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hello. Welcome back to the show my name is met. Our colleagues know is on an adventure. They call me, then we join, as always with our super producer, Alexis Code, name, Doth holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you or you you are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want. You to know behind the curtain, as we so often say, I was just comparing notes little bit earlier Doc Matt. I think this might be the. ass. The episode we record this entire year, the last segment record, this terrier nervous, is it. This is finale me. Twenty everyone, relations with the public, comes out there. You know like in the new year our finances were weak late, whether Fidel this fine, it's a little echo of that which was twenty twenty you'll. Just

law reminder and forward into the future. The horizon beckons out you from the distance, depending on how you think of time. You are I either inevitably running towards the future, or the future itself is inevitably running Where'd you we ve got some weird listener. Males they met here. We ve got some really cool stuff. I've got you ve gotta voicemail, we ve got Volvo got a couple of just cool out of context thing. though, we might just just drop in the audio sullen here. The way they beat drops in Dubstep gas, or the way a game drops in to the police station store and then just disappears almost immediately here here comes. Quick one from Steve Steve says just gonna preface this by saying.

I'm a forty three year old man and as such I suck at video games. However, about twenty five hours into cyber punk on Xbox, one member talked about this game is buggy is hell, but it's totally ass. Otherwise it will randomly. what you out and send you back to the main screen on Xbox. All that aside, it's the most fun I've had playing a video game in a long time since sky rim, sleep. Well, that really is allowed to say by the way I chose a default penis size. Ok, now, oh boy, we talked about in a previous episode that, in this game, you are allowed to choose the size of your genitalia and Steve is happy to report that he chose a default size. He said

felt right at the time they do smiley face to lay low population smiley faces. Matt, always always wonder if you're gonna get to that part of the letter yes carriages what we understand our highly customize born, I'm so glad to hear that during the game, Steve I've actually kept. You MA You know I love spoilers right. I live of love spoilers, that's kind of where's spitten I have linear time I guess, but but I haven't. I have not spoiled much of the story of cyber punk for myself and I have you This will know. I have not. The most I have done is watched videogame donkeys. Video is coverage of it shut out too, to him by the way and anyone who watches his videos of watching for a long time been been, and I have shared a few of those in the past big shot out to you. May you continue forever more sir, yes,

I said I am I'm a little toward about which direction we should go in net unthinking voicemail makes for nice outweigh what do you think o gash Europe would listless go to yield voicemail, we received a message from Veronica and they asked if we could look into something called ran do not occur. Randal not occur. You say thanks so much This. This is the man, I think you had heard about before. I had just a little bit about it. Could you give us a quick and dirty on random nata? Do I literally heard about it because of Veronica. I I read a story about a weird occurrence. They had to do with this and some users of this, but I did not connects random, not occur in. story together. He I'm sure was in reporting, is just

In my mind, it wasn't about the app it was about this weird occurrence that I was reading about. My goodness, I feel, like I've stumbled on a brand new stuff, of my life span. Random Monica is early supports a real life. Choose your own adventure that you get to play every whenever you open the app and choose to use, it doesn't sound entice, Does this not exciting? Well, let me just tell you what it says, the website Randal Nata, Dotcom, Randall ECHO is the world's first Quantum leap generated shoes. Her own adventure reality game except were the world. You never knew existed. What? What the here's more just from the website about what this thing is says? The app puts the EU or in the directors chair of an adventure story yet to be written by using the app the user

break from their mundane day today and take a journey of randomness, to the world around them transmundane, you might say trade ends mundane very much, though this this episode is gonna work, so nicely together with Leslie Work and live work alive. I gotcha those this is that's pretty in Tennessee, these terms would be called high highfalutin these are half loon I'll. Tell you what now built listening. It says make out of your reality. Tunnel, recalibrate you're and and have fun on an adventure into the world. You never knew existed, welcome view. your random. Not so, but it sounds so wonderful and eat is ridiculously symbol, at the heart of it. This is an app tat, is literally getting you to walk somewhere within a certain distance

