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from you at those two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn this stuff. They don't want you to know a production of. I hope we Welcome back to the show my name is met. My name is no. They call Ben we are joined, as always with our super producer, Paul mission Control, deck and, most importantly, you or you you are here, and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know. Let's begin today's episode, which gets strange with a question sisters. What's the most vivid dream you ve ever experienced you'll from from it people this

answer will come to your mind immediately in a flash of images, sensations or emotions that are often almost indistinguishable from experiences in the waking world before the door. Recorded history these is called dreams haunted us. They inspired terrified and guided our ancestors and dreams. You everyone knows there often central plot points in ancient myths, who has it of course heard the more modern tales of visionary scientist and inventor an artist, a writer, someone receiving inspiration is suddenly solving a problem in a dream and having a real solution to a problem when they wake up, story. Short dreams have been pivotal throughout the space of human existence and we still don't understand them. We stood on completely get what happening with dreams. We know they tell us about the past. We know they re contextual eyes the present, but could they all

so tell us about the future. Here are the facts, my goodness. You know I what want to lose any time here, but I have every occurring dream when embarrassed stout where I am physically jumping across asked. Goods that are flowing at me, like moving towards me you guys have any extra streams that you ve ever had like that or maybe, or did I have this recurring dream where I'm like I've made it? My band has made it nor like playing before you now the biggest crowd. Ever seen in the entire history of playing music and the songs, unlike dreadfully underprepared, or maybe like I'm in the arcade fire cool eyes squeeze out Tonia songs, I have a dream a lot. What does it mean guys? What does it mean Doyle? Hopefully today find out because we do know what dreams are, or at least we have a pretty, understanding of what they are in a fit. Wait a phrase. It would be something like dreams.

Patterns of information specifically something there? we have taken in his sensory information and The dream occurs when the brain is in a resting state in some using this information, and King, essentially a story or at least patterns from it. If we want to be. Little more blunt about it. Dreams are hallucinations, they take every box for everything. That's ever been described as a hallucination and we ve talked about in previous episodes, but if you described the process of dreaming or even just keeping to some life form that had never encountered it. It sounds so bizarre. We ve all sort of accepted that anywhere from four to eight hours out of every twenty four hours. We will we, will pass out our bodies will be useless go into some weird other world and we gain control of our body again and everybody acts like nothing happened, odd, right

every once in a while. We encounter shadow people there to want to thwart our plans of living those he shadow people always trying to suffocate us in our sleep, asked no fun but we're talking. Specifically today about it. I've been you have this really great analogy. I dreamed is the idea of like your brain kind of as hard drive, sort of like sorting out the bits are like Deef ragging kind of cleaning out the cobwebs, a guest of the day in sub com, Leslie maybe do in some internal problem solving, even if it's not like you, wake up with some kind of aha moment Is some power doing some good for you like in terms of you know, maybe on cluttering your subconscious. Let's say that about the span of it. Yeah yeah before we go to Europe. The kind of thing reach that we have about dreams, because we don't know what they are. Let's go One myth really quick eye. We ve all heard their dreams only occur during a specific phase of sleep,

r M Great banned the the phrase Aryan stands for rapid, I move minutes like the fifth stage of sleep. Where the dreams are supposed to happen. However, we know that multiple studies have shown. Maybe we dream mainly in the aryan phase but We also dream in other phases. We can't be the dream process cannot be quite as easily categorized as we would like, and that's where the theories come in. So one of those leading theories, their loads and loads of great visas are dreams, one theories is just what you described that dream are a part of memory processing, meaning that it helps us consolidate things we ve learned, while all who transferring our short term memory, to our long term memory storage. So, yes, I think the analogy holds that to me. It seems like a good descriptions, the brains, Deef Ragging, the hard drive then again is the brain, the hard drive, what

what's doing. The de ragging is if the software is that the car business this this Very strange very quickly, but yeah it it in that concept. It is, though, all of those connections that your neurons have made, it solidifying them right, They are necessary. This almost like the brain it he is trying to decide. What's important really weird, if we are to think about your brain in its unconscious state. Doing one of the most important things that you can imagine it out, what you actually learned and what you should remember or how you actually feel about things. Sometimes I mean like perhaps my recurring, about being unprepared? Is a signal or a symptom of me feeling overwhelmed at certain times. I don't have this dream, all the time, but when I do have the stream, I think it's a product of me, maybe

in a little under water with work or a little bit like I'm out of my depth or something or like I kind of in a little bit of drift and maybe need a little bit of a Correction, so they can be interesting when you have these are really all. Maybe this is a signal pointing towards something. That's really he'd, observation North, because another thing you could be is really just a problem: solving activity that your brain goes through away to go through those we'll complicated things that you know or more deeply psychological, then then Perhaps you appreciated in the moment into get balance back away or two to maybe put thing in the right perspective for you, but at the end of the day it just chemicals right like it's all, just firing neurons and you know electrical impulses bouncing around beer, but thus lakes that music is only math. For you know what I mean it's a matter of respective I, think I think, that's important theory to bring up as well.

