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those two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn this stuff. They don't want you to know a production of. I hardly hello. Welcome back to the show my name is met, my name is no. They call me dead, we're joint, as always with our simple producer, Alexis coordinated, Doc holiday Jackson most important. you you are here- and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know it's time. were our weekly listener, male, where we were. We share stories from you with you. I end today we have to have some. there's really interesting stuff. We have some allegations of inside jobs. We the concept

the strategy which we get asked about. Pretty frequently were diving into that today and then also, a little story that has always fascinated me and I think my fascinate guys as well about cryptic and extinction. So, Maybe we maybe we go in that order. What are you? What do you say guys? We did it episode on game. Stop We were. There was we're than game. Stop Wall Street Bats involvement in what some would call a financial revolution or attempt at such in this. This sparked a lot of interest rates. our fellow listers yeah. I did because I think it really the whole games that thing just sort of point and in that we have all always kind of known that the system is really designed for, like the power players. You know the top folks that have the most to gain and potentially the most to lose, but they don't like to

lose so when he got the little guys kind of rigging the system against them. They are like that too much in and there's some potential for collusion and just not playing very fair, but this whole games. That situation is certainly lead to the question of who has the most to gain from this whole idea of short, squeezing shorting sought. Inherently inherently feels super divisive and and controversial the idea of betting on someone's failure, but hey world boys. We know this eggs. Are we get into business? See now? Yet these you in some you loose, summon, sometimes p. can benefit from others, misfortune, makes me a little squeamish, but it certainly is party. Game, whether you think it's Ikey or not, but we have specifically. A listener. Call him to one a three STD W whitey gay. You can do that too, if you wish

We know what to call you and that we can use your story intrinsic that three minutes, if you can, but this one comes from our long time listener agent, oh hello, case it's agent ill. Here again, I was thinking about the whole came, stop. short squeeze attempt, and how is it seems that the creators of this idea, were really only looking to make profit on that started, they owned. I mean the concept that they would squeeze. These short sellers seems pretty ludicrous to me. hers, unless those short sellers were coming to the end, live there more is they would have to repay that borrowed stock, then the idea that game stop would have increased.

soaring limits for long enough that it would We heard these hedge funds teams again ludicrous I don't know how long ago it was- and I don't know if this is something you guys could find out how long ago it was that the had hedge funds started using game stock ever short selling option, but it seems to me That's the only benefits to this entire short squeeze attempt was to be ones who planned it orchestrated it. And brought in the feeling of general ill will towards the hedge funds

and all of that occupy Wall Street asked feeling, along with it, interested to see what you guys think keep up the good work. Nice. Dear thanks agent AL it's an interesting question make sure in check with you with you guys, man, That I'm understanding the question correctly cause implying some level of an inside job but I'm not sure if he's implying that the executive game stop were the ones that were right, the game, no pun antenna style totally intended ha. I won't! and I can't I couldn't possibly or that I think what are saying is that the people who were in orchestrating the short squeeze with it from from within this wall that's community, where essentially just out.

pump up the price of the stock that they already out and they were necessarily could possibly have predicted that it would do such a thing. Just damage to the hedge funds that were so heavily invested in the shortening of the stock. Was that what you got? from our or am I misreading it somewhat. So I would say This is a great question agent. L We know that In value a key figure- His name is out there now we know she was intensely interested in game. Stop before this short selling run began. So that's why he was the who had his. You know, ear to the financial ground and felt the tremors coming, but from what I understand, and this is based on a lot of Respondents from our fellow listen with a road into the shower contact me directly. It feels like it feels like the beginning of it.

May have been organic, but there were opportunist who jumped on board. Maybe with four motivations or some sort of ulterior motive right at these folks are you know you will see in the Wall Street bad forums, see people saying like people jumping during a game? Stop commerce vision and see, like you know, the next game. Son is gonna, be this thing and there I do like trying to move the crowd toward that thing that they Obviously I have already invested in and then also yeah. It's a great point know all about the The sea is endless the owners of game stop who were able to profit from this right, on how their timing worked out in also possible that leg, of course, professional investment bankers, people who work at hedge fund are very well aware of stuff like this. It feels like

it may be in being too extreme here. It feels like it would be somewhat naive to assume that they would not seize and up Trinity if they thought such existed and it's totally legal by the way, the way they did if they did yeah, that's right! Now! I want you take bow. I want to add. To that I mean the history of this is even a year before all this craziness went down aloud. hang on a Wall Street bets they they cargo, a torch for game stop day in an interesting way, saying that, like they felt it was undervalue because these hedge funds were already starting to bet against it. Like you know, at the beginning of the pandemic, because they felt like they were put human emphasis on their brick and mortar. You know, situation, and that gaming and game purchases is really migrating to us. All digital realm or as a little snippet of a big box store that is diversified and sells other stuff, whereas game stops hole

deal is that these tiny little bricks and mortar stores only sell video games. I guess You could argue that they, the euro, is the only place it can really trade games, but God the value they give you on trade- and this is embarrassing is, it is. It is a business, but it's like guys like I pay sixty five hours, these games and they steam copy they'll, give you like ten. If that, and then they turn and sell it for you now fifty A bookstore rules, man, college bookstore, rose no you're, not you're gonna, run by this guy Ryan Cohen I had the same idea where he was like back and beginning a twenty twenty. He he was trying to convince the boar. He invested a lot of money to the company and twenty twenty hoping to kind of peace. Listen this digital first narrative onto the many incentive suggested. Then the hey you guys the times men invest in you to show that that we'd, I still believe in you, but you gotta, gonna change your business model