from wherever you are an to explore that area. That's literally what this is, that is it, but it has been purported to be the reason behind a lot of strange occurrences. Because this is from what I understand. This app is more of a formalization of an earlier prank said, something that a lot of us have done accidentally. I ran, do not existed before yep rendered not just people who would fight and a doll location near the random as they could maybe using a random numbers, generator defined, ordinance I would just go explore this view. She's in evolution of that which I, which I quite Joy. Even though I have a little less water, it was right through it is safe. interesting, but I dont think either of us who use the as yet have we know. I have not to be honest, some

little by little weird it out by it. But by reads it's not because of creators or anything behind it. It is just during the time is when you know that were in. We were not at all didn't land were not in any kind of imposed physical lockdown, but I would say a lot of us, including self. In my family are attempting to minimize the number of locations we travel to the zoning concept. just going out randomly to some location or just even travelling unnecessarily, to feel like probably a bad move by mean. It necessarily is for you or for your situation or where you are just speaking for myself here, but I have to get back to the story that I was telling you about that. I read about previously before hearing about the up. There was an occurrence- oh gosh, think it was in June. Maybe I'm wrong. I dont know the exact date of this. But not long ago this year, a group of young

people were using this app out in West Seattle when they were just No exploring an area like the app tells you to do you go to these random coordinates litter within you know a certain I believe, as a certain radius of the user. They go to. These coordinates in your meant to is your intention to explore or the area as though you know it's a brand new place, because it is and just get yourself out of your own head space that you're kind of stuck in, and happened upon. I believe it a bag of some sort that had the remains of two human beings? twenty seven year old, any thirty six year old, believe and was male and female, and as such, Surely they D stumbled onto it homicide investigation or they started a homicide investigation because of their exploration with this up, and that is very, very weird. Of course it was it was.

captured for social media purposes their journey, because that one of the main reasons people were hearing about This is one of the main reasons. There are ten eleven million users of this app already, because it is very, very popular if you, use, social media, especially video social media sites and applications to film yourself using Rainbow Nata and going on exploring the world and why there are so many occurrences or it seems like there are so many strange occurrences because of the frequency. Then this app is being used by people and documented, as is being used right because it's a psychological manufacturing defect movie of the human expense strain you if you everything I always get stuck at this red light. which are remembering is just the times you been cited, the red light, where you're, forgetting as every other time they aegis, sailed through

and you didn't feel very persecuted by the universe, sore spot lit by the universe yeah. I think this works off. That's we do know that has been described as performance are, as multi media store. Telling reminds me a little bit in some that has been corporate types who call the dna of immersive theatre, expense, in sees things like the latitude society over in California, which will get into another episode Disney Sidebar, and please keep this MIKE tack, but Sidebar Matt have you heard of the Latitude society latitude society know. I have not a boy. Ok is aware of what is a wireless, but Random Nata is doing so. Then that's pretty pretty fascinating. It reminds me of member, no man sky before that game came out there. We remember the hype. I remember the hype

HU. I never played it s, a really bad because what of art? I waited for one of our colleagues to play it, and let me know what the deal was, but no man sky essentially promise to be your game where the player is a space ferrying person re, they have a spaceship in their their cruising through you, verse of randomly design worlds, and that sounds beautiful As you know, the game is, is writing itself around. You and Random Nata is the sort of re framing the way you would encounter the physical world. It's not physically changing stuff about the world around you, it's kind of like a skin. You can put Google Earth or something yes totally, and the only thing is Brando not occur, marriages, its users to use their intention to generate in the world experiences, so it's all

