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This would. However, dear conspiracy, realist is going to be a little bit different because you see recording this on Monday October fifth, and anyone who remembers what happened this past weekend for us was a roller coaster of a news Michael and wondered continues as we record the forty five president of the United States, president, J Trump has been confirmed to have tested positive for the corona virus for covered ninety being the commander in chief Ali World Superpower, it safe to say he receive treatment. The average Jane, John or Joe American Britain's normally get, As we record now, the president of the Where's has just announced that we'll be leaving Walter Reed, the medical facilities, ways been for this weekend I and you'll be.

Turning to the White House, but so much strange news happened, leading up to this announcement that we want to dedicate the majority of ours. Brings new segment to this bizarre story. That still has a lot of questions left unanswered. Would you guess it's about the size of it? I would say so. Yeah, I think so any of you know talking about a leftover second, when there was a tweet, they went out from the president's twitter account that says that the president in the first lady had both tested positive right, an that's kind of what set off a whole, just a whole series of events, and it was immediately following almost immediately following the first presidential debate for the election when you twenty, so it was just there's, there's a lot to talk about what it means for you know the rest of all of the events.

Can be happening for the presidential election. Twenty twenty there are other already a lot of consequences for people who are close to two, the president's re election campaign, so yeah, let let's get it What are you when you want to talk about? First with regard to two this happening will, maybe talk about the time line, what we do dont know about how how the president was confirmed. and how various members of his party he believed interacted with were confirmed, positive first, We know that one of the president's closest advisers, one hope Hicks, was stated to have symptoms like indicative of a cruel virus. Before, the president was confirmed to have it, but the president was in close contact with Hicks a rally. Minnesota reign was dear

that event that this occurred. This is interesting because it ties sue. I ties into something: that's that's pretty distressing. We talk a little bit off here You mention the presidential debate, the first one between former vice and Joe Biden and current President Donald Trump. When was that again, that was on September 29th, two thousand and twenty that was in Cleveland, and it was the first presidential debate held during the age of the pandemic during this time. the moderator was Chris Wallace. That's gonna be familiar to a lot of people during This time in, while the debate was divisive? No sir, Is anybody watched it there not too much discussion of actual policy during the length of the debate, but we

behind the scenes. There was a a regiment and policies instituted that required. In theory, everybody to get tested for co, vague and have a negative test before they participated in or attended the debate, but members of Donald trumps Travel party, including Trump himself, apparently did not arrive in time to take that tests. So it's an open question at this when trumpeted contract covert. That's right. It was a Christmas as the moderator confirm that and said they were going by the court in court. Honour system It is a weird thing too, because you know we're talking about the outdoor campaign rally where Hope Hicks

started feeling on well when returning from that abandon those on September thirtieth the day after the presidential debate. So perhaps that's where contact occurred with the president's you'd have to speculate all this stuff and there's really know idleness how good it is for us to generic. Well, how do you get it? When did you get it? Who was in until We get into the more conspiratorial stuff which then you know probably hit here. Just in a few minutes, by about was he purposefully infected Was this a pr thing? There's all kinds of Hannah yeah, there's all kinds of things it we're going to discuss, but yeah we, I don't really know no if he was infected or not because you didn't get say that as a threat at the very least, that we do know that he knew. That had been in contact with someone who tested positive and can continued on with business. As usual

now there was an event where they nominated a Fisher. They put forth the nominees for the Supreme Court's Amy Coney bear it. Agnes events which I believe was in the law, the White House arose, earn Yan rose garden. Ask these you sure you see all lotta hugging in choosing and non mask wearing folks and, of course, Trump himself was there and then sort of the event that seems to have led to a whole slew of infections within trumps, inner circle and and White House staffers, and also some press folks that What is called the pool, folks that track trumps me I meant tender. Are you no get the briefings about when he's going somewhere? So they can kind of follow, follow suit and get the coverage yeah. It's drawn comparisons to the infamous red wedding, which is next week, spoiler for song of ice and fire game of Thrones

yeah at this point, as we record this Monday October. Fifth, we know that there are at least twelve. I want to say twelve confirmed Kovac case, that are in some way related to that event at the rose garden, but the again, as you said, man, it's tough to pin down, exactly when someone was in fact did when they knew they were. In fact, did you have to walk back into a little bit of clinical and on a logical research, but right now we know that the recently affected people in communication in this part of you will include people Ike Colleen, Conway hoo, hoo Eddie, I'm laughing as it's just terrible do your kid who hid the results, her daughter and her daughter believes that her mother infected her, who picks we mention senior advisor,

Random Mcdaniel chairwoman for the R N C Republican National Committee, trumps Camp, manager, Miladi Trump, the first lady, which makes sense that would be. The person is the closest contact with the president, senators MIKE Lee from you time Tom to us from North Carolina who are both members. the Judiciary Committee, which goes play with us from this overtake him. I was scooters, at least three members of the White House Press corps. I believe that's a couple of other people are suspected of possibly contracting covert, but have refused to take a test or refuse to disclose those results. And really do you know if you think about it, there's not any law saying that they have to know now Yo Brian Lion. you mentioned Chris Christie. Already thirty