she wrote this in an Assisi filing game. Stop means to evolve into a technology company that delight gamers and delivers exceptional digital experiences. Now, remain a video game, retail that over prioritizes brick and mortar footprint and stuff all around the online ecosystem, ouch, but yeah essentially games. still has a bit fortunately bright future especially if you obviously, this was like a symbolic mass. Groundswell that wasn't a silly tides, any real performance metrics was Some questionable stock market and the idea of value or what is something actually worth, but there question I believe I asked on the episode we did Ben website. What are these odors inflated price mean for the company does apparently mean that they could. There actually can be able to pay off their debts,

use some of that profit to invest in some of these new directions that they might be another. To make them more viable me now in the in the world of the future, are like the ten years ago but man. What do you think about this? Do you think it's past but there is some collusion outside of The game. Stalk kind of meme stock Internet read it people, they were like China make a stand in that kind of occupy. My that way as protest and can a balloon that a control or is there something more men fairy S book? calculated at play. I I think there are always going to be people who are invested way more than any retail investor who have more to gain and lose right for Anything that occurs like doesn't wee wee wee talk about one person, rain Cohen, like you, said, yeah one point January at the peak his

five million dollar investment and game stock in game stop stock was, worth about one point: three billion at the peak of it. and you look at all other billionaires credit acceptance. Corp. There is a person, is a person there, many Donald False again like went from twelve point. Five million investment and game stop stock ad. it was around one point. Five billion dollars worth so you know when you, when you were here, when you ve got investors and states at that level, You always have to questionable what else was going on here. as always we're dealing in a weird realm, where its opinions its

can get enough buzz going. If you get enough people to think positively or negatively, you can completely changed the fortunes of millions of other people, so technology outpaced the typical we know stock market strategy site, then the amount of nerd blood sweat tears put into knowing the information first and acting on it quickly is is astonishing like if you, if a aliens came to this planet, they would probably be Loki impressed we'll just how much time has been spent on that specifically, there would be other questions like what is your weird coupon system. Why do people die for it Are you at all concerned about the future of water at your planet, but they would at least, I think, like my way, back

the space ship they would go. You know that have lost everything is pretty nifty if they got into ways man, but european defence raincoat he did not do what you know is often crossly call the pumping dumped in fact he's continuing to lead a river and they just poached. You just put the Amazon executive former ends on executive. I saw he is definitely. If he's definitely transparent about having a horse in the race, so I dont know if you could see conspiring. I feel like what were with agent l and to your point about the billions of dollars. They were age Nels touching on here. Is the idea that maybe folks from hedge fund- that was not like publicly in the freight as far as this, the over short selling I feel like it is completely plausible. That's the way working there saw what was

went down and calculated some sort of opportunity, and then, of course you have. You already have games that stock yeah, you love the stock. Everybody has did that. But some strong on it. I know it and it's true, like so many of these investors, these high level investors, they have access to information that we don't have access to whether its through those Burg terminals. That cost like thousands of dollars, is ascribe to, and they give you I just the most up to date. Information or I mean you know. We say: insider trading is illegal in if you get caught, but I have. I have a hard time, believing that that's that doesn't happen like all the time casual little wink, wink nudge, nudge, say no more type moments. You now vigorous this way, this debate, Oh George, Sherman, yet the CEO of Game stop at the time a monolithic with their great opportunity. You want to talk about an insider benefit.

That may be. There was no, you know, there's no connection to anything else he over, you can only assume that over time he was gifted stock Pino as part of his compensation. He also maybe was doing his own investing, who knows, but he owned. Two point: three: six million shares of game. Stop The ceo owned two point: three six million chairs so that went Forty five million to one- One three billion just like that. If you know, if you own that much stock personally you can imagine that you would want something like this to happen, but who's to say that you could ever make something like that happen. Well, that's it It will then also got what talk about a red flag european me now, if he dumped that stock at its peak as the sea. He be run up the flagpole crucified. You know

the flag boy, mixing my metaphor, zero, but I think you see I'm coming from and the same with this, this in the angel investor, this lake, it whatever was the word, ACT, investor Cohen. Like that's pretty cool. he could have sold He was smart. He obviously wasn't a player in this. He does invested because he thought the company was undervalued and to move in the direction was trying to use this money to influence, namely the board to move in that direction. But you know he can see that portfolio quarter billing, you know cept toppling in value and he didn't sell right, thanks. I gotta know that, but if he asked location yeah. That's the application for sure so he obviously literally put his money where its mouth was. That's interesting it strictly, because both Those individuals like how in ensuring they are both at the helm of game. Stop Sherman is still the ceo, and so you can, The argument gets kind of tricky when you are

a high level executive in a company that you all a bunch of stock in lake, The rules around way. And how you can sell that Stocker divest yourself from it or you can get a little complex So if I were looking for more, and inside job or if, if the five of us Doc All that mean you listening at home. If we were in charge of game stop, and we knew we could, we could make a profit on this right but we also knew we needed to be legal in the first thing I would look for is kind of a way to put it at a remove. You know it may be that somebody else taking action. Tat were based on a conversation that we just casually had right