D a bit more. I wouldn't you duck finished, but the theory that wants to remove the concept of consciousness from the equation and says that add dreams are simply the breed responding to then a ray of biochemical changes in electrical pulses that impulses that fire, as you are asleep, whatever you might be, and the dream then is seen as nothing more than a side effect right lay got like sons look pretty, but that wasn't part of some. Grand plan, this argument says it's just a very small side effect of gravity in orbit, so we have these theories and they all the thing that none of them on the out that seem just street wrong. None of them seem demonstrably incorrect. They just seem like the old

at age of the mice describing an elephant right. Well, you know different my see different parts of the elephant. They think it's a bunch of different eggs and stood on one large thing do luck. We know numerous levels. What happens when we dream every dream? You have had some of the same guideposts, we ten. Be the main characters of our own lives and our dreams. Justice in the waking world. You in your dreams. Even when you feel like watching something happen, you're in it, things are happening, you're, taking actions the environment. The reality of the dream is responding to your actions and in the You reverse the dream, those sponsors and those actions makes sense. This is really the case once you wake up in an you think wow my euro, like a great aunt has been done.

For years, she never played the oboe, and I have never been to Portugal they're like Europe, how common I e the chopper pressure in the real world delicious tree, but in a dream, all my teeth fall out and I'm naked and in front of a high school Jim. Of my peers and there are laughing at me. Why are they laughing at me or like in the far side, one of the o, one of the greatest modern american comic strips thee the recurrent fear of showing up to a lecture without ones Doc that's a letter that, even for folks by Bulgaria Day, it is true these things have an internal logic and if you practice dream journaling, which maybe a tremendously useful psychological tool, then you'll notice. When you try to ride out the plot points of your dreams. Is that things change, especially scenery? I didn't

didn't talk about any of my recurrent dreams gives a weird they kind of all occur in this same universe and things that happen in one affects things in the other. Adrian, like Jane Molen, cinematic dream, universe schools, as elsewhere is not enough cause it's ours by what we all but the thing is it makes sense when you're in the moment right like, of course, my he falling out. That is tremendously common. Green troop, especially in the west. Maybe it's maybe has something to do a dentist. Maybe it up they do with the right of passage. We experience when our baby teeth fall out by air so it's kind of programmed into us, but when we think of Well, we're awake. All of our thoughts have a kind of familiar logic to them. Right I did because I want to be I did see because someone is going to do indeed later and

brain which hugely underrated in the sort of adventures of our body. Our brain is always working through all this internal external stimuli and your brain, like your hearts, once a search going, it doesn't a break is not supposed to get a break until you die if your brain or your heart stop do what they do getting down how they get down You are very much in trouble so winter when you were asleep, your brain is still active. The brain is like this the great white shark of the body, you know. If it stops, then it dies and that's b because of a couple of things, so that no the rain is divided into segments, as we know, we ve got the limp dick system,

in the mid brain which deals with emotion in both waking Andrew, Aiming states interesting there, these these parts kind of have shared responsibilities and they do similar functions when you're awake and when your sleep- and that includes the amygdala, which is particularly act when you're in a dream state right and they ve got the cortex. The cortex is what, if we're text had a job. If your dreams were above soulless corporation in the cortex was an employee of your dreams. Then it have the title content creator, which is not not a favor titled, my suit that's a born is everything that your poor tax does your cortex rights and directs your dreams? Right comes up with the plot lights, everything you feel from floating in a vast, a normal ocean to flying to jumping from one impossible across one impossible chasm to another.