I could mention yeah, who has been hospitalized than is also highly at risk. You now for four way at an age factors in the same way, the president is in doing Nick Luna the personal aid transparently. That's where I get it rough. The way this virus really just goes through groups of people not taking precautions, and it still my going to me dead, there's debate whether or not this thing is even real. You know- maybe not I mean I know it's not so much debate about the real debate about the severity of its debate about how it came to be why it came to me- and we ve, talked about a lot of that stuff previously, on the show, I'm, I think the mumbling it is that people are taking it, Firstly, at all, in a lot of places where I've been recently cause, I've had to do some liner car travel Babylon nothing intense, but just you know showing

when a place in realising oh wow, you know any doesn't feel very safe in a lot, places in Atlanta you go a bit further out of from the city, and it just feels like nobody, either care or your defiant are being defiant of the fear. I guess in a way, I feel I went off the great briefly a few weeks ago is very much a different world ice Just that anybody who was planning to take international travel or something. If you live in the. U S, I take a drive, take the back. Roads be safe because you will see you, you will see a very different world, especially if you live like the majority of the population in a large urban centre. It it's worth it. We have to realise that a lot of people aren't getting hit if the art and very isolated area we also have to realize you know that that reaction of that

something is being overblown, is very actual and understandable reaction, because the vitality rate of covert versus the infection rate of covert right it, it's pretty small. It's not like you have a fifty fifty chance of dying, rare, eight you still have a chance of dying and it's just very easy for people. Unless they personally know someone was passed away from this or has been crippled in some way for the rest of her life. It's very easy to say. Well, this is just the flu, and this is a culture of fear. You know what I mean we're in. I totally get it. I think it is one of them things are you think about it? You think of Our sitting, president right now, a key that very much. He is at high risk womb of getting it to he's a high risk of having very adverse effects from it right, like a lot of people, this planet, and just because you are you know, maybe

super vulnerable to being harmed by this virus. It doesn't mean that there are people in your media, family or immediate group even neighbours or people that just go to the same grocery stores. You aren't. We very much damaged by this thing, so just online anybody out there is listening is still thinking about will. Maybe, as you know, it doesn't matter and I'm just gonna keep living life regularly. I would just ask to please think about people that maybe you don't even know personally that around you that could die from this. Even if you can't that's well said, that's well said a struggling in the tragedy of the commons signal. I would point out, as of ah what October? Third, the? U S, just recorded the most daily overnight

seen infections nearly two month, so it's not on decline. Maybe in like three states in decline, that's it so back! timeliners briefly on October. Second is when the next week came out from Trump saying that he and Flotus had tested positive for Covid nineteen prior to that he had tweeted on October first, the day before that hope, Hicks it tested positive and then just leading up to that in the few days before He had not only attended the debate. and that rose garden ceremony, but he also had attended a campaign of vat where there, Say footage of ham like throwing hats out like make America Grey, and had sat in the audience Minnesota. Yeah and aloof Minnesota, and so you know, there's a lot of speculation and that could have essentially been a super spreader event because now. Understandably egg now not understanding doubt not at all

The timeline is very sketchy and they're, not really releasing detailed information when they knew what they knew, which to me seems like there's something to hide it sure seems like he knew when Hope, Hicks, tested, positive and then chose to. Maybe not. Travel with them, but continued to travel and do these events you now where he was interacting with folks, largely on unmasked and the crowd like unto over. First, when he attended that dead Minster, New Jersey, fundraiser ah, which stinks you know because we have to be fair? We don't know, we don't know when the president, First lady realize they were positive other than that self reports on October. Second, but still regardless of who do what win? imagine paying for what are those fundraiser pain to attend a fundraiser bed. Minster, New Jersey, those things are expensive,

why why you're paying for not the orders is not there having no, whatever you're paying for access to power, which means your pain to talk to someone room. I very well have covered, which means you're paying for a chance to get covert. Nineteen very good chance. I don't think that's what they meant to buy, what what Coca veined, though I mean without shelter and cock cocoa Van its chicken with wine and spirits rail lines ass, I highly recommend either you're doing a play on cocaine. Sorry, that's my lord. I thought I did. It aren't dishes that shows the difficult for different people, but what yes or no Now we go on the same day that you reported this, that tweet aim very early in the morning? Twelve fifty four a m when each tweeted about the positive test and then

leader that day. That's wind, Senator MIKE leave you Tom reported and, On the same day, officials in Cleveland said they could trace at least eleven different positive covert. Nineteen results to preparations for the day, which is kind of a could mean. A lot of things is a lot of people involved in a presidential debate, our what? Why is the commission non presidential debates at Federal Election commission stuff. When I wanted fast forward to our two or two later and at the October. Second, I ve. The president's team was saying that he was experiencing quote mild symptoms. as he was flown to Walter, Reed, national military medical center, that's one of the top health care. Facilities in the world by the way and that we also have conflicting reports from it.

doctors where they indicated that he hadn't been getting supplemental oxygen and that he was again, like you said, been experiencing mild symptoms. We then some reversals of that envy explanation being it was a matter of bedside manner or a matter of accentuating the positive, I guess in an effort to not exacerbate the condition, by stressing the present. Now, I'm a little confused the doktor but you'll have to help me with his name guys that that made the statements sort of justified. Why, maybe said something that was a little misleading and it was something along those lines to like push forth. Positive narrative, in the hopes that, like positive, Thinking would help cure president. Emma was a little taken aback and confused by that logic, positive outlook, a lot of A lot of her twitter fame was made by people pointing out

He very careful language, the guy used when asked for I win its doctors, Sean calmly by the way when shown clearly was asked about, treatment was asked about the past dense condition in a vital vital in from should I he. He said that you attempting to share and upbeat outlook as rapporteur, I dont want to call it spin in the medical profession. But there is, there are a few key phrase: is that can let you know people are trying to think positive, but nothing's really change just an average day to day life, not in the life of world leaders. But one of those is, if you see report, says someone is in good spirits. That means that their psychologically ready to fight whatever medical condition they may have, but that there may not be, as while the physiological change unless otherwise indicate our feet?

