
Then Julia Pandemic dimly over in January nineteen eleven. She was
in she's born in what was then
as the Ottoman Empire and when she was born she's completely normal until the age of twelve, the other end
allegedly or at least according to stories she was blinded during
storm that occurred when she was only twelve years old
what did the same. Blinded by the light, I know that's messed up.
And don't do our best
Yes, oh, she was missing for a number of days. At some point, she had that kind of mystical thing where she's disappeared, but now she
returns with her eyes, were when she returned sealed, shut and her family couldn't afford to get them fix, couldn't take it to the Doktor Leslie outlets in the dock.
so she was going to be blind for the rest of her life, but yeah
He was going to have that since replace lease according to her and her supporters. She claims should begin having visions during the first few days of her disappearance and that's a super common trope in nearly stork. All accounts of profits are symbols right, leg, new and as a thing I mean the blind profit. Yes,
in mythology and merger win or lose urine hilly areas.
We're leaving
being seen for a period of time than returning, and then this completely changed new thing and I go back to just Campbell right. I was saying that that the period of disappearances when it has some significant events took place and
change the precipice perspective, wherever I would recommend hero with a thousand faces, are he rose journey by Joseph camels once more that this
happened in real life. She believed that, because of her visions in request, she could predict the future and he'll people are using other worldly powers and scientists and government officials, not to mention the wealthy came to visit her for advice. According to the story,
She served as an adviser to the Bulgarian Communist Party leaders, who had asked her questions to advance their cause right in the great in the great game of geopolitical,
intrigue, she was kept under surveillance by the secret police and politicians and businessmen would come meet with her
and there, I can believe the earlier secret police. What about those conversations? Yet, even if the evil
of what she's telling them is completely untrue. Just have
those individuals any room speaking here. We're we're gonna bug that, if we're in charge
let's talk about her specific prophecies right according to the independent she allegedly predicted the forty. Fourth? U S, president would be black. Also, the last president witches
predictions of who will be the last president or distress they common.
take a lot of them are made up of people on the internet as well. She is thought to predict
Nine eleven- and we have the quote from the guardian here- and here's that image that seem to crop up in their wisdom attributed to natural
with horror, horror. The american brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wool:
we'll be howling and a bush and innocent blood will gush so clearly that steel birds, imagery, was pilfered from this, and we have connected with some extra dogmas lines and then you know phone out there on the internet now ones.
why one study that she was eighty percent accurate. I have a heart,
I believe in this this came from Doktor Georgie Laws. Enough was director of the institute of not making this up, suggest ideology and Paris, psychology in Sofia, Bulgaria, and that he said that I, like that words
stolidly suggest. Allergies sounds very subduing. Yes, it does
There is also the here's. The thing, though this was legitimately said
ready staff members. The bulgarian government was paying for it. They thought that a lot of Bob Van Gogh's predictive abilities,
actually the stuff where she was looking for lost, relatives and friends we're pretty accurate. However, they issue with this, is you can find it in
at the dollar to oppose this online. If anybody wants to check it out what we ve talked before,
Paris, psychology, experiments and how he is
it is too heavy
it is to do something, renders the experiment on sound anyhow, theirs,
so the additional side note that many of the people who are close to bother vanguard during her life claim she never made prophecies attributed to her on the internet as she died in ninety ninety six and she left behind several other alleged predictions for the future. Vice has a good bye, says a good article on it and we can check in with them
maybe toward the close of the show? But let's move on because I can't wait to see what other people say about Bob Ollinger, but we would be remiss if we did not talk about another another profit or seer
that you, ladies and gentlemen. I have asked us to check out for a while now yet and it also getting a little bit closer to the present day, which is kind of cool, so, if somebody that it actually has stuff written down about them, perhaps even books that are published.
English that we will be able to understand readily
also our first english speaker, that's correct. This of this run in that goes to Mr Edgar Casey, Kay,
was born in March of eighteen. Seventy seven and passed away in January of nineteen forty five. He caught up pretty interesting, Alias, I guess you could say which was the sleeping profit because he would go into these trances. These kind of, like Fuchs States, reveries zau when he was diagnosing illnesses or recounting ancient wisdom.
making these different predictions? That vat is fascinated me and a lot of the I would say, pop culture. References to
a lot of things where someone will go into a trance and then make a prediction like this? I feel like its especially in film goes.
back to maybe being influenced by this guy. Also, some of the theatrical over you know communicating with Spain.