because a lot of times with conspiracies, though at times with financial conspiracy the days of the shadowy smoky back room are our over its much much more casual. Now, it's kind of like up we're both at the barbecue. How is your weak so here that that pretty good, so do this now hurry. I wanted just bring summing up towards the end of this, nor something maybe they you can look into later cause I'm a little. I feel. Out of the loop with it, but there's a person named bill, Wang, H, W energy and R K, ghosts, Argos, nothing is old articles. I dont know how to take her to easy greek word really interesting story coming out about the collapse of this private, family owned family investment fund,

like a hedge fund, but just very small in it. It doesn't require. The same things from the US. You see that some other big hedge fund requires. There's some weird self going on there, where the dude this guy bill like borrowed a ton of money from a bunch of different lenders, and then all into this huge petrol and essentially in then it just tanks. In the guy also has a past with dont know if it was insider trading. I know he has a past of some weird stuff in his world anyway It's worth looking into it just breaking right now, Is it insider trading? If you know something is a dumb question, Mfm priest answers. Yet if you know something is going to happen, that hasn't been fully announced, like maybe a acquisition of another company or a change in like trajectory or business strategy, and you know that- and

who act on that. You don't know the house can affect the stock, but that's usually what effect stock as news items like things like. Oh, I didn't get this government contractor. You know oh they're, changing to pivoting to a different me. Now in industry and our whatever we went through this with the company that we were owned by called Blue Cora that had an interesting stock. nowhere because of an announcement, if we had, acted on that internally. That would have an insider trading right year, though. I believe that what has been the case. So while we none of which was to say, was freely glossary bad. This is not financially right. Now we just like the start diamond hands, etc. So insider trading, Here's issues may be an example of top lay like we're, let's say we're. Ah, a defence contractor we're lucky or something and we know that because your high Mckinney marks in this world. It out,

organization, We know that things are gonna, be a little rough. Maybe nine existential yes, but they wouldn't be a little rough because we just lost the contract bidding process. for the new foot slapping drone that, and that is good revolutionise people walking round barefoot, which has barely huge problem This example anyway, moving on, if we now that- and we know it before it is announced, and then we all go and dump our stocks. Suddenly, I think that something Fifty will pay attention to the keeper mind a euro. We can't be the only ones asking this question. how many cases does the US, as he see prosecute per year, the numbers staggering. It's fifty. That's it all financial transactions in the? U S, yes, he see worries about. What's it about fifty year, they say these are

What a lot of people don't understand is that the Assisi is literally one person and worked really hard and she's basically and enter Wilson like how the eye arrest issue. I would add, logs, I design, Understaffed, think about who benefits from it. the under resourced. As he see he's worst irish. It's not it's! Probably not you folks, spoiler. As a matter of fact part of that is the way that laws written policies written so when we talk about insider trading, gave up the secular insiders in the financial system overall, because that's how it works right, the old Carling quote is a big club. You ain't it yet, yet I hold out hope everyone listening. I have to make the start joke because it's too good and dad like not tonight, you call me

catcher in the rye, is I'm Holden Caulfield get it holding my stocks. Hold him diamond hands, I was doing. I gotta do is start called Caulfield. Maybe it sounds like a kind of like, but little you're coming. They would make super something out of a mere well ok. This is interesting stuff, it is obviously word is seeing the tip of the iceberg with this kind of thing and in its innocent iceberg that started can of floating our way many years ago, with the whole occupy wall. Street thing in like now are actually seeing some activists activist kind of behaviour that Julie affecting people's pocketbooks and it'll be issued to see how we wouldn't even mention the fact that outside there's a whole article, I wanted to bring up that the hedge fund, that lost more than fifty percent of its value because of the game stops stock, you know shorter, situation, Melvin Capital- being sued by nine, if the retail investors, who claim that day,

initiated a conspiracy to limit trading that cause these these the retail investors, to lose money that was because of their connection with apps like Robin Hood, that all the side, no sorry you can't get game stop anymore, so monsieur goes through. The latest news, but plenty more to come and play More was an email to come after this quit message break. Why this episode of stuff they don't want you to know, is brought you by doktor pepper. You heard that right, those nostalgic buttons all just got pushed we're talking. Doktor pepper but in this case, doktor peppers, zero sugar is here it's a doctor, pepper without all the sugar. That's right, none of their sugar, zip, zero zilch, you deserve a zero with more flavour, doktor pepper flavour. Funny story PETE by their curtain, we're about to record this.

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representatives Australians tell them to have our show go there. I dont know how the australian government works. I don't know if they do that, but you don't give it a shot. It's an email with here, is a fantastic letter from Paul W in Australia. You asked about something that has fascinated me for a long time and I think a lot of our fellow listeners. Let's hit the letter first and then get weird, would it mean super weird, giddy fellas? That's Paul, not me upstairs typing here. My name is Paul and I think your shoes awesome reference are reflected by the quality of your pike ass. They really enjoy, for which I thank you, the colonel! I don't know about you guys. Black eyed allied always gets me like a little we'll cautious, is there going like boys are bought an I might be about his eyes or by not always, but there is it. This is a but free email to Paul

said stop there when she knew keeps me alert at work as a delivery driver which offers me a little extra scratched since retiring from a long career. In the australian army, as a field medic, I live and wool ongoing, and thank you for telling us how to pronounce that, hopefully is about seventy kilometers south of Sydney as the Thunderbird Flies, and I love all things scripted. I believe you are listeners- may be interested in the mystery that surrounds the Tasmanian Tiger. I dont know if you can class, by this critter is encrypted because it was the war is a real thing that officially went extinct in nineteen. Thirty six. However, Sightings of this creature had been recorded since the thirties, up until recently in Tasmania and on the mainland of Australia, something like ninety, Sandro Tasmania is dense. Impenetrable Bush lead so I believe labeling, this carnivorous marsupial extinct, maybe a little presumptuous anyway. That's my opinion. Keep up the great work p S.