The thing I remember once it wants an Sean Finally calmness, I remember him: stating on the third specifically on October third, the day after that we learned about whether the present his diagnosis, though the president. had been dealing with symptoms or had been infected seventy two hours. I think he said at that time. which would put it back to what is that the thirty first of September right, so I mean it It doesn't really matter but emulate matter for all the people. He was around right. Very. I'm so, but again, psych conflicting information from authority figures who are supposed to give us the skinny on something when problems arise. Right, that's a big thing: the show willing, when the adults don't give us the or one around it on purpose for one reason or another,

what I do want to talk about here, I don't know if you want. Talk about it later. Oh yeah, Maybe we can talk about we come back. I really want to bring up these anti body clock fails in earlier years the average got well, it's to your point Ben about getting that what's Rev seen referred to as VIP treatment, actually can sometimes not be a good thing. The ice syndrome. You mean above the effort for sure, but I mean is this idea: they're gonna throw the kitchen sink at our high profile person like this possibly throwing caution to the wind with things maybe experimental or they don't know the full impact of interactions with these things- and I have heard that the sale that he's on how to use the first person that's ever been given all of these things at the same time- and some folks are look This is our. He definitely has an advanced case of this or a severe case of this because of the treatment that is receiving, but it could also be that because he is who he is the doctor's orders.

like you know just using us. Ay and pray affecting our that is trying to like do at all, throw it all Adam and see what happens in the hopes that something will take you now. Medicinal spaghetti against the wall, re get you don't, let's dive into that puts a pause for a word from our sponsors and come back and let's go all the way. It was less you what's happening here. This happened of stuff. They don't want, you to know was brought to buy lifelong more than seventy five percent of identity theft. Victim sweat accounts opened in their name, did not find out. They had been victimized from their bank or credit card company, it seems crazy, but the truth is what You can't see can hurt. You dont, be the seventy five percent, who didn't check more places, identity theft could be hiding, get lifelike, identity, theft, protection, lifelong see. Certain threat:

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that rule is something that should never be left in a vacuum. So this gives us this gives us a couple of things to dived down into a first. I think maybe we talk about some of drugs that he was administered and has been given me why he was given those vip. Ginger and by the way is not the doctors for VIP Syndrome is winning important person demands access treatment. because you know they're scared or they they want that experiment. That's. Why as someone who is a billion air with inoperable, cancer can pull street, in clinical trials and a poor person with inoperable. Cancer is often, unfortunately, to their own devices button, but you're right nor I write Matt.

president of the United States, received above and beyond what would be the typical covert nineteen treatment, actually the typical nineteen treatment for someone with mild symptoms as they were described. So I think, maybe maybe we start with the decks and methods own the steroids, great right as regards this. The president is on steroids, which I'd have I'd say on air. But yet here we are talking. I mean I've been on steroids before four things. You Don T, get swore. You know me look, I know no, no, I'm thoroughly, they know very common thing, it's a thing. I give you go and you have like the flu or if you have you, no unroll amatory, also true, but if you have it in flames, a situation where maybe they then the first thing they do? Is they give you steroids and they give you a z pack, you know, which is that highly over prescribed by antibiotic that's a discussion of itself, but the data they tend.

Here that would stare, I like predators, zone or something, but this is different, but still pretty common. If I'm not mistaken, yeah yeah and one shrieking part of this one tricky part of decks amethyst zone is that we ve been seeing a lot of conflicting reports about when someone should be administered this in the case of covert nineteen, we'll see some medical professionals who say we don't really give that two people unless they're already on a ventilator or something that re very frightening stuff blights. What we have to realise is that, right now there are medical facilities that are approaching things in slightly different ways that Ding on any of those places is just maybe some of their protocols differ from one. The decision to another right so

so saying, making a conclusive claim about when a drug is risen, administer can be tricky water with this being said, of course, a lot of people who are who consider themselves. Opponents of the current president were pointed out, their own anecdotal experiences having this steroids in their system, because some of the side effects are our cognitive or can be cognitive. so. There are people who are arguing. You know I Member I had to take not even this year and I had to take sort of steer right at, I was crazy, zero days and anecdotally flirt we actually, that may be true, but it does mean that its true for everyone in every case does not make sense, now they were yet applies with the lot of this we now know everyone's different in every one is affected differently by medication,

and also by the corona virus itself in here is the problem again, we're not medical professionals personally or Euro Doc holiday could, Doc all day does have a bit of a sketchy pass. So maybe, make sure you are you're a duck So maybe your medical doctors well in the past, there died which nothing about it. Ok, let's talk about that off here, but vital of the one of the things you noted about Dexter Method Zone, is that many medical professionals, many many are saying that taxi meth his own, is something that is shown promise for Riddick led ill covered. Nineteen patients may actually harm people who have less severe cases of covert nineteen that that

