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we're gonna we're going to keep it brief. But if you wrote to us, I keep writing in horror. We shouting out today the first one Jimmy James Kramer. He wrote to us with a really cool story. Well, it disturbed story about these specific and the that maybe leading to supervise infection because they're very difficult to clean, apparently and a scopes, specifically things that lets say: enter orifices, order to check out, going on inside of them in the human body and the the problem with these particulars, because what once it goes in there and it gets the eagle eyed other bacteria that might be living inside of one human, then you'd. Get out, remove it tried to sterilize it as much as possible. But perhaps there are a couple places within the scope of small nooks and crannies. They can't be cleaned well enough to be completely sterile just a little scary and I think the World CUP

recalls, at least according to drug watch, dot com, and I cannot, I don't know, a reputable this site is unfortunately, but the thing that he did send us is pre creepy, so thanks Jimmy, so is a nooks and crannies that metric system or something I reckon up ass, much who's next well, now we have a delicious shout to Gustaf one Essen from Sweden with love. He suggested doing episode on the ivy affair. I be was a secret swedish intelligence agency. That is a mouthful that work with the CIA and the Israel Security Agency Oh Gustaf on Essen. Consider yourself out shouted and was shouted out at last. One for to day goes to link Maybe mispronouncing your name Lynn! Am I a oh there Twitter, who said and I quote, I can see

So could I please have a shout out for good luck. You can really help on college midterms. So Lynn, we wish you the best of luck on your midterms obese studies go well. Absolutely. I think we ve been there. I have enough. Books shut out? Real quick. Will you anastasia me? I'm sorry, I know just continue talk to Berlin, but you know it's cool. No! No! No! I didn't know. If you have something substantial to say. I never have Ok, guys guys you talk about my man like guys, we live. Ok. What is it? You know? I just my dear friend Lee Albert Lee, Landers of Augusta, Georgia, town, just a new text that said quote: shoutout corners produce and he was seeing my off the cuff first, corner theme. We have now do you know cannon trend here, and so you know he asked if I would give him a shadow because, as the first episode ever listened to and so Lee shot out to you

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No, you are on a bit of an adventure and we couldn't really talk about it. It was a little secret, a secret mission. There was a bit of a secret mission, but the cat now out of the bag, or, should I say, the clytie, the cliff is out of the bag badger. Found now listeners. I'm refer to the beloved, my a soft widgets Pre, widget precursor to the wedding earlier here they were trying to create around lie. Right has a name for it. Now that I came member of that type of digital assistant, what I'm getting at is guys. Over the weekend. I, a last minute shrift to New York with Josh and shock from our brother part. Castor sister by gas, will be gender about this. Here. Posters, your podcast gas, that's good stuff, you should know too,

interview. One Mr Bill Gates, creator of the Caribbean and also always clearly Microsoft. The bill Melinda gates ashes eyes open about being one of the most wealthy men alive. In the free world, but yeah, we talked him about term renewable energy. He launched a really big renewable energy initiative and all that was embargo we could to fancy her town talk to a man and then all that stuff, the news, what I think, a sort of a little bit of a bummer. I think His folks is at the core that you made about. The apple should crack that phone.

For the same Bernier. Shooter has overshadowed largely the least up that he was really trying to promote those who say we ever sustainable is pushing for which I think is a sham. No, you said he was a cool guy though he was Super Goody was children and it was really surprised that there were so few handlers and persecution and it was very low key how they give cyclone, certainly out for sure without knows about security public, although there was none

we can always what I mean. I get a pat downtime, no pat down didn't around. Did you request when I got there are really cause, I'm the little Vassili about that kind of stuff and, as one make sure the wifi was fastened us that I can upload the Father could easily faster turn around for aid for the recording it was for the episodes came out yesterday and the interview took place on Monday, so I uploaded them and our dear friend Jerry, who is the producer sufficient? I received the files and edited the interviewing the episode in them. We made the publisher deadline, which was yesterday morning, yet they turn around and leaves a German. You can check out that episode. On Itunes sticker. Wherever you like to listen to a pie cast and you can hear bodies, CAN Josh they chopping up would do how will you do that