People you meet all the more is the chase you they all come from your cortex and the visual cortex right. There your brain, if your human, when you're listening to this, is especially active because we are such ghetto visual crew. You're kind of the way, the dot that dogs are olfactory creatures, this me wonder I don't have the science on a yet, but I wonder if dogs mainly dream and smell, why did you think you can I never really recall sounds from dream, and now, and then I know, that's that's a thing that happens. There is even a story. Paul Macartney says that he came with the malady too, I believe yesterday in a jury, many woke up, any others, melodies and being a musical dude. I don't think I've ever dreamt of a melody, I think of it, very specifically in the realm of visual hallucinatory kind of state in our. So I think that's pretty special for Paul to come out of a dream, stay with The melody. Have you guys ever dreamt sounds are remembered, sounds from a dream,

yeah really look. Maybe I haven't at all several highly talkative monsters that inhabit my dream. Scape, her fairy talkative in fascinating vocalist patients. I highly recommend checking out one of these if he had a chance, one of these Matt brains. Here David has generally oh yeah. So back there. My whom I underline Jimbo, look at that. So you know fascinating sign, but that the cortex been. I think it's yours silly right. The cortex is the reason why we're almost it feel. A lot of times for me and maybe a lot of others that you're kind of justice passenger in your dreams, but your move? you're, going places you're seeing things things are changing, but you just kind of except at you, Can I go with you just had in that action unless, of course you ve unlocked, the ability to lose a dream which is a whole other thing, but

one of the reasons that it's the dreams are like. That is because these parts of our brain, the lobes that or talked about so frequent kind of the logic systems. Those are the least active parts of your brain when you are dreaming which every explains why things don't feel so strange until you wake up and maybe it's also one of the main reasons you don't remember too much. My great odds is dead. She never the elbow I've never, Portugal, and you know- and if I don't write it down in twenty three minutes, I'll forget do that. That's it. That's right! That's another thing like I've, never been a dream journalists and theirs. It has to be my dream: ass to pack such a wall, from you to remember it at all, but when it

as I do, and they stick with me. I remember them for many years, but typically, unless you write it down super quick you're still in that kind of like waking dreaming between state and then you kind of lose it right, and are you guys good member in dreams? What would you say? Your odds are like in terms of like waking up and being able to recall civics from a dream. I keep notes on. My phone is always right by my bed. I said yeah are we doing about you Ben I I don't necessarily think it's a good thing, but yes yeah pretty. I do bullshit the great longtime users I dont sleep? I resent it. I think that science should already be it the boy like where you know, I can call someone in infrequent Bhutan and talk to them in real time with something

the size of an open hand. Then I shouldn't have to I shouldn't have to sleep. We should have figured some some way around it. Will the man went to space. We said people to space, but then, if you do have to sleep, because, unfortunately, Our analogue bodies require it for some dang reason. Why not? At least court as much as you possibly can one day we're here. Pull the plug in somehow and just get that stuff like roll on quick time, while I'm dreaming and accurately the right man, there's there's one thing, though, to add with that the way I spent a lot of time, researching kind o what we take Lucy Dreams, which probably story for another day, I I end up getting a lot of work. Done in dreams. It feels

I can do it a lot of work and then I wake up, and I think I got to write this amazing story down and then I write it down. Go yes coffee or something I come back at, unlike while the most amazing part of this story is I thought it was good. Does. My frontal lobes were turned off right in, and I think we, I think we do, that. A lot to your point in all about how how we process in dreams. It's in less People have your PTSD or some sort of condition that gives them. Violence nightmarish, recurrent horrific visions. Every time they sleep most people would her dreams to a dreamless, sleep in or otherwise really disconcerting to, ah, have everything go, dark at say for fifty three, a m,

and then wake up ads, I don't know to thirty seven p m and to sort of hope nothing important happened. Sobbing. We probably won't really truly what answer definitively like? Why do you dream? We ve got some good theories, but there are experts in mental health that they do believe. It is an important part of maintaining some semblance of vanity or like self awareness or understanding of ourselves. But there's not like a definitive like this is what dreams are four, but for different people there. For a lot of things, and, like I said, if your Pa Macartney, it makes you write a song, that's been covered by over three thousand artists and probably one of the most recognisable songs in the history of recorded music that's just my PA take on yesterday, but it's a thing that came from a dream, so they certainly have value. I mean so many artists recreate images from their dreams into your point. Then, whether I think you're selling yourself shore with the quality of your dream stories, but they are things that you ve pulled from

a dream state that you can then translate into the real world and do something with their functional. In that way, I mean evolution is a brutal editor, so You know that dreams exist for some purpose right and it's probably not a vestigial. Leaving of our earlier. A boreal ancestors, but Do you know to your point? Even if we tat at fully so the question why, when it dreams. We know do inform the way world, I mean we have examples. Just a rattle off a few examples. One of my favorites there's a guy named Dmitri many believe the guy who made the periodic table he's got an element named after and he's legit his story, his claim which is very difficult to prove about how he figured out the periodic table. Is that