Next time you see. John. Oh, please tell him that I love my Mr Hoodie as that eleven Easter egg there, before our awesome complaint department and the creator of tat stuff who appears in his alter ego on another, shall we do called ridiculous history. I did not know. Yes, duties, but that's all I didn't know how to do even everybody's Irene. The print hurries special arrangement think we investor, maybe he's just get that quizzical by but Paul. This letter made my day because of a couple of different factors by I wanted to check net nor with you guys. First have you done reading about the Tasmanian Tiger in specific, not as we talked about it, one of the cryptic things that we did then that I can recall, but we we mention just how cool of a creature was, so decided to hear what you ve learned, I just

Tasmanian devil from many tunes fame was has really entire look like. I don't recall this good. I'm googling in right now It's more like a canine to me, I'll cool like a hyena, almost yells like a dog with Tiger Stripes. expanding at its hind quarters I just a little vaguely dingo like perhaps yet so there was a recent news, peace that way it was earlier this year that claimed the. Has mainly in Tiger had been cited, happens spotted in the wild. This this which came around in, I think, fabulous you're, so I all it should be made to a guy on Youtube named Neil Waters, who says that they had seen not just one file a scene which would be the Euro.

name over tasbih entire when it has it. So when the has it soon tired, but said he saw an entire family. Me said he had footage here as well. As you know, we always want to look into the sources here. You'll waters those have? A fire was seen in the race here because he is the president of something called the I was seen awareness group of Australia, so he very much the leaves are out there very much wants us to be aware of this. the story of the Tasmanian tiger. Is you know it's pretty tragic in no small part, because the last one right Paul did die thirties. His name was Benjamin. He died in the zoo, so he was an animal jail and ever since then more than eighty years since people have consistently been reporting ideas, what they believe to be Tasmanian TIGERS and what's important,

What waters says is that he he thought He also saw a juvenile a baby meaning that there was a breeding population. This video, relatively viral he's, that he handed images of the file scene over to an expert Nick Nick Mooney at that, meaning museum in art gallery and surprise. Surprise. not. Everybody agreed on what it was over. Gonna give you another animal to check out in your browser of choice, and that is something called the Tasmanian pattern a lot which I may be mispronouncing path. Patty melon, let us ill Australians. So

people are saying that this guy definitely did not see an animal long suspected to be extinct. And if you look up this, if you look up the picture, this other creature p a d e m e, aloe N, that's it looks kind of like a walker. I think they're called and you look up this creature. That's what That's what the sceptics or say waters actually saw, and if you guys see just an image of this. I think you do Does it really look like a Tasmanian tiger? Does not so much slower age very cute, very Pixar, very distant. it's it's a little bottom heavy does. It is still Some are super feel so ass. The ass to carry young for a time It looks like a kangaroo mouse. Just like a king

a nursery I like nursery, I e gauge. The thing is: is really it's pretty small solely about fifteen something fifteen. Sixteen power it's about a meter, we're and a half in length. I guess you can mistake it for a task Entire group had to be very pretty easily mistake, just something moving in the bush. For one of these one of these supposedly extinct creature, especially if you wanted to see what, if you wanted it to be true, but the thing they gets me about this, even though People disagree with this specific claim is not just the preponderance of alleged sightings, but it's the fact that animals can be lost. and rediscovered, like the good old example, the most famous example, the coelacanth right- that I was all include extinct what millions of years while I was just live in his happy

actively kind, ugly life in river. Well, just different coelacanth is just different, just different you're right. We can apply surface level, assumptions upright on multiple levels through this guy. But the end that I listened to it just looks adorable I'll, be honest with you. I also looks so much like. I can't of some sort that it could. I could Imagine sweaty, seeing a dog baby without optimum viewing conditions and thinking like being certainly had seen Tasmanian tiger- I just want them to not be extinct, you what I mean I want him to be around. If you look Tasmania itself. Yes, it is, it is possible.

the Doha round, buddy. I think our in our last episode on this. When we talked about Tasmanian tigers earlier, we had all agreed they would. They would count, is encrypted right under coelacanth rules for sure, This would be a dozen be encrypted. I'm looking at that video. Now that Neil waters, you're doing not listed. These does he took I don't know man I'm on the feds here whether a pat him Elinor file a scene which Scott Pattern and silently deathlike. That's gonna be a hook somewhere, yeah yeah, it's the new track by whom, God will bring it out character back I Fisher yeah, I wondered I dont know licked eat, so you're on the fence met no what do you think is possible? There is a wish. I feel I get an idea tat. We have these scripted

conversations in the last year we had Mather you brought was about, though, really big, dire wove. Looking things that, like dragged a cow over a guard rail as it always ends up being the little detail well. the night. There is distances shadow you might have mistaken it for you know something else, since I that's what's happening here now that, big was dragging it dear. What it was not a cow is a deer over Rio, much more convincing, then just like seeing a thing from a distance essay. I definitely this this animal so but that was just a story I know what it was it was this guy waters has some videos he's got trail. Carers he's got images, I don't know where they were there. Man, let me see him he's some of them on Youtube right now left are not there. Yet there are then yeah yeah well out. There is. There is another thing here