like a cold reading of yourself or something where I decide My intention is to find a guidance wherever it is that I'm going to travel so then, once you get to that location, are searching for something that is going to meet that criteria of your thoughts on what guidance would mean or what guidance you believe. you require it in that moment more find something unexplainable and then you know you did. over a ladder set up against a tree in the middle of nowhere that leads up to a single apple know who would have and whenever they knew you encounter, then kind of you can ascribe those thoughts to that thing or you're going to be doing that anyway. Yeah This has a shoutout I do not agree that they also ask you to choose entropy right. Yes,

the attention and entropy rendered nautical has a prominent connection to one of my favorite academic pursuits of the alleged spooky mental actions, people or level of yes p, recognition, etc were taken rather Princeton, engineering, anomalies, research programme or pair pair add an experiment. In eighteen. Ninety, nine and a number of other experiments supporting this idea that people can to some degree control random number generation through their thoughts. Their focus thought will in turn

alone. If you're a fan of the mixed squeeze the awesome mixed Sweeneys DVD publication, they used to come out regularly. He was like a dvd magazine or short films. May remember. One time make sweeneys wolfing distributed a bonus dvd from. I think it was pair either. Ask you, the user, to view this reporting on a specific time, see whether you could alter the results of the random number generators at pair itself at Princeton, so this source fasten ignores the more sceptical members of our audience. Today are going to point. The numerous holes in the mouth algae and problems with process sure, but still it's it's fun to think of So this is more more. An argument

four, Renate in my book, but Men Matt. What kind of data is getting captured here? Oh right, they say there isn't data being collect Val actually go. Let's go to their f. A cue now support DOT, Randal knots, dot com. This is officially what they say. The application does collect user data degenerated points, but never your starting point. stored as anonymize information? with no connection to you or your device. We utilise GPS only for your starting location and ever run this permission in the background. Officially, that is what they say now that we're on the ethic you can. I do if you morbid police well means the app keep sending me to private pretty. What should I do enjoy the journey as close as you can get to the destination without trespassing observed the observed the surrounding as key. please you're, comfortable with, as a user of

you must abide by state and local private property laws. Ok, it is private property there s more during the day Ray Oh yeah, it does say that this is what does it say? I'm scared to use the app will anything bad happen. It says it try to approach of neutral curiosity general? The feeling of thrill anxiety in a bit of fear is somewhat normal for first time users use situation, awareness, avoid night trips and stay in your comfort zone and this this ok. So there's this: there is the reverse psychology of this- it's it's very in some ways it similar to the old game of getting into a dark room in saying certain phrases repeatedly into a mirror right to tempt some other worldly. You supernatural entity as there is a lot of stuff on Tiktok. There's lots of stuff on you to the people say. I tried this one

who is terrifying, never use it again. You know and those people we can say that their being perform it ever insincere, without knowing the me honestly be very scared, but that fright is mommy to other people and what they want the danger. You know what I mean you ve heard. The urban legend person said so and so into a mirror. Well, why not should the light fantastic myself thinks thousands of other people that's what's happening here, I've rendered Attica does say you have to get your parents consent to use the app if you're a minor. How is that How is that a real barrier right who on earth is looked at? The? U must be up to eighteen in upper whatever quick things on the internet and thought the FBI is after the now get me cause, I'm sixteen or whatever this guy

and when it when I was now as you fourteen, Linda, I don't know, I think it's worth. I think it's it. So it's worth exploring. funding to do enjoy GEO, cashing as well those unbiased by, but has or as whether or not intention can effects the random number generation I don't know, I'm curious curious meant. What do you think? I don't necessarily think it can, but who knows I mean proved to me- were not in the matrix right now. Then. Can you know you can't so that those who knows Maybe there is a way to to game the system. I'm just of it, because I was, I would be using it right now. So, let's take a break in I'll, try and influence to this

had to be, or what am I going to influence it to be world of Warcraft near the weird tense nature of our partnership, right there with you. Ok, No. Amis. Ok here goes man we're back. We'll see you will see that they have worked for someone, but Euro also the argument that you should do what you want with with the old and with your experience so, to anyone who said I wanna to help I'm gonna help doc boys out and I'm just gonna play a world of Warcraft. Add my own