he was going mad. Looking at all these mismatched cars can picture his version of index cards where he wrote down everything. He knew about an element. Any site having his Charlie day, conspiracy, theory, being he's trying to have his beautiful mind moment. It doesn't make sense, passes out on top of these cards and In a dream he watched them sort get up and dance around and then they with themselves in order of their atomic weight, and he wakes up any goes Eureka. What does satisfying feeling. There must have been just just the idea of of king order out of chaos than waking up and having an actual concrete idea from that. That's that's awesome! There's a I don't have the exact story here, but you can. Get up. This will be an adventure for everyone watching, there's a dream about a scientist who is it attempting to work on dogs performing surgery on dogs

know exactly what it what it is. And goal was, but he had this dream about a specific surgery that he wasn't planning on doing and then he wrote down all of the information from his dream, attempted these the surgery and he up, discovering insulin, he's pretty insane. Thank goodness he did so and that he had a wonderful dream yeah. It's amazing rate. This is this leads us to desert hands today, although we should delve into it it leads to one of the questions. I know a lot of us will have listening to this today, which is easy. Possible to Dallas, boilers, ok, no less save it for the end. We have to practise linear time for this, so I am I've questions for you guys that I will haunt you yeah. So So we'll get our passions in at the end we know we were painted a bridge good picture here. Right evolutionary theory suggests that basically

dreams function as a safe way to learn. Maybe right. So I can. I can figure out things without physical. Harming myself. The way that I could be in danger in the real world. So, if you think about it, we all kind of have this a hollow deck in our house. And we just run scenarios until we wake up physically heart herself or maybe burn bridge you now with a colleague maybe dream or you gets a yell at somebody that you're dealing with some resentment towards and then you wake up and you feel like you work that out sort of like a simulation were you you know, gonna beat the crap out of you now like a doll with this person's face on, and then you feel, so the union actually do it in real either is everything people do do her? No, I told him that we should be a why why shouldn t, I guess, it's better than hitting a person to get it. Did

a different doll. Every time you use, which is actually got a sleeve like a face shamelessly Rita slide in a new picture, you know and you can dress it up in the types of clothes that person my where it's a commitment by its soul but I do want to jail yeah yeah, I think so except in places, were really swell jealously Norway taught by nor Norway is I'll clean up this background here by I am in the process of fixing some stuff up, and I realized that currently the place I record is now as nice as a norwegian prison, but a lot of places where people live in the? U S or not, to your point, no, that's a minute. Think about that. I'm gonna think about like what kind of Daul is it less creep if you catch some over the real doll and they say no. This is not for sexual purposes. I put other people's faces on it because

dislike other people, and I just want to beat something that feels like I'm realistically beating something right now: it's not a sex. They, I think the safe way to get around that it is to use those rulers W W F Slam, because they were like you know the ultimate warrior and Hope again and they were little small kind of body pillow things areas lamb around or whether there is an aim form, maybe keep em like not life. Size now would probably key people from askance at you. We're not talking about stuff that happened in the ruin. Our little bit, the real world. We're talking about work, things out in your bed brain while you're not fully awake and that could involve working things out that are like either too painful are just too like weird to get into when you're awake, Maybe you have a hard time wrapping your brain around it, but you need to process these things wherever they might be. So this is your brains, way of like forcing you to address some of these things that maybe you're not equipped to do so mentally when Europe,

you're awake yet in this is strange, because we can also see that dream do. We have the capability to warn us if a things and maybe not in the way that we might initially suspect either. We see two thousand ten study in the journal, Neurology, which shows that some violent dreams may actually be very, very early warning signs of growing brain disorders, the very day There is ones like dementia, Parkinson's and will we early warning signs here. The study of the study appears to indicate that certain frequency, violent dreams, maybe predicting a brain disorder malfunction up to it. I gave out, which is which is nuts also. I think this kind of dangerous, that's the guy I think that you, you know you look. About web MD after you, ve had a nightmare

you're gonna die. At least this time it wasn't cancer because, as we know, web Andy it's cancer. Its cancer. That you're not really. I have violent dreams occasionally, but So what a lot of horror movies and occasionally spicy food before bad. So I do think I did when I saw that staff, then it did give me pause, but is this civically violence. E. U doing, violence are just any form of violence. Imagery in your dreams will think about three, like physically thrashing, for instance, you know you, your brain body connection has incompletely switched off which also. You know something that happens with sleep paralysis. I say yes, but I would say also that is in there fascinating study. But it's not it's not hard proof just because you're having nightmares, does not mean that you have called It was in the future, no more

than the average person lights. Everybody? Everybody knows that may have felt a bit like a bait and switch on our part, because when we say dreams might warn you of things, what are we really talking about? What is the elephant in the room that so many mice are confusing for five different forms of life? It is this, you or someone you go. Regardless of whether they consider themselves a sceptic or a quorum hold true believer has its point their life had a dream that they could not explain a vision that, for instance, inspired someone to take a different route to work on the Moor, never horrific traffic accident or assumed. Compulsion to react to a trigger something elementary as