Because you were in the same room with bill gates, and I don't know exactly how the degrees of separation work necessarily because I think they originally. You had to send a letter. I guess to someone that you knew when you are going to establish the six degrees, but that connects you up to some fairy powers. People not that he isn't prevalent, most valuable owes its like the cabin bacon game yeah and I'm scared. One thing that Josh commented on his bill was drinking, a diet, coke and he left behind, and we could have taken an harvested I don't know how much is DNA. We get not I've tried, but from someone's, not all the way consumes again? I mean it there's a man. Are you live in every heart laughing at Let's see if, let's see if we keep our one, but let's also move on this week,

are covering an update series on the flat surf theory our video for this is going to come out, probably round Sunday night, maybe Monday and war. We do in the video is walk through some. The recent ideas from the long standing misconceptions and The reason we wanted to do an update is pretty pretty important. Right met, yeah we ok so a long time ago, take take yourselves back now a few years to two yes ban, because we find ourselves here at how stuff works and stuff they don't want you to know intertwined into. Perhaps the story of the modern flatter theory simply be we you and I specifically produced a video back in two thousand and nine, which then got on Youtube in two thousand ten about the theory,

he's behind the flag earth in the flutter of society and it was then posted on various forums around the internet. There's one in regular on the flat earth society dot org. I believe our gentlemen Names Tom Bishop wrote that specifically quote Mr Wurtz, dot com endorses flat earth theory unquote and it It became a thing that perhaps our video is being used to promote the flatter theory, which is an interesting idea, because if you, the video right. That is clearly not occurring within. It means the same formulae you guys apply to any video you make where you take an idea. You talk its backgrounds, and you described the people that espouses said idea, but that is not you said espouses in that's the grieving.

A foreign, because if you scroll alone it further down the line, I watch the video gathers ITALY there at least three people who are commenting endorses a really strong word, or maybe you didn't watch the whole video. AIDS, funny there even using the here are the facts and here's where it gets crazy lines in their commenting back and forth. So it was quite amusing. I think of them where were you had law, would be how stuff works makes video about flatter. You sure, but this is also a surprising thing, as you may have heard, recent months that the concept of a flat earth, which is a very ancient concept I gained national media attention and more people are talking about it on Twitter, on Facebook, on Tumblr, probably on Snapchat, I dont thinking

It compete with some of the other pictures, unsnapped chap, there's, probably few things. So while we're there back in two thousand and two thousand nine, let's not sought, there was travel further back in time to the iron age. Really do ok here, are also listeners. Imagine that are living in the iron age, an amount. You're, an average person pretty successful in your community by standards. The time now, you're not extraordinarily, can successful like a warlord or religious vigour or a blacksmith. You're over well meanly likely to be a farmer and you measure days not necessarily in hours but in terms of the world's natural rhythm day tonight, the position of the sun phase.

The moon winter to spring and back again, and you do not travel widely, because this would make it difficult to take care of the vital crops upon which you and your family depend not to mention it would take a long time to get very far at all right, that's exactly right eye and there's act. I also have a video about how long it will take to walk around the world. Yes for brain stuff, and even today, very, very difficult and pretty dangerous, so forget in the iron age and you let's see your content. Despite the high rates of child mortality, you and your partner of hasn't kids in their farming to- and you know you you feel like life- is good until imagine one day a stranger comes here community. This is a person so different that first, you think maybe they're not minute all wrapped her some sort of divine creature, an angel, a demon, this creature turns out,

be a time traveler from twenties, team example, specifically Matt Frederick, It tells you that the world, beyond your flat, plain and crops and adjacent villages, extends beyond the horizon farther further. But I Philosophical, then you might imagine- and if you start working today, says the time travelling, Matt, Frederick and you always head west- you, end up, not off of the earth, but back here in this house spot. You are standing bodyguard course, wash and why is that? You asked and the time travellers says, because of course, the earth is round now you forget the time travellers use you don't have to do a voice, because the war is round now you might have leave the Skype first and even if you did