on you to pursue made a true for us, a shadow lands. This next piece came to wise not few long ago, and it is. something that we wanted to share with you all, and we wanted to get your opinions on this Ralphie K rights to us in says, esteemed colleagues, Plugging the transmundane. Please find a letter attached. It explains everything we come in peace, afraid being not do please Hale Heiress all hail discourteous that sounds familiar Hale heiress, I swear of her them four and this courtier, not disk world those a whole other thing, but discord IA

So this came with a an attachment. A letter attached that e we both were little hesitant about diving into the boat. They think did it a preview of the message, maybe compartmentalized before opening it and when we opened it IRAN by Eu Map, I M very glad we did so because we got this wonderful little letter. We wanted to share with you it's a bit, it's a bit thorough, so I propose that we split the duties up here. We tossed the. Ass, the tax back and forth between ourselves, and then you know, pause as needed for explanations of first explanation before you begin what is discourteous autism,

its according to Adam. Go rightly was founded as a parity. Religion Adam GO rightly writes a lot about fringe thoughts and research. It encourages the worship of arrests, agreed Goddess its errors in Greek in itself, discourteous in Latin, so there's a lot of strange stuff. We're about to dive into were on the edge of the pool. so? Here we go? Let's start at the top and as the man had our says, will will start the beginning will go through the middle will stop at yet not as perfect art to Ruthie rights from the absurdest historian. Army. An e o o t algae alarm, affiliate too, with a host of stuff. They don't want

you know by name they are than it has, are three names and then what is? What is the colon dot? H, Colin DOT M colon dot, and then your name? What is that I am not familiar with a lot of these abbreviations either. Guy right, honourable the right honourable, I don't know Mr Ben Bowling AIDS weird weird, I knowed it did you notice. They didn't put the m on every name, oh yeah, you're, the only mister. Well, maybe we all know Master master. I don't know I don't know I would be Sleety, so we ve already start our already go. What's good I'd, please let us know what the are each means. We are not intimately familiar with the school of thought, so Ralphie says,

my colleagues in Transmundane Research, there we go. The call back worked, call allow us to begin with introductions. I have countless names and countless faces You might call me a dentist in of the space exterior to reality. The. Why inhabit a flesh shoot at present these days, I wear a red. Hats and I made quite real and practical magician. That's amazing and they continue. I find your work fascinating, particularly your collective talent for aphorism we at the each a are also transfixed by the inexplicable de hyper novel. The super real Transmundane, yes in particular our age, Poland's adage that the great ideas or the force that chick just the world and as the

of the illuminated conspiracy, your collective insistence on conspiracy, realism is refreshing, to say the least great ideas. Ben are. The four that changes the world and I could not agree more well. It appears that were being buttered up. Or something met her? Let's get to you? Yes, esteemed colleagues, we the sawdust historians Army are in affiliates of the esoteric order of the laughing God itself, a branch of the whose, crucially, in order of western torture latter I'd love. It love it. We are the President representatives of the radical, Deasey. Oh gee see eighty in georgian Vodrey honor Discipline of the wrongdoing might arise in the south, Western United States for our since happened

I wonder if that's ha ha ha and then they continue. The scarlet lodge force. The crimson hood were the red hats. We seek to directly assault structural notions of global fascism through our conversation and armed confrontation, if necessary, to kill the idea without touching the body that thinks it fascinating, assaulting the structural notions of global fascism through art, conversation and armed confrontation, if necessary, NED throw thou in their dash of that ok, ok, we see you, then they continue. In short, we see what you see. It is in our house now and we must find it. And do now what we can. We practise a wide range of tat. Dicks, primarily in the realm of culture, jamming and idea combat God. I love this been ok continuing, but this is a branch of what is wrong.