go inside immediately. When I see the woman with the red hat and then boom you go inside and just as you go inside, I I don't know we're making stuff up so wishes or horses here, just as you go inside a gigantic piano, Slow down from this floor of that building and you would have been standing in the spot where it hit so fascinating slippery slope or these warnings from a mental process we don't fully understand is just coincidence- is theirs nothing more to the story. Can dreams predict the future will I will do our best to look at this. After word from our sponsor the goal, clap with hops to plug in Atlanta in the ninety nine is a twentieth century banal for the rich and famous with patients like Dennis Rodman, Michael Jordan, Madonna King Sweden,

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Here's where it gets crazy, that's aiming for for most of modern history that there's been this kind of notion of Sir the ability is precondition being able to see the future tell people's fortunes. All of that you know from that explainable kind of huckster side of things, there's fiction the realm of ghost stories in cipher and then There is, of course, the religious or even separate from religious spiritual side of it all yeah, you know science we look at things like this, where, where we dont fully understand yet they look as there is a mundane reason for this to occur. Just because, you don't know what it is doesn't mean that it supernatural doesn't mean that our brains are connect

into a time slip somewhere or a stream of whatever it just means that we don't know what's happening it and that's all, that's all that it enemy and as science when he's done well, is able To admit when it's wrong, science is able to learn from itself like the best of in beings are able to do as individuals site. Like histories, one long, ongoing conversation, it refers back to earlier points. Do we orbit the sun The sun orbit us each other. Judges these points it often native, disproves itself politically at a future date. How could this rock possibly injure me? from waiver waiver. I'm weak, I'm standing waiver here in this rock, as we were here. How is that causing me cancer rates, exactly radiation. Yes, I urge you to men, like you now

injure you when someone like froze it at your head. I owe that to ocean racist Iraq would like a bad vibes it's a doubter yard? You know what I mean: it's like an emotionally and abuse of rock to see making speaking of downers, we should probably get the downer version of this explanation. Cut it out of the way right, yeah yeah you're right now, let's, let's go the ones that d, probably too to their people, think of and should think of the first is the sea word for today show coincidence There are a type of people living on earth, now it's a long time tradition on this show we're pulling up the current world population, which is

then Billy and eight hundred and six million seventy one thousand nine hundred and fifty nine sixty one nine sixty five nicety like look. There are a lot of people, that's worth eight and the vast majority of those people they all dream most in one way or another, most people- So, by the way, do not dream in black and white is another myth to bust there who tons and tons of people who live then died before we ever recorded this podcast before pie cast anything before I don't know before hullo hoops worthing their autonomy messrs. Yes, there there's so many dead people that precede our stories in the world in which we live today and all of those people, or at least the vast majority experience the dream right, experienced multiple drinks, every night, Arizona, so vague. Well yeah. I believe you know I was watching at the Youtube. Video of everything. Does David he's a lucid dreaming?

guy, and he has the support of his whole pointy. Had the world population ticking away on on the screen and was just but how is it? Let's do? A more conservative estimate, less count out everyone that has insomnia you know or like kids, that maybe aren't interpreting their dreams correctly, ever in NEO, you could maybe lower. That number was still me now, a massive massive number, and so it starts to become like dice walls re like every time, someone's dreaming is the role of the dice and lots of stuff happens not anew not a bad news, lot of things that we are worried about, that. We think about that. We commiserate over. What will happen Will there be a tanker accidents? Will there be a horrible plane crash Sometimes those things alignment yeah. You know I think the focus kin can give any sharp there. When you talk about what's important factory, to the town where you right now,

maybe you're thinking about a lot. Maybe your family's worker, their factory for a long time. Maybe you work there in some in bad occurs at their factory because the tunnel, mechanical equipment, and so then goes wrong. It may make You feel as though you had a pre cognitive vision of some even if it is even if your dream occurred months ago before the accident you still might remember it, but you know that that's that's at least the way science would we put a wet blanket enterprise. The details right, the things a relevant are things. You remember the things that are irrelevant archive the side, and then you? U every time you remember this, just like it. Two hundred and twenty set to brief the narrator of the story. The details of your memory alter ever so slightly to fall increasingly in line with what you think happened and ty Does it matter right? There's, no, there's no methodology. Of course it's like a form of confirmation by us.