year. Community might kill him anyway, because that's how people are wage here's the other thing you're going to need a swimsuit, because there will be some swimming involved. However, you can do this its yet. So it's the end the world, or at least the end of the edge of the world as we know it. So, let's our ancient civilizations. It is true that in the iron age, people to believe that the earth was flat Numerous ancient civilizations did think that re all over the world and include if India, before the Gupta period, Greece up to the classical period parts of China Native American cultures banned on and on people I also believe earth was covered by a solid dog called the firmament which the term you see in the Bible. Re like if you got high enough into the Heavens

eventually hit. It also. There is almost a glass ceiling, of sorts the way it's described. Sometimes I see it as a snow globe, almost just above there's a picture on the house of works website that can I give you a great idea and that is on the article how creationism works in issues. It's cool illustration of the concept of the exact in most of China pretty much accepted the idea of a flatter earth until apparently eating missionaries in the seventeenth century, who were like guys. We're gonna blow your minds. The double checked with myself justice, one to put this out there at the Bible, does mention the firmament seventeen times when it actually is referring to a expanse beyond the sky so the expense of the Heavens above the earth. I see. Ok,

miss Worthington had the girl yeah. If you think about it, it will find out more about the two. So there are some miss. We need a biased about belief in flatter in the ancient world. I will talk about where this, argument for a spiritual world came from, but first one one of the biggest miss, ladies and gentlemen, if you are already listening to the show that we imagine that you know this is a fact, but just in case you are still situation where your history, teachers are misleading. You probably with the bad The intentions- let's Get it all away now Crystal ball alone, street name. Christopher Columbus was a gigantic. Jerk is a monster. You lake. The noise- if the noise was a genocidal slaver at this a deep My friend has a deep kite yeah. I wages. I I was thinking about the new age has remembered annoyed video game. I was second genesis:

I waited on a different council Also, the noise was big dominoes, we're gonna know. Maybe a better thing would be. She was the Martin Skelly of his day is a better lover: yeah, ok, but this all the terrible things he did all the more I'm serious atrocities see committed or helps commit. She was not big man. He was not like that Alice crayon in a box. He like most of the people at the time, knew the earth was round. It was common knowledge. He did prove it. She would anything? The big argument was about how big or small the earth I was not about the shape, it sure sure seized me if anyone was gonna know first that the earth was round. Would be somebody and they nautical profession. You know my girl, captain someone spend time on the sea right

could see the actual curvature also was a big thing, a bigger superstition, Norma. Seafaring types was that you would reach the end of year, afraid and their fall off and there were like there be monsters, gonna, certain terra incognita, it's true, but so, Why did this myth come about where there's a guy named James Handsome who wrote a peaceful science versus Christianity, and we have a call for you directly from him. The myth People in the middle ages thought the earth is flat appears to date from the seventeenth century is the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching, but it gained and see in the nineteenth century, thanks to an accurate history such as John, William Drapers history of the conflict between religion and science. In eighteen, seventy four and Andrew Dixon Whites, a history of the warfare of science with the and Christendom in eighteen. Ninety six, eight

and agnostics, championed the conflict thesis of their own purposes. But his research gradually demonstrated the draper and white had profit more fantasies, in fact, in their efforts to prove that science and religion are locked in internal conflict. Today's absurd is brought to bear began for businesses around the world. Today is an a restart. It's a rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM retailers are keeping theirs up as millions of orders move on mine Hunters are using IBM Watson to manage an influx of customer questions with a sigh and solution. Built on the IBM cloud are helping. Doctors care for patients remotely today were rethinking how business moved forward. So, let's get to it, let's put smart towards is it IBM, dot com, slash smart to learn more though, were apart. These days was sharing so Geico we'd like say thanks. Thanks for sharing your savage dance moves sharing your d. I why haircut fails?

thanks for sharing your inner lips ink star now, it's our turn to share with the Geico, give back ten percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers, because we committed for the longer the fifteen for credit last, your full policy to visit guy. Outcomes, less give back for more info and eligibility the myth, People in the middle ages thought the earth was flat appears to date from the seventeenth century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching, but it gained currency in the nineteenth century, thanks to inaccurate history, such as John, William Drapers history of the council. Between religion and science and Andrew Dixon whites three of the warfare of science, with the ology in Christendom, atheist, standing, Gnostics, championed the conflict visas for their own purposes, but his formal research gradually demonstrated the draper and White had propagated. More fantasy than fiction in their efforts to prove that science and religion are locked in eternal conflict. So