Two as operation g o t be. We have a document, getting higher metaphysics, which would be more of a definite interest to you and would be happy to and a copy with no strings attached. Let me just say: go ahead and send it, please send it also the sceptic me does not believe that there are no strings attached. Everything is connected in saying this: is this not culture, jamming in its own right in some way, Marina jamming the culture culture gin- and I so they going to see only reason we have not done so with this letter is due to the general objection of sending unsolicited documents to film makers were artists. For obvious reasons, however, we explicitly intend find your intention for you to make up your mind what we have with as said no strings were implications attached. We intend

also to contact the or each in there. It is again Robert Evans, but tired of lead difficult to reach for clear reasons. If our esteemed colleagues would extend to him. Our invitation as well would be of great assistance we would be most grateful life is not a requirement to experience, the MR is so they want is to reach out to rob more brought. This is reaching out to you. Can you hear us the airwaves or the pod waves. Whenever These things are Robert. This is interesting stuff. What do you think he's doing great great work by the way? I can't the ace enough about it. market is but off to allay shows these gardener and dear listeners We recommend. All of them will probably have him on the show at some point, but to our wonderful corresponded were so glad here that you are aware of and supportive of the work of our aid

M Robert Evans so now our author goes on to give us what a series of questions- oh, yes, in fact, say. Allow me to pose a series of questions. Who am I before immediately read my signature. Who am I without that context, can you guess my name? I am if it helps pleased to meet you all I'll, be it in absentia What is anything without its context? Do you see how I just became myself by context? Does any You have any define ability at all without a comparison, light and dark. Yes, delight must be bright enough to reveal the dark in the dark must be deep enough for light to truly appear well. Let us speak of chaos. Guess of chills, that's actually read met just sounds. It sounds like writing. That perfect lie between us

supervillain in a superhero second largest there right there there, the the anti hero that is exploring the edge to counter. I don't know, loveless talk about chaos bent over gas, so Look around the letter continues. What is the most abundant thing? What about in every place, regardless of what else abounds upon it. What, indeed, is the abound there so to speak? It is chaos on manifested is yes in one of its opposite be said to have one perhaps hand I generation yes, would we call that hate or hunger may be the two together? We call it malice, but does chaos not contain all within it along with all negation is well, then malice bus balance within the formula if we model it as one yes I love it. Elsa writing so wise. I love how, at the end of some

larger conclusions is just a comet. Yes, feminist are writing. That way. Sounds good, yes So then, what is order not the opposite of chaos as potential in philosophy would have it the opposite of order is disorder, the actual dipole defy in the relative emotion, motion of NEO phobia and NEO failure that is being fear of our fixation on change? It is evident neither is correct entirely, but one must stand in the middle of a bridge between the two islands. Yes, overall is the overall of chaos nested within it. The hostage and the page, the anarchistic end, the era stick order disorder, the halves of chaos, undefined

It is the tension of hard and podge that makes this the world of ten thousand things truly. Do many things come to pass and includes our author says, this is an invitation into the highest mystery again, in wording here afraid be. Do please not the actions. You continue correspondence and then a very direct first person closing here. I promise I M, not a serial killer or a stalker mean absolutely no harm is only an invitation and may be refused with no offense taken. I think any invitation should be something people can refuse with no offense taken under this under this letter, or that Part of the letter it ends with the extra time has been a man at eyes, and then we see

in writing in red help me out man, that's definitely read write that is red yet and also appears it appears to be german and my incorrect here. I believe your correct yet or wait. I'm seeing some lux turned me. Unless were unless we're going. Oh wait. It's hale, heiress, Hale, heck, eight who are they in Finnish him Reuben Rex, in they are they just trying to get us to say these things air been rights. Yeah, to amplify the spell now met. As you pointed out, some parts of this letter are in a different light which, and one of those languages is german. We had an interesting discussion off like about magic is weapon. I psychology

and whether we are being asked to in some way ample I a magical work it by reading these phrases saw in the air in our reasoning. We all would actually participate in a spell whether or not you Billy We certainly don't wanna accidently draw you our fellow conspiracy, realist as as part of it overridden members of a spelt I so we figured we were ready english translation of some of these phrases and that probably won't have the same effect right. If I understand this correctly, one hopes that this was not anticipated, who wild eyed man? Ok, so let's do it. What do you think? what are they? English? I've won? You do one I'll do the Middle one