facts that makes you wonder in order me yeah. Hence the throw everything at the Wall approach she now and see what sticks, but also it could potentially be bad thing. and you never know a guy like Trump could he's got such clout. He could insist, you know even against doctors wishes. Perhaps in the same way that he insisted to be let out to do a motorcade drive by dishonest supporters outside. To read you now, which I'm sure would have been discouraged by if I'd attending physician, but yet he was able to do that you now he's the present United States. They can't tell him what to do. I mean that's just how it is and you know we talked about the fact that this was in a hermetically sealed presidential or Kate Suv now, with the president wearing a cloth mask and waving to these supporters and to secrecy, decisions wearing those them. The more protective and ninety five masks

but even have seems a little sketchy for a follow up to put those secret service agents lives at risk. the day I debts that struck me a little. A little odd guys. I want to Taiwan regenerate they'll good cocktails nobody's than when the heck that has like invigorating from always help does its homework, but it's real regenerate. It's it's! Ok, I still arrogant. So it's in it's a body I love they keep calling it a cocktail. It's it's a combination of things. Essentially that goes and to you the way, I'm assuming actually never saw it on here whether or not it's a syringe or not. It just says eight, Graham, MRS Eight Green, dose of regenerative experimental, any binding cocktail.

And likely to the armpits but yeah. It's it's an interest. thing I was on their website a little bit trying to go through some of the PR statements in my Goodness farm pharmaceutical. Pr is not something you wanna, get lost in, but you you're in clinical trials as of October no September, twenty ninth, they were going through clinic trials and running tests on people. They were cut, nineteen patients who were not hospitalized. That's specifically what these clinical trials were protesting and again it seems to be that the purpose of it in summit- correct me. If I'm wrong appears to be to help people whose bodies immune systems are not readily fighting back against the infection and the virus. This cocktail us

the human bodies immune system to essentially recognize what they need to fight in to invigorate them to fight the viral infection itself, which is interesting. Considering that the purpose of decks and methods zone is actually to somewhat suppress the immune system, to keep it from releasing these substances that can trigger inflammation, So it's a little confusing why those things would be administered at the same time, but again, no, not medical professionals. Here it sits so little odd and on not have seen other doctors not connected directly to the treatment saying as much here there's a dangerous thing. There happens when people have multiple drugs administered. I you start treating at times side effects. Of drug you took earlier. You know what I mean, so you have one condition:

in England are taken for treatments for it, because Maybe one is just a treat the nausea from another treatment right or what, is to bring your blood pressure back. Normal level because of what happens to your blog, sure do to another treatment. So eighty, those kind of interacting effects can be incredibly dangerous if you're not closely monitored one thing, I think that standing out for people in this story, regardless of how you feel about the lethal he. Of course, nineteen were the degree to which people should be concerned about it. You'll noticed one thing: Nobody can walk into a storm by regenerate their tests. Were the the orgy Dash Cove to antibody cocktail there we're talking about has admit it was in a trial with thoughts.

Cinder less people meeting these specific criteria. So if you're, not one of those people, you're not supposed to be able to get it. However, in answer to the question, how did the protest president of the United States end up having this drug the answers this regeneration and from there this from their side to to regeneron pharmaceuticals as two ways of distributing this drug right now? The first is the clinical trial avenue, and the second is what is called compassionate you yeah, psych, imaginings route must mean that I am so boy, I've loved you. I knew ass covert and you're getting dire, we ve tried other things they have not worked there. Somewhere. We understand this drug and the key he'll trials

We want to ask you in national appeal to provide this outside of a clinical trial to our patient? To our lot and that is the avenue that was used for the President of the United States, at least so far as we know now, and just a quick quick note, there are two companies involved in making this a cocktail, regenerate pharmaceuticals and also a company called gaily ad. Pharmaceuticals and there's another version of the drug believe that Juliet is making let's call rim desert here. Then you, we heard bandied about a little bit. I thought it was the same thing, but maybe listeners correct me from maybe maybe they may be a misunderstanding. I was getting a bit confusing with wood, various reporting that's coming out in how rapidly it came out for hate me It is a burning up and I was just Bobo, mumbo, jumbo mosaic huge shock to the system. Now the diagnosed, so what were learning as we go and we

learning along with make no mistake. Many many other people. The world is watching right now, because a vacuum in the? U S, power, system, no matter how brief is an enormous opportunity. enemies of sounds, pretentious desire, but it's true memories forward in domestic- it is so true are one thing I do want to know another another story about these two companies, regeneration and jelly. I don't know Those was on purpose four fans and they have made stale blights there. We are that President Trump report Lee own some stock on some stake in both of those companies how much I mention, because they had a ten percent jump At least regeneration did recently due to evolved and in this case, and

additionally, I can't help but think it helped that compassionate use request get to the very top The list is, I'm sure, there's been a lot of people who were while I assume there have been a lot of you or turn down here well, we know the way a lot of these contract vetting situations work. There is a story on Job Verona last week tonight recently about the company that went. they got the contract for building the wall, between Mexico, United States, and it was apparently someone who had kind of appealed to trumps love a Fox news By repeatedly appearing on Fox NEWS, about how his company would be a great fit for this job and then ultimately, Trump when with this individual, because there is some personal ability to choose the these contracts is not to say this. It is obviously a private company- that's doing this, and this is for the commercial pharmaceutical market by