Essentially, what happened here? The reason that we have this long standing stereotypes about people, the ancient world is because two guys with, gender you'll something to make it look as though science and faith are always at loggerheads and you ve got even further. It was a religious insult. The proud in channeled against the Catholics, old thinking, so much talk about the truth. Concept of a round earth date, all the way back to at least the thigh this and Aristotle. So you could argue that in the eighth century BC the biblical writer Isaiah alluded to a spherical earth in Isaiah, forty twenty, to quote, he sits in throw upon a circle of the earth, then

the third century Bc Helena. Stick astronomy now established without a doubt, factual proof of earth spherical shape. I saw this comes to us from astronomy, and we talked about whether this came from people are not equal profession but keep in mind at this point in time. Drawn hammers and those Maritime occupations were at were injured, and in terms of skills that slew him in astronomy rather than nautical mapping and making the charts is essentially functional. Astronomy means using the stars to you know plot your course. Did you know that? Did you hear the impure story about this recently, where the Navy is going back to teaching teaching the student like where I'm actually well we'll talk about it. Or by their teaching people how to use the stars and navigate again right yeah. Then That's it that's a valuable still once once you know

You can keep an eye on it, because it's true that constellations do change over time, but the scale that change is so vast in comparison to what human lives that you can print come on. These is affixed boy. I think it's great. I think they never should have stopped teaching right from there The belief in a round earth spread gradually throughout the world. People knew yeah, but then is it really a sphere? yeah. I guess you re. I guess it's better to call it an ellipse joy, but still we knew he has come to squash dream. In so case, closed right. Or is it here's, where it gets crazy, the flat earth theory Kate. Yes, we said earlier: mesopotamian cultures believed the earth. Was this a we have had as a species, so many different shapes for earth, but I've

leave your standing one spot. You see a mountain, you see an ocean, I was there Tom, looked around from where I stood and saw three mountains and a wood it it's a great poet by the the ideas that we were limited for a long time, because, the signs that could prove to us, the police the sun in them, and the moon and earth in the shape of those things, were difficult to interpret. So, of course, we thought it was flat for a while but more, let alone what is the sun? What is the moon? You know what is what are these things made of one of my seeing far out there? We know that something is there, but what is it? Is it angry at me, honey, that's the kind of well people lived in so gradual. As the at least in the west. The realisation of earth is a lip soy spread across the world. Some people, even today, patently by sir: that's a bunch of whores! Why?

and so So, let's look at some of the modern day. Some igniting he six Samuel, Sheldon founded a society that had a theory about the shape of the earth, namely, is flat or a pancake an end. He based the these ideas. Just on walking around observing things. No hey are you will everything's looking pretty flat around here common sense yeah personal observation, yeah, there's a headache method, idea that we can only encounters through our own senses. Yes, my might this one focal point of consciousness understands it in this way and he called Saint The governance for a globe shaped earth dog man. So he said scientists were making this claim without adequate ever this basically were following a party lie right, which is very interesting right when it. When you hear thinking about some of these criticisms that came from the

religious angles: bang when the Protestants were criticising catholic beliefs is just since then throw it right on the sites, but this was also enacting. The link, this nineteen fifty say also keep in mind. Sheldon lived long enough to see pictures of earth taken by satellites, and what do you do then? Well, course he claimed that they were a fake. I may, of course they were fake right. He and the members of a society continues to support the idea that earth is flat and the people who disagreed are just part of a vast conspiracy to hide the truth about earths inherent flat. Right everybody's in the pockets of big Globe manufacturers. I saw Shelton passed away in Jeanne, seventy one guiding Charles Johnson took over leadership and lead the society until two thousand and one critics

flatter society say that its members just deny any evidence that conflict with their worldview and do you members were in our society and genuinely believe this. Would probably say the same thing about their opponents. That's how these kind of arguments typically go sound like a bunch a contrary, and if he asks me yes, yes, I know who is it wait? Did you guys just both agree now, her by the way. Right now, gentlemen, named Daniel Shelton is running the flat earth society. Hebrew back up in two thousand nine, and if you go too far, Society not work. You can find the forms that are active there. I think in the the guardian article that I read there. He said there are only there. Only few active members around sailor non ironic. Yes, You know this case. Of course, I'm not gonna cast a spur on some way forward