It's in the same answer somewhere in other medium, would sort of rock back and forth and enter into this sad, this chance like state and then the inhabited by the Spirit of a.
love one in an area. As we know, a lot of that was largely theater, but definitely was a very impact for presentation for folks of the time pressure,
And, as we said before, this guy is very well documented. Perhaps the most well documented profit that we know of and
We know a lot about his history growing up in an early life right, yeah you can, you can find various different accounts will read one from someone who will read one from EDGAR Casey on its lances, which were which contains several statements about his beliefs regarding Atlantis, delivered under his trance edited by the director of the Association for Research and enlightenment, Shu Lien, Casey descendants. I am also talk about the year
Are you a little bit too? So the thing is that he was supposed to be in his waking life, pretty good husband, solid Father, taught Sunday school, pretty nice guy gifted protect professional photographer, but when he was in a trance, he became a medical diagnostician profit, a proponent of biblical. More so even as a child in Kentucky is parents said that he displayed powers of perception that seem to go beyond the five senses. At the age of six or seven, he told his parents. He was able to see and talked of visions, sometimes of dead relatives. One of my favorite stories about him. His parents said that,
probably a nobler active imagination, but one of my favorites ways is that apparently he was able to learn by some sort of strange osmosis, a sleeping with his head on school books. He got a photographic memory which helped in advance rapidly in school. This faded,
ass. He grew older and was only able to compete, complete seventh grade,
for my own nation. I so he started to develop a paralysis of the throat muscles in eighteen. Ninety eight, who is in his early twenties doctors, were unable to find a cause for this condition, so they tried everything need they tried hypnosis too and then in desperation, Casey apparently asked one of his friends to help him achieved the same kind of transit used when he was sleeping on school books as a kid and then all of a sudden he did the old diagnosed thyself, physician kind of thing and he got medicine and recommended
therapy that restored his voice. Shortish Throat group a doctor's came by, and so I ask him to diagnose your own patients. One thing leads to a not la really and yet, and he becomes the sleeping profit so when he dies and forty five in Virginia, he left well over fourteen thousand documented stenographic records of the statements he had given for more than eight that's
different people over forty three years. She so we got a lot of stuff on it. So,
the Association for research and enlightenment, which we mentioned, existed
it is a non profit organisations founded to facilitate the study of his work. You can see their website right now. It's EGRET Casey, DOT. Org I mean if you're, driving or something don't don't do a while you're driving and see. Perhaps he has a prediction that applies to you,
or does he? Because here is the thing about EGRET Casey? Ladies and gentlemen, here because he is
oh well documented
We also know a lot of what he got wrong, not interpretive Lee Wrong but factually in accurate,
one example. The Billy sticks out is that he said
down man was real: the pill down a famous hopes where the jaw of Reindeer Tang was combined with the cranium.
The modern few men to argue that there was this evidence of human evolution
in in the area of its discovery, which is spelt out in EAST Sussex, so Agrican,
See, however, said that this was evidence of any land in a race or in a someone who survived in its latest was from it. Lances colonizers specifically, would travel to Britain and a nineteen fifty three a little bit after cases death. It was exposed as a hoax. I he read through them
Bible entirely each year, and this helped him reconcile his christian beliefs with the metaphysical stuff. He he said what is in a trance he's often called
when the founders of the new age movement over critics,
that he critic say that he cribbed some stuff from
authors like crawl Young, were Elinor Lebowski from the Theosophy movement. I don't know if that's necessarily plagiarism know what that is
you'll trance people might just be free. Associating not I mean we ve all been in that area between sleeper wakefulness, Wesley prowess
sectors and we're thought spring unbidden,
You know your singing a song, you love and realize it doesn't exist in the real world, and that your mind is: writing it for you.
pretty sure. I'm therein urban, so
most weirder beliefs about Atlantis come from case. So when you hear people talk about a fantastically advance,
civilization brought to ruin by meddling with strange powers? Some of that comes from Casey.
And if you would like to hear more about EDGAR Casey, you can again check other website EGRET Casey DOT. Org! Are you? U can also what's the hour, there are tons of books,
tunnel books by recommend looking at stuff from that societies, at least although they
definitely are starting with the appeal,
in that the guy is correct. There
Also using the actual translation sea were running over Nostradamus thing, where someone made it up I'll, give em accents so start with ie
materials from your Casey DOT, Org and then maybe move on to another spot, gets more books and stuff like that. If you really want to deep delve deep into this, do you like the head her head her on the pages? Edgar cases are a r e which stands for association for research and enlightened acted since nine to thirty one. Did you have a health risk
did you mention that already gives you can go, you can go there. I mean if you really want to get into this had on out. Where is that, whereas the main the main office looks like it's in Virginia Beach, ranging meets Virginia right, that's where he was living at the time and visible and suddenly I met them, see with them, but the scene is like it be nice to be nice to visit that there's no prediction that he got rolling. It seems that the? U S were discovered atlantean deathray, as in a death rate from the last civilization of Atlantis in nineteen. Fifty eight got abroad, or did he then?
he beat me too, the punch we don't know at this point, perhaps some time we will in the future. We do want to end, however, on something a little bit difference. We're talking about secret. So, let's not just talk about another secret, let's talk about three at once, and that would be the three secrets of the team of this
little bit different because it doesn't involve. It does involve lifelong
rear sort of profits like exit
is he knows you're down Bob Ollinger spent decades making predictions. This, however, is this, however, is something different that involves apparently divine direct, divine intervention.