That gets me as far as I know, one of the most I guess wait, the simple low hanging fruit step in a search for encrypted is kind of growth, but its necessary find a boot you're doing fine find a habitat find the scratching. If there's some like behaviour like that, I am weed in a previous episode we did some way cocktail napkin math about Bigfoot, and we said: okay, the Australopithecus is extinct, but that's it here are the biggest primate. We know of oh what about the current largest private right? Why? What kind of really and got slightly. What kind of book do they make? Where did the hours of work. You know how Often due to happen damages. Is there how much do they have to eat? Looking for physical animal. That seems like that would be a they would inevitably have to leave, and

to my knowledge that that has not been thought. Nobody see tell me in Tiger Boop, you know the fresh baked kind since nineteen thirty six soon. I think I think it's possible, but am super biased, because I want it to be true and and also even if it is true that there is some relic population as they would be called ivy. They probably don't have the genetic diversity to continuous species if they exist, the odds are not great that they will have enough of a breeding population to be a genetic bottleneck. That would ultimately do them. There Well, you know. The good thing is for all of us with just a casual interest in this. When you no water Whoever else comes out with incontrovertible images or video or some kind of evidence of a Tasmanian tiger living right now. It will make the news That is big news. It more

hit. This inner, whatever your checking every once in a while and then we'll know for sure. one where the well actually, if we don't proof, then we won't know and will always be a mystery. So maybe, let's just keep it like that are you say the real Tasmanian Tiger was the friends we made along the way. yeah, it's a fastened. In story any no. It's a story. That's not going to go away for the foreseeable for as long as there is dense wilderness in Tasmania people candidly people like me, will hope. Out, hoping against hope. Either we see, return of this fund. Especially in this time of a great mass extinction, we are living through an era of history in them, unpleasant way, but without being said, if you If you ve seen the Tasmanian Tiger, if you have eaten

meaning tiger. If you are a Tasmanian tiger somehow to operate. A keyboard were foam we'd love to hear from you to hear your experience, although I don't think any of us be tiger We will get dual lingo, we'll pick that stuff up. do well enough to understand you. Ben by the late before we leave? I, and a video. That Youtube channel the we were talking about a file seen awareness, scruple, Australia. The title is searching for as the tiger poop Hu Jia, Pooh where's the poop rights it wears a loop desert, turn on the thumb nail. So I don't know right was it have there's a little stink lines coming out of it and legal flies again, and then how do you tell like? How do you? How do you die? Sacked the gas? Ok, this is a small one. Tat is really the only I would do it. I guess that's

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it's been consuming my wife a little bit, and I I have a growing interest in this now because of her interest. I can't wait to talk about a so less jumps you, the voice, mail from Stephanie, tackle how her hand, Sir you guys have gone request for it fairly for having thanked hovering in the backlog, and the topic is astrology. My down at his younger his best friend then, like business partner, refers insertion in paying company. You re out astrology hard and they hear the strategy like hardcore. I mean

I remember even finders. Ten binder is astrology hard and my mom in him. The friendly than at that, and they would have the help just like hacking and light something was going on. Like the second year in a light, colored centres that easy feeling that motion ensured a lot more to it than that, but I have made a blow that more from it. Then anyway, I don't even know where he got the hurt, but another happy more people that he suddenly tracking number how come anyway- and I get that night time,

with legs, also logical fire, then how little change in urban meeting article not decide how it was late. Everything then moved alive, and yet it will does is actually a new, though either I remember when article one from that idea there I really you guys have held in her hand a fiery eyes. As my thinking how you guys, I thought it would be really could have you heard about, because I don't really understand why regarded as having a boy system. I that sounds like to hear more about it. I regret here you have heard I like tat. The said. Let me guy nice. Thank you so much

girls really great what a nice send off their right to the end, so think, Stephanie for forms and ease their voicemail, for you know getting us, to talk about this- this topic astrology in Horoscope, and what's going on in the stars in, can that have any effect on US law humans way down here the the Terry on this rock Dude neural well Maybe a lot of a lot of people believe that there's some kind of connection between the stars in humans in life itself on the earth sciences- more sceptical about it, as you could probably imagine, but it's some We can talk about and I figured why not start at the. Is where most people learn about astrology for the first time in for me that was through horoscopes. I wonder That was the same experience you had been. Ah, yes, but

western or scopes I had my introduction to the concept from chinese astrology and where's scopes, which I'll call the different system, and then I used to have her. I share this view: fagging beggar today Remember what I had that programme that we calculate your mayan astrological side. second line? Where scope I die, was really that was really fascinating to me, at least because in that belief, system is much less like kid glove I believe in yourself there. a lot of other astrological systems, because there, in some measure, american cultures, you know there's no belief in accident right you'll want to complete the Aztecan, the Maya, but there was a young there. Was this idea that if you free

since we're out on a hunting trip and new accidently killed. One of your colleagues are injured them. You would be punished as though you were planning, Do so and did it on purpose, and we read the mayan horoscopes. It is possible. Simply too born on a cursed day and you will, instead of something like oh you're, incredibly special because sometimes you want to do things in you. Do them, and sometimes you want to do things and you don't watch out her red shoes or something like that the other horoscopes you're. Just like person born on this day, is unlucky and has come since in the past and for their here for punishment. Things like that they may do is cannot redeem this well, that's intense, I was, I was Giving a spotlight for any video of yours they can see is on my my encounter rector just too that the better