personal beliefs. You know what I mean. I you believe what want. No one should control your mind. However, She was all the way back to ancient Greeks in even that's a little the western centric, because the odds are that there were other ancient civilizations that figure this out before the Greeks justice. Possible and its possible that we would know, because there's a dearth of evidence by they learned by measuring shadow is that's that's a lead them say. Oh, the planet surface must be curbed. Then in the astronomers is no mention figured out. The world was round if you run a business, you have questions right now. So what exactly does the new name me? How can I help my employees feel safe when they come back to the office? I have a small business. How can I get somebody to help me right now? That's why sales force created worked out come to give business the plan to reopen safely and be ready

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listen to Katie's grip on Iheart, radio, app or an apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And then we have to look at the idea of creationism listeners. If you are creation, is that is your belief, some new subscribed to that. Then, of course, I am going to act. I'm not gonna cast aspersion on someone's personal faith, but I'm willing to wager odds are that if you were listening to this show right now or any pike ass, you also know that the earth is round model, Well, look! Ok! So back when the the other Flattereth was more common. When most people in the West, where some form of creation as they believe that the earth was flat was a mobile, Very center of the universe is the mules I on the gray Cosmic Dark Board, and it was

covered by the solid dome like sky and this set firmament that no nation earlier and you see it mentioned in Genesis the sun Stars and moon are embedded in this dome butts that turns out not the case, we ve actually send somebody with actually set some nifty Barton Rockets out into space. We ve had p. In orbit. Had life change, experiences by looking at the earth all at once, allegedly allegedly do you know any astronauts? What is it funny to me that point of logic, and it goes back to how we were discussing. If you can, if you can you something well enough, then perhaps you can be right, even if you are completely wrong. In the argue here here, whether you are the substance of your organism, that's the whole point of debate and make the debate club

Let me Arthur exercises where you just take on a completely absurd position in your job is to defend the victorious here. I if I could ever rebuttal another interesting thing to know about the beliefs of how the Flattereth would function physically is how gravity would work, scenario. So I never really understood it until began researching again and so the idea on the flat plane, as it's moving upwards, so they Plain, is that there is no gravity per se, because there's not one central location as there would be honest vehicle or a planet, to the way the earth is shaped. Whereas point breathing in and spinning to hold it to the surface. In this scenario, the plain is moving upwards at a speed That would, when you up in the air and you come back down the reason It's happening is because the earth is coming up to meet you essentially, which it is interest.

The earth is moving and you are not so it's a force of acceleration. Yes, I see an indian We we see other competing believe suggests. We should talk a little bit about the different concepts of the out outlay or the G8. Geography of the flatter afraid the there's the common belief that the north paused at the very centre which of earth is at the very centre of the years, makes the North pole sacred points raised an important place, and then it of its ringed around the edges of the world are ringed around by what we mistake as the South Pole and really a wall of ice and our colleague Seeger wrote a great peace. In now about this, where he said picture picture the wall the knights watch? But just without you know, trolls first at her old white walkers behind. Oh, yes, yes, yes, there is a matter that you can find

the way the earth looks in the flat earth view and that You superimposed that math in particular with the U N Map. Pretty much the same thing, but when you look at it, it's just a version of April, action from the top down from the nor for them now we also found we also learned about a group of people call GEO, centrist believe that earth may not be flat definitely the centre of everything and it is immobile the sun, rotates, run the earth a twenty four hour period and all other planets rotate around the sun. It it's a complex thing. This is. This is also generally a religious space there. The people guess we call radical Geocentric refer

a religious text alone and reject all modern astronomy, physics and cosmology. Some believe that the or solid dough yeah which takes us too, modern believers list. We received so many. So many questions on Youtube on Facebook and Twitter, we're conspiracy, stuff and all those by the way, if you want to work you oughta, give us a little better. Internet love like covered, subscribe, etc, to hear from you. We read a lot from a b o b until it's a killer, the reason this became a mainstream thing again. Well, nothing started when amiss tequila angel feel, love put her hand all she said in its twenty sixteen, and nobody has been able to prove to me that the earth is round where's. That