You do the lesson is that? Ok, ok, ok, for just from that top phrase. Ok great! So the first raises eternal flower power eternal. Acid power. Is our near getting listen, I'm seeing the last alaskan. Is I see the fourth color? Oh, you do but you re the one I'm poorest. colorblind. I need a public colors I get so we look. Do it doesn't seem like gum, it doesn't seem like anything malevolent, remain no other little observations, aphorisms concepts. Everything is true, nothing is permitted. stop you have you ever noticed that the only things you notice are the things you notice you just did. I love that again afraid be do not please, but we can rebuild.

Nice furrier says one day you will read this message and wonder at how much has changed. We are the Illuminati curiously that stuff. We are the Illuminati is in all caps, except for the a and are of are Ben. I am not familiar with that practice of spell in that way or writing it. In that way. The certainly new to me- and I note with others I think I feel like such a novice in Transmundane. I need a level up my lot, while, I am fully on board this is so weird seems kind of cool, fascinated o o seen some stuff like this before, but not addressed specifically to us. So exactly where flattered very flattered, let's check it out. I put you too much.

the spot code name dark, but I blew what what do you think of what you just heard that that's what I do. Ok, ok is working. Now the discord has been sown. The chaos husband sparked all are confused. Be not please oh boy, this is getting to be a lot it. Let's take a quick break and we're back very well further into the depths so a real and practising magician our our author identifies themselves as meaning, then that you have

enact aid what are sometimes described as magical works and would love to hear examples of that would love to hear more explorations of this. I think for outsiders. One thing that becomes pretty confusing is the nature of what would be. Maybe hold applied, affects versus the more philosophical, metaphysical concerns and spiritual navigation. So I think seen that together in a combined system can be confusing to a lot of people but the first thing this reminded me of that, because I am a relatively simple person, is the illuminato trilogy tumor these books, I do certainly there are many references in here in fact tell me

correct me if I'm wrong, then, but I believe that phrase that phrase right towards the end. There is ripped directly out of the Illuminato trilogy the blooming craft part there, the flower our view. Is that not ripped from the luminous trilogy higher maybe way off Basil Euro this this Hale discourteous, stuff is definitely in I dont know where they pulled it from no Ray yoga but there are things in their like the twenty three, a nigger which is the idea that twenty three is a magical or somehow significant number and in the principal discourteous, which is kind of the religious text of the discourteous, leave system to written by a Gregg Hill and carry window Thornley in that you'll see a claim about twenty three that says all things happening.

fives word divisible by or multiples of, fives worrisome, indirectly or directly appropriate to five less the law fives in twenty three is, guarded as a corollary that law, because two plus three equals five ass, a kind of terrorism we're diving into here, just very clear. You know. We can also see that the reason we are based, five and base ten kind in numbers is, is act very simple, because that's the number of phalanges or digits we have. Now those phalanges they really? They ve really just sent us. You sent us on a path because these things- men, yes, yet as these head now, if we all six fingers there would be a euro. We do indeed have a legal base, twelve kind of situation going on spreading yeah