You you just highlight the bits that support your thesis you now. You need to explain something and you have this little inkling of a dream of a piece of a dream of a friend I have a dream. God knows how much of it you're, actually, even remembering it has happened to line up with that detail in July. I guess I predicted this this was meant to be. This was destined or something you know and that means that what we see is pre, cognition, just sort of magic trick were playing on ourselves. You're watching a video you doing something like what you think it really is your finger, allow some? How are you doing out under and understand what I'm looking, then? How did you He knew do the one where it's like When this lawyer becomes too that sounds like a witchcraft get. My lawyer, I should haven't, you did it for me, it's one of his face The thing is: a cool move, it's a super cool move, cannot care really quickly. Ask

as opinion about a something like this, that that did happen to me really quickly, it's very strict, nothing significant, nothing like a factory explosion or a plane crash or anything, but I used to ensure this studio in Athens Georgia- and there was this some woman, a young woman who also work there, and I never actually met her. But I her name is, it was a really cool name or name was Bennet Moon love. That name- and I thought I was really memorable to me and haven't thought about Dennett Moon in a long long time for whatever reason I had this very specific dream, where I met Bennett, Moon, those who personally I'd never actually met, but I was aware, like the periphery of this person, and literally the next day, I'm listening to wait, wait don't tell me on NPR and they are the call, thing at the end and the call in person, but Bennet Moon from Athens, Georgia and its The same person is this person. Question about it. Never heard her voice in my life. Never

matter, just knew of her that she can have such were the shared experience. That was we never actually, Pass. Isn't that weird is very right yet, but I mean at the end of the day I can shock that up to coincidence as values predicting anything exactly, but it's a pretty trusting game of odds there now and if it is, this is our brain, just kind of playing a trick on ourselves. And party meaning. That was a pretty pretty big and I was like I was like blown away or felt like I was seeing the hand of God or anything, but I did feel like I was experiences I mean. I know, There's another is still, a dollar, but it's a little bit less of a downer, though that may help explain that let's call it playing the probable game, so we're on me. Let's yeah we're all familiar Carl Young. If we are all familiar with arc types.

His ideas of the super consciousness and so on, but we don't really need that. Yes to talk about dreams in this way. So if coincidence is a lottery, then the problem Eddie Game kind of kind of your, your brain playing clue in it blow ways so may apply to your anecdote there. No, because Carl Young makes a great point about the perceived pre, cognitive capacity of some dreams. We would have pair praise demands which we just pulled. The quote it sound guy, you might ask, why, because he wrote it necessary near merriwig impetus. Oh yes, the occurrence of perspective dreams, not be denied. It would be wrong to call them prophetic because

Autumn there are no more prophetic than a medical diagnosis or a weather forecast. They are merely an anticipatory combination of probabilities, which may coincide with the actual behaviour of things but need necessarily agree in every detail, confirmation, eggs. So what so? Can we unpacked like the deaf The distinction between prospective and prophetic shirt spected dream would be the the sum of your sensory information, your memory often shorter, sometimes long term, you're free, being a femoral impressions, all mash together, like that horrible stuff, called neutral loaf that these two feet matters in the? U S and maybe still do northward kick now. If you I, like a slightly more pleasant person,

or salad. If you won T healthier as well right so so this is all this is all mixed up and from this our subconscious, which does function with some of the same as socially impose constraints or ego, impose constraints that our consciousness functions with our Our subconscious is able to aggregate these things and me, a Ours is a guesstimate. So a prospective is the subconscious saying. This this. This in this are crazy connected. Therefore, I think. Here's, the role that this road leads us to Sassy. The idea there is that for young a dream, may only be prosthetic if every day all of the dream now Jews every detail of the the.

It's the scene, the event in the waking more weight as the acknowledging that this is possible, or is he just setting up a standard? That's like impossible to meet. That's a good question he is primarily implying least, the way that I interpreted that we are under estimating the intelligence of our subconsciousness, because you know we are very unappreciative of our brains. I had to cut a line out here at some point, but it's like the brain works so hard, your ass, keeping your still breathing. That's amazing and the brain is doing that, but but that's what saying, he say that we're we're coming ashore, changing Own mental abilities, our own pattern recognition. Really. And that we only noticed this amazing ability when we add something super weirdly, specifically correct, and there were Well, maybe I have superpowers

Have superpowers- and they are entirely related to my ability to know which song Afghani here on the radio two days from now, which is a tremendously common thing, is. Actually, music or Europe. To all of a sudden, recognise Bennett Moon. Yet by the way I seriously our boat, she listens to the show I to say that that was. That was one of those moments that whether I was like is this real like I really had to to do a double take like a spit take, whereas I how to understand what what am experiencing right now and there are some other examples of this throughout history that I think, would cause even the most sceptical person to ask that very same question. Oh yeah, you I mean you go on other channels on Youtube and find lists of this kind of thing shut out to Matthew Santoro? So you see you man gave it.