but you're in the horizon, hashtag flat earth Prove me wrong thing it This continued said not gonna. Get over this. Why all the buildings New Danny straight out the first was round some. The buildings would have a slight tilt eye and then, if you please, spinning globe how come aeroplanes, who saw land without crashing, because the face of the earth is flat, not a globe. And yeah I know you know I know. What's such a safe pitch forty thing for peace two dogma on some wine, but I Sincere is this. I wonder you have been following tier tequila at all. She has then he's been going down. This interesting little call it a rabbit hole of looking into some of the things that we have looked into in the past and covered in disgust. Seemingly internalizing them. Quite a bit report, perhaps

I know that she are you can't speak? but she seems to be very invested in believing some of these things and taking them at face value and there's another player in the game. Another slept I mention this is an empty that I have quite a high opinion of the wrapper b o b. Yes, yes, sir, and you have actually averse on the right road from the noise not be or be very sorry. I had mentioned there there's a group I really enjoy from Chicago called the anti pop consortium in that line. That's your world how hard you fell off, hoping that the laws of gravity will bring you back to earth. If not o k, your words fallen the air so float away and disappear into a black hole, sign I submit falls off the edge of the planning and into a black hole. Let's that's terrible is a black hole, disturbingly close the earth inheritance what shape it is. Well, ok, so, we'll be began. Also,

tweeting about a flattered. What kind of stuff was he said there was picture that posted- and don't know exactly where it is. I'm assuming its in Atlanta candle light around the mountain dummy fathers what it might be, but I wasn't sure by someone, of a mountain then way in the distance? You can see. I guess the sit like a city with presumably be Atlanta or another small. The verb somewhere in there, and it says the cities in the background or approximately sixty miles apart, where's the curve. Please explain this favorite response was, I dont think he was. Jim saying the earth is flat he's been on planes. I think you were just asking, and so in response, foolery, even in a play, you can't see a curve, the true Fletcher if they were so as to deal then to give us the skinny. So there it's it's in some ways, a man

of perception again, your sort of that's the method that that's as well the who made this map who made this glow Who is telling me what you believe and honour is the level identify with that kind of instinct wholeheartedly however, the problem, is that the science is fairly conclusive and by fair de I am woefully understanding it needed ass ties in the famous science science communicator, I guess, would be the technical term assize popularized, oh went on national television recently to speak about this he also had a twitter conversation with Bio, be about it. It is of a virtual, might drop I heard about that. I had a real one on the nightly ship right, so became it began.

In a matter of public debate, but question posed in the video here. That's that's a state of affairs right now, folks, a question posed in a video coming out. Next week we re stuck with me, and I M still wondering just isn't genuine Israel market employ He was also talking about clone factories, which I think is order of magnitude more plausible that people can for me a surly, more fascinating. Imagining arrogance yeah clone in other parts of the body we need, but this there's a third question here in that's the one that really bothers me and investors. I were when we asked question. We really want to hear from you on this and I want it. You guys want to know that is this The distraction move, what what's not being paid attention to?

I bring up my roommate Frank alive and he tends to think that most public figures- let's say things like this local, Kenya West, for example, surety now tweeting that caused these innocent? I would have Your opinions is not a very popular things say in all caps oh qualifying comments say it Donald Trump, some of the inflammatory things that he says someone my frank, my skeptical remain. Say that all of these people are playing on the public outrage and they are doing what you call garnering earned media, because you know, when you say thing outlandish like that is very divisive people. Going to shine in. One side or the other, and then those people are gonna, go out each other. You now and it generates this whole domino

where you generate this media Minos storm, shall we say and then all of a sudden we are in a room talking about very or about it or looking at comments or reading. Things on bus feed, and now I would never comment. I e that software, I sure, as Hell read the comments it alot very entertaining stuff or chiming in with you know, an opinion that that other all are also either reinforcing supporting. It becomes an echo chamber, but again the thing I ask is yours: no the sounds like become urine, coming down on the side of marketing ploy. I would highlight what I didn't get to yet and were frank, and I sometimes differ. Is I sometimes a combination of both like, I think, there is a certain point where you can take a believe- take an opinion