If, for some reason we all had six fingers do, Octopus is have legal base. Eight reasoning will surely we're maybe night as each each arm and ass kind of its own brain areas. That's that's enough. Is overdue day? But ah this letter was such a refreshing surprise. it's something that you we always want to be honest with you folks. We all understand something. It's something this over my head, I don't I didn't catch a lot of these references, especially given that there was a fire go up. There is entirely not in not an alphabetic language that would be familiar to a lot of people for sure, Well now, just gonna go down rabble after every hole stuff that is included in this message, and gonna stop for a long time in really just want to learn more about these Scarlet Lodge of Force or the crimson hooded feel, like I'm aware of the crimson hood, but the scarlet

for some gonna learn as much as possible about the same say met the hard same. Let us start this today, That sounds like it could be a weird Albin title, someone it's like a Mick Mick, Jagger Solo, album. Take Mick Jagger a hard same why does it feel somehow off and weird well, it's just the hard the crimson force, I'm not gonna, get the Crow enforce out of my head or the scarlet. For sorry, the could Scarlet forced the Crimson something circle. Yes, yes, in this This also has an interesting tion to our earlier exploration. Of random Nata right the idea intention alone can alter world in ways science has yet to understand, was fascinating. Here is that we know

This is to a degree true when it comes to observe sure of actions very very small, thinks right Lego. Whether light is a particle or a wave, the two slid experiment and so on. What does that indicate anything larger? Does that indicate my? I dont want to sound dismissive. I'm just trying to think of examples. Does that indicate for weeks well, that a vision board can meditating in front of a vision, warders meditating on road. Does that somehow through the world around you, or does it simply alter the way that you experience reality? I guess question is really phenomena logical at some point, phenomena logical experience. meaning that we are not changing the outer world where sort changing our consciousness with New information, more opinions, renew beliefs and we are affecting that change most readily by

our interaction with external objects of our direct experience, so like a we changed the world or age. Gee our minds about the world. That's that's! Ten! In the big question, man. I remember win back in the day I used to get I reckon own make use of it. And I would have these kinds of thoughts all the time. Then. Let us go back to irregular officially because of this letter, you back your back. Are they gonna? Do I'm going directly? sweet sweeter Reagan half so I guess has given us a lot to think about. I think both of us are going to be digging deeper into this. We have we'd massively appreciate now follow up document there with a little bit more about metaphysics, because, I think was intimidating to a lot of people in the sort of situation is finding a starting point.

You know what I mean, how do I begin to understand these very specific allusions references and so on, or should I is this just an act of culture? jamming and if so, what are your favorite acts of culture jamming dear listeners, I'll tell you met there, there's from examples of this in the Illuminato trilogy, as some of my favorites have always been fake sides. Just fake size are just plausible enough. Like one of the best examples in Illuminato trilogy. This is not a spoiler someone into a very fancy department store, and there is a sign that says you know like you have to have shirt and shoes for service etc. So they all this sign and they put up a different can Roy. It is, but the only changes it just they add They added the lie. Like no spitting

and this was really fancy sore and so customers will be very true, off when they walk in their life is spitting a problem We, someone has been spitting, thought that a sign was the necessary. Yet so that's what I like culture emulate day like putting up. I used to put up a lot of fate lost photos. our last night's notices flyers here like a hand I have one. It was like a lost parrot and the whole thing was like: please don't bring him back, he's a monster run away? We desperately want to make contact. Listen to his knee, don't listen to what he says It will lead to a stray. That's amazing! Well, that's really great this has nothing to do with? I'm so sorry had a picture just it flash in my mind as a family. We were

this new Pixar movie soul, Ellie, I just came out, I pretty glorious as aid. clothes, a different view of eternity and the contract of the youth, first in the men iversen all is reality unknown reality. I would just recommended, for you know, maybe not Superman kids, but anyone who has a budding curiosity about how life functions and in all of that stuff, it's just that. It's a inspirational story. I would say one for the adults. Do yeah, oh yeah, I cried eyes out, pagoda tyrant, I'm cheers fixer ahead. Take sir, is yeah, did get a formula. It works Yes, I would love to check that out on your recommendation. I am also going to be re. Reading illuminato, trilogy, wanna hear your examples of culture jamming just one more personal example:

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