the question I have for you guys I mean. Is this a government contract with these two companies or are they just disappear? Lee Commercial and them just being the ones that are furthest along in the research and kind of getting first to market with something is obviously going to be hugely lucrative so at least one of the companies does have a government contract regeneration got a four hundred and fifty million dollar federal contract back in July to men, sure that anti body cocktail hour e g in Cove, two young enough to call investor relations yeah on Theoretically, it can get a little sticky. There can be a lot of preferential treatment based on campaign, donations, etc. Insider trading blocs, here one would hope that the

primary deciding factor for a contract would be the likelihood of creating a scalable, effective treatment that that's again that's what one would hope would happen. Some analysed in a place called S he ll gearing pointed out something that I had not thought of earlier respected these drugs. They said both company regeneration and the White House. His medical staff are likely much to have access to much information about this treatment are g and dash. Cove too, there has been publicly disclosed, so it's not necessarily stuff. They don't want you to know yet, but it stop that the average person doesn't know, which probably you know, definitely, I would say tilted there their decision, because you once again you want a

cognizant healthy president, especially if you're looking at a possible transfer of power which has happened. so soon, which makes this so irregular. So they're gonna be updates on the drug, so now they were administered whether they end up at the public, what their ultimate f is, he was or was not now knew. We come out before this episode publishes. We just want to give you a background of some of happening now and what has recently abbot. Why Are we harping on the parts about how import it is to have someone healthy and alive. in the role of commander in chief of the United States. Well, it's not naive that for final Sad on this issue too. Very, very

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little bit about the twenty fifth amendment. The twenty fifth amendment is very important. It's a thing that you may have heard sort of clearing around the headlines. Pre coveys flee. Beyond the headlines. Just every so often I eat easy pretty young amendment in turn, of euro in relation to the other amendments, it deals with the problem of presidential succession in the case of disability. So it clarifies that the vice president becomes president. If the serving president does some of the following things they I the is I removed from office, and we we ve seen this invoked before when Nixon resigned right now I was involved. I then the appointment of Nelson Rockefeller fell under the twenty fifth amendment.

Ronald Reagan underwent a colonoscopy in one eighty five and they had already invoked section three of the twenty fifth amendment. So, what's happened before in order, I mean it's not like a crazy space age into the world constitutional crisis. But it's a danger. It's a dangerous game, Neil because imagine, You are the president of the. U S you have an operation and you go for that operation soon administers anesthesia. and what, if, during that period, too few hours when you're out a nuclear exchange, a curse happens. Uranium is out yet exactly Fraser residence under Heaven did you it's really fast? These? Just you mentioned section. Three It just is fascinating that when that occur,

as the president has to submit essentially something in written, declaration that this is happening in declaring that the vice president is now in power. Until I write to you again and say that no I'm back are there, like, you, think, they're like temporary new codes or something they get shared letter? No, I'm Wonderingly, who has all proprietary information, is the VP have all the same info. The president, all the same access ceiling if it be temporarily handed over to him in some way it's interesting. I dont know the football changes hands for a couple hours: nuclear member, the way. The way I believe it's laid out requires multiple parties and the government to interact at least even if the call is, even if the call in the press and you still have to have multiple people in the chain actually deploying weapon. I don't, I think we can

all agree, no one should try ever trust any single jewel with a suitcase such fifth ache adjust whatever they want said. That's really. I hope it's situations like in the movies where everyone has to turn a key, the same exact time now and enter the codes, and I mean that's: that's how I'm picturing ITALY's in cracking cobalt like snap and in detail to all familiar. Bravo: tequila because our era with a code of in Europe still will that's a patriot so another example. Just Show you how free this is or we're thing to me so rare you gotta go and ask me right. That's the twenty fifth amendment call it ask of Eve turns It is like a driving force for the twenty fifth amendment. Jude. Me night, two thousand to George W Bush

invoked section three, transferring power to Dick Cheney Ferko and ask if temporarily right, imperially we're not ass the rest of the time. The twenty through the Golan knows about temporary. He got He transfer power again in two thousand seven June. Twenty first Deering wait for it a second colonoscopy. the man likes is go and ask if these nor armies speed safe guys, I'm gonna, take precautions teasing any like this continued a government so the the question that has come up a lot recently as you know, the president is in the hospital We should we prepare for for continuation of government and for some people It is completely understandable that that would be seen as a ya at all.

miss move right for supporters of the president, of course, that conjures the spectre of a possible coup or something rat by just to be clear. The way that the twenty fifth men works. It doesn't really skip steps. It go now vice president, so even if there were for some reason situation wherein he current in the. U S was rendered unable to do their duties, that's a big term and a lot of conditions fit inside their term. I, if they were temporarily, permanently unable to thee powers devolved to the vice hundred the twenty fifth amendment, but has to be. invoked by the president himself or themselves either a couple of ways for it to happen section three as specifically presidential declaration. So that's when the press it knows something coming up: I've gotta get surgery, etc, but If you now, he asked them accepts assessment. If there is a situation where he was in a car accident and may be ended up in a coma, there would have

to be a way to invoke that officially through other channels. If you hear able to do with for censure for talks about how the VP in Congress can work together to essentially say the president cannot uphold office at this particular juncture, guys guys, I'm getting I'll have such a clear. Image of Dick Cheney going into the oval office. One day in saying, George, Did you get a call and ask it beyond the twenty fifth pollyanna he's like what what what why I'm in June basic trust me Can I have a little bit of an under by will be job guy do whatever they are changing. I know what you did appear to your right. There are four sections centrally first one is.