An example of Abraham, Lincoln, that I had never heard about before so handed over to history, dot com just to learn a little more about it? Allegedly, This is the way the story goes just a couple of days before Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. He told his wife, Mary Todd and his friend Ward Hill Lamon about this dream that he had just had in this dream he's, I believe, he's there at the White House in the oval office or near there, and he is he he's all of these mourners. He sees a casket. He sees important members of his like innocent in the morning mourning the death of the president, but he says according to the story, he didn't recognize himself in the castigate in the get it wasn't him, so he wasn't read about it. He didn't believe that he was having some kind of prophetic dream or pre cognitive dream. There was gonna foretell, his death, but he did get assassinated few getting

was very soon after I had another version of the story where, like he was telling this to his bodyguard and saying: Lamon is was his part time bodyguard his friend, but that he would say like usually he was saying good night, Lamont or whatever, but this time he said good, bye and I told him like I've. Had this dream and I'm worrisome is going to happen to the theater tonight and he and he was like why you shouldn't go. Mr President, you said, but I'm meeting my wife that I want to disappoint her, so I must go and then like he, he said goodbye, for the first time ever, instead of me, no good night, which, whatever it's an interesting detail here, wait a little weird, because Lamon is the guy who told this story, eggs link was assassinated April, Fourteenth eighteen sixty five and this concept there was a dream that was told to Mary Todd in Le Monde. Didn't come out for at least fifteen year allow, even if not longer, and

was allegedly told by Le Monde, based on notes that he took in eighteen, sixty five, so hoo hoo if it's real or not but there is another interesting fact: the cabinet there with Abraham Lincoln were aware that he did seem to put a lot of imports. On his dreams that that he would have you tell him about it, we'll pause for a word from our sponsor, but please stay awake, we'll be back soon,

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they also get carried over in Embellish Juno, an incident. I'm telling you in serious, like unsolved, mysteries or anything on the history channel. After about ten p m back in the day and in this the the thing interesting about that is its often used. The a tendency, is often used by sceptics as a way to entirely discredit the anecdote Ray or keep raising the bar of proof until move is something that can never be attained. I buy it, see it Most enough for an entire episode on its own, the other worldly unquote, I take experiences of war leaders! Churchill said that he heard a golden voice since you, he was a child and said later that it saved his life, and in actually until even round world war, two or so until the world

two years it was incredibly common. For stern leaders to be pretty open about what they saw. A connection with some sort of other side and it fell it now it's it's it's a bit in the doldrums now because I imagine that a lot of people feel they would not be taken seriously if they say hey, I'm my family, that has prerogative dreams. I Africa dreams also, I should be in charge of nuclear weapons. It doesnt track right. It's a scene is a blow to credibility rather than just a part of someone's individual human experience, but we know it's not. These p or recounting these things are not chump. They're, not unintelligent people. I think you had another example Matt also in American and also a pretty smart guy. You love, em or hate him yeah. I found a story about Samuel Clement, just right

rifling through the internet, and it comes from life on the Mississippi, which is safe Clemens or Mark TWAIN's autobiography fastening, so He was the same SAM. I dont an awakening Mark TWAIN, was working on a steamboat called the in Slovenia to you to arrange for his younger brother, Ganem Henry to also get it up there. He was going to. I think what did they call it. There is a really interesting job, a mud clerk on the Pennsylvania, which is at the steamboat and there's this whole situation, where the captain insulted Henry for some reason and Mark TWAIN heard about it. There is a whole fight that resulted in Mark TWAIN just being and from this boat, where his brother was working right. So out of justice set up.

Come stances. Mark TWAIN got kicked off of boat that he was on. His brother is still there. So then at some point, mark TWAIN lays down. He has a dream and inside this dream He sees his brother Henry in a coffin and there are a lot of the sea it's about it. I've heard that he was wearing one of Mark TWAIN's own suits, but one of the most and Weren't things about this dream was that there is a specific set of white flowers laid down on two Henry's. Often where he was land with a single red flower in the middle right. That's exactly what it area. So what very? very strong image that was left on Mark TWAIN even after he awoke in these lino that kind of in a dream, but a loved one who dies, that's gonna, be affecting in some way, or another and saw their word. There were different deed