So these three young portuguese shepherds, we see a Santos primarily and then her cousins are visited by an apparition,
of the virgin Mary several times, starting on the thirteenth of May nineteen. Seventeen they said there,
visited six times between May in October. That year now
This operation is popularly known as our lady of Fitzhugh mom. She entrusted the children with three secrets and July nineteen. Seven
two, these secrets revealed in eighteen, forty one at the request of a bishop named Jose Alvarez, Korea, the silver and he went to assist with the public.
Son of a new edition of a book, I'm one of their cousins. As for the third secret,
sure borders or to put it in writing, we see a road it down, sealed it in a novel up, there wasn't sought supposed to be opened. Intimating sixty when it would quote appear clearer. The text of this third secret was officially released by Pope John Paul, the second in two thousand or or was it because some people claim that it was not the end.
Higher secret and who will never know for sure, because only a few people were actually in control that information right.
Yeah reminds me of when we did some of the Madrid summit.
Earlier episodes aren t the restricted meeting
Bill in the Vatican archives is the secret archives of vat.
Real but they're using secret in a different way. They still tricky, though, because you can request something:
You know exactly what you request yet I feel like someone should make a list of all possible things that could ever exist and then just submit them daily to the Vatican. Were one of the secrets, I s great question: ok,
The first secret is a vision of hell. I've got someone attacks,
our lady showed us a great sea of fire which seem to be under the earth plunged in his firewood demon.
In souls in human form, like transparent, burning
where's, all blackened burnished bronze. They goes on. The second was
the World WAR, one would end along with a prediction of another,
war during the reign of Pope, pious,
and then that would happen
If Russia did not convert to Catholicism
yes, a one is a vision of how one is about coming,
as for Russia, and then the third one though the third one at least the way it was published was that there would be an assassination attempt on Pope John Paul, the second and that's the crazy thing there was now. So the thing is that they are actually wasn't assassination attempts.
Pope John Paul, which occurred on the thirteenth of May in nineteen eighty one, you can see a video of that if you wish
his head on over to Youtube and people. I've thought about this back and forth knew that
it is actually a profit,
or is it just something that would have because the Pope is up there with the? U S, president or other heads of state who would
much more likely than the average person to have an assassination attempt at her grabs, even higher because of the victory of the union have between religions. So, in June, two thousand, the Vatican finally released this this secret a but that there have been several other people who were involved with it. Who said that that that the hand written for page text is not the real secret or not. The full thing now believe that the third secret is actually composed of two tat. One of those is therefore page published version, the others a single page letter containing that the real truth and their italian journalist. I can't
he also she who say that they have proof that there is a second secret or, in his ear, to summon approved quickly. Lucy S Hunter says she wrote the message in the form assigned letter to the bishop. The text is supposed to contain words attributed to the virgin Mary, which the published one doesn't really are the full secret bishops working with Papayas Pope John Paul II,
all commented that the text was written on one sheet of paper, not for and the full secret. According these people contains information about the apocalypse, a great upon the sea, satanic infiltration,
of the catholic church? Who and then you it here. I remember a couple years ago. You heard a lot about oh gosh,
What is the name of the Pope that is prior to
one we currently have in then after Pope John Paul. Second, those Ratzinger harassing. Ok, that I remember hearing lots and lots of people talking about right
They are being this version of these prophecies where he had infiltrated and his group had infiltrated and their evil plus a thing about prophecies him in it so easy to let your imagination run wild and use it to confirm something. You already believe in our like this Pope feels like it outside airs ray and to be totally to be truly fair. Here, one of the people who served as Vatican Secretary of State until two thousand thirteen, a cardinal Bertone, I wrote a book called the last secret of the team.
and publishing italian english- and it has an interview that touches on this, where I, the the journalists are journalists named Giuseppe Carly is interviewing, is interviewing the cardinal and he says well what about this
rumour that you're concealing a one page text of the third secret that predicts Rome will lose the faith and become the throne of the Anti Christ
cardinal? I just read this even bear the Cardinal says: that's absolutely crazy! Are you claiming that the prophecy of fatigue is about the past? The c of the church of Rome
team as prediction of rooms, transformation into the throne of the anti crisis, despite the love
our lady capitalize, our lady, if it has for the Pope and the Pope for our lady anyone write books, can baseline conspiracy theories.