I want to read you a LEO Horoscope for four right now for today, as recordings. Oh so this is. This is for all of us that, because it western system all three of us are considered LEO's, I believe, that's correct the current version. There is a thirteenth astrological site where there was weird snort him. we'll get it I so here it is ready for all you LEO's out there, including us, marched thirtieth, only twenty one according to Horoscope Dotcom money, you may have been hoping to use to better you're living or working condition. Could suddenly come your way today, LEO Ideas how to put it to work in them, deficient satisfying way could pop into your mind quickly. You'll probably want to write them down. Consider your options carefully and then choose the ones that suit your needs best go to it. They also you could make some money today that you ve been trying to get in. You could have an idea about how to use it region it down.

Don't congratulations. Congratulations to you! Brow, nice out! This is soon This is an example I dont know. I think that we have talked about this before, but I had I used to have a gig of freelancing, where I wrote horoscopes for a very small paper, and you know I did not. I did diligence right. They just wanted reports on what are called the Sun Sites, Nineveh twelve Parisian, and You know I do things like theme. Have Halloween themed, Horoscopes things like that very fund, a right, but how do I got a lot of correspondence that really surprised me? people are saying things like Agnes. I read this was incredibly helpful in one way or another in there. Go into the nature of the blue of belief, because if you believe

something works and you're not harming yourself in your not harming other people, then full power to you. You know The study, I know we're taking a second to get to your questions, yeah. Sorry about that noble we're word fascinated by this. We have been a by fascinated by these systems. Western Northwestern. For a long time, I have a. I have a theory that no doctor, I think, could just pop possibly many aspects possibly explain. the mechanism through which the stars in the Heavens, the movements of the planet's could maybe affect the human and I tried to be really rational about it and I tried to you know, you open minded. As so. First we don't really understand how gravity works. We know what it does, but that that's it

We all understand a lot about gravity. We you don't understand a time about the human brain in certain aspects. This and we Don't understand a time about the development of a human, in the embryonic stage, right that we still have questions regarding things like a measure of consciousness, the nature of consciousness, perfect, yes out, consciousness form when, when white, what degree? and then also we I mean we don't even really know what will happen if a child is conceived in birth in Spain, then in their evolved. What I'm saying Vol for a very specific gravity environment- and We know that the actions of the movements of knowledge, rest. Real objects. Can chew would agree effect have gravitational effect on me.

Planet, then all the things living on it so easy. I know we're walking a very like tapering branch. This is graven rid. The tapering branches is exactly where we need to be because I've got something to share with you also, but I dont think you ve. I don't think I've heard this. He ok or so it appropriate, isn't possible like if the moon could affect tides right, Does it given that has proven? Is it possible that massive objects Kenny search, some kind of fear, small gravitational effect on the planet and then Is it possible that guy invitation will affect. Who had somehow influence formative stages of the human brain in what we would later call Euro personality or consciousness of no proof? This is why this was like literally me several years ago, probably like too Yours deep,

thinking about five, maybe by the time I got to like it would have. Maybe it was about food. But yes, that's that's all. I tried to explain some of this stuff to my self. We knew that we know that tons of people use astrological services Now you can get in the forms of acts, but also me print out these charts in an attack. to get a better understanding of themselves, their loved ones the idea of when they should do something or what they should do. We We know that a lot of world leaders have been influenced by the military Junta of Myanmar relocated, their capital. Some years back, on the advice of an astrologer and Ronald Reagan, hadnt astrologer, astrologer people, people from all walks of life is what I'm saying believe in, and practices ask and I want you to hear this- then everyone listening

we had a question in their a comment in their from Stephanie. About cannot predict since one of the reasons that you would have charts and everything to kind of get a sense of what may becoming? Oh? Well astrology darkened. We went to Horoscope darkroom now we're at astrology dot com. They hosted in number of twenty December thirty. First, twenty twenty, an article called twenty twenty one astrology predictions welcome to the age of light. Speed change. Ok can find. This is a person named grey Gee are a? Why Crawford in this? There's one thing, then I'm gonna point two and it doesn't mean that the whole thing is correct, but this one thing is pretty astounding and when I read you part of the first paragraph ignominy jumped down the years when twenty one enters with the proposed to force of a new era announcing itself as the

the impact of the great conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius ripples outward. While we had to grow the end of an old Erin, twenty twenty, while in during difficult birth, contractions collectively the astronomer, If twenty twenty one will require continuously adapting to the far reaching changes there will be a running cross, all aspects of society. The closeness of Jupiter and Saturn in the sky at the beginning of the year will serve guiding STAR of hope for creating. reforms in innovative solutions needed to address the numerous societal issues and inequities there have been. Exposed during the past year of the global pandemic. Now up and down the future. last year you ready for this area January begins with a big bang as Mars will enter tourists on January sixth,

spend the rest of the month, amplifying the volatile tensions brewing between Jupiter Saturn in Uranus their old. I just I just love you because I was delighted with you were like we're like in a straight up to eighty seven eyes. wisely but January What happened on January sixpence? Well, the? U S, capital was stored for the first time in a long long time and it was thoroughly storm right and gas. Conceptually Mars entering tourists. I don't know that Something about that. That's crazy to me! That's crazy! so so the idea, then, is to what degree can astrological practices predict?