President has died, president resides automatically vice president you're in Uganda, tapped I end in Second- would be a vice presidential vacancy So whenever there is a vacancy for any reason in the role of the vice president, then the president says I want this listen to be my vice president, my new VP and their hats. A majority vote both houses of Congress for that to go through. The third is the president saying, I am unable to you the powers and duties in my office, maybe even temporarily so vice president's gonna step in for me, and then worth is just what you described: Matt VP and what are called principle officers step in the unless the commercial. What yeah within here there is a real. I can't remove they covered any of this stuff on house of cards. I think they

some of it at least but the concept that, if the vice president can no longer be the vice president, then somebody can swoop in it doesn't require any kind of election at all. Just needs the house, the any congress to say. Yes, that's you the american people, don't get a vote on that one which is well. I guess the argument people would say is that they do get a because they're congressional represent it is represent them, which is true in their strewn here. But a lot of things aren't you in theory? Ok, so this situation will touch on so much. So that sounds conspiratorial, but we have yet to talk about the actual conspiracy theories. The actual conspiratorial thought. How crazy is it that, when that announcement came out in the We hours of early October from the president's on Twitter

How, let's leave low whether or not he actually wrote that, when a lot of politicians have a team writing their tweets when they came, how crazy is that so many people thought it was a hoax yeah crazy, but also not super crazy and there's a there's, a really great article that just came out today on the New York Times. The headline is Trump's covid. Nineteen me to landscape primed for mistrust and rings true and in so many ways, because the whole idea, fake news. The whole idea of little way the highs and then bigger lies in perhaps how true for the press This administration has been about certain things and the idea of kind of subverting reality and then a lot of ways know what we know to be objectively. True, things is very much a product of we we're going through right now with social media. With the idea of these conspiracy Areas like you and on with the way so many of these things

really been leaned in been and so divisive between the left and the right and moderates and extremists on both sides of of this administration, new, politically the little kind of blurb, the Bacchus Abstract for this article as a president who rose to fame and business and on tv and politics on an archipelago of eggs, duration, find themselves facing a public skeptical of his account of his own health and in sort of sums it up where, at the end of the day, it's easy, whether you support Trump or against Trump. As to where you fall on this, you now and there's a bevy of you now trees. There already coming out and just a very short amount of time on both sides of this, and there is I will go with the most extreme left deep type dude. You could ever imagined, Michael more, who very quickly floated this yeah on his facebook page that trumps corona virus diagnosis was a fake in or

to help him rally. Folks are TIM Debate, dodge the debates, perhaps illicit. Some sympathy in some respects, whether or not that is even an effective tactic, even if that was the case in the upper debate, my why. Why would he dodged the debate? I can feel this when I get there. because one of the primary criticisms of the debates, from multiple observers. Eyes is that they did not adhere to the rules of the debate the two under uninterrupted minutes? They may not a big deal about. I saw The idea in this largely comes from supporters of the President's a poet than the other

an election former Vp Joe Biden, the idea there was that the trump can paying looted like tat of like floated. The first debate see our people react when people reacted adversely to them. that is performing its, they were able to take out their back pocket insurance policy, which was covert. I'm not saying this makes sense to me. because, given the past behaviour of the administration in relation to this infection, it seems really shooting oneself in the foot unless they calculus is to create some sort of similar situations, to that. A Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister of the UK, who encounter groundswell of support from some sectors when he survived over ninety right there have been- and I have certainly seen that perspective brought up the Boers Johnson comparison with that. I have also seen that you now his his approval.

things quickly, tanks and he is very unpopular, Boris Johnson in the UK. Currently and and if this was a thing- and this was a you know- he did get that groundswell. It was only in some sectors and not like overwhelmingly everyone, all all of a sudden felt sympathy for this man so that would be a very risky move and I tend to not think this is a thing I think again all the other confirmations of people contracting aunt in proximity to the present. It absolutely rings true that this is absolute a true diagnosis. The question is the severity the subterfuge surrounding his treatment? There is even a photo up, it was organized of him. Signing supposedly a document or a piece of legislation are something that was staged there there behind the scenes photos showing that it was a blight piece of paper. Of him in the presidential suite of Walter II, which is a thing, and it's made too very much. Look like the oval office, their flags behind him and he's sitting at a desk with no tie on

and then his daughter vodka tweeted out that eighty keys unstoppable. Always invincible. Nothing will stop him from working for the american people and this image of him signing this paper, but then there's a close up, showing that there is nothing on the paper, but him sign a year sharply. Does that behind the scenes just jewelry here the photo Eurasia home. Here you are there to photos, Yahoo NEWS, I believe dog to the metadata of those photos. and it seems they were taken. Ten minutes apart to win they were say that they were a Walter Reed, though I don't think they were trying to mislead people by saying it was at the white. Absolutely not anything is interesting. How it looks like the idea of a presidential suite at Walter. Reed, obviously make says it's it's an interest. Got that one that I've never really thought about, but yeah. It very much looks like a very fancy type of office situation. You know what's up with a big in a fancy presidential desk