Unbiased interpretations. Anyone can take sentences out of context and present them is clues to some suppose, a plot to avoid divulging the truth and transmitted.
The code that only the initiate can understand. No, the whole theory you allude to his fabricated and this supposedly factual account.
Actually, the sort of device the masons used to invent to discredit the church. I'm surprised
the journalists, writers who claim to be catholic, let themselves be taken in strong words really.
Strong words sounds like somebody idle.
they're my brain below boy, this gas as easy
That's.
He might also just be irritated with having heard that right, I mean
I can imagine how you're dating thou be, where the same time to fight back that hard. Well, that's also
that's where we're ending just because this is it
thing where it's not. As far as the catholic church is concerned,
This is not a matter of interpretation. This is a true for telling of an event before it occurred and the other three examples.
Casey, Barber, Bangor and Nostradamus
all a little bit more money.
Well, we didn't get everything, but there are so many profits are now, but it sure isn't it
to have these prophecies like officially sanctioned by such a new. Now an important body, the Holy Roman, get church.
Dense their lotta there, a lot of interesting things that we can talk about regarding the power structure of the catholic Church, not the faith or religion and anyway we discuss it a bit in the past, but this
some fascinating things or think we got into a mere tying our possessions.
There are just some of them all things that still exist now, when the catholic Church are you referring to the official exercise in him? Yes, yes, that is, that is a true and fascinating thing out. We would like your help votes. Do you have any profit that you would like us to look into in the future or prophecies because will tell you right now, one thing in our
Sperience that occurred was that it was surprisingly difficult to find some of the actual. Like the word
Our summer coworkers, we call the actual facts. Translations, I an end to separate the chaff from the wheat. You know the internet echo chamber, but we would like to hear some more people that we should check out in I gotta ass. I get asked you guys. I know that we went on his intentions and discovered some future episodes we could cover. But what do you think about upcoming prophecies and what it
What do you think we ve talked about this before? Do you think that software and big data will eventually be able to do what human beings have been trying to do predict disasters and change?
The big global changes like that. I with I think so. I think we're gonna get darn close, I mean I'm sure they're books
I work at it. Heavy Nazism and my hope, professors actually area. Oh there, they a guy who's, make the huge
our idea is simulation as super cool, not dimension things like predicting trends in commerce in the world, but that's true.
So how do we get him on this her? Well, if you know how to do this, give us her right, isn't it
I will tell you how to do that in a minute home. It's legal joke about time, travelling time, traveller club meet here two days ago.
We meet every every Wednesday or Thursday here so come join us in the in the booth. We will allow you to beyond here every area,
We regard oh man. What are we gonna do if somebody per sin and dark brown style and claims to have travelled through time would have a prediction that future I would hear them out excellently had all see the harm. I would give John Theatre my seat.
We'll give him you see, we can just haven't pull up another slowly. I just amen you ownair, I'm gonna stay out here there are theirs.
Chairs and switching- I don't want any ever Leisure ILO time radiation gunwale. I'm scared of that stuff well, will will table that for future discussion
barring any unexpected time travellers arriving it's almost time for us to head out. You guys have any message for the new year.
Why? Just want to say, we all didn't die in September of twenty fifteen of there were a lot of people in predictions being made
something crazy happening at that time. In the nothing happened, that's good for maybe we did die and now we're just like on the last island
Ah, how could you tell that's gonna call this the afterlife I gotta say on an amendment to the text was about. Besides, that is either she may be. We ve always been making this part cast and we will always be made in this castle flat circle bro.
What are you know how they are apparently sweaty their black eyed peason collar greens and using a financial Luxor Romania that again
mainly. I know it's been a good year still fighting the sir with Christmas cried here, so
I hope that in the new year that I dont have a cold I have sought to men.
The second one way, friends recently and she said that people were not suppose the lobster or chicken and the new year, because something about like chickens walking how the both animals moved backwards or something
not sure and inserted up, but they also, I have failed, often to eat the collar greens and black eye peace for a friend of mine, a suggested ends of no use just do it.
May I once again they, I wonder,
southern thing rank happen. John, they happen giant.
You ve been saying my family. We have to eat a certain number of grapes. Right
there's a lot of Santa Maria stuff? When I have to do that's true,
So there we are guys are we hope that you have adventures in the new year's? If you are making resolutions, keep in mind that you are statistically more likely to keep a resolution, if you make it almost any other month,
your birthday is really good for resolutions January out of all twelve months is the worst month to attempt a resolution or don't.
hell anybody, but you
or diary or yourself for you whatever it is that you used to write down your resolution, don't tell a single human being on maker.
solution to start doing something in February are now doing that. You're wearing give yourself some Britain alike, that, unlike the third February third,
Thirdly, had at one day at the first, the second today's or each of which we are going to head out. If you would like to hear our pie cast about predicting the future,
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