real world events on a macro or micro scale. People definitely you believe this there are numerous historical example right. The thing about astrology is whether you consider yourself more sceptical whether you consider yourself a true believer. You can easily admit that multiple cultures across the world and across time independently either invented. This were discovered this in Did you discovered some version thereof and the your verb choice there, hands on your personal beliefs. I would, I would argue yet it is a coincidence that Sir Why is there such thing? Is coincidence? Bre other affairs, like part of a conspiracy mantra the conspiracy real, isn't like weird to me that we can that my brain actively can have this belief that really is no coincidence, like it's tough

really get a good coincidence. They didn't have some kind of guiding hand way in the background, even orb. Just you know it immediately. in front of whatever action occurred, but I have that belief. But then also this astrology in production. In this way using the stars are charged feels like hogwash me it, but that's my personal opinion it feels like. pseudoscience to me and Don't you know the vast, Jordi of scientists and researchers and educated individuals out there at those upper echelons wouldn't problem. I agree with that especially those at NASA talk to people who deal with space out then they put out Oh there's a time article that you can read and it is NASA has no time for your astrology nonsense. That's the time article eight generate yeah, pretty yeah, that's actually from NASA.

that is from time. Ok, don't get. The idea is that a quote from NASA Visa The doubt that press release You know they did not see you today. They everyone down pretty gently there, great places, you can go to that same same kind of thing. There's a website with Berkeley the college Berkeley. What's the worst? is understanding science at sea, it's? U n d C Ida, Berkeley, daddy! You Dave! a really great now shut on their website. Where it just talk to you, Well, you know The strategies is its scientific or not. It's almost like it looks like a workbook. The you'd find you know in grade school or something, but it's pretty great because it just gives you these bull appointed like warriors. Why a lot of people dont think its scientific here

a lot of people believe in it. I really really appreciate what they did. There was there. Is there any particular point there that really swayed you away from away from March your hogwash position is more and that it is in possible right now at least to the best of our understanding, it's impossible to test things astrology possible, but is illegal. a copy of the London experimentation, longitudinal study on oh sure, get sure get people from the scene. Genetic background make all the variables, except for both time and location as as close to uniform, as you can hear, and then somehow in and trying to see us only supervillain, somehow ensure that choice with our board at this exact schedule so that you can shift the very

But this is no, we shouldn't arrived. I do this level is not not a girl like that, will take us the right step, but yes, it is it's true there's there's a lot of stuff, you dont know human beings and often are so good at making patterns. Funny story. Folks, added we were just talking about this earlier this morning, I so good at it recognising patents, because it Actually, it was an evolutionary necessity before human became the apex predator. This stays with every human, be pattern, analyzing master and it's easy, sometimes dangerously easy for people to create a pattern. In their head wilder their searching to discover what I believe does it mean that people are practising prodigy in some cynical way or bad faith. I think all of us

the audience no, at least at least a few people, for very well read in one of them systems or another and very much believe it, and I would say out of context. This is how we by indefensible Astrology Matt. I propose that it functions as a at times profound, tool for psychological inventory, you know what I mean you're learning about how you react to this information and that's valuable. We go in its exactly and at least in the western style of things like horoscopes, in checking your charts and things on some those apps you mentioned it seems to have a profound positive effect on the individual. Does it used always encouraging for ITALY but at least what I've encountered so. Again like if you can use it in that way, even if you don't necessarily believe that it has an actual one to one relationship

what's going to occur in your life, you- can use it in a way to enhance your life than jeez. That's that's amazing, and I am also not Pooh Pooh brewing astrology, I'm telling you what I believe just currently leg. I hope everybody understands that also, but you know, if you are if you're really into it in your interest, and you want to learn more there's a play, you can go online called Astrology university dotcom end You can get a degree. There are pro as of study there. There are. There all kinds yeah, I'm not how much it costs a, maybe really expensive. I have no idea, I'm not promoting them, but you can go there and you could do a four year training program if you want- and you know better- best astrologer you can, I think, that's as the cool thing, o eight idle about you up there always enjoy it. When my, when my friends get super into niece thing and have expertise over that

you know it's such an amazing thing- to learn about people euro once, once we're on the other side of this particular pandemic. Before the next pandemic comes we're gonna, have so many grey conversations with people who have picked up somewhere, really weird knowledge in their time in quarantine. Then say hey. How is how are you were how's it going is such alluded question nowadays, but imagine hope what's going to be, when you can ask one of your friends so hey what did I haven't seen you for over a year, I went to get into well, you know I would putting together a model train for my kid Christmas people still do that and and knowing you everything about trains in the hundreds. If you ask me any track gauge the dangers of steam and will work been up to you, I'm a Ricky master. Now so yeah abide