so that's one. That's absolutely confirmed that the Medeia thing he said is absolutely true with theirs article on the BBC, that can it goes through end and confirms someone in into bunks many of these theories. Surrounded what might or might not be happening with with the present or I'll tell you one that I saw known. Let me know if you anything about this? The concept I mentioned earlier the concept that the president was purposefully infected by someone from the opposition, and it was a very poor four thing, it was done during the press, the first presidential debate of twenty twenty that happened in September now more than other go see. Now in that war, that was that was, I mean it seems to be a basis rumor At this point we have seen no evidence. we are in any way can concerning this, but it was

weeded out by a lot of people to hundreds of thousands of other people who then treated it out again, it was just. It was very vague. Just saying you know, this was done purposefully to infect the president before the next and to hurt his election possibilities valid you get past how'd, you get passes people Every single president in the modern age sees me where's, your? U S, president in the modern age, has had some try to get to them. for one reason or another: it is very difficult? Well, I hear you, However, in this scenario, all you need somebody who is definitely infected It's going to be at one of these places where a ppp precautions are not being taken and is was all of them, so

It is why get one person in that you know is gonna, have close contact with the president. The first, or you know his assistant an aid somebody who's gonna be preparing for the debates with them. Is just in an surely you know, if he's fundraiser events to these high level. Folks, I mean I can't imagine their requiring everyone to present a negative covered test before gaining admittance. To this thing I mean meant- maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt that, especially considering the attitude the administration has had towards a lot of the stuff in the fact that doing these indoor events or indoor outdoor abandonment, most of them have been outdoor events. There have been a few of these that are in as an indoor portion, and that was alone with a select group of high, old donors. That spent a lot of money to to be to be at this thing, and now I realize I am saying this in the Sub BBC list the idea of the intentional infection, but it doesn't go into that specifically as much as it does the idea that his public appear

There have been a body double, which is something I always hear about when it comes to, like you know, Kim Jong on, for example, potentially dead or hill and the now being misleading, public into thinking. That is fine by having a body double some sort. That study I do it before we move on to that. When I want to go back, though, because I delighted through tore open, these delighted by the idea so and purposefully spreading covert. It's kind of ridiculous because covert as a very as a lower, fatality written rain. I mean he is in the coal rapidity demographic deftly as a higher chance of dying. Then A lot of the people listen to the show today by it doesn't seem very effective. This is a pr war. I dont understand the advocacy, but your point about the body double Do they have any lay proposed evidence

it. Just like literally a BBC thing where they're saying some people have said it's just needs out from accounts of democratic supporters, with lots of be no ray, weeds thousands, arrange, weeds and, of course, we know, body double conspiracies are super comment or even levelled at Hillary Clinton when she was Mcgrath ignominy when she was, she fell ill. You now for that brief period of time, I believe, had either cancer debate or be there's all thing and and and Donald Trump, but really jumped, Then you can kind of openly mocked her for being sick, insert of main one of her coughing in saying I can't breathe and all the stuff which had not aid, particularly well winds. Being used now, we are given the circumstances sure this I mean it's it's true. We have to be careful why words have power, and that's it that's why so much of our legal system is.

centred on the idea that your words can be used against you later right and Euro aid honestly makes sense that that kind of state would come back to haunt somewhere, There's something else you were saying. You know that I had not heard of until rifle when they are your talking about their sir we're gonna break. Ah, we know The present was administers supplemental oxygen, re Amelia doctors yeah the doctors had eventually confirmed that, after giving some conflicting, really weasel, word accounts Bubu. What's this about what's spot like a secret oxygen tank, this was to me? We're there's gonna there there's footage twelve of the president and boarding Marine one tat to make his way to the house. for his treatment to Walter Reed and you know there's some folks that have posted

measures of this and zooming in on his suit jacket. Pocket ask is large, can be large and assuming in and highlighting that there's something both hang in there the implication is that it was a secret oxygen tank and then also assuming an on his ear behind his mask, and you can kind of see something running up behind him, mass that just the the elastic bands of the mask itself. So hopefully that is secret service, Super awesome connection, then all spies and president's gatorade. What one would one would certainly hope, and then, in this feeds into the idea of of downplaying all of this often in them the BBC article sort of compares it to this idea? Joe Biden was wearing an ear peace that TIM during the debates, and we ve seen that come up before in past debates. But

I not truly think there's much sand to that either, but, but it is something that's being thrown around. You know another: another concept is coming out of. The queue non spacer now is that this is all a trick that present tromp in those close to him are playing on everybody to try and your move forward some of the arrests that are supposed to be happening for de chess here take that's their power. I mean parliament wants it to be true, like so badly wants there to be true that all of this is one big real you and I think, like gives all real and it's all been a stage play, but the majority of me knows the desk. sadly the guardian, as as they go to work on that that no yeah yeah the idea that I may quote,

non followers on this there, their idea least, as reported in the guardian, is that covered. Nineteen itself is a hoax that was bent deflected. Pension from a Satan worshipping chow views a ring, harbour goodbye Hillary Clinton and various elites, and a trump is actually pretending to have covered even though the hawks hoax, so I a whiteboard I use be pretending after we, even though its a hoax, because it's a step in some obtuse plan to ultimately arrest. Clinton is like the main person. They point out that there are numerous others, I'm sure Barack Obama mentioned or other like historical, historically important dammit,