else here which would be of interest to anyone agreeing with the beliefs of coral young. Or the beliefs, as laid out in today's episode, he had some specific details. That appeared to be correct things that were unusual like metallic coffin. This is also for anyone else to read the ink admirably. I'm edited auto biography of Mark TWAIN where some of this is pulled from just one I just want to let you know a right there with you in solidarity. Even great writers need editors even just good at it, since very long, bookies dictating it on his death in the reason I'm bringing that up is because he may have fun, in victim to something known as retrospective. Conviction which is we're talking about earlier when we alter our own memories. By remembering, though,

memories. However, like you admit he. He says he I never had any doubts since it that dream that it was predictive He can't remember everything very, very vividly so Mark TWAIN ass to leave the boat. His brother is still on it and, later on. He gets word that a boiler has in fact exploded on this steamboat and his brother in inhaled a bunch of steam and it actually bird his lungs and using up these in the hospital, so Mark TWAIN, no obvious he makes his we start what he's doing. He makes his way to the hospital where his brother is its in Memphis Tennessee, and when SAM gets there, the doctors, Tell him that his brother is an absolutely terrible pain, but he's gonna be fine. He just scalded his lungs. A little bit he's gonna recover, don't worry about it SAM! They would have called him Mark TWAIN. They did

that name. Listen here, Mark TWAIN your brother is going to be just fine but SAM. You know a caring brother says: will there must be something you can do to make him feel little better, Ellie look enemies, obviously in and you know, ease and painless. Do something about it and According to SAM himself, he convinces the doktor. To give his brother a shot of morphine and doktor is supposedly inexperienced with this type of drug and overdoses, Henry and Henry unfortunately passes away. I thought he died from the blast. I didn't realize that that's that's extra tragic and unexpected. Well, yeah and you know again, according the Sami, never forgave himself were this fact, but the strangest part is that at the actual funeral of his brother, Henry, He noticed some things that reminded him of the dream he had had where

what d, what the coffin looked like the suit brother was wearing and the most In fact, most port. Similarity, perhaps were a a bouquet of white flour with a single red rose in the centre. There was laid down on to his brother Henry. That's like the end of it oh storage, twist ending dude and then It took the ribbon off and her head fell off like that. And there was a single red rose. Ber like that who told the story around seventy or eighty times by his own admission and when he was performing this story the Monday evening Club, as was called in, eighteen, eighty four, I d d incidents. I believe

I am thinking of the right wine without without pulling out that break of a book. I believe it. He was telling a story several years later, and so called Reverend Burton Reverend Doktor burden gesture. Extra accolades asked tween if ye I told it multiple times. He said yes, seventy or eighty and burden pointed out that is likely or its very partial for someone with the best of intentions to embellish a story. Over the years TWAIN stuck to his Once I dont think any of it is embroidery, he replied. I think it is all just as I stated in detail by detail, yes, the man, rope fiction and wrote an enormous amount of fiction, so is no stranger to spinning a tale. However, in the case of Mark TWAIN, I would point out that he appeared to have predicted he's death would taken his own hand.

He was worn on November thirtieth, eighteen, thirty, five, two weeks after Haley's comets reach the brilliant the point nearest the sun it. This is a plot boy in an awesome, cremation filled with some very disturbing depictions of the devil. I recommend checking it out and Youtube. I autobiography in nineteen o nine. He said I came. With Haley's commented. Eighteen, thirty, five, it's coming again next year. I expect to go out with it. It will be the greatest the appointment of my life, if I go out with Haley's com it so they went on about it. I'm sorry! that's a little different, because he is that pre cognition urge that, just in being very stubborn and say you know what I go out with the power move. But to your points, not ass? It is tremendously, I think it. I think it would surprise people to learn how come it is for

people that you would associate with great success. People that you would associate with great power to true belief in predictive, precompetitive or even prosthetic dreams. Maybe they don't talk about it as much now, maybe they are not recounting strange stories of their family year, their personal experience and, if so, probably reason it's because they feel like they will be resigned to the rubbish heap of the current day and that's a real valid. Learn by? I would imagine a world leaders listening in the autumn, today: the EU that you too have had a dream or four were bakers. Does in your nineteen that you yourself cannot

linked to this day. It is a very carbon thing. It is a very common thing. I know it's true and I mean I don't know. I'd add up to this point in the in the show. I would sound like were proposing any of these things. I think we all acknowledge the whole weight of the brain is a very under understood, that's of redundant, but certainly go that thing. I have. I have not proved this. I dont carried out I'm building a case egg. There, unfortunately we're not getting. I now that thirty, two trying to get too in a very hampers did way This is one of those ones where we legislator the clock, or only man. That's so much more left to go and some really good amazing juice science based stuff, but I think we're gonna save. Therefore or to cause, there's really enough there to give you another, really substantial episode out of this topic. Yes, so you will have to stay tuned, for now. Why don't you write to us tell us about

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