If anyone knows email Ricky, I'm super interested love to talk with somebody screech out love to know just. can you actually do it through this? They could can you Ricky enter through a camera into somebody's body and then back to the camera you getting in the way you can send vibes if you're televangelist yeah. Why can you do that? I'm not saying I think you can or cannot just interested the same thing with it. With a lot of these, the law the things that are occurring in new, always online kind of environment. Can you transfer something electronically in that way, Sidra astrology ricky- I guess astrology straw, different you're you're encountering the information in a Monday anyway, you're reading, right in its proven, the people to read

what what would another will be it couldn't acupuncture wooden were yet be physically their yeah hypnosis may be. Could you hypnotized people as completely different? I think that's all two different. Does the low quality mono audio lovers? Zoom call like this, since it allows for hypnosis this probably option somewhere in preferences where you can at enable hypnosis the preferences on these things. Crazy. But, but yet is your point. Seventeen people do like. I personally know some people who create astrological, charts and the very by the book. the very in depth, though the kind of people who will get a little annoyed. If you, if they say hey, I wanna do your astrological chart and he said Alright, I sport sometime in August such and such and they'll say ass. Now now, if I need the exact time, I need the hospital.

You know the coordinates, the latitude and longitude and then, if you make them they disable what does it matter than the actual get as it all matters and the reason people some people are much more sceptical about. Astrology is because simply put the believers they're doing it wrong, I you know, I don't know. The issue is, if I'm assuming the skeptical cite. The issue is here that if, if, understanding were sound reproducible and everybody agreed this was so then it would be the kind of technology that would always being used by corporations and governments and various other institutions right like banks with tiny stuff these on what they were able to divine from the stars, Maybe they are, and maybe we just Don't know when you gave two examples of God

instant government figures that did their astrology when making policy decisions, but that doesn't seem to be the case for everybody. I dont know I don't know? Maybe maybe there's a secret cabal. Astrologers there, the real power in the world Norman, so we hey. We started this segment where they Horoscope for Berlioz right from Horoscope Dotcom, I'm gonna end with a sentence from the US, a strong dot com horoscope four March thirtieth, twenty twenty one fully as you, I think it is civically aimed at us in electric opposition with your brings forth downloads at lightning Speed LEO yeah. Oh also wanting a lot of people who probably way impressed bring up, I don't know why. Why are so? Many Astral o horoscopes so many horoscopes from ones.

Was there another, so very different on a given day. You know what I mean it's a fair question I really thought the opposition of uranium springing. Fourth downloads was gonna, make you laugh Ben, I'm sorry to know. I taken Syria that try not to not the ghastly crack up at this. I we have to ask where they re apologize, does a dumb question. What is mean exactly every fourth downloads maybe at lightning speed and there's an opposition with your anus. So I don't know something do that so in its electorate deal so I had. I did have some wifi problems when last we recorded is that it is that are the star speaking to us about fix. Your wifi I'll know, do just tune in to your intuition. Specially today's moon sales, through your astral fourth house of roots, innermost feelings in emotional awareness, so that speaks in you. I I felt

I gotta tell you: I was looking up some asthma horoscopes just to see differences, the ones from March Thirtieth. Is we record this and they saying are certainly all of you guys to just do it oh horoscopes read my you know Red Aquarius, recourse, etc, there was one that made me nervous. It was like this might certainly something laugh about the extra cautious around your boss today Really you can never wanna hear. No one wants to hear that you don't have as the daily bonus for us. Both Money changes everything, especially you don't have it watch your cash So, ok, another failure, so maybe maybe there's a well sir. There is a matter of people these readings dry, these charts and then putting it their own time frame. they're. All short presentation style as to the army. Would be that

with the arguments be that sceptics are objecting to interpretation, not short of factual basis. But again, I think school you're, not you're, not hurting people. Do do be aware, though, that a story that I mentioned earlier about a thirteenth astrological sign in the west is very much true, so this system did change right over time. It did we ve gone way to London. We gonna end it right here. Oh good, Lord this episode. Poland in Atlanta right now he's just covered everything, my god. Is hitting me really are today, I'm so sorry. I have to feel my nose writings disgusting. Wait. Wait a second! we ve got so the near from dark holiday. A dyke says I was telling us about taxes I don't really believe in these. Let me get my Libra horoscope after the episode. What So now we can do to render the up. Our lesson Do you wanna? Go she who horoscope Stock outwardly

gonna want, I'm gonna go TAT S true indeed, I come last horoscopes those people, the super that exists I am in a minister here, you ready doc as a laborer. Cosmical guided by the bond building planet Venus today Sky see Venus in a well supported alignment with stable, Saturn helping, ground down and explore realistic opportunities for connection on the romantic front, is an ideal data, bring people on board with your creative personal projects or to have a serious conversation about relationships future as an of commitment and follow through, is present ah worthless when, like that while I am over at something called ass. True talk that palm would see what they have to say: oh no way, no one euro a better one This is well we're bow wow at the end of this. One is talking about again,

position to elected electric, your anus in your erotic, eighth house, this is, I dont understand some movies. Do you rate is blow it up these days as you said that scope dot com. This horoscope says DOT holiday, as we are doing, I'm in Here- not quality information received today- excites your imagination and encourages you to start a new artistic were creative project stories. Pictures abstract concepts. All could come together in your mind and foreman inspired idea that could change your life, so girder lights, right down your doubts and see where all takes you, you might be surprised by what you produce using in China is the last part of her mind. Just attack on the bands concerning is perfect, is, as dear labor at your effort is much appreciated in your line of work. It's time for you to We appreciate what you have to bring to the table to

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