I too would be seen as opponents of the current republican administration, makes you wonder, though, Jimmy Carter doesn't give mentioned in a lot of those. Does he and then this by the way I just was looking a little further and of a secret oxygen tank thing and in snowplow came right up showing that distills that indicate this bulge end like a screen grabber a photograph of the television news broadcasts showing Why are running up the sir? The present his ear were doctored and that this is absolute bunk? So just put thereby helping them imagination runs. Wild and people have all kinds of agendas. To your point, ban of How do you spend this in a way that is beneficial to a cause? One OZ or another or enemies. You now they're looking for a foothold guy's gonna bring one last thing up, and I know we neither the rapporteur gone long. Apologies, everyone, but also your welcome twitter.

I was about what happened on Twitter win, President announced that he and Bologna had grown a virus, So many people were ITALY and heavily wishing to I'll, say it death up the sitting. President and then Twitter came word and said: hey guys, you can't do that. Don't put death, wishes or don't put death threats of this kind of inappropriate stuff on twitter and then the backlash they came back from twitter users across the planet who have experience of their own. death threats, light or otherwise. And how nothing was done. Even though those were reported, there is a fascinating ashore If that had been happening on Friday and over the weekend that still being fought, on one of the largest social, the networks that exists, but just that concept of

I don't know wishing death on a sitting, president is thing that is not allowed, or at least threatening. You know, and you threaten I think, wishing death and threatening or two very different things, sure right yeah, it's weird, because it's it's something we run into the or in past. There was one. Language problem with Farsi. and English about death to insert here. Crazy, because if you talk to someone who speaks Farsi, it's like you saying death. To is a lot like saying down about you Well, don't even that it's like saying it's like the way we say this in English is like saying traffic. It's not later ice us in English. Death two means, I hope, someone hence the slowly. In your life blood.

In other languages, at least in in Farsi. It it's warlike screw this. I think it's bad, which does it make. You know I think it's you would be nice to say people who sweet Farsi are not well aware of white of how much fear of an impact has an English, but the idea of death to in twitter is all very close to something that this happened. Strange, was already pushing for which is in social media platforms liable for the statements round, their users right Just remember that our future and that's it, that's a big deal, and I do, and if we are to that, I do think it's a little bit interesting that a lot of trump supporters. I really value trumps, ability they kind trashed ha Liberals and in his detractors very effectively in kind of real people up and get into people skin, by saying some pretty inflammatory thing:

and levelling insults and giving people these you no kind of offensive nicknames, but now the and when the tables are turned and people are you now, maybe pointing out the somewhat ironic nature of Trump coming down. With this condition that he's been so adamant about not being that big a deal, it seems some of accuracy. There too, were folks are saying you know these people are horrible people for speaking ill of the president's. You know he's a sick man when Trump has openly criticised folks were wearing masks and having certain conditions, and things like that. Yeah. That's an excellent point, let's also you don't, let's not forget that we are talking about one very important person. Whoever is president of the United States at any given time very important person and by nature of

our position. They are also very dangerous person. That's not a value judgment about them as individuals to value judgement about that position, one thing that I think is missing from the conversation is the over two hundred thousand confirmed covert nineteen deaths here in the United States. It shouldn't take one person, the mare, how important getting covert nineteen for us to care about hundreds of them. thousands of other people who are never going to be able to speak about their ultimate first hand. Experience recovered nineteen ever again. Unless somebody really does pierce the mortal veil. Unless a week or really does work. Those people are dead, and you know, of course, of course, they're conspiratorial things about this. I mean I I don't know why I keep thinking over and over lake. I dont think it could be a hoax. There are too many people.

there's. You know what I mean they're too many doctors. There are many people who are involved at this point by no the degree of tat infection and I dont think I don't think a lot of us. Do. I don't think that's gonna come out yet for a while. You know, maybe three weeks from now, maybe four weeks me after the election, I dont know we're just as such a sensitive time is the nation right now. feels, just like I mean it would have leaked knew now they had to get ahead of it. They had to own the narrative and that's what they did, and I think you know to your point about the other people, the two hundred thousand plus people who can never speak about their experience again. they ve already the administrations kind of spun it there's a tweet that you sent us been where another surrogate from the top

administration pointed out how now Trump has first hand experience in this struggle. The Joe Biden could never have, and it's almost the implication that they're they're spinning it has like. This is a good thing. That's gonna help him, fight this disease better. In the I don't know, what I am every if we all get we all had access to experimental enter, viral cocktail Stan yeah. Maybe we would be are better off, I mean. Would we there are still experimental after many tat. In I mean that say like that's all, that's inherit Eurasia morning viewpoint, but it gives you a gives you time to think These are. These are very, very important and crucial issues because we are not Tom being about to be very, very clear. We're not tie

he really about at individual, whatever their perceived v, Jews or vices. Maybe we're talking about someone who is the public face of a superpower, we're talking about the role in the position of the President of the United States, and with that in mind, I wish we could fast forward. As a group to October 12th and then back and then tell ourselves what's going to happen because Think about it this morning. How many years long is this week going to be You know what I mean approximately two point four but as we travel at this Spirit of freight have we heartily and without we to hear from you? What do you think is the true story Here is what we are being told by the PR folks by the

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