and kind of bullying it into okay, I'm going to really like ride this crazy train. All the way to Valhalla you know, witness me witness near my twitter melt down shining chrome, yeah, that's in the chrome browser chrome. How? I would positive that this is a reaction to blurring line between what we perceive as reality and what is possible to create with computers By that I mean I'm. You first being is so advanced now video effects or so advanced when you were handed a piece of Heaven physical evidence. That is digital. I think it is now. The right to be sceptical of whatever you ve just been handed but not necessarily to the point of completely disbelieving. Think him like a particularly functional conspiracy, though like if the government and scientists are going

of their way, above and beyond, to fake all this data out. Who were you to what end? Let the most important question, I'm glad you asked it. That's the movement Unquestionably, the party camel hair is if the earth was flat, let it be flat, we'd, fig we'd figure out and make it work right. The vast majority of people are not going to you, it's not going to to the day to day life of the vast majority of people, whether the earth is round or flat. Let's face it, the majority of humanity is not going to attempt to circumnavigate the globe, give me, if you eighty will never be in danger of Oh crap, the ancient between cultures were right and I learned too late now here I am sorry nah off into the universe. Bestow What someone cover this up? That's a big question. How would you be able to keep the secret so effectively considering that nations are almost constantly of war? And and you know not real

representing each other's interest and, more importantly, the ten thousand dollar question yesterday, why? Why would you do this in Africa, he's, ok, because it still just sort of interesting to have secret. I could just think of better things to keep people in the dark about, and this is now one of them do not get me wrong there. There there are quite a few. There are quite a few strange on things bout. The way the world is depicted. No one, no one ever really questions in the. U S! Why the map The globes are oriented towards, with it, with the: U S, dead, centre, right and centre, of the thing we call it South America or something when we know that there is no up and down in space, so it really makes a difference to an alien civilization or to anyone. Outside of this planet, which It is on top, but psychologically that's an important thing. Europe

You know what my favorite depiction of a Flattereth comes from, which you know what is it from Terry projects, disk World is as effective as aid at a desk perched atop the backs is it too. Elephants is our third one than amassing a leader two or three, it would make more sense that it would be three guys you got to economic star shape ass, the air was be logical and then those elephants are standing on the shell of a giant tortoise and all of this whole array is floating in base awesome. I love it this is it a fabulous image? Is it s here? That's that's what I did fighters. That's like this. This makes me think of other. Can spare coral thing, regarding maps, one thing that may interest you, if you haven't checked it out yet listeners police winsome all the time Google MAPS, because Google maps-

nice, with all the countries of the world that it can, if you ask them to hide a specific site. So city, something like that, and yes, there are still quite a few of those things. Go will block it out, for you especially can be Google also shows different borders countries depending upon the origin, the search so You know there are massive ongoing, skirmishes ass say no. We on this. Now I only six edra and Google is actively participating in some very much like a multinational conspiracy, but also they know it seems like the most issues way to avoid getting in trouble with the government is just tell both of them that their rights that that is that some of the that this leads me to think about. But today we ve got our Flattereth update, we'd love to hear from you guys,

mind if I wrap up this discussion with a quote. I would love that, so this is from a song by much under appreciated artist, Thomas Daddy, and it's from his album the flat earth, which I recommend highly examined, listen to it a lot lately and from the title track. Hold me baby, the earth can be any shape. You wanted. Love me darling. Believe me darling any shape at all. Hold me baby dark. Cold or bright, and warm love me darling, long or thin or small. Believe me darling, but at home home maybe hold me b and all I ever had loved me darling. And maybe why for me believe me darling the earth just flat.

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but I'm gonna go and support my brother in law. Who is, I guess, graduating up the next level. Again, I don't know the terminology, it's not that nation or anything he just moving up the ranks in in the school. So I guess it's a great. Like getting your yellow belt, I think, is a law more significant than thereby yes kind of yellow that's the deal, I remember when I got my all about it was ok and ever got the other most humble break her. No ok wait for user at its very cool. So what I'm going to attempt to do on Friday is broadcast live if you know it's not against too many protocols worry if the signal strength is strong enough solely that'll be interesting in some way. Does the AIDS it's in the place of the place where a lot of people go, who end up working in the nuclear sector

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